The Charlie Kirk Show - Day One of Amfest + The Target Freedom Shirt Patriot

00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.

00:00:05.000 I run the largest pro-American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic.

00:00:11.000 My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth.

00:00:14.000 If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're going to end up miserable.

00:00:19.000 But if the most important thing is doing good, you'll end up purposeful.

00:00:24.000 College is a scam, everybody.

00:00:26.000 You got to stop sending your kids to college.

00:00:27.000 You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible.

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00:00:41.000 Most important decision I ever made in my life.

00:00:43.000 And I encourage you to do the same.

00:00:45.000 Here I am.

00:00:46.000 Lord use me.

00:00:48.000 Buckle up, everybody.

00:00:49.000 Here we go.

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00:01:09.000 All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:11.000 Day one of Amfest.

00:01:12.000 It's about to get kicked off at the Phoenix Convention Center.

00:01:15.000 I'm kind of sad we're not in the convention center already.

00:01:18.000 I felt the same way.

00:01:19.000 Yeah, I think.

00:01:19.000 We made the call earlier in the week because of tech and cruise and where everybody's setting up.

00:01:24.000 I think Charlie would have had us be there.

00:01:26.000 Charlie would want to be there.

00:01:27.000 He would be so Charlie would break glass.

00:01:29.000 I actually don't know if he loved doing the show from this studio, and it is peaceful.

00:01:34.000 It's true.

00:01:34.000 It's a fiend.

00:01:35.000 It's true.

00:01:35.000 You can gather your thoughts.

00:01:37.000 It is a nice place to do a show from.

00:01:39.000 But I had the same thought this morning because you want to be around the people.

00:01:43.000 And tomorrow we're going to be doing the show live from the convention floor media row at the Real America's Voice Booth.

00:01:49.000 So if you were going to be in Phoenix today or tomorrow, meet us there.

00:01:53.000 We're going to come right after Bannon, War Room.

00:01:56.000 I might try and get Bannon to do the show with us at the first block of the show.

00:01:59.000 Just do a little handoff there.

00:02:00.000 And then Steve's actually going to come on for the members-only lounge.

00:02:03.000 We're going to be doing an interview with Steve Bannon, many others.

00:02:06.000 Megan Kelly, Michael Knowles, Riley Gaines, I think Don Jr., but don't quote me on that one just yet, working on schedules.

00:02:12.000 But it's going to be, so we're going to have a packed members lounge.

00:02:16.000 So members.charliekirk.com.

00:02:18.000 If you want to access that and you're going to be at the event, it's a really special moment where if you're a member of the Charlie Kirk show members only community, then you get to come in and watch those interviews happen live.

00:02:29.000 They're pre-recorded, so nobody else gets to see them, just you.

00:02:32.000 You get to ask questions.

00:02:33.000 So that's happening.

00:02:35.000 Tonight, Erica Kirk's going to kick off the event.

00:02:37.000 She's going to welcome everybody.

00:02:39.000 We have tens of thousands of people coming.

00:02:41.000 I'm just going to leave it vague.

00:02:43.000 Okay, I'm leaving it vague.

00:02:45.000 Tens of thousands.

00:02:46.000 It's going to be big.

00:02:47.000 All the major media is going to be.

00:02:48.000 We got an email where someone was sending off her teenage kids to go to Amfest at 3.30 a.m. from Iowa.

00:02:55.000 Yeah, I mean, it's going to be, there's after parties.

00:02:58.000 There's, I think Knowles is doing like a cigar party, which will be fun.

00:03:03.000 I don't know anything about it other than that, but it's going to be fun.

00:03:06.000 It's going to be great.

00:03:07.000 And it's funny.

00:03:08.000 I've already had two interviews this morning with, I would say, right of center media, but they, you know, they were all asking.

00:03:14.000 It's like, well, okay, the movement has been divided.

00:03:16.000 Do you think Amfest can unite it?

00:03:18.000 And my answer is simply, listen, we have a raucous bunch of people that make up the conservative movement.

00:03:25.000 They represent all different factions of the conservative movement.

00:03:27.000 Blake, you would occupy one lane.

00:03:29.000 I'd probably be in a slightly different.

00:03:31.000 We disagree on things all the time.

00:03:34.000 Blake's laughing.

00:03:35.000 Yes, every morning I come in and go, hey, what about this? 0.99

00:03:38.000 And then Blake says, that's dumb. 1.00

00:03:40.000 That's stupid. 1.00

00:03:41.000 But to be fair, you did that with Charlie too. 1.00

00:03:41.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:03:44.000 All the time.

00:03:45.000 So anyways, but yet we are one big happy family.

00:03:48.000 And when you focus your attention on a North star on a, listen, do you want to live in Mamdani's America? 0.91

00:03:56.000 I certainly don't.

00:03:57.000 And while we have a bunch of differences among the factions, when you have an event that gathers everybody together and says, here is our goal.

00:04:05.000 And by the way, that person that you think you're in a Twitter fight with over there, they're actually not that terrible of a person.

00:04:11.000 You guys talk it out.

00:04:12.000 Things happen.

00:04:12.000 Relationships get formed.

00:04:15.000 Organizations cross-pollinate.

00:04:17.000 You go to the breakout sessions.

00:04:19.000 These events are powerful.

00:04:20.000 Charlie knew that.

00:04:21.000 That's why we put so much of an emphasis on these major conferences at Turning Point, because in real life, experiences are more important than ever.

00:04:29.000 When everybody's so online, when everybody's, you know, they get down these rabbit holes of this debate or this conspiracy theory or whatever.

00:04:36.000 When you come together as one movement and one room and one building, I think magic happens.

00:04:42.000 So that's the prayer.

00:04:43.000 So send your prayers for Amfest.

00:04:45.000 I think it's going to be one of the most important events in recent memory.

00:04:49.000 Certainly, it's going to be our first without Charlie.

00:04:51.000 And that's really sad.

00:04:52.000 But I also know that, you know, Charlie's going to be there with us in spirit.

00:04:57.000 The whole event is going to be gathered around sort of his mission and the legacy and the things that he would want us to do.

00:05:04.000 So if you can't make it, it will be right here on Real America's Voice.

00:05:07.000 They're going to be streaming all the speeches on Real America's Voice.

00:05:11.000 Rumble's going to be streaming them online and lots of other things going on.

00:05:16.000 Blake, you, this is going to be what, your third Amphest or fourth?

00:05:22.000 Fourth.

00:05:23.000 Is it your fourth?

00:05:24.000 Yes.

00:05:25.000 First one was end of 22.

00:05:26.000 Yeah, well, so you missed the you missed the COVID biofuel.

00:05:30.000 That was long before my time.

00:05:32.000 Everybody got COVID the first year.

00:05:33.000 Now it's cool to say.

00:05:33.000 Oh, man.

00:05:34.000 Do we have to cover that up?

00:05:35.000 Because they did the whole super spreader event.

00:05:38.000 We didn't talk about it too much.

00:05:40.000 Everybody got COVID.

00:05:41.000 I did not get COVID.

00:05:42.000 You know, the first time I got COVID actually was at our other event, which was a super spreader event, which was December 2020.

00:05:48.000 It was before we did Amfest.

00:05:49.000 We had Student Action Summit in Florida.

00:05:51.000 And I definitely got COVID at that event.

00:05:54.000 So I got the OG COVID at that one.

00:05:56.000 But everybody, you guys need to come check it out.

00:05:58.000 And if you can't make it, then you need to just watch it right here at Real America's Voice or stream it on Rumble.

00:06:04.000 Blake, let's talk about Venezuela.

00:06:05.000 The Ropa Dope-Dope.

00:06:08.000 They trolled us pretty hard on it.

00:06:08.000 The Ropa Dope.

00:06:10.000 They trolled us really hard.

00:06:11.000 Everybody thought it was going to be about Venezuela.

00:06:14.000 If you missed it, President Trump said I will be giving an address to the nation at 9 p.m. tonight.

00:06:19.000 And I think he even said about things related to my accomplishments this term.

00:06:23.000 I think they did semi-announce that.

00:06:25.000 But everyone thought he'd also been hyping up.

00:06:28.000 We had this big armada surrounding Venezuela.

00:06:31.000 And then there were people, Tucker actually said he'd heard from a congressman it was going to be announcing a war.

00:06:37.000 And so you just had a lot of speculation about this.

00:06:39.000 And the result of it was that he's talking at primetime and all the networks and all the news outlets, they bother to cover it because you definitely want to get it if he's announcing a war.

00:06:50.000 And instead he just trots out and talks about his domestic policies for the past year.

00:06:54.000 It was a, it was a, listen, I, I have reason to believe that this was intentional.

00:06:59.000 The misdirection was intentional.

00:07:00.000 The question is, were people like Tucker in on it?

00:07:03.000 I've heard rumors that Tucker knew exactly what he was doing.

00:07:05.000 I've heard rumors that they maybe he didn't.

00:07:08.000 I don't know.

00:07:08.000 But anyways, everybody thought that it was going to be about Venezuela and we were going to be invading Venezuela.

00:07:13.000 I was just sitting in my computer going like, that's going to be fun.

00:07:18.000 Everything about Amfest is now going to be about foreign policy, which is not at all what we wanted to make it.

00:07:23.000 So the fact that this is what ended up happening was, I think, a stroke of genius and a masterful touch.

00:07:30.000 Let's go ahead and play some of these clips.

00:07:32.000 271.

00:07:33.000 Next year, you will also see the results of the largest tax cuts in American history.

00:07:39.000 Many families will be saving between $11,000 and $20,000 a year.

00:07:45.000 And next spring is projected to be the largest tax refund season of all time.

00:07:51.000 All right.

00:07:51.000 So then he talks about warrior dividends.

00:07:55.000 So every member of our armed forces, there's like 1.45 million of them, are going to get 1,776.

00:08:01.000 $1,776.

00:08:03.000 I mean, hey, listen, it's better than nothing.

00:08:06.000 I love giving some of the things that are going to be a good $2.5 billion.

00:08:11.000 It's a little bit of the tariff revenue.

00:08:13.000 So it looks like that's probably going to be what the tariff revenue goes to.

00:08:17.000 I mean, there was a spirited debate in the right about whether or not we should use that money to pay down debts, which I think we should.

00:08:24.000 But, you know, there is a political incentive to give away free money.

00:08:27.000 Let's just be honest.

00:08:28.000 Yeah, there is.

00:08:29.000 And so to do it for the men and women in the armed services is actually probably, I could settle with that as a threading the needle move.

00:08:38.000 So I'm okay with that.

00:08:40.000 293. When the world looks at us next year, let them see a nation that is loyal to its citizens, faithful to its workers, confident to its identity, certain to its destiny, and the envy of the entire globe.

00:08:40.000 Let's keep going here.

00:08:56.000 We are respected again like we have never been respected before.

00:09:01.000 You know, you said something earlier this week.

00:09:03.000 I think it was with Steve Dace, where you said you looked at China and you were like, well, China, at least, you know, is proud of itself.

00:09:09.000 And I really believe that this is, when we talk about saving the West, it's about restoring our self-confidence in the greatness of our cultures and the greatness of our heritage.

00:09:20.000 How much of American life is really on that fulcrum?

00:09:26.000 It pivots on that fulcrum.

00:09:27.000 A great deal.

00:09:28.000 It's especially just if you look at what really goes around in the discourse in university campuses, especially a lot of the left, but increasingly on the right too.

00:09:38.000 It's just it actually frequently is dispirited and anti-American.

00:09:41.000 And that's not an attitude that tolerates any sort of sacrifice for the future, sacrifice for the good of the country.

00:09:51.000 If you don't love your family, you probably won't treat them well.

00:09:54.000 And if you don't love your country, you probably won't treat it well either.

00:09:56.000 I totally agree with that.

00:09:58.000 I think that is the central, I guess, question of the modern age for the West.

00:10:04.000 Do we believe in ourselves and our culture?

00:10:06.000 Do you believe in your country?

00:10:08.000 Do you believe in your country existing?

00:10:09.000 Or do you believe that you are systemically oppressive and racist and bigoted just for existing?

00:10:14.000 I don't.

00:10:15.000 I struggle with approximately zero white guilt.

00:10:18.000 I struggle with approximately zero guilt of being a Western Christian straight male.

00:10:24.000 Zero.

00:10:25.000 I got zero.

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00:11:29.000 Blake, I want to hit this story about this really sweet lady that is, she works at Target. 1.00

00:11:37.000 She's wearing a Charlie Kirk show or a Charlie Kirk shirt, a red one, because it's Target. 1.00

00:11:44.000 Apparently, you were able to wear a red shirt at Target.

00:11:47.000 And she gets verbally accosted by this little person.

00:11:53.000 It's a time traveler from 2020, basically.

00:11:55.000 Yeah, it felt like BLM all over.

00:11:57.000 Yeah, just these awful people.

00:11:59.000 Cameras were a mistake. 0.94

00:12:00.000 And she posted a lot of people.

00:12:02.000 She posted it.

00:12:02.000 I know.

00:12:03.000 She posted it herself.

00:12:04.000 She posted it.

00:12:05.000 It's really.

00:12:06.000 So this story.

00:12:06.000 Okay.

00:12:06.000 I thought it made her look awesome.

00:12:08.000 This story has many twists and turns.

00:12:10.000 Let's go ahead and play the original accosting clip, the harassment clip, 222.

00:12:16.000 It doesn't have to be a.

00:12:17.000 It's a Charlie Kirk shirt.

00:12:18.000 Yes.

00:12:19.000 Oh, yes, I know. 1.00

00:12:20.000 Are you stupid? 1.00

00:12:21.000 No. 1.00

00:12:22.000 Why the f would you wear that?

00:12:23.000 You're at work at Target.

00:12:25.000 That's not a Target shirt.

00:12:27.000 It's not a plain red shirt. 0.97

00:12:30.000 You support a racist.

00:12:32.000 It's not racist. 0.68

00:12:34.000 You support a racist.

00:12:35.000 He's not a racist.

00:12:36.000 Yes, he is.

00:12:38.000 Yes, he is.

00:12:39.000 I'm sorry, but I'm not going to sit here and argue with you.

00:12:41.000 You're not.

00:12:42.000 You should go get your manager.

00:12:43.000 You should not be allowed to wear that at work.

00:12:45.000 Unacceptable.

00:12:47.000 Unfing acceptable.

00:12:48.000 That's your opinion. 0.92

00:12:50.000 The opinion is he's a finger racist and you support him. 0.92

00:12:52.000 That's your opinion there.

00:12:54.000 And you should not be allowed to wear that.

00:12:57.000 This is going to be taken above your head.

00:13:00.000 That's insane.

00:13:02.000 Insane. 0.86

00:13:05.000 This is going to be taken above your head. 1.00

00:13:08.000 I love how she goes, it's not racist.

00:13:10.000 Okay, have a nice day.

00:13:11.000 I'm not going to sit here and argue. 0.98

00:13:13.000 What a beautiful response to a crazy person. 0.83

00:13:16.000 Which, oh my God. 0.99

00:13:17.000 I mean, just nasty.

00:13:18.000 And so, listen, there was a give, send, go.

00:13:21.000 I want to give a huge shout out to Cassandra Fairbanks, who messaged me about this and let me know that it was even a thing.

00:13:28.000 And then she helped set up the give, send, go.

00:13:31.000 So go ahead and throw up 289.

00:13:33.000 I actually don't know if this is the number, but they started trying to raise $50,000 just to bless this woman.

00:13:39.000 And now it is over $200,000 raised.

00:13:42.000 I'm going to get the latest amount.

00:13:44.000 Yeah, yeah, find the latest amount. 0.99

00:13:45.000 And Cassandra Fairbanks, you are a good human for doing this and for just her name's Jeannie from Target. 0.95

00:13:54.000 And it's from Chino or something. 1.00

00:13:56.000 Anyways, what a sweet, sweet lady. 1.00

00:13:58.000 She handled that with such grace and poise.

00:14:01.000 And now somebody has found Jeannie and asked her a couple questions.

00:14:06.000 And she just keeps winning hearts.

00:14:08.000 Like, this is the heartbeat in the core of the character of America.

00:14:15.000 That's really what I think about it.

00:14:17.000 Jeannie is a sweetheart.

00:14:18.000 273. 0.99

00:14:20.000 I know people are calling for her to be fired for this.

00:14:23.000 Do you think that that's right?

00:14:24.000 Would you like that to happen?

00:14:26.000 No.

00:14:27.000 I don't think that's right.

00:14:29.000 Like, one saying I have is two wrongs don't make a right.

00:14:34.000 You know, she wronged me, but I don't want to wrong her.

00:14:38.000 Or I don't want her wrong because it's not going to make it right.

00:14:42.000 I mean, that was her opinion.

00:14:46.000 She, but she's the one that put it on Facebook or put it on that.

00:14:53.000 So, you know, but I really wouldn't want to see somebody lose their job over it.

00:15:00.000 Very sweet.

00:15:01.000 Current total, $220,277.

00:15:05.000 I think we took that screen grab this morning and show prep, so it has grown 80%.

00:15:08.000 Still growing.

00:15:09.000 And you want, I see there's a few people.

00:15:11.000 They do those parasitic ones that might, you know, aren't the same.

00:15:14.000 The one you want is the one you want is givesendgo.com/slash genie from Target.

00:15:21.000 G-E-A-N-I-E, Genie from Target.

00:15:25.000 It's also the one created by Cassandra Fairbanks with funds to be received by Jeannie Beeman.

00:15:31.000 That's the one you want. 0.99

00:15:32.000 God bless her. 1.00

00:15:33.000 And by the way, she literally is trying to deny the money, and I don't think Cassandra's going to let her.

00:15:39.000 No, you should. 0.99

00:15:40.000 And that's how sweet this woman is.

00:15:42.000 She's like, no, no, no, I don't want all this attention.

00:15:43.000 I don't want.

00:15:44.000 And I think we're sort of winning her over and trying to say, Jeannie, you will accept our love.

00:15:51.000 Let us bless you.

00:15:52.000 You sweet lady.

00:15:54.000 And I just love that she, first of all, has the courage to wear a Charlie Kirk show at Target in California in Chino.

00:16:02.000 And by the way, Chino's got a lot of wingers, right-wingers, and it's not, it's, it's not a, it's not like all of California has got no conservatives.

00:16:10.000 Chino's got some conservatives, but so she's in there.

00:16:12.000 She's wearing the shirt. 0.79

00:16:13.000 She gets accosted.

00:16:14.000 She gets wronged.

00:16:15.000 Genie acknowledged that.

00:16:16.000 She wronged me, sure.

00:16:18.000 And but she handled it with such grace and dignity. 0.90

00:16:20.000 And then people are calling for this gal. 1.00

00:16:22.000 You can show the give send go again. 1.00

00:16:24.000 So the gal on the left is the uh the woman that you know with her phone up, she went and got her, started swearing in her face.

00:16:32.000 And I love that it's red v. Blue too, which is which is kind of fun.

00:16:35.000 So that she's a radical progressive who goes and thinks it's cool to go harass a woman that's probably in her 60s or 70s, who's minding her own business, just working a job at Target. 1.00

00:16:45.000 How dare you?

00:16:46.000 Like, honestly, I don't really care enough to go much harder than that because you beclowned yourself, you embarrassed yourself.

00:16:53.000 But God bless you, Jeannie.

00:16:54.000 Do you think we'll be able to get her to Amphas?

00:16:55.000 I know Tyler said we should.

00:16:57.000 I think we're working on it.

00:16:59.000 That's all I'm going to say.

00:17:00.000 Who knows?

00:17:02.000 Jeannie, Jeannie wants to avoid the spotlight, and I can appreciate that.

00:17:04.000 But we're trying to get it.

00:17:05.000 Well, whatever happens, we salute you, Jeannie.

00:17:07.000 We love you.

00:17:08.000 Thank you so much for the love you showed, Charlie.

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00:18:14.000 Joining us now is the great, the wonderful, the excellent, the inquisitive Libby Emmons, editor-in-chief of the Postmillennial and Human Events.

00:18:22.000 Welcome, Libby, to the show.

00:18:23.000 It is Amfest day one.

00:18:25.000 Are you going to be joining us?

00:18:27.000 I'm here in Phoenix right now.

00:18:27.000 I sure am.

00:18:28.000 I'm getting set to go over there just a little bit.

00:18:31.000 I should have had you on set.

00:18:32.000 What are we doing here?

00:18:33.000 It's well, tomorrow, maybe we'll just have to have you back on again, but we'll do it on set because there's lots to discuss.

00:18:42.000 Libby, I noticed that you were, you know, tweeting about this, what is quickly becoming probably one of the most bungled or at least apparently incompetent investigations I've ever seen.

00:18:57.000 It really is.

00:18:58.000 And that's the Brown shooting.

00:19:00.000 So could you just bring us up to speed?

00:19:02.000 Where are we at now and what do we need to know?

00:19:05.000 Well, so far, I believe we are at nowhere.

00:19:08.000 We are exactly where we were shortly after the shooting.

00:19:12.000 The police don't really seem to have any leads.

00:19:14.000 They don't seem to have any real information to go on.

00:19:18.000 Every time you watch one of these press conferences, which they deliver every evening from Providence, they tell you how the police are not demoralized and they're doing a great job and everyone's working together.

00:19:28.000 And once they crack the case, it'll crack wide open, but nothing seems to be happening.

00:19:33.000 They released their first person of interest.

00:19:36.000 Then there was another person of interest that they have been looking for.

00:19:39.000 Then they're looking for another person of interest.

00:19:42.000 They can't seem to find anybody.

00:19:43.000 They don't really give any information about it.

00:19:46.000 Last night when they were being asked by the press about this person of interest, they could not even say whether or not it was a man or a woman that they were looking for.

00:19:54.000 So that's kind of a big thing.

00:19:56.000 And then one thing that I found really, really shocking is that they have not even interviewed all of the students that were in the classroom at the time of the shooting.

00:20:06.000 They have, they say that they have been, the police say they have been working with Brown University to get the names of those individuals and to get in contact with them, but that Brown has sent out an email to all students saying, hey, if you were in this classroom for this study session, let us know so you can talk to police.

00:20:23.000 But police have not talked to all of those students and they don't even know who all of them were.

00:20:28.000 And in the press conference yesterday, they wouldn't even say what kind of gun was used because they are worried that that would influence the answers of the students when they eventually get around to talking to them.

00:20:40.000 Yeah.

00:20:40.000 So they're how do they not have all the students in the actual scene of the crime?

00:20:48.000 And they're sending out emails asking for, I mean, how is that even a thing?

00:20:53.000 You would say, how is that even possible?

00:20:55.000 Yeah.

00:20:56.000 How is that even possible?

00:20:57.000 How do they not know?

00:20:58.000 Like, go, they were on the crime scene shortly after the shooting.

00:21:02.000 The whole school was in shelter in place lockdown until the morning on Sunday.

00:21:08.000 And they didn't stop to say, hey, let's talk to every single person in that classroom.

00:21:12.000 Instead, they took in a person of interest.

00:21:14.000 They went and searched his hotel room, whatever.

00:21:16.000 Sunday night, that person was released.

00:21:18.000 Brown had already shut down the campus till the end of the term and sent everybody home.

00:21:22.000 So now all they can do is like hope that they can get out to Peoria or whatever and get in touch with the students who were in the room.

00:21:29.000 And there's also indications, and this is not something police have really said, but there's indications that it was just the one student who was intentionally targeted.

00:21:38.000 We don't seem to have any answers on that.

00:21:41.000 And that would seem to be a huge indication of who the suspect might be if you knew who it was that they were targeting.

00:21:49.000 But there's absolutely nothing. 1.00

00:21:50.000 This AG, Peter Narona, he seems like a total fool. 0.99

00:21:55.000 He just goes out there and he's like, oh, the cops are doing a great job. 0.99

00:21:58.000 And the cops are like, yeah, we don't really have any answers.

00:22:00.000 And they're encouraging the public to come forward and give any information that they have.

00:22:05.000 But as soon as the public says anything on Twitter, they get yelled at.

00:22:08.000 You know, I mean, what is going on?

00:22:11.000 This guy is clearly just going to get away at this point.

00:22:14.000 It's been, what, five days?

00:22:16.000 Rhode Island is a small state.

00:22:18.000 There's no reason to believe he's still in state.

00:22:20.000 There's no reason to believe he's still in the country.

00:22:23.000 They say the line from the Providence police chief was, he could be anywhere.

00:22:27.000 We don't know where the person is or who he is.

00:22:30.000 Wow, that really, that's really inspiring confidence.

00:22:33.000 And I'm reading other stuff here.

00:22:34.000 Apparently, the city of Providence has this new program to basically give police real-time access to security cameras.

00:22:43.000 And there's hundreds of security cameras around the city they have real-time access to.

00:22:46.000 But you can probably guess where there's a giant black hole where they don't have access to the security camera footage.

00:22:50.000 Brown University.

00:22:51.000 Yeah, right.

00:22:51.000 Brown University.

00:22:52.000 No access.

00:22:54.000 There was also a question.

00:22:56.000 One of the reporters last night said, Hey, we saw in some security footage, we saw this person walking past a patrol car.

00:23:04.000 Did you get anything off the dash cam of that car?

00:23:08.000 And the chief of police said, Oh, that we believe that was a Brown security vehicle.

00:23:13.000 And we don't know if they have dash cams installed.

00:23:16.000 They don't know.

00:23:17.000 Like they didn't ask.

00:23:18.000 Have they asked?

00:23:19.000 Like, what are they doing?

00:23:22.000 We need to have these press conferences because apparently they can get good ideas from us.

00:23:25.000 Oh, oh, we should ask.

00:23:27.000 That sounds like a great idea.

00:23:29.000 Anyone else?

00:23:30.000 Is it a group ideation session?

00:23:32.000 We're just going to throw out creative.

00:23:34.000 Good.

00:23:34.000 Oh, okay.

00:23:34.000 Dash cam on a screen.

00:23:36.000 See you hauling.

00:23:38.000 275.

00:23:39.000 They have found live rounds.

00:23:41.000 They're hoping to get DNA off this 275.

00:23:44.000 What I can tell you from my sourcing is that I think quite significantly they have live rounds.

00:23:51.000 That is rounds that were not fired, undetonated rounds.

00:23:54.000 Live rounds at this scene, I think, is a hopeful sign for getting usable DNA, even if he's not in the database.

00:24:01.000 Remember, they can use that familial DNA technique that we saw in the Kohlberger case.

00:24:07.000 It gets to a cousin or something.

00:24:08.000 You work back from there.

00:24:10.000 So I think that's a positive sign for the investigation.

00:24:12.000 And I can tell you they're scraping very hard at it.

00:24:15.000 I have to play this clip, Blake, because this is just shocking.

00:24:19.000 I got it from Libby highlighted it.

00:24:21.000 It's 301.

00:24:22.000 This is them admitting they don't even know which students were in the room when the shooting began.

00:24:28.000 I just cannot believe this.

00:24:29.000 301.

00:24:30.000 That's all part of the interviews.

00:24:31.000 And actually, we're cooperating with Brown to get the roster.

00:24:35.000 That was a study hold, so we don't have the number.

00:24:37.000 We're still getting information as far as who was there.

00:24:40.000 I know Brown sent out an email to the students to notify us if they were present.

00:24:45.000 And we're still getting that, so I can't give you an exact account.

00:24:48.000 We sent out emails.

00:24:49.000 I just, this really, so we're bullying the police, but really the focus needs to be, I think, heavily on Brown here.

00:24:57.000 That they're not, it's clear that the police are requesting this information.

00:25:00.000 And it seems, I'll be frank, it seems like Brown doesn't care about catching a person who murdered two of their students.

00:25:07.000 Yeah, and that's a fair point.

00:25:09.000 So Brown was caught sort of scrubbing their web pages of a certain person.

00:25:14.000 Again, we're not going to mention this person because we don't know if this person is actually guilty of anything or involved at all.

00:25:21.000 But they were caught scrubbing a Muslim student who went by he, they pronouns.

00:25:26.000 There's who has a sort of portly shape.

00:25:29.000 Portly shape.

00:25:30.000 And the first person of interest, they had a portly shape, looked like it could be a match.

00:25:35.000 Do we know?

00:25:36.000 And then they get this other person of interest.

00:25:38.000 Are we supposed to assume there was multiple people involved, or is that first person of interest now no longer a person of interest?

00:25:43.000 Like, what's going on here?

00:25:45.000 What do we know about this?

00:25:46.000 So they indicate after the first person of interest was released, they came up with a second person of interest.

00:25:51.000 That second person of interest, on I believe, what is today?

00:25:54.000 It's Thursday.

00:25:54.000 On Tuesday night, they said that that second person of interest was likely a suspect when they were questioned about it.

00:26:00.000 And now they are looking for, in fact, a third person of interest who may know the second person of interest.

00:26:06.000 So that is sort of the timeline.

00:26:09.000 They won't tell us if any of these people have a specific gender, or maybe they better know if it has a specific gender identity.

00:26:16.000 Who knows?

00:26:17.000 But yeah, then they were caught scrubbing the pages of this one student.

00:26:21.000 And then sort of surprisingly, what they did is they came out in a press conference.

00:26:24.000 Again, this was the Tuesday one.

00:26:26.000 They came out in a press conference shaming everyone for looking around for who this person of interest, you know, number two, could be.

00:26:34.000 And they were like, hey, you know, you're doxing people.

00:26:38.000 You're talking about people.

00:26:39.000 How dare you implicate anybody at all?

00:26:43.000 Meanwhile, hey, send us all your tips.

00:26:46.000 Let us know what you're seeing.

00:26:47.000 We have no idea who this is, but don't talk about it amongst yourselves.

00:26:50.000 Just come talk to the police about it.

00:26:52.000 So that seems a little irresponsible as well.

00:26:55.000 On the press conference yesterday, they were saying, hey, there's AI images being shared.

00:27:01.000 These are not accurate.

00:27:02.000 We have a folder online.

00:27:04.000 You can look at all of the images that we have.

00:27:06.000 But I think the fact of the matter is that the public would not be so interested and determined in trying to find out any information conceivable about this shooter if the police and Brown University were more forthcoming or had perhaps identified a suspect of some kind.

00:27:23.000 You know, I mean, people want to know who the shooter is, who wandered onto this Brown campus, managed to get into a secure facility and opened fire on students.

00:27:33.000 They want to know who that is.

00:27:34.000 Parents want to know.

00:27:35.000 The community wants to know.

00:27:37.000 I know Jack Pasobic was reporting this morning that he had heard from some pretty high-level sources that Ella Cook, the vice president of the College Republicans at Brown, was indeed targeted.

00:27:48.000 Now, we're not hearing that from officials.

00:27:50.000 So, again, that's just one report.

00:27:52.000 We've heard other reporting that seems to indicate that could be true.

00:27:56.000 I'm going to reserve final judgment there, but that came straight from Jack.

00:27:59.000 Jack said that came from a good source.

00:28:01.000 So, do we know?

00:28:03.000 Are we closer to getting them to confirm that?

00:28:05.000 Why the reticence?

00:28:06.000 Do they just simply don't know?

00:28:07.000 I don't think we can know until they've caught a suspect.

00:28:10.000 Well, it seemed like this person walked right into the room and targeted Ella Cook directly, multiple shots.

00:28:17.000 I think maybe even eight shots or something.

00:28:19.000 And the reporting from Poso is that the other victims in the room were just incidental to that.

00:28:27.000 So, again, we don't know.

00:28:29.000 I can't confirm that again.

00:28:30.000 I'm just saying that's one report that seems to make at least some sense.

00:28:34.000 And why that's important, if we know that she was targeted, then that tells us a lot about motivation.

00:28:40.000 That tells us who we should be looking for.

00:28:42.000 I mean, a lot hinges on that.

00:28:44.000 So, if there's any indication that that would be true, we need to know that.

00:28:46.000 Yeah.

00:28:47.000 And also, if Ella Cook was directly targeted and she was targeted by, you know, someone who was affiliated with the university, because otherwise, why would they be there?

00:28:56.000 How would they have gotten in?

00:28:58.000 You could imagine that there would have been social media chatter between that person and Ms. Cook, or that person condemning things that Ms. Cook had said, because these things don't just start when you start opening fire.

00:29:11.000 You know, it starts on social media.

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00:30:24.000 You know, this, again, you've, you've chastised us a bit, Blake, for bullying the police here, but I just have, I have to play this clip because I don't doubt that Colonel Oscar Perez and the Providence Police are doing their level best.

00:30:41.000 I mean, maybe I doubt it a little bit, but it might just be as good as they can do.

00:30:45.000 But the incompetence is clearly visible to everybody.

00:30:48.000 And there's an older clip here a couple years ago of him talking, bragging about the diversity.

00:30:53.000 I mean, it just goes, like, it always happens this way.

00:30:57.000 Oh.

00:30:57.000 303.

00:30:58.000 We're a majority minority city.

00:31:01.000 To really understand what it means to police South Providence, the West End, Oniville, the East Side of Providence, when you have an officer that responds to a call, and I'll put myself as an example of a Latino call and there's a party going on or a Puerto Rican party or a Colombian party, we tend to be loud.

00:31:21.000 And so if you're not used to an understanding of what that means, you may escalate a situation that did not require an escalation.

00:31:29.000 According to the FBI, you know, in 1965, we had a 90% clearance rate on homicides.

00:31:35.000 The police charged a suspect in over 90% of cases, and we are down to 55% as of 2020.

00:31:45.000 That's nationwide.

00:31:46.000 Yeah, that's nationwide.

00:31:47.000 I wonder what is it in like South Chicago, though.

00:31:50.000 Oh, it's miserable.

00:31:52.000 Isn't it like 20% clear?

00:31:53.000 30% clear?

00:31:54.000 Something like that, yeah.

00:31:55.000 It's terrible.

00:31:56.000 And they don't want to talk to the police.

00:31:57.000 And all of this stuff is a symptom of like larger problems about racial animus and division that has been stoked since really since the 90s.

00:32:07.000 If you care about catching criminals, most of all, you'll catch criminals.

00:32:12.000 If you care about having diversity the most, you'll have a lot of diversity.

00:32:16.000 Yeah.

00:32:18.000 So much to say here.

00:32:19.000 And I just feel like Brown University president, what's her name again?

00:32:23.000 Christina Paxon. 0.97

00:32:24.000 Yeah, she's worried about doxing these people of interest, potentially.

00:32:28.000 The internet is trying to help.

00:32:29.000 This is not like, these are not wild.

00:32:32.000 We shouldn't just spew people's names, but it's understandable why people ask questions about that.

00:32:36.000 When it's being handled so bizarrely.

00:32:38.000 Libby Emmons, editor-in-chief of the Postmillennial and Human Events, is with us.

00:32:44.000 Libby, I'm going to get your broad take on the conservative movement, but I have a little bit of housekeeping.

00:32:48.000 Apparently, I said Chino with Genie from Target.

00:32:52.000 Yeah, that's so inbox just flooded.

00:33:01.000 Can't mess that up.

00:33:03.000 Chico.

00:33:04.000 Okay, Chico.

00:33:05.000 I'm sorry.

00:33:06.000 There's two names in California that sounds very similar, but one is Southern California, one is Northern.

00:33:10.000 This is North of...

00:33:11.000 And Chico is a Republican county.

00:33:14.000 So barely, you said, right?

00:33:16.000 Yes, yes.

00:33:16.000 It's like a few percentage points.

00:33:18.000 Went for Trump.

00:33:19.000 The other piece of housekeeping I want to get to is that, you know, I think there's confusion about the radio part.

00:33:27.000 The show will continue on Real America's Voice.

00:33:29.000 This is something Charlie had actually decided before he was killed that we were going to be kind of more focused on streaming and the over the top and Real America's Voice and podcasting.

00:33:42.000 So this was kind of his decision.

00:33:44.000 We're going with it.

00:33:45.000 We support, we absolutely love Alex Marlowe and Scott Jennings.

00:33:50.000 They're great people.

00:33:51.000 I'm so happy that they're going to get radio time.

00:33:53.000 That just was a different direction, but the show will be at the same timeframe.

00:33:57.000 It'll be right here in January and the next year.

00:34:01.000 And so all good things.

00:34:04.000 I think people are confused about that.

00:34:06.000 So I just want to make a clarifying point.

00:34:08.000 The show is going to be the same time, same place.

00:34:11.000 We're just kind of transitioning to a bit more streaming friendly format for the show and things like that, which is what Charlie wanted to do.

00:34:18.000 All right, Libby Emmons.

00:34:19.000 So there's been a lot made about just the fracturing, the consternation on the right.

00:34:26.000 How do you think we fix that?

00:34:28.000 What would you like to see happen at Amfest?

00:34:30.000 I'm already getting that question a lot this morning, so I wanted to throw it to you as well.

00:34:33.000 Do you think AmFest can be this moment where we kind of crystallize some things and we move into 2026 and strength?

00:34:40.000 Yeah, I do hope that Amfest is an opportunity for people to come together and to coalesce on values and views.

00:34:47.000 I know that it certainly has been in the past, and a lot of people are anxious to see what happens now that Charlie Kirk has been killed.

00:34:55.000 I mean, you guys know better than anyone how devastating that has been personally and for the movement and for everything.

00:35:02.000 Charlie had his hands pretty much on everyone.

00:35:06.000 You know, he touched everything in this movement.

00:35:09.000 And I think that it is up to us to continue that legacy by reaching out hands to each other without, you know, that primary person who just kind of knew everyone and knew what to say.

00:35:20.000 And everyone had pretty much confidence that Charlie was always acting in good faith.

00:35:26.000 I think we need to remember that and need to act in good faith with one another and just come around and say, you know, we agree on the most important things.

00:35:34.000 Let's work together to solidify the strength of this country and to make this a better place.

00:35:42.000 Yeah, I mean, at some point, listen, I actually think movements and coalitions get rebuilt, right?

00:35:50.000 This is like Hillary Clinton did not get the same coalition that Obama when she was running. 0.75

00:35:57.000 Okay, she has to rebuild her own coalition. 1.00

00:36:00.000 H.W. Bush, Reagan, you could make arguments about that. 0.91

00:36:03.000 Sometimes movements have to have a sifting.

00:36:05.000 We have to have an argument.

00:36:06.000 We have to have a debate, and then we come back together.

00:36:10.000 And so I would just say that ultimately we are faced with pretty much a binary choice.

00:36:15.000 Do you want Momdaniism?

00:36:17.000 Do you want AOCism?

00:36:18.000 Do you want Mangioneism?

00:36:20.000 Or do you want MAGAism?

00:36:21.000 Do you want a populist, nationalist, conservative movement?

00:36:25.000 And ultimately, that is going to be a purifying choice at some point, don't you think, Blake?

00:36:31.000 And I don't know when, but...

00:36:32.000 I mean, I guess they can also just choose neither.

00:36:36.000 They could opt out.

00:36:37.000 They could opt out.

00:36:38.000 And I hope they do.

00:36:39.000 Which is disgraceful if you do.

00:36:40.000 That is not the American way. 0.92

00:36:42.000 When I was growing up, it was like, if you didn't participate in the American process, it's your civic life, it was disgraceful.

00:36:48.000 It was dishonorable.

00:36:49.000 And it still is.

00:36:51.000 But it wasn't even something I questioned.

00:36:53.000 37.

00:36:54.000 But we also had this idea, certainly when I was growing up that this was the greatest country in the world, that it was the greatest empire ever built.

00:37:01.000 We never questioned it.

00:37:02.000 And I think we need to get back to that.

00:37:04.000 And I will say, as I was flying out here yesterday from the East Coast, I saw a lot of people in Charlie's Freedom shirt and they were smiling at each other.

00:37:12.000 They were strangers and they were all coming together because they all knew where each other was going and they were glad to see more people like them headed in the right direction.

00:37:20.000 Well, the right direction is Phoenix, Arizona.

00:37:23.000 That is for sure.

00:37:24.000 The center of the conservative universe will be right here at Phoenix Convention Center.

00:37:28.000 Libby, I'll see you maybe tomorrow.

00:37:31.000 Like, maybe we'll just do it again.

00:37:32.000 We'll run it back.

00:37:40.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - December 18, 2025

Day One of Amfest + The Target Freedom Shirt Patriot

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