The Charlie Kirk Show - Defeating the Dangerous Religion of Leftism with Kelly Shackelford

00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody.

00:00:01.000 I had some great conversations recently with my friend Kelly Shackelford from First Liberty, great organization.

00:00:07.000 I love what they do.

00:00:08.000 I encourage you to listen to this episode and email me your thoughts about it, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:00:12.000 If you want to support us, go to charliekirk.com/slash support.

00:00:16.000 If you want to get involved with Turning Point USA, go to tpusa.com.

00:00:19.000 Buckle up, everybody.

00:00:20.000 Here, we go.

00:00:21.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:00:23.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

00:00:25.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:00:28.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:00:32.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:00:33.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:00:34.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

00:00:42.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

00:00:51.000 That's why we are here.

00:00:55.000 I want to start with a lot of people know who you are, but how did Charlie Kirk get to be Charlie Kirk?

00:01:01.000 I mean, who really influenced you?

00:01:04.000 Who really had an impact on your life that kind of really brought you to who you are?

00:01:09.000 Well, first of all, Kelly, I'm honored to be here, and it's great to be here in person with so many of you.

00:01:14.000 And this is terrific.

00:01:16.000 So, and I want to make sure I say this.

00:01:19.000 First Liberty is one of the few organizations I give a full endorsement behind.

00:01:24.000 I run Turning Point USA.

00:01:26.000 I know what it takes to run an organization.

00:01:28.000 And I also know the difference between an organization that does a lot of talking and a lot of doing, and First Liberty does a lot of doing.

00:01:35.000 And this is a great, I was first really made aware of First Liberty when I came out and saw you guys in Colorado last year.

00:01:42.000 I'm invited to speak all across the country.

00:01:43.000 I literally give 300 speeches a year.

00:01:46.000 And I started to hear Kelly.

00:01:47.000 I said, this guy really understands this issue, and he's able to prove what he's actually doing about it, not just writing a bunch of papers about it and then complaining.

00:01:55.000 And I'm a big believer that we need to be people of action, not just kind of recirculating the same sort of ideas of the last 40 years.

00:02:02.000 So I just want to say First Liberty is a phenomenal investment for getting behind what matters in our country.

00:02:08.000 And I really believe if we lose the rule of law in America, we lose everything.

00:02:12.000 And we could build out that idea further.

00:02:14.000 But it's all we have that stands between the despots and free people basically is a fair and impartial judiciary, judges that know what they're doing, and the Constitution and the framework behind it.

00:02:27.000 So thrilled to be here.

00:02:28.000 As far as my upbringing, born and raised in Chicago, Illinois.

00:02:31.000 Anyone from Chicago here?

00:02:33.000 It's a great place to be from.

00:02:35.000 In Illinois, we have term limits, unlike California, where it's one term in office, one term in jail.

00:02:41.000 So it's a little bit different than most states.

00:02:44.000 My grandmother passed away in the mid-1990s, lifelong Republican.

00:02:48.000 She's been voting Democrat ever since.

00:02:50.000 So I keep going with my Chicago stuff.

00:02:53.000 But so yeah, I grew up in the suburbs of Chicago in a very somewhat liberal area, I guess you could say.

00:02:59.000 And I always loved the country, obviously still do.

00:03:03.000 Was inclined to always ask questions of my teachers.

00:03:07.000 I started in public school in sixth grade.

00:03:10.000 And it was always very clear that the agenda that, yes, even back in 2006 and 2007 in our country was to train young people to become activists to try to deconstruct our republic.

00:03:22.000 And it wasn't as clear to me then, but it was very disturbing that my parents, not necessarily political, but they were always very patriotic.

00:03:30.000 They'd say, you must always understand why our country is unique and exceptional.

00:03:35.000 And then I would be in school and I'd be taught the exact opposite.

00:03:38.000 And so I wanted to go to West Point, didn't get in.

00:03:41.000 I decided to take a gap year before entering school.

00:03:44.000 It's been nine and a half gap years, and so it's been sort of fun.

00:03:47.000 Never actually went to college.

00:03:49.000 And again, if someone goes to college, that's fine.

00:03:52.000 And for me, it just wasn't the right, right choice.

00:03:55.000 I ended up just kind of going my own path and had some really good mentors, Bill Montgomery, who is phenomenal.

00:04:01.000 He passed away last summer, and many others.

00:04:04.000 My fiancé, Erica, has been amazing.

00:04:05.000 And we have the best team at Turning Point USA.

00:04:08.000 And if you're ever in Phoenix or if you want to go take a drive from here to Phoenix, I'm telling you right now, you've seen the offices, Kelly.

00:04:14.000 It's special.

00:04:15.000 You'll see probably 100 25, 26-year-olds that are working from 7 a.m. to midnight to save Western civilization through every vertical imaginable, planning events, on-campus activities, digital online outreach, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, YouTube.

00:04:32.000 I do two podcasts a day, three hours of radio a day on about 140 radio stations.

00:04:37.000 We were just from Oklahoma, Missouri, Kentucky, Nashville.

00:04:43.000 We were in Las Vegas last night, packed house.

00:04:45.000 Go to San Jose tomorrow.

00:04:47.000 At a church, actually, we can talk about that.

00:04:49.000 But our whole ethos is really that we play offense with a sense of urgency to win America's culture war.

00:04:55.000 And I've always been someone that has not kind of sat still well.

00:04:59.000 And I'm trying to do my part.

00:05:01.000 And I love what I get to do.

00:05:03.000 And I've had some amazing influences.

00:05:05.000 My pastor, Rob McCoy, is from Calvary Chapel, Thousand Oaks.

00:05:09.000 Some of you might know him or know of him.

00:05:11.000 He's been amazing and a great mentor of mine.

00:05:13.000 And so people say, kind of, how did you get where you are now?

00:05:18.000 It's just been, it's been the hand of the Lord, quite honestly.

00:05:21.000 Unbelievably blessed.

00:05:22.000 Right place, right time.

00:05:23.000 Yeah, before I get to the turning point and what you're doing on, in fact, I want to start with what role does your faith play in what you're doing?

00:05:33.000 Yeah, it's everything.

00:05:34.000 And, you know, thanks to my pastor, Rob McCoy, who I met just about a couple years ago, he kind of was a game changer for me.

00:05:42.000 And so I grew up in a Bible-believing church, a good one in the suburbs of Chicago.

00:05:46.000 I gave my life to Christ when I was in fifth grade.

00:05:48.000 I believe in the inerrant word of scripture.

00:05:51.000 I believe in the triune God, the Nicene Creed, that Jesus Christ was a real person who lived a perfect life, died on the cross for our sins, and then rose again from the dead.

00:06:03.000 But I was taught wrongly that Christians don't get involved in politics.

00:06:07.000 In fact, I was taught that if you dare intersect your political beliefs and your religious beliefs, that's somewhat heretical.

00:06:16.000 And I never really challenged it that deeply.

00:06:19.000 You know, as I started Turning Point USA, I was always told to stay away from that, just focus on fiscal issues. 0.69

00:06:26.000 Christianity is not where politics should be.

00:06:29.000 And I guess you could say I was naive, but I just really didn't understand the scriptures or the ideas or really where they came together. 0.81

00:06:37.000 And ever since I started my podcast a couple years ago, I do two hours a day of deep reading of our federal documents or philosophy.

00:06:45.000 And I started to realize as a Christian, I was fed the big lie.

00:06:49.000 The big lie is that we're not supposed to get involved in politics.

00:06:53.000 The big lie is this idea that America was founded by a bunch of atheistic, you know, revolutionaries.

00:07:00.000 It was the opposite.

00:07:00.000 It was the black robe regimen and activist pastors in our country and churches that founded America.

00:07:06.000 God is mentioned four times in the Declaration of Independence.

00:07:09.000 72 of 75 signers of the Declaration, believe it's 75, you can correct me if I'm wrong, were Bible-believing, regular church-attending Christians.

00:07:17.000 It was Jonathan Edwards, George Whitfield, Roger Williams, pastors that were getting into the public square.

00:07:24.000 And some people say, well, the Bible says nothing about politics.

00:07:26.000 And that's completely wrong.

00:07:28.000 In fact, what are we supposed to do with Daniel, Jeremiah, Esther, Mordecai, Nehemiah, and Joseph, just to name a few, of people that were trying to influence secular government for God's purpose?

00:07:39.000 What are we supposed to do with when Jesus Christ went to the mouth of the Jordan River?

00:07:43.000 I've been there at Caesarea Philippi, and he asked his disciples, who do you say that I am?

00:07:48.000 And they say, well, some say that you're John the Baptist, some say you're Elijah.

00:07:51.000 He famously said on this rock build my and we say church, but the real Greek word is ecclesia.

00:07:56.000 And that word means political gathering, public square.

00:08:00.000 They didn't use synagogue, they didn't use temple.

00:08:03.000 No, no, no.

00:08:03.000 We are called to be salt and light in every single arena.

00:08:07.000 And so I think that we have been fed this lie intentionally by secular leftists and also the Johnson Amendment thing, which is completely misunderstood and misinterpreted because they know that the greatest sleeping giant in America is an active, vibrant, and alert church that understands what's really happening in our country, that we have God-granted rights, and that if the church rises up, then all of a sudden the game is completely changed for good.

00:08:29.000 And so it's everything for me.

00:08:31.000 And I've spoken to over 50 churches in the last year, from Jack Kibbs' church to Rob McCoy's church, the Banger Main.

00:08:37.000 And I can tell you that there is so much potential in the American church to rise up and take stances on these issues in the cultural and political arena, it's hard to even put into words.

00:08:48.000 And I'm unafraid to talk about my faith.

00:08:50.000 And I think, if properly understood, every one of my political positions is reinforced by scripture.

00:09:02.000 So, let's because not everybody here knows, how did Turning Point start?

00:09:08.000 You know, how, you know, it was time for you to go to college.

00:09:13.000 Didn't happen.

00:09:15.000 How did it start?

00:09:16.000 And what is the goal that you want to accomplish through Turning Point?

00:09:22.000 Yeah, so it's a great question.

00:09:25.000 I've written about this, and I want to be very clear.

00:09:28.000 When I started this organization, which has now turned into a movement, we have 165 people on staff, $35 million operating budget, no debt.

00:09:36.000 We've been so blessed beyond our wildest imaginations.

00:09:39.000 I didn't know what a checking account was because I don't teach that in high school.

00:09:42.000 I had no money, no connections, and no idea what I was doing.

00:09:46.000 And so, but let me be very clear: only in America could someone stand up on stage now nine and a half years later and be able to tell that kind of success story.

00:09:55.000 And it's because I had what it takes in America, which is really, really good mentors and people that wanted to invest and believe in the vision, like Foster Freeze and so many people.

00:10:04.000 And I had energy.

00:10:05.000 I was willing to outwork everyone.

00:10:07.000 That was the one thing that I, and I still try to do this.

00:10:10.000 Maybe it's the Midwestern in me, which is you might be smarter, but I will put in more hours than you are.

00:10:15.000 I will do more events.

00:10:16.000 I will do more podcasts.

00:10:17.000 I will do more radio shows.

00:10:19.000 I will make more phone calls.

00:10:20.000 And then we'll see who wins, right?

00:10:21.000 We'll see who ends up being able to succeed.

00:10:24.000 And so Turning Point started kind of like that video you saw where I would just literally pull up to a college campus with a card table and be like, who's interested?

00:10:32.000 Who loves America?

00:10:33.000 And I just realized that there is this untapped resource on college and high school campuses where we're on pace to have 1,000 high school chapters by the end of the year.

00:10:43.000 We have the largest events across the country, thousands and thousands of people that attend our events.

00:10:48.000 As I mentioned, we're doing our campus tour right now. 0.94

00:10:51.000 Candace Owens, the amazing Candace Owens, got her political start with us at Turning Point USA as our communications director, which was kind of just a really fun moment. 0.96

00:11:01.000 That's all I did was partner with Candace Owens from her beginning.

00:11:04.000 I think I've lived a good political career.

00:11:08.000 That's just one chapter in the amazing things we've done.

00:11:10.000 We're so proud of her.

00:11:11.000 We just did an event with her.

00:11:12.000 But look, just the college thing, I was supposed to go to college.

00:11:16.000 I didn't get into West Point.

00:11:17.000 My parents did a really good thing, and they said, you got to pay for college yourself.

00:11:20.000 We're helping with none of it.

00:11:22.000 And I said, okay, well, if you're helping with none of it, then I'm not borrowing the money.

00:11:26.000 So I'm taking a gap here.

00:11:27.000 I said, fine.

00:11:28.000 And I actually really encourage you guys to do that with your kids and grandkids.

00:11:32.000 It forces really good decisions.

00:11:34.000 It does.

00:11:35.000 As soon as they're the ones that have to sign on the dotted line, like I was, I was like, I'm not ready to go borrow $85,000 to go, you know, learn how to hate America.

00:11:43.000 Maybe I'll do that in a couple years.

00:11:44.000 At least for me, that wasn't, you know, and I know we're somewhat restricted on time.

00:11:49.000 I could give a whole symposium on the state of the college arena in our country, which actually is my next book.

00:11:56.000 And I'm writing an entire book on it because I think it's really helpful.

00:11:59.000 And I think everyone knows that college is a scam because people are afraid to say it.

00:12:02.000 And everyone deep down knows that they're charging way too much money and that they're teaching your kids to hate the country and that all the bad ideas because everyone's kind of afraid to say it.

00:12:10.000 And let me be very clear.

00:12:12.000 I'm not saying that no one should go to college.

00:12:14.000 I'm saying go get a skill and make sure your child or grandchild shares your values when they graduate.

00:12:20.000 That's all I'm saying.

00:12:21.000 And if you can't guarantee those two things, then maybe it's not the right choice.

00:12:25.000 But I understand that I'm definitely the exception to the rule.

00:12:29.000 But again, we've been so blessed, Kelly.

00:12:31.000 It's been the Lord moving one opportunity after the other.

00:12:34.000 I could go just through everything from how I met the president to how that whole chapter unfolded.

00:12:40.000 And so I'm a living testament that the American dream is still alive and well.

00:12:44.000 Well, I will say one thing: the outwork, the out-energy, it can be very easy when you love what you do.

00:12:52.000 I have no problem.

00:12:53.000 But Erica's job will be similar to my wife, who just she's called the governor.

00:13:01.000 Because, you know, if you've ever been in a race car where they have only so fast you can go, I don't, we've done that on the track.

00:13:07.000 I don't know if you've ever done that.

00:13:09.000 I have slammed it to the floor because I want to go full speed.

00:13:12.000 At some point, it won't let me go any faster because it knows I'm not really equipped.

00:13:18.000 And that's kind of my wife's job, and she does it very well.

00:13:22.000 She says, we need to talk about your schedule. 0.97

00:13:24.000 And I know Erica is going to be doing that so that you can live a long life and have a longer air.

00:13:29.000 I was a mess before I met Erica.

00:13:31.000 I mean, if you think it was red-eyed flights, just forgetting luggage and random airports.

00:13:37.000 If anyone needs food recommendations at any airport across the country, I could tell you about every single one of them.

00:13:41.000 The Chick-fil-A thing, actually, I could tell you that they did have a Chick-fil-A.

00:13:45.000 But no, I second that, and that resonates with me.

00:13:49.000 What?

00:13:50.000 So if you look back, what do you want to be able to look back and say, I did it.

00:13:50.000 All right.

00:13:57.000 I accomplished it.

00:13:58.000 What is your goal?

00:13:59.000 So people say, what does success look like?

00:14:01.000 And it's simple to say, but it's really difficult.

00:14:04.000 I want to change the trajectory of America.

00:14:07.000 And I want your grandkids to love the country more than you do.

00:14:11.000 That's it.

00:14:13.000 And I think we have to get a lot better at painting a visual of this.

00:14:18.000 I want 35-year-olds that are having families to have to calm down their seven and eight-year-old because they're so fired up that they just learned about Thomas Jefferson.

00:14:26.000 Is that happening right now?

00:14:27.000 No, it's not.

00:14:28.000 The opposite's happening.

00:14:29.000 Instead, we're hearing stories that they're learning how many slaves Christopher Columbus had on their ships coming over as we were sharing over dinner.

00:14:37.000 We need our kids to love America again.

00:14:40.000 I want it to be an unthinkable statement in American political discourse in both parties to say that America is anything but the most benevolent, creative, accepting, forward-thinking, exceptional nation ever to exist in the history of the world.

00:14:53.000 It should be a non-negotiable.

00:14:55.000 And again, how do we go about doing that is a variety of different ways.

00:15:00.000 But I mean, my big picture goal, hopefully, is to save this gift that I believe was divinely inspired and handed down to us.

00:15:07.000 And I believe we're going to be judged by our creator of whether or not we're able to preserve this constitutional republic.

00:15:14.000 And at the very least, we must give it everything we possibly can and have.

00:15:18.000 And we're seeing a lot of positive signs, a lot of optimistic signs, some troubling signs, but that's my day-to-day mission every single day.

00:15:24.000 You know, I wanted people to know, because my son goes to Belmont University.

00:15:30.000 And I was asked to come down there and speak before the debates.

00:15:35.000 And so I'm going to a college event with a bunch of college students before a debate.

00:15:44.000 I mean, what college students are interested in politics and this kind of thing?

00:15:49.000 It's like a rock concert.

00:15:49.000 I show up.

00:15:51.000 I mean, there's.

00:15:53.000 Yes.

00:15:54.000 There's music blaring like rock music.

00:15:56.000 There's five, six hundred students there.

00:15:59.000 And I'm going, I looked at this and I told my marketing guy, somehow you need to give a picture of this to all these people across the country who have no idea this is going on.

00:16:09.000 That was a turning point event.

00:16:10.000 We have hundreds of those happening simultaneously across the country.

00:16:14.000 So there's a lot more hope.

00:16:16.000 Yeah, and that's, to be honest, that was the first reason I wanted you to come to one of our events is because I said we've got a lot of people who, you know, they're older, they've been successful.

00:16:25.000 I thought I wanted them to see somebody that's actually doing something that's young so they can have hope for the future of the country.

00:16:32.000 And that's, you know, that's definitely you.

00:16:37.000 So, all right, that's what you want to, what do you see as the dangers right now?

00:16:44.000 That's a really important question.

00:16:46.000 And so I've done a lot of thinking about this, and I'm also on the front lines of this.

00:16:50.000 And those of us that call ourselves conservatives, the paradigm is shifting.

00:16:55.000 And I think you all agree with this, and you're all seeing it.

00:16:57.000 I'm going to try to put these pieces together for you in real time, which is that the threat to our liberty is not just the government right now.

00:17:08.000 This is a new thing.

00:17:09.000 It was not the way 20 years ago.

00:17:11.000 We now have threats to our liberty from the federal government and from the Chamber of Commerce.

00:17:18.000 Look at what Delta and Coca-Cola did in the last week.

00:17:23.000 Inexcusable.

00:17:24.000 Misrepresenting a very boring Georgia voting bill as if this is Jim Crow 2.0.

00:17:31.000 And none of them have read the bill.

00:17:32.000 In fact, American Airlines admitted it to Dan Patrick that they have not even read the bill.

00:17:37.000 Major League Baseball, this is Major League Baseball, right?

00:17:40.000 So they're like, we want to fight systemic racism.

00:17:43.000 So their way of fighting systemic racism, which by the way, they accuse anyone that asks for identification as being bad people.

00:17:50.000 Good luck going to a Texas Rangers game at Will Call tickets without showing an ID.

00:17:54.000 Try that one out.

00:17:56.000 Major League Baseball says they want to fight systemic racism.

00:17:59.000 And so then they pull out of a 62% black county to Denver, a 12% black county, which is mostly upper-middle-class white, and remove a $100 million stimulus to over 3,000 black businesses in downtown Atlanta because they want to go fight systemic racism.

00:18:16.000 Don't get me started on the Silicon Valley tech issue.

00:18:19.000 And so what's happened here is we as conservatives, we have done a very poor job of maintaining and protecting our institutions of power.

00:18:29.000 A really bad job at that.

00:18:31.000 And so the institutions of power, obviously, government, media communications, universities, and most pressingly, the corporations, where now the threat to our liberty is multi-institutional.

00:18:45.000 Here's the good news, though.

00:18:47.000 The good news is that this is an unsustainable practice by the CEO of Delta and the CEO of Coca-Cola, is that the people that actually buy these products in massive quantities are going to start saying, I'm going to purchase my values, and I'm not going to go out of my way anymore to go fly Delta or to go to a major league baseball game.

00:19:07.000 Like for me, I'm done with baseball.

00:19:08.000 Like, have a nice life.

00:19:09.000 Like, thanks so much.

00:19:11.000 Same with basketball. 0.63

00:19:12.000 Enjoy going to GoPander to the Chinese Communist Party because you think you want to go somehow communicate to the woke industrial complex.

00:19:20.000 This is a hard thing for us conservatives to talk about, which is corporations are not your friend. 0.84

00:19:25.000 They're financing BLM Incorporated.

00:19:27.000 PepsiCo gave $100 million to BLM, $100 million.

00:19:32.000 Bank of America, $1 billion.

00:19:35.000 I can go down the list.

00:19:36.000 And so we kind of have to take stock and inventory of what do we actually control?

00:19:41.000 Where do we have influence?

00:19:42.000 And so that's something I really want.

00:19:44.000 I'm saying this at every single event.

00:19:47.000 So people say, well, then, Charlie, what should we stand for?

00:19:49.000 I say, that's a great question.

00:19:51.000 Thankfully, we have a really good answer to it, unlike the left.

00:19:54.000 I care much more about whether or not we're having children in our country than corporate profits.

00:20:00.000 I care about getting the divorce rate down than the corporate tax rate for Google.

00:20:05.000 I care about whether or not we're able to bring down opioid deaths in America than whether or not Mark Zuckerberg has $100 billion or $50 billion, or that Jeff Bezos is able to go to the moon.

00:20:16.000 Completely irrelevant to me.

00:20:17.000 I want church attendance to go up.

00:20:19.000 I want opioid deaths to go down.

00:20:21.000 I want young people to get married again.

00:20:22.000 I want us to have more children in our country.

00:20:24.000 I want us to restore the moral fabric in America.

00:20:27.000 I want people to speak freely online without the threat of termination or cancellation.

00:20:31.000 And that's a winning message.

00:20:32.000 I care more about the muscular class in America than the Zoom and Skype class in America.

00:20:37.000 And I think that there's something really interesting happening, which is the first party that actually, and we were talking about this at dinner, the first party that understands that there's 108 million people in America that serve you dinner and drive your Uber cars and deliver packages to your home.

00:20:56.000 And let's give it up for the people, by the way, that are working in this, that put on this event.

00:21:00.000 It's a really important thing.

00:21:02.000 And they're the ones that have to wear a mask all day long and they work eight to 10 hours a day.

00:21:07.000 How do you win those people over?

00:21:08.000 Do you win them over by some sort of corporate tax cut like Paul Ryan did in 2017?

00:21:14.000 No.

00:21:15.000 What they care about is whether or not their children are going to get a quality education.

00:21:19.000 They care about whether or not their church is going to get shut down recklessly because of some lockdown order.

00:21:25.000 And so what's happening here is that the largest, it's what I call a top-down revolution.

00:21:30.000 It's unprecedented, actually.

00:21:31.000 It really is.

00:21:33.000 It's a bizarre thing.

00:21:34.000 And I did an entire, I did multiple podcasts on this, which is the Russian-Chinese Cuban revolution were all generally people of the working class pushing against the bourgeoisie or the aristocracy.

00:21:46.000 Now we have the aristocracy that's pushing down on the common man. 0.65

00:21:51.000 Like the biggest threat to the people in control is the white Christian male that works at Wendy's. 0.92

00:21:59.000 Like they're the problem. 0.83

00:22:00.000 Like, no, I'm sorry, Jeff Bezos.

00:22:02.000 You're the problem.

00:22:03.000 And you doubled your net worth while America was totally shuttered and 40% of small businesses went under while you went and delivered packages and funded groups that hate our values.

00:22:13.000 And so this is the new kind of populist, moral-centered conservatism that you see best articulated by Tucker Carlson every night.

00:22:20.000 And if we're serious about preserving liberty, we have to recognize what the threats to our liberty actually is.

00:22:26.000 And I'll just make one more point on this, Kelly, which is first freedom, freedom of religion.

00:22:31.000 Right now, I can name 10 pastors that have been kicked off YouTube.

00:22:35.000 10.

00:22:38.000 What's their right of redress or grievance?

00:22:41.000 So First Liberty, this organization, is doing a moral good for America.

00:22:47.000 And praise God, the founding fathers gave the capacity to sue Google.

00:22:52.000 When Google kicks off one of my best friends, James Cadiz, who runs Calvary Chapel Signal Hill, just a couple hours from here, he's not allowed on YouTube.

00:23:01.000 Why?

00:23:02.000 Because he had a person that asked him a question saying that he thinks the vaccine is not a good thing.

00:23:07.000 He didn't say it.

00:23:08.000 Someone asked a question as a guest on it.

00:23:10.000 They strike down his account.

00:23:12.000 He has no legal representation rights.

00:23:15.000 He has no ability to do anything because they're a private company.

00:23:18.000 Give me a break.

00:23:19.000 They control 92% of all search results in our country.

00:23:22.000 That's like saying that the 405 is a private highway and you could do whatever you want and you could discriminate.

00:23:29.000 Of course you can.

00:23:30.000 Those are interstate highways.

00:23:32.000 These are information highways.

00:23:34.000 And so that private company in Menlo Park has way too much power over our freedoms and liberties.

00:23:40.000 So I will make a limited government pro-liberty argument that we must push back against this small group of people that quite honestly do not share our values and that are trying to crush the common man and our fellow countrymen.

00:23:52.000 And so that's one of my biggest issues right now.

00:23:54.000 And I think that they're really worried, which is why they're doing a preemptive strike against us.

00:23:58.000 Yeah, I, you know, we...

00:24:00.000 Glenn.

00:24:04.000 We talked at dinner about this, but I mean, I really feel like there's a clear shifting going on in politics.

00:24:10.000 It's like the Republican Party.

00:24:11.000 It used to be the party of the corporation and all this.

00:24:14.000 Now the corporations are all woke.

00:24:16.000 They've been taken over by the diversity councils and they're against every American value. 0.84

00:24:21.000 And it's like some of these politicians don't get it yet.

00:24:24.000 It's not a bad thing, though.

00:24:25.000 It's a good thing because now the general population is totally with you.

00:24:30.000 And they're just sitting there waiting for somebody to be a leader on what they believe.

00:24:35.000 And why you would cave in to this small, tiny, I mean, you know, elitist minority is nuts politically.

00:24:44.000 And I think people are getting with this, but there's clearly a not Christy Noam recently, a number of them who, you know, are not getting what's going on.

00:24:54.000 And last night, you might have saw this on Tucker Carlson.

00:24:58.000 Anyone who thinks that they can out-communicate Tucker Carlson, you got really bad media consultants.

00:25:03.000 Let me just be very clear, okay?

00:25:06.000 If you're in the midst of a controversy and Tucker doesn't think you're 100% correct, is going to defend, don't go on Tucker's show.

00:25:12.000 I don't know if you saw this last night.

00:25:14.000 The governor of Arkansas goes on his show, and his arguments were so unbelievably bad, and he just happened to also be going up against someone who is so precise with his language and has a BS meter that goes off immediately.

00:25:30.000 I don't know if you saw this or not, but the governor of Arkansas decided that his big fight is going to try and veto a bill that prevents children from chemically castrating themselves, right?

00:25:40.000 Like that's apparently what it means to be a conservative now in corporate America in Arkansas is we're now going to allow children to destroy themselves.

00:25:50.000 And Tucker said, you know, Tucker went through and asked him what studies and what science and all this.

00:25:54.000 And you could see the governor was so stunned that he would be pressed with this.

00:25:59.000 And this is what he said.

00:25:59.000 He said, well, don't we as conservatives believe in limited government?

00:26:03.000 And I laughed out loud.

00:26:04.000 I said, you are living 20 years ago when we were hypnotized to believe in this weird libertarian open border moral indifference lifestyle when our country was burning from within and we said nothing about it.

00:26:19.000 This is a new conservative movement where if government's good for anything, it's probably good for making sure our children can't go put puberty blockers when they're seven years old and change God's design of male and female.

00:26:30.000 That's probably what government is good for, if anything.

00:26:33.000 And he was so stunned that someone would make that argument.

00:26:36.000 Like, oh my gosh, you're trying to tell me that you don't see eye to eye that the government should be indifferent?

00:26:40.000 Like, no, no, no.

00:26:41.000 The government is there to make those moral claims, especially for our children.

00:26:46.000 And so this is happening very quickly.

00:26:48.000 And I think a lot of politicians are quite honestly, they're owned by these corporations.

00:26:51.000 And they get Their contributions from these corporations, and the governor that is just acing every single one of these tests is Governor Ron DeSantis, who's just been unbelievable at every single one of these.

00:26:51.000 Yes.

00:27:01.000 And he's an example of how to actually handle these issues.

00:27:06.000 But here's the good news, Kelly: is that there's a disconnect between the politicians and the people, and eventually the politicians will just read the script that the people write for them.

00:27:17.000 And this country, if we play our cards right, we're not just going to win, we're going to win so big in a way that the left is going to win 20% of the electorate with their constantly woke, I am a better person than you are, virtue signaling Malibu and Manhattan kind of competition where we're going to be the people that represent traditional normal American values, the countryman, the plumber, the electrician, the HVAC, the taxi driver,

00:27:46.000 the person that picks up your garbage, the police officer and the firefighter, the veteran and the entrepreneur.

00:27:51.000 You can go represent Larry Page and Sergey Brin and also go represent the people that are just perpetually angry.

00:28:00.000 We'll go represent the rest of our country.

00:28:02.000 And that realignment, I think, all of you are seeing in real time.

00:28:05.000 And it's really exciting, quite honestly, because it's long past time that we get back to actually why we're conservatives and what we're doing here.

00:28:14.000 Let's talk about the big tech, but I want to do it from your standpoint.

00:28:20.000 I mean, a huge part of your success, your communication, is relying.

00:28:28.000 I mean, you're having to do stuff with them.

00:28:31.000 I mean, I know you thought about this.

00:28:33.000 What happens if they decide to all pull the plug on Charlie Kirk?

00:28:38.000 What is your plan?

00:28:39.000 What is your strategy?

00:28:40.000 Are you looking for alternatives?

00:28:41.000 Yeah, we're already trying to develop alternatives.

00:28:43.000 I encourage all of you to check out a YouTube competitor called Rumble, R-U-M-B-L-E.

00:28:49.000 Never go to YouTube again and just go to rumble.com.

00:28:52.000 It's just as good, if not better.

00:28:54.000 Please, just every time anyone sends you a YouTube link, just say, nope, I use Rumble.

00:28:58.000 It makes a difference.

00:28:59.000 5% market dip is all of a sudden going to make an impact on their revenue margins.

00:29:04.000 But yeah, look, this is a very serious thing that you now have a small group of people that can digitally assassinate me and that they control my livelihood.

00:29:14.000 And I will say that Facebook has been the best to deal with.

00:29:17.000 They do interface and they do liaison with.

00:29:19.000 And I will say that they got plenty of problems and I could go through them, but they've been really good at communicating.

00:29:25.000 And Google has just been impossible, quite honestly.

00:29:28.000 But there's just too much power.

00:29:30.000 And so this is a really interesting question.

00:29:32.000 And I know you'll appreciate this, Kelly, which is that if you read the Federalist Papers, which I encourage every person to read and study, and every young person should have to study them intently, the founding fathers feared centralized power.

00:29:45.000 They feared one or two people having unchecked power.

00:29:51.000 The American Revolution was not about tea.

00:29:53.000 It was not about taxes.

00:29:55.000 It was about consent.

00:29:56.000 It was about the consent of the governed.

00:29:58.000 It was a philosophical, multi-thousand-year leap forward.

00:30:02.000 And so now we come to today and we say, okay, if the IRS comes after any of us, at the very least, they send you a document called, Here's Your Taxpayer Bill of Rights.

00:30:12.000 Some of you have seen it before.

00:30:13.000 You at least get a right to counsel.

00:30:15.000 You can sue your own government, and in fact, you can win.

00:30:19.000 It's hard.

00:30:20.000 You guys have done it, but you can sue and win.

00:30:22.000 But now you have these companies that are more powerful than our government, that are more sophisticated than our own government.

00:30:29.000 And if they decided tomorrow Charlie Kirk does not exist on these platforms, I lose revenue, I lose employees, I lose livelihood, I lose audience, I lose all of it.

00:30:40.000 And I have no ability to sue, and it will just get thrown out immediately because we're supposed to believe that's what's best in the private interest.

00:30:47.000 And the legal community is changing on this.

00:30:48.000 Clarence Thomas, two days ago, issued an opinion, which was kind of, in my opinion, I'd love your thoughts on this, Kelly, a guidance memo to other lawyers and judges to kind of start thinking correctly on this.

00:30:59.000 And Clarence Thomas said, these are common carriers.

00:31:02.000 These companies are no different than the telecom companies where they're just connecting point A to point B, and that if there's not a comparable competitor, then you're not allowed to kick any American citizen off of these.

00:31:14.000 For example, there was a lawsuit that was done in Washington, like 1960s.

00:31:19.000 It was cited in the opinion that he wrote, which is that someone said, oh, I don't have to let them ride on this road.

00:31:26.000 You know, it was probably a racial stereotyping issue.

00:31:29.000 They could always just swim in the river or they can ride a horse.

00:31:34.000 And the court said, no, no, no, you must let people of all colors and races and religions drive on your road because there's not a comparable way to transport.

00:31:42.000 That's the equal protection clause, or you would know the legal statute better than I would.

00:31:47.000 The point is that once they kick you off Google, there is no comparable, there's no comparable outlet to be able to reach that many people.

00:31:55.000 I didn't go through the different philosophical arguments here.

00:31:58.000 We actually talked about this back in July, or it might have been June, at the event we had in Colorado, and I warned about what was coming.

00:32:05.000 And I encourage all of you to go back and listen to that on my podcast only because I warned that these tech companies were going to directly interfere in our election.

00:32:13.000 Remember, I said that was the biggest threat.

00:32:15.000 And what happened?

00:32:18.000 Early October, one of the most bizarre, unexpected political stories just popped up, where the soon-to-be president's son hands over his laptop to a laptop repair shop man in Delaware, ends up in Rudy Giuliani's hands.

00:32:35.000 He seems to be in the middle of everything.

00:32:37.000 Gives it to his lawyer, Mr. Costello, interesting name for the whole situation.

00:32:43.000 Hands it over to the New York Post, and the New York Post publishes stories saying, okay, there's X-rated, allegedly child pornography on here, right?

00:32:56.000 There's also emails that show that Joe Biden might be a minority partner in a Chinese company.

00:33:01.000 And then if you posted it on any social media site, Facebook, Twitter, any of them, they restrict your account immediately.

00:33:09.000 Explain to me how that is not the work of a Democrat superback.

00:33:13.000 How is that not direct election interference?

00:33:16.000 They directly impacted early voting in our country, directly.

00:33:20.000 In fact, I could make an argument that if big tech did not interfere, Donald Trump would have been president, even with the shenanigans of mail-in voting and all that other stuff.

00:33:27.000 It's that big of a deal.

00:33:28.000 That they interfered with the communication flow, they manipulated with it.

00:33:32.000 Because I want you to imagine if we had a real social media platform and a national discussion, be like, whoa, you're trying to tell me that Joe Biden has 10% for the big man and his former business partner, Tony Bobulinsky, is validating these emails, and that his son is saying in the email chain that he wants a corporate bonus from a Russian oligarch and the mayor of Moscow's what?

00:33:54.000 That's sort of a big deal for geopolitics, isn't it?

00:33:58.000 But if you even mentioned any of the contents in a laptop, you would lose your social media account.

00:34:02.000 I did.

00:34:03.000 I lost my Twitter for a week because I commented on it during early voting.

00:34:09.000 Explain to me how that is fair, how that is an election.

00:34:12.000 No, no, no, that's a show trial. 0.71

00:34:13.000 That's a Soviet tactic. 0.71

00:34:15.000 And so the remedies, I think, are popping themselves up. 0.93

00:34:18.000 We're anticipating being eliminated and canceled.

00:34:21.000 But I think that finally people are waking up.

00:34:23.000 And I'll just say, I know I literally do radio every day so I could talk too long.

00:34:27.000 They made one mistake.

00:34:29.000 When they kicked Trump off all in one day, everyone in this room, I'm sure, was like, that's it.

00:34:35.000 They've shown their true colors.

00:34:36.000 These are no longer tech companies.

00:34:38.000 These are Democrat super PACs.

00:34:40.000 We now, the gaslighting they were trying to do, the slow incremental Kind of hypnotizing you?

00:34:47.000 He's like, nope.

00:34:50.000 We know who you are.

00:34:51.000 You kicked Trump off as the president of the United States of these platforms.

00:34:56.000 The country woke up immediately.

00:34:58.000 Yeah.

00:35:03.000 Yeah, we've, I mean, we've been actually a part of a bunch of legal groups that have been looking at this for the last few years.

00:35:10.000 And, you know, there's antitrust lawsuits.

00:35:12.000 There's seven of them going right now against them.

00:35:16.000 There's a lot of creative examples, but it's, I mean, one of them is simply a shareholder derivative lawsuit against these corporations.

00:35:25.000 Because what is the job of the corporation?

00:35:27.000 It's to protect the fiduciary interests of their shareholders.

00:35:31.000 And when they're doing things that are against their own financial interest, I mean, somebody's going to make a lot of money with those lawsuits eventually.

00:35:38.000 But there are a lot of options.

00:35:39.000 But right now, we have these trillion.

00:35:42.000 I mean, these companies are bigger than 90% of the countries in the world.

00:35:47.000 And so I can't think of anything more dangerous, and it's something we've got to watch. 0.97

00:35:51.000 I do want to get to, you know, as maybe the last area or questions, religious freedom.

00:35:58.000 Since I know you'll play this on your podcast, so your listeners, if they want to find out stuff on religious freedom, go to firstliberty.org and get the information.

00:36:07.000 But I want to know how you see religious freedom.

00:36:10.000 I know that you've been watching what's been going on with all these churches.

00:36:15.000 You've been watching what's going on with all these cases.

00:36:18.000 And certainly that's our battle.

00:36:20.000 How do you see it?

00:36:21.000 And what is catching your attention?

00:36:24.000 Yeah, and thank you, Kelly.

00:36:26.000 And just to reiterate what Kelly said, we're going to be rebroadcasting this on our podcast feed.

00:36:30.000 This will be listened to, God willing, by over a million people, but very minimum, hundreds of thousands of people.

00:36:36.000 Young people will be hearing this conversation, which is a great thing, and they'll be made aware of the great work that First Liberty is doing.

00:36:42.000 And you might find some new cases as a result of that.

00:36:45.000 So look, I think that the way you framed the argument with religious liberty was so perfect and wise.

00:36:45.000 That'd be great.

00:36:54.000 Because we should ask ourselves the question, why didn't the communists take over work in the 1950s?

00:37:03.000 It's a really interesting question.

00:37:06.000 They tried. 0.63

00:37:08.000 They tried to take over this country with a communist-style revolution from within, just like they took over the Korean Peninsula.

00:37:16.000 Why did communism not work vocally?

00:37:19.000 It's because every time any of those ideas started to pop up, let's say in Janesville, Wisconsin, a Baptist preacher would look his congregation in the eye and say, our rights come from God, not from government.

00:37:32.000 And communist socialism is an atheist, state-run religious exercise that's against us at every turn.

00:37:39.000 The church is what kept us free for so long.

00:37:42.000 The church has been the only hedge and firewall against tyranny.

00:37:46.000 And that's exactly why they're targeting the church.

00:37:49.000 That's why my friend Mike McClure, who's pastor of Calvary Chapel, San Jose, where we're having our event tomorrow night, faces $2.6 million in fines for opening his church in the last year.

00:38:00.000 $2.6 million in fines.

00:38:02.000 And most of the other churches around him, in fact, all of them except two, have completely turned their back on him.

00:38:08.000 They're like, oh, he's a rabble-rouser, despite the fact that Mike McClure has brought thousands of new people to Christ in the last year.

00:38:15.000 And so Mike McClure said, if I just bring one new person to Christ, I'll pay more than $2.6 million.

00:38:22.000 What a great statement, right?

00:38:23.000 That's courage.

00:38:25.000 It's lacking in our country, but that's courage.

00:38:28.000 And so the religious liberty fight is everything.

00:38:35.000 There's another interesting question I'd like to ask.

00:38:37.000 There's a lot of different ways I could go with this, but here's probably a pretty effective question.

00:38:40.000 In the last hundred years, which religion has been more successful in America, Christianity or leftism?

00:38:47.000 Leftism is a religion.

00:38:50.000 They have a hierarchy, a unified set of beliefs. 0.54

00:38:53.000 They evangelize with more fervor than most Christians do.

00:38:56.000 They dominate Hollywood, pop culture, music, arts and entertainment, academia, athletics. 1.00

00:39:04.000 They took over everything.

00:39:06.000 Absent Billy Graham, who, by the way, was an ardent anti-communist, and spoke against communism very effectively, Christianity has just withered down and down.

00:39:15.000 And there's some places where it's still vibrant, but for the first time ever, less than 50% of Americans would consider themselves outward Christians.

00:39:23.000 And they know that as America becomes more secular, it will become less free. 0.70

00:39:29.000 And they know that the only thing that's standing in the way of their tyrannical, despotic power grab is the American church.

00:39:35.000 It bothers them that people will gather and worship something that isn't done.

00:39:40.000 It bothers them that there might be millions of people out there that will look to the Word of God, not to the 1619 project to interpret today's, or the New York Times or the Washington Post or whatever it might be.

00:39:54.000 And so there's a direct correlation with the persecution of the church and the destruction of liberty and freedom in our country.

00:40:02.000 And I make this argument all the time to atheists or secularists that come to our events, but they agree with what I say, which is that you should be contesting and fighting for an open church.

00:40:11.000 But I'm going to be very honest with you that most Christians didn't want an open church this last year. 0.57

00:40:17.000 Most Christians were like, oh, we should keep things closed.

00:40:20.000 We're just going to go to the YouTube live stream. 0.88

00:40:23.000 Mike McClure is facing $2.6 million in fines from San Jose.

00:40:27.000 I'd say he's probably gotten 10 or 20 pastors reaching out to him.

00:40:31.000 No massive financial assistance from national Christian organizations.

00:40:35.000 Because for him, he's a rabble-rouser and a rebel who's fighting to open his church against a tyrannical government in San Jose.

00:40:41.000 And that's just one example.

00:40:42.000 My pastor, Rob McCoy, Jack Hibbs has been amazing.

00:40:45.000 They leave him alone in Chino because it's a rather conservative area.

00:40:49.000 But yeah, look, the religious liberty and the religious freedom fight.

00:40:54.000 And I do want to make one other comment on the war in court.

00:40:57.000 Nowhere in the Constitution does it say separation of church and state.

00:40:59.000 This is a figment in their imagination.

00:41:01.000 It's a fiction.

00:41:02.000 We've got to get it out of our discourse.

00:41:04.000 It's one letter that Thomas Jefferson wrote to the Danbury Baptist Convention, I think, in 1803.

00:41:09.000 The founding fathers said very clearly, it was either Adams or Madison, said, without a moral people, a republic will crumble in a generation, I'm paraphrasing, which is without religious liberty, our ability to worship our Creator, then a republic will absolutely implode.

00:41:27.000 And here's why, and I'll tie it all together.

00:41:29.000 Liberty is really hard.

00:41:31.000 We learned this this last year, didn't we?

00:41:34.000 I'm going to say something depressing, then I'm going to say something optimistic.

00:41:37.000 We can keep talking if you want them.

00:41:39.000 Depressing, but true.

00:41:40.000 People don't want to be free.

00:41:41.000 They don't.

00:41:42.000 People want to be taken care of.

00:41:44.000 I'll prove it to you biblically.

00:41:46.000 Moses brings the Israelites, God's chosen people, out of Egypt.

00:41:51.000 They're finally out of slavery.

00:41:52.000 You can go look at an Exodus tonight.

00:41:55.000 And what do they say? 0.86

00:41:56.000 We want to go back to Egypt, slavery, because at least we had meat.

00:42:02.000 We ate better.

00:42:05.000 I prefer slavery with good food.

00:42:08.000 And they were still being fed in the wilderness, by the way, than freedom and just being able to eat, not as good.

00:42:17.000 People don't want to be free.

00:42:18.000 So then, therefore, any freedom you have must be explained.

00:42:21.000 It's a value.

00:42:23.000 It's taught.

00:42:24.000 Most importantly, it's taught by the church.

00:42:26.000 The entire idea of freedom as we know it did not come from the Enlightenment.

00:42:30.000 It helped.

00:42:30.000 It didn't come from scientific inquiry.

00:42:32.000 It helped.

00:42:33.000 It came from the Bible.

00:42:34.000 The idea of people being free is the original idea, as Thomas Aquinas wrote so eloquently, is Christ setting you free from your sin.

00:42:44.000 The idea of freedom, of freedom of bondage, the freedom of the mistakes you made, is uniquely a Christian idea.

00:42:51.000 So that's the depressing thing.

00:42:52.000 It's people like, oh boy, people don't want to be free, they want to be safe, safetyism.

00:42:55.000 What's the optimistic thing?

00:42:56.000 The optimistic thing is that one sentence of truth can break apart a lifetime of lies.

00:43:03.000 That the only problem that we have right now, the biggest problem I should say, is we have a problem of distribution.

00:43:11.000 How many people would agree that if only my neighbors, my family, my friends, my son who is on the left heard what I heard and didn't hear the nonsense every single day, things would be different.

00:43:24.000 Right?

00:43:25.000 We have a problem of distribution in our country.

00:43:28.000 So how do we fix it?

00:43:30.000 Well, we have to identify the distribution problem and then get personally involved, where you have to become your own social network.

00:43:37.000 We have to build our own social networks.

00:43:39.000 And then we have to understand that the church, every church in America, must take stances on every single one of these issues.

00:43:46.000 We need a thousand Dietrich Bonhoeffers in our country fast.

00:43:50.000 Yeah, it's interesting.

00:43:52.000 We'll end here, but when I spoke, no, When I spoke at your turning point group, I just read Live Not By Lies, which we've talked about as an excellent book.

00:44:05.000 It talked about communism in these different countries.

00:44:07.000 And I said to them, do you know what this book says and what all these people who live through this says is the greatest thing you can do to stop totalitarianism and communism?

00:44:19.000 And I could tell they were looking like, no, what is it?

00:44:22.000 It's to grow stronger in your faith so that you can stand and speak the truth despite what's coming at you.

00:44:30.000 And that's exactly what you just said.

00:44:33.000 If enough people, it doesn't take a majority, if enough people speak the truth, the lies can't handle it.

00:44:38.000 And as you say, one truth can dispel all the darkness.

00:44:43.000 And so we've just got to be faithful.

00:44:45.000 And I can't think of anybody that's doing more of that than you're doing.

00:44:50.000 And what you're challenging with these young people, I just really appreciate everything you're doing, Charlie.

00:44:56.000 I'm just going to say one last thing.

00:44:58.000 Kelly's doing literally the Lord's work.

00:45:00.000 And again, I don't say that lightly because I know the entire ecosystem of groups that are out there.

00:45:06.000 This is a great organization that's doing really impactful kingdom-building, first liberty-preserving type work.

00:45:14.000 And it's an honor to be able to partner with it.

00:45:15.000 But I know that a lot of you are depressed or you might just looking for action.

00:45:19.000 I'm going to give you one last message of hope, if that's okay.

00:45:23.000 We know the law of thermodynamics, the second law of thermodynamics, the inevitable law of decay.

00:45:27.000 We know force equals mass times acceleration.

00:45:29.000 We know Newtonian physics.

00:45:31.000 I'm going to give you one other law that is always true.

00:45:33.000 The left destroys everything they touch.

00:45:36.000 Everything.

00:45:38.000 Therefore, people are going to now look and say, bring the common sense people back in charge.

00:45:46.000 We're going to get another shot at this, everybody.

00:45:48.000 And it's going to be in massive numbers, in ways you've never imagined.

00:45:52.000 The Holy Spirit is moving.

00:45:53.000 The Lord is moving in ways I've never seen before.

00:45:56.000 The worst thing you can do is do what you're tempted to do.

00:46:01.000 Give up and say, I'm going to just enjoy the rest and watch from my balcony.

00:46:05.000 No, no, no, no.

00:46:06.000 This is no longer a spectator sport.

00:46:09.000 The thing I can't stand, and I appreciate when people say, Charlie, we're counting on you, man.

00:46:13.000 Like, what are you talking about?

00:46:14.000 No, no, you're in the fight, too.

00:46:17.000 Everyone in this room now needs to be materially involved in it.

00:46:20.000 It's not a spectator sport.

00:46:22.000 This is not going to the Super Bowl.

00:46:23.000 You guys are in the arena in your own little part in whatever you're doing.

00:46:27.000 And that's my call to action for everyone here tonight is that be personally and intimately involved with the Republican group, the women's group, starting the college chapter, speaking there, supporting kids, taking the education, whatever it might be.

00:46:38.000 We're all involved in it together.

00:46:40.000 And Kelly, that's what you're doing so well.

00:46:42.000 Thank you.

00:46:43.000 Really?

00:46:44.000 God bless you.

00:46:44.000 We pray for you and Turning Point.

00:46:46.000 Thank you, guys.

00:46:51.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:46:52.000 Email us your thoughts, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:46:55.000 And if you want to get involved with Turning Point USA, where we play off into the sense of urgency to win America's Culture War, go to tpusa.com.

00:47:01.000 God bless you guys.

00:47:02.000 Speak to you soon.

00:47:05.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - May 09, 2021

Defeating the Dangerous Religion of Leftism with Kelly Shackelford

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