The Charlie Kirk Show - Destroying the Regime Narrative with Darren Beattie and Miranda Devine

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00:01:20.000 Okay, I want to get into this continuing on the January 6th story with the man who knows more about the events and the complexities of what happened on that day than anybody else, Darren Beattie from Revolver.news.

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00:01:34.000 Darren, welcome back to the program.

00:01:36.000 Fantastic to be back.

00:01:37.000 Thank you.

00:01:38.000 So, Darren, what is your initial reaction?

00:01:41.000 You have front page of Revolver.news.

00:01:43.000 Tucker blows open J6 narrative with video proof.

00:01:46.000 Tell us about it.

00:01:48.000 Well, I think it's pretty phenomenal.

00:01:50.000 It's a great victory for anyone who's been trying to get the truth out in relation to January 6th.

00:01:57.000 Some of the footage that Tucker showed last night, and my understanding is there's a lot more to come.

00:02:02.000 But some of the footage was really, really amazing.

00:02:06.000 You know, the footage of Brian Sicknick, for instance, you know, people forget it now.

00:02:12.000 Brian Sicknick was the original lie, the lie that served as the prelude to the Fed surrection lie.

00:02:19.000 They're telling us that this poor guy, you know, he suffered a tragic death, but it was a death of natural causes, as we've finally, as the media finally admitted.

00:02:30.000 But originally, they were saying, here's a Capitol police officer who was bludgeoned to death by the, you know, the rabid MAGA mob.

00:02:38.000 And then when it became clear that wasn't the case, that lie was no longer tenable.

00:02:45.000 They switched to saying, oh, he was, he died as a result of bear spray.

00:02:49.000 The MAGA mob sprayed him, and that's why he died.

00:02:51.000 Well, Revolver.news did a very detailed sort of comparative image analysis showing that the theory of the case presented by the New York Times in relation to the bear spray was false and they knew it was false.

00:03:05.000 It was a lie.

00:03:05.000 And so finally, they were forced to say, okay, guys, he died of natural causes.

00:03:11.000 But that was long after the narrative idea of January 6th being a deadly insurrection, deadly referring to the death of Officer Sicknick, congealed.

00:03:22.000 And it really reinforced what I originally titled the piece.

00:03:26.000 This was the first piece Revolver ever did on January 6th, MAGA blood libel.

00:03:31.000 And that's precisely what it was.

00:03:32.000 So I was very pleased to see the footage and see Tucker revisit the issue of Brian Sicknick.

00:03:40.000 And of course, there is footage of Ray Epps.

00:03:43.000 Tucker revealed January 6th committee caught in a lie and exposed one of the many discrepancies in Ray Epps' testimony to the January 6th committee that they went out of their way to cover up.

00:03:57.000 Anybody who looks at the January 6th committee's interrogation of Epps, there's one thing that sticks out like a sore thumb, and that's Adam Kinsinger, one of the leaders of the January 6th witch hunt.

00:04:08.000 He's never met a Trump supporter.

00:04:10.000 He doesn't want to see rotting away in prison for 50 years at least.

00:04:14.000 And yet, of all people, Adam Kinsinger is bending over backwards to offer the most implausibly charitable interpretation of lie after lie after lie that Ray Epps presents to this committee.

00:04:29.000 And so that was another highlight, I think, of Tucker's segment last night: reporting on one of those lies, literally caught on camera.

00:04:38.000 I say Ray Epps is like the shaggy of the January 6th insurrection.

00:04:43.000 It wasn't me. 0.79

00:04:44.000 Whoa, they caught you on camera.

00:04:45.000 Oh, it wasn't me.

00:04:46.000 They caught you over here on this camera.

00:04:48.000 It wasn't me. 0.97

00:04:49.000 It's ridiculous.

00:04:51.000 Time after time, piece of footage after piece of footage. 0.90

00:04:56.000 The segment last night, I think, came pretty close to putting a nail in the coffin of this false and unbelievably malicious and destructive narrative presented by the regime and the regime media about January 6th.

00:05:11.000 So I want to get, we'll get micro in the next segment, Darren, because there's so much I want to go through with you that you really know the details here.

00:05:18.000 But let's start macro.

00:05:20.000 Can you talk about why this is important?

00:05:22.000 Because our lovely audience, who I adore and I'm thankful for, I'd say one out of every three notes I'm getting right now is really cynicism.

00:05:30.000 This doesn't matter.

00:05:31.000 We've already known this.

00:05:32.000 This isn't important.

00:05:33.000 I disagree with that respectfully.

00:05:35.000 I think it's actually critical, it's mission critical to crack these lies and to go after the falsehoods and to shatter their deceit.

00:05:44.000 Can you talk a little bit about that, Darren?

00:05:46.000 How the narrative then becomes policy, the narrative becomes action.

00:05:50.000 Why is this important?

00:05:52.000 Well, it's important for one central reason, and that is we have to remind ourselves what's at stake.

00:05:58.000 The whole reason that the regime is promoting this lie, this false narrative of January 6, is they're using the lie to justify the weaponization of the national security state domestically, politically, against their political enemies.

00:06:17.000 What's at stake here is so long as they have this false narrative to point to, it makes it that much easier to throw you in prison for attending the next Trump rally.

00:06:28.000 It makes it that much easier for the FBI to knock on your door for a social media post that's pro-Trump.

00:06:35.000 They say, what is this?

00:06:36.000 This looks like it's getting a little bit too close to the guy that we're helping out.

00:06:42.000 Exactly.

00:06:42.000 What's that guy?

00:06:43.000 The guy that we just did a matching deal for?

00:06:46.000 Douglas Mackey.

00:06:47.000 Douglas Mackey.

00:06:48.000 Literally facing 10 years in prison for memes mocking Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election.

00:06:59.000 Everything that they're trying to do, from in that case, trying to codify the disinformation scam into the criminal code to the January 6th Fed surrection narrative, which again, it works on multiple levels.

00:07:12.000 On one level, it's an extension of the impeachment process, never-ending iteration of the impeachment process against Trump to cripple Trump's prospects politically.

00:07:23.000 But more broadly, the purpose is to completely kneecap and neutralize the energies associated with Trump's movement, or for that matter, with any organic political movement that questions and challenges the corrupt regime in which we live.

00:07:40.000 So there's so much at stake here in this narrative, and they've spent billions of dollars in reinforcing the false narrative.

00:07:50.000 So for people to say it's not significant for the biggest and most popular cable news show in the country to spend time presenting the truth and never before seeing footage of this, I think it's a tremendous victory.

00:08:05.000 This is something that the regime really hates more than anything else.

00:08:09.000 Well, and just to defend our scorned listeners, I mean that lovingly, they have been treated terribly because they're like, they're ahead of the curve, right?

00:08:18.000 They're a year ahead.

00:08:19.000 And they must understand, though, Darren, millions of Americans are not.

00:08:24.000 Like Elon Musk in real time is basically like, wow, I didn't know any of this.

00:08:29.000 In real time, I just want our audience to know that now you have the world's richest man who is live tweeting and basically like, this is unbelievable.

00:08:38.000 I had no idea.

00:08:39.000 This is incredible.

00:08:42.000 And for those of you in the audience, like, we had known this stuff.

00:08:44.000 No, no, no, you knew this stuff.

00:08:47.000 This is earth-shattering for people on their name.

00:08:51.000 30 seconds, Darren.

00:08:52.000 Yeah.

00:08:52.000 It takes a while for Reddit to catch up.

00:08:55.000 You're at the front lines.

00:08:56.000 If you're listening to Charlie Kirk, if you're reading Revolver, the rest of the country, it takes a, there's a long time lapse.

00:09:03.000 Charlie Turk and Revolver and Elon Musk.

00:09:06.000 That's right.

00:09:07.000 So once Elon gets there, though, it's important.

00:09:09.000 We want him to get there.

00:09:10.000 But this is what's so important is that we want Elon to get there, but it takes persistence.

00:09:14.000 Darren does the research, right?

00:09:16.000 We do it on this program.

00:09:18.000 We pressure the right lawmakers.

00:09:20.000 We pressure Kevin McCarthy.

00:09:21.000 And it takes months and eventually we get to a place where finally it can then get into the zeitgeist in a packaged, convincing, persuasive way.

00:09:33.000 And I'll just say one other thing that I think is really important.

00:09:35.000 For anyone that thinks this doesn't mean anything, why would Chuck Schumer address it from the Senate floor the morning after if it was just some sort of, you know, meaningless cable television segment?

00:09:47.000 So Darren, let me put it this way.

00:09:50.000 What do you think was the most valuable piece of evidence that Tucker aired last evening?

00:09:56.000 I'm going to stop short of what you learned because you kind of knew a lot of this.

00:10:00.000 But what do you think was the most valuable thing that is now in the public arena that was not there previously?

00:10:08.000 Well, I think his choice of examples is very well thought out because it really covers all the bases narratively of what we need to understand about January 6th.

00:10:21.000 So first, he showed footage indicating and reinforcing the fact that overwhelming majority of the people, even who went into the Capitol, remember, most people didn't go in from the crowd, but of the people who went in, they were more like sightseers.

00:10:39.000 Some were even kind of in awe of the experience of being able to go into the building.

00:10:44.000 And it was just a handful of people who committed acts of vandalism.

00:10:48.000 And Tucker did call that out.

00:10:50.000 So I think the footage that reinforces the understanding that this wasn't this, you know, violent kind of display of disrespect toward the cabin.

00:11:02.000 Many people were orderly.

00:11:04.000 They were in line.

00:11:04.000 They're just kind of looking around, probably don't understand why the cops opened the doors to let them in, which is, you know, another thing that we saw.

00:11:12.000 So that's one component.

00:11:13.000 The second component, as I spoke about earlier, was showing Brian Sicknick and thereby reminding people of that first sort of the original sin of the Fed surrection lie was the lies that the media told surrounding the death of Brian Sicknick.

00:11:30.000 So I thought he covered that very well.

00:11:32.000 And then thirdly, and most controversially, but perhaps most importantly, what Revolver is known for is he showed footage of Ray Epps, which represents the aspect of the Fed surrection of federal involvement, federal instigation, federal provocation.

00:11:53.000 And so I think he covered those three bases very well in the selection of footage presented last night.

00:12:03.000 I think that's right.

00:12:04.000 So I want to play just a piece of tape here.

00:12:06.000 We've been playing this, and I think it's really important.

00:12:10.000 But let's play Cut 50, montage of Ray Epps calling for people to go into the Capitol.

00:12:15.000 Did we learn anything about Ray Epps last night?

00:12:18.000 Sort of, I think is the answer.

00:12:19.000 Let's play Cut 50.

00:12:21.000 I don't even like to say it because I'll be arrested.

00:12:23.000 Well, let's not say it.

00:12:25.000 We need to, I'll say it.

00:12:27.000 All right.

00:12:27.000 We need to go in to the Capitol.

00:12:31.000 We need to go into the Capitol.

00:12:33.000 Tomorrow.

00:12:34.000 We need to go into the Capitol.

00:12:37.000 Into the Capitol.

00:12:49.000 So Darren, you're obviously familiar with all of that.

00:12:51.000 How does Ray Epps connect with what we learned on Tucker's program?

00:12:56.000 Well, as I was saying, Epps representatively illustrates the dimension of the January 6th story, according to which there were key critical actors without whose participation this rally would not have turned into a riot.

00:13:16.000 And Ray Epps is probably the most infamous of such actors.

00:13:20.000 And I think the clip that Tucker showed exposed a contradiction between Ray Epps' stated testimony to the committee and what he was actually doing.

00:13:32.000 And that underscores, I think, a very important dimension of this, which is Ray Epps is enjoying a phenomenal amount of protection, not only on the part of the Department of Justice, but on the January 6th committee and the media.

00:13:46.000 And this level of protection for someone who was the former president of the Arizona chapter of the Oath Keepers, the demonized militia group associated with January 6th.

00:13:56.000 Really?

00:13:57.000 Only person caught on camera demanding that people go into the Capitol in advance.

00:14:02.000 The person who was there everywhere in January 6th, telling people to go to the Capitol, who's on camera whispering in someone's ear right before that initial breach occurs, whose behavior was so egregious that he was one of the first 20 people added to the FBI's most wanted list on January 6th.

00:14:22.000 And all of a sudden, this guy becomes the only January 6th participant whom Adam Kinsinger will defend, about whom the New York Times will write a fully dedicated puff piece.

00:14:35.000 This dramatic reversal simply lends itself to no innocent explanation.

00:14:41.000 And that's why I've said in the past, and I think it's remains so, that Ray Epps is one of the two smoking guns of the Fed surrection, the other one being the pipe bomb case, which I've also spoken about.

00:14:54.000 You and I have been in agreement on the pipe bomb and it has just disappeared.

00:14:59.000 I wonder if there might be something Kevin McCarthy can release on that.

00:15:03.000 I don't know if it's on Capitol Grounds.

00:15:04.000 So that would...

00:15:05.000 It's not, unfortunately.

00:15:07.000 But maybe Jim Jordan, if he staffs up his committee, might be able to do that through the weaponization of government.

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00:17:53.000 Miranda, welcome back to the program.

00:17:54.000 Congratulations on some very big stories recently.

00:17:57.000 The one that I want to start with is new emails show Dr. Fauci commissioned scientific paper in February 2020 to disprove Wuhan lab leak theory.

00:18:06.000 Miranda, this is a massive story.

00:18:08.000 We covered it yesterday briefly.

00:18:09.000 My immediate takeaway is that while COVID was growing and growing as a threat against America, Fauci was more concerned about covering up the origins of the virus than actually looking into therapeutics or best practices to save Americans' lives.

00:18:23.000 Do I understand that correctly?

00:18:25.000 That's certainly what it looks like.

00:18:27.000 And that is very sinister.

00:18:30.000 And you can see how deceptive he was with this particular paper is very telling because just a few weeks after he commissioned the paper and it was published, poo-pooing the virus, you know, lab leak theory, he stood up at the podium alongside then President Trump and told reporters about this paper, cited it as evidence that the virus did not leak from a lab,

00:18:59.000 and then sort of pretended that he was at arm's length from it, pretended that he didn't know who the authors were, but that he would make it available to journalists.

00:19:09.000 You know, this was part of a concerted effort to hose down that theory, which really was the most probable theory.

00:19:17.000 And as time goes on, more and more of the intelligence services are agreeing with that assessment.

00:19:25.000 So what was he trying to hide and why?

00:19:28.000 Well, that's the question I want to explore with you, Miranda, is the why.

00:19:31.000 We can only speculate, but based on your reporting and people you've talked to, why do you think Fauci was so focused?

00:19:38.000 And by the way, not just him, but Francis Collins pressured him to go even harder on trying to change the narrative or just the facts on where the virus came from.

00:19:49.000 Why was this such a big concern for them?

00:19:52.000 Because you have to remember that there's this Frankenstein form of research manipulating viruses that's called gain of function research.

00:20:02.000 And that had been banned by the, or there was a moratorium put on it by the Obama administration because there were a lot of scientists who were concerned that exactly what happened in Wuhan would happen, that there'd be this dangerous, man-made, man-manipulated virus would cause a pandemic.

00:20:22.000 And so the moratorium happened and Fauci and I presume his boss at the NIH, Collins, decided to get around that ban by outsourcing gain of function research elsewhere.

00:20:36.000 And they did that through a proxy, through a small, very bizarre nonprofit based in New York that did none of its own research that was run by an English, very bizarre guy called Peter Dazek.

00:20:51.000 He was very friendly with EcoHealth Alliance.

00:20:56.000 And, you know, we have photographs of Anthony Fauci with Peter Dasek.

00:21:00.000 They were very pally. 0.56

00:21:01.000 You can see lots of emails where he's sucking up to each other.

00:21:05.000 And Peter Dasek from EcoHealth Alliance was coordinating that research at the Wuhan lab.

00:21:13.000 You can see that.

00:21:14.000 And so when it went wrong, as it appears it did, and there was a leak, which led to the pandemic, of course, Anthony Fauci didn't want his fingerprints anywhere near it.

00:21:27.000 So he just, I believe, diverted eyes onto another route, which was the natural, you know, that it leaped from monkeys to pangolins or something.

00:21:39.000 So, Miranda, I want you to indulge my current theory here for a second, because you did and are, you have done and are doing currently, is a better way to say it, the best reporting on the Hunter Biden laptop.

00:21:51.000 Isn't it interesting, though, Miranda, that the playbook that was used for the Hunter Biden laptop seemed to actually have been used here, which is we get a bunch of people to write these expert-cited synthetic pieces of paper.

00:22:04.000 Oh, 50 experts say that the Hunter Biden laptop seems like Russian disinformation.

00:22:09.000 And it seems like it's the same blueprint, right?

00:22:11.000 Same playbook that was used, but now we're learning that it was actually perfected nine months earlier in February with COVID, and then it was used in October for the Hunter Biden laptop.

00:22:22.000 What are your thoughts on that?

00:22:23.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:22:24.000 It's a template.

00:22:25.000 I mean, they used it.

00:22:26.000 That's a better word for it.

00:22:27.000 Yes, that's exactly right.

00:22:29.000 They used it with the Russia collusion hoax against Donald Trump.

00:22:33.000 And I think what it is, is that in order to convince a gullible media to run your dishonest narrative, you have to give them something concrete to base a story around.

00:22:45.000 So whether that's the fake letter from the 51 former Intel officials saying the laptop is Russian disinformation, whether it's a fake scientific paper that's been commissioned by Anthony Fauci without his fingerprints on it to claim that the Wuhan lab leak theory is bogus.

00:23:03.000 Whatever it is, they need some sort of, they need the disinformation laundered through a seemingly legitimate outlet.

00:23:14.000 Yeah, that's exactly right.

00:23:15.000 And what does it say, Miranda, is just a tangent on that, that we have so many hyper-credentialed elites that are gleeful to sign their name onto shoddy documents.

00:23:29.000 I mean, this is really something, isn't it?

00:23:32.000 And they don't apologize.

00:23:33.000 They're not held accountable, but it is a psychological operation tactic where people are more likely to believe Huffington Post that says 50 experts agree that it came from a bat.

00:23:47.000 It really, what does it say about the status and health of the integrity of our elites?

00:23:52.000 Well, you're absolutely right.

00:23:54.000 It's a psychological operation.

00:23:58.000 And we're also seeing the FBI and the intelligence services seemingly involved.

00:24:04.000 But I think, you know, really, the central problem, the only way you can really could have really fixed this is to have a proper media that was skeptical about, you know, there have always been attempts, these psyop, remember during Iraq, the Iraq war, and so on.

00:24:22.000 There always, there's disinformation by the government and they launder it various ways.

00:24:27.000 You need an honest media that's, you know, in the cliche speaking truth to power, that is skeptical, that goes to other sources, that doesn't just gullibly repeat the line from the government.

00:24:39.000 I think that's where we're in a really dangerous situation.

00:24:43.000 You have, people call it corporate media, but you basically have these co-opted former respected brands in media that are now just mouthpieces for the Democratic Party or the uni party.

00:25:00.000 Yeah, they're Democrat super PACs with newspapers, and that's basically what they've become.

00:25:05.000 And I don't think it's a sustainable business model.

00:25:08.000 I hope that the coming recession treats them harshly because these companies, they are doing such damage to the integrity of our country.

00:25:16.000 I want to get to another story here that you've been covering, Miranda, which is really important.

00:25:21.000 This other one here from the New York Post footage shows that Capital Cop Brian Sicknick uninjured on January 6th.

00:25:29.000 Tell us what we've learned and why does this matter?

00:25:33.000 Well, this is part of the footage that Speaker McCarthy, Kevin McCarthy, gave to Tucker Carlson.

00:25:40.000 He ran last night.

00:25:41.000 And it shows Brian Sicknick, who has been cynically co-opted by Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden as their kind of proof of a deadly insurrection on January 6th.

00:25:52.000 It shows him walking around perfectly healthy after the violence has finished on January 6th.

00:25:59.000 He's wearing a helmet.

00:26:00.000 So the story that he was beaten to death with, you know, fire extinguishers, which the New York Times only retracted sort of weeks after they'd made that story.

00:26:14.000 And I think what it shows you is that Brian Sicknick, who was a Trump supporter, whose memory has been sullied by being used as a weapon for the Democrats, I think it just puts a little bit more truth into that story.

00:26:30.000 He died of a stroke the following day.

00:26:32.000 He was perfectly appeared to be perfectly healthy in this surveillance footage.

00:26:36.000 It just confirms what we already know and confirms the lies that were told by the Democrats.

00:26:44.000 Yeah, and it's really troubling because one of the adjectives that was used repeatedly, Miranda, is deadly insurrection, deadly insurrection.

00:26:54.000 And if they're talking about Ashley Babbitt, yeah, this was a deadly insurrection, but it wasn't deadly in the way that they were talking, you know, or mentioning.

00:27:07.000 Miranda, thank you for your great work.

00:27:08.000 Any closing thoughts on that?

00:27:10.000 Oh, no, I was just going to say that the Democrats of January 5th community kept on talking about five police officers being killed.

00:27:19.000 That is just a lie.

00:27:20.000 You know, Sicknick looks like he died.

00:27:23.000 Well, the autopsy says he dies of a stroke the next day.

00:27:26.000 And then there were a number of Capitol Police officers who committed suicide in the ensuing weeks.

00:27:33.000 So why did that happen?

00:27:35.000 And what kind of pressure was being put on them by the Biden administration that they felt that that was the only thing they could do?

00:27:45.000 It's extraordinary.

00:27:46.000 Miranda Devine, thank you so much for your wonderful work.

00:27:48.000 New York Post, check her out.

00:27:49.000 Thank you so much.

00:27:50.000 Thanks, Sean.

00:27:54.000 Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here.

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00:28:57.000 So there is a new story out of the New York Times, and I'm not really sure what to make of this.

00:29:01.000 It's possible the New York Times is actually telling the truth.

00:29:04.000 I have the New York Times right here.

00:29:06.000 I read it so you don't have to.

00:29:07.000 Every morning I'm reading the New York Times.

00:29:10.000 The paper of record.

00:29:13.000 I always get a kick out of it.

00:29:16.000 The New York Times.

00:29:18.000 All the news that's fit to print.

00:29:20.000 That's right there on the New York Times.

00:29:23.000 I get some really nasty emails.

00:29:24.000 Charlie, why do you read the New York Times?

00:29:25.000 Because I want to know what the intelligentsia is saying.

00:29:28.000 It's also the, I think it has the most circulation of any newspaper in the country.

00:29:32.000 Actually, the Wall Street Journal might have more.

00:29:33.000 But anyway, you should know what the other side is saying.

00:29:36.000 So the New York Times says new intelligence reviewed by U.S. officials suggests that a pro-Ukrainian group carried out the attack on the Nordstream pipeline last year, a step towards determining responsibility for an act of sabotage that has confounded investigators on both sides of the Atlantic for months.

00:29:56.000 U.S. officials say they have no evidence.

00:29:59.000 They had no evidence that Zelensky of Ukraine or his top lieutenants were involved in the operation or that perpetrators were acting at the direction of any Ukraine government officials.

00:30:09.000 So they say any suggestion of Ukrainian involvement, whether direct or indirect, could upset the delicate balance between Ukraine and Germany.

00:30:17.000 Yeah, that's an understatement.

00:30:19.000 And so wouldn't it be easier if they just say the CIA did this instead of saying that a pro-Ukrainian group...

00:30:25.000 Now, I don't know for sure if the CIA did it or not.

00:30:29.000 It's unclear.

00:30:30.000 But this doesn't, this, what their statement, according to the New York Times, it doesn't, what's the word I'm looking for?

00:30:38.000 It doesn't invalidate or it doesn't exonerate the CIA at all.

00:30:43.000 By the way, this was a highly sophisticated operation.

00:30:46.000 This was done with Navy divers.

00:30:50.000 This was not just some sort of ragtag army of, hey, let's go bomb a pipeline.

00:30:54.000 This was something that was done with military precision.

00:30:58.000 And let me remind you that the implications of this is significant.

00:31:09.000 Now, more than 1,000 pounds of military-grade explosives were used by perpetrators.

00:31:14.000 1,000 pounds?

00:31:16.000 And again, I am no Navy, I'm no diving expert.

00:31:19.000 I don't quite, not even close, but to get 1,000 pounds underwater exactly where you need them to go, that sounds sophisticated.

00:31:31.000 That's not exactly something that a bunch of amateurs could do, based on everything I've read and everything that I understand.

00:31:39.000 It's more than 150 feet underwater, so it's way deeper than just recreational scuba diving.

00:31:46.000 And so it definitely have to be somebody that understands not just the pressure involved in that, which is significant, but how to move product, not just product, how to move a payload at 150 feet deep, and it goes right.

00:32:01.000 What is the width of the pipeline?

00:32:03.000 50 yards, maybe?

00:32:05.000 I mean, if it's 50 yards, that would be massive.

00:32:07.000 But what would the width of the pipeline be?

00:32:09.000 Not the length, the width.

00:32:11.000 I mean, so you have to get it right on there and 1,000 pounds.

00:32:14.000 So that means that this wouldn't be done with just a ragtag crew of three or four people.

00:32:19.000 It would probably be 10, 20, 30, 40 people.

00:32:24.000 And the ignition of the bomb was on delay.

00:32:27.000 And so it was done with military precision.

00:32:30.000 And so just based on the facts and circumstances that we now know, it does certainly limit the it shortens the list of suspects.

00:32:42.000 Let's put it that way.

00:32:43.000 So remember, German Chancellor Schulz was in DC last week, and the press was all in a tizzy because they didn't hold a joint press conference.

00:32:52.000 There was no pomp and circumstance, which is the norm.

00:32:54.000 Remember, Germany is supposed to be a big ally of ours.

00:32:57.000 Well, it's because Germany is really upset at Joe Biden.

00:33:01.000 Very upset.

00:33:03.000 And then this report comes out a few days later, putting distance between Joe Biden and an act of industrial terrorism.

00:33:10.000 I don't think so.

00:33:12.000 Look, we talk about our neighbors in Europe and our friends in Europe.

00:33:16.000 Let's not fool ourselves.

00:33:18.000 NATO is Germany and the United States.

00:33:21.000 The Euro is basically a German currency that has been renamed as the Euro.

00:33:29.000 This is not some investigative New York Times report.

00:33:32.000 This is an Intel agency press release, and they are in probably massive cover-up mode.

00:33:37.000 The CIA is.

00:33:38.000 I refuse to believe that the Central Intelligence Agency and Joe Biden were at least not aware of this operation.

00:33:48.000 I refuse to believe that.

00:33:49.000 I refuse to believe that they were not aware of what was happening with bombing a pipeline.

00:33:55.000 Was Congress informed?

00:33:57.000 No.

00:33:57.000 This is an act of war by somebody.

00:34:01.000 Somebody did this.

00:34:05.000 I still think the American government was highly involved.

00:34:08.000 And the CIA, they put out their own press release.

00:34:10.000 I don't trust the CIA, and you shouldn't either.

00:34:12.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:34:14.000 Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:34:17.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

00:34:22.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - March 08, 2023

Destroying the Regime Narrative with Darren Beattie and Miranda Devine

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