The Charlie Kirk Show - Deportation Deadlines ft. Megyn Kelly

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00:01:23.000 We have a friend of mine and someone who needs no introduction, Megan Kelly from The Megan Kelly Show.

00:01:29.000 Listen to her podcast all the time.

00:01:31.000 And now she's a guest on our program.

00:01:33.000 Megan, great to see you.

00:01:34.000 Thanks for making the time.

00:01:35.000 Great to be with you.

00:01:36.000 So, Megan, there's a lot happening right now.

00:01:38.000 And I recently went on The Bill Maher Show.

00:01:41.000 I want to get your reaction on...

00:01:44.000 Bill Maher's seeming movement to the center.

00:01:46.000 I remember you went on Real Time with Bill Maher on HBO.

00:01:50.000 You did very well.

00:01:51.000 I think you were talking about fascism or something.

00:01:53.000 This was five or six months ago, if my memory serves me correctly.

00:01:57.000 You were wonderful, as always.

00:01:59.000 He seemed a little more hostile then than he is now.

00:02:02.000 What's going on with Bill Maher, and is it a sign that more reasonable people in Hollywood or in the comedian world that were once liberal are moving our direction?

00:02:12.000 It's happening.

00:02:13.000 But as you know, it's very rare for those with the TDS to come out from under the TDS.

00:02:19.000 You know, it doesn't happen that often.

00:02:21.000 But you can kind of see it happening real time with Bill Maher.

00:02:24.000 He came on my show, I want to say, the previous spring.

00:02:27.000 I was on his show late October, right before the vote. 0.79

00:02:31.000 And he was, yes, calling Trump a fascist.

00:02:35.000 Ripping on Trump in any number of ways, which Trump watched and wanted to talk to me about the next time I saw him right before the vote.

00:02:43.000 But in the spring, just go back a little further, spring of 2024, he came on my show to promote his book.

00:02:49.000 And Bill likes me, and I like Bill, and I've gone on his show many times.

00:02:53.000 But he can't stand Trump.

00:02:55.000 So we were sitting on set, and a lot of, this is true of a lot of liberals who don't actually watch my show, they all just think I don't like Trump.

00:03:02.000 Because they just remember the fight he and I had back in 2015-16.

00:03:06.000 So for a lot of liberals, they like me and they will pull me aside and kind of whisper in my ear about how terrible Trump is.

00:03:12.000 And then when they hear me defend him, they get kind of horrified.

00:03:15.000 So Bill comes on my show and he starts saying stuff about how Democrats don't deny elections.

00:03:21.000 And I start fact-checking him on Hillary and so on.

00:03:24.000 And it dawned on him in the midst of that interview that I was a Trump supporter.

00:03:30.000 And honestly, Charlie, from that point forward, he did not even look me in the eye.

00:03:33.000 A switch flipped.

00:03:35.000 And you could tell he just moved me into a different category of like, okay, here we go, Trump cultist.

00:03:42.000 And it wasn't a great interview.

00:03:43.000 I mean, it did well because it was very spicy, but we weren't connected, and I much prefer to have a real connection with my guests as they come on, as you know.

00:03:51.000 So then he invites me on his show, and by the time we get to November, or late October, before the vote, He had changed a little, a little bit.

00:03:59.000 He was looking me in the eye, he was listening to me, but he made very clear he was voting for Kamala. 0.99

00:04:05.000 He knew she was a moron, but he totally believed she could do it more than Trump could do it. 0.99

00:04:09.000 And he said that to me on stage and then behind the stage. 1.00

00:04:12.000 And then over the past, you know, six months, five months, however long it's been, the light bulb's really going on with him.

00:04:19.000 Because he's doing all these things that you know Bill loves.

00:04:23.000 All these executive orders on DEI and the gender madness. 1.00

00:04:28.000 And Bill doesn't want an open border.

00:04:30.000 And Bill's very where we are on the gender stuff.

00:04:33.000 Totally. I don't think he can help himself.

00:04:36.000 And plus, he's a comedian.

00:04:37.000 He appreciates funny.

00:04:39.000 So once Trump starts to do things that you actually really appreciate, you can hear his humor in a new way.

00:04:45.000 You can see him in a new way.

00:04:47.000 So it's starting.

00:04:48.000 You can see he's going to be a MAGA voter in three and a half years.

00:04:51.000 And I will say this, that I think deep down he wants to find what is true.

00:04:57.000 And he's been a big critic of organized religion.

00:05:01.000 And part of my conversation with him was very focused on that.

00:05:03.000 I saw.

00:05:04.000 And it was we don't see eye to eye on that.

00:05:07.000 No, but I love listening to you on that because I always learn something.

00:05:10.000 Thank you.

00:05:11.000 Thank you.

00:05:12.000 I felt I even had more to add, but on the second part of the conversation, I'll do that with him.

00:05:16.000 But to his credit, he went after the woke stuff, I mentioned this in the discussion, as hard as he did other organized religion, because the woke stuff turned into a pseudo-counterfeit religion.

00:05:26.000 You talked about this, you saw this in your kids' schools, you saw this in the community, that it was spreading with almost evangelistic zeal, and to his great credit, and great personal cost to him, kind of losing his liberal card, he spoke out against that.

00:05:41.000 And I think that tells us a lot about somebody's character.

00:05:44.000 I think Bill Maher is fearless.

00:05:47.000 Let's not forget why he got canceled the first time when he was hosting the show Politically Incorrect.

00:05:52.000 You were still in your cradle, but it was right after 9-11.

00:05:56.000 And he said he wasn't defending the Islamic terrorists, but the question was, were they brave? 0.94

00:06:04.000 And Bill said, well, you can't say they're not brave.

00:06:07.000 I mean, it's pretty brave to drive.

00:06:09.000 Fly planes into the World Trade Center.

00:06:11.000 He in no way meant to compliment or support the Islamic terrorists.

00:06:17.000 He was just making this sort of controversial, obviously, observation on what they were and what they weren't.

00:06:25.000 Now, that is a courageous remark to make, even by Bill.

00:06:30.000 He's always called it how...

00:06:32.000 He's seen it.

00:06:33.000 And even if he gets canceled, the next show comes and he does the same thing.

00:06:37.000 And he, net-net over time, I think he's proven to himself that his audience will stay with him.

00:06:42.000 Even if he offends them, even if he's not totally lined up with them, they appreciate his honesty and truly it's overused, but his authenticity.

00:06:49.000 And that's what I love about Bill too.

00:06:51.000 He's, I mean, that to a fault, yes, but we love that about, like our side of the aisle loves that.

00:06:56.000 And one other point on the wokeness, and you mentioned me and we pulled our kids out of the schools and all that.

00:07:01.000 I was talking with your producer before the show, and we were talking about how the young people, like the 18 to 21-year-olds, are going to be the most conservative generation we've seen in decades.

00:07:10.000 And 100%, that is due in part to Charlie Kirk.

00:07:14.000 Everybody watching the show knows that.

00:07:15.000 It's one of the reasons you're sent from God.

00:07:18.000 But it's also, as much as I love to pat the right on the back, it's also because of those schools.

00:07:24.000 We should pat them on the back, too.

00:07:26.000 You know, as the mother of...

00:07:28.000 Well, two teenagers now and an 11-year-old boy.

00:07:32.000 They are so sick of sitting in Pride Month, Women's History Month, Native American Month. 0.97

00:07:39.000 I mean, my 15-year-old said, why did the gays get a whole month and the veterans only get a day?

00:07:46.000 Smart, smart young man.

00:07:48.000 Brilliant. But it's driving them.

00:07:50.000 Just the left is driving them into the arms of the right.

00:07:54.000 And look, I don't know how old your son is, but he also probably asked the question, is there any day for me or any recognition of my existence?

00:08:02.000 Or am I just the villain in every possible story, in every meta-narrative that is presented in academia? 0.85

00:08:10.000 It is that the white man is the problem.

00:08:13.000 And it is the arch villain on the top of the pyramid. 0.98

00:08:17.000 And so, so, yeah, please.

00:08:19.000 Just to remind you, in the school we pulled them from in New York, which is one of the best schools in the country, private boys school, the final straw for us was they were there was a mandatory reading circulated amongst the faculty and the position by the author, this woke leftist black professor at some no-name college that was now mandated reading. 0.54

00:08:40.000 It posited, and I'm quoting here, in every classroom where white children learn, there is a future killer cop. 0.89

00:08:51.000 Okay, goodbye. 0.96

00:08:52.000 I mean, that's child abuse. 0.90

00:08:54.000 That's what that was.

00:08:55.000 And it was the reason that we ultimately pulled the kids.

00:08:58.000 You know, a year earlier, when he had been in third grade, they had unleashed the gender madness, asking each boy how sure he was he was a boy. 0.74

00:09:04.000 Everybody in the whole third grade class, they had to raise their hand.

00:09:07.000 And on a scale of one to five, how sure are you you're a boy?

00:09:10.000 That's fine.

00:09:11.000 Not at all.

00:09:12.000 Very confused.

00:09:13.000 Most of the kids are just confused on why they're asking these questions.

00:09:16.000 So all of that, as terrible and abusive as it is, is having exactly the reverse effect of the one the left hoped for.

00:09:24.000 Yeah, and the pendulum is shifting.

00:09:26.000 And they don't seem to be adopting.

00:09:28.000 And just that's such a great example, adapting, I should say, where...

00:09:32.000 From the Pride Month, Native American Month, it's so within the fibers of our school system.

00:09:37.000 It's within the coding of all higher and lower education.

00:09:43.000 It is turning young men especially to the right in massive numbers.

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00:11:00.000 Larry David writes, quote, my dinner with Adolf.

00:11:02.000 Of course, making fun of Bill Maher's conversation with and his dinner with President Donald Trump.

00:11:09.000 Now, I can't help but think this is the guy who used to make fun of how society would over-ascribe the Nazi term too flippantly.

00:11:18.000 Remember, of course, the episode Soup Nazi in Seinfeld, or Uncle Leo, who'd say, oh, my toast is burnt.

00:11:26.000 It must be an anti-Semite. 0.65

00:11:28.000 Larry David has become the monster that he once mocked on Seinfeld.

00:11:32.000 What's going on here, Megan?

00:11:34.000 This is, I would say, extraordinary, but par for the course?

00:11:37.000 Yeah, I mean, he's got a long history, unfortunately, of doing this to people.

00:11:42.000 Alan Dershowitz has been railing for years about how Larry David and he saw each other in Martha's Vineyard, and they used to be friends, apparently more than friendly, just actual friends.

00:11:52.000 And he screamed at him.

00:11:54.000 He got in Alan's face because Alan defended Trump on the first impeachment.

00:11:58.000 I mean, Alan's a constitutional lawyer.

00:12:00.000 And he defended Bill Clinton on his impeachment.

00:12:03.000 He defends the law, irrespective of who's gotten caught up in it.

00:12:07.000 He defended O.J. Simpson, for God's sake.

00:12:09.000 But this was a bridge too far for Larry David.

00:12:12.000 And so Bill Maher, who is critical of Trump every episode he has, literally every single episode, and says very nasty things.

00:12:21.000 In fact, one of the things Trump was so happy about when I saw him after my Bill Maher appearance was...

00:12:27.000 How much I gave it to him, I got right back in his face because Bill was saying terrible things about Trump when Trump was watching it, thinking, this is very irritating.

00:12:35.000 Every night he saw that.

00:12:36.000 That's not enough for Larry David.

00:12:37.000 You have to hate him in your heart.

00:12:39.000 You have to always act like you hate him.

00:12:40.000 It must be all-encompassing.

00:12:41.000 And telegraph that he's Adolf.

00:12:43.000 Keep going.

00:12:43.000 Yes, that's exactly right.

00:12:45.000 Yes, and so, and then Larry David reportedly, you know, Cheryl Hines, RFKJ's wife, works on that show.

00:12:51.000 She played his wife and now his ex-wife on that show. 0.96

00:12:54.000 And there were rumors, this is not confirmed by me personally, but there were rumors all over the Hollywood press rags that she was getting blowback when he came out and endorsed Trump and when he first threw his hat into the political ring at all because, you know, it wasn't going to hurt Joe Biden or Kamala Harris when he was running as a Dem because that could help Trump and God forbid.

00:13:12.000 And that Cheryl had to be sure to like play it right down the middle. 1.00

00:13:14.000 Like, oh, that's just my husband.

00:13:16.000 That's not me.

00:13:16.000 Kind of having to disavow her husband because she's on Larry David's show.

00:13:21.000 These people are sick. 1.00

00:13:23.000 They're sick. 1.00

00:13:23.000 I talk about this all the time. 1.00

00:13:24.000 For 17 years, I lived on the Upper West Side of Manhattan.

00:13:27.000 I did not have a friend who was a conservative.

00:13:29.000 You know, my friends at Fox, yes.

00:13:31.000 But no one in my neighborhood or from my kids' schools.

00:13:34.000 Nobody. They were all leftists.

00:13:36.000 If you make politics the stakes of your relationship, you are going to have zero friends where I lived on the Upper West.

00:13:43.000 It was just the most convenient place to get my kids into school and for me to work at Fox. 0.85

00:13:47.000 What kind of a freak is like this?

00:13:50.000 Where... You can't privately have your own views, like in the case of Cheryl Hines, or publicly be one of Trump's chief antagonists, but have one night where you try to see his humanity.

00:14:04.000 That's all Bill Maher did.

00:14:06.000 Such a risk that Bill Maher could be co-opted, you know, that he actually could, as I said in four years, vote MAGA, that they have to start training him now.

00:14:15.000 He's got to be beaten and demonized and get the full Adolph treatment.

00:14:19.000 I totally agree, but I think Bill Maher's got a little Joe Rogan in him. 0.89

00:14:23.000 I think he's going to only go closer to team reality.

00:14:26.000 I think he's not going to be bullied.

00:14:28.000 I think the more you antagonize him, he kind of says the F you.

00:14:32.000 I get that kind of energy from him.

00:14:34.000 Very similarly, where they're going to push him more into our arms.

00:14:38.000 Let's play.

00:14:39.000 This was Larry David's creation.

00:14:41.000 He used to make fun of the flippant use of Nazi this and Nazi that.

00:14:45.000 Play cut 215.

00:14:46.000 Medium turkey chili.

00:14:52.000 Medium crab bisque.

00:14:57.000 You didn't get any bread.

00:15:05.000 Just forget it.

00:15:06.000 Let it go.

00:15:06.000 Excuse me.

00:15:10.000 I think you forgot my bread.

00:15:12.000 Bread, $2 extra.

00:15:13.000 $2?

00:15:15.000 Everyone in front of me got free bread.

00:15:17.000 You want bread?

00:15:18.000 Yes, please.

00:15:19.000 Three dollars!

00:15:21.000 What? No soup for you!

00:15:26.000 And, of course, it was a comical look at the soup Nazi. 0.92

00:15:30.000 And this was the idea that you don't call everyone Adolf, you don't call everyone Hitler, you shouldn't throw.

00:15:34.000 That was kind of the undercurrent that Larry was getting at.

00:15:37.000 But this op-ed, I'm reading it, Megan.

00:15:39.000 My dinner with Adolf. 0.99

00:15:41.000 And the New York Times ran this trash. 0.99

00:15:44.000 45 seconds. 0.99

00:15:45.000 Comment on that.

00:15:46.000 This is like a screed that you would find on the deep bowels of Discord or Reddit.

00:15:50.000 I mean, to his credit, he's sticking with the message that the Democrats were peddling before the election.

00:15:56.000 He's just the only one, right?

00:15:58.000 Barack Obama tried to tell us this.

00:15:59.000 Kamala Harris told us this.

00:16:01.000 All these Dems.

00:16:02.000 Michelle Obama.

00:16:03.000 At least she didn't show up to the Trump inauguration. 1.00

00:16:07.000 She stuck by her original accusation, too.

00:16:08.000 They all told us he was Hitler.

00:16:10.000 And then they're out there glad-handing with him, showing us that it was all bull.

00:16:15.000 None of them believed it.

00:16:17.000 And Larry David believes it.

00:16:18.000 He's actually sticking by it.

00:16:19.000 I have people I know from NBC who would say to me back then, it defines your entire character, whether you stood up to Trump or not.

00:16:27.000 He's an existential threat to the country.

00:16:30.000 He is a Hitler-esque character. 0.67

00:16:32.000 And your whole character is defined by whether you're for or against.

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00:17:38.000 So Megan, I want to pick your legal mind here and also your media public relations expertise. 0.99

00:17:44.000 I got to be honest.

00:17:45.000 I predicted incorrectly.

00:17:46.000 I thought that smart Democrats would look at the case of Abrego Garcia.

00:17:50.000 This one is not exactly the one to go all in on.

00:17:53.000 You know, the guy with the MS-13 knuckle tattoos, allegedly.

00:17:56.000 The wife beater. 0.95

00:17:57.000 And let's just say, not exactly a Boy Scout record.

00:18:01.000 Democrats have now, too, we know of, have flown to this foreign country, El Salvador, to try to petition for the release of a foreign citizen.

00:18:08.000 I want everyone to understand that they are advocating for a foreigner to come back to America. 0.97

00:18:13.000 There's actually five or six Democrats that have now visited.

00:18:15.000 I only was aware of two, but I guess it's five or six my team tells me.

00:18:19.000 Megan, what's going on here?

00:18:21.000 You know, if they were really looking for a poster boy to support, one that would work politically, why haven't we heard more about the gay hairdresser?

00:18:29.000 Right? We heard so much about, like, look, there's a gay hairdresser just cutting hair and minding his own business, and they shipped him off to this prison in El Salvador.

00:18:37.000 Weird how they haven't gone back to him.

00:18:39.000 Weird how they decided to cash in all their chips on an MS-13 gang member.

00:18:44.000 Something tells me something's off with the gay hairdresser story, too, because this appears to be the best they could find. 1.00

00:18:49.000 Let me just make something clear.

00:18:51.000 If the Trump administration had sent this guy to Colombia, to North Korea, there would be zero problems.

00:19:00.000 He already had a notice of removal.

00:19:03.000 He already had due process, that to which he's entitled before we deport him.

00:19:08.000 It happened in 2019.

00:19:09.000 He went before an immigration court, and then he went before an appellate immigration court.

00:19:13.000 And they both said, you're out of here.

00:19:14.000 We've seen enough.

00:19:15.000 They discussed the gang ties because they were trying to figure out whether he should be held on bond while they tried to figure out what to do with him.

00:19:21.000 And they said, he's an MS-13 gang member.

00:19:24.000 We're going to hold him.

00:19:25.000 He should not be roaming while we try to determine this.

00:19:28.000 But they decided, you need to go home, sir.

00:19:29.000 Get out.

00:19:30.000 He said, oh, no, not home.

00:19:31.000 Not home. 0.67

00:19:32.000 It's dangerous for me there because this other gang wants to kill me.

00:19:36.000 So he said, okay, you don't have to go back to El Salvador, but you do need to get out. 0.95

00:19:39.000 And at that point, it was up to him to either get out or take his chances that he would be plucked out at any moment by any president's ICE team and sent out, including back to El Salvador if just one thing happened.

00:19:55.000 If the gang that was out to get him, which was a different gang other than MS-13, if that threat were eliminated.

00:20:01.000 And that threat has been eliminated under this new president there, Bukele. 0.89

00:20:05.000 All these gangs have been eliminated.

00:20:07.000 Okay, at worst, what the Trump administration did here, at worst, in the Democrats' argument, was he didn't have a judge say, okay, that gang is no longer around.

00:20:17.000 Gavel clicked, get out.

00:20:18.000 That's literally all this guy would be entitled to.

00:20:21.000 That's it.

00:20:21.000 But it's so much worse than that.

00:20:23.000 All right, so yes, and I agree, this is a terrible, terrible political thing for the Democrats. 1.00

00:20:26.000 They're so dumb. 1.00

00:20:28.000 Wife abuser and MS-13 gang member. 1.00

00:20:31.000 They never tell you he was caught with two other MS-13 gang members.

00:20:33.000 I mean, I'm not like a gang expert, but all the...

00:20:36.000 Gang experts I read about online tell you, MS-13, it doesn't hang around with the Charlie Kirks of the world. 0.62

00:20:43.000 If you wanted to go up around the street corner, Charlie, and just, like, shoot the, you know, no.

00:20:46.000 It would be a no. 0.92

00:20:47.000 You'd have to prove it.

00:20:48.000 He was just wearing a Chicago Bulls sweatshirt.

00:20:51.000 That's it.

00:20:51.000 Like, that was just totally out of context.

00:20:54.000 Yeah, he was wearing MS-13 gang colors as they all do.

00:20:57.000 They wear those same red and black colors.

00:20:59.000 Chicago Bulls sweatshirt in this context is very common and had the tats and was with two MS-13 members and had testimony by a confidential informant saying he was MS-13 and this is the rank he held and this is the nickname, all of which is irrelevant.

00:21:14.000 We don't care.

00:21:15.000 We don't have to prove he's a gang member at all.

00:21:16.000 It's totally irrelevant.

00:21:18.000 It's only relevant to the public fight over whether the Democrats should be defending this guy.

00:21:22.000 But he's gone.

00:21:23.000 He's already been adjudicated, removable.

00:21:26.000 The only problem is we didn't remove him.

00:21:28.000 And then when we did, we technically weren't supposed to remove him to El Salvador without saying that that threatening gang, which, by the way, sounded like total bull anyway, but let's just pretend it was real, had gone away.

00:21:40.000 So that's him.

00:21:42.000 Here's the bigger problem.

00:21:43.000 We had...

00:21:44.000 10 million illegals in this country, according to CPB, back in 2020.

00:21:51.000 And they always underestimated a little.

00:21:53.000 But according to CPB, we had over 8 million come in under Trump.

00:21:56.000 Sorry, under Biden.

00:21:57.000 Not under Trump.

00:21:58.000 Under Biden.

00:21:58.000 The four years of Biden.

00:21:59.000 So now we're at some 18 million, rounded up to 20, just so it's an easy number.

00:22:03.000 20 million illegals in this country.

00:22:06.000 We just saw the latest numbers on the Harry Anton data drop, analyzing all the polls.

00:22:10.000 56% of Americans.

00:22:11.000 This is cross parties. 0.89

00:22:13.000 Want all illegals gone. 1.00

00:22:15.000 All. Not some.

00:22:16.000 Not just the most dangerous.

00:22:17.000 All. We've got about 500,000 who committed additional crimes when they were here.

00:22:21.000 So Tom Holman has said, we're starting with the worst first.

00:22:24.000 Those 500,000 are our number one priority.

00:22:27.000 Everyone can agree on those.

00:22:29.000 And yet, what have we seen from day one?

00:22:32.000 Obstruction, lawfare, PR wars by these Dems trying to stop even just the 500,000.

00:22:39.000 And by the way, he's only on like...

00:22:41.000 22,000 to 25,000.

00:22:43.000 Trump is.

00:22:44.000 He's only gotten about 22,000 of them out so far.

00:22:47.000 Tom Holman.

00:22:47.000 And he's doing his level best.

00:22:48.000 But he's being fought by sanctuary city mayors, by the ACLU, by woke leftist court judges.

00:22:54.000 He doesn't have enough money.

00:22:56.000 He's begging for more money so that we can house them.

00:22:58.000 Because he's running out of jail space to put the ones he has caught.

00:23:01.000 So he's been hampered and biting with his hand tied behind his back from the start.

00:23:05.000 But they're going truly for worst of the worst.

00:23:08.000 We're doing criminal gang members from MS-13 and Trenda Aragua.

00:23:13.000 And the ACLU is pretending like Joe Biden's daughter, Ashley, just got deported on each one of these.

00:23:21.000 So it's a massive war that Trump has taken on here.

00:23:25.000 And, you know, it goes without saying, but...

00:23:28.000 Every single one of these guys came into this country, and many committed additional crimes without any of us getting due process. 1.00

00:23:34.000 Lake and Riley had no due process.

00:23:36.000 Jocelyn Nungaro, a 12-year-old girl, killed at the border in Texas by Trenda Araguan members.

00:23:40.000 No due process for her. 1.00

00:23:41.000 No one even asked a single question about whether she could go on living.

00:23:44.000 But these guys get all the due process in the world, and each one gets his own ACLU district court fight, appeals court fight, Supreme Court fight, and now, culminating in overnight on Friday, the Supreme Court halts.

00:23:57.000 All deportations under the Alien Enemies Act until further notice.

00:24:01.000 Just none.

00:24:02.000 None. So yeah, let's be clear about that.

00:24:05.000 So the Supreme Court has paused the use of the Alien Enemies Act.

00:24:09.000 Is that correct?

00:24:10.000 Yes, to deport people.

00:24:12.000 But is that going to be heard in greater length and decided upon, hopefully, this summer session?

00:24:18.000 Yes. Yes, that will be decided.

00:24:20.000 It's not yet been finally adjudicated on the merits.

00:24:22.000 But it's just yet another...

00:24:25.000 It's hampering of what Trump's trying to do.

00:24:27.000 And they appealed it from the lower court, the Circuit Court of Appeals, before it had even been fully briefed, before they even had had a ruling from that court.

00:24:35.000 They brought it up to the Supreme Court saying, we think that he's going to deport more.

00:24:39.000 We need you to weigh in immediately.

00:24:40.000 And without briefing, without anything, the Supreme Court's like, you're right.

00:24:43.000 Okay, hold everything, which was not the right thing to do.

00:24:47.000 I mean, somebody tweeted this out the other day, and I totally agree.

00:24:50.000 If you are a Trump-appointed justice or even just a so-called conservative justice on the high court, and you find yourself on the wrong side of Alito and Thomas, you've decided the case wrong.

00:25:00.000 You're doing it wrong.

00:25:01.000 Those two are the most conservative stalwarts.

00:25:03.000 The Trump justices so far haven't been that dependable.

00:25:06.000 I've got to be honest.

00:25:07.000 These are not our best.

00:25:09.000 You've got to go back further and get the most conservative.

00:25:11.000 And by the way, they're not getting any younger, Alito and Thomas, so it's somewhat disturbing.

00:25:14.000 In any event.

00:25:15.000 So he lost that fight for now.

00:25:18.000 The problem is he can use other methods, but they all clearly require a level of notice and opportunity to claim asylum, like immediate removal, expedited removal, which is what, you know, when they say, oh, Biden deported 450,000 illegals.

00:25:33.000 Biden really cared.

00:25:34.000 No, that's not what he was doing.

00:25:35.000 He was turning them away at the border.

00:25:37.000 That's the very limited border enforcement he did.

00:25:40.000 He let in over 8 million, okay?

00:25:43.000 That's a minimum.

00:25:43.000 He let in.

00:25:45.000 Some half a million got turned away at the border because they must have been, like, breathing fire to get turned around under Biden.

00:25:51.000 In any event, you can do that with expedited removal and you really don't have to provide any due process.

00:25:57.000 Unless they're claiming asylum, you don't have to give them any due process.

00:26:00.000 Well, Trump enlarged expedited removal to the whole U.S., saying, I can remove you from anywhere under this procedure, but if they claim asylum...

00:26:09.000 They get a notice.

00:26:10.000 They get a hearing.

00:26:11.000 They get the chance to plead.

00:26:12.000 Oh, poor me, poor me.

00:26:13.000 So he switched to Alien Enemies Act to try to expedite the process to get these people out of here. 0.73

00:26:18.000 The clock is ticking.

00:26:20.000 You know, he's thinking I have 100 days, maybe two years at the outset.

00:26:25.000 The House is going to come in to enact my agenda.

00:26:28.000 In this department, if we're really lucky, he has four years, but we have about 11,000 removed per month.

00:26:34.000 We are not going to get rid of even a million at this rate.

00:26:38.000 Never mind.

00:26:39.000 18 million, despite the fact that the majority of Americans want it.

00:26:43.000 So Trump is trying to find ways to put the pedal to the metal.

00:26:46.000 Use the Alien Enemies Act.

00:26:47.000 Then they can't claim asylum.

00:26:49.000 Very minimal due process, kind of, if any.

00:26:52.000 And at every turn, the ACLU, which has declared itself co-president, is shutting it down thanks to the help of these leftist judges.

00:26:59.000 Declared themselves co-president is a phenomenal way to put it.

00:27:02.000 And was it even in our founders' intent, in your belief, your legal...

00:27:07.000 That a district court judge can issue a nationwide injunction?

00:27:12.000 Shouldn't this be focused where, okay, if you want to do an injunction, have it pertain to your district or even your circuit?

00:27:18.000 Not what happens in Maryland needs to pertain all the way from Guam to Seattle to Dallas, where they can enjoin the whole nation.

00:27:26.000 All it takes is one Trump-hating judge to slow down what the people voted for.

00:27:32.000 That is not, quote-unquote, democracy, Megan.

00:27:37.000 Look, it's worked on our side, too.

00:27:38.000 That's how we shut down Title IX, Joe Biden's changes to Title IX under his presidency, and I was all for it.

00:27:44.000 Totally all for it.

00:27:45.000 But what needs to happen now as the high court, the Supreme Court, can see that this is clearly being used as a tool to stop the entire political agenda, the democratically voted for agenda, is they need to act quickly and more judiciously.

00:28:02.000 On all the cases coming up before them, not just the ones that the ACLU say are emergencies because Trenda, Aragua, and MS-13 members are about to be shipped off to El Salvador.

00:28:12.000 That'll get him out of bed.

00:28:14.000 How about some of the Trump requests to enlarge his powers or to recognize his valid powers under, for example, the Alien Enemies Act or to act more swiftly?

00:28:23.000 Those they slow roll on.

00:28:25.000 Those they want full briefing on.

00:28:26.000 Those they really want to kick around for a while.

00:28:28.000 So what the Supreme Court needs to do, I think, is issue a powerful order very soon on the merits, especially on the Alien Enemies Act.

00:28:37.000 We already have an opinion on the books.

00:28:38.000 It was passed in 1798.

00:28:41.000 On the books in the late 1940s is a Supreme Court opinion saying, this statute is barely reviewable.

00:28:50.000 This is clear that the founders didn't want judges to second-guess a president saying, we're in a war and these people have invaded us and or these people have invaded us or conducted an incursion and they need to be thrown out.

00:29:04.000 They did not think, because it's called a political question, which judges cannot decide under our Constitution, they did not think judges should be having the final say on those.

00:29:12.000 So they created very limited ways to review things done under that act.

00:29:19.000 And the sooner the Supreme Court gives a serious brushback to lower courts on the merits of that thing, the better off Trump will be.

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00:30:18.000 Timeline is very important, and the oral arguments on national injunctions is rather noteworthy.

00:30:24.000 There are so many injunctions right now, Megan, it's hard to even count.

00:30:28.000 I mean, we're talking about 100 to almost, I think, over 200 of them, one of which, which I know is a passionate topic for you, and I wanted to conclude our time talking about it, which is no men in female sports.

00:30:39.000 Still, as I go to these campuses, there are still...

00:30:43.000 Young feminists that come up to the mic that say, Charlie, I don't care if there is a man undressing next to me. 1.00

00:30:47.000 I don't care if there's a man.

00:30:49.000 It is progress.

00:30:50.000 It is equality.

00:30:52.000 Where are we in this fight, Megan?

00:30:54.000 You have done such great work, yeoman's work, pioneer work, moving public opinion away from this trans insanity. 1.00

00:31:01.000 Are we winning?

00:31:02.000 Are we making progress?

00:31:03.000 And now we see the courts have to end up mediating some of this.

00:31:07.000 Where do things stand?

00:31:08.000 We're making massive progress.

00:31:09.000 And yes, we're winning.

00:31:11.000 I won't say we have won, that it's over.

00:31:13.000 It's not over.

00:31:14.000 But we are definitely winning.

00:31:15.000 We are light years ahead of where we were even just three years ago.

00:31:18.000 You saw last week the UK's top court ruled only a woman is a woman, not a man pretending to be a woman.

00:31:24.000 Sorry. I mean, that's huge.

00:31:26.000 In the UK, they're more woke than we are.

00:31:28.000 So that was a big moment.

00:31:31.000 And by the way, hat tip to people like J.K. Rowling.

00:31:34.000 Without whom it wouldn't have happened.

00:31:35.000 You know, you do need these strong, and it's helpful, I think, if it's a woman, but strong female characters to stand up and say, no, what we're arguing over is men invading women's spaces. 1.00

00:31:48.000 The leftist pro-trans crowd would like you to forget the fact that we're arguing over men.

00:31:56.000 Men trying to argue women's spaces.

00:31:58.000 They want us to see a dress and like a Dylan Mulvaney.

00:32:02.000 Adam's apple shaving and just say, that's the same as me.

00:32:05.000 And that's not the same as me. 0.99

00:32:07.000 Just ask Riley Gaines, who had to get naked in front of a fully intact Leah Thomas, formerly Will, with his penis hanging out in her locker room while, you know, he was clearly, you look at his social media, it's very clear, go read the Daily Wire's report, that this guy's an autogynophile, meaning he gets off undressing like a woman. 0.99

00:32:24.000 It's a sexual fetish. 0.99

00:32:26.000 That is a vast majority of men to female masquerading as autogynophilia. 0.97

00:32:30.000 Please continue. 0.98

00:32:31.000 Who wants their daughter or to themselves be a part of some strange man's sexual fetish? 0.99

00:32:39.000 I don't want to be there when the guys want to be carried around like a baby in a diaper. 0.97

00:32:43.000 I don't want to be there when they want to get whipped in chains with the S&M.

00:32:46.000 I don't want to be there when they're having their autogynophilia fulfilled with hard-ons in the women's locker room when I'm trying to get ready for my swim meet or my daughter's trying to get ready for her soccer game.

00:32:57.000 It's grossly inappropriate. 0.98

00:33:01.000 Look at that guy in Canada, that shop teacher, Kayla Lemieux, with the enormous fake breasts. 1.00

00:33:05.000 He tried to claim that he grew them, that he actually has some male conditioner that forced them to grow.

00:33:11.000 And our friends up north in the evil top hat, as Michael Knowles refers to it, allowed it.

00:33:16.000 They allowed this 50-year-old to swim against 12-year-old girls and change in their locker rooms. 1.00

00:33:23.000 It's gone too far.

00:33:26.000 The girl in Massachusetts who had...

00:33:28.000 All of her teeth knocked out by a boy pretending to be a girl playing girls' field hockey.

00:33:33.000 You know the thing that never happens, according to Megan Rapinoe?

00:33:35.000 Tell it to the girl who now has no teeth. 1.00

00:33:37.000 And all of the girls on her field hockey team who had to watch it and broke down screaming in horror. 0.97

00:33:44.000 You know how much blood and bone came out of that girl's face on the field hockey field?

00:33:49.000 And they had to keep playing.

00:33:51.000 Against this guy who is taller than all of them and stronger than all of them, but said he was a girl and grew his hair a little long, so we had to pretend.

00:33:59.000 You just have to reframe the debate into actual facts, and then we win.

00:34:04.000 And I've said this before, we cannot cede the language at all.

00:34:12.000 And believe me, I started, I was saying all the preferred pronouns.

00:34:16.000 I thought it was mean not to.

00:34:17.000 I didn't want to be rude.

00:34:19.000 I couldn't imagine myself looking at somebody like a Caitlyn Jenner, who's been kind of on our side, even on these issues, and being disrespectful enough to look at Caitlyn and say, he.

00:34:29.000 Well, I can do it.

00:34:30.000 And I actually believe Caitlyn would be okay with it because he understands what we're arguing for here.

00:34:35.000 You can't win a debate about her.

00:34:39.000 Not being allowed to come into the locker room.

00:34:41.000 That she shouldn't be able to play on girls' sports. 1.00

00:34:45.000 You've already lost.

00:34:46.000 You've seeded the language at the top.

00:34:48.000 So we have to maintain our factual adherence.

00:34:52.000 And by the way, it applies to your children too.

00:34:54.000 You know, I've told all my kids, if anybody ever tries to make you say your pronouns, you just tell them you're not comfortable with that language.

00:35:01.000 You're not going to talk about yourself like that.

00:35:02.000 Period. That's right.

00:35:04.000 Don't let them suck you in or your kids in, especially at the college level, because it really is a slippery slope.

00:35:09.000 And not only do we not need to get sucked down, but we need to telegraph to everybody else.

00:35:13.000 This is dangerous. 0.91

00:35:15.000 And actually, it's really disgusting.

00:35:18.000 And I know, Charlie, the thing to say, the thing to say, the proper thing to say is, I don't care what you do in your private life.

00:35:26.000 Well, I do care.

00:35:27.000 I actually do have an issue.

00:35:28.000 Women are not a dress, they're not a costume, and I don't appreciate looking at somebody pretending they're me with 1.00

00:35:33.000 Megan, God bless you. 0.84

00:35:36.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:35:38.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:35:40.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - April 22, 2025

Deportation Deadlines ft. Megyn Kelly

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