The Charlie Kirk Show - Did Derek Chauvin Get a Fair Trial?

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00:00:27.000 Hey, everybody.

00:00:28.000 The verdict is in.

00:00:29.000 Guilty.

00:00:31.000 Derek Chauvin is guilty on all three counts.

00:00:35.000 And this episode, we recorded before that verdict came in.

00:00:39.000 But almost all of this episode deals with the larger question of what was influencing the jury.

00:00:45.000 What was the media coverage?

00:00:47.000 Was it fair?

00:00:48.000 Was the process actually followed?

00:00:50.000 But I want you to think about whether or not you believe Derek Chauvin had a fair trial.

00:00:57.000 Was Maxine Waters influential in the jury coming to this decision?

00:01:03.000 Should there be another trial?

00:01:06.000 Well, the judge comments on that, and we have that sound here exclusively on the Charlie Kirk show.

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00:01:34.000 Here we go.

00:01:36.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:02:05.000 That's why we are here.

00:02:08.000 There is a lot to get to today.

00:02:10.000 Actually, I'm not too far from where the center of the cultural and political conversation is happening in our country in Minneapolis right now.

00:02:20.000 And I want to get through some of this sound of what is happening with the trial of Derek Chauvin and the death of George Floyd.

00:02:29.000 I want to get to the reaction of it, but there's something that's happening here that is deeper than just this trial.

00:02:33.000 It really is a question of whether or not we are going to continue to trust our constitutional framework and with it, due process and presumption of innocence, seeking facts, not emotion, as a way to govern ourselves.

00:02:47.000 That's the deeper question at play here.

00:02:49.000 But let's just have a little bit of a recap.

00:02:51.000 So we've been watching the trial for the last two weeks, and we made a video about a month and a half ago where I went through five facts around the death of George Floyd that you probably didn't know about.

00:03:02.000 For example, that the original Hennepin County medical examiner ruled George Floyd's death, a likely drug overdose, the fact that George Floyd mentioned seven times that he could not breathe or a police officer laid any hands on him, that he actually asked to be on the ground.

00:03:17.000 These sorts of facts are very important.

00:03:19.000 And it also pushes back against the emotion behind this entire case.

00:03:26.000 The prosecution obviously disagrees with this.

00:03:29.000 The prosecutor Steve Schleicher said in his closing arguments around Derek Chauvin that he did this on purpose and it killed George Floyd.

00:03:40.000 Let's go to cut one, prosecutor Steve Schleicher, playtape.

00:03:45.000 What the defendant did was not policing.

00:03:48.000 What the defendant did was an assault.

00:03:52.000 It was gratuitous.

00:03:54.000 It was disproportionate.

00:03:55.000 And he did it on purpose.

00:03:59.000 No question.

00:04:00.000 This was not an accident.

00:04:02.000 He did not trip and fall and find himself upon George Floyd's knee and neck.

00:04:07.000 He did what he did on purpose.

00:04:12.000 And it killed George Floyd.

00:04:14.000 Let's go to cut two of prosecutor Steve Schleicher, who concludes his closing argument by saying, This case is exactly what you thought when you saw it first.

00:04:23.000 When you saw that video, it's exactly that.

00:04:25.000 You can believe your eyes.

00:04:26.000 This wasn't policing.

00:04:27.000 This was murder.

00:04:28.000 Now, he's setting the bar incredibly high here.

00:04:31.000 Now, he's being charged possibly for manslaughter and murder.

00:04:35.000 But if you look at the facts of the case and you look at some of the testimony from some of the experts that testified, they said that Derek Chaubin was completely within fair policing standards and how he acted.

00:04:48.000 Play cut two.

00:04:50.000 This case is exactly what you thought when you saw it first, when you saw that video.

00:04:56.000 It is exactly that.

00:04:57.000 You can believe your eyes.

00:04:59.000 It's exactly what you believed.

00:05:01.000 It's exactly what you saw with your eyes.

00:05:03.000 It's exactly what you knew.

00:05:07.000 It's what you felt in your gut.

00:05:11.000 It's what you now know in your heart.

00:05:16.000 This wasn't policing.

00:05:18.000 This was murder.

00:05:19.000 The defendant is guilty of all three counts.

00:05:24.000 All of them.

00:05:27.000 And there's no excuse.

00:05:32.000 Thank you.

00:05:34.000 His closing argument.

00:05:36.000 And not in addition to that, that's a really poorly constructed logical framing that he's guilty because you know what you felt because the video was so graphic.

00:05:50.000 You see, he kind of avoids the fact that there was an original autopsy that said that George Floyd was under the influence of drugs.

00:05:59.000 Instead, he says, no, the way you feel is the way that we must pursue in the sentencing.

00:06:06.000 So then, as the jury deliberates, Congresswoman Maxine Waters decides to weigh in. 0.99

00:06:13.000 Now, she's not a very smart person, but she's a very powerful person and extraordinarily angry. 0.96

00:06:18.000 The fact that this is the best that we have to offer in a representative government, I think is just a reflection of how broken our system is. 0.98

00:06:25.000 So Maxine Waters takes to the streets wearing some form of goggles and some bizarre mask, and she's just screaming at this reporter.

00:06:34.000 And she says, quote, that if they do not get guilty on all three accounts, she says, guilty, guilty, guilty, then protesters need to get more confrontational.

00:06:43.000 Playtick.

00:06:44.000 And I don't know what's going to happen to it, but I know this.

00:06:47.000 We've got to stay in the street.

00:06:49.000 And we have got to demand justice.

00:06:52.000 What happens?

00:06:53.000 What should protesters do?

00:06:55.000 Well, we've got to stay on the street and we've got to get more active.

00:07:00.000 We've got to get more confrontational.

00:07:02.000 We've got to make sure that they know that we mean business.

00:07:07.000 So there she says that we must get more confrontational and we must get into the streets. 1.00

00:07:15.000 What Maxine Waters is doing is she is holding the entire Minneapolis community hostage. 0.97

00:07:24.000 She's holding them captive. 0.57

00:07:25.000 This is a shakedown to try to strike fear into the Minneapolis business owners.

00:07:30.000 And now she is interfering directly with not just the trial and the proceedings, but the jury's decision.

00:07:40.000 Now, Derek Chauvin's lawyer, Eric Nelson, immediately pinpointed this.

00:07:44.000 And what the judge said in response is incredible.

00:07:48.000 Play cut 15.

00:07:50.000 Now that we have U.S. representatives threatening acts of Violence in relation to this specific case is mind-boggling to me, Judge.

00:08:04.000 Well, I'll give you that Congresswoman Waters may have given you something on appeal that may result in this whole trial being overturned.

00:08:12.000 But what's the state's position?

00:08:14.000 And the state did not respond.

00:08:16.000 And then Cut 16 is that Judge Peter Cahill slammed Maxine Waters for her threatening comments, calling them abhorrent and disrespectful to the rule of law.

00:08:25.000 Cut 16.

00:08:26.000 I'm aware that Congresswoman Waters was talking specifically about this trial and about the unacceptability of anything less than a murder conviction.

00:08:35.000 This goes back to what I've been saying from the beginning.

00:08:38.000 I wish elected officials would stop talking about this case, especially in a manner that is disrespectful to the rule of law and to the judicial branch and our function.

00:08:49.000 I think if they want to give their opinions, they should do so in a respectful and in a manner that is consistent with their oath to the Constitution to respect a co-equal branch of government.

00:09:00.000 Their failure to do so, I think, is abhorrent.

00:09:03.000 As John Adams famously said, facts are stubborn things, and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.

00:09:19.000 See, Maxine Waters is pushing back not just against this specific trial, she's pushing back against the constitutional framework that we have of a jury of your peers, a speedy and quick and fair trial, the presumption of innocence, the introduction of evidence.

00:09:40.000 That's what Maxine Waters is pushing back against.

00:09:42.000 And we should ask ourselves the question: why?

00:09:45.000 Well, it's because that system within it has a guarantee, a promise of fairness. 0.63

00:09:54.000 But Maxine Waters is playing into a core belief of the critical race theory.

00:10:00.000 Maxine Water is playing, Waters is playing into a belief that it does not matter what the evidence says.

00:10:09.000 It does not matter what the facts of the situation point to.

00:10:12.000 Instead, if you feel a certain way, or if you believe in this counter narrative, then that should overwhelm a situation.

00:10:27.000 I want to explore this deeper because this sort of new form of mob justice where you are going to sit down and obey and do what we are told is a fundamental attack on the promise of a constitutional republic.

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00:11:29.000 Maxine Waters is leading the charge alongside Al Sharpton and Tahanisi Coates and Robin D'Angelo to try and say that if we do not get exactly what we demand, we're going to burn it all to the ground.

00:11:44.000 Now, the NAACP CEO, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, that's actually the name of the NAACP, probably in need of a rebranding when you actually talk about the acronym.

00:11:58.000 Derek Johnson went on CBS this morning and he is comparing the death of George Floyd to the civil rights fight in the American South.

00:12:11.000 Cut 46.

00:12:12.000 He says the world is watching.

00:12:14.000 He says this is our Selma moment, Cut 46.

00:12:18.000 Get away from the fact that this is our Selma moment.

00:12:21.000 What do you mean?

00:12:21.000 You know, when you think about Selma, that was about voting reform to allow our democracy to work.

00:12:27.000 Right now, we're talking about our criminal justice system, the reform to ensure that we can restore trust and we can feel safe.

00:12:34.000 That's really important for the African American community at this moment.

00:12:38.000 So he is now making an argument that the civil rights movement that was, by the way, opposed by Southern Democrats and pushed by Republicans is somehow the same fight as a very complicated police stop with someone that was overdosing.

00:12:59.000 That's the same thing.

00:13:01.000 What a disservice to the people that actually pushed forward the civil rights movement.

00:13:06.000 It's actually incredibly insulting to Martin Luther King Jr. to say, though, those two things are even remotely the same thing.

00:13:14.000 And so they are trying and they are mobilizing the shock troops to try to make the biggest and most powerful display imaginable if they do not get a verdict that they want.

00:13:27.000 I think a more likely scenario is that Derek Chauvin will be found guilty of manslaughter and probably be sentenced to five to 10 years.

00:13:36.000 I think that is probably where the jury is going to land.

00:13:38.000 Second degree murder is a very high threshold to reach because the criminal justice system, for good reason, is supposed to work in a deliberate, intentional, methodical way that preserves your first freedoms.

00:13:55.000 And also, if there is any doubt whatsoever, the default position is that you get your freedom because that is who you are in the state of nature.

00:14:04.000 Taking someone's freedom away, putting them in a prison cell, is a big deal.

00:14:09.000 Now, intentions are hard to prove, but they're not impossible to prove.

00:14:14.000 Sometimes you're able to find text messages, emails, conversations, witness testimony.

00:14:18.000 For example, if Derek Chauvin would have turned to one of his fellow police officers and would have said, oh, I'm going to go after him and I'm going to teach him a lesson.

00:14:26.000 That would have been a testimony that would have been very powerful in saying that his intention was to do something anything less than policing.

00:14:36.000 There's been plenty of testimony that has said that Derek Chauvin acted improperly.

00:14:40.000 There's also been plenty of testimony that said that Derek Chauvin acted perfectly correctly.

00:14:45.000 The fact that there's anyone that has testified that Derek Chauvin acted correctly throws at least a little bit of a seed of doubt.

00:14:53.000 You have to understand that people like Hakeem Jeffries and Derek Johnson and Maxine Waters, they became more important last summer after these race riots.

00:15:03.000 The idea that a jury might issue a verdict and say, no, you guys actually got too angry last summer. 0.70

00:15:10.000 Maybe that BLM Incorporated should have a little bit of a de-emphasized role in the American political conversation.

00:15:15.000 This is a question of whether or not they're going to continue to have all of this attention, all of this funding, and the prominence.

00:15:23.000 That's really what's on trial here.

00:15:25.000 What's really on trial here is the racial reckoning that happened in the last year.

00:15:29.000 Was it warranted?

00:15:30.000 And the facts are pointing to no, it wasn't.

00:15:33.000 That all of this racial reckoning was actually a misrepresentation of a highly complicated moment.

00:15:39.000 Joe Biden has now weighed in on the George Floyd proceedings.

00:15:45.000 Let's hear what he has to say.

00:15:48.000 They're a good family, and they're calling for peace and tranquility, no matter what that verdict is.

00:15:56.000 I'm praying the verdict is the right verdict, which is, I think it's overwhelming in my view.

00:16:01.000 So Joe Biden says he's hoping for the right verdict.

00:16:05.000 I think he said that means it's guilty in my view.

00:16:08.000 He said that the evidence is overwhelming.

00:16:11.000 So now you are seeing a lot of people try to preempt and try to raise the standard because anything less than that will be met with widespread outrage.

00:16:22.000 Let's go to cuts.

00:16:24.000 I don't know which cut this is.

00:16:25.000 Dershowitz, we have him on here somewhere.

00:16:28.000 Who says what Maxine Waters did was no different than what the KKK used to do in the American South play tape. 0.89

00:16:35.000 Her message was clearly intended to get to the jury.

00:16:38.000 If you acquit or if you find a charge less than murder, we will burn down your buildings.

00:16:43.000 We will burn down your businesses.

00:16:45.000 We will attack you.

00:16:47.000 We will do what happened to the witness, blood on their door.

00:16:51.000 This was an attempt to intimidate the jury. 0.51

00:16:53.000 It's borrowed precisely from the Ku Klux Klan of the 1930s and 1920s when the Klan would march outside of courthouses and threaten all kinds of reprisals if the jury ever dared convict a white person or acquit a black person.

00:17:09.000 So Maxine Waters, amongst others, Hakeem Jeffries, Robin DiAngelo, Tahanisi Coates, they are beginning a preemptive strike against the jury because they're very worried.

00:17:26.000 I teased this in the previous segment, and I want to build this out further.

00:17:30.000 After the death of George Floyd, a bunch of people without talent and wisdom got a lot of power and money.

00:17:40.000 They became really important, including Maxine Waters.

00:17:44.000 An entire cottage industry was created around race baiting in America almost overnight.

00:17:49.000 Now, it existed before George Floyd, but the flow of money, the activism, the book sales, the TV interviews, they skyrocketed after the death of George Floyd, all under a guiding narrative and principle that George Floyd was targeted because of his race and he was murdered on the side of the street.

00:18:09.000 And so as this trial has proceeded and these facts have been given some airtime, all of a sudden, as I'm just talking to everyday Americans, people no longer are repeating the line or the lie from last summer that this was purely a racial incident.

00:18:26.000 In fact, people are saying, yeah, George Floyd was overdosing.

00:18:31.000 He was resisting arrest. 0.85

00:18:34.000 And this was obviously a desirable outcome, but this was not a 1920s KKK style lynching, which is what we were programmed to believe if all you watched was CNN or read the New York Times or flipped through your Instagram feed.

00:18:51.000 Lee Strobel is an amazing Christian apologist.

00:18:54.000 He wrote the book Case for Christ.

00:18:57.000 It's one of my favorite books.

00:18:59.000 And Lee Strobel argues in his book that if you are able to disprove the resurrection with it, you are able to disprove Christianity.

00:19:08.000 And I think he's generally right about that, that the heart of Christianity was not the fact that Jesus existed.

00:19:14.000 It wasn't the fact that Jesus had inspiration, inspired people, that he said things that were true.

00:19:19.000 But if you are able to prove or disprove the resurrection, Christianity just begins to fall apart.

00:19:24.000 Now, Lee Strobel was a fact-fighting editor for the Chicago Sun-Times or Tribune, and he was an atheist, and he started to investigate this.

00:19:32.000 And as he investigated it, he realized that the amount of evidence around the resurrection was so overwhelming, he himself became a Christian.

00:19:41.000 So, Lee Strobel's entire belief is that if you're able to disprove the resurrection, Christianity becomes completely debunked.

00:19:50.000 I don't think the situation here is dissimilar.

00:19:53.000 If you are able to come up with a verdict that says that George Floyd did not die because of the intentional, preconceived motivation of Derek Chauvin, then the religion of wokeism all of a sudden becomes a lot less powerful in America.

00:20:13.000 But all of a sudden, the woke industrial complex is going to have to explain that a jury of the peers are actually in on the game too, the white supremacist jury of their peers, even though there are, I believe, four black members of this jury.

00:20:30.000 So the jury is now sequestered, and we don't know the decision that they are going to move forward with.

00:20:36.000 I could see a reasonable manslaughter decision.

00:20:39.000 However, the bar is now being set that anything but life in prison, second-degree murder is not acceptable.

00:20:48.000 What if I told you that Maxine Waters actually wants race riots?

00:20:54.000 What if I told you that Maxine Waters has actually called for this before? 1.00

00:20:58.000 Cut 43, Maxine Waters has been race baiting literally before I was born.

00:21:04.000 This was 1992.

00:21:05.000 I was born in 93.

00:21:06.000 She has been in this cottage industry for quite some time.

00:21:08.000 Playtate.

00:21:10.000 There are scores of injuries and still anger and frustration and people who plan on staying on the streets and expressing their outrage and anger in any way they deem necessary.

00:21:23.000 There are those who would like for me and others and all of us to tell people to go inside, to be peaceful, that they have to accept the verdict.

00:21:33.000 I accept the responsibility of asking people not to endanger their lives.

00:21:38.000 I am not asking people not to be angry.

00:21:41.000 So she has a history of this.

00:21:43.000 And now that she has called for people to be confrontational, which she's done before, I think we have a flashback clip here of Maxine Waters in June of 2018.

00:21:53.000 Remember this CUT 23?

00:21:54.000 She says, if you see anybody from that cabinet, you get out there.

00:21:57.000 You create a groundswell.

00:21:59.000 You push back.

00:22:00.000 You tell them they are not welcome here.

00:22:01.000 Cut 23.

00:22:02.000 And if you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them and you tell them they're not welcome.

00:22:20.000 And so what's really happening here is a group of people that are getting nervous that this entire racial reconciliation moment, which by the way, is nothing more than a business strategy.

00:22:33.000 That's all this is.

00:22:35.000 It's a group of people that really do not have talent and they do not have wisdom that have gotten really rich and really powerful and really popular basically overnight because of a misinterpretation of what happened in Minneapolis.

00:22:45.000 That's basically what is at play here.

00:22:47.000 So the only way you could possibly preempt this, the only way you could possibly keep that power, that influence, and that money is to try and prep the population that no matter what the decision is, they're in on it, that we're not going to accept it, that the white supremacist system is actually influencing the jury in some way.

00:23:10.000 That if the jury does not do what we tell them to do, we are going to burn the country to the ground.

00:23:20.000 Let's go to a cut here.

00:23:21.000 Cut 38.

00:23:22.000 This is the activist media defending Maxine Waters.

00:23:25.000 This is your activist media.

00:23:27.000 I'm not sure if it's your activist meeting, but it's the activist media defending Maxine Waters, who before I play this tape, they impeached Donald Trump for allegedly inciting a crowd, which we now know is not true.

00:23:42.000 Maxine Waters has done worse than what Donald Trump, like not even the same category of what he said.

00:23:49.000 And yet they defend her.

00:23:51.000 Play tape.

00:23:52.000 Do you really think she's calling for violence?

00:23:55.000 Most people know that that's not true.

00:23:57.000 And the people who are speaking out against her are using it politically.

00:24:02.000 The judges opining about whether it was appropriate or right for elected officials to talk about a trial seemed to me itself a bit inappropriate.

00:24:07.000 Like it's a free country.

00:24:08.000 You can talk about whatever you want.

00:24:10.000 The judge lashing out at a U.S. congresswoman, even mentioning the possibility that a verdict could be overturned in the future.

00:24:16.000 I don't think that Maxine meant anything by that except to say you have to stick with it.

00:24:21.000 You know, you have to be there.

00:24:23.000 One little thing like this. 0.99

00:24:25.000 And they jump all over her. 1.00

00:24:26.000 I mean, she's one congresswoman. 0.84

00:24:29.000 It's just delicious, isn't it?

00:24:31.000 Because this is a Democrat judge who's trying to do his job.

00:24:37.000 And he sees what Maxine Waters has said.

00:24:39.000 And he said it's abhorrent, it's reprehensible, and it does not have respect to the Constitution.

00:24:46.000 Now, I'm going to give the judge a little bit of grace here.

00:24:50.000 But soon the judge is going to wake up and realize, as he's a Democrat, the Democrat Party doesn't have any respect for the Constitution.

00:24:57.000 That's what we're dealing with here.

00:24:58.000 That's what we have been dealing with here.

00:25:00.000 But now, of course, he's the enemy, right?

00:25:01.000 Don Laman and Joyce, whatever her name is, Joy Behar, whatever, and the Chris Hayes, MSNBC.

00:25:10.000 They're really angry that a judge might all of a sudden call out Maxine Waters for trying to incite terrorism in our country. 0.70

00:25:18.000 Cut 28, here's a radical black activist who wants to watch the country burn. 0.64

00:25:23.000 This is a person on television or on some sort of network.

00:25:26.000 If a Trump supporter said this, they would be arrested.

00:25:28.000 Play tape.

00:25:30.000 For the record, I support all that.

00:25:32.000 I support them looting the damn Dollar Tree. 0.58

00:25:36.000 I support the looting of what other s did they loot?

00:25:39.000 Like the advanced auto parts.

00:25:42.000 I remember last year they looted Target.

00:25:45.000 I support all that loot all that.

00:25:47.000 You know why? 1.00

00:25:48.000 Because black people and marginalized and oppressed people could loot every store in this whole country for 200 years. 1.00

00:25:57.000 It would not even come close to the debt that America owes us. 1.00

00:26:02.000 Tear all that up.

00:26:03.000 Tear it up.

00:26:05.000 Because really, that's the language.

00:26:07.000 That's the only language this country understands.

00:26:10.000 She's like Aristotle.

00:26:12.000 So profound.

00:26:13.000 She swears every other word.

00:26:16.000 She can't even get her department stores correct.

00:26:18.000 No, so that's where we're at.

00:26:19.000 So I just want to make sure that we're all clear.

00:26:22.000 If a Republican or a Trump supporting activist said, you know, if we don't get what we want, go loot, riot, burn, the FBI would visit them.

00:26:34.000 But she says that and she gets applauded.

00:26:37.000 She gets platformed.

00:26:38.000 I don't even know her name, but she has some sort of a show.

00:26:40.000 Everyone has a show now, including us. 0.88

00:26:43.000 But she has a show and she is trying to mobilize people and encourage them to loot, riot, and burn.

00:26:52.000 What's really happening here is that this is an attack on our fundamental system, our constitutional republic that has deliberative justice, that has a process to take people's freedoms away.

00:27:07.000 The left-wing activists that are now running our country, they have grown impatient with that process.

00:27:13.000 They say that piece of paper, the Constitution, we've hated that for quite some time.

00:27:18.000 We want to get rid of it.

00:27:20.000 We want to have a system where if we yell loud enough and we demand it, we pound the table, we can lock you into prison indefinitely.

00:27:30.000 Derek Chauvin has had a trial.

00:27:31.000 I don't even think it's been a fair trial, by the way, because I think the jury should have been sequestered.

00:27:35.000 I love the judge.

00:27:36.000 The judge says, yeah, the jury has been told not to watch the news.

00:27:39.000 Okay, explain to me how that exactly is happening when they have iPhones and they have friends contacting them.

00:27:44.000 I highly doubt they're not watching this.

00:27:46.000 I just highly doubt that.

00:27:48.000 However, he's had generally a fair trial.

00:27:52.000 The judge has opened the door for possibly a retrial. 0.99

00:27:55.000 But if this decision is not what Maxine Waters wants, she is going to deploy the infantry against our fellow countrymen.

00:28:07.000 A few decades ago, private citizens used to be that, private citizens.

00:28:10.000 What's changed?

00:28:11.000 The internet.

00:28:12.000 Think about everything you've browsed, searched for, watched, or tweeted.

00:28:15.000 Now imagine all of that data being crawled through, collected, and aggregated by third parties into a permanent public record.

00:28:21.000 Your record.

00:28:22.000 Having your life exposed for others to see was once something only celebrities worried about.

00:28:27.000 But in an era where everyone is online, everyone is a public figure.

00:28:30.000 To keep my data private when I go online, I always turn on ExpressVPN.

00:28:34.000 Did you know that there are hundreds of data brokers out there whose sole business is to buy and sell your data?

00:28:39.000 The worst part is they don't have to tell you who they're selling it to or get your consent.

00:28:43.000 One of the data points is your IP address.

00:28:45.000 Data harvesters use your IP address to uniquely identify you and your location.

00:28:50.000 But with ExpressVPN, my connection gets rerouted through an encrypted server and my IP address is masked.

00:28:56.000 Every time I turn on ExpressVPN, I'm given a random IP address shared by other ExpressVPN customers.

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00:29:29.000 Let's get to some more sound here.

00:29:31.000 I want to get to Cut 34, Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey.

00:29:35.000 Regardless of the decision, there's one reality that George Floyd was killed at the hands of police.

00:29:39.000 Cut 34.

00:29:40.000 Regardless of the outcome of this trial, regardless of the decision made by the jury, there is one true reality, which is that George Floyd was killed at the hands of police.

00:29:54.000 So this is their narrative that they're going to continue to push forward, regardless of the verdict.

00:29:58.000 They're nervous.

00:29:59.000 They are nervous that they do not have a closed and shut case to be able to convict Derek Chauvin to prison for the rest of his life.

00:30:10.000 I want to go to Cut 18.

00:30:12.000 Matthew Dowd, who is the chief strategist for George Bush on CNN, defending Maxine Waters for inciting anti-police violence.

00:30:23.000 Of course, he worked for George Bush.

00:30:25.000 Cut 18.

00:30:26.000 I actually just listened to Maxine Waters, and of course, we all have to be cognizant of what we say.

00:30:32.000 I don't think what she said in any way should we should criticize her for.

00:30:37.000 Of course, we should be more confrontational.

00:30:41.000 Who is this guy on CNN?

00:30:43.000 Of course, he's in CNN, works for George W. Bush.

00:30:46.000 That tells you everything you need to know.

00:30:47.000 But Tucker Carlson had something to say.

00:30:50.000 Cut 19, Tucker said, people like Maxine Waters don't care if you point out they are hypocrites.

00:30:54.000 And this is such an important point.

00:30:56.000 Tucker is pinpointing here that Maxine Waters has no moral compass at all whatsoever.

00:31:02.000 She will do what is ever in the best interest of her trying to pursue power. 0.81

00:31:06.000 Play Cut 19.

00:31:07.000 And then I want you to think about Maxine Waters. 0.91

00:31:10.000 What makes Maxine Waters different than some of the other activists? 0.68

00:31:15.000 Play tape. 0.98

00:31:16.000 People like Maxine Waters don't care if you point out that they're hypocrites.

00:31:19.000 They don't care if you catch them lying.

00:31:21.000 You're wasting your breath when you point this out.

00:31:23.000 They're not ashamed.

00:31:24.000 They never will be ashamed.

00:31:27.000 So, how do you respond to people like this?

00:31:30.000 Well, the only thing you can do is tell the truth about who they are.

00:31:33.000 Maxine Waters is someone who supports mob violence.

00:31:36.000 She always has supported.

00:31:38.000 We have known this.

00:31:39.000 Typically, these sorts of threats against our system come outside of a government, not within our government.

00:31:46.000 Also, typically, this sort of action comes from younger zealots like AOC or India Presley.

00:31:53.000 So, this is a person inside our system who typically has some respect and restrained by duty.

00:32:00.000 And someone who's very old, like Maxine Waters, which means she should be filled with wisdom and measure, has placed themselves at the forefront of calling for violence against civic institutions and citizens.

00:32:12.000 This is just another sign of the devolving standards and a breakdown of institutions and leadership.

00:32:19.000 Where you have someone who's supposed to be someone who slows things down and offers wisdom, she's leading the charge to deconstruct the West.

00:32:28.000 And she has defenders in the activist media and a singular judge, a Democrat judge of Minneapolis, can't believe what's actually happening around him.

00:32:37.000 And for those of us that follow the news on a daily basis and actually have seen the cultural and political decline of our country, we know they have hated this process for quite some time.

00:32:45.000 They are just finally getting the institutional support to be able to administer the death blow to our constitutional republic, which is a firewall against despotism and tyranny.

00:32:56.000 The only way we're going to stop it is call them out, be public about it, and never give an inch to the people like Maxine Waters.

00:33:05.000 And I want to close the loop on the Maxine Waters topic, and then I want to get to George W. Bush and do that correctly.

00:33:12.000 I'm going to go to cut 25 of Tucker Carlson on the CNN reporter asking Nancy Pelosi if Maxine Waters should apologize, cut 25. 0.51

00:33:22.000 A CNN reporter asked Nancy Pelosi today if Maxine Waters should apologize for what she said for whipping the mob into violence.

00:33:29.000 No, Pelosi said, quote, Maxine talks about confrontation in the manner of the civil rights movement.

00:33:34.000 What an insult, by the way, to the actual civil rights movement.

00:33:38.000 Then she was asked if Maxine Waters' comments incited violence.

00:33:41.000 And Pelosi said this: quote, no, absolutely not.

00:33:44.000 And Tucker is making the point that we made.

00:33:47.000 We're both making the same point.

00:33:48.000 I didn't even see this clip before this, and we're saying the same thing, which shows that it's so obvious what is happening if we're able to draw the conclusion that how dare you compare the civil rights movement to what is happening right now.

00:34:01.000 Kevin McCarthy has come out and said that Maxine Waters believes that there is value in violence.

00:34:06.000 Cut 17.

00:34:08.000 Well, I believe it rises to that level because Maxine Waters believes there's value in violence.

00:34:14.000 This is the first time she's done something like this.

00:34:16.000 Remember what she said for in the past administration for people to get in their faces, to challenge everyone.

00:34:23.000 And now what she has said has even put doubt into a jury.

00:34:27.000 You had a judge announce that it was wrong.

00:34:31.000 And so now there is growing condemnation against Maxine Waters, and there should be.

00:34:38.000 But the entire Democrat-industrial complex, alongside those people that have made a tremendous amount of money on this, are sowing the seeds of doubt if they do not get their desired position.

00:34:53.000 They do not get their desired outcome in this trial.

00:34:56.000 And the activist media, of course, has been defending Maxine Waters throughout all of this.

00:35:01.000 We played a super cut previously of that.

00:35:04.000 And Representative Hakeem Jeffries responds, of course, attacking Republicans, Cut 44, When Kevin McCarthy says he wants to censure Representative Maxine Waters, Cut 44, Representative Hakeem Jeffries' response, Cut 44.

00:35:23.000 When you think that Kevin McCarthy has the nerve to say something about anyone, when he supported the violent insurrection after the mob attacked the Capitol, threatened to assassinate Nancy Pelosi, kill other members of Congress, hang Mike Pence.

00:35:41.000 He then came back to the Capitol, voted to support the big lie, which ignited the violent insurrection, and continues to play footsie with Donald Trump.

00:35:52.000 When you've got a situation where Lauren Boebert is a mess, Matt Gates is a mess, Marjorie Taylor Greene is a mess.

00:36:02.000 Clean up your mess, Kevin.

00:36:04.000 Sit this one out.

00:36:06.000 And no acknowledgement at all whatsoever that Maxine Waters is interfering with a jury deliberation in Minneapolis.

00:36:16.000 So it's going to be a very interesting item to keep our eyes on of whether or not the country at large and the activists will accept what comes out of Minneapolis.

00:36:28.000 We all know how this is likely going to play out.

00:36:31.000 That the jury is going to do their job.

00:36:34.000 The jury is either going to be a hung jury because they can't decide.

00:36:38.000 They're going to have guilty on every account.

00:36:40.000 I think that's unlikely, or that they're going to issue a manslaughter verdict.

00:36:44.000 And then the judge will have to sentence Derek Chauvin based on that, maybe five years or 10 years.

00:36:53.000 And if that happens, the country will explode.

00:36:55.000 People will die as a result of this.

00:36:57.000 Businesses will be burned and looted.

00:37:00.000 So basically, we're in a situation that massive civil unrest is almost guaranteed at this moment.

00:37:08.000 And this is not just largely, but it's solely because of the irresponsibility of our rulers and of the leaders of our country.

00:37:20.000 It's because of the people that govern our country and have been entrusted with a responsibility to pass down this promise from one generation to the other.

00:37:33.000 Here's a question for you.

00:37:35.000 Are our leaders calling for calm or are they playing into it?

00:37:41.000 Why is it almost as if the activist media is cheering for widespread unrest?

00:37:47.000 What do they get out of that?

00:37:48.000 It's a really interesting question.

00:37:50.000 Why is it that the people in charge actually want unrest?

00:37:55.000 They want unrest because the more discord there is, the easier it is to establish a form of a dictatorship or a despot, a despotic ruler.

00:38:05.000 You see, there are several attributes to authoritarianism and tyranny.

00:38:14.000 I've been rereading 1984 and Brave New World by Aldous Huxley.

00:38:18.000 It feels as if we're living in this strange blend of both of those at the same time.

00:38:25.000 One by George Orwell, one by Alice Huxley.

00:38:29.000 And tyranny is a very tricky thing.

00:38:34.000 But in order to justify more power and more control, you need a reason.

00:38:40.000 You need to explain that, at least in the moment, or you need to stoke enough fear to give people the argument to approve that power.

00:38:54.000 So when you have widespread chaos in the streets of Minneapolis or New York or Philadelphia or Atlanta or DC, which is looming, then why wouldn't people want all of a sudden leaders say, you need to have more power?

00:39:10.000 Now, what's strange is that they actually do not, they're not going to say, give us more power to make the streets safe.

00:39:14.000 Instead, they're going to say, give us more power to unravel the system so that eventually the riots and the protests can stop.

00:39:21.000 And they're not protests, they are massive terrorist campaigns against American cities.

00:39:28.000 And so, there are a couple things that we must pinpoint when we see this looming threat of tyranny against our country and against our constitutional republic.

00:39:43.000 Tyranny operates in a pattern.

00:39:47.000 You get no privacy or solitude.

00:39:50.000 You must think the party line.

00:39:53.000 Children are not allowed to be raised by their parents.

00:39:55.000 The rules are always changing.

00:39:58.000 They're constantly always trying to remake human nature.

00:40:02.000 The party wants obedience over freedom and pleasure over virtue and outrage at anything that might not tow the party line.

00:40:11.000 Does that sound familiar?

00:40:12.000 It's what we're living through.

00:40:15.000 And so, Minneapolis is a test case of whether or not what's happening with George Floyd, the Derek Chauvin and the George Floyd trial, it's a test case of whether or not we have the shock absorbers to be able to take another hit, another inflection point.

00:40:34.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:40:35.000 If you want to get involved with Turning Point USA, go to tpusa.com.

00:40:38.000 Email us your thoughts and your questions, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:40:43.000 God bless you guys.

00:40:44.000 Speak to you soon.

The Charlie Kirk Show - April 21, 2021

Did Derek Chauvin Get a Fair Trial?

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