Gender is an artificial term coined by John Money in the 1960s. Gender doesn't exist. It's a concocted, artificial term that was coined by a man named John Money. And it's still on your driver's license.
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00:03:16.000I guess my question for you then is, do you in your mind know that like in society then like gender is even if you don't think it's a relevant term or if it's real it's still a relevant thing within our society.
00:03:27.000It's still something that's on your driver's license.
00:03:29.000It's still something that's on your doctor's pay points.
00:03:30.000It's still something we have to talk about and it affects society.
00:03:41.000You cannot actually change what you are.
00:03:43.000Gender is an irrelevant thing that we've come up with.
00:03:46.000You can feel that way, but gender is, just because it's irrelevant to you doesn't mean it's irrelevant to transgender people, to queer people.
00:03:52.000Their identities exist whether you agree with them or not.
00:04:05.000I mean, if you think you're something you're not, if you think you're a wolf when you're human, or if you think you're a human when you're a wolf, or vice versa, is that not a mental delusion?
00:07:09.000I mean, but of course you, but first of all, yes, but isn't it just like a little bit silly you can't answer this fundamental biological question of what a woman is?
00:07:17.000But again, you're asking me about sex.
00:07:18.000You're asking me about what a female sex is.
00:07:21.000And I can tell you what the female sex is, but as for a woman, which is a gendered term created from the terminology of the expression of gender.
00:07:29.000We, because we live in reality, reject the term gender.
00:08:35.000Okay, so if there are, if there are sex, if there are sex differences, then how can a man who is of the sex of a man feel what a woman feels?
00:09:56.000You can address them with their name and just their name.
00:09:59.000Well, again, that is something you can do.
00:10:02.000The most civil thing we can do is to tell the truth.
00:10:05.000And I refuse to lie to trans people and accommodate their delusion and to say that even though you say you are a woman or say you are a man, I'm going to accommodate that.
00:11:43.000People need to be supportive of their environment and changing who they are in society.
00:11:47.000And then with the moving forward, if you decided that after time that that is something you wanted to do is receive care, you could do hormones.
00:11:55.000We should affirm a 14-year-old that thinks they're transgender.
00:11:57.000I think we should go out of our way to socially support a transgender 14-year-old and then wait to see what happens later on in their life to decide if they wanted to medically transition or not.
00:12:30.000So your nature is your biological sex.
00:12:34.000And we can agree that people will live a better life if they're in harmony with how they were born.
00:12:39.000I wouldn't necessarily agree with that.
00:12:41.000Okay, but again, we know it's correct because people that are transgender tend to have more depression, more anxiety, not because they're bullied or ridiculed, but because they have these underlying issues.
00:13:38.000So do you think that the Boise State female volleyball team or the Boise State female softball team or whatever, they should have a protected unit that biological men should not be allowed to compete in their if you want to divide it based on sex, you can, but it's not if you're dividing it on gender, then they should be allowed to play because they identify as women.
00:14:00.000If it's about performance, then we can talk about what goes into that individual's care with their health.
00:14:05.000If they're on hormones, if they're not on hormones, whatever is affecting them.
00:14:08.000But ultimately speaking, if we're talking about dividing the gendered sport based on gender, then it is.
00:14:15.000Should we do it on gender or should we do it based on sex?
00:14:17.000Because you've wanted to have everything configured on gender previously.
00:14:20.000Should sports be sex-centric or gender-centric in your own view?
00:14:25.000I feel like sports should be gender-centric.
00:14:27.000Okay, so then you have no issue with a man who is born male at birth, who then becomes a woman, be able to compete against women in women's sports.
00:14:36.000Most people who are transgender and performing in sports are usually at a point in their transition where they are on hormones that lessen.
00:14:42.000If we're talking about specifically transgender.
00:14:46.000We have 890 instances of the last five years of biological men that have won awards or trophies or first place finishes over biological women, over women, from track championships to NCAA swim meets to volleyball meets.
00:15:02.000So you're saying they have an unfair advantage?
00:15:15.000Whereas just that how God designed us, I know this might be new to anthropology students, that men tend to have nearly double the muscle mass, nearly 75% more of the lung capacity.
00:16:04.000It depends on each individual who's playing in sports.
00:16:06.000We might just not agree in terms of the game.
00:16:08.000Just to give you an example, like even the best tennis players, one of the Williams sisters, Venus and Serena Williams, they were not even able to compete up against like college tennis players.
00:16:20.000They were not even able to compete against the hundredth best male.
00:16:22.000I mean, it is such a category difference that, like, I would posit this.
00:16:27.000I would say that the state champion of Idaho high school boys basketball would be able to beat Caitlin Clark one-on-one.
00:16:35.000I actually think the best basketball player in Idaho would be the bet.
00:16:40.000No, it actually is that the best high school basketball players in the country can beat the best WNBA players.
00:16:46.000And it's not even just my conjecture, my speculation.
00:16:52.000I don't, Caitlin Clark, if she's willing to do it, go ahead and step up.
00:16:55.000We do know, however, that high school sophomore basketball teams actually are able to compete up against very good women's basketball teams.
00:17:04.000Like, that's about the level of difference, about a seven-year gap in the sophistication.
00:17:22.000The way you said that sentence is harmful because I know what you're saying, but you're saying men are exponentially better at sports than women.
00:17:30.000There are excellent, excellent women who can out-compete men.
00:17:33.000Okay, but again, at the Pareto principle, so at the 1%, right?
00:17:39.000Can you show me a single woman, a biological woman on the planet that can get within 150 pounds of the world record of the deadlift, the bench press, or squat?
00:17:48.000Can you show me like a single woman that has ever lived that could finish in the top 15th of Olympic weightlifting?
00:17:57.000If you look at the women's weightlifting records and you look at the males' weightlifting records, there's almost like a 40% difference of what the weight they're actually lifting.
00:18:05.000You look at the fastest mile ever run by a woman, the fastest mile ever run by a man.
00:18:15.000And what the transgender movement does at its core is it is a war on nature.
00:18:19.000And we as conservatives accept nature because we think nature is beautiful and we respect it and understand it and don't wish to wage a war on it.
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00:24:28.000But when you see somebody, should the goal be to affirm their gender dysphoria or to get them back in alignment with how they were biologically born?
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00:26:59.000My question, I am not here to try to argue about moral beliefs or anything like that.
00:27:06.000I am here to talk about the reasoning behind enforcing laws onto people, specifically transgender people.
00:27:11.000Whether or not, don't ask me what my definition of a woman is.
00:27:15.000Like you've asked every single other person who has talked about it.
00:27:17.000I am not talking about whether or not their identities are valid because I don't think we will come to an agreement there.
00:27:22.000I'm talking about the reasoning behind enforcing federal laws on these people, to not allow them to use a bathroom, to not allow them to dress the way they want to dress in public, to give our law enforcement the ability to...
00:27:47.000The reasoning behind why you feel the need to enforce laws onto these people and not allow them to express themselves regardless of their identity.
00:27:56.000Should 14-year-olds be able to get tattoos?
00:28:12.000Should a 14-year-old be able to drink or have hard vodka?
00:28:16.000That's also between them and their parents.
00:28:18.000If they're occasionally drinking in the evenings with their parents, keeping them safe, is that not better than restricting them till they're 21 and then they go out partying for the first time?
00:28:28.000They get an alcohol poisoning or something?
00:28:31.000I think it is, I think that's between them and their parents.
00:28:33.000So you would get rid of all those laws.
00:29:26.000No, it's illegal to look through a window at a woman undress.
00:29:29.000Why should it be legal to walk into a locker room to watch women undress?
00:29:32.000Well, that's assuming that they are going in there to watch women undress when they are actually going in there for a space for them to undress themselves in a space where they feel comfortable.
00:29:42.000Why can't they do that in the sex that was on their birth certificate?
00:29:46.000Why can't they undress alongside other men if they're a man?
00:29:50.000They could put a dress on in that locker room, but they're just around other men.
00:30:04.000Somewhere deep down, you agree with me.
00:30:05.000You don't think it's right for people to peep in the windows.
00:30:08.000I don't agree with perverts and allow them to be aware of.
00:30:10.000Well, I know, but that's what you got it.
00:30:12.000So that's the point is that if you are a biological man who thinks you're a woman, you necessitate, you all of a sudden are in the category of perversion when you want to go undress and unrobe around women in locker rooms, and you are not going to protect yourself.
00:30:26.000I think that kind of depends on your definition of perversion because assuming that all transgender women are perverts is a serious thing.
00:31:04.000Autogynophilia is the sexual pleasure that one gets.
00:31:07.000It's the fetish of dressing like women and being around other women that are naked, right?
00:31:11.000So a lot of men that are transgender are actually suffering from autogynophilia because they have a sexual fetish of dressing and dressing.
00:31:18.000Do you know how many trans women are unfortunately this hasn't been radically studied because our scientific literature has been very corrupted by the trans industry?
00:31:26.000But there's a lot of evidence to show autogynophilia is the baseline of a lot of the transgenderism.
00:31:30.000But I just want to make sure that we have a baseline agreement.
00:31:33.000Like, what is to prevent a regular guy on the campus of Boise State say that I'm a girl and he just walks into the girl's locker room?
00:31:40.000At what point are you okay with them walking in the locker room?
00:31:43.000What do they have to do to satisfy you to be able to get, to be allowed into the women's locker room?
00:31:48.000Not be perverts or not going in there to be a person.
00:31:54.000If all of a sudden one of these guys, you know, all of a sudden put on a dress, put on a wig, and just walked into the locker room with the full intent to watch women undress, which unfortunately is a lot of perverts.
00:33:28.000I mean, I don't want them in my locker room.
00:33:31.000They should go to the sex that is on their birth certificate, of course.
00:33:34.000And the point being is that just because you have a good costume does not mean you are the person that you seek to be.
00:33:42.000If you dress as Lawrence of Arabia, you don't become an Arab sheikh.
00:33:47.000If you dress as Julius Caesar, you're not in control of the Roman Empire.
00:33:50.000Your costume does not dictate your reality.
00:33:53.000And just because someone might look more masculine than I am, fine, whatever, because they have testosterone being pumped through them at every time, artificially, that doesn't make them a man.
00:34:02.000But again, so why is it that we want to legislate things?
00:34:05.000Well, we have a fundamental thing that women should be protected.
00:34:07.000I know that's like a crazy concept for the trans lobby, but women should be protected from having to change next to men, having to look at male penises without their permission.
00:34:16.000They should not have to have perverts come into their locker room.
00:34:19.000They should not have their trophies stolen from them.
00:34:21.000They should not have their rewards stolen from them, all as an outgrowth of the transgender movement.
00:34:29.000I think there are a lot of contradictions in your argument.
00:34:32.000I think like if you think about, for instance, how there are plenty of grown male pedophiles, male gay pedophiles, you're allowing them, you don't know their, every man's intent when they're walking into the bathroom with your son.
00:34:49.000There are plenty of stories of sexual assault against men in male bathrooms by other men.
00:34:54.000So how are you avoiding more perversion by like you don't know the intent of anyone who walks into a bathroom or whatever?
00:35:18.000I personally, because of just how I am, I'm not usually comfortable seeing anyone fully undress in front of me.
00:35:25.000I don't spend a lot of time in locker rooms.
00:35:28.000Okay, but if all it but does it not make I feel safe with their presence and if they are not being weird and staring at other women while they are undressing and doing that, then no, I don't give a crap if they have a penis and I have to say that.
00:35:44.000And I'm just curious, do the women in this audience, are you okay undressing around biological women?
00:35:51.000And again, that's where we are heading.
00:35:52.000We are heading towards this inevitable conclusion where any pervert for any reason can walk into a female-only space and they can be, they can look at you guys when you undress.
00:36:02.000This is happening in Deerfield High School right now in the suburbs of Chicago.
00:36:06.000There is a trans woman, so a biological man, who is granted access into the seventh grade locker room.
00:36:13.000He masturbates in front of all the women.
00:36:43.000I have hundreds in Wabatosa, Wisconsin, or in Morristown, New Jersey.
00:36:47.000I have hundreds in Richmond, Virginia, in Loudoun County, Virginia, in Boca Raton, Florida.
00:36:52.000We have hundreds of these examples pouring in where all of a sudden when we start to break down the sex differences of how we are made and how we are designed, all of a sudden, the idea of protecting women goes out the window.
00:37:04.000And I find it so ironic to bring it full circle, not with you.
00:37:07.000Like, hey, Charlie, don't you care about protecting women with the rape statistics?
00:37:10.000I'm like the greatest defender of women out there when I don't think.
00:37:13.000I'm the greatest defender of women out there.
00:37:15.000Yes, far so more than anyone on the left, where they're okay with over 890 medals and trophies that were stolen from women that biological men got under the transgender guys, that they remain silent when these creeps go into these locker rooms next to these women, like, oh, well, that's transgender progress.
00:37:32.000And so I don't even know what to say at some point.
00:37:35.000Well, there's actually no way to continue the conversation because there's the baseline misunderstanding that all transgender people are perverts.
00:37:50.000But even if they are not perverted, even if they're not perverts, like female comfort and safety is a beautiful thing that we believe in the biblical Western construct that women must be protected.
00:38:01.000We as men primarily go to war and we fight to protect women.
00:38:05.000That is how the West was won and the West continues to advance.
00:38:08.000And if we're not going to say like this is a special female space away from the potentiality of perversion, then we're not doing our job of men as protecting them.
00:38:17.000And it's just amazing how many women like yourself are like, come on in, men, no problem.
00:38:22.000As long as you dress like us, I'm perfectly fine.
00:38:25.000And that is the, that is the ultimate, like, that is the pinnacle of degenerative feminism.
00:38:30.000Once again, there is no way to continue the conversation when you have the belief that there are so many.
00:39:44.000Because now they all become like trans men and we lose them, where tomboy girls used to go through a little masculine phase when they're 14 15, and then they grew out of it.
00:39:52.000Praise god, because you went through puberty.
00:39:54.000You have different cycles and ups and downs and valleys and troughs and peaks and pinnacles, and so you go up and down throughout puberty and you shouldn't intercept somebody at puberty when they all of a sudden are feeling something that is not biologically correct.