00:00:47.000His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:00:55.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:40.000You know, I explained a couple weeks ago how I came into it, you know, when it was a minor issue with much more empathy and let's be sensitive and let's be careful and don't bully.
00:01:52.000And I still am not in favor of bullying, but I've completely reversed myself on the, it's all about empathy.
00:02:14.000How should we think about when the regime says there are it's birthing people who can chest feed with a lactating hormone that might disrupt babies' heart rates?
00:02:24.000This is a real thing, everybody, by the way.
00:02:43.000It's obvious that it's not possible for a man to breastfeed a baby.
00:02:48.000Chest feeding a baby is abuse of a child.
00:02:51.000We should be standing up against it and condemning.
00:02:53.000And there should be a healthy measure of ridicule.
00:02:57.000There really needs to be a healthy measure of judgment against people who would put an infant through that kind of behavior and who would invade a girl's locker room and who would parade around in their women's swimsuit while they have a penis.
00:03:11.000These people are freaks if they go in, and they're perverts, by the way, if they go into a female locker room.
00:03:18.000And Megan, you've had the courage to speak out and the media calls you and anyone who says anything transphobic.
00:03:53.000Yeah, and it's so totalitarian in that if you don't conform, we're going to force it forward with you.
00:04:00.000And, you know, Megan, this is happening so fast.
00:04:02.000I believe we're living through a cultural revolution, a forced forward momentum moment where they're trying to remake fundamental terms and language.
00:04:10.000And if you disagree, they slaughter you.
00:04:12.000But it takes truth tellers, takes people like yourself and people like you to willing to speak out and say, no, I'm actually not going to do that.
00:04:21.000No, I actually think it's wrong that Thomas won the NCAA championship as a biological man.
00:05:16.000And you need to go no further than North Carolina to look at the young volleyball player, 17 years old, who came on my show, who was forced to play against a biological boy on the other team who had a spike the ball in her face so severe she has permanent damage as a result of it.
00:05:31.000Megan Rapino can take a seat because she no longer has to take the risks.
00:06:00.000I mean, I think Ron DeSantis nailed it.
00:06:02.000You know, he spoke with Benny Johnson within the past month and said explicitly, you know, this absurdity of pretending that a man can become a woman.
00:06:16.000Trump's gotten some criticism for, you know, the stance he had in 2016.
00:06:21.000Well, I would submit that's not, that doesn't answer the question because a lot's changed since 2016.
00:06:27.000If you were here me in 2016, I'd sound a lot different.
00:06:30.000So we have to ask him how he feels about all that today.
00:06:32.000But I think all these GOP candidates need to be perfectly clear that a man cannot become a woman, a woman cannot become a man, and that while we can have empathy for people who have gender confusion, it's a hard no on boys crossing over into our sports or men crossing over into our spaces.
00:06:49.000Megan, this is now a cottage industry.
00:06:51.000We're now up against the pharmaceutical companies that stand to make billions of dollars on these chemical castration drugs.
00:06:57.000There are hundreds of these gender-affirming clinics.
00:07:01.000And Dr. Miriam Grossman, I'm not sure if you had her on your program.
00:07:06.000She even says that it's in the standard protocol treatment of pediatricians, where parents bring their kid in, and if they turn their back or if they walk out of the room, the pediatrician might ask an eight-year-old, well, do you think you're a boy?
00:07:20.000I mean, they're coming directly after the children.
00:07:22.000And it's beyond just kind of the going after the children element of it, but that's the most perverse and the most sick kind of element here.
00:07:31.000As a mother, Megan, you know, I know you're leading this and other moms feel the same.
00:07:36.000It is time for ridicule and the drawing of the lines.
00:07:39.000And what I'm afraid, though, is that they've advanced so far that this idea toxin has gone into institutional high-level society.
00:07:49.000I think we're at that breaking point or around that.
00:07:52.000Yes, but I think there's nothing but hope for the future because people are waking up.
00:07:57.000You know, I think a lot of people were like me where they were empathetic and they were trying to be non-bullying when it was a very, very small sliver of the population struggling with this issue.
00:08:06.000And now that not only has it exploded, because it is a social contagion, but it's more than just exploded.
00:08:12.000It's now to the place where for the first time in U.S. history, they're not just saying accept me and my lifestyle.
00:08:17.000They're saying, I want you to change your beliefs.
00:08:21.000I want you to change the way you and your children approach sports, life, safety, and so on.
00:08:26.000That's never before happened, where gender has been erased, or that's how they would have it.
00:08:31.000So I think, number one, there's a groundswell of support on our side.
00:08:34.000Number two, Lost in Transnation, Miriam Grossberg's book, is amazing.
00:08:42.000She knows of what she speaks, and she completely ouchs the entire psychological industry for selling our children up the river.
00:08:49.000This is one of the reasons we pulled our children from the New York City private schools, which I spoke about publicly right after George Floyd.
00:08:55.000They went nuts on the race stuff, and they went nuts on the gender stuff.
00:08:59.000And in my children's, I have two boys and a girl.
00:09:01.000In my boy's school, they were actually asking my third grader once a week, the whole class, if they were sure they were still boys.
00:09:11.000These are boys who have no gender confusion.
00:09:13.000They were putting that in their heads.
00:09:15.000And we pieced right out of there, which is what I recommend to you.
00:09:19.000There's no point in letting it steward.
00:09:20.000Well, and that's an interesting question, Megan, that is debated.
00:09:23.000Should parents fight for the school they're in or get out so their kids don't get infected?
00:09:28.000Look, if you can fight, if you can fight and you can win, go for it.
00:09:32.000But we were in the midst of New York City.
00:09:53.000But there was no winning in New York City private school, so it was time to end.
00:09:56.000But I'll say this too, on the explosion of the medical problems.
00:10:00.000Yesterday at that Iowa Forum that Tucker hosted, Asa Hutchinson went out there and said that he rejected that bill that would have banned these procedures, medical surgeries and hormones, et cetera, for minors.
00:10:13.000And then he tried to make a distinction between the drugs and the surgical procedures, because surgery is permanent, but the drugs aren't.
00:10:39.000And there's no minor in America who should be subjected to that.
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00:11:52.000I don't know about you guys, but if the Republican Party can't agree that we should ban chemical castration of children, then the Republican Party has become worthless.
00:12:02.000I mean, if we cannot do that very basic thing.
00:15:07.000The indictments make me like Donald Trump a lot more because this is an administrative state, a fourth branch of government, an unchecked bureaucracy that is interfering with a presidential election for the first time ever.
00:15:19.000And it makes me wonder, like, they must really fear this guy to such unbelievable levels that they have to go to it.
00:15:26.000So he's shooting up into the polls and kind of looking on the Democrat side, Megan.
00:15:29.000I know some of this is just speculation and looking, because you have a good track record predicting, is Joe Biden going to be the Democrat nominee?
00:15:46.000I think he's fascinating, but they're going to snuff him out.
00:15:49.000At least snuffed out Bernie Sanders, who was a lot stronger than RFK Jr. is.
00:15:53.000And they will definitely snuff out RFK Jr.
00:15:56.000I mean, honestly, the bigger question is whether Biden can make it physically, whether, like, literally, whether he will live to the, I mean, God bless him.
00:16:04.000I'm not rooting, believe me, I'm not rooting for anything bad to happen to him for many reasons.
00:16:10.000That's the biggest fright for them, that something happens to Joe Biden, and then they're stuck with the totally unelectable Kamala Harris.
00:16:27.000It feels a little abusive what's happening to him now.
00:16:30.000He has his good days and his bad, but way more bad than good.
00:16:32.000And if you have this guy six years out from right now, I mean, I think we're back in 25th Amendment territory.
00:16:38.000And I just, it's, it has very bad, it forebodes bad things for the United States.
00:16:43.000You bring up something interesting where I think that there's a realignment happening, and I'm going to prove it to you.
00:16:48.000Here we are at a convention where Donald Trump is viewed very favorably, who's called far right by the media, which just drives me nuts, right?
00:18:15.000And so I said, all right, I'll put him on and we'll give him a hard time and I'll ask him all the questions because I want the interview to live.
00:18:22.000I don't want it to get banned on YouTube or any of the other platforms.
00:18:26.000I had the guy on and not a single clip, nothing got censored.
00:18:31.000And if you talk to him, he'll say that was the beginning of his resurrection because it made it okay to talk to this guy.
00:18:36.000And once you, it's just like these other censorship issues.
00:18:39.000Once you actually start to hear the opposite ideas, you get a little bit more enlightened and you may or may not agree with all of it, but you've learned a little and you've shorn up your own views, even if you disagree.
00:18:49.000It's an opportunity to go and say, no, I disagree.
00:19:16.000I mean, I'm not going to go vote for Bobby Kennedy in a primary, but his commentary and his book, The Real, I think it's called The Real Anthony Fauci, is an amazing book.
00:19:29.000And he really led the charge of exposing Anthony Fauci for the craven criminal bureaucrat who should be sent to Gitmo for what he did for our children.
00:19:41.000Well, the other thing about Bobby Kennedy is he's pushing back on Ukraine, which is not popular at all in the Republican Party anymore.
00:19:50.000And he pushes back against the military-industrial complex and the intelligence complex in ways that are deeply personal to him.
00:19:56.000I mean, you ask him a question about the CIA, and he will start at the beginning of the formation of the CIA and walk you through exactly how it's been corrupted.
00:20:02.000So you'll learn in speaking to him, and he's got sort of the same enemies as a lot of Republicans have come to have.
00:20:07.000Yeah, so and I'm getting at something though, Megan, which is I think there can be a coalition eventually built.
00:20:15.000I don't think it will be done in this cycle just because there's so many built-in biases, Trump, Biden, but eventually, is it possible to have a coalition where there's just, I don't know, ordinary people that believe in reality and don't think men could give birth and want people to own homes and not be in debt all the time and then have a super like rich woke oligarchy party.
00:20:38.000Is that conceivable or possible or too entrenched?
00:20:42.000Because it's just notable, it's noteworthy, everybody.
00:21:02.000You know, it's just the way our country is set up.
00:21:05.000And I do think, unfortunately, the woke in the Democratic Party is expanding, though, on the gender issue, they're losing.
00:21:11.000The woke is expanding, but on the gender issue, they're losing.
00:21:15.000So I don't think we're going to get rid of wokeism altogether, but I think sort of that strain within the Democratic Party is losing the argument.
00:21:22.000And hopefully, they will be dismissed as sort of this radical fringe within the next 10 years because of for no other reason what they've done to children.
00:21:29.000Like what they're doing to children now is just beyond.
00:21:33.000Like they actually are castrating them.
00:21:39.000They actually are making it so not to get too graphic, but they'll never be able to achieve sexual climax forever in their lives if they do that same chemical program I just told you about.
00:21:48.000And so I do think as these kids mature out and start speaking out more, the so-called detransitioners, they may be able to ignore them now, but they're not going to be able to ignore them for long.
00:21:58.000And that's when we really slam the ball.
00:22:02.000Right now, our world is changing in many uncomfortable ways.
00:22:05.000It's not just natural disasters, political and economic disasters.
00:22:08.000The bottom line is you must be prepared for anything to happen at a moment's notice.
00:22:57.000So that, Megan, there's another topic I want to explore with you, which is one of the reasons why I think that realignment is going to be difficult is because of the media.
00:23:06.000And we have seen some dramatic changes in media in the last 18 months.
00:23:10.000Elon Musk buying Twitter, Tucker Carlson surprisingly canned out of nowhere, ratings of cable news shows that are plummeting or tanking.
00:23:18.000Megan, what is going on with how people consume information?
00:23:21.000Because 2024 is a completely different media landscape than we saw in 2020 and 2016.
00:25:48.000And then they made that disastrous move.
00:25:49.000And now Fox's ratings are but a shadow of what they were and digital media continues to explode, including, Tucker's is the greatest cancellation ever.
00:25:58.000Tucker, I listen, I'm not going to name the podcast, but I listened yesterday.
00:26:02.000I watched his forum and I listened to these podcast hosts who I happen to like.
00:26:07.000They're on the right, but talking about how Tucker's totally irrelevant now.
00:26:10.000I'm like, you guys are sitting in some studio by yourselves and he is across from Ron DeSantis.
00:26:50.000It was already hanging by a thread, and they're doing their best to cut that thread right now.
00:26:55.000Look, cable news was already, when I was there, and I left in 17, they were in a panic over cord cutters, you know, people who are going more digital.
00:27:20.000And the problem right now, in my humble estimation, is all, I'm going to say all of the hosts, virtually all, maybe there's a couple, who can make it on their own outside of cable news have chosen to do so.
00:27:35.000And so the only ones who are still there are what we call platform players, where you're watching them because you are watching the platform.
00:27:42.000But if they left to go independent, you wouldn't necessarily follow them.
00:27:47.000Now it's sort of like the digital media, you know, conglomerate of independent voices who are more independent-minded and were also a bunch of middle fingers against the old school.
00:27:59.000Well, and so here's how I know the country's becoming more center-right.
00:28:02.000If you go on Apple podcasts, Shapiro's podcast is one, Megan Kelly's two, one, two.
00:28:24.000These are superstars that are doing content every day that do not necessarily have big, massive, publicly traded company backing, but also the audience is demanding it.
00:28:34.000I think it's an increasing pie, isn't it?
00:28:38.000And look, look what's happened at Fox.
00:28:39.000They've lost half their audience, you know, in the prime time just over the past few months, but they were hemorrhaging even before the disastrous Tucker decision.
00:28:47.000So the problem is conservatives have had no place else to go.
00:29:11.000I don't feel the same way when I watch it.
00:29:14.000And you can kind of see the corporate levers being pulled, right, by the people who are now in charge to make you like this and make you not like this one.
00:31:00.000I believe that we are beginning to win on some big issues because we can finally speak about these issues, where you could put What is a Woman by Matt Walsh up on Twitter uninterrupted, where Tucker can put his Andrew Tate conversation up there.
00:31:14.000Just kind of being in media and seeing Twitter go from really a Stalinistic Maoist platform to be liberated to now the closest thing we have with Rumble, by the way, which is excellent.
00:31:25.000You guys should all download the Rumble app, to being an online social media platform.
00:31:30.000Just talk about, you know, are the bad guys are trying to shut it up?
00:31:34.000You have threads, you have the federal government going after Elon.
00:31:37.000How consequential has the liberation of Twitter been in the last 15, 16 months?
00:31:41.000I mean, I think Elon Musk is emerging as the greatest free speech warrior in modern American history.
00:31:58.000Like, half the people who have been canceled were canceled because of Twitter, because the Twitter mob came for them and then corporate America bent the knee.
00:32:07.000And the woman issue is the best issue of all.
00:32:09.000Like, I haven't joined Threads, the new Mark Zuckerberg thing, but already the left is like wringing its hands about how are they going to do content moderation over there?
00:32:17.000How are they going to make sure those crazies over at Twitter don't come do here what they did over there?
00:32:21.000And I would love to join Threads on it.
00:32:24.000Tweet out a woman as an adult human female.
00:32:27.000Tweet out Leah Thomas is a man, a man, and see what happens, because that's the stuff that the left was banning on Twitter that led in part to Elon's takeover.
00:32:37.000So yes, I think it was a huge, huge move that he took over.
00:32:41.000I think Mark Zuckerberg, who's been okay on Facebook, has been largely a disaster elsewhere.
00:32:48.000I think his other forces are absolutely a force for evil.
00:32:51.000Instagram is actually leading directly, I think, to the death and suicide and depression of millions of American girls in particular.
00:33:17.000Like, we need more, not fewer, competitors in the conservative space because conservative audiences, which are half the country, look at the last election and the vote, have had no choices.
00:33:28.000And the more our side gets out there with the ability to discuss these issues.
00:33:32.000And by the way, for the record, our side, by that, I mean the side of reason.
00:33:39.000If you're a reasonable person, you can talk about these issues and stand firm on constitutional principles like free speech, then you're with me.
00:33:56.000We had a great conversation with some of our Turning Point USA students earlier, and you were really moved by this idea of toxic masculinity and how it's spread on campuses.
00:34:07.000And this is kind of in play right now because of the discussion around Andrew Tate.
00:34:13.000And I don't want to talk about Andrew Tate because I think he says some smart stuff, but there's a lot there that is obviously very controversial.
00:34:56.000My boys are not going to be like that, but I'm actually worried more for my daughter than I am for my boys.
00:35:01.000Like, our girls need to find good men, men who are strong, men who are leaders, men who are not afraid to lean into being the protector and the brave one when the situation calls for it, with whom to reproduce and make the next generation.
00:35:18.000It's fine to encourage men to be more open about their feelings.
00:35:23.000That, you know, in the way that Jordan Peterson encourages, I think that's great.
00:35:27.000You know, I think men should be honest if they're feeling blue or depressed.
00:35:30.000Men have, unfortunately, a very high suicide rate.
00:35:33.000And unlike women, men accomplish it the first time they try.
00:35:36.000So it's important that young men and college campuses in particular find a way to talk about how they're feeling, especially if they're not feeling well or happy or all the things.
00:35:45.000However, that doesn't mean that they need to get closer and closer to being a woman.
00:35:50.000It doesn't mean you have to abandon, you know, when my husband and I walk down the street, he makes sure I'm on the inside, right?
00:36:37.000So, I think lefties, like the women, they talk a lot about me too, and they talk about toxic masculinity.
00:36:45.000And now there's a cohort of men that thinks they're toxically masculine, and that's somehow bad if they're doing their normal man things.
00:36:53.000You know, but we need, we need that sort of bold-chested, brave man, which is the instinct of most men in everyday life, in the military, in the police force.
00:37:06.000I don't want, I do not want a Brooklyn Starbucks-sipping pinky-out guy going over and fighting for us overseas, or like, God forbid, the Chinese, and we strike it up.
00:37:50.000Dylan Mulvaney makes a mockery of women.
00:37:54.000He's mocking us and getting paid for it.
00:37:58.000This person, I don't believe Dylan's transition.
00:38:01.000I think Dylan is an actor who finally found a way to make the cash he'd been trying to make and failing to when living as a gay man.
00:38:09.000So Dylan was first a gay man, and then he said he was non-binary, and then he said it was a little girl, then he said he was a woman, now he said he's a lesbian, now he says he wants to get impregnated by a man.
00:38:21.000I don't understand how that's going to work because he's a man.
00:38:26.000And we're supposed to go along for this ride and be respectful.