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00:01:34.000It's basically one of our guys who goes to the UN.
00:01:37.000And if that sounds like an odd thing to focus on, it's not because one of our roles with this show, one of the roles we have with Turning Point USA, is we want to perpetuate Charlie's legacy.
00:01:46.000And one of the most immediate legacies he has is the people he fought to put in the administration that he campaigned for.
00:02:07.000Can I just say, I literally just did an interview with Politico before the show started, talking about Nate Morris in Kentucky and about how Charlie's endorsement of Nate is still propelling him forward in that race.
00:03:19.000I think that while, of course, all races in different contexts can be subject to really severe discrimination, that when we look at our legal structures, white Americans are often very disfavored in overt ways.
00:03:38.000In California right now, they're fighting to change their law to be explicit.
00:03:42.000Oh, can we actually legally discriminate against white people?
00:03:45.000It's too hard for us to do it in the shadows.
00:03:48.000But in plenty of other states, it is explicitly legal.
00:03:51.000In our federal government, they've been doing it for ages and they've been throwing temper tantrums at the Trump administration's attempts to roll it back.
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00:04:58.000Mr. Carl is infamous for deleting thousands of his past tweets, but deleting tweets doesn't delete the may recorded podcast interviews, public speeches, or editorials that he's done.
00:05:09.000As many of my colleagues have and will point out, Mr. Carl's vile anti Semitic comments are very real.
00:05:16.000Whether or not he tried to erase them, Or excuse them.
00:05:20.000Some may try to excuse Mr. Carl's remarks, claiming his words were taken out of context, that he never said them, and that his own heritage protects him from criticism.
00:05:39.000Identity does not excuse hateful rhetoric.
00:05:42.000Regardless of who says them, words matter, as my colleagues have said.
00:05:47.000And she goes on like that for about two minutes.
00:05:49.000And it's so disgusting to me because this is what they've fixated on.
00:05:52.000They're going to say this guy is an anti Semite, so we can't appoint him to do President Trump's work at the UN, where Spoilers, one of the main things we do at the UN is we actually have to constantly fend off resolutions that they do to basically attack two groups.
00:06:07.000They love passing resolutions at the UN to attack Israel, and they love passing resolutions at the UN to attack like settler countries, which always include America.
00:06:14.000So they'll do these indigenous rights things, all of that.
00:06:18.000And he's made it very clear he's going to pursue that agenda.
00:06:22.000He obviously understands, as Charlie did, that a huge number of the attacks on Israel are ultimately attacks on Western civilization, attacks on white people.
00:06:33.000And they fixate on him because he said things which Charlie himself did that are basically the constant fights over Israel often derail American politics and are not a good thing.
00:06:43.000Yeah, no, Jeremy Carl is a completely mainstream, America first, populist, conservative guy.
00:06:53.000There's nothing that stands out about Jeremy in the sort of ideological sense.
00:06:58.000The only thing stand out about him is that he's going to be extremely effective in setting right a lot of the wrongs of the sort of You know, transatlantic sort of liberal hegemony, right?
00:08:00.000There's a great tweet that went viral, and it's so good that so much discourse in America is just the left pretending not to understand things because, of course, they understand it.
00:08:25.000The mistake you made was letting us in in the first place.
00:08:28.000There is literally hours of footage from just the 2000s of progressives going on television bragging about the browning of America and how we're going to turn everything Democrat Party.
00:08:41.000This was the promise of the Obama years that the demographic shifts in America were going to deliver a permanent Democrat majority across the board because brown people vote Democrat.
00:09:05.000And I want to just make sure we hit this in this segment that Utah Senator John Curtis, a former Democrat, but somehow now got himself elected as a Republican, has said that for now he's opposing Jeremy Carl's nomination.
00:09:19.000After reviewing his record and participating in today's hearing, I'm not convinced that Jeremy Carl is the right person to represent our nation's best interests in international forums.
00:09:28.000And I find his anti Israel views and insensitive remarks about Jews unbecoming.
00:09:32.000Coming of the position for which he has been nominated, Curtis tells Deseret News.
00:09:36.000So we got rid of Romney and now we've got, you know, Tamu Romney here, John Curtis.
00:09:43.000So I'm going to, we're going to hold our, you know, most strident opposition to Mr. Curtis and hope he corrects course here.
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00:14:52.000That's part of what the Biden operation was if people are assimilating too quickly to not being Democrats, we might have to really flood the zone.
00:15:00.000Let's let in 15 million people, amnesty them.
00:15:25.000The difference between basically every other year and then 2024, they surged it.
00:15:28.000If you don't think for a second that they're not banking on demographic change to change the political future of this country, you are a fool and you're not paying attention.
00:15:40.000And I find this that younger people, Conservatives understand this completely.
00:15:45.000The older you get, the more you're operating under an old paradigm where you, I don't know if it's a civil rights hangover.
00:16:51.000Woke took a beating in 2024, and it has these little pockets of power.
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00:17:24.000And they walk into that Senate chamber and they go completely hysterical.
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00:20:33.000I would say over the last few years, one of the loudest voices against marijuana, which we also discussed with Alex Berenson yesterday.
00:20:41.000He was really one of the other ones beating the drum.
00:20:43.000He had a very viral tweet pointing out the sheer number of people who've gotten addicted to marijuana.
00:20:49.000And then he's really getting vindicated because now with the New York Times coming out and some others admitting actually the rush to legalizing it and subsidizing it.
00:21:07.000Look, it's not a victory lap because a victory lap for me is a tragedy for our country.
00:21:11.000We have millions, tens of millions, almost 5% of the U.S. population, a significant part of our adult population, which is using marijuana, high potency marijuana, on a daily basis.
00:21:22.000This is lobotomizing a significant portion of our population.
00:21:25.000It lowers IQ, it lowers testosterone, it's dangerous for pregnant women.
00:21:28.000I mean, we could go down so many of the lists.
00:21:31.000The number one pushback that I get, and I will say, gentlemen, you may find this shocking.
00:21:35.000I have spoken about the most controversial issues.
00:21:38.000Of the time, ICE, BLM, and everything.
00:21:40.000I have received hate mail many times, daylight savings, property tax.
00:21:44.000As you said, nothing inspires more hatred for me personally than talking about the ills of marijuana.
00:21:50.000And in particular, the one I hear the most is about so called medical benefits.
00:21:55.000I need to remind everyone that a massive study just came out, not even three months ago, written up by the New York Times, by JAMA, major medical journals, that shows that all of the claims, almost all the claims about medical marijuana, are completely fake.
00:22:09.000And I think that what's something very insidious and dangerous.
00:22:12.000About this drug is the worship of it by many of its users.
00:22:16.000People who are alcoholics do not try to justify their alcohol use by saying that it's curing them.
00:22:44.000And unfortunately, you know, a significant part of both bipartisan America are being seduced by what is now big weed.
00:22:52.000I mean, these people make big tobacco look like choir boys with the way that they have been lobbying not only this administration, but others to get Americans as hooked on this drug as possible and to keep out responsible voices who are warning about its problems, just like Alex Berenson did with Tell Your Children, which I highly recommend.
00:23:10.000If you are a parent, you need to buy that book, you need to read it, and you need to keep your kids away from this substance.
00:23:52.000You know, we all talked about that previously.
00:23:55.000And, you know, I'll happily talk about some of the dangers of that.
00:23:59.000But again, alcoholics are not trying to justify their alcohol use.
00:24:03.000You know, one of the things I've also warned about there was a more recent study, I believe it was out of the state of Ohio or Michigan.
00:24:08.000I need to go back and to check, but it did show that a significant portion of driver deaths, whenever they checked their blood, had high levels of THC, such potent enough for them to cause impairment in driving.
00:24:20.000People who, you know, go after alcohol like to talk about correctly DWIs.
00:24:24.000And impaired driving, but everybody seems to ignore that we have a significant enough cannabis crisis for people who are driving while high.
00:24:31.000Nobody, nobody is paying attention to these.
00:24:34.000So I would just say to that person, the same way I talk to people whenever I talk about the dangers of SSRIs, it may have made you feel as if it worked in that case.
00:24:42.000But in a longitudinal study, we see that it does not hold even close to the same benefit, let's say of things with not even near the amount of danger, like exercise andor diet.
00:24:53.000So these claims, while we can take individually, when we study them in the long term, We see that on the whole, they do not hold up as promised.
00:25:02.000And look, like, not to get lewd, but just yesterday, you know, as a joke, I was tweeting about cannabis suppositories, which I did not know was a thing.
00:25:51.000If you're a young man in particular, if you want to have a family, its effect on testosterone, on your ability to have children, people are not telling you the truth.
00:25:59.000And then similarly, With a lot of pregnant women.
00:26:01.000Every pregnant woman in America knows you should stay away from alcohol.
00:26:04.000Unfortunately, because of this medical worship culture around marijuana, they are using marijuana in some cases for pain relief or others because they believe the propaganda of costlessness.
00:26:14.000And it is already causing problems for children in the womb, not to mention the explosion of something called cannabis hypermesis syndrome, which you can all look up.
00:26:24.000Scromiting is an effect where you're just like significantly vomiting people, you know, children, teenagers, and others who are vaping this very high potency drug.
00:27:43.000As a society, that total freedom would be anarchy.
00:27:46.000And so we have to have well established norms.
00:27:48.000And when your freedom begins to have high levels of societal costs and cause danger and medical crises and significantly ramp up, let's say, you know, violence in some cases, you know, by the way, guys, we haven't even talked about the mass shooter angle.
00:28:02.000The number of mass shooters who are cannabis addicts is unbelievable, even though it's a relatively small subset.
00:28:08.000So SSRI certainly should be discussed, but that's another angle through which we should.
00:28:12.000The point around it is that nobody is saying, at least me, I am not saying.
00:28:16.000That you holding a dime bag should send you to jail.
00:28:20.000What I am saying is that we need very well established norms and regulation to keep these companies, which are selling these products of extremely high potency with no limits on advertising, no actual analysis of its claims, no safeguards to try and keep it away from children.
00:28:39.000And I encourage people to try and to think in that way.
00:28:41.000This is a normative conversation in the beginning.
00:28:44.000Like, really, what I'm talking about here is culture, perhaps more than anything.
00:29:10.000When we started to legalize it, it wasn't even just, oh, it's legal now.
00:29:14.000We were getting Democrats having these bills to subsidize it.
00:29:20.000Former convicted drug dealers, like black Americans, could open their own weed stores so we could have as many weed stores as possible in low income neighborhoods.
00:29:30.000And I'm just thinking, we're going to look back at this in 10 years, 15, 20, and that'll be the new argument they use to prove why America is racist.
00:29:38.000They'll say, not only did they legalize weed, they subsidized putting weed into black neighborhoods.
00:29:44.000And it's going to be so hard to explain.
00:29:45.000No, actually, that is what liberals were doing as a do gooder thing.
00:29:49.000You know, I'm thinking like, Tyler Robinson and his like Lance Twigs.
00:30:35.000But another component of all of this, which cannot be lost, is that when marijuana is legalized, you invite corporate actors that are very, very good at making things addictive.
00:30:51.000The operative question, the most important question, will more people using weed make America a stronger, better, happier, more joyful country 50 years from now, or less so?
00:31:03.000Some people say it will make it that way.
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00:32:24.000We want to pivot into another topic because Sagar's very good on this one as well the Epstein files, the infamous ones.
00:32:30.000But we wanted to have a specific hook.
00:32:32.000There was an opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal the other day by Barton Swain, and he argues the Jeffrey Epstein files were supposed to uncover the financiers' sex trafficking and blackmail operations.
00:32:44.000They haven't for the excellent reason that there were no such operations.
00:32:49.000So, we've had guests from both sides of the spectrum saga, some arguing, actually, one argued the real villain in the story, he says, is Virginia Guthrie herself, that she was a fabulist and she kind of created the big conspiracy theories out of nothing.
00:33:24.000However, I often find that they're arguing against a straw man as if that was the only claim, let's say, in the Big Ten community.
00:33:31.000And say that if you were to widen your aperture, that the confirmation of the core claim, which was that Epstein was obviously involved in a highly powerful network that involved governments and intelligence agencies, that you really can't ignore all of the evidence that we now have, not only from the files, but from the previous release that happened before, as well as a lot of the information that was already in the open source environment.
00:33:53.000And so, one of the things I find very frustrating is that, yes, there became this kind of what I would call like a low IQ conspiracy of a client list where they would say blackmail tape and then.
00:34:03.000So, he would write exactly next to it what he blackmailed for.
00:34:06.000I mean, I think it's a very unsophisticated understanding of how power, influence, and yes, in some cases, blackmail works.
00:34:12.000But it also ignores, frankly, the memo where Epstein memorialized to himself some very salacious claims that were made against Bill Gates.
00:34:20.000And, guys, I can tell you, having had access to tens of thousands of Epstein's hacked emails that I read through, I would venture to say I read through every single one.
00:34:27.000He was very often in the business of sending himself exactly these types of emails, memos, and others.
00:34:33.000To memorialize certain conversations, send them to lawyers, and keep tabs on other individuals.
00:34:38.000Now, smoking guns largely do not exist.
00:34:40.000For people who are in law enforcement, they will understand what I am saying.
00:34:44.000You have to be able to connect the dots.
00:34:46.000And what we see is not only all of the compromising photos that have been released, let's say of Lord Mandelson, of Prince Andrew, many of these other rich and powerful people, but it really belies what I would say the ignoring by a lot of the people who don't want to see a bigger network here of Epstein's work with these intelligence agencies.
00:35:06.000The intelligence agency question is central and the most important is that his usefulness to this very powerful network of governments, intelligence agencies all across the world, not just one single intelligence agency, is what enabled him to get away with some of his more salacious activities that everybody else likes to focus on.
00:35:25.000No, listen, I think the intelligence, I tend to be, I lean more on your side here because his whole rise to power, his whole, how rich he got, the Les Wexner connections, this revelation that Lex.
00:35:41.000Has now been listed in the files as a co conspirator.
00:35:44.000The question about when are we going to see indictments?
00:35:46.000We were told actually yesterday by Chip Roy that he asked Pam Bondi specifically if some of these other investigations are ongoing and can we expect some indictments?
00:35:56.000Apparently, yes is the answer that they're working on the co conspirators.
00:36:01.000But I tend to think that he was connected to Intel.
00:36:27.000And you're right, it enabled him to get away with this really gross lifestyle over the years that was a, you know, people kind of turn the other cheek to.
00:36:34.000So I tend to think, I tend to agree that I think he was connected internationally.
00:38:44.000The capital of spies and the nexus of East and West.
00:38:47.000This is a person in a relationship with the Khashoggi family, with the Lease family, who are at the heart and center of Iran Contra.
00:38:53.000This is a person who is involved in hundred million dollar Ponzi schemes, in some cases, stealing some of the money from there, and an expert in money laundering.
00:39:01.000Moving money across the globe, which is what enabled these arms deals with Israel, with the Cote d'Ivoire, with Russia, with everything.
00:39:34.000And so it would make sense for him to, like, the answer to why he gets rich.
00:39:38.000The New York Times wrote about this a few months ago that it seems the secret to how he got rich is he may have just kind of scammed people or robbed people.
00:40:00.000You might have more people who would say, I got scammed and I have to sort of just shrug and go with it because otherwise I'm too humiliated to keep my business going.
00:40:08.000And I wonder if that is sort of the answer.
00:40:11.000What if it's less that he was super plugged in with Intel and more that he would let everyone believe he was super plugged in with Intel and he would feed this narrative?
00:40:21.000Like, what if the answer is just Epstein was really charismatic, really good at tricking and leading people along, and really good at robbing people?
00:40:29.000It would be possible if we didn't have evidence of him brokering Israeli military sales to Cote d'Ivoire.
00:40:35.000That's another thing, is not just Cote d'Ivoire to Mongolia, making a security agreement between those two countries.
00:40:41.000He's at the nexus of an FSB agent who is a graduate, sorry, an FSB graduate of the Academy in Russia, who becomes the head of a major economic development fund in St. Petersburg, who he then later emails for help in getting rid of a woman who is blackmailing very rich people in New York City, including sending her his address asking for help.
00:41:03.000I mean, I'm sorry, like this does not pass the Sorry if I shouldn't curse, but it doesn't pass muster for this idea that he was a scammer because we have too much concrete evidence of his actual dealings with all of these arms trafficking networks, including with other intelligence agencies.
00:41:22.000Another very important email I found in the files this is a file where you see an email exchange between Ehud Barak, the former prime minister of Israel, and Epstein.
00:41:30.000Ehud is meeting with the Qatari investment fund right before Epstein says, by the way, please remind them I don't work for Mossad.
00:41:38.000Right, with the smiley face that's there.
00:41:45.000And in these cases, it's pretty clear that the Qataris thought he did work for Mossad.
00:41:49.000Now, maybe, like you guys said, this is all part of an illusion.
00:41:52.000But there is a bit of a joking nature between Eud Barak and his relationship here with Epstein.
00:41:58.000Eud Barak, by the way, was also the former head of the military intelligence.
00:42:01.000He helped Epstein, by the way, funded millions of dollars into one of his defense technology startups, a Palantir esque spyware type system.
00:42:10.000Which we have long seen that we use private conduits, people like Epstein, to fund some of these black activities that happen outside of the normal official parameters of the CIA.
00:42:22.000By the way, bringing it back to Iran Contra, maybe some of the audience doesn't even know what I'm talking about.
00:42:27.000The reason why Iran Contra was so significant is that it was the CIA and the intelligence community that was doing what it had always done, except now we're in a post church committee environment.
00:42:38.000So after the church committee, with real oversight by the United States government and Congress, they can no longer just You know, fund arms here, traffic some drugs there, send arms to over here.
00:42:48.000What they have to do is use these arms dealing sketchy conduits like Epstein, like Khashoggi, like we have Douglas Lee, so many others that were implicated in the scheme.
00:44:08.000Well, so I think that my conclusion here is approximately this that when you are a business and you put out an RFP, right, for a request for proposal, and there's a couple of different people that could meet your needs.
00:44:25.000And then they send you back what they can do, and then you pick one.
00:44:28.000I think Epstein was just a gun for hire out there that if you wanted to do something sketchy, maybe he could kind of facilitate it here, make it look kind of by the books or whatever.
00:45:00.000I have one last question for you, Sager, and then we've got probably one minute.
00:45:05.000So, at this hearing with Pam Bondi, you had all these victims stand up behind.
00:45:10.000But then I find out, because I was looking at Michael Tracy's Twitter, they were all adults at the time when the sexual activities happened.
00:45:22.000They were getting money, some of them were getting cars, kickbacks, whatever, tuition, How is this different than just prostitution, which would be sort of consensual?
00:45:34.000I'm confused there because victims wouldn't, you think that they're underage or something.
00:45:54.000But again, it gets to this point of I think what I'm.
00:45:59.000Pushing back against is this idea that there was like, I think because the narrative is that there's all these underage girls that got, you know, trapped and drugged and done to do things against sacrifice.
00:46:12.000Yeah, like, and really it was basic prostitution, is what it seems like.
00:46:16.000It was basic prostitution in the cases that you're talking about.
00:46:19.000But remember, even in the original indictment in which he ends up where he's charged, that he does admit to a 17 year old and a 14 year old was also there.
00:46:31.000I really just pushed back hard against this idea because, like, flying women across the world to have sex with them is an expressed violation of the Mann Act.
00:46:42.000Conservatives, we have to stand up and be like, absolutely not.
00:46:45.000Like, we protect women who are being deeply exploited in these Eastern European countries, sold false bills of goods, who are saying they're going to some model, being pressured on an island, like you're saying in the 1990s or in the 2000s when there's no internet or able to escape.
00:47:00.000So, you know, I'm, look, I may be getting a bit prickly on this, but.
00:47:04.000You know, just because people are of age doesn't mean that they're not being exploited.
00:47:13.000What I'm pushing back against is this I think there's this it's just a narrative around Epstein where it's just all of these I think you just assume it's underage and they were all 14 and then you find out Virginia was recruiting them.