The Charlie Kirk Show - Defining “The New Right” with Saurabh Sharma

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today's Charlie Kirk Show.

00:00:01.000 What is the new right?

00:00:02.000 We've asked that question before, but we talk about how the conservatives need to use political power to fight the left.

00:00:09.000 A very interesting conversation from my friend at AmericanMoment.org, SORAB Sharma.

00:00:16.000 And then we have a pro-life leader whose clinic was firebombed by abortion activists.

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00:01:41.000 There's a lot of different directions we could take this conversation, but I like having thought leaders that are in the movement, but not necessarily focused on the politics of it, but more on the philosophy and the general direction of where we are headed ideologically.

00:02:00.000 It's very interesting to me, as many people know on this program.

00:02:05.000 I've talked about that I was once kind of a naive neoliberal because I thought that was the country we lived in.

00:02:12.000 And I thought that the other side would just stop with their intense game playing and their bullying if we would just kind of come to a détente, how naive I was.

00:02:21.000 The new right, the new conservative movement understands what time it is and what is necessary to reclaim our great country.

00:02:30.000 One of those thought leaders is someone who runs an organization called American Moment, AmericanMoment.org.

00:02:38.000 And that's SORAB Sharma.

00:02:40.000 Welcome to the program.

00:02:41.000 Thanks for having me on, Charlie.

00:02:44.000 So a lot of different directions we could take this.

00:02:46.000 Let's first just give you an opportunity to introduce your organization, American Moment.

00:02:50.000 What are you seeking to accomplish?

00:02:53.000 Well, the way I like to put it is that we have a what and a why.

00:02:53.000 Sure thing.

00:02:57.000 During the last year of the Trump administration, I was looking around.

00:03:00.000 I'd had some experience working in Texas politics, thought I was just going to go to the private sector and retire from that game for a while.

00:03:06.000 But I felt like this revolution that President Trump had started in the Republican Party and the conservative movement, it was at risk because people were looking to go back to that dead consensus as soon as President Trump left.

00:03:20.000 So we thought that there was a major need to build infrastructure for this new right.

00:03:27.000 People who take immigration seriously, who think that maybe these endless wars have been a bad idea, who think maybe it wasn't the best idea we deindustrialize the country, people who are actually willing to fight on culture.

00:03:37.000 And one of the pieces of infrastructure that was really missing was that the personnel pipeline is completely broken in American politics, especially on the right.

00:03:44.000 You just don't have a pipeline of talented, capable, conservative, especially in this way, people moving into these roles that no one elects but have enormous amounts of power.

00:03:55.000 The people who undermine President Trump from the inside of his administration for the better part of four years.

00:04:01.000 So we decided to create an organization that would build up that pipeline from scratch.

00:04:04.000 That's what American Moment is.

00:04:06.000 The what is personnel and the why is this America first agenda that ranges across all the issues?

00:04:11.000 And that's actually capable of, A, you know, animating a right that's useful to the country, but also a right that can win.

00:04:20.000 It's so important.

00:04:21.000 You know, I spent a lot of time in the Trump White House, especially in 18, 19, 20 as a visitor and helping with certain projects.

00:04:28.000 And there was this constant plea for personnel that they couldn't find people that agreed with Trump's ideas.

00:04:34.000 And so they would have to just kind of make concessions.

00:04:36.000 Like, all right, there's this guy, and he's good at what he does, but he disagrees with us on every core issue.

00:04:43.000 Why do you think that has been a problem for so long?

00:04:45.000 Has it been a funding problem?

00:04:46.000 Has it been that the international corporations have been so focused on trying to create the proper personnel apparatus?

00:04:53.000 Why is this such an issue?

00:04:54.000 It's a great question.

00:04:55.000 I think there's probably two elements to it.

00:04:57.000 One, why is it easier for the left to do this than for the right to do this?

00:05:01.000 Well, if you think about it, if you're on the left of center and you're thinking about going into a presidential administration, you could really come from and go to anywhere in America.

00:05:10.000 Our biggest universities, the massive nonprofit foundations, not just the lefty ones, but the centrist civic engagement ones, all of corporate America, the C-suites.

00:05:19.000 There's really a bevy of options for where we can pull, where the left can pull people from and where they can send them to before and after administrations.

00:05:29.000 Meanwhile, just put aside any ideological specifics, if you're on the right of center, there's just a lot fewer places.

00:05:35.000 You're not getting these people from universities.

00:05:38.000 You're getting them less and less from the C-suite because there's cancellation campaigns for anyone to the right of Jen Rubin at the Washington Post. 0.71

00:05:46.000 There's just a lot fewer places to pull these people from.

00:05:49.000 And so what do you have left?

00:05:51.000 Well, you have the small constellation of conservative nonprofits, foundations, these entities that have been propped up by the institutional right for the last 40 years.

00:05:59.000 And what are their priorities?

00:06:00.000 Well, their priorities have been a very particular vision of conservatism, the idea that what matters is low taxes on fiscal issues, on social issues, we'll occasionally mouth about religious liberty and abortion.

00:06:13.000 On foreign policy, we're going to be absolutely demented and go to war at all places at all times.

00:06:19.000 And on immigration, we're going to maybe have a four-word immigration policy, legal, good, illegal, bad, which is the way a child thinks about a public policy issue.

00:06:27.000 And so there really was no institutional place where the right could pull these people from.

00:06:32.000 And when you think about the dominant mode of thought that existed on the right of center for the last 20 to 40 years, one that the only thing it had to say about the federal government is that it hates the federal government.

00:06:43.000 And look, I really dislike the federal government too.

00:06:46.000 When you're talking about giving people a calling, the ability to be these soldiers inside these bureaucratic apparatuses who hate us and dedicating their lives to it, it's really hard to sustain yourself on hatred alone.

00:06:58.000 You have to have a vision of what you're going to do with power when you get it.

00:07:01.000 And that was really lacking.

00:07:03.000 And so we have this confluence of these different issues.

00:07:06.000 One, it's just harder for the right.

00:07:07.000 And then two, the few places we could pull people from the right, we had a very particular worldview.

00:07:13.000 And that all ultimately inured to President Trump's revolution being stunted in some ways in the White House.

00:07:18.000 It's a problem we're not making again, I promise you that.

00:07:21.000 But it really does sometimes frustrate me.

00:07:23.000 And I'm sure it's frustrated you on the missed opportunities we had.

00:07:27.000 Oh, totally.

00:07:28.000 Yeah, so totally.

00:07:29.000 Talk for our audience a little bit.

00:07:30.000 We have about four minutes here about neoliberalism.

00:07:34.000 We've explored this in many different episodes at great length.

00:07:37.000 I'd love kind of your take, your flavor on this.

00:07:40.000 Why is it that that was so dominant in the early years that I got started, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16?

00:07:46.000 Why is it tempting to believe in it?

00:07:48.000 And what is so structurally and fundamentally wrong with neoliberalism?

00:07:53.000 Well, at its core, neoliberalism was a policy agenda that operated on openness, freedom in a very particular corporate sort of way across every policy area.

00:08:04.000 So, on immigration, it said that, you know, maybe we believe in some border security, but really you want mass immigration across all of it.

00:08:11.000 In corporate America, whatever a Fortune 500 company wanted, that was going to be the dominant policy mode.

00:08:17.000 On social issues, live and let live, laissez-faire.

00:08:21.000 It doesn't really matter what kind of culture, what kind of society you live in.

00:08:24.000 After all, you don't want to be called a bigot.

00:08:26.000 It was sort of a comprehensive agenda that said that there is no role for government in shaping and forming virtuous citizens for the creation and preservation of a great republic.

00:08:37.000 And that works for a little while. 0.72

00:08:39.000 It works when you're coming off the heels of two world wars where you're the only industrial power, you're the most Christian country in the world, and you have a robust base to spend from. 0.59

00:08:50.000 And that's what we did over the 70s, the 80s, and the 90s. 0.70

00:08:53.000 We took the legacy that the founders of America, the settlers of this country, and generations of patriots built, and we spent it down in service of cheaper goods, of easy policy, of not really making hard fights.

00:09:09.000 And that was a dominant mode in both parties.

00:09:13.000 It existed in everyone from Bill Clinton to George W. Bush to Mitt Romney and others.

00:09:17.000 And the reason it was so dominant on the right is because it was easy.

00:09:20.000 At the end of the day, it's so much easier to say that red state governance or red American governance is just blue America with lower taxes, with slightly less hostility towards Christianity, as opposed to actually having a comprehensive, original vision for what the future of the country looks like.

00:09:39.000 Look, I think Alexandria Ocasio-Portez is crazy, but her Green New Deal is a plan. 1.00

00:09:45.000 It's a vision for what the country looks like in 5, 15, and 50 years.

00:09:50.000 Most Republican members of Congress have no plan.

00:09:52.000 They would stare dumbfounded at you and start drooling if you asked them what their vision for the country is.

00:09:57.000 And that's really what the right needs to get out of the mindset of is this crisis of imagination, this poverty of thought that they've had for the last 30 years.

00:10:06.000 That is a disagreement on the new right, which is there's some that really want to be kind of traditionalist conservatives and say, hey, we need to not embrace any sort of imaginative ideas.

00:10:17.000 We already have it all.

00:10:18.000 There's some people that say, you know, we have to build new things and we should be unafraid in kind of ancient wisdom and understanding the laws of nature and nature's God to start new companies and to think ambitiously.

00:10:29.000 I'd love your talk.

00:10:30.000 I'd love your take on that kind of tension because I've heard it both ways.

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00:10:52.000 A team member that we have at Turning Point USA literally just had his bank account shut down by Bank of America.

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00:13:11.000 So what should the vision for the new conservative movement be?

00:13:15.000 Charlie, you said that there's this tension between what the right should do.

00:13:20.000 Should we build new institutions?

00:13:21.000 Should we reform existing ones?

00:13:22.000 Should we just wipe the table off?

00:13:24.000 And I think that that's the second part to this.

00:13:27.000 We have this vision for a cohesive agenda on trade, immigration, foreign policy, all this stuff.

00:13:31.000 But there's a second dimension to it, which is some people have called it exit versus voice.

00:13:37.000 Should we leave blue states behind and purple states behind and all flee to Florida?

00:13:43.000 Florida's a nice place to live.

00:13:45.000 Or voice, should we fight for the institutions we have in the places that we have them?

00:13:49.000 And my general approach to this question is all of the above.

00:13:53.000 My riff on this is that you build what you need, you reform what you can, and you destroy what you must in that order.

00:13:59.000 And so I'm a big fan of a multiplicity of approaches to these questions.

00:14:03.000 And so the thing I'm trying to avoid in general as we're building American Moment is encouraging a mindset where we do the same mistake that the right historically made, which is a version of live and let live as a tactical strategy, which is basically just whenever things start to get bad, you leave because the left is fighting you and better to just escape their wrath.

00:14:26.000 At the end of the day, the left is never stopping.

00:14:29.000 They're never going to leave you alone.

00:14:30.000 There's nowhere you can retreat to.

00:14:32.000 No sweet potato farm out in the prairie where they'll leave you alone.

00:14:35.000 They want to come for your kids.

00:14:37.000 Kamal Harris will show up at your door with an injection full of hormones for your seven-year-old one day if you don't stay and fight in the political arena.

00:14:44.000 And so we need to build new businesses for Red America.

00:14:46.000 We need to take over the federal government when we get power and use it to advance the interests of our voters. 0.87

00:14:53.000 And we need to try to reform institutions that have gone astray, both inside the conservative movement and out.

00:15:00.000 It's going to take that multiplicity of approaches.

00:15:03.000 Why is it that conservatives are so afraid of using power?

00:15:08.000 Well, some of it's ideological, right?

00:15:10.000 People have been told for the last 40 years that it would be unprincipled in order to use power to advance our interests. 0.85

00:15:16.000 I think that's a silly argument.

00:15:18.000 And some of it's laziness, to be entirely honest.

00:15:21.000 One of the things I'm sure has frustrated you over the years, Charlie, is that it feels like most of the organizations on the right of center are interested in what I call conservatism studies, just constantly being huffing their own you-know-what about the conservative movement, the conservative tradition, and a bunch of things written between 1955 and 1995, as opposed to actively being engaged on policy advancing the interests of our voters.

00:15:49.000 It's a lot easier to talk your own shop, to talk your own dogma and pretend like you're doing something than to actually do something.

00:15:56.000 And so I think that some of it comes out of ideological reasons.

00:15:59.000 Some of it comes out of just laziness.

00:16:01.000 And eventually that ossifies when you have people who've been sitting in their sinecures for 40 years into people who don't know anything else.

00:16:08.000 They only know how to talk the same victory lap they have for 45 years about some of the great things the conservative movement did during the Reagan administration.

00:16:17.000 They'd be out of a job if that wasn't what we were talking about all the time.

00:16:21.000 So this is why at the end of the day, new blood ends up being really important for a lot of things.

00:16:26.000 But that's my assessment of why that happens.

00:16:29.000 Yeah, I think that there's an understandable concern about centralized power.

00:16:34.000 I share that concern and so do you.

00:16:36.000 We believe that we don't like tyranny.

00:16:38.000 We don't like authoritarianism.

00:16:39.000 But we have allowed that concern and that fear of leftist authoritarianism to prevent us from using any instrument of power to ever try to stop the left or preserve liberty or freedom.

00:16:52.000 A great example is like this drag queen thing.

00:16:55.000 We should be unafraid to use political power to ban children from going to drag queen anything. 0.55

00:17:01.000 Period. 0.99

00:17:01.000 End of story. 0.99

00:17:02.000 We shouldn't allow teenagers to be able to get chemical castration drugs.

00:17:07.000 Now, some conservatives that call themselves conservatives, like Asa Hutchinson, the current governor of Arkansas, you might remember that back and forth with Tucker Carlson.

00:17:15.000 He's like, well, no, the conservative thing is just to sit by and do nothing.

00:17:17.000 No, no, that's a libertarian thing.

00:17:20.000 Conservatives generally don't like using government if not necessary, if not necessary.

00:17:25.000 But if we have political power and we see something bad happening, we are going to intervene to protect children, protect things that are good.

00:17:34.000 Your thoughts?

00:17:35.000 Silence is violence, beats don't tread on me every single time.

00:17:39.000 The left believes that if you don't actively advance their evangelical leftist religion, that you are a bigot and they will ruin your life for it.

00:17:46.000 The right's answer to that has historically been, don't tread on me, leave me alone.

00:17:50.000 We're going to lose every single time unless we start to use power.

00:17:53.000 And I think it's perfectly all right to say that seven-year-olds getting perverted adults to gyrate in front of them, stopping that using government power is just fine.

00:18:03.000 William F. Buckley is not going to spin in his grave.

00:18:07.000 What you just heard is the new right, AmericanMoment.org.

00:18:10.000 We need more politicians to talk like this or else we're going to lose the country. 0.69

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00:19:02.000 So it seems in a couple of days, maybe a couple of weeks, the United States Supreme Court is going to repeal Roe versus Wade, which would bring abortion, which would send abortion back down to the states.

00:19:11.000 It's a states' rights issue.

00:19:13.000 Unfortunately, as this has been rumored because it was illegally leaked, still no arrest because of the leak, we have started to see a mass amount of violence against pro-life centers across America, firebombing, and vandalism.

00:19:28.000 One of those centers happened in New York City, and the person who runs that is the guy by the name of James R. Hardin, Reverend James R. Hardin, who's the CEO of Compass Care Pregnancy Services, and he joins us right now.

00:19:40.000 James, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:19:43.000 Oh, thank you.

00:19:43.000 It's an honor to be here with you, Charlie.

00:19:46.000 Tell us about what happened to your clinic.

00:19:49.000 Well, about a week ago Tuesday, police and fire rescue responded to smoke coming out of our facility at 2.30 in the morning, and they arrived to find broken glass and fires lit in our facility.

00:20:01.000 And on the wall was scrawled, Jane was here, a signature kind of trademark for a pro-abortion terrorist group called Jane's Revenge.

00:20:11.000 Jane's Revenge refers to an underground abortion group in you know, in Chicago in the 1960s called the Jane's Collective.

00:20:22.000 And so they're not about women's rights.

00:20:24.000 They're not about choice.

00:20:25.000 They're about abortion.

00:20:26.000 Their motto is if abortion isn't safe, then neither are you.

00:20:30.000 And their intent was to shut us down and to scare us.

00:20:33.000 But they didn't.

00:20:33.000 We were up and running the very next day.

00:20:35.000 We had to reroute patients out to our Rochester facility, put some hardship on our patients, but we're continuing to serve patients even now.

00:20:42.000 And we will stop and we're not afraid.

00:20:45.000 Well, God bless you for that.

00:20:46.000 So you were firebombed.

00:20:47.000 Has anyone been arrested?

00:20:48.000 Is there an act of investigation into this act of terrorism on your clinic?

00:20:53.000 Yes.

00:20:53.000 As a matter of fact, we had reason to believe that there were increasing threats to our facilities, given the activity that was going on with Jane's Revenge, fomenting violence against pregnancy centers, as well as some local activity that was going on.

00:21:07.000 And we notified the police ahead of time, at least a month and a half, as well as the FBI.

00:21:12.000 So they were investigating this beforehand.

00:21:16.000 Now, once it happened, they've activated multiple agencies, and the Amherst Police Department are doing a fantastic job.

00:21:27.000 I apologize for all the noise in the background.

00:21:29.000 We're actually in the process of getting our office secured because of the threats.

00:21:34.000 No problem at all.

00:21:35.000 So there have been arrests yet, but here's the great irony, and it's not even irony, it's a tragedy.

00:21:41.000 So your governor, Governor Hochl of New York, signed a bill to investigate pro-life pregnancy centers instead of pro-abortion arsonists.

00:21:48.000 Tell us about that, Jim.

00:21:51.000 It really is a horrific moment. 0.99

00:21:57.000 This is the pro-abortion Kristallnacht. 0.85

00:21:59.000 Okay. 0.88

00:22:00.000 You know what Kristallnacht is.

00:22:02.000 It's the watershed moment when people targeted Jewish businesses in 1938 in Nazi Germany, essentially breaking their glass in the dark of night and burning out their businesses.

00:22:13.000 And the two things that caused it to be a watershed moment, us fomenting violence to the Jewish community after that was number one, a lack of outcry from the community.

00:22:22.000 And number two, a refusal on the part of the political elite to denounce the violence. 0.65

00:22:26.000 And that's what we've got here.

00:22:27.000 Governor Hochl is essentially fomenting the violence, but she's complicit in this pro-abortion Kristallnacht.

00:22:36.000 Not only did we get firebombed, not only did she send $34 million to private practice abortionists to increase their security, knowing full well that we're being targeted, she signs a bill to investigate us, us, yesterday. 0.94

00:22:50.000 This is insult to injury is absolutely ridiculous. 0.81

00:22:53.000 She is complicit in the pro-abortion Kristallnacht. 0.94

00:22:55.000 And so is Joe Biden for all intents and purposes.

00:22:59.000 What are they investigating you for?

00:23:01.000 I mean, your clinic probably does very, you know, run-of-the-mill pregnancy crisis center work of trying to save babies from potential termination.

00:23:10.000 What would they possibly investigate you for?

00:23:12.000 Well, they're investigating us because we don't perform or refer for abortionists.

00:23:15.000 They're investigating us because we are not one of them.

00:23:20.000 And, you know, technically they're saying they're looking to see if we're standing in the way of women accessing health care and getting their needs met.

00:23:30.000 And that's what we do.

00:23:32.000 We're all about meeting the unmet health care needs of women and giving them comprehensive resources in order to have their baby. 1.00

00:23:38.000 We're about giving women true choice.

00:23:40.000 When a woman faces an unplanned pregnancy, she says, I'm stuck.

00:23:43.000 I'm trapped.

00:23:44.000 I've gotten more of the choice.

00:23:45.000 I need to have an abortion. 1.00

00:23:47.000 And our mission is to erase the need for abortion by transforming her fear and a confidence.

00:23:51.000 And we do that with ethical medical care and comprehensive community support for free.

00:23:56.000 I mean, think about that.

00:23:57.000 When's the last time you've got an abortionist coming out saying, hey, we're going to give you your abortion for free? 1.00

00:24:01.000 Abortion is not anything other than abandonment. 0.96

00:24:04.000 It is society's way of saying, we don't want to have anything to do with these women. 1.00

00:24:07.000 Just give us the money. 1.00

00:24:08.000 We'll give you an abortion and get out of our way. 1.00

00:24:12.000 That is what abortion represents. 1.00

00:24:13.000 The abortion industry is reeling right now and they're having trouble keeping up.

00:24:18.000 Here's what's happening.

00:24:19.000 As you just described, when Roe versus Wait is reversed, abortion will not be outlawed.

00:24:25.000 Abortion will simply move to New York and California.

00:24:28.000 And they've got this new kind of hub and spoke model.

00:24:31.000 That's their business plan.

00:24:32.000 Hubband Spoke.

00:24:33.000 And Governor Hokul and Governor Newsom out of California are going to have taxpayer dollars paying for women's travel expenses and their abortions to fly from conservative states for abortion tourism. 0.75

00:24:43.000 Abortion tourism is the next thing. 1.00

00:24:44.000 And we've got a plan. 0.97

00:24:45.000 And I think that's why we're attacked. 0.64

00:24:46.000 We've got a plan and we're working that plan to essentially complete the abolition of Roe by essentially giving pregnancy centers the tools, the 21st century tools they need to serve every single woman in America who's seriously considering abortion before she travels and before she goes online to get those chemical abortion drugs.

00:25:06.000 And you mentioned something so interesting.

00:25:08.000 So a theme of our show is that live and let live is dead.

00:25:11.000 This was a promise of the left.

00:25:13.000 You know, just let us do our thing and you'll let you do your thing.

00:25:16.000 That is never true.

00:25:17.000 If that was true, then why would they be coming after your pregnancy crisis center?

00:25:20.000 Like, okay, you do Planned Parenthood.

00:25:22.000 You do your pregnancy crisis center.

00:25:24.000 You kind of just do your own thing.

00:25:26.000 No, they want to come into your business.

00:25:29.000 Elaborate on that a little bit.

00:25:31.000 Yeah, they want to come into our business and tell us what to do.

00:25:35.000 They want to shut us down.

00:25:38.000 And it's not going to work.

00:25:40.000 We're called of God, and by we, I mean everyone, to essentially say, look, we're all made in the image of God, and therefore we're all inviolable, not to be violated.

00:25:52.000 We're all worthy of blessing and protection because we're made in the image of God.

00:25:56.000 That's the message of the Bible.

00:25:57.000 That is the basic point of entry for all civilized societies.

00:26:02.000 If you don't agree on that point, if you don't agree on the fact that everybody, that human dignity is universal, you can't go anywhere.

00:26:10.000 The justice system means nothing.

00:26:12.000 It's got nothing to be to be based on.

00:26:14.000 That's such a good point.

00:26:15.000 So in closing here, can you just, for our audience that isn't aware, and believe it or not, most conservatives are not even aware.

00:26:23.000 What is a pregnancy resource center? 0.92

00:26:26.000 Just walk through the kind of services you provide, how you're able to help women make the choice for life.

00:26:32.000 Yeah, a pregnancy resource center, a pro-life pregnancy resource center, is an organization that reaches out to women who are finding themselves in an unplanned pregnancy and seriously considering abortion.

00:26:44.000 And we serve them with baseline medical care, OB care, STD testing and treatment.

00:26:49.000 We even provide chemical abortion reversal treatments, which are great.

00:26:53.000 If a woman changes her mind in the middle of a chemical abortion process, we can help reverse those effects and help her save the baby.

00:27:01.000 We also provide comprehensive support both during the pregnancy and beyond so that she can see her way clear to having her baby.

00:27:11.000 And that's the goal.

00:27:13.000 Very few women go on and have an abortion if they have the support and security that they need, giving them a vision of their future after having had abortion, having had their baby.

00:27:22.000 And it's a great, wonderful ministry.

00:27:25.000 The impact of pro-life pregnancy centers all across the country over the years has saved millions of lives, and millions of women are grateful for these services.

00:27:36.000 Amen.

00:27:36.000 Well, thank you for your wonderful work.

00:27:38.000 What is the name of your clinic and how can people support you?

00:27:42.000 Compass Care Pregnancy Services is the name of our organization.

00:27:45.000 We have multiple locations in abortion hub cities all across New York.

00:27:49.000 They can go to erasingthene.com.

00:27:50.000 That's part of our mission statement: erasingthead.

00:27:53.000 We're a Christ-centered agency dedicated to erasing the need for abortion by transforming a woman's fear into confidence.

00:28:00.000 I love that.

00:28:01.000 God bless you.

00:28:01.000 We're 100% behind you, and thank you for your great work.

00:28:04.000 I understand you have 10 children as well.

00:28:06.000 Is that right?

00:28:07.000 Yes, that's right.

00:28:08.000 My wife and children had to relocate due to threats of intimidation, but everybody's doing well.

00:28:12.000 Thank you very much.

00:28:12.000 Yeah, we can be homeschooled, by the way.

00:28:15.000 It's amazing.

00:28:16.000 God bless you.

00:28:17.000 You are a true patriot in fighting for liberty and life.

00:28:19.000 God bless you.

00:28:20.000 Thank you.

00:28:20.000 Charlie.

00:28:21.000 God bless.

00:28:23.000 We're blessed to live in the greatest nation ever to exist in the history of the world.

00:28:27.000 Luke 12:48 says, 'Oh, to whom much has been given, much will be required.' We as Christians can shape our world.

00:28:34.000 One of these ways is how we steward our finances and our money.

00:28:37.000 If you have money and stocks, you have the power to affect change through your investments.

00:28:41.000 Jesus spoke about money in roughly 15% of his teachings and 11 out of 39 of his parables.

00:28:47.000 How do we follow his teachings about money?

00:28:49.000 Well, my friends at PAX Financial can help.

00:28:51.000 I've opened an account with them.

00:28:52.000 I think very highly of them.

00:28:53.000 They are fiduciaries that will make sure you have a responsible plan to retire.

00:28:57.000 I trust them with my money, and I hope you will as well.

00:29:00.000 But look, they'll also help you invest in companies that align with your beliefs.

00:29:04.000 No companies that engage in pornography or in excessive drinking or in a degenerate lifestyle.

00:29:11.000 If you have $150,000 to invest, please text my name, Charlie, to the number 74868.

00:29:18.000 And even if you don't have $150,000, maybe they'll make an exception for you.

00:29:21.000 I don't know, but just learn more about them.

00:29:23.000 Look, text Charlie to 74868.

00:29:26.000 Take advantage of the power to make a difference with your money.

00:29:29.000 PAX Financial.

00:29:30.000 It was great for me.

00:29:31.000 I think it will be terrific for you.

00:29:35.000 I want to play some pieces of tape here.

00:29:38.000 How do you control a president who's increasingly unpopular?

00:29:44.000 Answer: you threaten to put his son in jail.

00:29:48.000 New revelations show Hunter Biden bragging on his iPhone with an audio file that he can get his father to do anything he wants him to.

00:29:58.000 If I say it's important to me, then he will work in a way to which to make it part of his platform.

00:30:03.000 I thought they never talked about business.

00:30:05.000 Play Cut 44.

00:30:06.000 He's going to talk about Joe Good Four and any other things I want him to.

00:30:10.000 He'll talk about anything that I want him to that he believes in.

00:30:14.000 If I say this is important to me, then he will work a way in which to make it a part of his platform.

00:30:22.000 My dad respects me more than he respects anyone in the world, and I know that to be certain.

00:30:26.000 Respects him more than he respects anybody in the world.

00:30:31.000 It explains a lot.

00:30:33.000 It really does.

00:30:35.000 The country is going downhill right now.

00:30:38.000 And one of the ways that they're going to keep Joe Biden in a place of compliance to keep Joe Biden obedient is the constant threat that Hunter Biden might be indicted and go to jail.

00:30:51.000 Hunter Biden, based on all the information available, violated a multitude of federal crimes and is currently being investigated by the federal government.

00:30:59.000 Now, will he actually be able to, will he go to jail post-jury?

00:31:03.000 Will his father pardon him?

00:31:05.000 These are all very fair and important questions.

00:31:09.000 But very similar to how the Democrats need to keep their own on their toes, like Andrew Cuomo off the chessboard.

00:31:18.000 They need to make Joe Biden afraid that if he missteps and he doesn't follow the ways of the regime, then Hunter might be indicted.

00:31:29.000 This is one of the ways they can continue to control Joe Biden to make sure that he does not waver and go closer to the middle.

00:31:35.000 It's one of the reasons why Joe Biden continually is radical.

00:31:38.000 The threat of indictment against Hunter Biden is leverage against Joe Biden.

00:31:45.000 Play Cut 52.

00:31:46.000 This is Hunter's ex-wife and how she conceded all financial control to Hunter and where that mistake led them.

00:31:51.000 Play Cut 52.

00:31:52.000 Her decision to let him control their finances.

00:31:55.000 You say you weren't really involved in the finances at all.

00:31:58.000 This was one of the harder parts for me to write and to acknowledge.

00:32:03.000 It's embarrassing to say that I ceded all financial control to my husband.

00:32:10.000 Do you know why you did that?

00:32:12.000 I liked the nice things and I didn't want to think about the cost at which they were coming.

00:32:21.000 Writing this book really helped me to understand how unfair that was to Hunter and how unhealthy that was for me.

00:32:32.000 It was in 2003 when Hunter returned from rehab the first time, and he tells you something about the tax situation.

00:32:40.000 What did he tell you?

00:32:41.000 That we owed money and taxes, but that he had set up a payment plan.

00:32:48.000 Oh, financially destroying something must run in the family.

00:32:53.000 Joe and Hunter share that in common.

00:32:57.000 The way that the media is covering the Hunter Biden saga is very interesting.

00:33:02.000 So the media has many different approaches on how to handle these situations.

00:33:07.000 You could turn someone like Hunter Biden into a villain and cast him aside.

00:33:11.000 They did this to Andrew Cuomo, but they've decided that's not useful to their broader goals.

00:33:16.000 Instead, they turn Hunter Biden into a victim.

00:33:21.000 Not to say that Hunter Biden didn't do anything wrong, but he was struggling with addiction.

00:33:25.000 He could barely get by.

00:33:27.000 We must feel sorry for him.

00:33:29.000 This is going to be the approach that the media will take towards Hunter: they want you to feel sorry for him.

00:33:36.000 Come on, stop covering him. 1.00

00:33:38.000 He's just a sick person. 0.99

00:33:39.000 No, it's not about Hunter Biden and his drug addiction and his financial inability to manage his finances. 0.99

00:33:44.000 It's about that he leveraged his father as a sitting vice president and presidential candidate and weakened American national security for personal financial gain.

00:33:54.000 Doesn't matter how many sad songs that they play or how sorry they make you feel for him.

00:34:01.000 The takeaway is that our country is in a far, much more dangerous place because of this than it was previously.

00:34:10.000 That they prioritize their family's wealth above the well-being of America.

00:34:17.000 Thank you so much for listening, everybody.

00:34:19.000 Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com and get involved at TurningPointUSA at tpusa.com.

00:34:24.000 Thanks so much for listening.

00:34:25.000 God bless.

00:34:29.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - June 15, 2022

Defining “The New Right” with Saurabh Sharma

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