00:00:00.000Hey everybody, today in the Charlie Kirk Show, we have Kristen Hawkins to help talk about the latest with Roe versus Wade and John Gibbs, a great candidate in Western Michigan, who is running to unseat Peter Meyer.
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00:02:03.000So I remember I was in Chicago and I drove to Grand Rapids, Michigan.
00:02:07.000That's not an easy drive for those of you that have done it throughout the night because the next morning we were starting our door knocking for a certain candidate in Western Michigan.
00:02:17.000I got up very early and rallied the troops and told everybody that in Western Michigan, we need to put our forces together to go get a certain person elected by the name of Peter Meyer.
00:02:29.000Now, mind you, I don't know why we endorsed Peter Meyer, largely because I thought it was a flip district or something like that, a way to kind of gain ground.
00:02:36.000But what an incredible disappointment and letdown Peter Meyer in Western Michigan has become.
00:02:42.000He has become a camera-seeking, attention-grabbing, self-righteous congressman who voted for the impeachment of Donald Trump as like one of the first things he did right out of the gate.
00:02:53.000He sprints to try to go on cable television at every single corner imaginable.
00:02:58.000And he's someone I have very little respect for.
00:03:01.000And he's got to go and he's got to go right now.
00:03:04.000And there is a great candidate running against Peter Meyer, who, by the way, some of you might not live in Michigan.
00:03:08.000Some of you might not have even been to Michigan.
00:03:10.000Some of you say, I don't really care that much about Michigan.
00:04:08.000After serving our time in the Trump administration, I was maybe going to work for a think tank and be out of the spotlight for a while.
00:04:14.000But some of our friends from our former White House said, dude, Peter Meyer voted to impeach Trump.
00:04:19.000You should go back home and run against him.
00:04:21.000So I decided to pray about it, think about it, get my ducks in a row.
00:04:25.000I jumped in head first, got President Trump's endorsement, got Dr. Ben Carson's endorsement, who I worked under in the Trump administration, and said, yeah, we really need to do this.
00:04:33.000We really need to provide leadership for the good people here in West Michigan, which is not getting it right now under Peter Meyer.
00:04:55.000You're loyal to the country and loyal to President Trump's agenda.
00:04:59.000Can you explain to me, though, what is it about Peter Meyer?
00:05:03.000Because it's so frustrating because I feel as if we're fighting the left.
00:05:07.000But if our own side doesn't even want to fight the left and instead wants to go be pals with them at Cocktail Parties, then what are we doing here?
00:05:30.000And that speaks to your point, though, about these rhinos out there.
00:05:34.000They have this sense of elitism, a huge sense of elitism, pride, arrogance.
00:05:38.000They don't need to listen to the people that elected them.
00:05:40.000They don't need to listen to the posts of where our great patriots are around the country.
00:05:44.000No, they instead are serving a globalist agenda, a very arrogant agenda where they believe that they are a step above everyone else and they have all the right answers, regardless of what anyone else says or what anyone else wants.
00:05:56.000During my time in the administration, I went toe-to-toe against them.
00:05:59.000I always told people that before I served in the Trump administration, I never swore.
00:06:03.000But once I started working in our administration, going up against these rhinos, they will just trigger you and pull out this anger in you because of how they're trying to block the Trump agenda.
00:06:12.000They're trying to block what regular people around America want and voted for.
00:06:15.000And they would just sit there and try to block everything as though they're some kind of Democrat.
00:08:21.000There's a poll out there done by those favorable to Meyer that I hear at least shows that it's apparently tied, but we know that that's probably juiced up a bit.
00:08:29.000So the results are much better for us.
00:09:03.000Whenever we talk to people, they say, I see your signs everywhere.
00:09:06.000And so we're continuing to aggressively get those out and get our name ID up.
00:09:10.000Meyer just started putting us out a very short while ago, and he doesn't have that many out there.
00:09:15.000He's going to try to buy up all the ads and send out all the mailers, but it's not working.
00:09:19.000Instead of getting his name out there more, because he's already got name ID, it's only reminding people how much they don't like him when they get his stuff.
00:10:35.000You rarely see this kind of focus and commitment.
00:10:37.000They recently shared with me that they are doubling down and want to literally double their total number of happy customers in the next year.
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00:11:29.000It looks like Russia, there's no way to defeat Russia.
00:11:33.000We don't know where the $56 billion went.
00:11:35.000Joe Biden is sending another $800 million.
00:11:38.000We were against aid from the beginning.
00:11:40.000They should have held transparent elections in the eastern part of Ukraine before any invasion happened and asked the people of eastern Ukraine, do you want to be part of Ukraine or part of Russia and allow self-determination and sovereignty to happen?
00:11:52.000That would have been the peaceful thing to do.
00:11:54.000Instead, tens of thousands of people are being killed.
00:11:57.000Millions of people are being displaced for war games by a neoconservative war industrial complex that is getting fabulously wealth and rich while we can't even secure our own borders.
00:12:09.000The whole thing in Ukraine is a catastrophe.
00:12:11.000The true victims are the people of Ukraine that have to now live in an act of war zone because of the pride and the arrogance of Western forces.
00:12:19.000However, so kind of around this issue of Putin, Boris Johnson, and can I just say Boris Johnson, I think, has been probably one of the great disappointments of the last couple of years.
00:12:31.000And that's quite a statement because there's been some winners.
00:12:34.000I mean, there's been some real beauties of people that have really let us down.
00:12:38.000Boris Johnson, who came in with the nationalist energy that Nigel Farage started, Nigel Farage, great man, coming into power and has been anything but the bold and courageous leader.
00:12:54.000It's just hard to find a Churchill, isn't it?
00:12:57.000Boris Johnson, I think, always saw himself as becoming a Churchill.
00:13:12.000You need more women in positions of power.
00:13:15.000If Putin was a woman, which he obviously isn't, but if he were, I really don't think he would have embarked on a crazy macho war of invasion and violence in the way that he has.
00:13:29.000You're a perfect example of toxic masculinity.
00:13:53.000She gouged out her son's eyes just to retain power.
00:13:57.000How about Mary I, who viciously persecuted Protestants, burning some 300 at the stake?
00:14:02.000Was that toxic masculinity when she did it?
00:14:04.000How about Ava Perrone or Elizabeth I of England?
00:14:08.000How about Cleopatra, who served her enemies' heads on a platter to her visitors as they came in to the mouth of the Nile?
00:14:20.000How about Empress Wu Zaitan of China, who is willing to eliminate anyone to stay in power, even her own family?
00:14:28.000Or how about Mary Queen of the Scots, where we get that drink, that name of the drink that many of you enjoy this summer, literally called her Bloody Mary?
00:14:36.000Toxic masculinity is what Boris Johnson says.
00:14:41.000Look, as Candace Owens said at our Young Women's Leadership Summit, men largely built the Western world, but women raised it.
00:16:14.000So with us right now is a pro-life warrior who she actually has one of the best campus videos on the life issue I've seen in quite some time.
00:16:24.000So much so I reposted on my Instagram of this young lady that can we get that clip actually to play it some let's get that up while we have Kristen here.
00:16:45.000It's been many years of work for you and so many others.
00:16:48.000Just first, your initial reaction, Roe versus Wade being overturned.
00:16:53.000Yeah, I mean, it's almost indescribable to talk about this moment that we've been working for for 50 years to see the court admit that it was wrong, egregiously wrong in 1973 and disregarding the science of human life and when it begins.
00:17:08.000But to know that this decision, immediately after this decision came down, states started to act to ban abortions, shutting down abortion facilities.
00:17:18.000Within one day, we knew of over 400 children that had been spared the violent death of abortion.
00:17:26.000And this is really a turning point for our entire culture and our entire country.
00:17:32.000And I think, you know, really, as you saw with President Biden's remarks the day of the decision, the start of the 2022 midterm election season.
00:17:41.000So can you give us kind of a state-by-state update?
00:17:53.000We published a map of Students' Life Action to kind of keep folks on board.
00:17:57.000We've helped pass laws, life and conception acts, to make abortion illegal in states as soon as this decision came down.
00:18:06.000So immediately we knew of about 13 states that had a pre-existing 1973 ban on abortions or had since passed a ban on all abortions in their state, where the attorney general then in that state would go and say, okay, these laws have now taken effect.
00:18:23.000States like Texas, states like Louisiana, a heartbeat law in Ohio had just passed stopping abortions when children's heartbeat can be detected.
00:18:35.000Immediately, Ohio said that law goes into effect.
00:18:39.000And so we've seen this kind of swipe, you know, Arkansas, Alabama.
00:18:43.000I mean, I can keep going on, Oklahoma as well.
00:18:46.000Now, in the days since, you know, now it's Thursday, nearly a week from the decision, the abortion lobby is grasping at straws to issue injunctions and lawsuits against the states for enforcing these laws.
00:19:01.000There's been a lawsuit filed in Texas.
00:19:03.000There's been a suit filed in Louisiana.
00:19:07.000These laws have no legal standing at all.
00:19:09.000But what they're trying to do is buy themselves time so they can continue committing as many abortions as possible.
00:19:17.000So basically, it's a state-by-state issue.
00:19:20.000So there was a Florida judge, though, that blocked a 15 or 18-week ban.
00:19:25.000And so under what justification is the judge now blocking that?
00:19:31.000Yeah, they use different rules like the Louisiana case.
00:19:36.000It is some very interesting legal maneuvering.
00:19:40.000Like they're not, because before they always would say, oh, O said women have the rights.
00:19:45.000So therefore the state can't impede upon women's rights.
00:19:48.000Now they're basically saying, well, this person in the state doesn't have the right to pass this law or to enforce this law.
00:19:57.000And like I said, they're superbulist lawsuits.
00:20:00.000Like they are, they're, I've already spoken with the Louisiana right to life folks that were like, look, they were the first state to have a lawsuit filed.
00:20:08.000These suits are not going to hold weight.
00:20:11.000What they're doing is what the abortion lobby has always done.
00:20:15.000which is to get judicial activists to enforce their will and you basically usurp the will of the people.
00:20:22.000This is what they have been doing for decades.
00:20:26.000I was astounded Friday night after the decision came down to see MSNBC and CNN talk about the judges, Justice Thomas, of all people, being judicial activists, when really that is how the abortion lobby has gotten their entire entire agenda passed through states.
00:20:46.000Because every single time a state legislature in the past 30 years has attempted to pass a law to protect women and children from these predatory abortionists, they always immediately go to one judge, one judge that they've identified who's either been a recipient of campaign funds or whose wife is on the board of a local Planned Parenthood.
00:21:09.000And that's how all of these laws get stopped.
00:21:11.000So I don't think any of these are going to hold up.
00:21:13.000It's just going to be a long time coming and fighting in the courts.
00:21:17.000And they're hoping that it gives them enough time to see a Democrat Attorney General elected to the state who will then say, I refuse to do my job and uphold the laws of the state.
00:21:29.000Because I mean, that's in fact what we've seen happen with district attorneys.
00:21:33.000This is why we have, for example, the Texas heartbeat law that went into effect this September.
00:21:41.000It takes, you know, there's no, you know, authorities involved in this law.
00:21:46.000It just says, if you know somebody who's committing abortions on children whose hearts are beating, you as an individual citizen can sue them.
00:21:55.000And that was the reason for why the state of Texas authored the law that way, because district attorneys in Houston and Dallas and the biggest cities in Texas said, hey, if you pass an abortion law, we're going to refuse to do our job and not enforce it.
00:22:10.000And so what's been really interesting to me is how corporate America has responded to this.
00:22:14.000They're now basically going to try to create abortion tourism, which just shows that our work is still ahead of us.
00:22:50.000And this is why our fight in the pro-life movement doesn't stop here.
00:22:54.000Reversing Row, sending the decision back to the states.
00:22:57.000We believe there'll be about 26 states in the coming weeks and months that will move to mostly restrict all abortions.
00:23:06.000But that leaves over half the country where their governors can be saying, come to our state and we'll pay for you to end the life of your child.
00:23:14.000This is why we have to continue to make the case to the American people and to women in crisis that no woman stands alone.
00:23:22.000The pro-life movement has always been standing beside her with more than 3,000 pregnancy centers, more than 400 maternity homes.
00:23:28.000We vastly outnumber the number of abortion facilities.
00:23:31.000You don't have to make this false choice between your life, your education, your career, and the life of your child.
00:23:39.000Don't fall for the regressive views of the left.
00:23:43.000You know, listen to what you've said your whole life and been taught your whole life that you are a woman who is capable of more and is able to choose both.
00:23:54.000That is why we have to continue to make that case.
00:23:56.000When you're talking about the abortion trafficking, Charlie, something that a lot of folks aren't kind of fully up to speed on yet is the proliferation of chemical abortion drugs.
00:24:06.000The fact that the day our FDA stopped, they halted the distribution of Johnson Johnson vaccines because one person had tragically died from the Johnson-Johnson COVID vaccines.
00:24:16.000The exact same day, RFDA came out and said that they were going to get rid of all of the REMs, the risk evaluation mitigation strategies on chemical abortion pills.
00:24:26.000Even though we don't have a national abortion reporting law, because every time we try to pass one, Planned Parenthood abortion lobby sues, even though we don't have one, we know of over 24 women who've died from this drug.
00:24:37.000We know that abortion-related ER visits have skyrocketed 500% in California.
00:24:42.000You can go to any pregnancy chat room online, not a pro-life chat room, a pregnancy chat room, and hear the horror stories about chemical abortion.
00:24:51.000You can go to Yelp and read the reviews of abortion clinics across the country, read these horror stories, and it's unbelievable.
00:24:58.000And this is how they're trying to basically usurp the state.
00:25:02.000The entire pharmaceutical industrial complex is involved in a lot of these socially liberal issues.
00:25:09.000Let's kind of reinforce this point, right?
00:25:11.000So, vaccine mandates, but also the transgender issue with chemical castration and puberty blockers.
00:25:17.000And yes, the abortive patients and a lot of these interventions that can be used to stop pregnancy that could be used to prevent pregnancy or end pregnancy, I should say, not just prevent pregnancy.
00:25:29.000So, there is a profit motive behind a lot of this.
00:25:32.000I'd be really interested to see how much money Planned Parenthood receives from the pharmaceutical companies.
00:25:39.000We know the pharmaceutical companies pump a lot of money into the human equality fight, which is the equal rights campaign, which is the alphabet mafia's nonprofit.
00:25:48.000We know that because Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Johnson Johnson, I know Pfizer in particular, they have hundreds of millions, if not billions of dollars of profit to stand.
00:25:58.000So, when you hear about socially liberal issues, remember there very well might be a profit motive behind that.
00:26:06.000I mean, these are companies that stand to gain millions of dollars, and they've already indicated that they are increasing production of drugs because they're working with the Biden administration, hoping that President Biden makes these drugs over the counter.
00:26:19.000That whole mantra of safe, legal, and rare, the abortion industry has been using for decades no longer applies.
00:26:43.000Okay, we have not talked about the Ukraine conflict in quite some time.
00:26:48.000And I'll be honest, one of the reasons is it's so murky.
00:26:51.000Even when I have experts on this program, I'll call the experts an hour or two later and I say, You understand what you said on my show doesn't make a lot of sense, right?
00:27:08.000So, before going any further, let's just be very clear: a strong country invading a weak country just for territorial gains is immoral, and we do not support that.
00:27:16.000Putin is in the moral wrong for doing that.
00:27:20.000However, a commander-in-chief of the United States very well could have prevented this invasion totally and categorically.
00:27:30.000We should have allowed for elections, fair and free elections, unlike some of the ones we have in our country, to be conducted primarily in the eastern part of Ukraine.
00:27:39.000And if the eastern part of Ukraine wanted to break away from the Zelensky government, we should have given them the opportunity to do that.
00:27:49.000You see, our own government that's always lecturing us about democracy, even though we're a constitutional republic, why didn't they allow democratic means for eastern Ukraine to go to Russia if they want to?
00:28:01.000You see, this is a part that people don't really want to talk about, which is the eastern parts of Ukraine, a vast majority of them actually want to be part of Russia.
00:28:09.000Many of them speak the Russian language.
00:28:11.000Many of them don't like the Zelensky government.
00:28:13.000They've been very upset about the exploitation by the Zelensky government.
00:28:17.000Now, the reason this has not happened earlier is because of mass Western intervention, funding of NATO, and a total clouding of the conflict.
00:28:27.000And no one wants to say the obvious thing out loud.
00:28:30.000In fact, our leaders are too busy sending $56 billion to Ukraine, something they never should have done.
00:28:37.000We should have always been trying to broker peace, end the war, and restore constitutional self-government representation.
00:28:44.000Now, some of you say, well, if eastern Ukraine wants to be part of Putin, we shouldn't let them.
00:29:42.000But no one wants to admit failure because they know once they admit failure, they lose all credibility.
00:29:47.000Well, of course, obviously, we could have paid attention to what Mr. Putin was saying and had been saying for literally a decade.
00:29:56.000I mean, this goes back to 2008 in Budapest and the Munich Security Conference, where he effectively said, we cannot accept what you're doing.
00:30:04.000We will not tolerate the presence of NATO forces, particularly U.S. forces, on our I hate to say it, but our early commentary that received a lot of backlash from a lot of people, unfortunately, is being proven right.
00:30:18.000I wish Ukraine could have won this war easily.
00:30:20.000Now people say, well, Ukraine can still win.
00:30:23.000Six years ago, John Mershmeyer, a Wendell Harrison distinguished service professor at political science at University of Chicago, said the West is leading Ukraine down the primrose path, and the end result is Ukraine is going to get wrecked.
00:30:39.000We subsidized them for years, and we led them to a place where they're going to get destroyed.
00:30:47.000But I actually think that what's going on here is that the West is leading Ukraine down the primrose path.
00:30:54.000And the end result is that Ukraine is going to get wrecked.
00:30:59.000And I believe that the policy that I'm advocating, which is neutralizing Ukraine and then building it up economically and getting it out of the competition between Russia on one side and NATO on the other side, is the best thing that could happen to the Ukrainians.
00:31:12.000What we're doing is encouraging the Ukrainians to play tough with the Russians.
00:31:18.000We're encouraging the Ukrainians to think that they will ultimately become part of the West because we will ultimately defeat Putin and we will ultimately get our way.
00:31:33.000But the thing that would have been in the best interest of the Ukrainian people is preventing war by allowing democratic elections in the eastern part of the country, working with Zelensky, which is nothing more than a client state of the Central Intelligence Agency, and preventing this mass refugee crisis and the suffering that's happened.
00:31:48.000Instead, we send more arms, which means more people die.
00:31:54.000Thank you so much for listening, everybody.
00:31:55.000Email me your thoughts as always: freedom at charliekirk.com.