The Charlie Kirk Show - Democrats are Weird. With Newt Gingrich and Pedro Gonzales

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00:00:00.000 Today in the Charlie Kirk show, the great Newt Gingrich joins us to talk about the upcoming midterms and our chances and why he thinks we need to brand the Democrats as weird.

00:00:10.000 Kind of like that.

00:00:11.000 Also, Pedro Gonzalez joins us to talk about why is it that our leaders are infatuated with foreigners, but really are annoyed by our own citizens.

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00:01:26.000 Mr. Speaker, Newt Gingrich is with us.

00:01:28.000 Mr. Speaker, welcome back to the program.

00:01:31.000 It's great to be with you.

00:01:32.000 It's always fun because you do such a great show.

00:01:35.000 Well, thank you.

00:01:35.000 I appreciate that and love your commentary, especially recently.

00:01:39.000 So, Mr. Speaker, it seems as if in the last couple of weeks, things have really turned positive for Republicans going into the midterms.

00:01:46.000 We're 34 days out.

00:01:48.000 It seemed like the Democrats' spending spree over the summer and their kind of synthetic raising of their candidates, it's collapsing all around them.

00:01:57.000 What's your diagnosis heading in November where we stand right now?

00:02:00.000 Well, we're about where I thought we would be back in the spring when you have this level of a cost of living crisis.

00:02:09.000 You have the price of food going up 13.5% in one year.

00:02:13.000 You have the gasoline prices going back up.

00:02:16.000 I paid $5.05 a gallon last Saturday.

00:02:20.000 You have crime in all the big cities.

00:02:23.000 You go to, for example, the race in Pennsylvania.

00:02:27.000 Philadelphia just had its 1,000th carjacking of the year or record, and they still have three more months.

00:02:35.000 70% of the people in Philadelphia say crime is the biggest problem they've got.

00:02:40.000 Well, that really undermines the Democrats.

00:02:43.000 So you look at those, then you look at immigration, the amount of fentanyl.

00:02:47.000 You realize that 100,000 Americans a year are dying of drug overdose.

00:02:52.000 That's twice the deaths of the entire Vietnam War.

00:02:57.000 And all these things are coming together in a really simple way.

00:03:00.000 It ain't working.

00:03:02.000 Big government socialism isn't working.

00:03:04.000 Joe Biden isn't working.

00:03:06.000 Chuck Schumer isn't working.

00:03:07.000 Nancy Pelosi isn't working.

00:03:09.000 And I discovered yesterday, I was in Des Moines, Cindy Axney, who is the Democratic congresswoman from Des Moines, was supposed to be voting in August.

00:03:20.000 She signed a note saying that because of COVID, she couldn't come.

00:03:23.000 She was actually vacationing in Paris when she was supposed to be voting.

00:03:28.000 So you have all these different swirling things.

00:03:32.000 And that leads me to believe we'll probably be plus 20 to plus 50 in the House and plus three to plus seven in the Senate.

00:03:40.000 So one of the, let's say, concerns our audience has that maybe you can help clarify is why is it then with all of the momentum, Democrats are outspending us so significantly?

00:03:51.000 Is it because they've really become the party of the oligarchs?

00:03:53.000 What's your take on that, Mr. Speaker?

00:03:55.000 Well, I think there are three big things underway.

00:03:59.000 One, Act Blue was founded years before Wynn Red.

00:04:03.000 So they've had time to build a really large online donor base that's more than twice the size of the Republican donor base.

00:04:11.000 That's right.

00:04:12.000 Two, the Republicans, this has been one of the great revolutions of my lifetime.

00:04:16.000 Republicans today overwhelmingly represent people who did not go to four-year colleges.

00:04:23.000 Two-thirds of all Americans went to a Votech school or a junior college or just went straight to work. 0.72

00:04:30.000 They used to be FDR Democrats.

00:04:32.000 They have now become Trump Republicans.

00:04:35.000 They're also people who have been hit the hardest by inflation.

00:04:39.000 So just the available cash.

00:04:42.000 On the other hand, the Democrats represent the college professors, the trial lawyers, the Hollywood elites, the New York billionaires who sold out to China.

00:04:51.000 And that collective group has tons of money and they're not affected.

00:04:55.000 And then, third, the immediate reaction to the Supreme Court decision on Roe versus Wade triggered on the left a huge surge of donations.

00:05:08.000 And I think that it's finally, I should say, I think they understand that their entire effort to turn America into a weird country is going to go crashing and burning if they lose this fall.

00:05:21.000 And so they see much greater threat than we do.

00:05:25.000 I mean, they understand that, you know, Kevin McCarthy as Speaker, Mitch McConnell as majority leader, setting the stage for a 2024 where we take back the White House.

00:05:37.000 That's the end of their world.

00:05:39.000 And I think you're seeing a desperation.

00:05:41.000 You just, you know, Senator Lee, for example, is facing this in Utah, where they will lie, they will pretend to be things they're not.

00:05:51.000 We just saw this in Georgia, where Senator Warnock may be running the most vicious personal campaign in the country.

00:05:58.000 I mean, they are genuinely desperate.

00:06:00.000 I think that's a very clear analysis.

00:06:02.000 And I love when you say that they want to make America weird.

00:06:05.000 That's right.

00:06:06.000 I think normal people can relate to that, especially when you hear about black-only dormitories on campuses and affirmative action, racial hiring quotas, and men can become pregnant, and Katangi Brown Jackson's inability to tell you what a woman is. 0.74

00:06:21.000 I just don't think that the average plumber electrician looks at that and says, you know, that's the political party I want to be part of.

00:06:28.000 It's a very, you know, very powerful, but, you know, small group of people that have high earning potential.

00:06:36.000 I suppose that's why they're able to finance these campaigns so generously.

00:06:39.000 Well, and for them, it's an alternative religion.

00:06:43.000 You know, I think it's important to understand that literally this is a secular religion, and they have the fervor of a brand new religion, the passion of missionaries, the intensity of going after the people like us who are heretics.

00:07:00.000 And I decided a couple of weeks ago, when I was reading about an effort to get kindergartners to talk about their gender, it hit me that the word weird is better and more accurate than the word woke. 0.54

00:07:14.000 People don't have any idea what woke means, but they understand what weird is.

00:07:18.000 And your point's a good example.

00:07:19.000 We fought for years to end segregation.

00:07:22.000 We fought for years to get to a colorblind society.

00:07:25.000 And now these people in a weird way want to reestablish racism as the national model.

00:07:32.000 You know, you can't have the Bible in a school, but you can have pornography because after all, children should be exposed to the many options they have sexually.

00:07:42.000 And it's, again, it's just strange.

00:07:46.000 The weird religion of the left has glorified strange behaviors at the same time that they have deeply opposed every traditional American value, starting with saluting the flag and saying the Pledge of Allegiance.

00:08:00.000 That is one of the most concise summaries I've heard of what we're living through right now.

00:08:04.000 Do you have confidence that this Republican leadership group, and I know you've spent a lot of time workshopping with them, are ready to govern and also hold this administration accountable if we take back the House?

00:08:17.000 Because just to be very honest, our audience is very skeptical of Republican leadership because it just seems as if they've been let down by Republican leadership kind of post-you being speaker in the 90s.

00:08:30.000 No, no, I'm, I think skepticism is legitimate as long as you remember that if you don't elect them, what you get is infinitely worse.

00:08:39.000 That's right.

00:08:39.000 Yes.

00:08:40.000 But my answer, Reagan used to say, trust, but verify.

00:08:44.000 I think that's a good rule.

00:08:45.000 I don't trust people with power.

00:08:47.000 I expect that the morning after the Republicans win the House and the Senate, everybody who voted for them ought to say, now deliver.

00:08:55.000 And I like what Kevin McCarthy's done with a commitment to America, which was modeled on our contract, because they put it there in writing.

00:09:03.000 And I think we can hold them to account for that.

00:09:05.000 And I was very delighted when Senator McConnell and Senator Rick Scott both came out and endorsed the concept.

00:09:11.000 And I think it gives us the beginning.

00:09:14.000 But I can tell you, I'm not going to talk with them about how to govern as a congressional majority until they win.

00:09:23.000 I don't want them worrying about next year until we get through this year.

00:09:26.000 And we still have about 35 days of tough campaigning ahead of us.

00:09:30.000 Yeah, I want to talk about that.

00:09:32.000 And again, I think that finally Republicans are getting on message.

00:09:35.000 I think they're finally understanding what their voters are demanding.

00:09:39.000 And if you just look at it, if you look at it from a fair analysis, what new voter is going to be, you know what?

00:09:47.000 You know what?

00:09:47.000 I'm going to vote for a Democrat in the next 30 days.

00:09:50.000 I think they've hit their peak and it is a diminishing return.

00:09:53.000 They know that, where Republicans have a massive ceiling of new voters that they can win over in the next 30 days, people they could persuade independents.

00:10:03.000 And there was a CNN article yesterday that's a fire alarm for Democrats, which is not the number one, I think you probably saw this article, the number one issue for voters Republicans lead historically on, which is jobs inflation.

00:10:16.000 Because if you talk to a random independent voter, they might think Republicans are, you know, I don't like their tone and all this, but they know deep down the economy runs better when Republicans are in charge.

00:10:26.000 That by almost a three to one margin, independents believe that.

00:10:30.000 And so if this economic carnage continues, I think that's going to really benefit Republicans.

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00:11:58.000 Mr. Speaker, I'm going to ask you about something you mentioned in a state you know rather well, the state of Georgia, with one of the most expensive Senate races in history, Raphael Warnock against Herschel Walker.

00:12:08.000 An article came out alleging that Herschel Walker paid for an abortion.

00:12:12.000 He denies those claims, emphatically denies them.

00:12:15.000 And it has kind of turned into this entire media circus as Herschel is surging in the polls, raising a lot of money, and Warnock is becoming increasingly desperate.

00:12:24.000 How should we, as conservatives, view this race?

00:12:27.000 And some conservatives are saying, I can no longer vote for Herschel Walker based on these accusations of which he denies.

00:12:32.000 How should we look at this?

00:12:35.000 Well, this is classic.

00:12:36.000 This is exactly what happened to Justice Kavanaugh.

00:12:40.000 It's exactly what happened with Donald Trump and what we now know was a totally dishonest Russian hoax that never existed, was never true.

00:12:49.000 The FBI lied about it.

00:12:50.000 The New York Times lied about it.

00:12:52.000 The Washington Post lied about it.

00:12:54.000 This is a pattern that goes all the way back to Judge Bork when he was nominated for the Supreme Court.

00:13:00.000 So let's be clear.

00:13:01.000 You had an anonymous story in a publication, which then becomes an excuse for other publications, which would never deal with an anonymous source, to quote the story, because the story is not anonymous.

00:13:15.000 It was published.

00:13:16.000 But the source of the story is anonymous.

00:13:19.000 Herschel's been very clear.

00:13:21.000 One, that he did have problems at points in his life.

00:13:24.000 He'd had a number of concussions as a football player.

00:13:27.000 He went through the equivalent of PTSD.

00:13:29.000 When he recovered, he, in fact, went around and gave over 400 speeches on military bases, helping people, helping young people deal with their own challenges.

00:13:41.000 He's been a very big mental health advocate. 0.99

00:13:44.000 And Warnock is such a despicable, dishonest, slimy person. 0.99

00:13:48.000 That's exactly. 1.00

00:13:49.000 He is a despicable person. 0.98

00:13:50.000 You're exactly right. 0.96

00:13:51.000 Here's a guy, supposedly, a pastor who runs a commercial, which has Herschel Walker's former wife saying he pulled a gun on me.

00:14:02.000 They then stop the video.

00:14:04.000 Well, the next part of the video, Herschel's sitting next to her, and they're talking about how, at the darkest point in their lives, they found Christ.

00:14:13.000 They found a better future.

00:14:15.000 Life worked better.

00:14:18.000 Now, how can you call yourself a pastor and cut a commitment to Christ in such a way that you only take the negative piece, totally distort what it meant?

00:14:29.000 And that's just typical of Warnock.

00:14:31.000 And I thought, I'll tell you what it tells me as a historian.

00:14:34.000 The Democrats know that if this election is decided on the issues, Warnock is gone.

00:14:40.000 He will be wiped out.

00:14:42.000 Just as, by the way, you'll notice that Stacey Abrams is now in total collapse and free fall.

00:14:46.000 That's right.

00:14:47.000 Therefore, if they don't destroy Herschel personally, they can't beat him on the issues.

00:14:53.000 And Herschel, who I happened to talk to the other day, he gets it like, I mean, this is a guy who got hit his whole career.

00:15:00.000 He understands.

00:15:01.000 You put on the pads, you get on the field, people hit you.

00:15:04.000 And he is determined.

00:15:06.000 He thinks Georgia needs a senator who genuinely is religious, who genuinely is conservative, and who genuinely cares about the issues.

00:15:15.000 And he's willing to take the beating in order to offer himself as that senator.

00:15:20.000 And I think Georgians are going to look at that and they're going to say, okay, over here, I've got this left-wing cuckoo pretending to be a preacher who clearly doesn't behave like a preacher.

00:15:29.000 And over here, I've got a guy who is solid, who is a state hero, the greatest athlete ever to play at the University of Georgia.

00:15:37.000 And he is sincere and he's happy and positive.

00:15:40.000 Yes, that's right.

00:15:41.000 And I think that's a key part.

00:15:43.000 I totally agree.

00:15:44.000 And, you know, some people I think are so rushing to judgment.

00:15:47.000 I say, guys, have we learned nothing over the last couple of years?

00:15:50.000 Nothing of the smear tactics of the character assassination.

00:15:54.000 And also, not even an inch for redemption or forgiveness or for improvement of the individual.

00:16:00.000 And who is he running up against?

00:16:02.000 I agree. 0.94

00:16:03.000 Warnock is despicable. 0.86

00:16:04.000 By the way, you ought to think of it as Charlie Brown in the football. 0.97

00:16:07.000 That's right. 0.96

00:16:08.000 No matter how often she pulled the football out away from him, he's still sucking for it every time. 0.92

00:16:13.000 And that is honestly some of the chattering class on the right, Mr. Speaker, drives me nuts when they fall for this stuff. 0.83

00:16:19.000 They learn nothing throughout all this.

00:16:20.000 You wrote a piece saying that you think Blake Masters is going to win in Arizona because of the ceiling that Mark Kelly hit.

00:16:26.000 Tell us about that.

00:16:27.000 Look, it's very simple.

00:16:28.000 Kelly goes in and votes no on 13,000 additional border patrol and 12 hours later votes yes on 87,000 IRS agents.

00:16:40.000 Now you go to the average Arizona and say, given all they've suffered from illegal immigration, do you think we need people to protect us or people to investigate us?

00:16:50.000 Mark Kelly's against protecting us.

00:16:52.000 He's for investigating us.

00:16:54.000 Blake Masters wants to protect us.

00:16:56.000 I think that choice is going to become very clear.

00:16:59.000 And I think Kelly's gone.

00:17:00.000 Very clear.

00:17:01.000 You know, Mr. Speaker, you should give more advice to these candidates because they meander.

00:17:05.000 They're not as clear as you.

00:17:06.000 They got to stay disciplined.

00:17:07.000 I'll tell you what, Mr. Speaker, thank you so much.

00:17:09.000 Thank you.

00:17:10.000 Thanks, Charlie.

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00:18:06.000 With us right now is Pedro Gonzalez from Chronicles Magazine.

00:18:09.000 Pedro, welcome back to the program.

00:18:11.000 Pedro, I want to talk about Ukraine and Republicans' continued support of this proxy war without ever able to tell us why it's in our national interest.

00:18:18.000 But first, I want to ask a more philosophical question that I think you can help me with and our audience with.

00:18:23.000 Why is it that America's elites are more interested in what's happening abroad than domestically?

00:18:29.000 What is it?

00:18:30.000 What drives that?

00:18:30.000 What is the urge, the temptation to care more about, let's just say, foreigners than our own citizens?

00:18:37.000 What's behind that?

00:18:39.000 Well, I think it's important to kind of understand everything that our ruling class does as foreign policy, which is to say that what they want to do abroad is also what they want to do here.

00:18:50.000 So you're right in the sense that it seems like they're neglecting the border, they're neglecting crime and things like that.

00:18:56.000 But in a way, they're not really in the sense that they're actually getting what they want here and abroad.

00:19:02.000 So I think all of these things are connected.

00:19:05.000 But I think that the threat of a country like Russia is not that Russia is, I think, a real material threat. 0.69

00:19:14.000 I mean, the war has shown that Russia is kind of like a second-rate regional power that has difficulty mobilizing its military to handle the challenges that it's facing in Ukraine.

00:19:25.000 So really, apart from its nuclear arsenal, which we seem to be encouraging it to use, Russia really doesn't pose a material threat to the United States.

00:19:33.000 I don't view Russia as a model for what America could be at all.

00:19:38.000 That idea is absurd, right?

00:19:40.000 That people like us want the United States to become like a Russia or something like that.

00:19:44.000 That's just not true.

00:19:46.000 But I think the hatred for Russia from our elites stems from the fact that the existence of a country that does not subscribe to the fundamentals of the U.S. regime of the people that are overseeing it is a kind of existential threat because it poses the possibility of just an alternative.

00:20:07.000 It may not be a good alternative in Russia's case, but just the fact that there is another way to organize your society, a way that you do not organize your society in such a way that it, you know, it normalizes transgenderism for kids and all of these different crazy things that you're seeing that are actually kind of integral aspects of the existing globalist American empire. 0.82

00:20:28.000 I think that just that it kind of incenses our elites because we might get ideas as Americans that maybe actually we don't have to live like this.

00:20:37.000 Maybe there's a different way that we could organize our political affairs.

00:20:39.000 And I think that that is ultimately at the heart of the hatred that our ruling class has for an otherwise, like I said, regional power like Russia that can't really hurt us.

00:20:49.000 Yeah, and that's a good philosophical answer.

00:20:51.000 Of course, there's a lot of people getting rich off of this too.

00:20:53.000 There's a lot of defense contractors, the war machine.

00:20:56.000 And I do find it interesting, though, because, you know, under that circumstance, you know, whether it be the kind of nation building in Ukraine and how Russia has a lot of problems, obviously, domestically, and we're not fans of that, but they have been very clear about social conservatism and let's just say the strong family and against transgenderism and all that other nonsense that we see infecting our society. 0.97

00:21:19.000 I could see why that would bother the American ruling class and elites.

00:21:23.000 So I want to play a piece of tape here.

00:21:25.000 There's despite all of the issues that we see happening in Ukraine and kind of how we further get entangled here, it seems as if we're doubling and tripling and quadrupling down.

00:21:37.000 And there's almost a fawning in the American elite, which is, I care a lot more about kind of something 5,000 miles away than the American southern border, which is so interesting to just continue to unpack philosophically.

00:21:49.000 But there is this clip, I don't know if we have it, of the British prime minister.

00:21:53.000 Have you seen this?

00:21:54.000 Where she said the only thing we're going to accept is victory in Ukraine, victory in Ukraine, victory in Ukraine.

00:22:00.000 It's amazing.

00:22:00.000 It's like this repeated incantation over and over and over again.

00:22:04.000 But let me instead play this one here, one that I do know we have.

00:22:07.000 Let's play this one of our media sitting down with the first lady of Ukraine showing pictures of Americans with bumper stickers and flags in support of Ukraine.

00:22:15.000 It's an incredible clip.

00:22:16.000 Play Cut 46 of Scott Pelly from 60 Minutes.

00:22:19.000 Are you stronger than you thought you were?

00:22:26.000 Everyone has become stronger.

00:22:28.000 I'm not unique.

00:22:29.000 Madam First Lady, may I show you some photographs from the United States?

00:22:34.000 With pleasure.

00:22:35.000 This is a picture I took on Fifth Avenue in New York.

00:22:41.000 This is a bumper sticker where I buy my groceries.

00:22:48.000 I took this picture on the east side of Manhattan.

00:22:52.000 What do you say to the American people?

00:22:56.000 It's good journalism, Pedro, isn't it?

00:22:59.000 It's just funny because, you know, like New York is undergoing this crime wave right now, and you literally have people, Americans, that are being killed in the streets of their own communities.

00:23:08.000 But it's fine because you stand with Ukraine and you wear a mask. 0.98

00:23:11.000 I mean, it's just, it's so absurd.

00:23:13.000 And like I said, I actually think these things are connected.

00:23:16.000 You asked the question, why do our elites seem to care more about a distant country?

00:23:20.000 Why do they seem to care more about illegal aliens than Americans? 0.54

00:23:23.000 That's exactly.

00:23:24.000 This kind of obsession with the other, whether the other is this country that we've created this kind of Marvel universe narrative around Ukraine, or the other in the sense of the illegal aliens that are getting kind of shipped around the country right now, right?

00:23:40.000 We create these myths about the other, and we're told that somehow we have, as Americans, it's our kind of obligation to sacrifice ourselves to the other, whether again, it's someone who crosses the southern border or this distant country that has no meaningful impact on American life.

00:23:59.000 I think it is all connected.

00:24:02.000 And I think related to this is the election in Italy, right?

00:24:06.000 I think what you're seeing from the new rising star in Italy, Maloney, is that her wager seems to be that I will pledge allegiance, and she might actually really sincerely believe this, but there's another element to this, right?

00:24:23.000 Basically, if I pledge allegiance to the U.S. foreign policy interest, then I can have kind of social conservatism at home.

00:24:33.000 Italy can do what it wants domestically as long as Italy subscribes to the foreign policy agenda of the United States, which means, you know, full support for NATO, you know, unflinching support for Ukraine.

00:24:42.000 But that's just not true.

00:24:44.000 You know that that's not true.

00:24:46.000 Poland, until recently, for example, was being demonized by liberals in the United States as this kind of regressive country.

00:24:53.000 And although Poland has kind of actually jumped the shark in a lot of ways with its support for Ukraine, you know, it's now talking about welcoming U.S. nuclear arsenal into its territory.

00:25:04.000 Like that, that's a crazy, provocative move.

00:25:06.000 But although Poland is doing that, Poland is still getting punished by the EU over its refusal to change its laws and its refusal to take in migrants from overseas and stuff.

00:25:17.000 So I think Italians, Maloney, are going to learn really quickly, you can't actually have it both ways. 1.00

00:25:23.000 If you pledge allegiance to the U.S. foreign policy interest in Washington, you can't have socially conservative politics at home.

00:25:31.000 The United States government, the State Department, won't allow it.

00:25:34.000 That's exactly right.

00:25:35.000 So, Pedro, what do you make then?

00:25:36.000 There's this seismic shift happening politically that really has our elites confused.

00:25:42.000 And by no means does this mean should we be allowed to continue to have southern porous borders, but Latinos in America, Hispanics, which you're a subject matter expert on, right, Pedro, are becoming radical right-wingers, it seems.

00:25:57.000 And the explanation by kind of normie Republicans is, well, it's because of gas prices.

00:26:02.000 Okay, I'm sure that's helpful.

00:26:04.000 But I think it's a cultural issue, isn't it?

00:26:06.000 I think it's about white woke people coming into their communities and saying men can become pregnant and masculinity is a bad thing.

00:26:15.000 What's your take on this, Pedro?

00:26:17.000 Yeah, I think it's complicated because I think Latinos are not a monolith, right?

00:26:21.000 Like you're just going to see different attitudes among different groups.

00:26:27.000 I think it's certainly true that you're seeing this phenomenon mostly in Tejanos and Latinos in Florida, that you're kind of seeing this turn to the right.

00:26:38.000 But I'm always wary of trying to read too much into it because in our politics, it's just the way things are, it gets used as a kind of excuse to promote more immigration, right?

00:26:48.000 The GOP will welcome this.

00:26:50.000 You know, well, this is proof.

00:26:51.000 These are natural conservatives and therefore we can, that's exactly, which is really frustrating because it actually makes it so that we're, it kind of taints our analysis of these things.

00:27:00.000 But I think that's certainly true.

00:27:02.000 I think it's certainly true that it's a kind of reaction to the left going too far and specifically going too far with regard to the family.

00:27:14.000 I think that you have this kind of willingness to fight among Latinos that white liberals just don't have.

00:27:22.000 When it comes to things like, you know, like, for example, this is in the news right now, these major medical associations have asked the DOJ to look into the threat, the supposed threat posed by parents and groups who are railing against transgenderism for kids.

00:27:40.000 And I think that obviously it's not just Latinos who are, that's not true at all.

00:27:45.000 It's not just Latinos that are angry about this, but I think there seems to be a kind of like strong familial sense that a lot of Latinos that basically when you threaten the family, whether that's through rioting or transgenderism, you're going to provoke a reaction that's not necessarily ideological.

00:28:00.000 It's more of just like, you know, you have to do it.

00:28:03.000 It's real, right?

00:28:03.000 I mean, that's where the left and these, you know, neoconservative, socially liberal people that kind of parachute in.

00:28:13.000 There's communities of people that say, I don't have enough money to not deal in reality.

00:28:18.000 I can't afford your luxury belief.

00:28:20.000 It's out of grasp for me, right?

00:28:23.000 And Latinos, more so than the blacks in America, seem to really be grasping onto this kind of move to the right. 0.74

00:28:30.000 But you're right, Pedro.

00:28:31.000 We have to resist this from becoming a mass amnesty play because I could totally see it where Republicans say, hey, look, now there are people.

00:28:40.000 Let's do this.

00:28:40.000 Hold on a second.

00:28:41.000 You're not understanding the immigration story.

00:28:43.000 You're not understanding all the different implications here.

00:28:48.000 Pedro, what's your take on Twitter and Ben Collins kind of talking about the current censorship regime?

00:28:55.000 I have the tweet here.

00:28:56.000 We can read it, but your thoughts first.

00:28:58.000 Well, like you said, I think the Elon Twitter saga has always been interesting because of what it reveals.

00:29:05.000 Because like you said, we don't know if Elon is actually going to pull the trigger on this.

00:29:08.000 And we also don't know if it'll bring meaningful, lasting change to the platform and make it better.

00:29:14.000 But that's kind of secondary to the fact that a lot of things are revealed in just the shakeup of this whole thing.

00:29:23.000 And the most recent example is Ben Collins, who is a reporter for NBC News.

00:29:27.000 His Twitter bio says that he's on the dystopian beat.

00:29:30.000 And I like to say that irony is kind of dead because irony is when something is set up to kind of deliberately contradict our expectations.

00:29:39.000 But we know exactly, like it's not a surprising at all.

00:29:44.000 In other words, we expect it when we see a title that says dystopia beat that this person is not actually covering the machinations of the dystopian regime.

00:29:54.000 He's actually running cover for them.

00:29:56.000 And so we can expect that from Ben Collins, right?

00:29:58.000 It's just a given.

00:29:59.000 Like, okay, well, this guy is just kind of a shill for the system.

00:30:03.000 And so that this thread that he that he wrote about Elon is really interesting, not because it's surprising, but it's because it's so honest.

00:30:11.000 Yes.

00:30:11.000 Basically, he says that if Elon buys or if Elon assumes control of Twitter, that he thinks it could very, very likely affect the midterms.

00:30:20.000 That, in other words, changes to how the system does content moderation and all that could affect the outcome of an election.

00:30:28.000 But for that to be true, Twitter has to already have the ability to influence elections.

00:30:36.000 In other words, it already does that.

00:30:37.000 Which we know, which we know they do, and he's admitting it.

00:30:41.000 And Twitter is a unique thing.

00:30:42.000 He's admitting it because, and this is important for some of our listeners that don't spend time on Twitter because we have some listeners that are in their 60s or 70s are not on social media all the time.

00:30:50.000 Twitter, it's not about the volume of people, which is not insignificant, but it's kind of the top of the tributary.

00:30:56.000 It is the incubator of elite thought.

00:30:58.000 Talk about that, Pedro.

00:31:00.000 Yeah, no, it is.

00:31:01.000 Twitter is interesting because, like you said, we don't know how many people are actually on it because the whole question of bots and all that stuff.

00:31:07.000 We know who is.

00:31:09.000 Yes.

00:31:10.000 Right.

00:31:10.000 And there might be bigger platforms somewhere else or whatever in terms of like it's reached the general population.

00:31:14.000 But Twitter seems to be a kind of hangout in particular for people that are involved in politics and activism and things like that.

00:31:21.000 So it is, it's interesting because conservatives will say like, well, the internet is not real life.

00:31:25.000 Twitter is not real life.

00:31:26.000 Well, actually, what happens on Twitter and what is said on Twitter actually does seem to have an outsized influence on real world outcomes.

00:31:33.000 And so here you have a reporter for NBC News saying losing control of Twitter could basically make it more difficult for Democrats to win elections.

00:31:44.000 But again, you have to accept that Twitter is already helping Democrats win elections, if that's true.

00:31:51.000 And that's, I think, the most kind of amusing aspect of this is that Collins just comes out and says it.

00:31:57.000 And then, of course, he doubles down on why that's good.

00:31:59.000 Well, why is that good?

00:31:59.000 Well, because the opposite is authoritarianism and, you know, racism and things like that.

00:32:05.000 Because they don't recognize, like, kind of going back to the discussion about foreign policy, these people don't recognize in domestic politics any alternative to their preferred policies and outcomes.

00:32:16.000 They don't.

00:32:17.000 They just immediately write them off as bigoted, sexist, you know, homophobic, whatever, authoritarian.

00:32:24.000 And so I think that this is the most interesting thing about the whole Musk saga is what it reveals to us.

00:32:31.000 I want to play a piece of tape here.

00:32:32.000 Play Cut 98, how the liberal media reacted to Elon when the takeover was announced.

00:32:37.000 Play 98.

00:32:38.000 It's delicious.

00:32:39.000 You own all of Twitter or Facebook or what have you.

00:32:42.000 You don't have to explain yourself.

00:32:43.000 You don't even have to be transparent.

00:32:44.000 You could secretly ban one party's candidate or all of its candidates, all of its nominees, or you could just secretly turn down the reach of their stuff and turn up the reach of something else.

00:32:55.000 And the rest of us might not even find out about it until after the election.

00:33:00.000 Elon Musk says this is all to help people because he is just a free speech, philosophically clear, open-minded helper.

00:33:08.000 I don't know, shadow banning.

00:33:09.000 We wouldn't know anything about that.

00:33:11.000 It's funny because Ben Collins is saying, yeah, no, we do that already.

00:33:14.000 It's just good when we do it.

00:33:16.000 And it's bad when the other side wants to do it.

00:33:18.000 That's literally what Ben Collins, that's the essence of his thread, which is obviously the opposite of what that person, that punnett just said.

00:33:24.000 Like, what if somebody does do this?

00:33:26.000 Collins is like, no, we already do it.

00:33:27.000 It's good, but it's good.

00:33:28.000 Yes.

00:33:29.000 Pedro Gonzalez from Chronicles Magazine.

00:33:31.000 Great job as always.

00:33:32.000 Thank you.

00:33:36.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:33:37.000 Email me your thoughts as always.

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00:33:40.000 Thanks so much for listening.

00:33:41.000 God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - October 05, 2022

Democrats are Weird. With Newt Gingrich and Pedro Gonzales

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