The Charlie Kirk Show - Debunking the Left's Lie of a Socialist 'Utopia'

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00:02:05.000 Hey, everybody, welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:02:08.000 I am personally super excited for this episode.

00:02:11.000 I'm excited for all my episodes, but this one in particular, I have my notepad and my pen ready to go because this man I have learned more about history from than I can say anyone else.

00:02:20.000 Bill Federer, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show officially.

00:02:24.000 Charlie, great to be with you.

00:02:25.000 You run AmericanMinute.com.

00:02:27.000 You are the walking encyclopedia of Western civilization and of history.

00:02:32.000 I've learned so much from you.

00:02:33.000 I read your email every morning.

00:02:35.000 And some people say, Charlie, where do you get your information?

00:02:38.000 Say, to know what's going on today, just go back in time a little bit.

00:02:42.000 And we've known each other for years, but just in the last 18 months in particular, I've just really grown an appreciation for the research you've been doing.

00:02:49.000 So Bill, tell us about the book you just wrote, and then we can go from there into current events or any direction this takes us.

00:02:54.000 Yeah, well, I tell people history is not prophetic, but it is predictive.

00:03:00.000 So past behavior is the best indicator of future performance.

00:03:03.000 So we can look back at the past and get a trajectory of where things are going.

00:03:08.000 And that's sort of what I do in this book called Socialism, The Real History from Plato to the Present.

00:03:13.000 For those that are not familiar with the book, Plato lived 380 BC in Athens.

00:03:18.000 It was a democracy, but he didn't really like a democracy.

00:03:23.000 In passing, Plato mentions several times of Atlantis, this highly advanced civilization that sinks in the sea.

00:03:32.000 But it was structured, and he liked that.

00:03:34.000 And he considered a democracy an unstructured society.

00:03:39.000 And he says the chief characteristic of a democracy is tolerance.

00:03:42.000 Everybody tolerates each other.

00:03:43.000 He calls it charming.

00:03:45.000 It's like an embroidery patchwork with lots of colors, like a bizarre marketplace where you can buy anything.

00:03:50.000 And then they tolerate people that are a little bit off.

00:03:53.000 And then they tolerate people that are a lot off.

00:03:55.000 So finally, they're tolerating crooks and crime and fraud and broad daylight looting and nobody does anything about it.

00:04:02.000 And then it creeps into their handling of finances and it's a democracy.

00:04:05.000 So they vote to spread the city treasury around and now the treasury is empty.

00:04:09.000 And then they vote to take the money from the rich people.

00:04:12.000 Now there's no rich people left.

00:04:13.000 And then there's a shortage and they begin to bicker and finally turns into chaos.

00:04:17.000 And the people begin to say, can't someone come along and fix this mess?

00:04:21.000 And that's when some governor comes along and says, I can fix it.

00:04:24.000 I just need some emergency powers.

00:04:27.000 And he says, at first, they're all smiles and charming, but then they finally stand in the chariot of state holding the reins of power and they're revealed as the tyrant.

00:04:35.000 And if anybody objects to their will, they have a pretense of destroying them.

00:04:41.000 And so here's Plato's scenarios: that democracy, without the people having morals and virtue, ends in domestic chaos out of which some tyrant usurps power.

00:04:52.000 And so that's the beginning model.

00:04:54.000 Then he says that it's inevitable because he says people really don't have morals and virtue.

00:04:59.000 He says, if you give them a choice of giving up their life or giving up their virtue, they'll always give up their virtue to save their life.

00:05:05.000 Now, ancient Israel's model had a big magnet in the sky called God.

00:05:10.000 And so people were virtuous for a little bit longer, went on a couple more centuries, but it finally cratered.

00:05:17.000 And then they got a king, a king Saul.

00:05:19.000 But in Plato's time, the people really didn't believe their deities were these fickle Greek personalities that nobody really believed in.

00:05:30.000 And so it wasn't like you're accountable to a God.

00:05:32.000 It was, and so Plato said, it's just a matter of time until this democracy experiment is going to end in this social chaos.

00:05:38.000 And so he said, the best you can hope for is a nice tyrant.

00:05:41.000 He called him a philosopher king.

00:05:43.000 He is the head of gold.

00:05:45.000 And his administrators, his deep state political crony enforcers, they are the arms and chest of silver.

00:05:51.000 Together, they make up the ruling class.

00:05:54.000 And everyone else is the abdomen of iron and bronze, and they are in the ruled class.

00:06:00.000 And so socialism is a structured society of a ruling class and a ruled class.

00:06:06.000 And Plato goes on.

00:06:07.000 He says, the ruled class own no property. 0.97

00:06:10.000 They have no privacy. 0.99

00:06:13.000 The government decides who gets to have kids.

00:06:15.000 The government takes the kids away from the parents before they've been affected with the habits of the parents.

00:06:19.000 They bring them into the city and indoctrinate them with noble lies.

00:06:23.000 Actually, he calls them lies.

00:06:25.000 He says, we want one grand lie, which will be believed by everybody.

00:06:30.000 Plato said that.

00:06:31.000 Plato said that, right?

00:06:32.000 In the Republic.

00:06:34.000 We want one grand lie, which will be believed by everybody.

00:06:38.000 And so that's the origin.

00:06:40.000 So when you study all socialism, it all goes back to Plato, the structured society.

00:06:46.000 I'm so glad you mentioned that, Bill.

00:06:47.000 So a mentor of mine also mentioned, he said that the line of socialism, it's not a complete line, went from Plato to Rousseau to Marx.

00:06:56.000 That's probably a good summarization of it.

00:06:59.000 It's not total, you know, it's not a perfect through line, but Plato was one of the first thinkers who, of course, learned under Socrates.

00:07:08.000 Socrates was killed.

00:07:10.000 Plato then taught Aristotle and Aristotle taught Alexander the Great, which is interesting kind of history that I learned from you.

00:07:18.000 I'm not telling you anything you don't know.

00:07:19.000 I'm just saying it for the audience's own benefit.

00:07:24.000 But Plato was really big into the abolition of private property and the destruction of the nuclear family and really creating.

00:07:35.000 Could you argue, Bill?

00:07:36.000 I guess I'm saying this and I'm asking myself the question the time.

00:07:38.000 Was he trying to create a utopia?

00:07:40.000 Was it an idea of trying to create almost a heaven on earth aspect?

00:07:46.000 Yeah, it was his ideal structured society.

00:07:50.000 And he lived in Athens.

00:07:52.000 As you mentioned, Socrates lived when there was a war and the Athens Navy fought, and the ships had some sailors fall in the water in the middle of the battle, and the admiral was not able to rescue all the sailors.

00:08:11.000 And they get back, and the people of Athens were so upset at this admiral for not rescuing the sailors that fell in the water that they got whipped up into a frenzy.

00:08:21.000 and then killed the admiral.

00:08:24.000 And Socrates saw this.

00:08:26.000 Basically, it just turned into this lynch mob.

00:08:29.000 And so Socrates' view of democracy was this mob rule.

00:08:34.000 And so that's why Plato did not like it.

00:08:36.000 And he says, it's just going to, it'll work for a while as long as it's in to be virtuous.

00:08:42.000 And then he goes through five steps.

00:08:43.000 He goes, first, it's in to be virtuous.

00:08:46.000 And the city-state will be run by lovers of principle and virtue.

00:08:52.000 And these are people that know how to run farms.

00:08:54.000 They know how to run businesses.

00:08:56.000 Maybe they know how to run really big businesses.

00:08:58.000 And they're lovers of principle and truth.

00:09:01.000 And they do a good job.

00:09:02.000 The city grows.

00:09:03.000 Then a second group wants to get involved in politics.

00:09:05.000 Plato called them lovers of fame.

00:09:07.000 These are people that have no real experience running anything.

00:09:10.000 They just somehow got famous, maybe a Greek actor or a Greek Olympic athlete, or maybe like a Hollywood action hero that gets to be governator of California.

00:09:20.000 And you think, you know, what did Arnold run before he became the governor?

00:09:25.000 Nothing.

00:09:26.000 He was just famous.

00:09:27.000 Now, Plato says these famous people, they love fame so much they hate being defamed.

00:09:33.000 So these you can manipulate with public opinion.

00:09:36.000 The first group, they're going to do what's right no matter what you say about them.

00:09:38.000 The second group, they'll bend when you say things about them.

00:09:42.000 And so since they don't know how to run stuff, they end up yielding to the human temptation of avarice or selfishness.

00:09:49.000 And they can't help but funnel a little money to their friends, a little money to their supporters, a little money to some brother-in-law's company.

00:09:55.000 And before you know it, it turns into a two-tiered society of the insider clique and then the outsiders. 1.00

00:10:04.000 And then Plato again says that they'll throw the bums out, set up a democracy, and it's charming. 0.99

00:10:09.000 And then finally, their democracy gets taken over by a tyrant. 0.99

00:10:13.000 But if we fast forward from Plato, 2,000 years, we go to Columbus discovering America.

00:10:20.000 20 years later, Sir Thomas More writes Island of Utopia.

00:10:24.000 It's a word utopia means nowhere.

00:10:26.000 It's a fictitious island off the coast of South America, supposedly discovered by Amerigo Vespucci.

00:10:32.000 And it's written as a Greek dialogue, right?

00:10:36.000 So Plato writes as a dialogue with Socrates. 0.50

00:10:38.000 Well, this is a dialogue with a guy named Hyphlodeus, which means peddler of nonsense.

00:10:43.000 And so this utopia, told by this peddler of nonsense, is a structured society of a ruling class and a ruled class.

00:10:51.000 And the ruled class, again, own no property.

00:10:55.000 Everything is stored in a communal warehouse. 1.00

00:10:57.000 They have no possessions.

00:11:01.000 Everyone lives in identical three-story houses.

00:11:03.000 There's no locks on any doors.

00:11:05.000 There's no alehouses or coffee houses or tea houses, no places for private meetings.

00:11:10.000 There's no privacy, none whatsoever.

00:11:13.000 The government tracks everybody everywhere you go with an internal passport.

00:11:17.000 If you're caught without it, it's a lifetime of slavery.

00:11:20.000 And the government decides who gets to have children.

00:11:23.000 And then the government takes the children away from the parents and indoctrinates them with lies and chooses their careers that they have to work the entire rest of their life.

00:11:34.000 This is utopia.

00:11:35.000 This is the island of utopia.

00:11:37.000 Now, that was 1516.

00:11:39.000 And Sir Thomas More wrote it as a veiled jab at Henry VIII, who was wanting to rule everyone's lives.

00:11:47.000 He switches from being Catholic to Protestant and then Anglican.

00:11:52.000 And so Sir Thomas More was killed by Henry VIII.

00:11:57.000 So anyway, but then we fast forward another century and you have Sir Francis Bacon.

00:12:02.000 He writes The New Atlantis.

00:12:04.000 So he's directly referring to Plato's Atlantis.

00:12:08.000 This is a fictitious, so this is the time of Shakespeare, Queen Elizabeth, that period, beginning of the scientific revolution.

00:12:16.000 And so Sir Francis Bacon.

00:12:17.000 has an island in the South Pacific off the coast of Peru.

00:12:22.000 And it's highly structured, a little more scientific careers that everybody's working, but it's still a structured society.

00:12:30.000 And someone wrote a satire on it, Jonathan Swift's Gulliver's Travels.

00:12:37.000 Right?

00:12:37.000 Gulliver is washed up on this island of Lilliput, and it's a structured society with this ridiculous ruling class and then everybody else that has their fates determined by that.

00:12:48.000 And now, why is this important? 1.00

00:12:50.000 The Pilgrims.

00:12:51.000 So the early 1600s, the Pilgrims were originally a company colony with bylaws written by investors that looked back to Plato, Sir Thomas More, Sir Francis Bacon.

00:13:01.000 And lo and behold, the Pilgrim bylaws said everything would be owned in common.

00:13:05.000 Everything would be gained by cooking, hunting, fishing, trading, jungle into ye common stock, and everyone's livelihood comes out of ye common stock.

00:13:12.000 And William Bradford said they almost starved to death.

00:13:14.000 He says the young men objected to doing twice as much work as the old guy, but didn't get paid anymore.

00:13:20.000 The old guy considered it an indignity to be classed in labor with the young men.

00:13:25.000 And then he says the women objected to having to wash other men's clothes.

00:13:30.000 And William Bradford said they almost starved to death.

00:13:33.000 So we had to come up with a fitter plan that gave everyone their own plot of land.

00:13:37.000 He said this made all hands more industrious. 0.94

00:13:40.000 The women now went willingly into the field and took their little ones with them, where before they would have led weakness and to have forced them would have been great oppression.

00:13:47.000 So here we have, and believe it or not, William Bradford, the governor of the Pilgrims, writes, he says that this experiment of communal service was tried by good and honest men and it failed, proving the emptiness of the theory of Plato applauded recently by scholars in Europe. 0.75

00:14:06.000 So the Pilgrims knew they were trying to act out this theoretical.

00:14:11.000 And so that's what socialism is.

00:14:13.000 It's a theoretical proposition that looks good on a chalkboard, but it fails miserably.

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00:15:30.000 And that was the big contrast between Plato and Aristotle.

00:15:33.000 And it is wonderfully summarized in that famous painting, I think, by Raphael, where Plato is pointing up and Aristotle is pointing to the ground, almost like Plato is dealing in the clouds and the ideal.

00:15:46.000 And Aristotle is saying, let's look what actually works.

00:15:49.000 Let's be more realistic.

00:15:50.000 That's where we get that word from.

00:15:52.000 Let's see what actual data shows us really what's happening.

00:15:55.000 And Aristotle being a scientist, Plato had the Academy and Aristotle had the Lyceum.

00:16:02.000 Is that right?

00:16:02.000 Yeah.

00:16:03.000 My history right there.

00:16:04.000 Yeah.

00:16:05.000 Where Aristotle being better versed in the actual applied sciences, a lot of our scientific method can be actually back to what Aristotle combined.

00:16:17.000 And you can see the kind of divergence here in a lot of different ways in the West of how we process the correct way to govern ourselves.

00:16:25.000 It's not a perfect fit, but Plato dealing much more in the theoretical, much more in the ideal.

00:16:31.000 You can see why so many university campuses are places of people that are filled with ideas that would never have any sort of applicability in the real world.

00:16:38.000 It almost doesn't concern them.

00:16:40.000 It would be much more, they'd worry much more about what would almost the, I want to say narrative, but what they would consider to be working on a chalkboard or in this kind of idea space.

00:16:53.000 And would you consider that to be a correct summaration?

00:16:56.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:16:57.000 And it goes from it goes from being a benign error to dangerous.

00:17:05.000 And now, when the COVID just happened, I couldn't help but see an article where some nature people had planned to go to Panama and they had some spot along the beach and they sort of lived like that survivor program.

00:17:18.000 You know, it was back to nature and they were going to have this wonderful time.

00:17:22.000 Well, then when COVID hit, Panama would not allow them to fly out of the country and they were trapped there.

00:17:29.000 And then it got to the place where they began to bicker amongst themselves and fight and say, no, don't take my stuff.

00:17:35.000 And, you know, and this is mine.

00:17:36.000 And they would end up, you know, long and short of it, this beautiful experiment of let's all go live back in nature turned into this gang of people bickering amongst themselves.

00:17:48.000 And so that's where socialism is this promised dream that delivers a nightmare.

00:17:56.000 It's a cultural bait and switch.

00:18:00.000 It promises heaven, delivers hell.

00:18:03.000 But it's always there.

00:18:04.000 It's the sirens.

00:18:07.000 So when Ulysses leaves and he's sailing through the island, the Greek islands, there's one of the islands where there are women that sing and they're called sirens.

00:18:18.000 We think of siren today as on an ambulance, but back then, these were pretty women that stood along the cliffs on the shore and would sing and the sailors would get close to hear them only to crash on the rocks.

00:18:31.000 And then all the villagers would come out and get all the stuff that was lost on the rocks.

00:18:35.000 And so this was the siren's song is this, it always sounds promising, but it ends up delivering death.

00:18:43.000 And that's what socialism is.

00:18:44.000 Now, if we fast forward to the French Revolution, so we have a revolution.

00:18:49.000 France has a revolution.

00:18:51.000 They helped us during our revolution.

00:18:53.000 And you know what they got in return?

00:18:55.000 Nothing but debt.

00:18:57.000 Here, they help us and they don't get any special trade rides.

00:19:00.000 They don't usually fight a big war, you get something in return.

00:19:04.000 France got nothing.

00:19:05.000 And then they had a couple of years where their crops failed and the people blamed King Louis XVI and his wife, Marie Antoinette.

00:19:13.000 She's the one where they told them the people didn't have cake or bread.

00:19:17.000 And she said, let them eat cake.

00:19:19.000 You know, that quote is debated, but yeah.

00:19:22.000 Yeah. 0.80

00:19:22.000 And so they decided to, if they could just chop off the king and queen's heads, their problems will be solved. 0.80

00:19:28.000 Well, they chop them off. 0.98

00:19:30.000 It doesn't get any better. 0.99

00:19:31.000 Then they decide if they can chop off the heads of all the royalty. 0.99

00:19:34.000 The problems will be solved. 1.00

00:19:35.000 Doesn't get any better. 1.00

00:19:36.000 Then they chop off the heads of all the wealthy. 0.93

00:19:38.000 They have money we don't. 0.99

00:19:39.000 They're selfish. 0.82

00:19:40.000 It doesn't get any better. 1.00

00:19:41.000 Then they chop off the heads of all the business owners and farmers.

00:19:44.000 They have food and supplies we don't.

00:19:45.000 Doesn't get any better.

00:19:46.000 Then they chop off the heads of the hoarders, the people that have extra stuff. 0.72

00:19:50.000 You got extra. 0.79

00:19:50.000 I don't have enough. 0.79

00:19:51.000 You're selfish. 0.97

00:19:52.000 Then they chopped off the heads of the preachers who in the clergy and whole orders of nuns because they were speaking out against the head chopping off stuff. 0.97

00:19:59.000 Then they chopped off the heads of the former revolutionaries, the ones that used to chop off heads, but got tired of it.

00:20:04.000 Somehow they're to blame.

00:20:05.000 They were purged.

00:20:06.000 40,000 people had their heads chopped off in Paris, France.

00:20:09.000 And then they sent their army to the Vendee and killed 300,000, the first modern genocide.

00:20:15.000 And so here we have this motto for the French Revolution was liberté egalité fraternité.

00:20:21.000 Liberty, equality, fraternity.

00:20:24.000 Fraternity was the French word for socialism.

00:20:26.000 It's the collective.

00:20:27.000 It's the group.

00:20:28.000 It's the fraternity.

00:20:29.000 And so equality can be understood two ways.

00:20:32.000 In America, it was equal treatment before the law, equal opportunity.

00:20:36.000 In France, it was everyone having an equal amount of stuff.

00:20:40.000 And if the fraternité, the group, thinks you have too much stuff, it can use the power of the state to take away your stuff and kill you.

00:20:49.000 And so that's what happened. 0.98

00:20:51.000 They chopped off all these heads and killed everybody. 0.78

00:20:53.000 And then what? 0.98

00:20:54.000 Democracy without morals and virtue ends in chaos.

00:20:56.000 And out of that, a Napoleon arose.

00:20:59.000 And then Napoleon conquers across Europe, and six million people die.

00:21:04.000 And one of the places Napoleon conquered was Prussia, a German kingdom.

00:21:09.000 And the king afterwards said, we can't let that happen again.

00:21:12.000 We need to strengthen the state.

00:21:14.000 And so he gets a philosopher named Hegel at the University of Berlin.

00:21:19.000 And Hegel says, the state is God walking on earth.

00:21:22.000 The state is our mortal God.

00:21:24.000 All the work that a human being has, he has only through the state.

00:21:27.000 And so a student at the University of Berlin was Karl Marx.

00:21:34.000 And so now, this is the sort of the second phase of my book.

00:21:39.000 Hegel said he wanted to concentrate power into the state so it won't be conquered by another Napoleon.

00:21:46.000 And so he comes up with something called Hegelian or Hegelian dialectics.

00:21:51.000 And it's a triangle.

00:21:53.000 And we've talked about this before in our program, but it's very complicated.

00:21:56.000 If you can explain the Hegelian dialectic, God bless you, please.

00:22:01.000 I'll learn alongside our listeners.

00:22:03.000 I could do an okay job of it.

00:22:05.000 So it's a triangle.

00:22:06.000 One corner is a thesis.

00:22:08.000 The opposite corner is an anti-thesis or antithesis.

00:22:11.000 And the top corner is the synthesis.

00:22:14.000 It's really simple.

00:22:15.000 You start off with the status quo.

00:22:17.000 You create a problem that's real bad, and everybody's happy to settle for your answer.

00:22:21.000 That's half as bad.

00:22:22.000 And then that becomes the new thesis starting point.

00:22:25.000 And then you create another problem that's real bad, and everybody settles for your answer.

00:22:28.000 That's half as bad.

00:22:29.000 That becomes the new starting point.

00:22:30.000 You create another problem that's real bad.

00:22:32.000 Everybody settles for the answer.

00:22:33.000 It's half as bad.

00:22:34.000 You keep doing this.

00:22:35.000 And at each crisis, people surrender a little bit more of their independence, their freedoms, their rights in exchange to have this real bad crisis just be a semi-bad crisis, right?

00:22:47.000 And so Karl Marx, who was a member of the young Hegelians at the University of Berlin, Berlin, Karl Marx says, well, how do you create an antithesis?

00:22:57.000 You send in agitators, agent provocateurs, community organizers, labor organizers.

00:23:02.000 Their job is to identify groups with grievances and stir them into rioting.

00:23:07.000 And it was, they'd be the proletariat against the bourgeois, which is the working class against the business owners. 0.53

00:23:12.000 They'd organize the blacks against the whites, the Muslims against the Christians, the Catholics against the Protestants, even the Hutus against the Tutsis in the Congo and Rwanda. 0.57

00:23:21.000 They really don't care who the two sides are and they really don't care what the issues are. 0.55

00:23:25.000 Their goal is a destabilizing crisis that makes everyone panic that they give up their freedoms so that some dictator can usurp power.

00:23:32.000 And so this model was used over and over again.

00:23:38.000 And it's interesting, and interrupt me at any time, that Britain used a variation of this to take over India.

00:23:47.000 So 1714, the British lands in Bengal, and they open up a trading post that turns into a fort.

00:23:53.000 That's filled full of guns, and then they give guns to one kingdom, and then they give guns to another kingdom.

00:23:59.000 Then they stir up ancient animosities and the two kingdoms fight and beat each other up, and when they're all worn out, the British come in and conquer both. 0.66

00:24:06.000 And then they did it again and again and again until they took over all of India. 0.51

00:24:09.000 A quarter of the world's population came underneath British control through this.

00:24:13.000 They tried doing it in America when they would incite the natives on the frontiers to butcher the people on the the, the frontiers during the you know, the revolution, the War Of 1812.

00:24:24.000 And so this idea that you go in and identify groups with grievances and you stir them up to riot and that's, and that's similar to what's happening today in America.

00:24:35.000 They the, the left, they are trying to kind of re-embody the teachings of the young Hegelians, maybe a little bit Antonio Gramshean there too, of Cultural Marxism.

00:24:45.000 But there definitely is an idea of trying to turn people against each other intentionally and then try to have a new starting point.

00:24:52.000 And Hegel was intentionally hard to read.

00:24:56.000 I have not read Hegel.

00:24:57.000 I have.

00:24:57.000 I understand some of what he said.

00:24:59.000 I admit to it.

00:25:00.000 Um, I have no interest.

00:25:03.000 I just say interest.

00:25:03.000 I have no capacity or the patience to read the Phenomenology of Spirit, not exactly something that you've probably read it and you probably can read it in the original German.

00:25:12.000 But Hegel was a huge inspiration because he was a systemic thinker uh, similar to Immanuel Kant, similar to some of the kind of really big um, kind of just landscape altering thinkers of the Post-Renaissance period.

00:25:30.000 He introduced a new system of thinking and so can you now bring us to so Marx learned under Hegel?

00:25:38.000 Rousseau also really impacted Marx as far as valuing the primitive over the civilized, the infant over the adult, the Collective OVER private.

00:25:49.000 Uh, Jean-jacque Rousseau being a French philosopher who I believe was before the French Revolution, am I correct right?

00:25:56.000 He's actually called the father of the French Revolution, and?

00:26:00.000 But you got your stuff down.

00:26:01.000 Great, i'm very impressed.

00:26:02.000 And I read the American Minute.

00:26:04.000 That's why i'm not going to.

00:26:07.000 One of the quotes from Rousseau is, he said, this is Jean-jacque Rousseau in his book the social contract.

00:26:14.000 He says, if the state says to an individual, it is expedient for the state that you should die, that individual should die because his life is a gift made conditionally by the state.

00:26:24.000 So say that again.

00:26:26.000 So this is Jean-jacques Rousseau.

00:26:28.000 And he says in the social contract, if the state says to an individual, it is expedient for the state that you should die, That individual should die because his life is a gift made conditionally by the state.

00:26:44.000 And so, there are, yeah, that's really important because there are different ways to view the social contract.

00:26:51.000 The three big thinkers when it comes to social contract would be Thomas Hobbes, then it would be Jean-Jacques Rousseau and John Locke.

00:26:58.000 They all had a different opinion of what our social contract would be, but this actually applies to today's politics because the left in America, they would agree with Rousseau's opinion.

00:27:10.000 They would say, if the state deems you unnecessary, of course we can eliminate you.

00:27:14.000 Yeah, you know, it's interesting when you look at four steps.

00:27:17.000 The first step is the pilgrims.

00:27:19.000 So, after they scrapped their company bylaws, they instituted a covenant form of government.

00:27:28.000 Now, what's a covenant?

00:27:29.000 It's like a triangle in the sense that it's people in agreement with each other, but it's more than just an agreement, it's a commitment to each other.

00:27:39.000 So, it's people committed to caring for each other.

00:27:42.000 Why?

00:27:42.000 Because they're all individually accountable to God and they get their individual rights from God.

00:27:47.000 So, it's like a triangle.

00:27:48.000 You got God at the top, you get the God giving rights to individuals.

00:27:52.000 The people are committed to caring for each other because they're personally accountable to this God at the top.

00:27:57.000 The next century after the Pilgrims is the age of enlightenment, and this is where covenant turns into social contract, and it's just people in agreement with each other.

00:28:11.000 And if God is there, he's distant.

00:28:14.000 So, this comes out of the scientific revolution where you have Sir Isaac Newton discovering laws of planetary motion, laws of gravity, and Kepler's laws of planetary motion, and Robert Boyle's laws of pressure.

00:28:28.000 And so, some theologians said, Well, gee, maybe God made everything with laws.

00:28:33.000 And, like a guy winds up a clock and sets it on the shelf, everything is just following these gears and laws.

00:28:38.000 And so, if God is there, he is distant, he's impersonal, he's not involved in our lives.

00:28:44.000 And the ultimate of this is God is some impersonal force in the universe, right?

00:28:48.000 So, we go from this pilgrim covenant where you're intimately committed to caring for each other because you're personally accountable to a God.

00:28:56.000 Then, the next century, covenant turns into social contract with a distant God.

00:29:00.000 Next century turns into the French Revolution, which is a social contract with no God, intentionally no God.

00:29:08.000 They actually didn't want done in the year of the Lord, so they made 1792 the new year one. 0.53

00:29:14.000 They didn't want a seven-day week with a Sabbath rest because it went to the Bible.

00:29:18.000 So, they came up with a 10-day week called a decade week.

00:29:21.000 Each day had 10 hours, each hour had 100 minutes, each minute had 100 seconds.

00:29:26.000 They said that 10 was the number of man with you count with 10 fingers.

00:29:31.000 So, they made every measurement in France divisible by 10.

00:29:35.000 They called it the metric system.

00:29:38.000 Maybe that's why I never really liked the metric system, but it was an intention.

00:29:42.000 Is that really how they came up?

00:29:44.000 I didn't know that was the origination of the metric system.

00:29:46.000 Yeah, they made every measurement divisible by 10 because that's the number of men because you have 10 fingers that you count with.

00:29:52.000 And then Napoleon spreads this all around Europe.

00:29:55.000 And so, for 14 years, the French Republic is using French Revolution time.

00:30:02.000 They rename the months, they renamed the days of the week because you got these decade weeks.

00:30:08.000 And so, France is they turned churches into temples of reason.

00:30:13.000 Robespierre, the, you know, was the head of their Maximilian Robespierre. 0.59

00:30:19.000 And he put a prostitute in Notre Dame Cathedral, covered her with a sheet, and said, This is the goddess of reason. 0.84

00:30:25.000 Let's worship her. 0.96

00:30:26.000 I mean, they intentionally wanted to erase God. 0.57

00:30:30.000 Dug up the bones of Saint Genevieve, the young woman that got all of Paris to fast and pray back in 450 AD when Attila the Hun was scourging Europe. 0.94

00:30:41.000 And this was run by the Jacobins. 0.82

00:30:43.000 Right. 0.80

00:30:43.000 So the Jacobeans were like the Antifa BLM. 0.80

00:30:47.000 I mean, they were the great comparison. 0.99

00:30:49.000 Tear everything down, tear everything down, tear everything out.

00:30:49.000 Build that out.

00:30:52.000 And then somehow, miraculously, some good's going to come out of this mess you just made.

00:30:56.000 When, in fact, all that happens is a Napoleon seizes power or some dictator or some tyrant.

00:31:02.000 And so what we see is we go from pilgrim covenant with the personal God to the Age of Enlightenment social contract with a distant God to the French Revolution social contract with no God to Marxism and socialism where the state is God.

00:31:18.000 That's such a perfect comparison.

00:31:20.000 That's a great way to lay that out.

00:31:23.000 So all the social contract stuff is great, but they always get rid of God.

00:31:29.000 And now, why is that important that we have God in there?

00:31:32.000 If there is no God, then your rights come from the state.

00:31:37.000 And what the state giveth, the state can take away.

00:31:42.000 And there's a great quote from Eisenhower.

00:31:44.000 He said, in some lands, the state claims to be the author of human rights.

00:31:47.000 If the state gives rights, it can and inevitably will take away those rights.

00:31:52.000 He goes on, our founding fathers had to refer to the creator in order to make the revolutionary experiment make sense.

00:31:58.000 In other words, we had to go above the king's head.

00:32:01.000 We went above the pharaoh's head, above Caesar's head.

00:32:03.000 We said, we have rights that come from a creator that no government on earth can take away.

00:32:08.000 As a matter of fact, the government's job is to protect our God-given rights.

00:32:12.000 But if there is no God, you don't have any rights to give you.

00:32:17.000 And then the state becomes God.

00:32:20.000 So what would your argument then be to the counter, as someone would say, who would be more in the, let's say, David Hume category, where they would believe in enlightenment values?

00:32:33.000 They would say, no, your rights are based in nature.

00:32:37.000 Not nature's God, but this is kind of a very, this is a new kind of belief that has really taken root in some atheist communities, where they say it's not the state, it's just who you are in the natural condition.

00:32:49.000 John Locke would sympathize with this, but John Locke, being a Christian, would disagree with it.

00:32:54.000 Can you reinforce how it's only a rights giver that could give you rights? 0.83

00:32:59.000 It's not an accident and how imperative that is to keep our civilization intact.

00:33:04.000 Right.

00:33:04.000 So Nietzsche, who's the God is dead type of philosopher, he criticized the other atheists in England, saying that you're basically living off the fumes of Christianity.

00:33:17.000 That you're saying he was talking at Hume, basically, right?

00:33:20.000 Yeah.

00:33:21.000 He was saying that you're saying that if you don't have a God, that you'll be a moral person.

00:33:27.000 But he says the morals that you're holding up are Judeo-Christian morals.

00:33:32.000 And why are you bothering holding up those Judeo-Christian morals if there is no Judeo-Christian?

00:33:37.000 If there is no God, why are you? 0.71

00:33:38.000 So the fact that you even identify good as a doing to others as you would have them do unto you, you're still following the residual leftovers of a Judeo-Christian culture. 0.88

00:33:54.000 So even when, and then I keep going back to Plato. 0.91

00:33:57.000 If someone says, oh, we'll be good, it's like, okay, I'm going to give you a choice.

00:34:03.000 You maintain your goodness or you die, right?

00:34:07.000 People will give up their morals.

00:34:09.000 They'll give up their virtue.

00:34:10.000 If their life is on the line, they're going to say, okay, I'm holding these personal values, but if I'm going to die for it, forget the values. 0.52

00:34:19.000 Whereas in the Judeo-Christian model, you're going to keep those values because you're accountable in the next life to this God who wants you to be truthful, that wants you to be honest, that wants you to be fair.

00:34:31.000 You're trusting him with your life, right?

00:34:34.000 And so when they say, well, we don't need God, we'll just be good.

00:34:38.000 It's like, no, if you get rid of God, if you really believe that, go into an inner city, take out your wallet, and set it on the sidewalk and come back the next day, see if it's still there.

00:34:51.000 Most people, if there's no consequence for their action, they will yield to their selfish side.

00:34:58.000 And this goes all the way back to Cain, killing Abel.

00:35:01.000 It's just part of selfish human nature.

00:35:04.000 So selfishness is the default setting for human nature.

00:35:07.000 And to pull away from that, you need consequence.

00:35:14.000 I don't want to get too philosophical, but Montesquieu was a French political philosopher.

00:35:18.000 He was a French judge.

00:35:20.000 And he was the most quoted of the writers by the founding fathers of anybody other than the Bible.

00:35:29.000 So this Montesquieu had a big impact on the founders.

00:35:33.000 And he divided governments into three.

00:35:37.000 He was inspired by Cicero a lot.

00:35:40.000 And so different philosophers divide governments differently.

00:35:46.000 But Montesquieu's model was republic, monarch, despot.

00:35:50.000 So he says republics are based where the people are the king and the people have to have virtue.

00:35:58.000 He calls it a spring, but it's more or less the electricity that runs through a republic that makes it come alive is the people having virtue.

00:36:06.000 And he goes, this is most prevalent in the northern Protestant countries of Europe.

00:36:12.000 He says, a monarch, he says that they motivate people through honor and shame, honor, shame, culture. 0.52

00:36:20.000 You do what the monarch says.

00:36:21.000 You get to be a sir or a knight.

00:36:23.000 You get some land.

00:36:24.000 You don't do what the monarch said.

00:36:25.000 He strips you of your titles and you're ridiculed and ostracized.

00:36:30.000 And he says that virtue is not necessary for a monarchy, that you will do what brings you honor, even if it's a little bit illegal.

00:36:40.000 If you get honored for it, it's okay.

00:36:42.000 And he says that the monarchs are most visible in the Catholic countries of Europe.

00:36:48.000 He says a religion with a visible head is more likely to want to have a government with a visible head.

00:36:53.000 Now, what's the difference between a monarch and a despot?

00:36:56.000 A monarch still has strings attached.

00:36:59.000 He still can be accountable to a God that wants him to be fair because, you know, he's going to be judged in the next life.

00:37:07.000 And so the king still, he's not totally free, but a despot, according to Montesquieu, is a string, is a king with no strings attached.

00:37:18.000 And he just rules by his whims and caprices.

00:37:20.000 He can wake up one day and decide to chop somebody's head off and wake up another day and decide to take somebody's life.

00:37:26.000 And he says, despots are most prevalent in Muslim countries like the Ottoman Empire.

00:37:32.000 And he says that the electricity, what he called the spring that makes the despot work is fear. 0.82

00:37:39.000 Fear is the motivating factor why everybody obeys the despot.

00:37:43.000 And if you think of it, the republic, monarch, despot model, it's almost like a spirit, mind, and body.

00:37:50.000 So the republic, the people are virtuous.

00:37:54.000 You feel safe because everybody has virtue and you're doing what's right because you're going to be rewarded or punished in the next life.

00:38:01.000 The monarch is through shame and honor.

00:38:06.000 That's more of a mental thing or in the soulish realm.

00:38:09.000 And then the despots motivate through pleasure and pain.

00:38:13.000 You do what he says, you get a harem.

00:38:15.000 You don't do what he says, you get your hand chopped off, right?

00:38:18.000 And so it's sort of a spirit, mind, and body, but it's positive and negative motivations.

00:38:23.000 One's in the next life, one's in the mental realm, and one's in the physical realm.

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00:40:15.000 It's incredible.

00:40:16.000 And I think that what's, if you, if you read the Federalist papers, no person was more influential to the founding and the formation of government than Montesquieu.

00:40:28.000 And maybe John Locke from a philosophical standpoint, maybe.

00:40:32.000 But Montesquieu in Spirit of Laws, I think is the name of the book that he wrote, was a French judge.

00:40:38.000 And Madison had a great quote about Montesquieu saying he called him the oracle.

00:40:45.000 Madison called Montesquieu the Oracle.

00:40:47.000 Anyway, we're getting very philosophical, which is very important.

00:40:50.000 But can you bring it back to kind of what we're living through today?

00:40:53.000 What parts of history do you think are most instructive to make sense of what we're living through today?

00:41:00.000 Well, if we pick up with Hegel, and then we had Karl Marx.

00:41:05.000 And then let's go to Germany and we'll go to the 1920s.

00:41:10.000 And we have, it's a republic, the Weimar Republic.

00:41:13.000 And it's a bottom-up form of government, right?

00:41:16.000 The people are involved in their government.

00:41:17.000 And then you have someone start a political party.

00:41:19.000 It's called the National Socialist Workers' Party, or Nazi, and the head of it is Adolf Hitler. 0.58

00:41:25.000 And he has his brown shirts, which is a BLM antifa type of KKK group that goes and does the violence. 0.58

00:41:32.000 And these brown shirts are nicknamed stormtroopers, Sturm Abteilung, which means stormtrooper. 0.72

00:41:38.000 And they would storm into the meetings of Hitler's opponents and shot down the speakers and disrupt the meeting. 0.57

00:41:42.000 And then they would lock arms and block access to buildings. 0.55

00:41:46.000 You can even see pictures of them.

00:41:48.000 And then, you know, could you imagine people locking arms and blocking things?

00:41:52.000 And then they went into the cities and they smashed the windows and looted and set on fire over 7,000 Jewish stores in the downtown cities in Kristal Nach, the night of broken glass.

00:42:06.000 And in this confusion, the people panic, right?

00:42:09.000 So you have a republic without morals and virtue ends in this panic, this chaos, and they want someone to come along.

00:42:15.000 Hitler usurps power, declares himself the Führer, and then what happened is their government transitions from a republic to a dictatorship. 0.55

00:42:27.000 So, this idea that you have your group go in there and create the crises. 0.51

00:42:32.000 So, in times of crises, people automatically give up their freedoms.

00:42:36.000 And this model is: let's speed it along by intentionally creating crisis.

00:42:41.000 And then it comes a little bit closer to home after World War II.

00:42:44.000 You have Germany, France, England give independence to their former colonies.

00:42:48.000 And they start brand new countries with brand new leaders, and they're climbing out of the post-war crisis.

00:42:53.000 And it's a promising world, except the Soviet Union decides it doesn't just want communism to run itself, it wants it to run the world. 0.62

00:43:03.000 And so, they began to send KGB agents into these brand new emerging countries, and they would identify groups with grievances, ethnically, maybe Croats and Bosnians and Serbs. 0.69

00:43:14.000 Rhodesia, yeah, religiously with Sunni Shia Orthodox, or racially or economically, doesn't matter.

00:43:23.000 They would break them into groups of victims and oppressors, haves and have-nots. 0.88

00:43:27.000 And then they would stage protests that they would escalate into riots and violence.

00:43:31.000 And then they would co-opt the media with bribes and threats to blame the new leader of the new country for all the problems.

00:43:39.000 And then they would cultivate weak links in the military. 0.76

00:43:42.000 And when the country got panicky enough, they would do a coup or a rigged election and replace the leader with a Soviet puppet. 0.79

00:43:49.000 And then the violence would stop for a while until the dust settles and they realize they just gave up their bottom-up form of government, republic, and now they're ruled top-down by a Soviet dictator. 0.81

00:44:00.000 And they would even co-opt the media and have it release false polling data prior to a rigged election, showing the popular leader as unpopular. 0.74

00:44:13.000 So when they would do the coup, nobody would question it.

00:44:16.000 Geez, what are some examples of that?

00:44:19.000 Well, Lithuania and Poland and Hungary and Bulgaria and Romania and Syria.

00:44:27.000 And so 45 countries fell to communism this way.

00:44:29.000 Now, Truman does nothing.

00:44:31.000 He thinks the United Nations that he helped form will bring world peace.

00:44:35.000 But the next president's Eisenhower.

00:44:36.000 He's faced with a question. 0.57

00:44:39.000 Do nothing and let the communists take over or fight fire with fire.

00:44:42.000 And so Iran sides with the Soviet Union and nationalizes their oil.

00:44:47.000 And you think, well, big deal.

00:44:48.000 Wait a second.

00:44:49.000 Britain has no oil.

00:44:52.000 There's no oil fields in Britain.

00:44:53.000 And so in 1908, they formed the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company, right?

00:44:59.000 You got sort of large of Arabia, right?

00:45:01.000 The British are over there in the Middle East.

00:45:03.000 And you know the Anglo-Iranian oil company better by the name BP or British Petroleum.

00:45:11.000 British Petroleum is the Anglo-Iranian oil company.

00:45:14.000 And so when Mazadek, the leader of Iran, sides with the Soviet Union in 1953 and nationalizes the oil industry, Britain's out of oil.

00:45:22.000 So they appealed to Eisenhower, who approves the first CIA operation to overthrow a country's leader.

00:45:27.000 It's Operation Ajax.

00:45:29.000 And they went over and sent Kermit Roosevelt Jr., the grandson of Teddy Roosevelt.

00:45:36.000 He's an expert in foreign languages.

00:45:38.000 He's the CIA operative that goes to Tehran. 1.00

00:45:41.000 And he recruits mobsters and gangsters and radical imams. 0.90

00:45:44.000 And he stages protests and riots.

00:45:46.000 They begin to attack mosques and co-ops the media with bribes and threats and cultivate weak links in the military. 0.83

00:45:52.000 And when the country got panicky enough, they marched in, put Mazda under house arrest, locked him away for the rest of his life where he died, and they installed the Shah. 0.87

00:46:01.000 And the Shah loved America because we helped put him in. 0.85

00:46:03.000 And the CIA did the same thing in Guatemala, 1954, the Congo, 1960, Dominican Republic in Chile, 1973. 0.67

00:46:10.000 And the KGB did the same thing with Brezhnev helping Yasser Arafat to start the PLO and Brezhnev hugging Castro and helping him take over Cuba and Mugabe and the FARC and Colombia and Venezuela and Latin South America.

00:46:28.000 They had over 100 different coups and coup attempts in African countries and then the Chinese doing the same thing in the Far East.

00:46:34.000 This is called the Cold War. 0.54

00:46:38.000 And the only difference this time around is these tactics seem to be taking place on our own soil.

00:46:45.000 That under the previous president, not just was the IRS co-opted and used for political purposes, with Lois Lerner being in the president's office 147 times, and then she turned it into this agency to go after conservative groups.

00:47:01.000 It wasn't just the using of the LGBT agenda to drive traditional valued people out of the military and co-opting it.

00:47:10.000 It wasn't just co-opting, you know, the DOJ with Eric Holder, you know, doing fast and fear is giving guns to drug gangs in Mexico. 0.67

00:47:21.000 We began to see that there are people in these government agencies that do not like President Trump.

00:47:29.000 And they've been working for four years to try to get rid of him with a false Russian narrative and a false Ukrainian extortion narrative.

00:47:38.000 And it just seems like they've just stepped it up one notch higher and used this.

00:47:45.000 You don't have pallets of bricks being dropped off right where they're going to have a ride.

00:47:49.000 I spoke in Emporia, Kansas.

00:47:51.000 I mean, and they said, gee, they were going to have a peaceful protest and someone dropped off a pallet of bricks right and there was no construction going on in that area.

00:48:01.000 Somebody just happened to drop.

00:48:02.000 This was a tremendous amount of coordination that happened all across the country.

00:48:07.000 And, you know, I'm from St. Louis, which is 30 miles from Ferguson.

00:48:13.000 I actually spoke in Ferguson quite a number of times.

00:48:16.000 And it's the First Baptist church in Ferguson.

00:48:19.000 And 99% of the people riding in Ferguson were not from Ferguson. 0.65

00:48:23.000 They were brought in by Moore, M-O-R-E, Missourians Organizing for Reform and Empowerment.

00:48:29.000 And you can Google it.

00:48:30.000 Moore got $33 million from George Soros.

00:48:33.000 And they had their trainings in inner city churches and they would train them how to, you know, lock arms and block highway, you know, 44.

00:48:41.000 And they would train them how to give emotional, tear-filled addresses when someone shoves a camera in their face.

00:48:46.000 You know, well, we were just standing in the middle of the highway.

00:48:49.000 This car rammed into us.

00:48:51.000 And anyway, after the rioting, they were promised $5,000 a person for trashing Ferguson and they weren't paid right away.

00:48:58.000 So they took over the Moore headquarter office and they started a hashtag cut the check campaign.

00:49:05.000 And it began to get legs.

00:49:07.000 Even the city consul in St. Louis condemned them for doing this and everything.

00:49:11.000 And then before the story went national, they hurried up and cut the check and paid them off.

00:49:14.000 It was a rent them off.

00:49:16.000 And they moved the same people in ball, you know, oh, Charlotte, North Carolina, and Milwaukee and, you know, these different things.

00:49:26.000 But here you have this model that we've seen being used all the way back to the brown shirts and all the way back to, you know, the KGB and so forth.

00:49:39.000 These tactics under the previous administration have been seem to have been co-opted by the deep state against the current president.

00:49:52.000 And so what piece of history do you think can be most instructive for us how to solve this and remedy this?

00:49:59.000 Exposure is one of the first things.

00:50:01.000 You know, that the first thing is to shine light on the problem and all the cockroaches run away.

00:50:08.000 That truth is the antidote to the lies.

00:50:12.000 And so that's the first thing I think is important.

00:50:16.000 The second thing is realizing that it's the people that are the king.

00:50:21.000 A republic is where the people are king, ruling through representatives.

00:50:25.000 So we pledge allegiance to the flag and to the republic.

00:50:28.000 We're basically pledging allegiance to us being in charge of ourselves.

00:50:32.000 And so when somebody protests the flag, what they're saying is, I don't want to be the king anymore.

00:50:36.000 I protest this system where I participate in ruling myself.

00:50:39.000 It's like, really?

00:50:40.000 Right?

00:50:41.000 We have to remind ourselves that we are in charge and the politicians are our servants.

00:50:47.000 We hire them, we fire them, we vote them in, we vote them out, that they need to obey us.

00:50:53.000 And when you look up the word usurping, usurping is where somebody does something they're not authorized to do, and people let them get away with it.

00:51:04.000 And if you let them get away with it for long, that becomes the new goalpost.

00:51:09.000 It's like Sandlot football.

00:51:10.000 Oh, you're out of bounds.

00:51:11.000 No, no, no, the boundary's over here, right?

00:51:14.000 Well, you all played that, you know, and then they said, okay, okay, that's the new boundary.

00:51:17.000 Then the next time, no, no, no, the boundary is over here.

00:51:19.000 They keep moving, and that's called usurpation.

00:51:22.000 And it only happens when people are apathetic and they don't get involved.

00:51:29.000 I completely agree with all of that.

00:51:31.000 And so, how can people learn more about your American Minute?

00:51:35.000 And by the way, Bill, you're going to be coming up on our program many times, but how can people subscribe to American Minute and get behind what you're doing?

00:51:42.000 Well, thank you, Charlie.

00:51:43.000 First of all, it's a real honored to be on with you.

00:51:45.000 And you're brilliant and you're articulate.

00:51:48.000 And I'm trying to learn.

00:51:51.000 That's all I'll admit.

00:51:53.000 I'm 63 now, and I can tell that I, when I listen to you talk, especially in an interview with you and Ben Shapiro, it's like, man, it's lightning fast, shooting back and forth.

00:52:05.000 Like, man, how can you think so fast?

00:52:07.000 So, so it's a real honor to be on.

00:52:09.000 My website's AmericanMinute.com, and I send out little history things to try to bring focus.

00:52:16.000 One of my favorite quotes is from Arthur Schlesinger Jr., and he was a Pulitzer Prize-winning historian on John F. Kennedy's staff.

00:52:24.000 And the quote is: History is to the nation what memory is to the individual.

00:52:29.000 So, if you can imagine an individual who has lost their memory, maybe they have Alzheimer's, it's an older person, and they forgot who they are, they forgot who you are.

00:52:36.000 It's really sad.

00:52:38.000 Anybody can take anything away from them.

00:52:40.000 We sort of have national Alzheimer's.

00:52:43.000 Here we are, the freest country the planet Earth has ever seen with more individual opportunity and choices.

00:52:48.000 And we forgot how we got here.

00:52:50.000 We forgot who we are.

00:52:52.000 And we're blindly staring off into space while some, you know, nursing home person just begins to take all of our freedoms out of our hands. 0.93

00:53:01.000 And so, sometimes when we tell these stories and you are great at it, it's like that little flicker comes back into people's eyes.

00:53:09.000 Like, oh, that's who I am.

00:53:11.000 That's who you are.

00:53:12.000 That's what America is all about.

00:53:15.000 Yeah, that's well said.

00:53:18.000 Well, Bill, thank you for your commitment to our country and for explaining this history for us.

00:53:24.000 And we're going to have to have you back on very soon.

00:53:26.000 So, well, it's an honor to be on.

00:53:28.000 And people say history repeats itself.

00:53:30.000 Really, just human nature repeats itself.

00:53:32.000 And history is the record of that.

00:53:34.000 So, we study human nature, and you can pretty well just all technology does is magnify.

00:53:40.000 You get a good person like yourself, they'll use it for good.

00:53:43.000 You get a person that is not good, they'll use all this fancy technology for something wrong.

00:53:48.000 So, technology just magnifies what's in the human heart, and history is the record of that.

00:53:53.000 So, amen.

00:53:54.000 Bill, God bless you.

00:53:55.000 AmericanMinute.com.

00:53:56.000 Speak to you soon.

00:53:57.000 Thank you.

00:54:01.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:54:03.000 If you want to get involved with Turning Point USA, go to tpusa.com.

00:54:07.000 Email us your questions, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:54:09.000 If you want to support us, go to charliekirk.com/slash support.

00:54:12.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:54:14.000 God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - December 17, 2020

Debunking the Left's Lie of a Socialist 'Utopia'

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