The Charlie Kirk Show - July 01, 2022


Democrat Wolves in Sheep's Clothing with John Gibbs and Kristan Hawkins


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In this episode, Charlie Kirk sits down with John Gibbs to discuss his campaign to unseat Rep. Peter Meyer in Michigan s 6th congressional district. John Gibbs is a former Marine and Army vet who served in the Marine Corps and the Navy SEAL Team Six. He is now running for Congress in the 6th district of Michigan and has been a long time supporter of Turning Point USA and other conservative causes.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today in the Charlie Kirk Show, we have Kristen Hawkins to help talk about the latest with Roe versus Wade and John Gibbs, a great candidate in Western Michigan, who is running to unseat Peter Meyer.
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00:00:46.000 I love hearing from you.
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00:00:50.000 Buckle up. 0.96
00:00:50.000 Here we go. 0.96
00:00:51.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:00:53.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses.
00:00:55.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
00:00:59.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
00:01:02.000 I want to thank Charlie.
00:01:03.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:01:04.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:01:12.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:21.000 That's why we are here.
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00:01:33.000 I'm going to tell you a story.
00:01:35.000 Growing up in Chicago, love Chicago, love visiting.
00:01:38.000 I'll actually be there in about a week and a half, speaking in Wisconsin to a great organization there.
00:01:45.000 I remember being in Chicago a couple summers ago, and Turning Point Action was starting a series of Super Saturdays.
00:01:52.000 Turning Point Action did a series of door knocking campaigns across America organized by the great Tyler Boyer and the whole Turning Point Action team, separate from the educational ventures of Turning Point USA.
00:02:03.000 So I remember I was in Chicago and I drove to Grand Rapids, Michigan.
00:02:07.000 That's not an easy drive for those of you that have done it throughout the night because the next morning we were starting our door knocking for a certain candidate in Western Michigan.
00:02:17.000 I got up very early and rallied the troops and told everybody that in Western Michigan, we need to put our forces together to go get a certain person elected by the name of Peter Meyer.
00:02:29.000 Now, mind you, I don't know why we endorsed Peter Meyer, largely because I thought it was a flip district or something like that, a way to kind of gain ground.
00:02:36.000 But what an incredible disappointment and letdown Peter Meyer in Western Michigan has become.
00:02:42.000 He has become a camera-seeking, attention-grabbing, self-righteous congressman who voted for the impeachment of Donald Trump as like one of the first things he did right out of the gate.
00:02:53.000 He sprints to try to go on cable television at every single corner imaginable.
00:02:58.000 And he's someone I have very little respect for.
00:03:01.000 And he's got to go and he's got to go right now.
00:03:04.000 And there is a great candidate running against Peter Meyer, who, by the way, some of you might not live in Michigan.
00:03:08.000 Some of you might not have even been to Michigan.
00:03:10.000 Some of you say, I don't really care that much about Michigan.
00:03:12.000 Well, you should.
00:03:12.000 Michigan's a great place.
00:03:13.000 But I will say this.
00:03:15.000 You should care about getting these impeachment voters out of line and better candidates in place.
00:03:23.000 And the man running against him is John Gibbs, who's terrific from Western Michigan.
00:03:27.000 He joins us right now.
00:03:28.000 John, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:03:29.000 Charlie, thanks for having me on.
00:03:30.000 It's great to be able to spend some time with you today.
00:03:33.000 Likewise, tell us why you're running and tell us what is your message against the snake Peter Meyer.
00:03:38.000 Peter Meyer betrayed everyone in our district.
00:03:41.000 Days after being at Congress, man, literally days in there, his first vote he takes is to impeach Trump.
00:03:47.000 People put in their sweat and their tears and their money to Peter Meyer's campaign, helping him win, just as you guys did, Charlie.
00:03:54.000 And he was saying all the right things.
00:03:56.000 People thought he was a real deal.
00:03:57.000 When he got in there, just a few days after, he really backstabbed everyone.
00:04:00.000 So he is not providing leadership.
00:04:02.000 He is not representing the people that voted for him.
00:04:05.000 And so I felt that I needed to do it.
00:04:07.000 I wasn't planning to.
00:04:08.000 After serving our time in the Trump administration, I was maybe going to work for a think tank and be out of the spotlight for a while.
00:04:14.000 But some of our friends from our former White House said, dude, Peter Meyer voted to impeach Trump.
00:04:19.000 You should go back home and run against him.
00:04:21.000 So I decided to pray about it, think about it, get my ducks in a row.
00:04:25.000 I jumped in head first, got President Trump's endorsement, got Dr. Ben Carson's endorsement, who I worked under in the Trump administration, and said, yeah, we really need to do this.
00:04:33.000 We really need to provide leadership for the good people here in West Michigan, which is not getting it right now under Peter Meyer.
00:04:38.000 When is the primary?
00:04:39.000 I think, is it August?
00:04:40.000 Is that right?
00:04:41.000 Yes, it's August 2nd.
00:04:43.000 Okay, so we have a fair amount of time ahead.
00:04:45.000 So you ran the Office of Personnel Management.
00:04:48.000 You were the director of Office of Personnel Management.
00:04:50.000 You were also on the 17.6 Commission to fight critical race theory.
00:04:54.000 So you understand the stakes.
00:04:55.000 You're loyal to the country and loyal to President Trump's agenda.
00:04:59.000 Can you explain to me, though, what is it about Peter Meyer?
00:05:03.000 Because it's so frustrating because I feel as if we're fighting the left.
00:05:07.000 But if our own side doesn't even want to fight the left and instead wants to go be pals with them at Cocktail Parties, then what are we doing here?
00:05:12.000 What are your thoughts on that?
00:05:14.000 That's a great point, Charlie.
00:05:16.000 I was not actually OPM director.
00:05:17.000 I was nominated to be OPM director by President Trump.
00:05:20.000 However, the great Mitt Romney, not, was on my committee and he blocked my nomination.
00:05:25.000 So I was nominated for that.
00:05:26.000 So that speaks right to your point, though.
00:05:28.000 That's crazy.
00:05:28.000 Sorry, continue.
00:05:29.000 Absolutely.
00:05:30.000 Yeah.
00:05:30.000 And that speaks to your point, though, about these rhinos out there.
00:05:34.000 They have this sense of elitism, a huge sense of elitism, pride, arrogance.
00:05:38.000 They don't need to listen to the people that elected them.
00:05:40.000 They don't need to listen to the posts of where our great patriots are around the country.
00:05:44.000 No, they instead are serving a globalist agenda, a very arrogant agenda where they believe that they are a step above everyone else and they have all the right answers, regardless of what anyone else says or what anyone else wants.
00:05:55.000 So there are some in D.C. like that.
00:05:56.000 During my time in the administration, I went toe-to-toe against them.
00:05:59.000 I always told people that before I served in the Trump administration, I never swore.
00:06:03.000 But once I started working in our administration, going up against these rhinos, they will just trigger you and pull out this anger in you because of how they're trying to block the Trump agenda. 1.00
00:06:12.000 They're trying to block what regular people around America want and voted for.
00:06:15.000 And they would just sit there and try to block everything as though they're some kind of Democrat.
00:06:18.000 So it is a big problem.
00:06:19.000 There's a certain type like that out there.
00:06:21.000 And Peter Meyer is exactly that.
00:06:24.000 He doesn't come off very well.
00:06:26.000 He comes off as very arrogant and elitist, even when you see him speak.
00:06:29.000 It's just something to observe.
00:06:30.000 So people see through it.
00:06:32.000 They're sick of it and really want change.
00:06:34.000 Yeah.
00:06:34.000 And so tell us, you know, going to Congress changes a lot of different people.
00:06:39.000 And, you know, there's this narrative from the left that America is this, you know, terribly systemic racist country.
00:06:47.000 And, you know, you're fighting it.
00:06:48.000 You fight against CRT and speaking out against it.
00:06:50.000 What will be your message in Congress to push back against that?
00:06:54.000 Well, when it comes to CRT, my message is very simple.
00:06:57.000 It's a total betrayal of the civil rights movement.
00:07:00.000 The civil rights movement and just basic common sense and Americanism, period, says judge a person by their character.
00:07:06.000 Judge a person by the results they produce, how they treat others, by who they are and how they act, not judge them by race.
00:07:12.000 Well, CRT is so evil and so insidious because it does the exact opposite of that.
00:07:17.000 It says judge a person by their race.
00:07:19.000 So if you're white, you're guilty automatically. 0.96
00:07:21.000 If you're black, you're evicted automatically. 1.00
00:07:23.000 If I had been raised like that, I wouldn't be where I am today. 0.97
00:07:25.000 My parents raised me to shoot for the stars, no barriers at all.
00:07:28.000 Get in there, work hard, and go for it.
00:07:31.000 That is a real American mentality, no matter what background a person comes from.
00:07:34.000 But CRT threatens to derail that.
00:07:36.000 It threatens to pit people against each other, create division, and really take us to a dark place that we don't want to go.
00:07:42.000 So I will stand up and say that in front of anyone.
00:07:44.000 They can try to call me a racist or a white supremacist if they want to.
00:07:48.000 People have done that.
00:07:49.000 I think it's quite comical, and I consider it a badge of honor to be attacked by actual racists trying to call me these names.
00:07:55.000 Let them keep doing what they want to.
00:07:55.000 So it's hilarious.
00:07:57.000 But we have to stand up for what's right.
00:07:58.000 And what is right is that everybody gets treated based on your character, not based on your race.
00:08:02.000 And CRT takes us in an absolutely wrong direction on that.
00:08:07.000 So, in closing here, how is the race going?
00:08:09.000 Meyer has a ton of name ID, comes from some very wealthy connected families, I'm not mistaken.
00:08:14.000 How's the race trending?
00:08:17.000 Every poll I've seen shows that we're up by double digits.
00:08:19.000 So that's very good news.
00:08:21.000 There's a poll out there done by those favorable to Meyer that I hear at least shows that it's apparently tied, but we know that that's probably juiced up a bit.
00:08:29.000 So the results are much better for us.
00:08:30.000 So that's good news. 0.99
00:08:32.000 We are killing him on door knocking. 0.97
00:08:34.000 He is having such a hard time getting people to go out and knock doors for him because he's so unpopular. 0.96
00:08:38.000 Whenever he shows his face in public, he almost gets tarred and feathered.
00:08:41.000 It's quite a sight to see.
00:08:43.000 Whereas we have people out there knocking hundreds of doors every weekend.
00:08:46.000 We still are recruiting more, but we are knocking tons of doors.
00:08:49.000 And when we knock doors, you see about one to two out of 100 that are for Peter Meyer.
00:08:53.000 Just one to two percent.
00:08:55.000 The remaining folks, about half are with me, and the other half haven't heard of me yet.
00:08:58.000 But once we tell them about me, they're very excited.
00:09:00.000 So we're beating them on that.
00:09:02.000 We're beating him on yard signs.
00:09:03.000 Whenever we talk to people, they say, I see your signs everywhere.
00:09:06.000 And so we're continuing to aggressively get those out and get our name ID up.
00:09:10.000 Meyer just started putting us out a very short while ago, and he doesn't have that many out there.
00:09:15.000 He's going to try to buy up all the ads and send out all the mailers, but it's not working.
00:09:19.000 Instead of getting his name out there more, because he's already got name ID, it's only reminding people how much they don't like him when they get his stuff.
00:09:26.000 So I think I'm guardedly optimistic.
00:09:28.000 It looks very good for us as long as we keep working hard, hitting the ground every day.
00:09:32.000 We're going to visit every single city and township in our new district.
00:09:35.000 No exceptions.
00:09:36.000 Meyer's not doing that.
00:09:37.000 He's in New York City or D.C. or in his huge house talking with his Rhino friends on the phone, I guess. 1.00
00:09:43.000 But we're out there with the people every day.
00:09:45.000 We're knocking doors every week.
00:09:46.000 So we like the momentum we're seeing.
00:09:48.000 We like where we're at right now.
00:09:49.000 We've got to keep up the momentum to make sure we preserve that lead going into August 2nd and we win big here.
00:09:55.000 VotejohnGibbs.com, not mistaken, right?
00:09:57.000 That's the website?
00:09:58.000 That is correct, yes.
00:09:59.000 We are behind you.
00:10:00.000 Please take out that snake, Peter Meyer. 0.99
00:10:02.000 He is the worst. 0.99
00:10:03.000 He lied to all of us. 0.99
00:10:05.000 He presented as he was some sort of conservative and he's just been terrible.
00:10:08.000 God bless you.
00:10:09.000 John Gibbs, running for U.S. Congress to change the Republican Party for the better.
00:10:13.000 VotejohnGibbs.com.
00:10:14.000 Thank you so much, John.
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00:11:14.000 I want to play a piece of tape here.
00:11:16.000 It's very telling, and it's something that if you send your kid to college, they will be taught this nonsense.
00:11:22.000 So there is some sort of a NATO summit.
00:11:25.000 There's all these associations.
00:11:26.000 I can't keep them straight.
00:11:28.000 It's a total mess.
00:11:29.000 It looks like Russia, there's no way to defeat Russia. 0.98
00:11:33.000 We don't know where the $56 billion went.
00:11:35.000 Joe Biden is sending another $800 million.
00:11:38.000 We were against aid from the beginning.
00:11:40.000 They should have held transparent elections in the eastern part of Ukraine before any invasion happened and asked the people of eastern Ukraine, do you want to be part of Ukraine or part of Russia and allow self-determination and sovereignty to happen?
00:11:52.000 That would have been the peaceful thing to do.
00:11:54.000 Instead, tens of thousands of people are being killed.
00:11:57.000 Millions of people are being displaced for war games by a neoconservative war industrial complex that is getting fabulously wealth and rich while we can't even secure our own borders.
00:12:09.000 The whole thing in Ukraine is a catastrophe. 1.00
00:12:11.000 The true victims are the people of Ukraine that have to now live in an act of war zone because of the pride and the arrogance of Western forces. 0.97
00:12:18.000 It's ridiculous.
00:12:19.000 However, so kind of around this issue of Putin, Boris Johnson, and can I just say Boris Johnson, I think, has been probably one of the great disappointments of the last couple of years.
00:12:31.000 And that's quite a statement because there's been some winners.
00:12:34.000 I mean, there's been some real beauties of people that have really let us down.
00:12:38.000 Boris Johnson, who came in with the nationalist energy that Nigel Farage started, Nigel Farage, great man, coming into power and has been anything but the bold and courageous leader.
00:12:54.000 It's just hard to find a Churchill, isn't it?
00:12:57.000 Boris Johnson, I think, always saw himself as becoming a Churchill.
00:13:00.000 I want to ask this question.
00:13:01.000 Listen to this quote from Boris Johnson.
00:13:05.000 Could you imagine Churchill saying something like this?
00:13:09.000 Play cut 121.
00:13:12.000 You need more women in positions of power. 1.00
00:13:15.000 If Putin was a woman, which he obviously isn't, but if he were, I really don't think he would have embarked on a crazy macho war of invasion and violence in the way that he has. 0.94
00:13:29.000 You're a perfect example of toxic masculinity. 1.00
00:13:34.000 It's what he's doing in Ukraine. 0.96
00:13:37.000 Yeah, it has nothing to do with the fact that he's sociopathic or wants to conquer lands, but it's the fact that he's masculine.
00:13:45.000 Now, I don't need to go through like a world history lesson, but let me tell you about this one example.
00:13:50.000 How about the Byzantine empress Irene of Athens?
00:13:52.000 You ever heard of her?
00:13:53.000 She gouged out her son's eyes just to retain power. 1.00
00:13:57.000 How about Mary I, who viciously persecuted Protestants, burning some 300 at the stake?
00:14:02.000 Was that toxic masculinity when she did it? 1.00
00:14:04.000 How about Ava Perrone or Elizabeth I of England?
00:14:08.000 How about Cleopatra, who served her enemies' heads on a platter to her visitors as they came in to the mouth of the Nile?
00:14:20.000 How about Empress Wu Zaitan of China, who is willing to eliminate anyone to stay in power, even her own family? 0.63
00:14:28.000 Or how about Mary Queen of the Scots, where we get that drink, that name of the drink that many of you enjoy this summer, literally called her Bloody Mary?
00:14:36.000 Toxic masculinity is what Boris Johnson says. 0.99
00:14:41.000 Look, as Candace Owens said at our Young Women's Leadership Summit, men largely built the Western world, but women raised it. 0.74
00:14:51.000 Not allowed to say that.
00:14:53.000 So I'm just quoting Candace Owens.
00:14:55.000 If you got a problem, you can ask her.
00:14:56.000 She's having a kid right now.
00:14:59.000 Boris Johnson goes out of his way not to talk about the morals or the values, but to indict men.
00:15:06.000 Now, what I think is hilarious about this whole thing is that Boris Johnson says this.
00:15:10.000 I thought we can't define what a woman is. 0.99
00:15:13.000 Is it a...
00:15:13.000 So let me get this straight.
00:15:15.000 If Vladimir Putin was a birthing person. 0.96
00:15:18.000 If Vladimir Putin was a birthing person, he never would have invaded eastern Ukraine. 0.85
00:15:24.000 And by the way, what is the whole aesthetic of Boris Johnson?
00:15:27.000 He always looks like he just got off a treadmill.
00:15:30.000 He's a mess.
00:15:31.000 It's constantly with the hair and it's the permanent disheveled look.
00:15:36.000 Maybe it's appealing.
00:15:40.000 Could you imagine Winston Churchill saying, if Adolf Hitler was a woman, he never would have invaded the British Isle.
00:15:51.000 Maybe Churchill did say something like that.
00:15:53.000 Doubt it.
00:15:56.000 Yeah, you know what we need more of, actually?
00:15:58.000 Boris Johnson, the opposite.
00:16:00.000 We need more strong men that stand against evil.
00:16:02.000 What you call toxic masculinity that's met that's missing is strong men that don't protect the weak.
00:16:09.000 But you wouldn't know that.
00:16:12.000 Boris Johnson.
00:16:14.000 So with us right now is a pro-life warrior who she actually has one of the best campus videos on the life issue I've seen in quite some time. 0.97
00:16:24.000 So much so I reposted on my Instagram of this young lady that can we get that clip actually to play it some let's get that up while we have Kristen here. 1.00
00:16:32.000 Kristen Hawkins, phenomenal pro-life warrior.
00:16:35.000 I saw you right there in front of the Supreme Court as the decision came down.
00:16:39.000 Wonderful students for life.
00:16:40.000 Kristen, welcome back to the program.
00:16:42.000 Thanks for having me, Charlie.
00:16:43.000 Good to talk to you again.
00:16:44.000 Thank you.
00:16:45.000 Congratulations.
00:16:45.000 It's been many years of work for you and so many others.
00:16:48.000 Just first, your initial reaction, Roe versus Wade being overturned.
00:16:53.000 Yeah, I mean, it's almost indescribable to talk about this moment that we've been working for for 50 years to see the court admit that it was wrong, egregiously wrong in 1973 and disregarding the science of human life and when it begins.
00:17:08.000 But to know that this decision, immediately after this decision came down, states started to act to ban abortions, shutting down abortion facilities.
00:17:18.000 Within one day, we knew of over 400 children that had been spared the violent death of abortion.
00:17:26.000 And this is really a turning point for our entire culture and our entire country.
00:17:32.000 And I think, you know, really, as you saw with President Biden's remarks the day of the decision, the start of the 2022 midterm election season.
00:17:41.000 So can you give us kind of a state-by-state update?
00:17:43.000 It's hard to track all of this.
00:17:44.000 There's legal briefs being filed.
00:17:46.000 Florida, there's injunctions. 0.99
00:17:48.000 Just kind of give us state by state to the best of your ability of what's happening.
00:17:52.000 Sure.
00:17:53.000 We published a map of Students' Life Action to kind of keep folks on board.
00:17:57.000 We've helped pass laws, life and conception acts, to make abortion illegal in states as soon as this decision came down.
00:18:06.000 So immediately we knew of about 13 states that had a pre-existing 1973 ban on abortions or had since passed a ban on all abortions in their state, where the attorney general then in that state would go and say, okay, these laws have now taken effect.
00:18:23.000 States like Texas, states like Louisiana, a heartbeat law in Ohio had just passed stopping abortions when children's heartbeat can be detected.
00:18:35.000 Immediately, Ohio said that law goes into effect.
00:18:39.000 And so we've seen this kind of swipe, you know, Arkansas, Alabama.
00:18:43.000 I mean, I can keep going on, Oklahoma as well.
00:18:46.000 Now, in the days since, you know, now it's Thursday, nearly a week from the decision, the abortion lobby is grasping at straws to issue injunctions and lawsuits against the states for enforcing these laws.
00:19:01.000 There's been a lawsuit filed in Texas.
00:19:03.000 There's been a suit filed in Louisiana.
00:19:07.000 These laws have no legal standing at all.
00:19:09.000 But what they're trying to do is buy themselves time so they can continue committing as many abortions as possible. 1.00
00:19:17.000 So basically, it's a state-by-state issue.
00:19:20.000 So there was a Florida judge, though, that blocked a 15 or 18-week ban.
00:19:25.000 And so under what justification is the judge now blocking that?
00:19:31.000 Yeah, they use different rules like the Louisiana case.
00:19:36.000 It is some very interesting legal maneuvering.
00:19:40.000 Like they're not, because before they always would say, oh, O said women have the rights. 1.00
00:19:45.000 So therefore the state can't impede upon women's rights. 1.00
00:19:48.000 Now they're basically saying, well, this person in the state doesn't have the right to pass this law or to enforce this law.
00:19:56.000 These are very nuanced.
00:19:57.000 And like I said, they're superbulist lawsuits.
00:20:00.000 Like they are, they're, I've already spoken with the Louisiana right to life folks that were like, look, they were the first state to have a lawsuit filed.
00:20:08.000 These suits are not going to hold weight.
00:20:11.000 What they're doing is what the abortion lobby has always done.
00:20:15.000 which is to get judicial activists to enforce their will and you basically usurp the will of the people.
00:20:22.000 This is what they have been doing for decades.
00:20:26.000 I was astounded Friday night after the decision came down to see MSNBC and CNN talk about the judges, Justice Thomas, of all people, being judicial activists, when really that is how the abortion lobby has gotten their entire entire agenda passed through states.
00:20:46.000 Because every single time a state legislature in the past 30 years has attempted to pass a law to protect women and children from these predatory abortionists, they always immediately go to one judge, one judge that they've identified who's either been a recipient of campaign funds or whose wife is on the board of a local Planned Parenthood.
00:21:09.000 And that's how all of these laws get stopped.
00:21:11.000 So I don't think any of these are going to hold up.
00:21:13.000 It's just going to be a long time coming and fighting in the courts.
00:21:17.000 And they're hoping that it gives them enough time to see a Democrat Attorney General elected to the state who will then say, I refuse to do my job and uphold the laws of the state.
00:21:29.000 Because I mean, that's in fact what we've seen happen with district attorneys.
00:21:33.000 This is why we have, for example, the Texas heartbeat law that went into effect this September.
00:21:38.000 It wasn't a criminal punishment.
00:21:40.000 It's a civil punishment.
00:21:41.000 It takes, you know, there's no, you know, authorities involved in this law.
00:21:46.000 It just says, if you know somebody who's committing abortions on children whose hearts are beating, you as an individual citizen can sue them.
00:21:55.000 And that was the reason for why the state of Texas authored the law that way, because district attorneys in Houston and Dallas and the biggest cities in Texas said, hey, if you pass an abortion law, we're going to refuse to do our job and not enforce it. 0.65
00:22:10.000 And so what's been really interesting to me is how corporate America has responded to this.
00:22:14.000 They're now basically going to try to create abortion tourism, which just shows that our work is still ahead of us.
00:22:20.000 Our work is not done, right?
00:22:22.000 So, I mean, talk about New Mexico, which is the late term abortion capital of America.
00:22:26.000 It was just in Albuquerque.
00:22:28.000 They brag about it.
00:22:29.000 And so can you talk a little bit about this new industry that it's always existed, but it's going to get worse of abortion tourism? 0.98
00:22:37.000 Yeah, the abortion trafficking.
00:22:39.000 I mean, this is what they're going to be doing.
00:22:41.000 They're going to say, oh, you live in the state of Texas.
00:22:43.000 Come over to New Mexico.
00:22:45.000 That's right. 1.00
00:22:45.000 And you can kill your child here. 1.00
00:22:47.000 This is trafficking. 1.00
00:22:48.000 This is wrong.
00:22:50.000 And this is why our fight in the pro-life movement doesn't stop here.
00:22:54.000 Reversing Row, sending the decision back to the states.
00:22:57.000 We believe there'll be about 26 states in the coming weeks and months that will move to mostly restrict all abortions.
00:23:06.000 But that leaves over half the country where their governors can be saying, come to our state and we'll pay for you to end the life of your child. 1.00
00:23:14.000 This is why we have to continue to make the case to the American people and to women in crisis that no woman stands alone.
00:23:22.000 The pro-life movement has always been standing beside her with more than 3,000 pregnancy centers, more than 400 maternity homes.
00:23:28.000 We vastly outnumber the number of abortion facilities.
00:23:31.000 You don't have to make this false choice between your life, your education, your career, and the life of your child.
00:23:39.000 Don't fall for the regressive views of the left.
00:23:43.000 You know, listen to what you've said your whole life and been taught your whole life that you are a woman who is capable of more and is able to choose both.
00:23:54.000 That is why we have to continue to make that case.
00:23:56.000 When you're talking about the abortion trafficking, Charlie, something that a lot of folks aren't kind of fully up to speed on yet is the proliferation of chemical abortion drugs.
00:24:06.000 The fact that the day our FDA stopped, they halted the distribution of Johnson Johnson vaccines because one person had tragically died from the Johnson-Johnson COVID vaccines.
00:24:16.000 The exact same day, RFDA came out and said that they were going to get rid of all of the REMs, the risk evaluation mitigation strategies on chemical abortion pills.
00:24:26.000 Even though we don't have a national abortion reporting law, because every time we try to pass one, Planned Parenthood abortion lobby sues, even though we don't have one, we know of over 24 women who've died from this drug.
00:24:37.000 We know that abortion-related ER visits have skyrocketed 500% in California.
00:24:42.000 You can go to any pregnancy chat room online, not a pro-life chat room, a pregnancy chat room, and hear the horror stories about chemical abortion.
00:24:51.000 You can go to Yelp and read the reviews of abortion clinics across the country, read these horror stories, and it's unbelievable.
00:24:58.000 And this is how they're trying to basically usurp the state.
00:25:02.000 The entire pharmaceutical industrial complex is involved in a lot of these socially liberal issues.
00:25:09.000 Let's kind of reinforce this point, right?
00:25:11.000 So, vaccine mandates, but also the transgender issue with chemical castration and puberty blockers. 0.81
00:25:17.000 And yes, the abortive patients and a lot of these interventions that can be used to stop pregnancy that could be used to prevent pregnancy or end pregnancy, I should say, not just prevent pregnancy.
00:25:29.000 So, there is a profit motive behind a lot of this.
00:25:32.000 I'd be really interested to see how much money Planned Parenthood receives from the pharmaceutical companies.
00:25:37.000 That'd be very interesting.
00:25:39.000 We know the pharmaceutical companies pump a lot of money into the human equality fight, which is the equal rights campaign, which is the alphabet mafia's nonprofit.
00:25:48.000 We know that because Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Johnson Johnson, I know Pfizer in particular, they have hundreds of millions, if not billions of dollars of profit to stand.
00:25:58.000 So, when you hear about socially liberal issues, remember there very well might be a profit motive behind that.
00:26:06.000 I mean, these are companies that stand to gain millions of dollars, and they've already indicated that they are increasing production of drugs because they're working with the Biden administration, hoping that President Biden makes these drugs over the counter.
00:26:19.000 That whole mantra of safe, legal, and rare, the abortion industry has been using for decades no longer applies.
00:26:25.000 It's certainly not safe.
00:26:27.000 They don't want it to be rare, and now it's not legal, and they're going to say they're doing it anyway.
00:26:32.000 It's great commentary, Kristen.
00:26:33.000 Thank you for coming on as always.
00:26:34.000 We didn't get that clip of you coming on campus.
00:26:36.000 We are going to put it on charliekirk.com.
00:26:38.000 It's brilliant.
00:26:39.000 Keep up the great work.
00:26:40.000 Thank you.
00:26:41.000 God bless you.
00:26:42.000 Thanks for all that you do.
00:26:43.000 Thank you.
00:26:43.000 Okay, we have not talked about the Ukraine conflict in quite some time.
00:26:48.000 And I'll be honest, one of the reasons is it's so murky.
00:26:51.000 Even when I have experts on this program, I'll call the experts an hour or two later and I say, You understand what you said on my show doesn't make a lot of sense, right?
00:27:00.000 Who's winning?
00:27:01.000 Where are they winning?
00:27:02.000 How many casualties?
00:27:03.000 They said, Well, we don't know.
00:27:04.000 I said, Well, then honestly, it's not worth the time.
00:27:06.000 So murky.
00:27:07.000 It's so cloudy.
00:27:08.000 So, before going any further, let's just be very clear: a strong country invading a weak country just for territorial gains is immoral, and we do not support that.
00:27:16.000 Putin is in the moral wrong for doing that.
00:27:20.000 However, a commander-in-chief of the United States very well could have prevented this invasion totally and categorically.
00:27:28.000 The solution is very simple.
00:27:30.000 We should have allowed for elections, fair and free elections, unlike some of the ones we have in our country, to be conducted primarily in the eastern part of Ukraine.
00:27:39.000 And if the eastern part of Ukraine wanted to break away from the Zelensky government, we should have given them the opportunity to do that.
00:27:47.000 I thought democracy dies in darkness.
00:27:49.000 You see, our own government that's always lecturing us about democracy, even though we're a constitutional republic, why didn't they allow democratic means for eastern Ukraine to go to Russia if they want to?
00:28:01.000 You see, this is a part that people don't really want to talk about, which is the eastern parts of Ukraine, a vast majority of them actually want to be part of Russia.
00:28:09.000 Many of them speak the Russian language.
00:28:11.000 Many of them don't like the Zelensky government.
00:28:13.000 They've been very upset about the exploitation by the Zelensky government.
00:28:17.000 Now, the reason this has not happened earlier is because of mass Western intervention, funding of NATO, and a total clouding of the conflict.
00:28:27.000 And no one wants to say the obvious thing out loud.
00:28:30.000 In fact, our leaders are too busy sending $56 billion to Ukraine, something they never should have done.
00:28:37.000 We should have always been trying to broker peace, end the war, and restore constitutional self-government representation.
00:28:44.000 Now, some of you say, well, if eastern Ukraine wants to be part of Putin, we shouldn't let them.
00:28:49.000 That's not for you to decide.
00:28:51.000 I'm no fan of Vladimir Putin.
00:28:55.000 If Eastern Ukraine wants to live under Putin's totalitarianism, why is that the concern of the United States while we're being invaded?
00:29:02.000 We have hyperinflation.
00:29:03.000 We can't pay for gas.
00:29:04.000 Stop playing war games in somebody else's backyard.
00:29:08.000 It does not end well.
00:29:11.000 Ukraine has collapsed, according to Colonel Douglas McGregor, and no one wants to admit it.
00:29:15.000 Our Western leaders have spent $56 billion.
00:29:21.000 They go and visit with Zelensky in Ukraine.
00:29:24.000 And what do they have to show for it?
00:29:25.000 Play Cut 132.
00:29:27.000 Support for the non-existent Ukrainian state, because let's face it, Ukraine is now a failed state.
00:29:34.000 It's collapsed.
00:29:35.000 People are being pushed at gunpoint into Russian fire.
00:29:40.000 This whole thing is a disaster.
00:29:42.000 But no one wants to admit failure because they know once they admit failure, they lose all credibility.
00:29:47.000 Well, of course, obviously, we could have paid attention to what Mr. Putin was saying and had been saying for literally a decade.
00:29:56.000 I mean, this goes back to 2008 in Budapest and the Munich Security Conference, where he effectively said, we cannot accept what you're doing.
00:30:04.000 We will not tolerate the presence of NATO forces, particularly U.S. forces, on our I hate to say it, but our early commentary that received a lot of backlash from a lot of people, unfortunately, is being proven right.
00:30:17.000 I wish we would have been wrong.
00:30:18.000 I wish Ukraine could have won this war easily. 0.98
00:30:20.000 Now people say, well, Ukraine can still win.
00:30:23.000 Six years ago, John Mershmeyer, a Wendell Harrison distinguished service professor at political science at University of Chicago, said the West is leading Ukraine down the primrose path, and the end result is Ukraine is going to get wrecked.
00:30:39.000 We subsidized them for years, and we led them to a place where they're going to get destroyed.
00:30:45.000 Play Cut 133.
00:30:47.000 But I actually think that what's going on here is that the West is leading Ukraine down the primrose path. 0.57
00:30:54.000 And the end result is that Ukraine is going to get wrecked. 0.91
00:30:59.000 And I believe that the policy that I'm advocating, which is neutralizing Ukraine and then building it up economically and getting it out of the competition between Russia on one side and NATO on the other side, is the best thing that could happen to the Ukrainians. 0.95
00:31:12.000 What we're doing is encouraging the Ukrainians to play tough with the Russians. 1.00
00:31:18.000 We're encouraging the Ukrainians to think that they will ultimately become part of the West because we will ultimately defeat Putin and we will ultimately get our way.
00:31:27.000 Time is on our side.
00:31:29.000 I stand with the Ukrainian people.
00:31:31.000 I think every decent person does.
00:31:33.000 But the thing that would have been in the best interest of the Ukrainian people is preventing war by allowing democratic elections in the eastern part of the country, working with Zelensky, which is nothing more than a client state of the Central Intelligence Agency, and preventing this mass refugee crisis and the suffering that's happened. 0.70
00:31:48.000 Instead, we send more arms, which means more people die.
00:31:54.000 Thank you so much for listening, everybody.
00:31:55.000 Email me your thoughts as always: freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:31:58.000 Thanks so much for listening.
00:31:59.000 God bless.
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