The Charlie Kirk Show - Debunking the Left's Lie of a Secular American Founding—LIVE From Dream City Church

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, happy Sunday.

00:00:01.000 This episode is very important.

00:00:02.000 It was a live speech I gave at Dream City Church, the Barnetts Church in Phoenix, Arizona.

00:00:06.000 If you guys are looking for a church in Arizona, I encourage you to go there.

00:00:09.000 I take questions from the audience, and in fact, we talk about some upcoming school board things that need to be fixed in Arizona.

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00:00:30.000 Buckle up, everybody.

00:00:31.000 Here we go.

00:00:32.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:00:34.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

00:00:36.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:00:40.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:00:43.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:00:44.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:00:45.000 His spirit, his love of this country.

00:00:47.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

00:00:53.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

00:01:02.000 That's why we are here.

00:01:05.000 Thank you.

00:01:06.000 Wow.

00:01:08.000 Thank you guys.

00:01:10.000 Thank you.

00:01:13.000 So, Pastor Luke and Tommy and to the Dream City staff and everyone here, I want to thank you guys for this act of boldness for doing this tonight.

00:01:23.000 And so, it is so necessary.

00:01:27.000 And before I go any further, this is not the most important thing I'm doing this week.

00:01:33.000 On Saturday, Eric and I are getting married, which is very exciting.

00:01:41.000 So, no matter how good it goes tonight, there will be something more important that happens this week.

00:01:47.000 But, Luke, let it be known that two great things are started in this week in 2021 in May in Phoenix, Arizona.

00:01:58.000 I also want to thank some other people here tonight.

00:02:01.000 I want to thank my pastor, Rob McCoy, who came in from Thousand Oaks, California, who has just been amazing to me in so many different ways.

00:02:11.000 I first met Rob boy, it was about a year and a half, two years ago, and he was mayor of Thousand Oaks, California during the baseline shooting.

00:02:19.000 You might remember, where about I remember nine people lost their lives to a shooter, and he was a pastor who ran for local government.

00:02:27.000 And the city needed a pastor at that time as mayor.

00:02:31.000 And when I met him, I said, Wait a second, you mean that as a pastor, you're able to run for local office?

00:02:36.000 And we got to talking, and I realized growing up in a Bible-believing church, how Christians have not leaned into their proper role in the public square in our country.

00:02:46.000 I've spoken over 70 churches in the last year.

00:02:50.000 70.

00:02:51.000 I spoke from Seattle, which I just came from, and that was an interesting event, to Steve Smotherman's church in Albuquerque, New Mexico.

00:02:59.000 You got a great church, by the way.

00:03:02.000 And I realized that if the church does not rise up at this moment, if the church does not take its proper role, then the country and the republic will be gone as we know it.

00:03:15.000 And so, as I spoke at so many of these different churches, I realized that when I was speaking to the body of Christ, they weren't just listening to what I was saying.

00:03:24.000 In this wonderful church, we had a great time a couple weeks ago.

00:03:28.000 They were waiting for me to tell them what to do.

00:03:31.000 You know, Christians in America, we're action-oriented, whether it be parking cars or doing amazing things in Colorado City.

00:03:39.000 It's not in our DNA to sit idly by when something bad is happening.

00:03:45.000 It's not, we don't need convincing.

00:03:47.000 Once we see a problem, we want to be part of the solution.

00:03:51.000 And so, I pitched this idea to the Barnetts, and Rob and I were talking about it, and Steve and I have been talking about it.

00:03:56.000 What if the churches of this country and pastors started to take a more public stance?

00:04:03.000 So this, I really was inspired by a couple verses.

00:04:07.000 And it's an answer to a question that some people have, which is why should Christians care about government?

00:04:13.000 Why should Christians care about the public square?

00:04:15.000 We kind of hear that every so often, right?

00:04:18.000 Let that happen itself, and we're just going to kind of worry about the church.

00:04:22.000 They always say separation of church and state, which is not in the U.S. Constitution.

00:04:28.000 But I think it's a single letter that Thomas Jefferson wrote to the Danbury Baptist Convention.

00:04:33.000 But I think if this last year taught us anything, it's time to try to keep the state out of the church.

00:04:39.000 After they told the church that it's not essential, after they came into our ability to worship.

00:04:45.000 In Jeremiah 29, 7, it says, seek the peace and prosperity of the city to which I have carried you into exile.

00:04:53.000 Pray to the Lord for it, because if the city prospers, you will also prosper.

00:04:59.000 We are commanded to care about the city of which we are in.

00:05:02.000 So I'm going to start really broad here tonight.

00:05:05.000 I'm going to talk about why Christians need to care about what's happening around you.

00:05:10.000 And then I'm going to get really specific.

00:05:13.000 By really specific, I'm going to read you curriculum that your children are learning from here in Arizona.

00:05:20.000 I'm going to get even more specific.

00:05:22.000 I'm going to tell you the school board that approved it.

00:05:24.000 I'm going to get even more specific.

00:05:25.000 I'm going to tell you when that school board is meeting in the next couple weeks if you find this curriculum to be somewhat disagreeable.

00:05:32.000 Because, and it's always important to remember, everything we do as Christians needs to be full of grace, gentle, kind, but also 100% truth.

00:05:42.000 And if we see something in our local community, we should do something about that.

00:05:47.000 So why should we care about the world around us?

00:05:51.000 Well, in Proverbs 29, 2, it says, when the righteous increase, the people rejoice, but when the wicked rule, the people groan.

00:05:58.000 You've been probably doing a lot of groaning recently, right?

00:06:02.000 You've been doing a lot of, man, I wish they weren't doing that.

00:06:06.000 That doesn't reflect my values.

00:06:08.000 You know, I came from Illinois, and it's a good place to be from, by the way.

00:06:15.000 In Illinois, we have term limits.

00:06:16.000 It's one term in office, one term in jail.

00:06:19.000 A little different than most states.

00:06:21.000 And I came here to Arizona seeking freedom.

00:06:25.000 And now I'm looking around seeing the same sort of decisions being made.

00:06:29.000 And by the way, I'm not even talking politically.

00:06:31.000 I'm talking the moral, cultural issues of the day that then result into political decisions.

00:06:37.000 Because in Illinois, I saw a church that decided they were not going to get in the public square.

00:06:42.000 And Illinois has one of the largest churches in America.

00:06:46.000 You guys all know it.

00:06:47.000 But they decided always they were not going to get involved in any sort of moral or cultural issues.

00:06:53.000 And I think that was a mistake.

00:06:54.000 So this is actually an inflection point here in Arizona.

00:06:57.000 So as we're broadcasting this to the entire nation, I also want to make sure I talk to the people in this room, because if we don't care about the local issues, the issues where we can look people eye to eye on, and we just always act as if the most important thing is Washington, D.C., we're fooling ourselves.

00:07:12.000 Because it's actually easier to hope that everything's going to be solved than Air Force One.

00:07:18.000 But the tougher fights, the ones that happen really locally.

00:07:21.000 So how about three examples of how Christians have influenced our world that we're living in right now for good?

00:07:27.000 So this is the basic reason why we should care about government, is that we should always try to impact everything for God's purpose.

00:07:33.000 Music, arts, entertainment, business, finance, and yes, even government and civic life.

00:07:39.000 Well, how about the founding of our country?

00:07:42.000 The founding of this beautiful country.

00:07:43.000 Is it just like any other country?

00:07:45.000 Well, John Jay, the first Supreme Court Justice of the United States, says, quote, Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers.

00:07:54.000 And it is the duty as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.

00:08:02.000 John Jay, first Supreme Court Justice of the United States.

00:08:05.000 How about a signer of the Declaration of Independence?

00:08:09.000 One of the most amazing quotes, which is right here, Benjamin Rush, signer of the Declaration from Pennsylvania, who was speaking out against slavery, saying domestic slavery is repugnant to the principles of Christianity.

00:08:21.000 It is a rebellion against the authority of a common father.

00:08:25.000 It is a practical denial of the extent and efficacy of the death of a common savior.

00:08:31.000 It is a usurpation of the prerogative of the great sovereign of the universe who has solemnly claimed an exclusive property in the souls of men.

00:08:39.000 You see, this country was founded by people that were prayerful, spirit-filled, Bible-believing Christians that took an act of faith.

00:08:47.000 You see, why do we call the founders pilgrims?

00:08:51.000 They weren't going to Israel.

00:08:53.000 Usually you call people pilgrims when they're going to the Holy Land.

00:08:56.000 They were going to a barren and desolate land.

00:08:59.000 And they signed a document called the Mayflower Compact.

00:09:01.000 It's only about two paragraphs long.

00:09:03.000 They actually signed it while they were still at sea.

00:09:05.000 And they signed it as a promise amongst each other.

00:09:07.000 It's one of the most important documents ever written.

00:09:10.000 It was one of the first documents where they said, hey, when we hit the shores, there's going to be nothing waiting there.

00:09:14.000 We don't know if we're going to get killed or die.

00:09:17.000 We're going to have to figure out how to govern ourselves.

00:09:17.000 We know this.

00:09:20.000 And the most important thing when we try to govern ourselves is not King George, but it's going to be God.

00:09:24.000 That's basically what that document said.

00:09:26.000 And if you don't like it, go try to figure it out yourselves.

00:09:28.000 That's a massive step forward.

00:09:31.000 The founding of this country, of the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence, the great majority, and some historians believe all, identified themselves as Christians.

00:09:41.000 And all but one were Protestants.

00:09:43.000 Four were either present or former ministers, and a number of the signers were sons of the clergy.

00:09:48.000 At least half of them studied divinity at various universities, and the denominations were between Episcopalian, Anglican, and mainstream Protestantism.

00:09:58.000 John Adams, the second American president, said, quote, I have examined all religions, and the result is that the Bible is the greatest book ever to exist in the history of the world.

00:10:12.000 What I'm getting at here is that this country was not founded by deists.

00:10:16.000 It was not a mistake of the Enlightenment.

00:10:19.000 In fact, it was something that happened right before it, which is what we call the First Great Awakening.

00:10:24.000 The First Great Awakening were activist pastors known as the Black Robe Regiment standing up in churches and open-air forums across America, contesting for the welfare of the city which they are in.

00:10:35.000 Jonathan Edwards, sinners in the hands of an angry God, telling people to repent and to find a new connection with their ultimate purpose, the sovereign and the almighty God.

00:10:45.000 Once people started to think about this, they started to ask the question: well, if we are free in Christ, why are we not free in this government we have with King George?

00:10:54.000 You see, it was Christians and pastors that even started this line of thinking.

00:10:59.000 And it's only going to be Christians and pastors that can get us back to that.

00:11:03.000 How about abolishing slavery?

00:11:05.000 Now, first of all, let me first say, America was not founded on slavery.

00:11:09.000 And one of the things we're going to be doing here at Freedom Square, we're going to have a chance to do some questions.

00:11:13.000 We're going to have a Socratic element of this, which you don't find too often in colleges, universities, and high schools anymore.

00:11:19.000 We're going to get deep into the history.

00:11:22.000 I believe that one of the main issues of why we're not seeing enough action is that people do not know prior courageous action that preceded them.

00:11:31.000 And one of the big lies that happens in our country is that America was founded on slavery.

00:11:37.000 The first draft of the United States, the Declaration of our Country by Thomas Jefferson, in his original handwriting, was him rejecting and blaming King George for an unspeakable sin of slavery.

00:11:51.000 Thomas Jefferson wrote in the first draft of the Declaration of Independence, being a slave owner himself, and by the way, none of us ever are hypocrites, right?

00:11:58.000 None of us ever have sinned, and we never have done anything wrong, right?

00:12:01.000 We're all perfect.

00:12:03.000 We try to judge the founding fathers.

00:12:04.000 There's actually a really good verse for that.

00:12:07.000 Thomas Jefferson said, King George has waged a cruel war against human nature itself, violating its most sacred rights of liberty and life in the persons of distant people who never offended him, captivating and carrying them into slavery in another hemisphere or to incur miserable death in the transportation there within.

00:12:26.000 Thomas Jefferson was blaming King George, saying there's something wrong that's happening here.

00:12:31.000 Thomas Jefferson, being the third American president, signed a moratorium saying the slave trade in the United States is over.

00:12:37.000 In fact, how about the first new point, the new part of land in America, the Northwest Territories?

00:12:43.000 No, it wasn't Seattle or Idaho.

00:12:45.000 It was Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Illinois, and Michigan.

00:12:47.000 That was considered to be the Northwest back then.

00:12:50.000 That was the first new land.

00:12:52.000 So when you go into new land, that should be a reflection of your values.

00:12:56.000 That's a pretty, when you go into a new house, you're saying, I'm going to start a new life.

00:12:59.000 This is my value system, right?

00:13:01.000 Not what came before, but I'm going to put what I believe into what is new.

00:13:06.000 Well, the Northwest Territories, which was signed in the law, one of the first acts of Congress ever by President George Washington, they had a decision to make.

00:13:13.000 We got all this territory.

00:13:14.000 You could grow crops, you can travel, it's fertile land.

00:13:19.000 Should it be slave or free?

00:13:21.000 Well, the Northwest Territories, the first new sovereign part of land that we have documented history of on our planet, was free.

00:13:29.000 It was a free land.

00:13:31.000 It was not a slave land.

00:13:32.000 And that changed the trajectory of our nation where it said, hey, slavery ends at the Ohio River.

00:13:38.000 That the new territories in America were going to be free territories.

00:13:41.000 Now, mind you, of course, the founding fathers wrestled with abolishing slavery in the American South.

00:13:46.000 But that was actually a minority opinion.

00:13:48.000 It was becoming less popular until who I consider to be the great villain of American history, someone you should all be very familiar with, John C. Calhoun, who is vice president to Andrew Jackson and to John Quincy Adams.

00:14:00.000 He came up with a bad idea, an evil idea, where he misrepresented the text of the Bible, which we've never seen happen ever before, right?

00:14:08.000 It warns us about this in 1 Peter, by the way, to justify slavery in a very contorted and pernicious and evil way through the Bible.

00:14:18.000 It resulted in the second thing that Christians influenced our world for good, which is the abolition of slavery in our country.

00:14:26.000 Abraham Lincoln, who some people said he wasn't a Christian, but he famously said he only read two things, and that's where he got his morals from.

00:14:32.000 He read the Bible every night, he read Shakespeare every month, and that's where he got his worldview from.

00:14:38.000 And Abraham Lincoln famously said, if slavery is not wrong, nothing is wrong.

00:14:44.000 In fact, the idea that we were able to abolish slavery in our country is a very, very consequential and big deal.

00:14:53.000 But who was it that inspired William Wilberforce?

00:14:56.000 What was it, I should say?

00:14:57.000 It was the teachings and the writings of the scriptures.

00:15:00.000 In fact, the Supreme Court of Mississippi ruled in 1818: slavery is condemned by reason and the laws of nature.

00:15:09.000 It exists and can only exist through municipal regulations.

00:15:13.000 And in no matter of doubt, courts must learn to rule in favor of life and liberty.

00:15:21.000 And so as we look at American history, it's always been the church and pastors that have decided to step up on big public forums and say, this is right and this is wrong.

00:15:33.000 It is Christians that have decided to rise up and say, I'm not just going to be a spectator.

00:15:38.000 I'm going to get into the game.

00:15:39.000 And then it comes to the third example that I want to explore with you, which is something that I mentioned here before when I spoke at, which is why didn't communism work here?

00:15:51.000 Now, I don't make it a habit to read a lot in my speeches.

00:15:53.000 You guys know that.

00:15:54.000 But I wanted to make sure I was very precise in why we are doing this project together and what we're going to try to do here in the state of Arizona.

00:16:04.000 I'm going to read this, which is a sermon given by a pastor.

00:16:08.000 If a pastor gave this sermon today in most churches, he would be run out.

00:16:15.000 And I want you to guess who it is and no saying it out loud.

00:16:18.000 This was given in the 1950s.

00:16:20.000 The communist revolution that was born in the hearts of Marx and Engels in the middle of the 19th century is not going to give up or retreat.

00:16:28.000 No amount of words at the United Nations or peace conferences in the Far East is going to change the minds of communism.

00:16:33.000 It is here to stay.

00:16:34.000 It is a battle to the death.

00:16:36.000 Either communism must die or Christianity must die.

00:16:40.000 Has it ever occurred to you that the devil is a religious leader and millions are worshiping at a shrine today?

00:16:45.000 The name of this present-day religion is communism.

00:16:48.000 The devil is their God and Marx is their prophet.

00:16:50.000 Lenin is their saint and Malinkov their high priest, or Alexandria Kaiser-Cortez, denying their faith and all ideologies.

00:17:00.000 Except their religion of revolution.

00:17:02.000 These diabolically inspired men seek in devious and various ways to convert a peaceful world to the doctrine of death and destruction.

00:17:10.000 So fanatical and ruthless are these disciples of Lucifer that in 30 years they have slaughtered millions of innocent people and stood prepared with poised weapons to kill millions in an all-out effort to spread their doctrines to the ends of the earth.

00:17:24.000 What is so subtle about the creed of communism?

00:17:27.000 What sort of ideology does capture the loyalty of countless millions of around the world?

00:17:32.000 Politically, a communist is one who believes the state is supreme and the individual exists only for the welfare of governments.

00:17:39.000 Economically, a communist believes in the replacement of private property in the land and capital by common ownership.

00:17:45.000 Socially, a communist does not believe in marriage as an institution of God, but only as a merely biological arrangement to have children and heirs to the communist state.

00:17:54.000 Ethically, the communist is a believer, a devotee to the devotee to the big lie.

00:17:59.000 Theologically, the communist is an atheist, a despoiler of churches and a murderer of Christians.

00:18:06.000 A war of ideologies is being waged throughout the world and here in America.

00:18:12.000 A war of the secular against the spiritual.

00:18:15.000 The actual battle in the areas of combat are only material manifestations of the larger battle that rages in the hearts of men throughout the earth.

00:18:23.000 Will it be truth or a lie that wins?

00:18:26.000 Will we be motivated by materialistic philosophy or spiritual power?

00:18:30.000 Will we be led by the Jehovah God or duped by Satan?

00:18:33.000 The battle lines are clearly drawn.

00:18:35.000 Billy Graham, 1954.

00:18:40.000 If Billy Graham could speak out on the moral issues and call it what it is, every pastor in the country can speak out on the moral issues of what's going on in America today.

00:18:56.000 So I want to share a couple of the verses and then I want to start to get more and more specific because this is going to be a forum and we're going to have a chance for you to talk about what's happening in the community around you.

00:19:06.000 Everything we want you to be thinking about is the why and then the how.

00:19:10.000 Why should I do this and then how do I get it done?

00:19:14.000 Because we as Christians, we do not sit idly by when a great injustice is occurring.

00:19:20.000 We should never be indifferent to the suffering of others.

00:19:24.000 We as Christians will never allow lies to govern our society.

00:19:24.000 Ever.

00:19:29.000 Remember, Jesus did not just speak truth.

00:19:32.000 He was truth.

00:19:34.000 He was the embodiment of truth.

00:19:36.000 And we as Christians must speak right and wrong.

00:19:39.000 We as Christians must be leaders, not complainers.

00:19:44.000 It's not enough just to watch Fox News, Tucker Carlson, and Buy the Pillow, and hope that's going to save Western civilization.

00:19:54.000 Promo code Kirk, by the way, for all of you watching at home.

00:20:00.000 It's time to get into the arena.

00:20:02.000 How about some scriptures here?

00:20:04.000 You are the light of the world.

00:20:06.000 The town cannot be built on a hill, cannot be hidden.

00:20:08.000 We have the truth, everybody.

00:20:10.000 It's time for us to proclaim it in the area and the city of which we are in.

00:20:16.000 And my favorite new verse, right, Steve?

00:20:18.000 My new favorite verse.

00:20:20.000 And now we're going to get more and more specific.

00:20:24.000 Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.

00:20:30.000 Ephesians 5:11.

00:20:31.000 That's kind of my daily job, by the way.

00:20:33.000 Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.

00:20:37.000 Okay, let's start exposing them.

00:20:39.000 I'm telling you right now, Arizona is changing.

00:20:42.000 It's not changing for the better.

00:20:44.000 And we're all groaning because the Bible says we will groan.

00:20:47.000 But when the ricket rule, the wicked rule, the people groan.

00:20:51.000 We have sat idly by for too long, everybody.

00:20:54.000 And I also want to speak to the people that are here tonight that are not Christians.

00:20:57.000 Welcome, by the way.

00:21:00.000 And this has to be all of us working together.

00:21:04.000 And I want to just say for a moment the vision that we have for Turning Point Faith.

00:21:08.000 And Rob and I are going to be working on this and pastors across the country.

00:21:11.000 We are a secular 501c3 organization.

00:21:13.000 We have people of all different sorts of faith backgrounds and beliefs.

00:21:17.000 You guys know what I believe and why I believe it.

00:21:19.000 But if we are serious about taking back this constitutional republic, which is a pluralistic society, we must employ the Galatians 3 model, which is that the law holds you in place until faith comes.

00:21:32.000 And so we are not going to bring the church into turning point.

00:21:35.000 We're going to try to bring the successful model of what we've done at Turning Point USA into churches and places of worship and religious institutions across the country.

00:21:43.000 And here's why.

00:21:44.000 When I see our Turning Point USA staff members who are incredible, or our Turning Point USA chapter leaders that are under attack every single day on these campuses, I say, man, if this 16-year-old can stand for truth at their high school campus, pastors can also stand for truth in their churches.

00:22:06.000 How many of you are familiar in any way, shape, or form with the term critical race theory?

00:22:12.000 Anyone?

00:22:13.000 Good amount of hands, but still a fair amount of hands that did not raise.

00:22:18.000 If I would have said that a year ago, probably five hands would have gone up.

00:22:22.000 So it's starting to get more out there.

00:22:25.000 This is no joke.

00:22:27.000 This is civilization-ending stuff.

00:22:29.000 And you guys know I don't do hyperbole.

00:22:33.000 This is the type of ideology that can destroy the ties that bind us together.

00:22:37.000 It is anti-biblical.

00:22:39.000 So what does the Bible have to say about race?

00:22:42.000 Let's start about what we believe.

00:22:44.000 God shows no partiality, but in every nation, anyone who fears him does what is right and acceptable to him.

00:22:51.000 Acts 10:34.

00:22:53.000 Galatians 3:28.

00:22:55.000 There is neither Jew nor Greek.

00:22:57.000 There is neither slave nor free.

00:22:58.000 There is no male and female.

00:22:59.000 You are all one in Christ Jesus.

00:23:02.000 Galatians 3.28.

00:23:06.000 Acts 17, 26.

00:23:07.000 And he made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth.

00:23:14.000 We look at the spirit and the soul, the character and the actions of people, not the skin color or the melanin content.

00:23:21.000 But what if I told you that the opposite is being taught in schools across the country and yes, in schools here in Arizona?

00:23:28.000 So let me tell you what critical race theory is.

00:23:30.000 Critical race theory is growing at a rapid pace across our country.

00:23:37.000 It is now, it is harder to find schools that aren't doing it than schools that are.

00:23:42.000 And they're camouflaging and disguising it, but they're starting to say the private part out loud.

00:23:47.000 Here's what it is: it started in the 1960s.

00:23:49.000 And if any of you are interested, you should read a book by James Lindsay called Cynical Theories.

00:23:54.000 It's a terrific book on this topic.

00:23:56.000 It's a belief that is an extension of the Marxist view of the world.

00:24:00.000 We already heard Billy Graham's views on Marxism.

00:24:03.000 That everything in life is a view of the oppressed and the oppressor.

00:24:07.000 That everything in life is the bourgeoisie versus the proletariat.

00:24:11.000 It's the people in charge and the people that aren't in charge.

00:24:14.000 But critical race theory takes it even further.

00:24:17.000 Critical race theory believes that white people by definition are the oppressors and that black people or people of color are the oppressed.

00:24:26.000 There is no escaping this paradigm.

00:24:28.000 And the only way to make right for any wrong that they pinpoint is now to discriminate against the discriminators.

00:24:37.000 Is now more discrimination against any sort of group is now the solution.

00:24:42.000 So this is championed by someone by the name of Ibram X. Kendi.

00:24:46.000 Anyone know that name?

00:24:48.000 Well, you should get to know that name because they're having more influence on the education of your children than any other person.

00:24:54.000 He's kind of the scholar, if you will, behind critical race theory.

00:24:58.000 He has this philosophy called anti-racism.

00:25:01.000 Has anyone heard that term recently?

00:25:04.000 He believes that the world should be separated into racists and anti-racists.

00:25:09.000 Here are some of his ideas.

00:25:11.000 He believes that standardized tests are, quote, the most effective racist weapon ever devised to objectively degrade black minds and legally exclude their bodies.

00:25:20.000 Capitalism, he says that is a conjoined twin of racism.

00:25:25.000 He believes that a race-neutral country or a racially blind country is, quote, the most threatening racist movement in the country.

00:25:34.000 And his solution, in his own words, are quote: the only remedy to racist discrimination is anti-racist discrimination.

00:25:41.000 The only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination.

00:25:46.000 The only remedy to present discrimination is future discrimination.

00:25:53.000 Now, if you think you're reading something from Nathan Bedford Forrest from the KKK of the Deep South, it's awfully similar.

00:26:01.000 You see, I grew up in the suburbs of Chicago, 53% English as a second language high school with people of different races and backgrounds.

00:26:12.000 I was always taught to de-emphasize race, and it worked.

00:26:15.000 We cared about character and values, not on skin color, not on these ridiculously arbitrary tribal lines that are being drawn.

00:26:23.000 And where we are headed right now is a collision course that will tear our constitutional republic apart.

00:26:29.000 So a lot of people say we got to get involved.

00:26:31.000 We got to do something.

00:26:33.000 Well, let's read Litchfield Elementary School District's press release.

00:26:37.000 Anyone know where Litchfield Elementary School is?

00:26:41.000 It's in Litchfield Park, Arizona, 272 East Sagebrush.

00:26:44.000 They don't like it when you read this stuff, by the way.

00:26:47.000 Now, let's make sure what we're doing is biblical, right?

00:26:50.000 Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.

00:26:53.000 Got it.

00:26:54.000 Okay, what we're doing is biblical.

00:27:02.000 They wrote this Litchfield Elementary School number 17.

00:27:05.000 This is elementary school.

00:27:09.000 They have an equity statement.

00:27:13.000 Some of it is rather nonspecific.

00:27:16.000 So you got to dig, right?

00:27:17.000 Because they don't think people actually read to the end of these things.

00:27:20.000 And then you actually read, you're like, oh, wow.

00:27:23.000 Thank you for admitting.

00:27:25.000 We subscribe to the author Ibram X. Kendi's definition of racism.

00:27:30.000 There is no in-between of safe space and not racist.

00:27:34.000 So then I decided to have our team: hey, can you actually go find their work toolkit?

00:27:40.000 Like, what are our kids, what are our seven-year-olds in Arizona actually learning?

00:27:44.000 Now, I'm doing this intentionally because I think those of us that are in the public space, we get too broad too much.

00:27:52.000 They're teaching this, they're all this, this is bad, and then we move on.

00:27:55.000 It's time we start getting very specific.

00:27:58.000 Let me show you what it says.

00:28:02.000 They have discipline goals, which means to reduce disproportional discipline for black students, to reduce disproportionality and achievement for black and Hispanic students, and then to train all students and teachers in Ibram X. Kendi anti-racist teaching.

00:28:21.000 I already told you what he believes, which is segregation is the solution.

00:28:26.000 It goes through multiple pages.

00:28:27.000 You guys can check it yourself, from the superintendent to the administration council.

00:28:32.000 Now, thankfully, some parents are starting to rise up against this.

00:28:36.000 In fact, on May 11th at 5 p.m. at the Litchfield Elementary School District, if anyone lives in the general area, I think it would be a good idea if you guys employ Ephesians 5:11 and say, segregation will have no place in Arizona as long as I have breath in my lungs.

00:29:00.000 And it keeps on going, and we're going to post this all on our website.

00:29:03.000 The Diverse Curriculum Committee to have fine arts, audio, visual, language, and math, and science, and writing, and technology around this curriculum.

00:29:12.000 And it continues on.

00:29:14.000 You guys can read the equity statement yourself, but now the people that will be held responsible for this are the teachers, the administrators, and the superintendent.

00:29:22.000 This is the school board passing this.

00:29:25.000 They're no longer doing this in the shadows.

00:29:27.000 This is no longer a secret thing.

00:29:29.000 It's all public.

00:29:30.000 It's all out there.

00:29:32.000 And so it's not just in Litchfield, by the way.

00:29:35.000 The Arizona Department of Education has now issued a new equity toolkit for all educators to be able to lend from in the state of Arizona.

00:29:46.000 Now, let's talk about this idea of equity.

00:29:49.000 What a linguistic act of treachery that word is, isn't it?

00:29:54.000 Because who could be against equity?

00:29:55.000 Let's be very clear what equality is and then what equity is.

00:30:00.000 Equality can be divided into two different categories: equality of rights, equality of opportunity.

00:30:08.000 But equity is something very different.

00:30:10.000 So equality of rights, meaning that the law should be blind.

00:30:14.000 That's why in the ideal, we have the picture of Lady Liberty with a blind over her eyes.

00:30:20.000 That no matter who you go in front of a judge, you will be treated under the same constitutional rights.

00:30:25.000 That comes from the biblical idea, by the way, of non-preferential treatment in front of the law.

00:30:31.000 Most countries are stunned and they're confused by how America was able to make this work.

00:30:37.000 It's because the Bible inspired the writers and the framers of the U.S. Constitution.

00:30:42.000 That's why a secular humanist type approach would not be able to get to this.

00:30:47.000 Then there's equality of opportunity.

00:30:49.000 This is why we should champion school choice.

00:30:51.000 This is why we should talk about rebuilding the American family, which is the ultimate way to be able to curb poverty and instill morals in young children.

00:31:00.000 Equality of opportunity.

00:31:01.000 But then there's this really tricky word, equity.

00:31:05.000 Boy, is equity a dangerous word.

00:31:07.000 Equity means that we will redistribute the outcome based solely on things you can't change.

00:31:17.000 I'm going to say that again.

00:31:18.000 We are going to redistribute the outcome based on things you can't change, like skin color.

00:31:22.000 Or let's just have Ibram X. Kendi describe it for us, who happens to be a scholar on this sort of stuff, where he says, discrimination now, no, that's right, the only remedy to present discrimination is future discrimination.

00:31:37.000 The defining question is whether the discrimination is creating equity or inequity.

00:31:41.000 He tells you right now: discrimination is the way to do this.

00:31:45.000 If discrimination is creating equity, then it is good and therefore anti-racist.

00:31:52.000 If the discrimination is creating inequity, then it is racist.

00:31:57.000 And so he wants to create a new department of anti-racism in the federal government that would be comprised of formally trade experts on racism and no political appointees.

00:32:09.000 And it goes on from there.

00:32:11.000 So at the Arizona Department of Education, they now have a new equity toolkit where if you are even in nursery school, they are now teaching three-month-old babies and anyone involved that they are racist.

00:32:26.000 The Arizona Department of Education has created an equity toolkit designed to teach critical race theory to children, offering a number of recommended readings on the topic.

00:32:35.000 So let me tell you deeper into critical race theory what they believe.

00:32:38.000 They do not believe in individuals.

00:32:40.000 They do not believe that you are made in the image of God.

00:32:42.000 They don't.

00:32:43.000 They believe you're part of your tribal group.

00:32:45.000 That's it.

00:32:46.000 They believe you're part of who you look like.

00:32:48.000 They don't believe that you are fearfully and wonderfully made, that you need to come in a connection with your creator.

00:32:52.000 They believe you're nothing more than who you look like.

00:32:56.000 They don't believe in math and science.

00:32:58.000 They don't.

00:32:59.000 They are outspoken critics of this idea of Newtonian physics.

00:33:03.000 They think math and science are created simply and solely to advance and protect a white supremacist construct.

00:33:10.000 They don't believe in dialogue.

00:33:13.000 They don't believe in speech.

00:33:14.000 Who is the greatest example of peaceful dialogue?

00:33:18.000 Jesus Christ went around talking to people, asking questions, speaking truth as he was truth.

00:33:25.000 They believe dialogue and speech is a false promise towards oppression.

00:33:30.000 They also believe that racism is everywhere.

00:33:33.000 It's in the sky, it's in the stars, it's in what you buy.

00:33:37.000 And Ibram X. Kendi articulates this.

00:33:40.000 And the only solution is massive, redistributive equity.

00:33:46.000 But this is now in the Arizona Department of Education.

00:33:50.000 And it says one of the recommended readings is that as soon as children are able to speak, you must let children draw these conclusions based on what they see, which when it comes to race, which is a doctrinaire example of critical race theory in the Arizona Department of Education.

00:34:12.000 It doesn't stop there.

00:34:14.000 There's another equity event for the Arizona School Board Association.

00:34:18.000 Anyone heard of this organization before?

00:34:19.000 It's a little sneaky organization.

00:34:21.000 The Arizona School Board Organization, ASBA.

00:34:25.000 This event serves as a touchstone for diversity, equity, and inclusion enshrined in school policies statewide.

00:34:32.000 So this is for all school board members to gather to learn how they can implement this in school districts across the state of Arizona.

00:34:41.000 This is, and I quote: The ASBA says that race should be focused on more intensely.

00:34:49.000 Let me be as clear as I possibly can.

00:34:51.000 If you think race should be focused on more intensely, you're a racist.

00:35:05.000 They have all these speakers.

00:35:06.000 This actually happened on April 21st.

00:35:09.000 So now this is now going to spread into more school districts because they just brought in all the school board members and trained them up on what they need to be doing.

00:35:17.000 And then they redeployed all the school board members across the country.

00:35:20.000 Now, what's the one characteristic all school board members have in common?

00:35:24.000 They are all replaceable.

00:35:29.000 They have that all in common.

00:35:31.000 It's kind of an amazing thing: is that you can replace them.

00:35:35.000 And here's the other thing.

00:35:36.000 All of you can be school board members too.

00:35:38.000 That anyone in this room can then run for school board and start asking questions about these things.

00:35:44.000 Do you know what's the one thing these people hate?

00:35:47.000 They hate attention.

00:35:48.000 It's amazing.

00:35:49.000 They want attention all the time, except when it comes to these sorts of things.

00:35:52.000 In fact, we were just talking early in South Lake, Texas.

00:35:54.000 Let me tell you a story.

00:35:56.000 This sort of nonsense was just spreading like you wouldn't believe.

00:35:59.000 And we were just doing this on our podcast the other day.

00:36:02.000 In South Lake, Texas, they saw this very curriculum being implemented to young children.

00:36:07.000 So a bunch of parents got together and rose up, and they just had their election last Saturday.

00:36:12.000 And by a margin of 70% going for the good guys and 30% for the bad guys, they rejected critical race theory in the local schools in South Lake, Texas.

00:36:25.000 But it took us to get the message out, right?

00:36:28.000 Because what was happening, and we just talked about this earlier, is, oh my goodness, I didn't know that.

00:36:34.000 You see, they take advantage of your love of things that matter.

00:36:40.000 Let me say that again.

00:36:41.000 They take advantage of your love of things that matter.

00:36:47.000 This shouldn't be the most important thing in your life.

00:36:49.000 Your kids should matter more.

00:36:51.000 Your church should matter more.

00:36:53.000 Your business should matter more.

00:36:54.000 They know you're distracted building.

00:36:57.000 They know you're distracted creating, fruitfully multiplying.

00:37:01.000 So they're sneaky.

00:37:02.000 They know that you're not going to show up to the school board meeting.

00:37:05.000 That's why they're sometimes even violating the Open Meetings Act, which is what happened in South Lake, Texas.

00:37:10.000 That's why they don't like it when they get public comment.

00:37:13.000 That's why they don't like it when they get emails from everyone.

00:37:15.000 By the way, all of the emails for the Litchfield district are publicly available.

00:37:19.000 You guys can look it up.

00:37:20.000 You can do whatever you want.

00:37:22.000 They don't like that.

00:37:24.000 And if I were to offer one critique, if I may, of the conservative movement, we've thought way too national for way too long.

00:37:33.000 We have just been so focused on Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer.

00:37:37.000 Meanwhile, all this rubbish is just being passed every single day.

00:37:41.000 And nothing's ever really going to change until Jeremiah 29, 7 starts to happen, is to seek, which comes from that Hebrew word, badrash, demand, desire, the welfare, the shalom, the peace of the city which we are in.

00:37:55.000 And so a couple other examples, and I want to get to some questions, is that this school board, the equity event, happened on April 21st to 22nd.

00:38:08.000 Most people didn't even know this happened.

00:38:09.000 They had all these speakers, very, very radical speakers.

00:38:13.000 And so now they're going to come back and they're going to try to sneak this all throughout the state of Arizona.

00:38:17.000 They're going to try to sneak it through maybe in Scottsdale, Paradise Valley, maybe in Glendale, maybe in Mesa, maybe in Chandler.

00:38:24.000 And that's all of a sudden where this event is the equal and opposite reaction that they never would have ever thought was going to happen.

00:38:31.000 That's why we're going to keep meeting every single month.

00:38:33.000 And I'm going to be updating you guys.

00:38:34.000 You know, this is being taught here.

00:38:36.000 You know, this person right here is doing their job and this person isn't.

00:38:39.000 You see, this, I believe, is fulfilling a biblical commandment.

00:38:44.000 And I'm going to tell you why.

00:38:46.000 Rob and I have done study on this one word and I've become obsessed over it.

00:38:51.000 One of the most famous verses in the Bible is when Jesus comes up to the mouth of the Jordan River with his disciples at Caesarea, Philippi, and he asks the question, who do you say that I am?

00:39:03.000 Or who do men say that I am?

00:39:05.000 There's a dialogue that goes back and forth, and at the end of it, Christ says, on this rock, build my, we say church.

00:39:12.000 But the word is ecclesia.

00:39:16.000 In your free time, just go look up that one word.

00:39:18.000 Just type that into a search engine, hopefully not Google.

00:39:20.000 Ecclesia.

00:39:22.000 What are you going to find?

00:39:24.000 Well, it tells you what an ecclesia is.

00:39:26.000 An ecclesia was kind of a really special thing back in Jesus' time.

00:39:31.000 It was not a religious gathering.

00:39:33.000 It wasn't.

00:39:34.000 An ecclesia was a local political gathering.

00:39:38.000 Emphasis on local.

00:39:39.000 In Greek times, when anything went wrong, when they wanted to figure out how they were going to levy taxes or figure out how they were going to educate their children, they said, We're having an ecclesia tonight.

00:39:50.000 Tonight we're going to have an ecclesia.

00:39:52.000 So they have an ecclesia and they would fast and pray before they entered, and then they would vote.

00:39:57.000 And at every single ecclesia, they would have two other Greek words that were the words that they always tried to accomplish.

00:40:04.000 Call it kind of the North Star.

00:40:07.000 Isonomia and Eleutheria, which means Greek words for freedom and equality.

00:40:14.000 I wonder what country has those two words as central organizing principles.

00:40:19.000 But then we go back to the scriptures where Jesus says, on this rock, build my ecclesia.

00:40:24.000 Well, it wasn't synagogue, it wasn't temple, it was something more than that.

00:40:29.000 And so, what if I told you that for the last 20 years, if the church would have been doing what we're doing right now, just telling you what's happening, giving you some history, giving you some perspective, the organic, spontaneous action that's about to happen after tonight is exactly what the church should be facilitating: that this is our biblical commandment to make you aware that you have to take responsibility and leadership for what's happening around you.

00:40:57.000 And so, our vision, and this is what we've shared the entire time, is that we want other pastors to start to do this and have Freedom Squares and Albuquerque and Dallas and Asheville and Raleigh and Miami and Des Moines and Omaha and Milwaukee because I believe one of the reasons we're seeing what we're seeing is that good people are either unaware or they are uncertain on how to act with what's happening around them.

00:41:24.000 They say, I know something doesn't feel right and I got 35 pillows in my garage, but someone, he's the only guy that tells me what to do.

00:41:34.000 It's true.

00:41:36.000 Promo code Kirk, right, Barry?

00:41:39.000 I'm kidding.

00:41:41.000 You got to give it.

00:41:41.000 He does do the direct ask.

00:41:43.000 So I'm going to do the direct ask as bluntly as I can with the biblical commandment.

00:41:49.000 It's time to no longer be spectator Christianity.

00:41:53.000 It's time to be participant, everybody.

00:42:01.000 And so I want everyone here to fast and pray over this the next couple days.

00:42:05.000 And the next Freedom Square we're going to have is June 8th, which is, man, I'm not happy with what's happening at Litchfield.

00:42:10.000 I'm sure a lot of you are.

00:42:12.000 And they say all politics is local.

00:42:14.000 And boy, isn't that the truth.

00:42:16.000 And you think, what can I do about that?

00:42:17.000 But better yet, I can contact, I can organize, I have friends there.

00:42:21.000 I might show up at their next meeting.

00:42:23.000 But I also might be really concerned that it's coming to a school board near me.

00:42:26.000 Maybe you're going to run for mayor, which is one of the most important, least respected positions in the country, which is mayor racist.

00:42:33.000 Maybe it's city council.

00:42:34.000 Maybe you're like, I can't run for anything, but I'm going to go support and pray for and help someone that is.

00:42:39.000 I'm going to maybe, someone that's running for city council, maybe I'm going to just take care of their kids that night.

00:42:43.000 Maybe my tithe and my offering for the community, I might not have the money to be able to give as much as I want to the church, but I'm just going to look after someone running for office who's a Christian spirit-filled person.

00:42:53.000 I'm going to look after their kids one night a week so they can go knock on doors and campaign.

00:42:57.000 That's where the church all of a sudden starts to fill in the gaps of the reasons people say they don't want to run.

00:43:02.000 Top reasons people say they don't want to run.

00:43:05.000 I don't know how, believe it or not, that's the number one reason.

00:43:08.000 But look, you've seen who we have in elected office.

00:43:10.000 It's not that hard, okay?

00:43:16.000 Let me just say that that is not a great.

00:43:20.000 Number two, understandable.

00:43:22.000 I'm afraid.

00:43:23.000 They're going to attack me.

00:43:24.000 They're going to smear me.

00:43:25.000 They're going to malign me.

00:43:27.000 You're right.

00:43:30.000 It says in the scriptures very clearly, that is a guarantee of our faith.

00:43:33.000 You should be praising the Lord when you get persecuted because you're right where God wants you at that moment.

00:43:40.000 And the third reason is: I don't think anyone's going to support me.

00:43:44.000 I don't know if anyone's going to get behind me.

00:43:46.000 Well, look around you.

00:43:48.000 Here we are in the valley with well over 1,200, 1,300 people that all are sharing that same common concern, that same belief.

00:43:56.000 There's more of you than you could ever imagine.

00:43:58.000 And one of the greatest tactics the enemy has ever pulled is making you feel as if you're alone.

00:44:05.000 All the time.

00:44:05.000 Man, I don't know if anyone else shares my values.

00:44:08.000 I don't know if we have hope.

00:44:09.000 I don't know if this can ever change.

00:44:12.000 And I'm going to close with this, and then we're going to go to some questions because we're going to have some dialogue.

00:44:18.000 I'm going to tell you a tale of two different states.

00:44:22.000 I want to tell you the tale of California and the tale of Florida.

00:44:28.000 Two states that have similar populations and two completely different outcomes.

00:44:36.000 California was going to be the state of the future.

00:44:38.000 California was one of the most conservative states in the country.

00:44:43.000 California was the place where you didn't matter where you were from, it didn't matter who your parents were, you could go there and you could succeed.

00:44:52.000 California now is the laughing stock of the country.

00:44:56.000 The governor's getting recalled, of which I wish him no luck.

00:45:02.000 The state is broken.

00:45:03.000 They have lost population for the first time ever.

00:45:09.000 I know many people, part of the Calvary movement in California, of which Rob is part of, and many others, Jack Hibbs and James Cabise and Joe Pettock, and so many others.

00:45:20.000 There was an agreement amongst the major churches in California.

00:45:23.000 They said, we don't do politics.

00:45:25.000 We don't do this.

00:45:26.000 Well, ever since that moment, California has aborted more children than the entire combined population of Canada.

00:45:34.000 Authors of no-fault divorce, transgender bathrooms, and people fleeing because they know that it does not represent their values.

00:45:42.000 Now, can California be one over?

00:45:45.000 I don't know.

00:45:46.000 I'm hopeful.

00:45:48.000 But the battle for California actually really isn't today.

00:45:51.000 This is the battle to reclaim it.

00:45:53.000 The battle happened when that inflection moment happened.

00:45:57.000 It happened about 15, 20 years ago when it was legitimately a 50-50 state.

00:46:02.000 So let's talk about Florida.

00:46:04.000 Florida has more registered Democrats than Republicans.

00:46:08.000 Let me say that again.

00:46:10.000 Florida has more registered Democrats than Republicans.

00:46:13.000 But something happened in Florida a couple years ago where all of a sudden, for whatever reason, call it Midwesterners like me that were fleeing Illinois, and someone that has a lot of courage and a lot of boldness, Florida is all of a sudden now the true state of the future.

00:46:28.000 Florida has a 0% income tax rate.

00:46:31.000 Florida said that you're not allowed to teach critical race theory in any schools across the state of Florida.

00:46:36.000 Florida signed an anti-rioting bill, which says if you're traveling across state lines to Florida, you will face a minimum 10 years in prison.

00:46:43.000 Florida has open carry.

00:46:44.000 Florida has the most robust school choice programs in the country.

00:46:48.000 Florida has a booming economy.

00:46:49.000 They reopened their state against every other defiance and they opened up a lot quicker than Arizona, let me tell you.

00:46:54.000 In May of last year, with the second oldest population in the country, even older than Arizona, with the lower virus transmission rate and hospitalization rate and death rate than the 10 lockdown states on average combined.

00:47:07.000 So you have two states.

00:47:10.000 And Arizona is in the TBD category.

00:47:14.000 It's a lot of people like me that are saying, you know what, I'm going to go all in for Arizona.

00:47:19.000 I'm going to give it everything I got.

00:47:21.000 And let me be very clear.

00:47:26.000 I do not mean this politically.

00:47:28.000 I don't.

00:47:29.000 I mean this culturally, because all the politics stuff goes downstream from there.

00:47:34.000 But in Florida, I could tell you, because people rose up courageously, people of faith, people of morals.

00:47:41.000 Florida is a state where all of a sudden where you play a little bit of offense, it's like, whoa, all of a sudden there's more of us than we could ever imagine.

00:47:48.000 Where California was a state where it was like, you know what, we want to be cool and we want to be comfortable Christianity.

00:47:53.000 And now you saw the result of that.

00:47:55.000 Arizona is literally 50-50.

00:47:59.000 50% that want to see it go in the direction of California and 50% that want to see it go in the direction of Florida.

00:48:05.000 You guys might not realize this or not.

00:48:07.000 Everywhere I go, people ask me about Arizona.

00:48:09.000 Everywhere I go, they ask about the audit.

00:48:12.000 They ask about what happened.

00:48:13.000 They ask about whether this state is going to be what they once remember it.

00:48:17.000 You guys might have thought five years ago you lived in a kind of a boring political state with no big fights.

00:48:22.000 You happen to be right where God wants you to be if you care about the future of this republic.

00:48:26.000 You happen to be right in the middle of what matters most.

00:48:30.000 And so we want to grow this.

00:48:33.000 And I'm telling you right now, I'm going to give it everything I can because this can be done, everybody.

00:48:37.000 Bold, dramatic type action, where all of a sudden we're sunset in the income tax, where we're saying no critical race theory in our schools, where we are building up churches and people of faith.

00:48:51.000 That's the sort of state that I know the values of Arizona deep down hold.

00:48:54.000 The only thing that's missing is action.

00:48:57.000 And so as we do this month after month, you guys can circle it on your calendar.

00:49:01.000 Next one will be June 8th, which is that Tuesday.

00:49:04.000 And I want you to bring more friends.

00:49:06.000 I want to fill this thing up eventually.

00:49:08.000 And we're going to pack this up with new and exciting speakers.

00:49:11.000 You know, we're going to have different teachings.

00:49:12.000 And we're always going to have the teaching be adjusted to whatever's happening in the news cycle.

00:49:17.000 What does the Bible say about immigration?

00:49:20.000 What does the Bible say about race?

00:49:21.000 And then we're going to get very specific.

00:49:23.000 We're going to go through the marching orders of just not the big stuff, but then the stuff that you can actually do.

00:49:28.000 And look, I'm telling you, everybody, if we act, we are going to make Arizona look like Florida and say, do not California my Arizona.

00:49:38.000 Let's do some questions, everybody, and God bless you guys.

00:49:43.000 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you guys.

00:50:06.000 All right, let's get to some questions.

00:50:07.000 And I'm going to get to as many as possible.

00:50:09.000 You guys can form two lines in the two aisles.

00:50:11.000 Just make them super quick.

00:50:13.000 We want to hear from students or from young families in particular as you guys wrestle with this stuff.

00:50:18.000 Okay.

00:50:20.000 Hey, man, good to see you again.

00:50:22.000 Thank you for everything.

00:50:22.000 Hey, good to see you.

00:50:25.000 I just wanted to ask, I'm sure you heard about Joe Rogan recently had to backtrack on some comments about young people getting the vaccine, specifically 21 and under.

00:50:37.000 And with him backtracking, since he's on a bigger platform, do you believe that in the coming months and towards the end of the year, they will start limiting freedoms who have already made, for people who have already made up their mind that they are not going to get the vaccine?

00:50:53.000 Look, so I get asked about the vaccine all the time.

00:50:55.000 So let me tell you, I'm by no means an expert in this, but I'm going to tell you personally what I've decided to do.

00:51:01.000 I'm going to tell you why I decided what I did.

00:51:03.000 And then you guys can make your own decision.

00:51:05.000 I'm not in the place to judge you or to categorize you based on any of that.

00:51:09.000 I am not getting the vaccine.

00:51:11.000 Okay?

00:51:16.000 And I will not use the force of government to mandate anyone else to get the vaccine.

00:51:22.000 So, and I know some very close relatives and friends that have gotten the vaccine.

00:51:27.000 Their reasoning is logical.

00:51:29.000 I don't necessarily share that reasoning.

00:51:31.000 But I will leave it to medical experts, of which Dr. Fauci is not, to answer those types of questions.

00:51:40.000 And so, why?

00:51:42.000 People say, Charlie, why won't you get the vaccine?

00:51:44.000 I'm 27 years old.

00:51:46.000 I work out almost every single day.

00:51:48.000 I eat well.

00:51:49.000 I've been lied to for a year by the medical establishment.

00:51:54.000 I'm going to take my chances.

00:51:58.000 And again, that's my own position.

00:52:02.000 I will tell you when I'm speaking from a position of authority, I am not speaking from position authority on this.

00:52:07.000 Consult who you trust, read the literature that you find to be factual, and make an informed decision, of which that's why I love liberty.

00:52:15.000 Make the decision you see fit.

00:52:17.000 Okay, next question.

00:52:18.000 Hi, my name is Eric Hayes.

00:52:20.000 Some of you that went to the Southwest Regional Conference know me as the Trump guy.

00:52:24.000 Some of you, I don't know.

00:52:25.000 I remember that.

00:52:27.000 So, my question is: We had a conversation at the block party about how I kind of wanted to go down the path that you're going through.

00:52:36.000 I remember that conversation.

00:52:38.000 Yeah, and my question is: I've actually gotten a little bit of lashback from my family because they're really anti-social media.

00:52:46.000 So, I'm like thinking there's really like that's like the only way to kind of like get your voice out there is social media and then obviously going to like school board meetings and stuff.

00:52:58.000 Is there anything else I could do?

00:52:59.000 I mean, the power of social media is just so big now.

00:53:04.000 Yeah, so I think our conversation, just to fill everyone else in, on what we talked about, is you have a talent.

00:53:08.000 You're very funny.

00:53:09.000 You do the best Trump impersonation.

00:53:10.000 I've heard west of the Mississippi.

00:53:12.000 There's a guy in New York that does it better than you, but that's okay.

00:53:14.000 So, I said west of the Mississippi, it's pretty good, right?

00:53:17.000 That's half the country.

00:53:19.000 It's a very good impersonation.

00:53:21.000 And you said, Hey, Charlie, what should I do?

00:53:23.000 And I believe that young people that have creative talent should try to create their own pages and channels and try to create their own spheres of influence, right?

00:53:30.000 Especially people that are filled with the Spirit and that love the Lord.

00:53:34.000 We need more people that are being good examples for others on social media, which is just so lacking.

00:53:40.000 And so, let me just clue you in.

00:53:42.000 I don't like social media either.

00:53:44.000 I really don't.

00:53:45.000 And actually, my team manages social media for me.

00:53:48.000 I'm purely a publisher, not an internalizer of anything on social media.

00:53:52.000 I think it's mostly kind of mountains of garbage that is really not good for our soul.

00:53:57.000 So, let me first get dive deeper, though.

00:53:59.000 You need to first answer the question of why do you want to do what you do?

00:54:03.000 And then the what will figure it out, figure itself out.

00:54:06.000 And then the why needs to be, hey, I really want to see America go back to a place of strong, strong ideas.

00:54:14.000 I want to go back, I want to see America recommit itself to its true ideals of the founding.

00:54:19.000 That, then all of a sudden, you're going to fill it in from there.

00:54:22.000 The how, there's a thousand ideas I could give you right now that are even outside of social media.

00:54:27.000 And you might say, well, what are some of those ideas?

00:54:30.000 So, whether it be running for office at a very local age, whether it be organizing your friends or starting a business, if you do it for the correct reasons, which is always to pursue righteousness and always to be obedient to the Lord, the rest will follow.

00:54:45.000 And so, don't, I'm going to challenge you.

00:54:47.000 Think even more creatively outside of your horizons.

00:54:50.000 There's a big world outside of social media.

00:54:52.000 You have a talent.

00:54:53.000 You really do.

00:54:54.000 And social media is the easy way to do that right now.

00:54:59.000 And maybe it is the right way.

00:55:00.000 Maybe you'll be able to convince your parents.

00:55:02.000 But there's always wisdom from parents that are trying to stop you from doing something.

00:55:06.000 I love the Ten Commandments.

00:55:07.000 The only one of the Ten Commandments with a promise is honor your mother and father so that you might live long and prosper in the land you are in.

00:55:18.000 Somewhat paraphrasing, that's the essence of the commandment, which is every totalitarian government always breaks the bond between their children and their parents.

00:55:28.000 And so take what they're saying very seriously.

00:55:31.000 And if you feel differently, express that.

00:55:34.000 But answer the why and use your skill and talent, and you're going to be just fine.

00:55:39.000 Thank you.

00:55:39.000 Appreciate it.

00:55:40.000 Thanks.

00:55:43.000 I like your shirt.

00:55:44.000 That was a good year.

00:55:45.000 Thank you.

00:55:47.000 Hey, Charlie.

00:55:48.000 So my name is Jake.

00:55:49.000 First of all, I just recently subscribed to your podcast.

00:55:51.000 You can be Rachel Maddow in the numbers.

00:55:53.000 Thank you.

00:55:53.000 If everyone subscribed to the podcast here, we would beat the New York Times and the podcast charts by tomorrow morning.

00:55:59.000 So God bless you.

00:56:00.000 That's very kind of you.

00:56:01.000 So my question is about like eight or nine years ago, I went to this retreat at my church at the time, and the pastor was talking about how the average age of marriages are starting to go up, which wasn't really all that surprising.

00:56:13.000 But then he talked about how the birth rate was going way down.

00:56:16.000 And that was kind of surprising.

00:56:18.000 And my thought was that, you know, nowadays, you know, a bunch of feminists and left-wing people are telling women, like, hey, being part of a family, having a bunch of kids is all patriarchy trying to keep you down.

00:56:28.000 Don't worry about that.

00:56:29.000 Just go work.

00:56:30.000 Don't worry about having kids.

00:56:32.000 So most of the people I would imagine, for the most part, who are having three, four, five-plus kids are more conservative or lean more towards that.

00:56:40.000 So could you see maybe in like, I don't know, 20 years as the next generation becomes born, that a lot of more kids going on will be born more in that conservative family unit versus all these feminists who may only have like one kid.

00:56:53.000 Or they're like, I want one of each.

00:56:55.000 Like they're picking out like tile or something.

00:56:58.000 Yeah.

00:56:58.000 Look, be fruitful and multiply.

00:57:00.000 That's not that hard to figure out.

00:57:03.000 But look, you actually strike a really important point.

00:57:06.000 I am such a vocal critic of this feminist movement that has infected the minds of young women across the country.

00:57:13.000 It is so destructive.

00:57:16.000 You just had a wonderful women's conference, by the way.

00:57:18.000 I heard you had a very, very good event.

00:57:20.000 Congratulations.

00:57:21.000 It was terrific.

00:57:22.000 You heard great things.

00:57:24.000 And look, we are now seeing the byproduct of this insidious feminist movement in our country, which is a declining population rate.

00:57:35.000 And I'm going to be very honest, the unhappiest generation of women America has ever seen.

00:57:40.000 Very, very successful in career, but missing something that biologically and spiritually there's a pull on their spirit for, which is to get married and have children.

00:57:50.000 And just from a purely civilizational standpoint, if you're not having children, the civilization will not continue.

00:57:57.000 And so let me build that out even more.

00:57:59.000 We're on the verge of a population collapse in our country right now.

00:58:03.000 No one wants to talk about it, but the numbers are so unbelievable.

00:58:06.000 We're on pace to have 600,000 less children this year versus last year.

00:58:12.000 Now, let me tell you why that's really troubling.

00:58:16.000 People would say, wait a second, you're going to lock everyone together in homes for a couple months.

00:58:21.000 The birth rate is going to skyrocket.

00:58:23.000 What if I told you that having children is a value?

00:58:29.000 What if I told you that actually replicating yourself through children is not something that once you possess the technology that people automatically want to have done?

00:58:43.000 That's a very interesting thing to think about.

00:58:45.000 So we're on the verge of a population collapse, which politically, I don't know how that's going to work for them in 30 or 40 years because basically we're going to have the ones that have very, very big families.

00:58:56.000 I've offered this challenge.

00:58:57.000 I've had one person ever offer me, and I don't even believe them, but that's okay.

00:59:01.000 But it's an open standing offer, Dennis Prager and I as well, at freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:59:06.000 Find me an atheist family with five or more kids.

00:59:08.000 I have never found them.

00:59:10.000 It's one, no, seriously, if you ever find that family introduced me.

00:59:13.000 There was one, it was kind of shaky.

00:59:14.000 They were like deists.

00:59:15.000 I said, aha, okay.

00:59:17.000 So, nobody, right?

00:59:18.000 And so, if you don't believe in the Lord, you usually stop at some point.

00:59:24.000 And I'm not saying it's a bad thing, right?

00:59:25.000 I'm just saying that religious people have always been the driving force of why to have children.

00:59:31.000 Now, I'm going to go a step further.

00:59:33.000 What's one of the top reasons that millennials are saying they don't want to have kids?

00:59:37.000 The environment.

00:59:39.000 It's true.

00:59:39.000 They say that, why would I want to replicate myself to destroy the earth?

00:59:44.000 Now, thankfully, we have the inerrant, perfect word of the Lord to tell us whether we should believe that or not.

00:59:51.000 We should take dominion over the earth of which we are in.

00:59:54.000 We should love the earth, we should respect it, but we have a human-first philosophy when it comes to procreation, when it comes to government, and when it comes to families.

01:00:04.000 No one should ever apologize for having a lot of children.

01:00:07.000 They are a gift from the Lord.

01:00:09.000 Now, we're now seeing this with this movement that thinks you can find satisfaction and fulfillment in materialism.

01:00:17.000 So, what we're really seeing right now is a collision course of two different worldviews, which is: do you believe the things that matter come in beauty, wonder, truth, and goodness, or things you can't always touch, but things you can explain and feel and know in your spirit?

01:00:33.000 Or do you think things that matter come from materials?

01:00:37.000 Do you think they come from things you can touch and things that give you pleasure?

01:00:40.000 So, the question is: what is liberty?

01:00:43.000 So, if you ask, and you're wearing that 1776 shirt, I'm going to mention on that in a second because it's a really special year for reasons that people might not always be able to articulate.

01:00:51.000 In that year, that word liberty, if you guys ever see in Google where they say, like, how often was that word used and it like goes up in a certain year?

01:00:58.000 The word liberty had like its best year ever in 1776.

01:01:01.000 But the founding fathers did not define liberty the way that your children are being taught what liberty is.

01:01:07.000 So, here's how your children are being taught what liberty is.

01:01:10.000 They're being taught liberty as being able to do whatever you want to do, however you want to do it, as long as it feels good because it's your truth.

01:01:16.000 The founding fathers call that hedonism.

01:01:19.000 They thought they found that to be repulsive.

01:01:21.000 Here's what liberty is: being free and able to pursue virtue without government getting in the way.

01:01:28.000 That's what liberty is.

01:01:30.000 And so, in the year 1776, was the year George Mason, one of my favorite founding fathers, wrote the Virginia Bill of Rights, which ended up being what we know as the First Ten Amendments of the Constitution, which, by the way, they almost didn't make it.

01:01:43.000 There's a whole drama of how the Constitution was almost never amended.

01:01:47.000 It was the year Adam Smith wrote The Inquiry into the Wealth of Nations.

01:01:50.000 It was the year that Thomas Paine wrote Common Sense.

01:01:52.000 And of course, Thomas Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Independence, where he famously said, Laws of nature and nature is God.

01:01:59.000 So, how do I tie all of that together?

01:02:02.000 You asked about children, and you asked about populating the earth and all of that.

01:02:06.000 I'm getting married on Saturday.

01:02:08.000 I highly recommend every young person does as well and have lots of children.

01:02:11.000 That's my final recommendation.

01:02:13.000 Finally, okay.

01:02:15.000 Hey, guys, how are you doing?

01:02:19.000 What's your name?

01:02:20.000 Evan.

01:02:21.000 What a great name.

01:02:24.000 What's on your mind?

01:02:26.000 Why do older people want to sued younger children to one side, even though they're how many years away from voting?

01:02:37.000 What a great question.

01:02:39.000 How old are you?

01:02:40.000 11.

01:02:41.000 11 years old.

01:02:43.000 Give it up for Evan.

01:02:44.000 11 years old, having courage to do that.

01:02:45.000 That's terrific.

01:02:50.000 So, believe it or not, Evan, the things that you are taught and that you internalize at the age you're at right now actually might make more of a difference than the things that you are taught and then you eternalize 10 years from now.

01:03:05.000 So we call the formative years.

01:03:08.000 And so you asked, why is it that adults want to influence children well before they can vote?

01:03:13.000 Well, we know this in the Bible.

01:03:15.000 Know that Jesus, first of all, was very, very clear about corrupting or going after young children for pernicious or evil ways.

01:03:22.000 In fact, he said it's better for you to have a millstone wrapped around your neck than to go after these little children.

01:03:27.000 It's a very important piece of scripture to remember.

01:03:30.000 But if I were to ask you what is good and what is evil, if I showed you two different events and you'd be able to show me, because you are dressed literally in a tuxedo here tonight.

01:03:41.000 So I'd imagine that you probably have very good parents.

01:03:45.000 But if you get that wrong, or if you came up here and you believe, you know, there is no God, we're just a clump of cells, what do you look like when you're an 18-year-old?

01:03:54.000 When you're an 18-year-old, all of a sudden, the people that implanted that awful idea in your head, they're going to reap that harvest, whatever it might be.

01:04:05.000 So the short answer, Evan, is that whomever controls the values, the morals, the decisions of you, the 11-year-olds right now, that's actually who's going to win the future.

01:04:16.000 So when I went through this entire thing of Litchfield Elementary School, you don't go there, do you?

01:04:21.000 Okay.

01:04:25.000 They care about this because they care about what Evan's going to think like and vote like when you're 18.

01:04:32.000 So they make the long-term investment, Evan.

01:04:35.000 And what we have not done a good job of doing is care about the Evans, the 11-year-olds all across Maricopa County.

01:04:45.000 What are they going to believe seven years from now?

01:04:47.000 And what's the role of the church and the role of the family in that regard?

01:04:51.000 And so I just want to commend you for asking that question.

01:04:54.000 Anything else on your mind?

01:04:56.000 No.

01:04:57.000 Well, thanks for being here and God bless you, Evan.

01:04:59.000 It's awesome.

01:05:00.000 Thank you.

01:05:06.000 Hey, Charlie.

01:05:07.000 How are you doing?

01:05:08.000 Good.

01:05:11.000 So I originally was going to ask a couple questions, but now I feel like I just need to say a few things, kind of where the conversation has led.

01:05:20.000 First of all, being fruitful, multiplying is the first commandment we are given in the entirety of the Bible.

01:05:26.000 So that should be a good hint as to how important that is.

01:05:30.000 Another thing I would say, I grew up in the church my entire life, and just some advice for parents and grandparents.

01:05:37.000 It is extremely, it was just super common growing up to hear how challenging being a parent is.

01:05:46.000 And basically, I would just give the advice to be careful about how you speak about parenthood because so many people that I know that grew up in the church, they just think that they can't do parenthood until they are graduated, until they have a good income, until all the pieces fall together.

01:06:09.000 And in the 1940s, that wasn't the case.

01:06:11.000 So maybe it might be just good if you can maybe talk to just that issue in our generation, because my wife and I are going to have our first kid in October.

01:06:21.000 Congratulations.

01:06:22.000 Thank you.

01:06:23.000 Well done.

01:06:23.000 And we're pointing at a great issue.

01:06:27.000 And let me kind of tie that all together: is that we should be talking about the positives and the benefits of parenthood.

01:06:36.000 And I have not experienced that.

01:06:39.000 However, I hear 99% negative for one positive.

01:06:43.000 The number one piece of feedback I get, even from Christians, is wait before you have kids.

01:06:48.000 Your life is totally going to change.

01:06:50.000 And eventually you're going to enjoy it.

01:06:52.000 Just so you guys know, this is one of the reasons why young people don't have children, though.

01:06:57.000 At least from a sales and marketing standpoint, like just talk about it a little bit better, right?

01:07:05.000 So I think you're getting at that exactly, right?

01:07:07.000 Where it's like everyone is so freaked out and terrified, where in the 1940s or the 1920s was like, no, this is what we do, and it's wonderful, and you're going to have children.

01:07:15.000 And it worked.

01:07:16.000 And so I think that's a really important thing.

01:07:19.000 And I kind of share that because it's kind of at this point where it's like, yep, everything's different.

01:07:25.000 I sort of liked it.

01:07:27.000 You know, it's like, seriously, there's people that are not always talking very glowingly about it.

01:07:31.000 And there's obviously tons of wonderful examples there.

01:07:33.000 But that has a big impact on young people that are thinking of making those decisions more than you could ever imagine.

01:07:39.000 And I just want to second that.

01:07:41.000 So thank you so much.

01:07:42.000 I appreciate that.

01:07:43.000 Next question.

01:07:45.000 Hey, Charlie, big fan.

01:07:46.000 You know, a lot of people work out to secular music.

01:07:48.000 I work out listening to your podcast.

01:07:50.000 Thank you.

01:07:51.000 Yep, no problem.

01:07:52.000 So it was cool to see you hear or talk about education as I'm finishing up my first year of teaching, something I'm really passionate about.

01:08:00.000 Congratulations.

01:08:01.000 We need more teachers.

01:08:02.000 That's awesome.

01:08:02.000 Thank you.

01:08:05.000 My question would be like a two-part question.

01:08:07.000 First is, how do we get more people like me who are passionate about today's youth and who are strong Christian moral people into this occupation?

01:08:17.000 And second, how do we keep them there?

01:08:19.000 Because it is very, very hard to stay in this education.

01:08:23.000 It's been a very tough year just as a strong Christian young person.

01:08:28.000 Are you a current teacher?

01:08:29.000 Yeah, I teach seventh and eighth grade PE.

01:08:31.000 So it makes it even harder.

01:08:32.000 Yeah.

01:08:33.000 That's awesome.

01:08:33.000 So it's been tough and I'm going to stick through it, but it's been very tough.

01:08:38.000 Once parents found out I did a little bit of social media on conservative before I got in teaching.

01:08:43.000 So once they found that, it made it very tough.

01:08:45.000 They were always trying to push me out of the job, making up stuff.

01:08:48.000 So it's like, how do we get more people like me into the career and how can we keep them in that job throughout the entire time?

01:08:54.000 Well, first of all, I want to encourage you because you're right where you need to be, which is we need, it's so important.

01:09:03.000 And you're living out the gospel, just so you know.

01:09:06.000 Because you're going into a place that you aren't always welcome, where it's going to be difficult, and you're going to be able to minister to kids that, you know, and some of you might say, oh, PE, what's the difference?

01:09:15.000 No, no, no.

01:09:15.000 You know what they teach in PE?

01:09:17.000 They teach, I don't know if in Arizona, but sexual education.

01:09:20.000 They teach a lot of that stuff, at least in Illinois.

01:09:22.000 So you want to talk about someone that has a good moral compass in that, you know, that environment, you're going to touch people's lives in a very, very special way.

01:09:32.000 So get tenure is my first piece of advice as quickly as possible, and then you can have a lot of fun.

01:09:39.000 No, seriously, because we need to start using tenure against these people.

01:09:42.000 We always complain about tenure, right?

01:09:44.000 Can't fire teachers, can't this?

01:09:46.000 Okay, then wait your turn, get tenure, ride it out.

01:09:50.000 Hope that they don't know this video or whatever, but you know, a couple people watch this, but you'll be fine.

01:09:55.000 And by the way, we'll come to your defense if they try to do anything to you.

01:09:57.000 If they try to even say one word to you, we're going to come to your defense.

01:10:01.000 I'm going to tell you why.

01:10:02.000 Because we're not going to tolerate that.

01:10:05.000 And we, and just for young people out there, you know, whether it be a teacher or whether whatever it is, that is such an important calling because you're going to be in really molding the minds for the next generation.

01:10:18.000 And so, and then finally, stay really close to the word every single day.

01:10:23.000 Very important.

01:10:23.000 It's easy when you work in the secular world to kind of just drift away from it, but to find that 10 minutes, those 15 minutes every single day, it's critically important.

01:10:32.000 And so, God bless you, man.

01:10:34.000 That's really important.

01:10:34.000 Thanks for being here.

01:10:35.000 Thank you.

01:10:39.000 We'll get to as many as we can.

01:10:41.000 Yes.

01:10:42.000 Hey, Charlie, I'll be quick.

01:10:43.000 I'm from up north in Yavapike County.

01:10:46.000 Wow, thank you for coming.

01:10:47.000 Jeez.

01:10:47.000 You're welcome.

01:10:48.000 It's been a long day.

01:10:49.000 I started work at 5 a.m. today and came here as soon as I got off.

01:10:52.000 It's awesome.

01:10:54.000 But in that, in addition to my job, I'm trying to rally my church members, my friends, everyone around.

01:11:01.000 And I just, sometimes it feels like it's stringing from a fire hose of trying to stay on top of all the issues, contact senators, contact the governor, and all that good stuff.

01:11:10.000 Is there any tips that you might have for helping that flow to be more of a trickle and less of a fire hose?

01:11:17.000 Yeah, I just want to first thank you for making the long journey down here.

01:11:20.000 That's awesome.

01:11:21.000 And so, yeah, we try to do that on our podcast to give kind of a condensed version of kind of what's happening and where it is.

01:11:30.000 I would recommend try to find five or six people in your church that share your values and share your concern and start a group and name that group.

01:11:39.000 Come up with some title.

01:11:41.000 Like, we're the freedom fighters of whatever church that is.

01:11:43.000 Now, why does the name matter?

01:11:44.000 Once you name something, it becomes real.

01:11:46.000 That's why once we named Freedom Square, it became a real thing.

01:11:49.000 You name children for a reason.

01:11:50.000 So you come up with a name and your five closest friends, whatever it might be, right?

01:11:55.000 And you have a network then where you guys are going to be working together on the issues around.

01:12:02.000 And you might be texting and supporting each other, but you shouldn't have to just do that alone.

01:12:06.000 And there's so many people that share the concern you have.

01:12:10.000 And if anyone is from your part of the world here tonight, maybe there's a network or a connection that can happen, or someone's going to listen to this podcast and email us.

01:12:17.000 And I'd love to help you because I could tell you that the pressure that you feel, which is a lot, you're up at 5 a.m., you're working, you're driving down here, you're driving back.

01:12:26.000 I'm telling you, there's other people that are just waiting to be asked to pitch into that.

01:12:30.000 But you form a small local community.

01:12:31.000 Now, let me give you an example of how small, local, organic communities founded our country.

01:12:37.000 This country was founded in the midst of the night, without British being able to detect it, with 10 or 12 people meeting at taverns and pubs and bars all across the eastern seaboard.

01:12:49.000 And yes, in churches as well.

01:12:51.000 It was the local community.

01:12:52.000 It was 10 or 12 people that's saying, hey, did you guys hear about this Jonathan Edwards guy, this George Whitfield guy?

01:12:58.000 Hey, this Thomas Jefferson guy is writing this document.

01:13:02.000 And it's pretty aggressive.

01:13:04.000 And like, it was all of a sudden these like local, spontaneous conversations.

01:13:08.000 And so I would go out of your way to form community.

01:13:12.000 And I'm going to say that to everyone else in the room.

01:13:14.000 If you're not part of a community, forget the Republican thing, okay?

01:13:17.000 That has their own.

01:13:18.000 I'm talking about community of values and community of action locally, right?

01:13:22.000 Five, six, seven people.

01:13:23.000 We're going to get coffee once a month.

01:13:24.000 We're going to talk about the news.

01:13:25.000 We're going to get dinner, whatever it is.

01:13:27.000 All of a sudden, that's where spontaneous action comes out of it.

01:13:30.000 And the American founding, in a lot of different ways, was an extension of that.

01:13:34.000 And then just pray for wisdom.

01:13:35.000 It's the one thing that God says he gives generously.

01:13:38.000 James 1:5, you pray for wisdom, God will give you wisdom for what you need.

01:13:41.000 And I just want to encourage you.

01:13:42.000 I could tell in your eyes and just in the posture of how you ask the question, you really want to do good for your community.

01:13:48.000 And I'm blessed and touched by that, truly.

01:13:50.000 So God bless you.

01:13:51.000 Thank you.

01:13:53.000 I know that t-shirt.

01:13:55.000 I've worn that t-shirt before.

01:13:57.000 Yeah.

01:13:58.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:13:58.000 My name is Sophia Van Arsdale.

01:14:00.000 I'm a senior in high school in California, Cornada High School.

01:14:04.000 Wow.

01:14:04.000 And I'm going to go to Liberty University this fall.

01:14:07.000 It's a great school.

01:14:08.000 It's fine policy, so I'm super excited.

01:14:11.000 My question is about a certain thing that's happening at my school right now.

01:14:14.000 There's a program called No Place for Hate, and it's basically conducted through the Anti-Defamation League, which is basically a very woke organization.

01:14:23.000 And they're implementing it in our schools.

01:14:25.000 And they're basically painting it as a thing to combat bias and prejudice in the schools.

01:14:31.000 But of course, I did my research on it, and it's a total thing against all conservative values.

01:14:36.000 Like if you say all lives matter, you're immediately labeled as a hateful person and creating an unsafe space in the community.

01:14:43.000 So my question is: how can I expose the truth about this organization on my campus to make people wake up and realize that it's not combating prejudice or bias, like whatever they label that as or define it as, but it's an attack on our values as Christians and conservatives?

01:15:01.000 Yeah, amen.

01:15:01.000 Well, first of all, you're a senior in high school.

01:15:03.000 God bless you.

01:15:04.000 I mean, and just so you guys know, this is part of the plan, which is I try to get people that are over the age of 40 to hear and you see how hard young people are fighting for this stuff, to try to raise the level of engagement.

01:15:22.000 Because if you have a senior at Coronado, which is used to be conservative, Rob grew up around there.

01:15:28.000 Yeah.

01:15:31.000 Oh, okay.

01:15:33.000 You're in San Diego.

01:15:34.000 Yeah.

01:15:34.000 She's from California.

01:15:35.000 Yeah.

01:15:36.000 Yeah.

01:15:37.000 So, then all of us can raise our game a little bit.

01:15:41.000 So let me just tell you right now, that's a really tough fight.

01:15:44.000 I'm not going to give you false hope.

01:15:46.000 I'll tell you when a fight is winnable and when a fight isn't.

01:15:48.000 You're senior.

01:15:50.000 So you got like a couple weeks left, maybe.

01:15:52.000 That's a tough fight.

01:15:54.000 So I'm just going to be perfectly honest with you because the way they frame it is around making people feel good, but then it actually becomes very totalitarian in nature, which is if you dare say these certain things, we're going to crush you.

01:16:06.000 Remember, this is one of the things that we all have to remember.

01:16:09.000 These movements always have a totalitarian bend to them.

01:16:12.000 They almost always end in a smaller group of people controlling more for a purpose of which they desire, right?

01:16:19.000 So I would instead just try to spark some conversations with a couple friends and just ask a very specific question.

01:16:27.000 Why is it wrong to say all lives matter?

01:16:30.000 Just find something very specific.

01:16:32.000 With one couple weeks left in high school in Coronado, in a school that you're going in, that's going to be tough.

01:16:38.000 But I hope you guys all understand this is a well-funded program that's in schools all across the country that is being implemented, and it's very, very serious.

01:16:47.000 But I do want to say I hope you get involved with Turning Point USA at Liberty and stay conservative and stay involved.

01:16:53.000 And you're going to have a really good time there.

01:16:55.000 So God bless you.

01:16:56.000 It's terrific.

01:16:57.000 Thank you.

01:16:57.000 All right, we'll get to a couple more, as many as we can.

01:17:01.000 Yes?

01:17:02.000 Hi, yes.

01:17:04.000 I wanted to ask about the best way to go about creating a dialogue, a more meaningful dialogue with the liberals in our own lives, or just in general.

01:17:16.000 I know the last two talking points were more church-setting-oriented and going to more to the school setting-oriented.

01:17:23.000 But what about more at home or with family or at like the workplace setting, which I know can be a very big gray area sometimes?

01:17:31.000 So, awesome question.

01:17:32.000 So, dialogue is one of my favorite English words because it comes from two Greek words, dia through and log, logos, reason, which is actually right in John 1, one of the two creation stories.

01:17:43.000 So, Genesis and John, the same creation story told differently.

01:17:47.000 And so, I'll tell you this, that we don't have enough dialogue happening in our country right now.

01:17:53.000 And they actually don't want it.

01:17:54.000 They do not want discourse.

01:17:56.000 They do not want conversation.

01:17:57.000 They do not want speech.

01:17:59.000 And so, if there's one other marching order for everyone here is go embrace as many conversations as possible.

01:18:05.000 And the tough ones matter the most.

01:18:08.000 So, if I can tell you guys a little bit of not tough love, but things that we all know to be true.

01:18:13.000 And I'm part of this.

01:18:16.000 The conversations that are most essential to our nation are the ones that we don't want to have.

01:18:20.000 The ones with family members, friends, and neighbors.

01:18:23.000 We're happy to go knock on a stranger's door and say, hey, here's what you should believe and why you believe it.

01:18:28.000 But your sister, your brother, your uncle, your aunt, like, nope, that's too close to home.

01:18:33.000 So, how do you do that?

01:18:34.000 Do what the Lord did.

01:18:36.000 Ask questions.

01:18:38.000 Just ask, why do you believe what you believe?

01:18:41.000 Has it ever worked?

01:18:42.000 Where do rights come from?

01:18:45.000 How is it working in New York City?

01:18:47.000 How is it working in Seattle?

01:18:49.000 Why are so many people leaving California if it's so wonderful?

01:18:52.000 Why do they leave the nation homelessness?

01:18:54.000 If you're asking questions, you're immediately putting them on a pedestal, have to explain their worldview, and then you can navigate the conversation correctly from there.

01:19:03.000 But I just want to say, as soon as we stop talking to each other in this country, we're going to start tearing each other apart.

01:19:08.000 Speech is a biblical value.

01:19:11.000 Let me say that again.

01:19:12.000 Speech is a biblical value.

01:19:14.000 The Lord spoke into existence.

01:19:16.000 The Lord spoke into existence.

01:19:17.000 We must never forget that speaking amongst them with each other is something that ties us together, keeps us decent with one another.

01:19:25.000 And so I want to just commend you for your question.

01:19:27.000 I think it's incredibly important.

01:19:28.000 So thank you.

01:19:29.000 All right, we'll get to a couple more.

01:19:32.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:19:33.000 My name is Kimberly.

01:19:33.000 I just graduated from Northern Arizona University, or as I like to say, I survived it.

01:19:37.000 Oh, good.

01:19:39.000 My question is not on my behalf, but it's on my mother's.

01:19:42.000 She is a teacher at a public school that shall remain unnamed.

01:19:47.000 For now.

01:19:48.000 For now.

01:19:49.000 And their district has not yet implemented the critical race theory or the equitable training that you mentioned that Litchfield is doing.

01:19:56.000 However, she has mentioned to me privately that she has had staff meetings and department meetings and even emails from her administrators encouraging her to independently teach her students critical race theory and equitably grade her students, which means she can't fail them.

01:20:14.000 And she's not willing to fight this.

01:20:18.000 She's, well, she's, I take that back.

01:20:20.000 She's trying to fight it.

01:20:21.000 She doesn't know how much longer she can last.

01:20:23.000 But my question is, how can she continue to fight this?

01:20:27.000 And more importantly, how can parents who don't know about this where this isn't happening at school board meetings, it's happening in staff meetings, how can they fight this?

01:20:35.000 So this is part of why we're doing this.

01:20:37.000 And I want to reinforce this.

01:20:38.000 I'm really good at exposing things.

01:20:41.000 We are at Turning Point USA.

01:20:42.000 We got it, and I know that pray on it, and you can always email us directly, freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:20:47.000 I'm not going to put you on the spot.

01:20:48.000 But if, you know, we have a whole team that screens all these tips.

01:20:52.000 But part of our show always is exposing what's happening.

01:20:56.000 And then I guarantee you, wherever she's a teacher, there are parents that would be outraged to hear that.

01:21:02.000 So here's what has to start to happen.

01:21:05.000 The teachers are kind of, they're being told what to do, and they're in that position, is that parents here in this room, I don't know when the municipal elections are.

01:21:15.000 I think they're different in each area, but they're coming up, which is got to start taking back these school board positions and find out at the very least who they are.

01:21:23.000 Can anyone name every single one of their school board members?

01:21:26.000 Anyone by name?

01:21:27.000 And you pray for them and the issues they're dealing with?

01:21:29.000 Well, it tells us in 1 Timothy to pray for the leaders by name so that you might live quiet and peaceable lives.

01:21:36.000 So at the very least, by the next Freedom Square, just have your guys listed out that you're praying for every single day.

01:21:41.000 And then prayer will lead to action and communication.

01:21:45.000 Here's an action item for everyone.

01:21:46.000 Schedule a coffee with your school board member, one of them, before the next Freedom Square.

01:21:52.000 How about this?

01:21:53.000 After our honeymoon, I am going to pop up spontaneously at one school board meeting a month in Arizona or nationally and just give public testimony.

01:22:06.000 And so until we start to lovingly put pressure on these school boards, nothing's going to change.

01:22:14.000 I can do a segment on our podcast, but until you, the people that you guys go to football games with and you go soccer games with, when you show up at that meeting, you say, no, no, no, no.

01:22:23.000 Ibram X. Kendi is not going to be in Scottsdale schools.

01:22:26.000 It's not going to be in Paradise Valley schools.

01:22:28.000 And here's the final thing: they are really afraid of you guys rising up and doing this.

01:22:32.000 And guess what?

01:22:33.000 It takes like 20 people.

01:22:35.000 I'm not talking about a legion of 2,000 people.

01:22:37.000 20 people can totally change the direction of one of these meetings.

01:22:40.000 And yes, there's a reason why they put them in the middle of the night on Tuesday evenings.

01:22:44.000 There's a reason why they do that, okay?

01:22:46.000 But look at South Lake, Texas.

01:22:48.000 All it takes is to get that information out there.

01:22:50.000 And education.

01:22:51.000 I think we all agree that if we don't get education right, everything else is going to fall apart.

01:22:56.000 That we've got to get education right, and from there, other things are going to start to correct.

01:23:01.000 Thank you so much.

01:23:02.000 We'll take one or two more.

01:23:04.000 I don't want to keep you guys too late.

01:23:06.000 Hey, Charlie, my name is Chris.

01:23:08.000 I'm from a small town in Pocatello, Idaho, in a church of about 50 people.

01:23:12.000 And so my question is, as turning point grows and as more churches get involved with this, we're going to have thousands and thousands of people.

01:23:20.000 And obviously, the left is going to figure out that we exist.

01:23:24.000 So at that point in time, we're going to have people like Don Lemon who like to twist our messages and say that the church is becoming political.

01:23:30.000 And at that point, the government may end up attacking all of these small churches at once.

01:23:35.000 So how do churches start to begin to prepare and get ready to attack or defend themselves from the federal government?

01:23:43.000 Because that's what the separation of church and state was for in the first place.

01:23:46.000 Wow.

01:23:50.000 So do you know why I love that question?

01:23:53.000 He's actually thinking about the test game.

01:23:56.000 And this is something that's my biggest complaint of the Republican Party.

01:23:58.000 They're always playing just what's happening, not what they're trying to force to happen next.

01:24:03.000 So let me give you a couple examples of your brilliant question, why it's important.

01:24:06.000 They don't want to abolish the police in America.

01:24:09.000 They do not want to abolish the police.

01:24:12.000 They want to create a national police force.

01:24:15.000 So they want to vacate the police and then have crime go up.

01:24:20.000 And then the solution will be a federally trained critical race theory police force.

01:24:24.000 You could see that happening like that, couldn't you?

01:24:27.000 Of course.

01:24:27.000 It's not that they don't want any police.

01:24:29.000 They want police that work for them.

01:24:31.000 So that's two moves ahead, right?

01:24:34.000 Same thing with inflation.

01:24:37.000 They want to create money out of thin air.

01:24:39.000 Why?

01:24:40.000 Do they want prices to go up?

01:24:42.000 Only as a means to what end?

01:24:45.000 Well, the left wants to politically remake the country at any cost.

01:24:49.000 Well, you can solve inflation through three different ways.

01:24:53.000 You can solve inflation through either raising taxes, raising interest rates, or massively expanding your immigration policies.

01:25:02.000 Because if more people are trading with dollar bills, it therefore is a hedge against inflation.

01:25:07.000 Well, that would give them an excuse to do mass amnesty in the country.

01:25:11.000 Inflation will necessitate an argument for mass immigration.

01:25:15.000 Start to see how some of these things are connected more.

01:25:18.000 Same thing with your point.

01:25:19.000 If the churches start to rise up, then all of a sudden the federal government is probably going to come at once against the small ones, the ones that can't defend themselves, and put metaphorically try to make show trials out of them, a Soviet-style show trial.

01:25:35.000 So let me say a couple things.

01:25:37.000 I personally am going to lend my platform and everything we do to try to defend any pastor, any church that comes under attack or persecution from the federal government.

01:25:46.000 That's number one.

01:25:47.000 Number two, we must be very clear and we must say the thing we fear out loud because then they're going to be less likely to do it.

01:25:57.000 They always try to sneak attack us or surprise us.

01:25:59.000 We must say, look, we know that the federal government is going to try to persecute Christianity.

01:26:03.000 We know that's coming next.

01:26:04.000 The third thing is this.

01:26:05.000 It's that nothing we said here tonight by any means whatsoever is against any federal regulation at all.

01:26:11.000 We talked about values, we talked about education, and I was also very clear about not staying away from politics.

01:26:16.000 The church is safe harbor territory there.

01:26:18.000 And finally, I'll say this, is the pastors do have to start to say, you know what, this is a time for boldness.

01:26:24.000 There might be a cost, there might be a price, and we do have to be bold.

01:26:27.000 But I want to say this.

01:26:28.000 The smaller churches have an understandable fear, but they can know that if they stand in boldness, they're going to have a big support network behind them.

01:26:36.000 They're going to have, and this, just so you guys know, we have, at Turning Point Faith, we already have over 100 pastors that are coming out together, and this is going to be in conjunction with Freedom Square and all this.

01:26:46.000 They say, you know what, we want to stand not just for this, but with each other.

01:26:50.000 I'm going to tell you about one pastor that needs your help and your prayers right now.

01:26:54.000 Someone that you should pray for by name is Pastor Mike McClure at Calvary Chapel, San Jose.

01:26:58.000 He opened up his church fully in May of last year, and he's facing $2.7 million in fines from the local community.

01:27:04.000 What you are doing right now, sitting in a chair listening to me, is costing him hundreds of thousands of dollars a week.

01:27:11.000 But he says, you know what, you can find me all you want.

01:27:13.000 You can take my property.

01:27:14.000 You could do whatever you want.

01:27:15.000 The people we have won over to Jesus is worth whatever fine that you're going to throw to me on earth.

01:27:21.000 And I'm inspired by Pastor Mike McClure.

01:27:26.000 I'm inspired by what he's been able to do.

01:27:28.000 And so I get it, but just also understand, you know, why they've been afraid?

01:27:32.000 It's because I believe there hasn't been a support network before that has been willing to put the arm around the shoulder of the 50-person church and say, you know what?

01:27:40.000 You're going to come after that pastor.

01:27:41.000 You're going to have to go through Turning Point.

01:27:42.000 The Charlie Kirk Show and Freedom Square and Dream City and all of us.

01:27:47.000 We're not going to put up with that.

01:27:48.000 Thank you so much.

01:27:50.000 We'll take one more if we want or two more.

01:27:52.000 Thank you.

01:27:54.000 Hello, my name is James.

01:27:55.000 I'm from Tempe, Larry Ray across the street from ASU.

01:27:59.000 And my question is more of what are your thoughts on if the left supports abortion, why not just let them kill themselves off and make our job much easier?

01:28:12.000 Well, look, I could tell you're kidding.

01:28:16.000 Here's what.

01:28:18.000 Every life matters.

01:28:19.000 It doesn't matter if they're Democrat or Republican or liberal or conservative.

01:28:23.000 Truly.

01:28:23.000 Every single life matters.

01:28:25.000 And look, I'm not going to get into the utilitarian ethics, but I reject utilitarian ethics, right?

01:28:33.000 I believe that we must espouse ultimate truth and we must defend moral righteousness regardless of any of that.

01:28:40.000 And by the way, everyone gets abortions regardless of political beliefs.

01:28:44.000 And I just want to say that, you know, from the sarcastic question that you asked.

01:28:48.000 But look, I think that we have to be very clear of when life begins.

01:28:53.000 And that a million abortions a year in our country is a bad thing for everyone.

01:28:57.000 It's a bad thing.

01:28:58.000 And by the way, if we can't get that right, what else are we getting wrong in our country?

01:29:02.000 And so I appreciate the sarcastic question.

01:29:05.000 I understand where you're coming at from it.

01:29:07.000 So thank you so much.

01:29:08.000 Thanks.

01:29:11.000 All right, I think this will be our last question.

01:29:13.000 Sorry, guys.

01:29:14.000 We got to draw the line at some point.

01:29:16.000 Sorry.

01:29:16.000 Yes.

01:29:17.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:29:17.000 I'm Jaden Grandon.

01:29:19.000 I'm a freshman at Cactus Shadows High School in Cave Creek.

01:29:23.000 And I'm part of the Turning Point chapter, and I'm soon to be a leader there.

01:29:27.000 And this year, just they've put a lot of roadblocks up for us to expand Turning Point, and they've really tried to shut it down.

01:29:35.000 So I'd like to ask: what would be your advice to fighting these school administrations and keeping Turning Point going?

01:29:40.000 So what school is it?

01:29:41.000 Cactus Shadows High School?

01:29:43.000 Cactus Shadows High School.

01:29:45.000 What district is that in?

01:29:47.000 Cave Creek, 90th.

01:29:49.000 Cave Creek.

01:29:49.000 Does anyone live there here?

01:29:51.000 Then do something about it.

01:29:55.000 Not you, them.

01:29:56.000 So let's just be very clear so that there's marketing orders.

01:29:59.000 Cave Creek School, they're giving you a hard time to start a turning point group.

01:30:04.000 We already have one started.

01:30:05.000 I'm sorry, just.

01:30:05.000 Oh, we already have one started.

01:30:06.000 They just tried to kind of shut it down.

01:30:09.000 Okay.

01:30:09.000 And so your question is how to continue to navigate that?

01:30:12.000 Yeah, and like fight the school administration.

01:30:13.000 What is the school administration trying to do?

01:30:15.000 They're just.

01:30:16.000 They're just trying to, they just don't want us to, like, they've kind of stopped.

01:30:20.000 They won't let us have meetings.

01:30:22.000 Like, we weren't able to have meetings.

01:30:23.000 We weren't able to, you know, put posters up or set up like stands and stuff like that.

01:30:29.000 Okay, so just some people that live in Cave Creek should.

01:30:36.000 Yeah, so you said Alliance Defending Freedom.

01:30:38.000 I love them.

01:30:39.000 But this is different than just a lawsuit.

01:30:41.000 This is going to just take a couple of, trust me, these administrators are very, very weak.

01:30:45.000 I see, no, seriously, a couple emails and a phone call.

01:30:48.000 And we don't need to file a lawsuit.

01:30:50.000 Like, this is not lawsuit territory.

01:30:51.000 This is what, so there's two different things that happen here, right?

01:30:54.000 Where there's lawsuit territory and then just parents standing up.

01:30:57.000 The administrative roadblocks is 90% of what we deal with at turning point.

01:31:01.000 10% is legal.

01:31:03.000 And I'll tell you, the 90% is fixed if you just stand up, you're like, hey, stop bullying these kids, okay?

01:31:09.000 No one elected you.

01:31:10.000 Just let them do what they want to do.

01:31:11.000 Thank you so much.

01:31:12.000 It takes like five parents to say that.

01:31:14.000 Now, if they were to go make a big, like, public deal about it and try to block it, then we get into the legal domain.

01:31:19.000 But insofar that it's just kind of like, hey, they're making it hard.

01:31:22.000 It's annoying.

01:31:23.000 A couple parents rising up, sending some emails saying, they better not have any problems again or else we're going to show up in massive numbers at the Cave Creek School Board.

01:31:31.000 It fixes it like that.

01:31:32.000 So, and thank you for saying that, by the way.

01:31:34.000 It's terrific.

01:31:37.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

01:31:38.000 Email us your thoughtsfreedom at charliekirk.com.

01:31:40.000 And if you want to support us, go to charliekirk.com/slash support.

01:31:44.000 God bless you guys.

01:31:45.000 Speak to somebody.

01:31:48.000 Yeah.

The Charlie Kirk Show - May 16, 2021

Debunking the Left's Lie of a Secular American Founding—LIVE From Dream City Church

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