The Charlie Kirk Show - Deport the Third World + What Is An American?

00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.

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00:01:17.000 Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:19.000 It is June 25th, 2026.

00:01:23.000 Welcome to the YRefi Studios in Phoenix, Arizona.

00:01:26.000 How are we doing, Blake?

00:01:27.000 You know, until you said YRefi Studio, because I remain Mike Flagless.

00:01:31.000 I don't know what the deal is.

00:01:32.000 You should know.

00:01:34.000 There must be a supply chain issue.

00:01:36.000 It's not very good.

00:01:37.000 I need a mic flag.

00:01:38.000 Anyways, good to be with you all from sea to shining sea.

00:01:43.000 I was watching the Great American State Fair last night, the kickoff with President Trump.

00:01:48.000 I thought it was beautiful.

00:01:49.000 There were B2 flyovers, F 16s, F 35s.

00:01:53.000 You got Brooke Rollins, Sean Duffy.

00:01:55.000 You had all kinds of cabinet secretaries there.

00:01:58.000 It was a beautiful display of Americana.

00:02:01.000 I was very happy to watch it.

00:02:03.000 I hope you guys take a look at the Great American State Fair.

00:02:06.000 What is it?

00:02:07.000 Now I'm getting confused.

00:02:08.000 Great American State Fair.

00:02:09.000 Yes.

00:02:10.000 Okay.

00:02:11.000 Anyways, the name is what the name is.

00:02:14.000 Anyways, there's a lot to be proud of in this country.

00:02:16.000 And can you just imagine for a second if Kamala Harris would have won?

00:02:21.000 It would have started off with a land acknowledgement. 0.89

00:02:24.000 It would have been an apology tour.

00:02:26.000 They would have been talking about how systemically oppressive and racist and all this stuff.

00:02:31.000 We don't have any of that.

00:02:32.000 We got UFC fights and B 2 bombers. 1.00

00:02:34.000 That's great. 1.00

00:02:35.000 It's way better.

00:02:37.000 Way better.

00:02:38.000 Listen, there's.

00:02:39.000 It's a celebration of American innovations.

00:02:41.000 You got jet engines.

00:02:42.000 You got 56 or 150 different exhibits.

00:02:46.000 You got 50 states having their exhibit there, plus the six territories.

00:02:50.000 It's a beautiful display of Americana.

00:02:52.000 I just love it. 0.99

00:02:53.000 You got Maha Mondays.

00:02:54.000 So glyphosate had a win in the Supreme Court.

00:02:57.000 They did.

00:02:57.000 And that's what we're diving into.

00:02:57.000 Oh, they did.

00:02:59.000 Well, partly.

00:03:01.000 I think we should start, Blake, with the big Supreme Court wins on immigration.

00:03:07.000 So we have some good news and we have some bad news.

00:03:09.000 We have.

00:03:09.000 Four cases today, I'd say three everyone would consider a win, and the one is going to be much more divided because we also got the Supreme Court ruling on guns in Hawaii.

00:03:17.000 Yes, we did.

00:03:18.000 I'll mention that one in passing.

00:03:20.000 Basically, Hawaii had a law that said if you have a legal concealed carry permit, you can't bring it on any private property that's open to the public.

00:03:28.000 They struck that down.

00:03:29.000 Yes.

00:03:29.000 And so, big win for gun owners in Hawaii, big win for gun owners in any blue state where they still do everything they can to block the right to bear arms.

00:03:37.000 But much bigger than that, we had two rulings related to. 0.51

00:03:42.000 Immigration today.

00:03:43.000 We're still waiting on the birthright citizenship one, and we remain skeptical, but it's important to know when we get wins.

00:03:50.000 So, first, the Supreme Court ruled that the Trump administration is allowed to get rid of temporary protected status specifically for Haitians and for Syrians in the country.

00:04:03.000 TPS, as they call it, means that people who are in the U.S. illegally, it is established they're here illegally, they are temporarily blocked from being deported because of.

00:04:14.000 An emergency in their countries, it's not very temporary.

00:04:17.000 Yeah, this is what drives you nuts when you see this stuff because they say, well, they're not illegals.

00:04:23.000 They're under TPS protection. 0.89

00:04:24.000 They can stay here.

00:04:25.000 They can work, all this stuff. 0.98

00:04:26.000 No, just because you put a name on them, just because you game the system, just because the Democrats basically want to flood the country with third worlders doesn't make it legal. 0.81

00:04:35.000 These are essentially illegal people. 0.97

00:04:37.000 The Trump administration is moving to get rid of them.

00:04:40.000 The Supreme Court had the Trump administration's back 6 3.

00:04:43.000 So here we go.

00:04:44.000 I want to take you back down memory lane just a smidge.

00:04:47.000 To February 2024.

00:04:50.000 And let's play this beautiful all-timer 29.

00:04:53.000 In Springfield, they're eating the dogs, the people that came in.

00:04:58.000 They're eating the cats.

00:05:01.000 They're eating the pets of the people that live there.

00:05:05.000 And this is what's happening in our country.

00:05:08.000 And it's a shame.

00:05:09.000 That's probably not February, actually.

00:05:10.000 I think it was mislabeled.

00:05:11.000 That was August.

00:05:13.000 I think it was August.

00:05:15.000 Maybe July.

00:05:16.000 But that was a great moment.

00:05:18.000 And then full circle, here you go.

00:05:20.000 SOT 35.

00:05:22.000 The Supreme Court out with another decision, this time regarding the fate of certain migrants living with temporary protected status.

00:05:28.000 There are a bunch of them.

00:05:29.000 And Shannon Bream joins us again with more.

00:05:31.000 Shannon, how do we read this one?

00:05:34.000 Okay, so Dana, we read it as a win for the Trump administration, which has wanted to wipe out temporary protected status for more than a million people who are living here in this country.

00:05:42.000 These cases centered on a number of Haitian and Syrian refugees who were here in the country.

00:05:47.000 And basically, what the court has said is that they can't challenge this decision by.

00:05:53.000 The Department of Homeland Security by the administration that they're the ones who get to make the assessment about whether they leave or not.

00:05:59.000 So that number, a million.

00:06:02.000 Yeah.

00:06:03.000 Like, put that in perspective for us, Blake.

00:06:06.000 A million?

00:06:08.000 In comparison to what?

00:06:09.000 I mean, that's like about.

00:06:09.000 That's like one in.

00:06:10.000 One in 20 are Americans or people in America?

00:06:10.000 What did you say?

00:06:14.000 I mean, as the example is, we had about 300,000 people, 350,000 Haitians are under temporary protected status because they gave them it twice.

00:06:14.000 No, no.

00:06:24.000 Literally, the Biden administration did this.

00:06:25.000 The first one they got under Obama.

00:06:27.000 There was that big earthquake in Haiti in 2011.

00:06:29.000 And then they still had it for that.

00:06:31.000 But then the Biden administration did bonus TPS in 2021 because they had another crisis in Haiti.

00:06:38.000 So anyone who came after that, oh, they also get it.

00:06:41.000 So you had 350,000.

00:06:42.000 That is one in every thousand people in America, roughly, is specifically a Haitian under temporary protected status.

00:06:49.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:06:50.000 And now all of them are eligible to be removed.

00:06:53.000 It's a beautiful thing.

00:06:55.000 And I will tell you so that there was a second win that basically.

00:06:59.000 The Supreme Court, same 6 3 decision.

00:07:02.000 And it's the Mullen v. Al otro lado, the asylum turn back decision.

00:07:08.000 So explain that one, Blake.

00:07:10.000 So that one is that it's actually a very funny one because it's about technically who has arrived in the United States.

00:07:16.000 And it's because federal law says once you've arrived in the United States, you're allowed to claim asylum.

00:07:23.000 And the Trump administration has said if you're at a border crossing point, you have not arrived in the United States.

00:07:29.000 At the door of the United States.

00:07:32.000 And so they say, we're allowed to turn those people around and say we're not letting them in, so they're not allowed to claim asylum.

00:07:36.000 We know the asylum system is 110% gamed.

00:07:41.000 People know there's five, six stories that you give them.

00:07:44.000 I was persecuted for being gay.

00:07:46.000 I was persecuted for my political belief. 0.78

00:07:48.000 They know what to say.

00:07:50.000 By the way, on that point, there's a bunch of NGOs.

00:07:52.000 And NGOs train you in how to game the system.

00:07:54.000 They train them how to game the system.

00:07:55.000 They give them the representation.

00:07:56.000 So we want to call BS on this and say, we're not going to let you do this anymore.

00:08:02.000 And so the Trump administration has been saying, yeah, when you arrive at your front door, we're turning you around.

00:08:07.000 This is the remain in Mexico policy, among other things.

00:08:09.000 You remain in Mexico while we consider whether we actually evaluate this.

00:08:14.000 And the Supreme Court said that's valid. 0.98

00:08:16.000 They're allowed to turn them around at the front door. 0.99

00:08:18.000 So, one of the increasingly, one of the dwindling means through which migrants have to try to worm their way into the United States and remain long term has been closed off. 0.97

00:08:29.000 And so, another win. 1.00

00:08:30.000 We're getting a win for people in this country illegally getting sent home and people arriving at the front door being turned away. 0.87

00:08:37.000 And we want to highlight that because we're aware. 0.99

00:08:40.000 The birthright citizenship case might not go our way.

00:08:43.000 I think a lot of people expect it.

00:08:45.000 And I want to flag, I know, I hope we're wrong, but I want to flag, even if that goes against us, all that does is preserve a status quo we've had for a century.

00:08:55.000 And meanwhile, we're making gains.

00:08:56.000 We're making gains.

00:08:58.000 Yeah, we are making gains.

00:08:59.000 And by the way, the Supreme Court has successfully, in two different cases, established common sense in our immigration policy.

00:09:06.000 It's great.

00:09:07.000 It's a very good thing.

00:09:08.000 Obviously, birthright citizenship is the big one.

00:09:10.000 A lot of people were thinking the decision was going to come down this morning, it did not.

00:09:14.000 So, we're looking at probably maybe next week, the week after, right?

00:09:17.000 That's kind of what we're aiming for. 0.98

00:09:19.000 That's the big kahuna. 0.98

00:09:21.000 And we need them to rule our way. 1.00

00:09:23.000 Even if it's a 5 4, we'll take it. 1.00

00:09:26.000 And again, I just say to Chief Justice Roberts a great country would not allow itself to be gamed by birth tourists and foreigners dropping a baby off on the other side of a border. 0.99

00:09:36.000 Makes zero sense. 1.00

00:09:38.000 Got to get rid of that.

00:09:39.000 And listen, if we don't get the ruling that goes our way, there are legislative options.

00:09:43.000 But I don't even want to talk about that right now.

00:09:45.000 It's ridiculous we're even here.

00:09:46.000 So, So, what's interesting about this TPS, I'm just looking into it more.

00:09:52.000 So, you know, President Trump has been trying to get rid of TPS, temporary protected status, for Haitians since 2017.

00:10:00.000 It was blocked by a lower court in 2018 until time ran out.

00:10:04.000 And then it was restarted by President Biden, as you mentioned.

00:10:07.000 So these, you know, are supposedly, you know, nonpartisan, you know, just straight down the middle judicial system.

00:10:14.000 They're not activist judges.

00:10:15.000 Oh, yes, they are.

00:10:16.000 It has taken eight years and seven months.

00:10:20.000 For the Supreme Court to step in and right the wrong of the activist judges.

00:10:24.000 The black robe tyranny in this country.

00:10:27.000 Eight years and seven months for the president to enact a constitutional executive authority.

00:10:35.000 That's insane.

00:10:36.000 It's just such a perfect symbol of how sinister the open borders forces are that you'd create something called temporary protected status, which clearly existed for like, you're supposed to be deported.

00:10:48.000 Your country got hit by a hurricane.

00:10:50.000 We can't safely send a plane there right now.

00:10:53.000 Something that was supposed to last.

00:10:55.000 A week. 1.00

00:10:55.000 They do this with Somalia too. 1.00

00:10:57.000 Somalians, they get this TPS and they get led into the country.

00:11:00.000 These guys are going back on vacation to visit their cousins in Somalia. 0.95

00:11:04.000 People will go on.

00:11:05.000 That's another thing.

00:11:06.000 If you're a refugee in America, an asylum seeker in America, neither of those statuses precludes you from just visiting your home country that you had to flee because it's unsafe.

00:11:14.000 So many jokes to this.

00:11:16.000 El Salvador is still under temporary protected status because of an earthquake in 2001.

00:11:21.000 I would note, I love the Salvadoran government right now, but I don't think they need temporary protected status.

00:11:25.000 El Salvador is safer than America now.

00:11:28.000 I want to.

00:11:28.000 Highlight a detail here because I know a lot of you in the audience are Christians, and maybe you get asked questions about aren't you supposed to protect the sojourner in your land?

00:11:37.000 Let's talk about this.

00:11:38.000 Let's play Cut 26 because I think it highlights this very well.

00:11:42.000 Sot 26.

00:11:43.000 City leaders say an estimated 15,000 Haitians call Springfield home, but their temporary protected status, which was extended back in 2024, is set to end Wednesday, meaning many of them could soon be forced to go back to Haiti or at least leave the U.S. Welcomeing immigrants is as important as welcoming Christ himself.

00:12:05.000 Okay.

00:12:06.000 That is a common bastardization of the scriptures.

00:12:11.000 Let me explain a couple things.

00:12:12.000 So, first of all, it says in Acts that God ordains the nations and boundaries.

00:12:17.000 From one man he made all the nations that they should inhabit the whole earth, and he marked out their appointed times in history and the boundaries of their lands.

00:12:25.000 So, borders are good, right?

00:12:27.000 This is talked about in Deuteronomy 32 as well as Acts 17.

00:12:31.000 Borders are really, really good.

00:12:31.000 Okay.

00:12:32.000 They come from God.

00:12:33.000 God loves.

00:12:34.000 God opposes chaos.

00:12:34.000 Order.

00:12:36.000 He spoke order into being in Genesis.

00:12:39.000 He spoke creation into being.

00:12:41.000 All right.

00:12:42.000 So that's first thing.

00:12:43.000 So the Old Testament does talk about strangers and sojourners, but these were not illegal immigrants.

00:12:48.000 These were not invading forces.

00:12:50.000 Okay.

00:12:50.000 There's verses like Leviticus 19 love the foreigner as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt.

00:12:57.000 In Exodus 22 21, they get cited a lot by guys like that that want to do these bleeding heart progressive.

00:13:05.000 Pastors, okay?

00:13:07.000 The difference there, if you look at the root word, ger, sojourner, stranger, that was a legal resident who entered lawfully, submitted to Israel's laws, and often assimilated, okay?

00:13:20.000 That is a very distinct difference, okay, than what we have now.

00:13:23.000 They were not invaders, they were not welfare migrants, they were not lawbreakers.

00:13:27.000 Israel had borders, they controlled their entry, they still control their entry. 0.85

00:13:31.000 I would love if we had borders as strong as Israel's are today. 0.97

00:13:34.000 And they enforced rules. 0.99

00:13:35.000 Foreigners could be excluded or face consequences. 1.00

00:13:38.000 If they didn't live up to those commands.

00:13:42.000 So these are very, very different things.

00:13:44.000 Okay, now it says in the New Testament, you got to submit to your governing authorities.

00:13:47.000 So if we, as the United States of America, the governing authority that was elected duly by the people, deems that TPS time has run out, you got to go because that's submitting to the governing authorities.

00:14:00.000 That's a biblical command.

00:14:03.000 And there is, by the last point I'll make, there is zero, zero command in the scriptures about.

00:14:09.000 Requiring open borders or amnesty for anybody.

00:14:11.000 That is not a command at all, anywhere within the scripture.

00:14:14.000 It's such a weaponized argument that they will make.

00:14:17.000 Clearly, our obligation towards the poor, towards the traveler, these are individual moral requirements upon us.

00:14:27.000 We have to care for travelers, we have to care for the vulnerable.

00:14:31.000 It is very mendacious when, let's just say it, third worlds, people who frankly usually despise Christianity, when they try to weaponize this and say, actually, this is what you have to structure your.

00:14:42.000 Entire state around.

00:14:44.000 It would be like saying we are supposed to forgive those who persecute us.

00:14:48.000 We are supposed to love our enemies, and therefore the state should not punish any criminals.

00:14:52.000 When in fact, it's the exact opposite.

00:14:54.000 The state has to fairly punish criminals.

00:14:57.000 They have to protect other citizens.

00:14:59.000 They have to protect the people.

00:15:00.000 When you talk about love your neighbor as yourself, how am I supposed to love my fellow American, my neighbor in this country, if I'm just opening the borders to any third world nation?

00:15:09.000 Opening the borders or allowing criminals to prey on them?

00:15:12.000 I always find it very important, for example, in In the Bible, Jesus speaks to Roman legionaries, and he doesn't tell them they should lay down their arms, they should quit their jobs.

00:15:23.000 He tells them, don't oppress the people.

00:15:24.000 So don't extort money from them.

00:15:26.000 Don't do violence against them and be content with your wages.

00:15:29.000 So he's saying, do your jobs properly.

00:15:32.000 And doing your job properly, if you're a Roman legionnaire, would include enforcing the law.

00:15:36.000 It would include protecting other people.

00:15:38.000 It would include fighting sometimes.

00:15:40.000 Yeah.

00:15:41.000 And that's a good point.

00:15:42.000 That is what good government is good government protects the people of your country, it upholds the laws, it sets fair laws. 0.91

00:15:51.000 You are not doing a Christian thing when our nation has immigration laws and we Ignore them. 1.00

00:15:57.000 We throw them out. 1.00

00:15:59.000 We force people to accept a bunch of foreigners permanently into their country on the grounds they are sojourners. 1.00

00:16:05.000 They're not sojourners if they're moved permanently into here. 1.00

00:16:08.000 A person is not a sojourner if they have moved into your house permanently.

00:16:11.000 They are a new inhabitant, they are a new resident.

00:16:14.000 If you meet an immigrant on the street, by all means, be kind to them. 1.00

00:16:19.000 And then vote for the government that will remove them. 1.00

00:16:19.000 You should be. 1.00

00:16:23.000 That's how I feel.

00:16:24.000 And I think that's a lot of you guys feel. 0.97

00:16:27.000 Because we were suckers for way too long in this country. 0.97

00:16:30.000 No more. 0.97

00:16:31.000 Thank you, President Trump.

00:16:33.000 And good job to the Supreme Court.

00:16:34.000 We hope you get birthright citizenship right next.

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00:17:57.000 All right, Sean Davis, CEO of The Federalist, co founder of The Federalist, and uh, Ex writer extraordinaire, you have been cracking me up, Sean, because you are just, I mean, you're just letting it rip right now.

00:18:11.000 And you're reacting to what happened in New York, the DSA sweep, and you've got some spicy takes.

00:18:19.000 But I'll just let you say, what is your take?

00:18:22.000 What happened in New York? 1.00

00:18:23.000 Yeah, my take is when you import a bunch of retarded foreign communists into your country and let them vote, slowly over time, they're going to take over your country. 1.00

00:18:32.000 And they're starting with New York City. 1.00

00:18:35.000 It's interesting.

00:18:36.000 If you go back a year and you look at Mamdani's election, it was not New Yorkers who were voting for him.

00:18:43.000 It was people who had immigrated here who were voting for him.

00:18:46.000 The actual New Yorkers, the people who were born in and grew up in New York, they wanted someone else.

00:18:51.000 They wanted another actual New Yorker. 0.99

00:18:54.000 So I feel like New York is a microcosm, something of an omen, a vision into our future of what will happen if we continue to allow unchecked foreign migration into the country and allow them to take over our elections. 1.00

00:19:09.000 Because the reality is, when they come here, they don't assimilate anymore. 1.00

00:19:13.000 They may have at one time, but they don't anymore.

00:19:15.000 They find their home communities here in the US.

00:19:18.000 They keep their language, they keep their culture, they keep their customs, and they vote together as a block. 0.78

00:19:23.000 And that block is not American.

00:19:25.000 So if you are horrified by what you're seeing in New York City, there's only one solution. 1.00

00:19:30.000 And the solution is we have to stop this insane mass invasion of foreign migrants into our country. 1.00

00:19:36.000 And we need to stop it now before we lose the country entirely. 1.00

00:19:39.000 I'm finding myself totally amazed.

00:19:41.000 I saw, I can't remember who said it, but a tweet.

00:19:43.000 This is my last day voting as a Democrat in New York because I'm so upset by the direction the party has gone.

00:19:49.000 And I know you're rolling your eyes, I'm rolling my eyes.

00:19:52.000 All we can think is every single thing the Democrat Party has done for the past 50 years, essentially, has been attempting to bring this about. 0.80

00:20:02.000 You have decided to bring in the third world. 0.60

00:20:04.000 Did you think you were not bringing in third world political ideologies, which is going to include anti Americanism, anti capitalism, anti private property, anti Semitism, anti white people? 0.89

00:20:17.000 That was all brought in, that all existed 50 years ago.

00:20:20.000 What did you think was going to happen?

00:20:22.000 Yeah, and it's kind of amazing.

00:20:23.000 I watched Dan Goldman, who was this actual nephew baby who lost his primary.

00:20:31.000 He's an heir to, I think, a jeans fortune that his grandparents earned, bought himself a seat in Congress and thought that he could protect himself by being super duper anti Trump all the time, no matter how deranged and delusional it was, and by just voting for, again, unchecked mass immigration.

00:20:49.000 And the problem that I think these Democrats are starting to realize they have is that.

00:20:55.000 When they allowed all these people in, they thought these people would stay kept.

00:20:59.000 They thought that these immigrants coming in would understand that they're just very small clients within the Democrat Party.

00:21:07.000 They were there to vote with the coalition, they weren't there to make decisions for it or lead for it.

00:21:11.000 And so you have Goldman there, who has been sponsoring and pushing this stuff all the time, suddenly shocked to learn that, wow, all these people we brought over here because we thought they would be helpful with the Democrat Party, they actually want to be in charge now.

00:21:25.000 And that's not how this was supposed to work.

00:21:27.000 Supposed to understand that we were going to get to be in charge and they were just going to be our little pets.

00:21:33.000 And so it's just a fascinating thing to watch among the Democrat establishment to now, they're basically Dr. Frankenstein and they're realizing that their monster is more powerful than they are and they don't know what to do about it.

00:21:46.000 There's a tweet here from Stephen Miller who I know, Sean, you and I both have an admiration for.

00:21:54.000 He tweeted, I said, half of all college graduates in New York City.

00:21:58.000 Are immigrants or from immigrant households.

00:22:00.000 So when observers say college grads in New York City are embracing communism, this is not a homegrown phenomenon.

00:22:07.000 And he points that out because people have tried to say if you look at the demographics in New York, it was young people, college graduates, they were the ones who were driving the communist thing.

00:22:17.000 It's not the traditional Hispanic working class that's been the bedrock of the Democrat Party there.

00:22:24.000 And so people are saying, well, actually, no, this is just white liberals who are driving this all.

00:22:28.000 It's not an immigration thing.

00:22:29.000 And as he points out, it's just, it's fictitious.

00:22:32.000 They're trying to have it both ways here.

00:22:34.000 It is 100% immigration related. 1.00

00:22:36.000 We have imported foreigners. 1.00

00:22:38.000 We have imported third worlders. 1.00

00:22:40.000 And we have imported their grudges, their tribalism, and their backwards ways. 1.00

00:22:45.000 That's a fact when you look at New York City.

00:22:48.000 And these are the chickens coming home to roost.

00:22:51.000 And yeah, this is another point that a lot of people are making they were willing to stand by with all the anti white bias, all the anti white racism.

00:23:00.000 And now. 0.75

00:23:01.000 Dan Goldman can't even get served coffee at New York City because he's a Jew.

00:23:05.000 They now have turned on him. 0.97

00:23:07.000 The Eat Me Last Democrats are finally paying.

00:23:10.000 And I think it'll be interesting to see what happens.

00:23:13.000 I'm not happy about this, by the way.

00:23:14.000 I don't think this is a good thing.

00:23:16.000 Nobody should be excited that this is happening in New York, which should be America's greatest city, the city that gave us Donald Trump, right?

00:23:25.000 This is a terrible, terrible omen that portends terrible, terrible things for the country in years to come.

00:23:30.000 So, what do we do now, Sean?

00:23:33.000 I saw you retweet an interesting take, and I'm curious if you stand by it.

00:23:33.000 You have some.

00:23:39.000 It's from Aesthetica, where it's talking about the 1954 Nationality Act and Communist Control Act of 1954.

00:23:39.000 We can show it.

00:23:48.000 What do you think of this?

00:23:49.000 Do you think this is a.

00:23:51.000 A viable solution?

00:23:52.000 Well, I actually think our solutions are very simple and easy.

00:23:57.000 The people who came over here and lied when they took the oath of citizenship, people who have dual loyalties, people who are not loyal to America, who reject everything we believe in, they need to be denaturalized and removed.

00:24:09.000 Period.

00:24:10.000 If you are a communist, you are not allowed to be a citizen because you are against our entire way of government.

00:24:17.000 You cannot come over and take, honestly, the citizenship pledge.

00:24:22.000 With two fingers crossed behind your back while you plot our demise on behalf of communism.

00:24:27.000 So that's number one.

00:24:28.000 They all need to go back.

00:24:30.000 And then number two, you just close the border.

00:24:33.000 And I don't feel I'm being unreasonable when I say, you know what, let's close the border for, I don't know, 50 years and let's see what happens.

00:24:41.000 Let's see what happens to our country when we say, you know what, this country is just for Americans.

00:24:46.000 It is for, as the founder said, our posterity, which means our children, our descendants.

00:24:54.000 So, I don't think it's a difficult problem.

00:24:57.000 Mechanically, it is very easy.

00:24:59.000 You round up the people who are communist subversives and you send them all back, and then you stop letting people in. 0.95

00:25:05.000 Now, the problem is that actually takes a fair amount of courage and spine and testicular fortitude, which sadly is an endangered species in Washington, D.C. Because between the two parties, the Democrats are just all in on the invasion, and then the Republicans are largely a bunch of cowards with a few exceptions. 0.53

00:25:24.000 So, what we need is actually a steel infusion into the spines of Republican members, or they need to be sent packing as well.

00:25:32.000 So, it's a simple solution mechanically.

00:25:35.000 Getting there is the difficult part.

00:25:37.000 Getting Republicans who actually have balls in the spine is the difficult thing we have to face right now.

00:25:43.000 I mean, and when I love this idea, though, because a lot of these people, there's three of them, are probably going to be heading to Congress, right?

00:25:43.000 Yeah.

00:25:49.000 So, fighting for the total eradication of Western civilization.

00:25:52.000 Yeah, that's a group.

00:25:53.000 That's a group. 1.00

00:25:54.000 Dara Lisa Chevalier, she's the Haitian Muslim convert. 1.00

00:25:58.000 Founded a group that says they're fighting for the eradication of Western civilization. 1.00

00:25:58.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:26:02.000 If you are fighting for the eradication of Western civilization, per that Aesthetica tweet that you retweeted, can we denaturalize her?

00:26:11.000 Can we send her packing? 0.72

00:26:12.000 And the whole, just to make sure I'm being clear about this idea, it's saying, you know, denaturalize and deport them using the Immigration Nationality Act and Communist Control Act of 1954. 0.87

00:26:25.000 They're completely within their rights to do this.

00:26:26.000 It will create a national scandal that will force mainstream Democrats to defend these radical communists, which they do not want to do.

00:26:33.000 They want to ignore them.

00:26:35.000 Most importantly, it sets a precedent and severely hampers the long term plans of the DSA communist left, which, by the way, Politico had an article this morning saying they're coming for 2028.

00:26:45.000 Do you think the country could handle this national scandal of denaturalizing and deporting an incoming congressman?

00:26:53.000 I don't think it's whether the country politically can handle it.

00:26:56.000 If you have gangrene in one of your limbs, can you handle allowing the gangrene to metastasize and take your whole body?

00:27:05.000 Amputation is very painful.

00:27:06.000 It's not particularly fun.

00:27:08.000 It seems to me to be better than dying of gangrene.

00:27:12.000 So, yeah, a lot of times, if you talk to people who have had cancer, chemo is really, really crappy.

00:27:18.000 Radiation is crappy.

00:27:19.000 It's better than the alternative.

00:27:21.000 And we have allowed our country now to be so taken over by this that now the entire body is at risk.

00:27:28.000 And so we have to make the decision do we want the body to die or do we want to do the hard and maybe painful things that have to be done to save the body politic?

00:27:37.000 I think that's an easy answer.

00:27:38.000 I want to save the country.

00:27:40.000 I want to save America.

00:27:41.000 I want to save our political body.

00:27:43.000 And that means doing things like sometimes you have to.

00:27:46.000 To cut off the gangrene limbs, if you want to save the body. 0.98

00:27:49.000 I'm thinking right now of Hassan Piker, a man who has called for capitalist blood in the street, who was born in the United States and then was raised in Turkey and now is coming back and he's pushing a lot of this garbage. 0.99

00:28:02.000 He's called for the death of conservatives. 0.98

00:28:06.000 That's what we have. 0.91

00:28:08.000 That sounds gangrenous enough to me.

00:28:10.000 Sean, I want to show you this graph. 0.98

00:28:12.000 This is the foreign born numbers and share are higher now than it.

00:28:17.000 Any other time in American history, we go back from 1850 to 2025.

00:28:23.000 This is from the Center for Immigration Studies.

00:28:25.000 So we have 53.3 million foreign born.

00:28:29.000 I think that number is low, actually.

00:28:32.000 And if you, you know, we're talking about the super centennial, I think is what we are, or whatever, versus 1976.

00:28:40.000 And we've talked about how in 1976 it felt like the entire country put aside its partisan divides.

00:28:45.000 There was actually a lot of political tumult in 1976.

00:28:50.000 There was a lot of controversy, but the nation still came together.

00:28:53.000 It felt like one nation, massive, massive celebration.

00:28:56.000 And this time it does feel different.

00:28:58.000 I love the celebration, just to be clear.

00:29:00.000 I love it.

00:29:00.000 And I think everybody should throw their whole hearts into it and celebrate this country's 250th.

00:29:05.000 But if you look when that happened, it was at a time when we had approximately the lowest in history number of foreign born people living in this country.

00:29:16.000 And there was a reason the country felt more united, there was a reason the country felt more cohesive. 0.89

00:29:23.000 And this is what we've done to ourselves since basically the 1980s.

00:29:27.000 Look at that graph.

00:29:29.000 I think this graph should be pinned on everybody's feed and we should have it framed in the office.

00:29:34.000 This is not the way to run a country, Sean.

00:29:37.000 No, it's not.

00:29:38.000 And there's an additional fact there.

00:29:41.000 Since 76, in those 50 years, we probably murdered conservatively 60 million American babies. 0.77

00:29:48.000 So not only did we import the third world and import in the rest of the world's religion and customs and cultures and languages. 0.97

00:29:56.000 We started killing our own people in mass. 0.94

00:30:00.000 And so, of course, we're a transformed country now.

00:30:02.000 We are absolutely not the country that we were in 1976 or 1986 or even 1996 or even 2001.

00:30:10.000 I mean, even after 9 11, everyone understood how awful that was Democrat and Republican.

00:30:18.000 Now, that detente didn't last all that long, but we were all united and understanding this was bad and you can't have something in this country.

00:30:27.000 We now have people in the Democrat Party saying America deserved it.

00:30:31.000 So, we're not the same country, and it's not something that happened accidentally.

00:30:36.000 It was a very deliberate subversion of our culture and our history.

00:30:40.000 It happens through immigration, through mass importation, and it also happened through education, through the university system, where we have university professors, many of whom are literal terrorists who were put in prison for bombing places like the Capitol.

00:30:56.000 We have those people telling people, telling students, America is uniquely bad, the nation that ended slavery, by the way, a human institution for thousands of years.

00:31:05.000 The nation that ended that is actually bad because it tolerated it for a very small amount of time.

00:31:11.000 So, the message we have been having crammed into our heads for 50 years is that America's bad.

00:31:16.000 We're all racists.

00:31:18.000 Anyone can become American.

00:31:19.000 Let the world in. 0.97

00:31:20.000 And if you disagree with that, you're a racist xenophobe.

00:31:23.000 And then we act shocked that somehow we are in a completely transformed, radically different country where half the country hates it, half the country wants to dissolve it, and the other half is left wondering how the heck did we get here.

00:31:35.000 Yeah, I think we've stopped wondering how we got here.

00:31:38.000 I think we.

00:31:39.000 We've identified the root cause.

00:31:42.000 And it happened without anybody voting for it.

00:31:45.000 It happened with any Americans feeling like they had a say in it.

00:31:49.000 It was, you know, it was basically a heart cellar. 0.50

00:31:51.000 And then it was the 1990 Immigration Act. 0.88

00:31:54.000 And until we get serious about an immigration moratorium, to your point, let's do it for 50 years.

00:32:01.000 Let's see what happens. 0.98

00:32:02.000 Let's see if we can do a net zero.

00:32:04.000 You could still, by the way, with net zero, you still get $200,000 a year because you're leap.

00:32:08.000 And what net zero is, just for those at home who maybe don't know, is we have a net.

00:32:11.000 Outflow of Americans that go choose to live in other countries.

00:32:14.000 Rosie O'Donnell, Ellen DeGeneres, they leave and we say sayonara, don't let the door hit you.

00:32:21.000 We have about 200,000 of those every year.

00:32:23.000 So you could still replace the ones that leave.

00:32:25.000 We could bring in geniuses, okay, from Western Europe or, you know, maybe Japan.

00:32:30.000 I would take some of those, okay? 0.97

00:32:32.000 But here's the thing net zero immigration moratorium would be a huge boon to the country. 0.99

00:32:38.000 It would give time for us to get our house in order again, to get Culturally assimilated again to digest this huge meal that we have been forced to take over the last 40 or 50 years. 0.94

00:32:49.000 Now, we had two Supreme Court decisions that kind of address some of these issues.

00:32:54.000 We were wondering in part one of the show here earlier on whether you think this is a good omen for birthright citizenship or a bad omen.

00:33:03.000 Do you feel like the Roberts Court is basically saying, hey, we're going to see, look at, we're giving you some wins on immigration basically to pull the rug out from under you on birthright?

00:33:12.000 What do you think is going to happen, Sean?

00:33:14.000 I'm not expecting a favorable outcome on birthplace citizenship.

00:33:20.000 I wish it weren't so.

00:33:21.000 To me, right now, a miraculous victory would look something like the Supreme Court saying that Congress has to define what's subject to the jurisdiction of means under the 14th Amendment, which would mean that they would punt to Congress the authority to say whether aliens who just happen to be born here because their parents were here for five seconds are citizens.

00:33:44.000 That would be a legislative political decision.

00:33:46.000 I would view that.

00:33:47.000 Is a massive victory given what we're dealing with on that court.

00:33:52.000 But I don't expect that. 0.95

00:33:53.000 I'm expecting a 7 2, maybe a 6 3 decision that says if you're a Chinese communist who comes over here pregnant for the sole purpose of dropping a baby so it becomes American and can maybe one day be president, obviously that's what we fought the Civil War for. 0.91

00:34:11.000 I expect that to be the John Roberts decision. 0.94

00:34:13.000 I expect to see from John Roberts a decision that says America fought the Civil War. 0.94

00:34:19.000 So, Chinese communist birth tourists could come in and drop babies that are magically citizens and can run for president one day. 0.93

00:34:25.000 I'm very worried that is the ruling we're going to get.

00:34:28.000 But I was talking to Andrew before the show.

00:34:30.000 I would consider even that, as crazy as it sounds, an improvement over what the status quo was.

00:34:35.000 Because we've had for a century, it just treated as the unquestioned default of law that we have total birthright citizenship.

00:34:43.000 We didn't even have a ruling explicitly saying it.

00:34:47.000 Once, well, first of all, we've had an administration try it.

00:34:50.000 We needed to have that happen.

00:34:51.000 And now, even if the ruling is against us, we now have a litmus test.

00:34:55.000 Just like for decades, we were picking judges and we could basically say, will this be a judge who would help us overturn Roe v. Wade, which we eventually did? 0.61

00:35:04.000 Now we can say, are these judges that we're putting on courts, district courts, appeals courts, eventually the Supreme Court, are they someone who will help us overturn the birthright citizenship travesty? 0.88

00:35:14.000 We need to take that step to get there. 0.56

00:35:17.000 Even if we don't get there all at once now, we will be getting closer to an outcome that we need to have happen.

00:35:24.000 I just.

00:35:25.000 You're probably right.

00:35:26.000 Everybody that seems to know and follows the court closely, which I know you and Molly do at the Federalist, seems to be leaning this way.

00:35:34.000 And I just cannot, for the life of me, understand how they could rule that way.

00:35:39.000 I cannot look at the facts.

00:35:41.000 I cannot look at the debate on the Senate floor when they were drafting these, the 14th and 15th Amendments.

00:35:48.000 I cannot look at it and understand the rationale at all.

00:35:52.000 And I think that's why it's so infuriating.

00:35:54.000 I mean, when they rule on that, it will be.

00:35:59.000 I worry for the country.

00:36:00.000 I worry that a lot of people aren't going to take that very well because it's so insane.

00:36:04.000 Sean Davis from The Federalist, my friend, good to see you.

00:36:07.000 I'm glad to have you back.

00:36:09.000 You were traveling, so it's nice to have you back stateside, my friend.

00:36:12.000 Thank you, my friend.

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00:37:30.000 We have a very special guest in studio right now, and that is Benjamin or Ben Spell.

00:37:35.000 However, you want to go for it.

00:37:37.000 My mom calls me Benjamin.

00:37:38.000 My mom calls me Benjamin.

00:37:38.000 What's that?

00:37:39.000 Yeah, there you go.

00:37:40.000 Benjamin's spell. 0.96

00:37:41.000 Make sure we change that on the show.

00:37:42.000 Especially when you're in trouble.

00:37:44.000 Exactly.

00:37:45.000 Founder and CEO of Good Ranchers, one of our partners here on the show.

00:37:49.000 But I love having you in.

00:37:51.000 You had long conversations with Charlie, you and your wife, Corley, who had a really remarkable, miraculous recovery from cancer.

00:38:00.000 I mean, if you haven't seen that episode with Charlie and Ben and Corley on, you guys should go check it out.

00:38:05.000 I think it's on YouTube and Rumble.

00:38:07.000 You can find it there.

00:38:09.000 It's a tearjerker.

00:38:10.000 I will just tell you.

00:38:11.000 But you guys are great Christians.

00:38:13.000 You are great entrepreneurs and you have a love of this country and you have a love of America's ranchers and farmers.

00:38:20.000 And we are so honored.

00:38:22.000 And I mean that because you know I mean that because we've talked offline that you are standing with our show, that you partner with us.

00:38:30.000 And we want to stand with you and we want to stand with America's ranchers.

00:38:33.000 So why don't you just tell, just briefly, how you started this company?

00:38:38.000 Because I think it's a really cool story.

00:38:40.000 Yeah.

00:38:41.000 So about a decade ago, and In the 15 years leading up to that, I was in full time ministry from the time I was 19 to my mid 30s.

00:38:52.000 I was a worship pastor and grew up playing piano and guitar and grew up in a family full of pastors and a very musical family.

00:39:01.000 And so I just kind of went that route and felt called to ministry.

00:39:05.000 And somewhere around in my early 30s, God just put on my heart to not take a salary from the church.

00:39:14.000 And by that time, I was working at a really large church in Texas, like a 20,000 member church, running the whole music department.

00:39:22.000 Everything's bigger in Texas.

00:39:23.000 Everything's bigger in Texas, man.

00:39:25.000 And so.

00:39:27.000 I absolutely loved what I did, but God put on my heart to not take a salary from the church.

00:39:32.000 And so I started praying and thinking, okay, well, what does that look like?

00:39:35.000 What else could I do?

00:39:37.000 And then I started having ideas of a meat company, which made absolutely no sense because it's so out of left field.

00:39:43.000 It's very out of left field.

00:39:45.000 But it was recurring and it just kept coming back.

00:39:47.000 And I kept telling my wife, someone should do something about this.

00:39:50.000 Didn't think that someone was going to be us, but for the sake of time and the story, fast forward about a year from that.

00:39:58.000 First conversation of someone should do this.

00:40:00.000 I was getting ready for the church I was working at, and it was a Sunday morning.

00:40:04.000 We had just had our first baby boy, he was about six weeks old, and I started thinking about it again.

00:40:10.000 I heard the voice of the Lord, and He said, You do it.

00:40:13.000 And it was like a Saul Damascus Road type moment for me.

00:40:19.000 And I came out of the bathroom and I went to my wife, Coralie, and I said, I think God just told me to start a meat company, even though He said, You do it, but I just paraphrased as we do.

00:40:31.000 Thinking she was going to look at me and say, We just had a baby.

00:40:34.000 We don't have any money.

00:40:35.000 We don't know anything about meat.

00:40:37.000 We don't know anything about running a business.

00:40:40.000 But she looked back at me and said, If you heard God, then I trust you.

00:40:43.000 And a few weeks later, I was selling meat out of the back of a truck in a parking lot in Waco, Texas.

00:40:49.000 Well, that's how you started, right?

00:40:50.000 You were doing all these pop up meat shops, basically, which is a wild way to start.

00:40:57.000 And then you turned it into this huge business where you get these beautiful boxes of Meat delivered straight to your door.

00:41:06.000 And the team makes fun of me, but I'm always talking about the chicken nuggets.

00:41:10.000 He loves the nuggets.

00:41:11.000 When you've got little kids, you love chicken nuggets because it's like some nights you just need to get them fed and get them something.

00:41:16.000 And they have no seed oil, no antibiotics.

00:41:19.000 Gluten free.

00:41:20.000 Chick fil A doesn't even have no antibiotics.

00:41:22.000 And there's a lot of.

00:41:23.000 You don't want to talk about the oil there either.

00:41:25.000 No, no.

00:41:25.000 Yeah.

00:41:27.000 No, we're really proud of the quality that we're able to source and provide.

00:41:31.000 And, you know, again, I don't have an MBA, neither does my wife.

00:41:36.000 We weren't planning on being business owners, but we made the decision.

00:41:39.000 It was two things.

00:41:40.000 So we started in 2018, like I said, selling meat in parking lots.

00:41:44.000 But we learned in 2019 that there was no country of origin labeling law for beef or for pork in the U.S., and that most of what the consumer is buying, most of what's being sold in the grocery stores and being sold in the U.S., is actually coming from Mexico, South America, other countries, and with no transparency of labeling.

00:42:05.000 And when we learned that, we drew a hard line in the sand.

00:42:08.000 And said, we're only going to support American farms and ranches, we're only going to source domestically from the U.s and uh.

00:42:14.000 And so we made that shift.

00:42:17.000 Um, we made that shift in 2019, moved into 2020.

00:42:21.000 Covet happened.

00:42:22.000 We were still, you know, by that time we had like 20 trucks going around the country doing those pop-up shops.

00:42:27.000 And then we made the decision to to get online post covet and uh got online in 2021, going into 2022.

00:42:36.000 And uh, it's just, it's been, it's been amazing um, to see when we've been the fastest growing meat company The past five years in the US.

00:42:45.000 Wow.

00:42:46.000 And people ask us all the time, like, how did you do it?

00:42:50.000 And honestly, the real answer I give is it really hasn't been us.

00:42:50.000 How did you do it?

00:42:58.000 This was God's plan.

00:42:59.000 We're just the vessel that He's using.

00:43:02.000 But it's been an amazing thing to see the amount of jobs that we've been able to create across the country for Americans and the amount of farms and ranches that we're able to support through what we do at Good Rancher.

00:43:16.000 Yeah, that's kind of the way I look at it.

00:43:17.000 Not only do you provide a great product, I mean, when you get these boxes, just I just want to say they're beautiful.

00:43:23.000 The branding's beautiful.

00:43:24.000 It's packaged so well.

00:43:26.000 The meat comes like fresh and it's frozen.

00:43:29.000 And it's like, so it's a great product.

00:43:31.000 And by the way, the product has become exceptional.

00:43:35.000 Like you have improved the product over the years so, so much.

00:43:38.000 Because I remember when you were first starting out, there was, you know, you were learning the business, right?

00:43:43.000 But what the real beauty of this is not only great Christian family, patriotic family, and we just love the Smell family, but it's, You're an advocate now for America's ranchers.

00:43:43.000 It's incredible.

00:43:55.000 Yeah.

00:43:55.000 You are, you are their voice, you know, in a big way.

00:43:58.000 You are making sure that they have a place to sell their product.

00:44:02.000 And again, things that I would have never thought I would see my, my life, uh, in my life doing 10 years ago.

00:44:02.000 Sure.

00:44:02.000 Yeah.

00:44:10.000 But, uh, just last week I spoke at a national, um, cattlemen convention in South Dakota, in Rapid City, South Dakota.

00:44:17.000 And I'm like, um, but it was, it was, it was amazing.

00:44:20.000 There were hundreds of, of local, independent farmers and ranchers and, um, And, you know, good ranchers exist to connect the American family to the American farm.

00:44:31.000 And right now we're being just flooded with imported beef, flooded with imported meat.

00:44:37.000 And, can we elaborate on that?

00:44:40.000 What's driving that?

00:44:42.000 Well, there's no country of origin labeling law.

00:44:45.000 Prior to 2015, there was.

00:44:46.000 In 2015, we just quietly removed, like, the shirt you wear says what country it came from.

00:44:52.000 The plates you eat on say, you know, made in probably Taiwan or what?

00:44:57.000 Taiwan, yeah.

00:44:58.000 And, but the, Fruits, vegetables, all of that stuff has to say where it came from.

00:45:04.000 But the beef and the pork that you buy in the grocery store does not have to say where it's coming from.

00:45:11.000 That's the way there's no country of origin label.

00:45:13.000 I guess they probably just say maybe they only have to say where they packaged it, or did they even have to say that?

00:45:17.000 Yeah, it just, whatever USDA plant it gets packaged in, it gets a USDA seal, and most people just assume, oh, this must be local, or this must be coming from here.

00:45:31.000 It's going to be Tyson or whatever, and they just said, we'll bring the beef to.

00:45:36.000 I know we have a restaurant in Sioux Falls, I know.

00:45:38.000 So, yeah, everyone is importing beef, packaging it, and selling it to consumers, except for the ranchers. 0.80

00:45:44.000 And we're going to take that up with USDA sec Brooke Rollins because that's obscene.

00:45:52.000 Good conversation is about respect, it's how we create a space where people are able to share their ideas and be heard.

00:45:59.000 Charlie knew that, Turning Point still knows that.

00:46:01.000 And TikTok has always strived to build the kind of place that thrives on respectful connection.

00:46:06.000 Where curiosity fuels connection and we can share what's on our minds and learn from each other.

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00:46:13.000 On TikTok, you can find a mechanic explaining the why behind a problem most of us wouldn't even know how to name, or a father sharing a lifetime of knowledge with his viewers, viewers who listen, discuss, and then they respond.

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00:47:39.000 So, you are an advocate for America's ranchers and farmers.

00:47:42.000 And so, explain why the price of meat shot up so high because this is actually President Trump was under some political pressure.

00:47:50.000 To basically bring in foreign meat to drop the price again.

00:47:54.000 So, what do you make of that whole thing?

00:47:56.000 I mean, again, this has been years and years in the making of not prioritizing American farms and American ranches.

00:47:56.000 Yeah.

00:48:04.000 And I mean, they really have been, they've really taken a back seat the last decade, the last 10 years.

00:48:11.000 And the problem is when you continue to squeeze and continue to squeeze, they get to the point where they just can't operate.

00:48:21.000 Farming is not a life of luxury.

00:48:24.000 I mean, they do it because they love it, they're passionate about it.

00:48:28.000 I mean, I've spent so much time with these families that I mean, they almost every time start tearing up because they're so passionate about these animals that they raise and this land that they're protecting.

00:48:41.000 The life that they have.

00:48:42.000 Yeah.

00:48:42.000 And it's just, I mean, the cost of fuel is up, the cost of feed is up, the cost of everything is up.

00:48:51.000 Like I said, almost 4 billion pounds of beef being imported with no transparency.

00:48:56.000 If the American consumer went to the grocery store and saw a ribeye that said, born, raised, and harvested in the USA, and one that said, born and raised in Mexico, processed in the USA, they would pick that.

00:49:09.000 Yes.

00:49:10.000 They would pick the American one every time.

00:49:13.000 At least a lot of us would. 0.65

00:49:15.000 A lot of us.

00:49:16.000 You know, the statistics say it's like 90 something percent.

00:49:19.000 Yeah.

00:49:20.000 I was at the North American Meat Conference just a few months ago, and that was the statistic.

00:49:25.000 American sourced is the number one thing that consumers are looking for before organic, before everything.

00:49:32.000 American sourcing is the number one thing they're looking for.

00:49:32.000 Wow.

00:49:35.000 And the problem is we don't have that transparency the way our laws sit today.

00:49:39.000 This should be changed like tomorrow.

00:49:40.000 It really should.

00:49:42.000 Why are they not?

00:49:43.000 We took a little bit of a step in the right direction.

00:49:46.000 You might have heard of the administration through RFK, and they brought back Product of USA label in January of this year.

00:49:56.000 And it's a step in the right direction, but it's not.

00:49:59.000 Even close to what fully needs to be done because what they've done is now there's a voluntary country of origin labeling.

00:50:09.000 So you can say it if you want to, but you don't have to.

00:50:14.000 So that's.

00:50:16.000 Which it doesn't fix it.

00:50:17.000 No, it doesn't fix it at all.

00:50:18.000 Well, and so you're saying that the average.

00:50:21.000 You said this in the break that the average age of a rancher in America now is 62 years old.

00:50:27.000 So not only that, but a lot of them are being forced to sell their land.

00:50:31.000 So part of the reason the price of beef.

00:50:33.000 Shot up was not only Biden inflation, the cost of everything got way more expensive.

00:50:38.000 Not for gas, feed, medication, not prioritizing and protecting our own farmers and ranchers.

00:50:43.000 Yep.

00:50:43.000 And so from this glut of foreign beef.

00:50:45.000 Yeah.

00:50:46.000 And so they're selling the land.

00:50:47.000 So the supply of American beef has dropped dramatically in the last decade.

00:50:52.000 We're at a historical low in beef in the herd sizes today.

00:50:58.000 And it takes about two years to rebuild.

00:51:01.000 So, what shrank the.

00:51:03.000 So, if the herd sizes themselves are shrinking, what's driving that?

00:51:05.000 I know.

00:51:06.000 Well, demand is up.

00:51:07.000 Demand is high because people, which that's a great thing.

00:51:11.000 Well, that's like part of the motherhouse thing.

00:51:12.000 They're funding the herd because prices are high now.

00:51:14.000 Yeah.

00:51:15.000 Well, it goes to their.

00:51:18.000 They're aging out and they're going, I can just sell off everything right now and I might as well make hay while the sun is shining because they don't see much light at the end of the tunnel.

00:51:33.000 But the problem is, when producers get to the point where they're leaving the industry, we're going to look up and we're not going to be able to raise enough food to feed our nation.

00:51:47.000 And you can look through the history of time.

00:51:50.000 Anytime another country is dependent on it, A different nation.

00:51:53.000 We saw that in COVID.

00:51:54.000 Yeah.

00:51:56.000 To feed them, you wind up enslaved.

00:51:59.000 That's exactly right. 1.00

00:52:00.000 That's what happened to Israel.

00:52:02.000 But it's also, there are geopolitical reasons, there's pride of our own country reasons, but it's also the quality of people, the backbone of this nation, the spirit of its people.

00:52:17.000 How do we continue on another 250 years if we don't have a robust ranching and farming community, the bedrock of so many?

00:52:24.000 Small communities across the country are ranchers and farmers.

00:52:27.000 They need to be protected.

00:52:28.000 The quality of our character as a people will be dramatically decreased if we do not have a huge agricultural community in this country.

00:52:39.000 And the current administration is working to help with that.

00:52:45.000 I mean, just a few months ago, they had the largest gathering of farmers and ranchers at the White House in the history of the U.S.

00:52:52.000 Yeah, Brooke Rollins, I just want to say, she is passionately defending.

00:52:57.000 America's ranchers and farmers.

00:52:58.000 I don't know why this rule hasn't been changed.

00:53:00.000 She's probably aware of it.

00:53:01.000 But we need more consumers to be aware.

00:53:05.000 You have to vote with your dollars.

00:53:06.000 You have to shop.

00:53:07.000 You have to buy American.

00:53:08.000 Yeah, you have to.

00:53:09.000 And you can't be confused by the labels.

00:53:12.000 And now, more than ever, we need to stand with our farmers, stand with our ranchers, and support our own.

00:53:19.000 This is a bit out of left field.

00:53:21.000 How big a concern is this screwworm outbreak that's happening in Texas?

00:53:25.000 Do ranchers fret about that a lot?

00:53:27.000 Absolutely.

00:53:28.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:53:30.000 And that is.

00:53:32.000 That isn't, we eradicated the screwworm 50 years ago in the U.S., but with all of the import that we've.

00:53:40.000 Is it the importing product or is it the mass migration at the southern border that brought it back?

00:53:44.000 Because they had it blocked below Panama, is what I remember it was.

00:53:47.000 And then the Darien Gap, everyone came over the Darien Gap, and now the fly is across the Darien Gap, too.

00:53:52.000 Yeah, because, again, because we're importing so much beef crossing across Mexico, because another way the law reads, again, there's so much.

00:54:03.000 There's so much convolution in all of it.

00:54:06.000 But even with the product of USA, the way that it was is beef can be raised in Mexico and then they can just cross them over the line into the US and then get product of USA on them.

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00:57:13.000 All right, I want to welcome in our next guest, Dr. Matt Spaulding.

00:57:16.000 He's the Vice President of Washington Operations at Hillsdale College.

00:57:19.000 And we are going to be discussing a very important topic that has become the topic.

00:57:24.000 Now, you'll remember.

00:57:26.000 Matt Walsh famously said, What is a woman? 0.80

00:57:29.000 And that hit the zeitgeist at just the right time.

00:57:33.000 And we need to now talk about a different question What is an American?

00:57:37.000 What is an American?

00:57:39.000 So, Dr. Spaulding, welcome back to the show.

00:57:41.000 It's good to see you.

00:57:42.000 It's good to be with you again.

00:57:43.000 How are you?

00:57:44.000 We're great.

00:57:45.000 I mean, besides the fact that the commies are taking over America's formerly greatest city.

00:57:50.000 So, the question is, What is an American?

00:57:52.000 What makes an American?

00:57:53.000 And everybody seems to have a different opinion on this.

00:57:56.000 And it's not just paperwork.

00:57:58.000 I'm sorry, I don't buy into this idea that you are a paperwork American.

00:58:03.000 That's what we have too much of. 0.99

00:58:04.000 We have birth tourist Americans, we have naturalized citizens that hate us.

00:58:10.000 So, what is an American?

00:58:11.000 What did our founders believe?

00:58:13.000 I think part of it is we've got a great opportunity here to recover this meaning.

00:58:18.000 I've done a book on the Declaration of Independence.

00:58:20.000 The Senate has now passed a resolution that's now going to the House to reaffirm the Declaration of Independence.

00:58:30.000 We're going to be on our 25th anniversary here coming up very quickly.

00:58:35.000 Here's an idea.

00:58:36.000 That document by which we first declared our independence from Great Britain announced us as a people.

00:58:45.000 And as a people, we have certain things we argue that are self evident, that are known to be true, and that's a basis upon which this regime is created.

00:58:56.000 Well, that has an implication for, indeed, I would argue, actually defines the baseline of what an American is.

00:59:03.000 The precursor question is a people.

00:59:05.000 Why are we a people?

00:59:06.000 Well, we're clearly a people because we share a history, we share a place.

00:59:10.000 We share common experiences.

00:59:12.000 We share ancestors over time in most cases.

00:59:16.000 But there's this other additive that makes us a people, which is a dedication to these principles.

00:59:21.000 That's what America makes America unique and exceptional and different, which tells me that anybody in theory, in principle, could be an American.

00:59:31.000 This was Ronald Reagan's old line you can't become French, but anyone could be an American. 0.85

00:59:37.000 But it also tells me another thing immigrants who come here must do so based on consent. 1.00

00:59:44.000 That is inconsistent with our first principles. 1.00

00:59:47.000 So, there is a niche sense of what an American is.

00:59:51.000 I think today we've been so shaped by kind of a subjective, personal view of everything that we think that citizenship is whatever you want it to be.

01:00:01.000 That's not the case.

01:00:02.000 We're a regime, a regime dedicated to these universal ideas, which are beautiful, but it's a particular regime based on the rule of law.

01:00:11.000 And those are laws to which we consent based on those universal principles.

01:00:16.000 An American is someone who instinctively loves their country, who grows up and comes to know it and knows it in certain fundamentals and basic characteristics.

01:00:26.000 But more so, as a free government, as a self governing people, a citizen is someone who comes to reflect about the importance of those things.

01:00:35.000 What are the rights that are protected?

01:00:36.000 Where do they come from?

01:00:37.000 Why are they important?

01:00:38.000 Why should we respect the rights of other people?

01:00:40.000 The rule of law, why is that important?

01:00:44.000 Those are the components that really matter and that we learn, we come to reflect about and learn them.

01:00:50.000 And form us more so than merely just a piece of paper, merely where you happen to be born, that make us into citizens as opposed, say, to subjects.

01:01:04.000 Yeah.

01:01:05.000 That's crucial, it seems to me.

01:01:07.000 I totally agree.

01:01:08.000 I was looking at John Jay, so our first Chief Justice of the USA, because this question is.

01:01:15.000 I hear what you're saying, Dr. Spalding.

01:01:17.000 I do, and I agree with all of it, just to be clear.

01:01:19.000 But this question gets really tricky when we start talking about.

01:01:26.000 The heritage of certain Americans, right?

01:01:28.000 So, this is something I saw from John Jay, first Chief Justice of the USA.

01:01:31.000 He says Providence has been pleased to give this one connected country to one united people, a people descended from the same ancestors, speaking the same language, professing the same religion, attached to the same principles of government, very similar in their manners and customs.

01:01:47.000 This country and this people seem to have been made for each other.

01:01:52.000 I can't say that now because we don't come from the same.

01:01:57.000 We don't speak the same language.

01:01:59.000 We don't profess the same religion.

01:02:02.000 These are the tricky parts of this question.

01:02:05.000 No, absolutely.

01:02:05.000 Yes.

01:02:06.000 That's from Federalist II, John Jay and Federalist II.

01:02:10.000 It's a great essay.

01:02:12.000 And I think that there are some very complicated aspects, religion being one of them, ancestors being another.

01:02:19.000 Long experience because of so much of our population, growing amounts have become here so quickly and fast, they've not had time to assimilate.

01:02:29.000 Those are deep problems, don't get me wrong. 0.95

01:02:32.000 Deeply concerned about them, and especially if they're coming from cultures that are anathema or very unfriendly to Republican government, the rule of law is very dangerous.

01:02:43.000 Having said that, the question still is how do you make people Americans?

01:02:47.000 And this is a question not only for immigrants, but for our own children and those that are raised here to become active citizens.

01:02:56.000 And we have to figure out ways to encourage formation.

01:03:01.000 We have to figure out ways.

01:03:03.000 Which is why protecting religious liberty is important.

01:03:05.000 So, we have a flourishing of substantive religion and churches.

01:03:10.000 We have to be mindful of those things which are taking root here that are in violation of our principles.

01:03:16.000 I mean, religions are cultures that demand their own laws. 1.00

01:03:21.000 Things like that are our problems. 1.00

01:03:24.000 But again, why are all those things brought together?

01:03:27.000 What is the secret sauce, if you will?

01:03:31.000 And that really is the argument found in.

01:03:33.000 In the Declaration, which is, we are not a people based on our ethnicity.

01:03:38.000 We're not a people based on our race.

01:03:41.000 We are not a people based on the fact that we can or cannot trace our lineage back to the Mayflower or to George III.

01:03:50.000 There's something different about America, which means those questions you've raised are harder.

01:03:55.000 Granted, Tocqueville recognized this in Democracy in America.

01:04:00.000 But there's something about the liberty that is created by the Declaration that comes forward in the Constitution.

01:04:07.000 There's something about the joining of local groups and the diversity in America that actually creates a certain type of citizen, an entrepreneurial citizen, a citizen that wants to create things and build things.

01:04:25.000 So I think that bulwark, if we can protect that and keep that, and then allow for the continue to protect religious liberty and all the other institutions who create the kinds of things you're referring to.

01:04:38.000 That strikes me as a good recipe for rebuilding citizenship.

01:04:44.000 I think we can't just lament the fact that things have changed, even though they have, and I do lament them.

01:04:50.000 We can't throw in the towel based on that.

01:04:51.000 The question is, how do we rebuild it?

01:04:54.000 And I think there we actually know the ingredients.

01:04:56.000 The founders laid them out for us.

01:04:58.000 Throughout our history, those ingredients were pretty clear.

01:05:01.000 And it's only a late, we've been going a different direction.

01:05:04.000 Yeah.

01:05:05.000 So, you know, it's interesting because Elon Musk tweeted yesterday and said, Anyone who hates America must be removed from America.

01:05:12.000 What would our founders say?

01:05:13.000 Have done what kind of because it strikes me as we've got people now that are going to be coming to Congress that are advocating for the eradication of Western civilization.

01:05:23.000 Right.

01:05:24.000 I don't want them in my country, if I'm just being very blunt.

01:05:27.000 What would the founders have thought about somebody like that?

01:05:30.000 Well, I can tell you one thing the founders were very clear on is that any someone who's coming to America and they discuss this in their concerns about immigration, if they're coming from a place, another country, another form of government, and advocating a different form of government, say socialism or communism. 0.62

01:05:48.000 That rules them out as for American citizenship. 0.56

01:05:51.000 So there are lines here that, if they're being crossed, are deep fundamental problems.

01:05:58.000 Of course, the additional problem there is we're teaching more of that in our schools directly, but there are lines that can't be crossed here, and we seem to be crossing them, and that's very problematic.

01:06:10.000 And I want to flag because we mentioned the J tweet, but there's other quotes from the founders.

01:06:14.000 They're all very uniform on this.

01:06:15.000 Alexander Hamilton, himself not born in America.

01:06:17.000 I believe he was born in the Caribbean.

01:06:20.000 And he says, The safety of a republic.

01:06:22.000 Depends essentially on the energy of a common national sentiment, on a uniformity of principles and habits, on the exemption of the citizens from foreign bias and prejudice, on that love of country invariably found in those closely connected with birth, education, and family.

01:06:40.000 We need to have people aligned together.

01:06:42.000 And part of this, I think, it's not even just that they have to like our form of government.

01:06:46.000 I think it's almost, he's saying we have a limit on how quickly we can bring people into this country.

01:06:52.000 We've talked about the need for maybe a. 0.98

01:06:55.000 A pause just to digest all the people who've come here.

01:06:57.000 I think those are all legitimate possibilities.

01:07:00.000 A pause, given that we're being overwhelmed by it.

01:07:03.000 But what it points to, and that's a great quote, is there's an underlying thing that has to be done.

01:07:09.000 Someone can't merely come here, pass a test, and be an American.

01:07:12.000 You have to become an American, you have to be made into a citizen.

01:07:16.000 Same for kids in our K 12 schools.

01:07:20.000 It takes time, which means the policies in the system have to allow for time and encourage that to come into being.

01:07:27.000 This, for instance, is why I think language, a common language, is an element of citizenship that's extremely important.

01:07:33.000 If we ignore all those things, we're essentially writing our own death certificate.

01:07:37.000 We will destroy ourselves as a people.

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01:08:25.000 So, okay.

01:08:26.000 Here's my suggestion.

01:08:27.000 If you're going to advocate for the eradication of Western civilization, you do not Deserve to be here. 0.99

01:08:34.000 Sayonara, denaturalize, get them out of the country. 0.97

01:08:37.000 There's apparently a law in 1954 that would support this.

01:08:40.000 It would be a national scandal.

01:08:42.000 I get it.

01:08:43.000 It would be, CNN would be apoplectic. 0.97

01:08:45.000 MS Now would be losing their mind.

01:08:47.000 Democrats would be freaking out all over the place. 1.00

01:08:49.000 Probably have some sort of rioting.

01:08:51.000 Okay.

01:08:52.000 I don't care.

01:08:53.000 We got to draw a line in the sand.

01:08:54.000 We can't even get the Save America Act passed when we have 53 votes in the Senate, which would ensure American citizens are the ones voting.

01:09:04.000 I think they should do it.

01:09:05.000 I think they should challenge every rule, custom, norm.

01:09:08.000 Just draw the line in the sand. 0.99

01:09:10.000 Say, no more of this foreign tribalism, sectarianism, these foreign ideologies.

01:09:16.000 This is America, baby.

01:09:17.000 If you don't love it, get the heck out.

01:09:18.000 That's my suggestion.

01:09:19.000 What do you think, Dr. Spalding?

01:09:21.000 Well, or as Merle Haggard famously said in one of his songs, if you don't love it, leave it.

01:09:26.000 That's right.

01:09:27.000 Exactly.

01:09:27.000 Amen.

01:09:28.000 Merle Haggard, great American. 1.00

01:09:29.000 But here's the denaturalization, I think it's a legitimate option. 0.98

01:09:34.000 We've tried to push this before. 1.00

01:09:36.000 I remember in years past this comes up.

01:09:39.000 It is a legitimate option.

01:09:41.000 What I would suggest is that we find a clear case.

01:09:46.000 For instance, someone who has gotten American citizenship and actually now is violently trying to overthrow the government.

01:09:53.000 There are those cases, they can be found.

01:09:56.000 You've got to find a test case.

01:09:57.000 You've got to win on something that can clearly win.

01:10:00.000 Do that first.

01:10:02.000 Any test cases come to mind?

01:10:04.000 I mean, some of these are. 1.00

01:10:07.000 So, for example, there's the Aber Kawas or whatever that is saying that we deserve 9 11. 1.00

01:10:12.000 She is the daughter of illegal immigrants. 1.00

01:10:15.000 Illegal.

01:10:17.000 I believe her father was deported.

01:10:19.000 She blamed the cruelty of our immigration system, and he actually apparently committed fraud.

01:10:23.000 Yeah.

01:10:24.000 Imagine that.

01:10:24.000 Here's where I went from a legal point of view.

01:10:27.000 I would find a case that's not about what someone said, something that can be argued about, and they can, oh, they didn't really mean that.

01:10:34.000 I would find a case, which there are out there, where someone is, say, collecting weapons, where someone was trying to coordinate the bombing, say, of the president at the recent fight.

01:10:45.000 Were those guys immigrants? 0.66

01:10:47.000 The ringleader was illegal. 0.71

01:10:47.000 I think there was. 0.71

01:10:49.000 Yeah.

01:10:49.000 I think it was a money dreamer.

01:10:51.000 You find a case where it's impossible to take another position and say this is open to interpretation.

01:10:58.000 So I would go to something very strong concerning that.

01:11:02.000 But here's where I thought you were going when you said to me to get ready.

01:11:07.000 There is a DC, our campus here that I'm ahead of is in Washington, DC.

01:11:13.000 The Democratic primary was just won by a socialist.

01:11:16.000 So the next mayor of the national capital is going to be a socialist.

01:11:22.000 That strikes me as opening some new and interesting.

01:11:26.000 Opportunities here.

01:11:27.000 The District of Columbia is not a state.

01:11:28.000 It is completely under the subject of the power of the Congress, but also the executive of the country has lots of authority and could actually exert national leadership and take over the city to prevent that from happening.

01:11:46.000 Then you have this question about what's going on in New York.

01:11:50.000 The Constitution in Article Section 4, Article 4, Section 4 of Article 4 is something called the Republican Guarantee Clause.

01:11:59.000 The Constitution says that every state will have a Republican form of government.

01:12:07.000 If they so lift their finger to try to change the form or advocate change in the form, I think that triggers some new authorities, which creates some very interesting options.

01:12:19.000 I think we need to do some of these things.

01:12:20.000 We need to be very aggressive about it.

01:12:22.000 But I will advocate and strenuously underscore we need to do it in a way that will create some wins and pick our cases and pick fights.

01:12:34.000 Because there's nothing worse than picking a fight and you just completely lose it and things are actually worse.

01:12:39.000 Because they'll respond on free speech.

01:12:43.000 They'll respond on perhaps even religious protections.

01:12:47.000 We've got to make this clear.

01:12:48.000 And where there's a clear threat, a clear and present danger, in an actual case of potential terrorism, that changes matters.

01:12:58.000 The president can protect the nation's capital as a matter of national security, cannot be run by a socialist.

01:13:06.000 That's a different question than say, oh, they just advocated bad ideas, which we think are at anathema.

01:13:11.000 So I just, you know, yes, I agree, but be careful at how we do it because these are various dangerous grounds and we've got to go forward in a way that will win these cases.

01:13:20.000 Yeah.

01:13:21.000 Noted, I think the caution's well placed, but I think we have to do something pretty balanced here.

01:13:27.000 That I agree with.

01:13:28.000 And we should be, I'm hoping that the right people are thinking these things through and putting these options together.

01:13:34.000 Yeah, it's time to pick a fight.

01:13:35.000 I just, I mean, you know, I'm reminded of.

01:13:38.000 Braveheart, where you know, I've come to pick a fight.

01:13:41.000 Yeah, that's what we're going to do because, like, yeah, and we've crossed.

01:13:45.000 Yeah, go ahead.

01:13:46.000 We've crossed a threshold.

01:13:47.000 This is not, this is no longer the kind of progressive liberalism, you know, arguing about whether they have values and this kind of thing.

01:13:56.000 We've crossed a threshold here.

01:13:57.000 We are now people being elected who actively advocate opposing the government, overthrowing our system of government, and other radical steps that.

01:14:09.000 I think they are different from this.

01:14:11.000 It is not just the old liberalism.

01:14:13.000 This is not even merely postmodernism.

01:14:16.000 These are not a bunch of nihilists who believe everything.

01:14:19.000 These are radical revolutionaries.

01:14:20.000 These are people who believe something and are dedicated and willing to die for it.

01:14:24.000 We've got to draw those lines and make those lines very clear because as soon as this opens the door, California, other states are going to go this way.

01:14:32.000 And pretty soon we've got much more of a problem.

01:14:36.000 And if you get to a point where you're like France or England, it's pretty hard to save that country.

01:14:42.000 And so, listen, in no particular order, we need to stop. 1.00

01:14:46.000 This legal migration invasion. 1.00

01:14:48.000 We need to stop importing cultures that hate us. 1.00

01:14:50.000 We need re migration. 1.00

01:14:52.000 We need mass deportations. 1.00

01:14:53.000 We need to redouble our efforts on all these fronts. 0.98

01:14:57.000 And by the way, I am completely behind what Charlie said that on the macro, Islam is incompatible with the United States and our form of government. 1.00

01:15:06.000 They like Sharia law. 1.00

01:15:08.000 They like conquering, it's a conquering political ideology, right? 0.96

01:15:12.000 This cannot continue on.

01:15:14.000 We have to draw a line in the sand and make bold, controversial, Decisions to save the future of this country.

01:15:20.000 If we're going to get to 250 more, we've got to start living up to the founders' ideals in these ways.

01:15:25.000 Dr. Spaulding, amazing to have you.

01:15:28.000 And I love what you said, and I take it to heart.

01:15:30.000 We've got to pick our battles wisely, but we must pick a few of them.

01:15:33.000 The future of the nation.

01:15:35.000 We need to pick them, but also we need to celebrate this country.

01:15:38.000 And I encourage everyone out there to have a great fourth and fall in love with their country again.

01:15:42.000 This is a great country, the best country in the world.

01:15:44.000 Amen.

01:15:45.000 Our glass is certainly half full.

01:15:47.000 I would agree with you there.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - June 25, 2026

Deport the Third World + What Is An American?

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