The Charlie Kirk Show - Daniel Penny Acquitted!

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00:01:12.000 Hello, everybody.

00:01:13.000 This is producer Blake here.

00:01:15.000 You probably weren't expecting me.

00:01:16.000 I wasn't expecting me.

00:01:17.000 We have some big breaking news that just hit, if you haven't heard it yet.

00:01:22.000 Marine Corps veteran, national hero, Daniel Penny is a free man.

00:01:28.000 We had some sweating last Friday when we learned that the jury was deadlocked on the higher level charge, manslaughter.

00:01:36.000 The state of New York dismissed that charge to try to trick the jury into some sort of compromise guilty verdict on a lower charge of negligent homicide.

00:01:46.000 And it failed.

00:01:48.000 They came in today, and after just a short time deliberating, we heard they have a unanimous verdict.

00:01:54.000 Myself and a lot of my friends thought, oh no, are they going to convict him?

00:01:57.000 And the answer is no.

00:01:59.000 They just delivered a unanimous, not guilty verdict for Daniel Penny.

00:02:05.000 The state of New York's effort to ruin his life, to put him in jail for years, if not more than a decade, has failed.

00:02:14.000 We can all celebrate today.

00:02:15.000 I think we can agree this is the biggest courtroom win for an ordinary American since Kyle Rittenhouse a few years ago.

00:02:24.000 And we're doing our best to get a reporter who was inside the courtroom when this came down.

00:02:30.000 Until then, do we have Jack?

00:02:32.000 Jack, welcome.

00:02:34.000 Welcome, Jack.

00:02:35.000 We have Jack Posobiec joining us.

00:02:37.000 Can you hear us?

00:02:38.000 I've got you, Blake.

00:02:39.000 What's going on?

00:02:40.000 Excellent.

00:02:40.000 Jack, this is a great day.

00:02:42.000 This is huge.

00:02:42.000 This is a huge moment for America, and I want people to be very clear that this is just four years after the George Floyd racial reckoning moment, which, Blake, I know you and Charlie have discussed so many times, that this comes at a time where Just a couple of years ago,

00:03:00.000 a case like this with the racially charged overtones where people were saying, oh, this is a white man and a black man, where in many instances in New York, particularly under D.A. Alvin Bragg, who is a Soros-backed D.A., the same guy who went after Donald Trump in the same jurisdiction where they're going after Steve Bannon this February, was putting all this together and so many people looked at the video and said it's a clear case of self-defense.

00:03:28.000 It's an obvious case of self-defense.

00:03:30.000 There was even a case last year where a guy stabbed someone to death on the subway and those charges were dismissed because that was again self-defense regarding a homeless person that was acting crazy on the subway.

00:03:45.000 white.

00:03:46.000 The only difference was in that case, the individual was black.

00:03:49.000 In this case, the individual was white.

00:03:52.000 And so he had the book thrown at him.

00:03:53.000 No, Daniel Penny, we have to understand this is a moment for the country.

00:03:59.000 This is a moment for the, I don't want to say the movement.

00:04:03.000 This is just the mood of the country, the moment for society, a moment where people can say, you know what, we do want to live in a country that has rules, that has standards.

00:04:12.000 Obviously, it was a terrible situation.

00:04:15.000 It was a situation that nobody wanted to be in, a situation that nobody wanted anyone in.

00:04:20.000 But instead, we have a situation now where people can get up and say, you know what, we're sick and tired of the crime and...

00:04:28.000 So I had heard last week from, you know, take with a grain of salt, but I had heard that there was some rumor going around the DA's office there in Manhattan that the jury, yes, while they were deadlocked, the deadlock was actually towards a We're good to

00:04:58.000 charge.

00:04:59.000 They call it something a little bit differently in New York.

00:05:02.000 But Blake, here's my question.

00:05:03.000 Because that first, and this is more of a legal question, because that first charge was dismissed and not ruled on, could that charge still be brought?

00:05:11.000 I don't necessarily think that they're going to, but is that a possibility?

00:05:14.000 My understanding is no, that because they went through the whole trial, at that point in legal parlance, Jeopardy had attached.

00:05:24.000 And so it would be double Jeopardy to try to bring Yeah.

00:05:31.000 Oh, you know, the trial's not going well.

00:05:33.000 The jury doesn't look good.

00:05:34.000 Dismiss it and refile it.

00:05:36.000 So that would be abusive.

00:05:37.000 So I think Penny is golden on the New York legal front.

00:05:41.000 The vulnerabilities would be a federal charge against him, which I think very safe to say that won't be happening with President Trump in charge.

00:05:49.000 If anyone tried to bring that, I think we would get them turfed out pretty quickly.

00:05:54.000 The other possibility would be a civil case against him.

00:05:58.000 That's still sadly a possibility.

00:06:00.000 Neely's family could sue.

00:06:01.000 I think he is.

00:06:02.000 I think they have to.

00:06:04.000 Now that you say that, he probably already is.

00:06:06.000 I can double check, but I do believe that they've filed a wrongful death lawsuit against Penny in the case.

00:06:13.000 So walk us through.

00:06:14.000 And by the way, that would be something, and I haven't talked to anyone about this, but I do know that there's that give, send, go.

00:06:20.000 And we, I guess, what, a year and a half ago when this happened, I think it was May of 23.

00:06:25.000 Please make sure that you're still giving to the give, send, go for Daniel Penny.

00:06:30.000 I'll go find it and post it on my Twitter accounts up on X and across my social medias.

00:06:36.000 And while this is a great day and we're going to talk about this and there's a lot that's going into this, there's been a lot that, you know, it certainly goes with the current mood of the country right now where I think people are sick of wokeness.

00:06:48.000 They're sick of social justice. 0.99

00:06:49.000 They want to get away from this stuff.

00:06:51.000 And more importantly, they want to get away from crime.

00:06:53.000 We want to live in a place where – and Stephen Miller was at the Turning Point event, this incredible Turning Point event in Mar-a-Lago last weekend, last Saturday night.

00:07:01.000 I know Charlie was in rare form that night and it was an incredible celebration.

00:07:06.000 Stephen Miller got up and spoke and he said, every single American, regardless of your background, has the right to live in safe cities and safe neighborhoods.

00:07:16.000 You should be able to ride a train in this country in one of America's greatest cities, New York City, without having to worry about you, your family, and your children being accosted.

00:07:26.000 And unfortunately, in this situation, someone did accost them, but you had a hero named Daniel Penny who didn't do anything wrong.

00:07:35.000 In fact, he did everything right.

00:07:37.000 But I do want to also point out that because of this lawsuit that's still going on, Please go and check out the Give, Send, Go for Daniel Penny because it does look like he's still facing some legal repercussions on that front.

00:07:49.000 Yes, absolutely.

00:07:50.000 We'll be watching that.

00:07:52.000 We obviously care that Daniel Penny get his life on track as much as possible, and that goes beyond just beating these unjust charges.

00:08:01.000 But as we like to say, today is a day for celebrating.

00:08:05.000 This is a victory for ordinary Americans.

00:08:08.000 This is a victory for I'm sure we also, you know, maybe we haven't seen the last of Daniel Penny in our movement.

00:08:32.000 We'll see.

00:08:32.000 I imagine a lot of people will be getting to work on that front.

00:08:37.000 As you said, another big win here.

00:08:39.000 We already see it on X. People are saying, this is the day BLM dies.

00:08:44.000 The movement that sort of terrorized America that said, if you don't listen to us, we will burn your stores, we will burn your city, we will make your cities unlivable.

00:08:57.000 They demanded that Penny go to prison. 1.00

00:09:01.000 Just this morning, they were protesting so loudly that on the 13th floor of the courthouse where the jury was deliberating, their chants demanding that Penny go to prison could be heard.

00:09:12.000 There were arguments that that would be grounds for a mistrial all on its own.

00:09:16.000 But if the jury was able to hear those protests, they ignored them, they didn't care, and BLM's ability to just terrorize the country Is broken, I think.

00:09:27.000 People understand this is a con job.

00:09:29.000 This is a scam.

00:09:30.000 This is bad people who want bad things to happen to America.

00:09:35.000 And Blake, I do have a report from this guy, Matthew Russell Lee.

00:09:38.000 He covers a lot of these cases.

00:09:39.000 He goes into the courtrooms and live tweets them, and he's not one side or the other.

00:09:45.000 He's very straight down the middle.

00:09:46.000 And he tweeted that when the not guilty charge came out, that from the Penny side, there was applause, there was cheering, the judge asked him to be quiet.

00:09:56.000 And I'm just going to read what it says.

00:09:58.000 From the Neely side, someone said, gonna be killed.

00:10:03.000 The judge instructed that person to be taken out.

00:10:06.000 Then either someone else from the Neely side or the same person responded, it's a small world, buddy.

00:10:13.000 It's a racist country.

00:10:15.000 It sounds like there were people who were even threatening Penny inside the courtroom as the verdict was down.

00:10:23.000 So these people are still there.

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00:11:30.000 Other breaking news.

00:11:32.000 It's just coming out now.

00:11:33.000 They may have arrested the CEO shooter from New York.

00:11:37.000 There's apparently a person much like him who also had a suppressed pistol that they just arrested in Altoona, Pennsylvania.

00:11:43.000 So we may be getting a lot more information on that front.

00:11:46.000 There is a lot going on today.

00:11:50.000 But right now, we want to be joined.

00:11:52.000 We have a reporter who was covering all the events of this trial.

00:11:56.000 A lot of his coverage went viral.

00:11:58.000 He was giving us a lot of information.

00:12:00.000 Do we have Joe?

00:12:01.000 Hi, yeah.

00:12:02.000 Can you hear me okay?

00:12:03.000 There we are.

00:12:04.000 All right.

00:12:04.000 Welcome, Joe.

00:12:05.000 Thank you for coming on.

00:12:06.000 So this is Independent Reporter Joe Brucker.

00:12:09.000 So you were covering the entire trial.

00:12:11.000 So let's get right to the most important thing.

00:12:14.000 What was the moment like when the verdict came in?

00:12:16.000 How did people react?

00:12:18.000 Absolutely, yes.

00:12:19.000 Very high emotions.

00:12:23.000 Major wave of commotion.

00:12:25.000 At this point, a couple of the major protesters who had been sitting in on the trial actually were already outside.

00:12:36.000 This came from Jordan Neely's father, who was suing, actually, in a civil suit.

00:12:42.000 He was actually asked to leave the courtroom after this.

00:12:45.000 There have been so many outbursts and so many How about, could you see Penny himself?

00:13:00.000 Did he show any emotion?

00:13:02.000 Obviously, it was very viral when Rittenhouse started sobbing after the verdict, but we couldn't see in New York's case.

00:13:09.000 Right.

00:13:09.000 They actually rushed out of the courthouse fairly quickly.

00:13:12.000 I was not able to get a view of that particular instance.

00:13:17.000 And they did not give any sort of press after the verdict either.

00:13:22.000 One thing to keep in mind is that there is still a civil suit looming.

00:13:25.000 And if you remember the Bernard Goetz case, there was a major civil suit afterwards, tens of millions in liability.

00:13:34.000 So they may have been trying to contain any sort of information that could be used.

00:13:38.000 Of course.

00:13:39.000 They indicate feelings of guilt.

00:13:41.000 And you were also reporting on the chants, the threatening protests outside of the courthouse.

00:13:47.000 Could you really hear those?

00:13:49.000 Do you think the jury could hear it, 13 stories up?

00:13:51.000 Absolutely.

00:13:52.000 So we were 13 stories up, and those protests were All the way on the first floor.

00:13:58.000 You can hear it on the other side of the same 13th floor.

00:14:03.000 The jury is deliberating.

00:14:04.000 There was speculation but not confirmation that we could get that the jury was hearing this as well and that this was either intimidating or influencing the jury.

00:14:16.000 Part of the issue, too, was that there wasn't really anywhere else for them to move them that would have been any better.

00:14:22.000 The judge offered to ask the jury, hey, if you have any notes for us that you're able to hear this, we'll try to move you, but communicated to both parties that even if that were the case, it's not that we'd be able to move them anywhere that would be quieter.

00:14:40.000 So my colleague Jack is saying, from one of his, someone was saying there were threats from the Neely side inside the courtroom.

00:14:49.000 Did you observe that?

00:14:50.000 Yeah, so Hock Newsome did actually say it's a small world, and some of the reporters heard it's a small world whitey.

00:15:02.000 Some of the reporters heard it's a small world buddy.

00:15:06.000 So we're a little bit of back and forth on that.

00:15:10.000 But yes, that could have been interpreted as a threat, and that was actually audibly, that was as Hawk Newsom, the founder of Black Lives Matter in Greater New York, was leaving.

00:15:21.000 Then, outside of the courtroom, during the press conference of the various activists that were involved, Hawk Newsom did call for black vigilantes, specifically.

00:15:31.000 Oh my gosh, that's crazy.

00:15:34.000 Were you speaking with other reporters?

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00:15:44.000 Was there a sentiment on how the jury was likely to go?

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00:15:49.000 Sure, sure.

00:15:50.000 I think that many in the courtroom were expecting that we would get another hung jury.

00:15:54.000 The difference between, they indicated that they were still debating self-defense, which applies to both negligence and manslaughter, when they arrived there at being a hung jury.

00:16:07.000 So many were expecting that that debate would either carry over or this would indicate that they had ruled that this didn't matter, They would have much more to either deliberate on or rule guilty.

00:16:24.000 So yes, there was surprise that it was this verdict this quickly after the hung jury.

00:16:30.000 Also, the period of time.

00:16:33.000 I mean, we had four days of deliberation before we had the hung jury, and then almost like 30 minutes before a verdict.

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00:17:45.000 Daniel Penny has been acquitted.

00:17:48.000 It's great news for...

00:17:50.000 Pretty much all Americans, other than, I guess, people who want to terrorize innocent people on the subway.

00:17:57.000 I want to play a clip that we have.

00:18:00.000 This is the response of Jordan Neely's father to the news today.

00:18:04.000 Let's play clip number 20. I just want to say, I miss my son.

00:18:13.000 My son didn't have to go through this.

00:18:15.000 I didn't have to go through this either.

00:18:19.000 It hurts.

00:18:21.000 Really, really hurts.

00:18:25.000 What are we gonna do, people?

00:18:27.000 What's gonna happen to us now?

00:18:33.000 I had enough of this.

00:18:35.000 The system is rigged.

00:18:40.000 Come on, people.

00:18:44.000 Let's do something about this.

00:18:47.000 So it's that last line there that stands out.

00:18:50.000 Let's do something about this.

00:18:53.000 And I couldn't quite make it out, but I think you could hear some protest chants going on in the background as well.

00:18:59.000 Do we still have Joe with us?

00:19:01.000 Welcome back, Joe.

00:19:03.000 Can you hear me okay?

00:19:04.000 Yes, yes.

00:19:05.000 So I'm not sure if you could hear that, but we were just playing the clip of Jordan Neely's father saying, let's do something about this.

00:19:12.000 So I was wondering, you know, we ran out of time there before the break.

00:19:16.000 Could you expand a bit on the overall vibe?

00:19:19.000 Did it feel menacing around the courthouse at all?

00:19:23.000 Like there was a very strong cohort of people really braying for Daniel Penny's blood?

00:19:29.000 It's interesting.

00:19:30.000 That is the first time that I had actually heard Jordan Ely's father's words, even though I was only a few feet from him.

00:19:36.000 His voice was a little quieter, but he was completely drowned out by the protesters who were across the street.

00:19:44.000 I'm sitting in the courthouse now.

00:19:46.000 The tone was extremely low.

00:19:50.000 It was really loud this morning.

00:19:51.000 All of the reporters had noted that this was more intensity than we'd ever seen any other day of trial in terms of hearing these protesters, which we've heard very, very consistently.

00:20:09.000 Later in that clip, later in that same press conference, you'll hear Hawk Newsome, the founder of Black Lives Matter Greater New York, call for vigilantes, black vigilantes, seemingly in response to how he sees Daniel Penny.

00:20:26.000 Earlier, Thomas Kenneth, who is the defense attorney for Daniel Penny, brought up several chants that he interpreted as threats specifically against the jury.

00:20:39.000 Quote, if we don't get no justice, they don't get no peace.

00:20:45.000 ADA-Uran seemed to dismiss the likelihood of that, even going to the extent of saying that she hadn't heard any of some of these slogans at all.

00:20:57.000 But the judge denied the equivocation later and agreed that there aren't two sides to this.

00:21:07.000 So looking back over the course of the trial, you were able to observe the jury.

00:21:12.000 Obviously, there's also a lot of experts there.

00:21:15.000 Do you have a sense maybe what proved decisive in Neely being able to win his freedom?

00:21:24.000 Is there something that really affected people?

00:21:26.000 Yeah, sure.

00:21:27.000 So, I mean, there are two big things, right, that became issues of focus.

00:21:33.000 One, for Daniel Penny, you know, is the question of self-defense, which the last indication that we have is that this is something that the jury was fixated on.

00:21:42.000 And we had testimony, emotional testimony, of a mother who was protecting her child and who had thanked Daniel Penny.

00:21:52.000 There was a woman who had thanked Daniel Penny after the event.

00:21:57.000 There was testimony describing, we had an expert witness going through his psychiatric records and describing just how scary and They really, really tried to emphasize the extent to which the subway passengers did or could have felt threatened.

00:22:24.000 And Daniel Penny, in his interview with the police, says, you know, I look, I see women, I see children, and that was his impetus.

00:22:35.000 The other issue is that the prosecution had to prove the cause of death.

00:22:41.000 What was the chokehold?

00:22:43.000 The defense put up this theory.

00:22:45.000 We don't know, obviously, to what extent the jury felt doubtful towards the prosecution's case.

00:22:55.000 But he did have this sickling event, an extremely rare event.

00:23:01.000 That is just how rare this event is, even though people have a sickle cell trait.

00:23:06.000 Both medical examiners, the prosecutions, and the defenses both agreed that this is an extremely rare event that inhibited the oxygen flow to Jordan Ely's cells.

00:23:22.000 And also, the jury was very focused that the medical examiner gave up looking or said something to the extent of That she didn't need more information after seeing the video.

00:23:39.000 So she had toxicology reports on the way.

00:23:42.000 She had other information on the way and she decided not to move forward with it or didn't need it to decide the cause of death as the chokehold, which obviously many people ran away.

00:23:54.000 Alright, I think we're getting the clip here.

00:23:57.000 Yeah, this is what you were just describing, I think.

00:23:59.000 Let's play Hawk Newsome getting a little menacing after the announcement today.

00:24:06.000 Let's play clip 21. We need some black vigilantes. 1.00

00:24:11.000 That's right.

00:24:12.000 People want to jump up and choke us and kill us for being loud?

00:24:20.000 How about we do the same when they attempt to oppress us?

00:24:24.000 Right.

00:24:25.000 I'm tired.

00:24:26.000 Tired.

00:24:27.000 Yeah, pretty strong words.

00:24:29.000 Wow, that was some volcanic rhetoric.

00:24:34.000 I think, obviously, that'll have a lot of people on edge.

00:24:37.000 I think what we can be hopeful for, though, is...

00:24:41.000 I think what we're all hopeful for is that this won't cause an explosion of violence or looting or anything like that.

00:24:50.000 I think what most of us would prefer is for people to just tell them to go away.

00:24:54.000 Maybe he'll get slapped with some sort of charges over that if it's too inflammatory.

00:25:00.000 A lot of this is...

00:25:01.000 It's just people...

00:25:03.000 It's crazy to think that four years ago, everyone just went in fear of this group of people.

00:25:08.000 They could get almost anyone prosecuted, thrown in jail.

00:25:12.000 They almost could act with impunity.

00:25:14.000 And this time, they didn't get their way.

00:25:17.000 And a heroic man, an innocent man, is going free.

00:25:22.000 And...

00:25:25.000 I'm celebrating.

00:25:26.000 You're a reporter.

00:25:27.000 I don't want to expect you to celebrate off the cuff.

00:25:30.000 But I think this was the right outcome in the case.

00:25:34.000 And I know a lot of people were following this.

00:25:36.000 And it's good to see that people didn't get the tunnel vision of thinking that the protesters who were right outside, who were not going to work that day and were just coming in to protest during the trial, that they were not the mob that would just get its way.

00:25:51.000 Any other thoughts on the case?

00:25:53.000 I mean, you've been following it longer than just about anyone.

00:25:56.000 Yeah, I mean, I guess the biggest thing is that it's not over yet.

00:26:00.000 We have potentially the civil trial, if you recall.

00:26:04.000 Bernie Getz, you know, he was acquitted but then had this major civil trial afterwards in which a judgment was levied against him.

00:26:12.000 Tens of millions of dollars, apparently.

00:26:16.000 His livelihood is still affected by this.

00:26:20.000 So, you know, this is certainly a victory for Daniel Penny, but it's not the end of the road.

00:26:26.000 And it's also not the end of the road in terms of the public reaction.

00:26:30.000 In the days after the original lack of charges against Penny and the protests following, you know, protesters had been arrested with accusations of, like, throwing Molotov cocktails and such.

00:26:45.000 In fact, that hearing was during this trial.

00:26:48.000 So the story is certainly not over.

00:26:51.000 Joe, thank you very much, and thank you for coming on.

00:26:56.000 I'm taking in the full extent of what this is all going to mean, and I think you're correct that a big thing we need to focus on is it doesn't end here.

00:27:06.000 Obviously, if you can donate to support him, if his Give, Send, Go is still operating, we'll want people to support that.

00:27:12.000 And we have to make sure that we follow up on Building a world where there's not even a fear that if you are protecting your fellow Americans when they're in distress, when they're in danger, that you would have to worry about this sort of punitive, anarcho-tyranny lawfare being levied against you.

00:27:34.000 I'm already seeing people say this, that the damage is already done.

00:27:37.000 That because Penny had these charges brought against him, that no one is going to step up to protect innocent people if they see them in danger.

00:27:46.000 And so we need to make sure that we...

00:27:48.000 We can rebuild people's heroism, that we can send the message that this prosecution was a one-off.

00:27:55.000 It will not recur.

00:27:57.000 So I think we need to look...

00:27:59.000 I don't think we should forget what we were talking about while this case was still underway.

00:28:03.000 There was a lot of focus on the prosecutor in this case.

00:28:07.000 I can't have her name.

00:28:09.000 The assistant DA. Do you remember her name?

00:28:11.000 Daphne Aran.

00:28:11.000 Yes.

00:28:12.000 Yeah, assistant DA Daphne Aran.

00:28:14.000 Very interesting character.

00:28:16.000 Absolutely.

00:28:16.000 Yes.

00:28:17.000 So, you know, people resurface, I think, actually, I think you even posted it, the video where she was gloating that she managed to get a radically reduced sentence for a man who, he murdered someone just during a mugging at an ATM, correct?

00:28:31.000 My understanding of the event, so, so, Davin Iran brought the first restorative justice case in New York City, or at least that's one of her claims to fame. 0.98

00:28:39.000 And the case in which you're referring, I believe the perpetrator stuck up an elderly professor, I think it was, who was shoved over in the course of that altercation.

00:28:54.000 In the course of that robbery, he hits his head and dies as a result of those injuries.

00:29:01.000 Then following that, she agitates for a reduced sentence.

00:29:06.000 Now, if you're interested in this, there's also another case She spoke to the RNC this year and also testified to the House Judiciary Committee and calls out Daphne Iran by name for an unsatisfactory sentence along these same lines.

00:29:22.000 All right.

00:29:23.000 Do you have a social media people want to follow or a publication where people can read your work?

00:29:28.000 Sure, yes.

00:29:29.000 My Twitter is, you can follow me on Twitter, I'm at JBRUCJ. I'm Joseph Brucher, and I'll be writing up on this for IM1776. Joseph, thank you very much.

00:29:41.000 Thanks for all of your work covering this massive story, and thanks for coming on the program.

00:29:45.000 Thank you so much for having me.

00:29:49.000 Hey everybody, Charlie Kirk here.

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00:30:49.000 We have Jack Posobiec still with us.

00:30:53.000 I know he's been very closely following this UnitedHealth CEO shooting.

00:30:57.000 And, Jack, I think we should just go through.

00:31:00.000 Do you see this New York Times set of details that they've been putting out about this?

00:31:06.000 That they've found.

00:31:07.000 Apparently they found a manifesto on the person of this guy.

00:31:10.000 They caught him at an Altoona McDonald's.

00:31:12.000 Someone saw him, thought, that looks like the guy. - Okay, the first thing we have to say, the first thing we have to say is, Before we get to the manifesto, before we get to the fact that it looks like he may have still had the weapon on him, the suppressed, some kind of modified firearm, but the fact that he was caught at a McDonald's because he couldn't resist, folks.

00:31:36.000 I guess he just couldn't resist.

00:31:38.000 He's on the lam.

00:31:38.000 He's got everyone in the country looking for him, and he just couldn't resist those fries.

00:31:43.000 He saw that Donald Trump video going around and said, Those fries just look a little too good when Trump makes them.

00:31:49.000 Maybe I can get a little of that so he gets caught in Altoona, so that's on the way to Pittsburgh, across the Midwest, northern tier of Pennsylvania, across from New York City.

00:32:00.000 We knew that he was riding buses beforehand, so that could have been It sounds like that's what he was doing, but rather than having been necessarily caught by tracking the buses, it does look as though he was caught because a McDonald's employee at the restaurant observed him, recognized him from the images that we've all seen, and decided to do the right thing.

00:32:26.000 So again, very similar to the Daniel Penny situation in a certain sense, Because, once again here, you have a good Samaritan deciding to do the right thing and step up instead of just let something go by.

00:32:40.000 Yeah, and the details of this stop are pretty wild.

00:32:43.000 This is CNN reporting on it.

00:32:44.000 Let's play clip 22. So Dana, this starts as a very routine day in a McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania, which has like three McDonald's.

00:32:54.000 But an employee there looks at this person and has been seeing on CNN and everywhere else these photos from the NYPD of this masked person with the hood where they're saying, look beyond New York because we think the person has left the city.

00:33:10.000 And she believes that this person resembles the photos that have been put out She calls 911, gets the Altoona PD, they respond to the McDonald's, they engage this individual, and as they get him to identify himself and look through things, they find a gun, they find a silencer, they find multiple false IDs.

00:33:32.000 Apparently he was just going around in the same getup he did the shooting in with all of the gear.

00:33:37.000 It's wild.

00:33:38.000 Do you remember a couple of days ago we were doing the thought crime show and we were arguing with people and there were still people who said that they thought that this was a professional.

00:33:47.000 And they said, oh, we think this was a real, real assassin, a real-time hitman.

00:33:52.000 And no, no, it was not.

00:33:54.000 This was someone who...

00:33:56.000 Yeah, and the fact that there are documents here.

00:34:00.000 Look, so we have the writing on the...

00:34:01.000 The bullet shells was the first instance that this may be something to do with a political-type motive, someone who's animated with anger and animus towards healthcare CEOs and CEOs in general, and now we have this information about, quote, and I think they're stopping short of saying manifesto yet, they're just saying manifesto-like documents, but that certainly seems to be the rumor that's going around.

00:34:30.000 Also, I think there was one of his backpacks that was found, that designer backpack.

00:34:36.000 By the way, all the clothes in this case, there were some memes going around saying that all the clothes in the backpacks were designer clothes and designer jackets.

00:34:43.000 Everything about this is incredible.

00:34:46.000 The fact that his gun is apparently, they're saying it's a ghost gun, like he built it himself with parts he either printed or bought online.

00:34:55.000 And the way...

00:34:57.000 Yeah, like, designer clothes.

00:34:58.000 He has multiple false IDs.

00:35:01.000 Manifesto-like document.

00:35:03.000 Like, what?

00:35:03.000 Does it have to be, like, at least 12 pages?

00:35:05.000 And the backpack was filled with Monopoly money.

00:35:07.000 Over the weekend, the backpack that was recovered was apparently found...

00:35:11.000 It was filled with Monopoly money.

00:35:13.000 Actual Monopoly or, like, countersaying?

00:35:16.000 Well, we'll have to...

00:35:17.000 That remains to be seen.

00:35:18.000 That remains to be seen.

00:35:20.000 But, no, they were...

00:35:21.000 So some people were speculating that perhaps...

00:35:24.000 You know, this was in regards to one of the criticisms of this health insurer was that they have an illegal monopoly on the market.

00:35:32.000 And so perhaps this was a Again, intended as a message to the case or just, you know, regarding money in general.

00:35:42.000 But it does seem to be shaping up that way.

00:35:45.000 I'm just saying it does seem to be shaping up that way.

00:35:47.000 We don't know for sure.

00:35:49.000 There were a lot of people who pointed that out early on.

00:35:52.000 And I think that I was one of the first people who said, no, this was not a professional assassination.

00:35:58.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:35:59.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:36:01.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - December 09, 2024

Daniel Penny Acquitted!

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