Charlie is back from his trip to England, and we have some new content from his time there. First, we get some of the clips from his debate with the woke students in Cambridge. Then we bring in Chip Roy for the One Big Beautiful Bill debate. Finally, President Trump holds the President of South Africa accountable in an Oval Office scene you don't want to miss.
00:01:13.000His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:01:21.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
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00:03:00.000So unfortunately, SALT has pushed the conservatives and the hardliners, budget hawks, that I'm very sympathetic to, further away from that deal.
00:03:22.000Cambridge, Oxford students, and instead of focusing on their own country, by the way, he just sent a note to me, and the decay of their own country, they're obsessed with Israel.
00:03:36.000Israel is what everybody wants to talk about at Cambridge, which is unfortunately very sad.
00:04:23.000You guys are a husk of your former self.
00:04:25.000You guys, you can laugh and sneer all you want, but the country that split the atom and invented the steam engine and eradicated slavery and brought common law to the world can do a lot better than this.
00:04:36.000And you are, your existence led to our existence, and for whatever I can do, I hope that this country, Be proud of your heritage.
00:05:12.000Get what made England and made Great Britain such a phenomenal place.
00:05:17.000I hope you get that back, and I hope that you reject the swan song of multiculturalism and get back to the fundamental truism that a strong Britain means a strong world, and therefore a strong West, and we can stand up for what is good, true, and beautiful.
00:05:33.000Man, what a breath of fresh air Charlie Kirk is to the UK.
00:05:53.000In the British Commonwealth, when it spread across the world, all of those colonies that became their own countries and got self-rule and all these things that went through British colonialism are succeeding far...
00:06:07.000Beyond those of the French colonies, the Spanish colonies, the Portuguese colonies, the Belgian colonies.
00:06:13.000The British people have a proud history, and we need to remember that.
00:06:31.000Why do you believe it was a mistake to pass anti-discrimination legislation, and what do you think would be better policy for being treated fairly unequally, which you see as an American principle?
00:06:42.000Nothing against the intent, but it was too broadly written, and it played into something called disparate impact.
00:06:47.000Disparate impact was woven within the Civil Rights Act, and disparate impact basically says if two racial groups have different outcomes, the answer must be racism.
00:07:13.000The Civil Rights Act led the way to affirmative action, which is weaponized, quote-unquote, reverse racism against Asian and white people.
00:07:20.000And the Civil Rights Act also blazed the trail for disparate impact as a legal theory, basically saying that if black Americans are doing worse in a group, it might not be because of marital differences or cultural differences or single motherhood issues.
00:07:33.000And so because of that, the Civil Rights Act was too broadly written.
00:07:37.000So the intent, it should have been a single-page or a two-page bill to say that you cannot discriminate against based on the color of somebody's skin, period, end of story.
00:07:45.000Instead, we get a multiple hundred-page bill with lots of chapters and lots of lesser-known amendments that created basically a permanent anti-racist bureaucracy within our federal government to go find racism where it doesn't exist and create it in new places where it otherwise did not exist.
00:08:03.000Oftentimes, Charlie will get asked that when he's in liberal settings.
00:08:07.000You know, what's your problem with the Civil Rights Act?
00:08:09.000Obviously, nobody has a problem with the intent of the Civil Rights Act.
00:08:12.000We believe that everybody should be treated equally under the law.
00:08:16.000However, we've talked about it as well that the Civil Rights Act was largely a second founding of America.
00:08:23.000Modern Americans probably have more reverence for the Civil Rights Act than they do for the Constitution.
00:08:29.000But in some ways, the Civil Rights Act overreached, overstretched, and created bureaucracy that allows men in women's restrooms and locker rooms.
00:09:44.000Set fire to all of the hotels full of the, I guess, the illegals.
00:09:49.000Using American parlance, for all I care, while you're at it, make the treacherous government and politicians, and take the treacherous government and politicians with them.
00:10:17.000This does not meet an American threshold for incitement, in which case you need to say a specific place and a specific person and a specific means.
00:10:28.000That would be incitement in the American context.
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00:11:59.000He's bringing the same verve that we've taken to college campuses, these islands of totalitarianism in the United States, taking it to the other side of the pond.
00:12:07.000But I just want to finish one thought here on the Lucy Connelly.
00:12:09.000Go ahead and put her picture back up, guys.
00:13:11.000And there's a lot of these other people in the UK, they're able to get, you know, like house arrest at the very least so they can be with their kid and help their husband out who's got to go to work, make a living.
00:14:39.000So I think by the time she sent the tweets, some asylum hotels were in the midst of being burnt down or their Molotovs thrown through a window.
00:14:47.000She tweeted, burn them down for all I care.
00:14:51.000You're allowed to say that in America.
00:14:53.000So the argument is, was she inciting violence or was she reacting to the images she was seeing?
00:15:13.000In America, we care about what you do, not about what you say.
00:15:16.000And then she showed contrition and she apologized.
00:15:18.000And from my understanding, when the police force showed up to her door, they asked her questions being like, you know, do you think that, do you hate immigrants?
00:15:26.000She gave, like, very satisfactory answers and they still arrested her.
00:15:30.000And I just find it so outrageous that she's going to now jail for two and a half years for a deleted social media post that she apologized for.
00:15:39.000As you guys have birthed free speech to the world, you now guys are becoming a totalitarian country.
00:15:44.000You birthed free speech to the world, you're now becoming a totalitarian country.
00:16:05.000The judge forced him to delete his documentary off of X that had tens and tens of millions of views about immigration, about Muslim immigration specifically, which is a no-no in the UK.
00:16:17.000You're not allowed to not appreciate Muslims coming into your country in the droves.
00:16:26.000It's across the pond, yes, but we need a rebirth of freedom around the Western world if we're going to stand against all of the forces that are coming against the country.
00:16:40.000This is cultural suicide throughout the West, and we need voices, strong voices from the West that know how to win, that know how to be forceful, and take it to our friends and allies and remind them of who they are.
00:18:53.000I'm looking over the screen right now.
00:18:55.000And, you know, we're continuing to try to work through the bill.
00:18:58.000We've had multiple meetings with the Speaker.
00:18:59.000But what happened was, look, there's a core problem that we have that we want to wrestle with.
00:19:04.000We believe that the money laundering scheme.
00:19:08.000That has been built into the entire Medicaid operation is inflating the cost of health care while making vulnerable people suffer while they're filling the roles with able-bodied, and we need to change that.
00:19:19.000And we've got to end the scam where you've got these provider taxes that get put in place and inflate all the prices and make it harder for you to get health care and put vulnerable people on wait lists.
00:19:30.000We think you've got to change that or you can never get the cost of health care down.
00:19:40.000But it's about changing that system so you can keep prices down and make the system work.
00:19:45.000And then in the end, that will save a lot of money over time.
00:19:47.000But right now, our primary concern is that you've got that issue and you've got a lot of front-loaded deficits with back-loaded savings.
00:19:56.000We're trying to compress that with Medicaid work requirements.
00:19:59.000We've had progress with changing some of the green new scam stuff.
00:20:03.000We've had progress, but we need to go further, and we need to fix this Medicaid stuff.
00:20:08.000We're close, but last night it kind of went off the rails.
00:20:10.000We had an agreement with the White House.
00:20:12.000We put it up, and we kind of worked it through the Speaker's office and the leadership team here, and we're not getting anywhere with it, so now we've been a little derailed.
00:20:19.000So that's what today's about, is trying to get that back on track.
00:20:22.000And Congressman, what happened around midnight?
00:20:57.000So what we'll do last night was a small tweak, okay?
00:21:01.000That means shrinking down and limiting what we call provider taxes, which are the ways that the providers game the system, inflate the prices, and they get federal government dollars to fund those and inflate the prices.
00:21:14.000We want to shrink that because it will help everybody.
00:21:16.000So we made some progress, said, okay, we all agree.
00:22:29.000Because what happens is, when you create a government program, then what happens?
00:22:35.000People then start getting jobs and make money off those programs.
00:22:39.000So then you have members of Congress going, whoa, whoa, whoa, we don't want to undo that.
00:22:43.000My view is, look, we stop these subsidies.
00:22:46.000Those people will transition to where we want them, which is to...
00:22:50.000Natural gas-fired plants, nuclear-fired plants, reliable energy, other forms of power supply.
00:22:57.000And rather than continuing to carry out putting solar panels and wind out there, which is unreliable and heavily subsidized and can't actually make the market without the subsidy.
00:23:06.000So we want to get the subsidies out of the way.
00:24:30.000You've always been very generous with your time.
00:24:33.000I mean, I genuinely believe that the base wants more cuts.
00:24:37.000The base wants more cuts, and it's putting everybody in kind of an awkward position because we want President Trump to get his bill, and we know he wants it, but we also know that actually what you guys are fighting for is in so many ways consistent with the things that we've heard him say, we've heard come out of this administration.
00:25:04.000Andy Harris, House Freedom Caucus chair, is saying that it's not going to pass right now.
00:25:09.000So why push this in this way if we know we don't have the votes yet, but we're close, and people like you are working in good faith to get this to a point where it needs to be?
00:25:18.000Well, it's always a double-edged sword here.
00:25:20.000Like, you want to use whatever you can to try to move a bill through, get it done, get it over to the Senate, because we still have to work through them, get it back.
00:25:26.000So I understand why the Speaker wants to move it.
00:25:28.000But whenever you play these pressure games, these jet fumes holiday games, I think things get a little bit dicey, and you run the risk of them all exploding.
00:26:15.000And we have a role here in Congress to do the same thing.
00:26:17.000So that's the goal, and we hope we'll try to do it.
00:26:19.000But we've got to get it done the right way, not just to get it done.
00:26:22.000Yeah, Congressman, to be clear, however we do this bill, whether you guys get your concessions or whether the moderates get their concessions, this is going to expand the deficit, correct?
00:26:34.000Okay, well, it depends on your perspective on that.
00:26:39.000If you take the CBO score and you assume the economic growth that I think you and I and a lot of us believe in, we assumed about 2.5% economic growth to create about $2.5 trillion of revenue over 10 years.
00:26:52.000If you assume that growth and you factor that into the CBO score, you would assume we would actually have deficit over 10 years would actually go down by about $100 or $200 billion.
00:27:36.000I'm with my Republican colleagues on that.
00:27:38.000But I can't just assume it and then assume that we're going to get all the savings in year eight when we're going to be having a $450 billion deficit in 2026.
00:27:47.000Even with dynamic growth, they assume that much deficit.
00:27:51.000I've got a problem with that, and we're trying to squeeze that out and get expenses down.
00:28:09.000The president can move those levers around, so you can't fully count on what that would be.
00:28:13.000For example, if he's successful in telling Venezuela, hey, you're tariffed unless you take our illegals, you know, your illegals back, or, you know, if we're doing tariffs in China or whatever, and you start making success, well, then those revenues, they're going to go down.
00:28:27.000So we can't count on them permanently, but we know there's revenue coming in.
00:28:31.000So in the back of our minds, we're going, eh, okay, that's good.
00:29:10.000I would also note that while many of the president's priorities, like no tax on tips and extensions of the expensing from the tax cuts in jobs at, end in four or five years.
00:29:21.000These go all the way through 10 years and would score $350 billion.
00:29:25.000I don't think that was the right deal to cut yesterday by the Speaker.
00:30:16.000Now, Medicaid, to me, I mean, people don't realize, Medicaid is the fastest-growing portion of the federal budget, and we are actively incentivizing really good states like Texas, Tennessee, Florida, because we're making the math not make sense for them to keep being disciplined.
00:30:32.000So we're going to incentivize them to grow the roles further.
00:30:34.000Once they come on, as you made a point, Chip, they're going to stay on.
00:30:37.000It's going to be harder to get them off.
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00:32:06.000So President Trump has the president of South Africa in the Oval, and obviously there is a lot of controversy, I think wrongly placed controversy, over the Afrikaners being granted asylum in the United States.
00:32:22.000People don't like it because they're white.
00:33:41.000There's been scores of them murdered and targeted.
00:33:45.000And President Trump is putting an absolute spotlight with moral clarity.
00:33:50.000On the plight of white South African farmers being targeted because it has been the balkanization, the tribalization of this far-left ideology, this race hatred that has been allowed to just fester and grow in South Africa.
00:34:05.000Good for President Trump to shine a light on it like no one else could.
00:34:13.000So President Trump is sitting in the Oval Office.
00:34:16.000With the leader of South Africa, the president of South Africa, Cyril Ramaphosa.
00:34:28.000And he's sitting in the White House with him and he dims the lights and he forces him to watch videos of South African political leaders calling for the death of whites.
00:35:49.000It's the contrast to Joe Biden could not be more stark.
00:35:54.000To feeble, decrepit, wandering, rudderless Joe Biden.
00:36:01.000Whose morality had been so twisted up because of all of his far-left staffers and all of the constituencies and coalition members that he had to cater to.
00:36:11.000There was no moral clarity, and now we have moral clarity.
00:36:15.000In another way of saying it, President Trump is actually the leader of the free world.
00:36:25.000Not only is he the center of the political universe, he is actually the leader of the free world, which goes back to what we talked about with Charlie being in the UK.
00:36:34.000We are calling the West back to itself.
00:36:37.000We are calling all of the West back to itself to return to its former glory.
00:36:41.000And South Africa needs to live up to its own morality here.
00:36:47.000Nelson Mandela, love him or hate him, most people seem to love him.
00:36:54.000A more race, less colorblind, less South Africa, where everybody was free, that has been twisted and contorted and bastardized by the new political movements that want to take back land from white South Africans.
00:37:10.000President Trump is shoving the truth right into Cyril's face, the president of South Africa.
00:37:18.000And J.D. Vance going to Munich and calling Europe back to its liberal values, the liberal values that we share in America, of free speech, of equal application of the law, of colorblind meritocracy.
00:37:35.000Trump bringing the receipts to the White House.
00:37:38.000Never sleep on President Trump when he's got another foreign leader at the White House.
00:37:44.000This could be part of The spark to reignite Western civilization, a Western civilization renaissance to remember who we are, to remember our greatness, and to never apologize for that greatness, but instead boldly grow it, go forth, and make our countries wonderful, great, free, prosperous, and rich again.
00:38:07.000Nobody should be able to take that away from us.
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