The Charlie Kirk Show - March 12, 2022


Did the US Government Prop Up Ukrainian Nazis & Bio-Labs? In Depth with Lara Logan


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Laura Logan joins us to talk about biological weapons in Ukraine, Nazis in Ukraine and the CIA's engagement in Ukraine. She's a former CBS News war correspondent who won many awards covering the front lines of conflict across the world and won many journalism awards.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today in the Charlie Kirk Show, Laura Logan joins us for questions about biolabs, Nazis in Ukraine, and the CIA's engagement in Ukraine.
00:00:08.000 A very thought-provoking, fact-first episode.
00:00:11.000 Laura Logan is a award-winning CBS News, former CBS News war correspondent. 0.96
00:00:17.000 She went to the front lines of war theaters across the world and won many awards for her coverage.
00:00:21.000 She's very reputable, very trusted, and very factual.
00:00:25.000 I think you'll really enjoy this conversation.
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00:00:52.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:00:54.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses.
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00:01:22.000 That's why we are here.
00:01:25.000 I want to play a piece of tape here of a Russian Federation member at the Security Council from Russia talking about the biological activities in Ukraine.
00:01:34.000 He was very precise, and obviously he could be just pushing Russian propaganda, or maybe there's something here about biochemical research, maybe gain of function research.
00:01:43.000 We don't know of what's happening in Ukraine.
00:01:46.000 Let's play CUP 119.
00:01:48.000 We convened the meeting today because as Russia is conducting a special military operation in Ukraine, we discovered a truly shocking fact of emergency cleanup by the Kiev regime of the traces of a military biological program, which is being implemented by Kiev with support by the United States Ministry of Defense.
00:02:09.000 Aimed at strengthening the pathogenic qualities of the plague, anthrax, tularemia, cholera, and other lethal diseases using synthetic biology.
00:02:26.000 So someone is lying here, and the Russians very well might be lying. 0.87
00:02:29.000 They're known for it.
00:02:31.000 The American government is also known for lying as well.
00:02:33.000 So who's lying?
00:02:34.000 There really is very little gray area in this particular situation.
00:02:38.000 Either there are research facilities that we're engaging in biochemical research or biomedical research or potential gain of function research, or there isn't.
00:02:49.000 It's very simple.
00:02:50.000 So the Russian Federation is saying it's here.
00:02:52.000 We've realized that we're cleaning it up.
00:02:54.000 Now, again, they could have planted it.
00:02:56.000 They could be misconstruing it.
00:02:58.000 But what is true?
00:02:59.000 That's the question.
00:03:01.000 Now, by even playing this clip, the media is going to say we're pawns of Russia.
00:03:04.000 Of course, that's not even worth entertaining, as we have repeatedly denounced, I should say, the actions of Vladimir Putin and of Russia.
00:03:17.000 And so we're getting some emails here about the biochemical research and what's behind it.
00:03:22.000 And let us not forget, Victoria Newland said herself that there were these research facilities in Ukraine.
00:03:31.000 Was the United States behind it?
00:03:32.000 Were we funding it?
00:03:33.000 Were we the driving force?
00:03:36.000 Were we the inspiration for it?
00:03:37.000 We don't know.
00:03:38.000 We do know that we were involved in gain of function research in Wuhan.
00:03:41.000 Were we involved in gain of function research also in Ukraine?
00:03:44.000 We do know that Ukraine was a Petri dish for the worst impulses of the American ruling class. 0.93
00:03:51.000 If Hunter Biden needed to go earn $83,000 a month, he went to Ukraine.
00:03:55.000 If Biden needed to go fire a prosecutor, he went to Ukraine.
00:04:00.000 If you needed to go try to wage a proxy conflict against Russia, you went to Ukraine.
00:04:08.000 Let's play a tape here of John McCain, where McCain was saying that we need to further involve ourselves in the Ukrainian conflict and that we need to ramp up the military potential intervention.
00:04:25.000 We'll find that tape here, but it goes to show that it wouldn't be shocking or surprising.
00:04:30.000 It's not as if all of a sudden we discovered gain of function research in Zambia, like some sort of random country.
00:04:36.000 Ukraine has direct ties to the kind of corrupt intergovernmental private public partnership class of the United States government.
00:04:47.000 We want to get to the truth, and you get to the truth by asking questions.
00:04:50.000 This is exactly why on this program, we were months ahead on the Chinese coronavirus story, because we asked the right questions.
00:04:58.000 The right questions will lead you to the answers the media does not want to have you.
00:05:02.000 And I'm fully, I'm not dogmatic about this.
00:05:05.000 This whole thing could be Russian propaganda about the biomedical research.
00:05:08.000 But then why did Victoria Newland say that? 0.85
00:05:11.000 Let's play Cut 105, just as an example of how Ukraine has been a, let's say, workshop. 1.00
00:05:18.000 Ukraine has kind of been a seed funding enterprise for the worst impulses of Washington, D.C. Play Cut 105, please. 0.94
00:05:27.000 I'm Senator John McCain, and it's always a pleasure to be back in Ukraine.
00:05:31.000 Senator McCain was, in a sense, giving the people in the Medina a feeling that they had the backing of the most powerful country on earth.
00:05:40.000 This is about the future you want for your country.
00:05:43.000 This is about the future you deserve.
00:05:47.000 So that's John McCain speaking to the Ukrainian people, basically promising military support and teasing potential NATO membership.
00:05:56.000 That's very irresponsible to do if you actually don't have the ability to be able to execute on that.
00:06:03.000 Joe Biden has been unclear.
00:06:06.000 He's not engaging in active diplomacy, something Donald Trump did very well.
00:06:10.000 Not only was Donald Trump able to lead through peace through strength, but there's not a world leader he did not go and meet face to face with to try to broker peace.
00:06:19.000 He went with Vladimir, he met with Vladimir Putin in Helsinki, went out of his way to go meet with Kim Jong un, out of his way to meet with China.
00:06:26.000 And despite being mocked and ridiculed by the entire media, the dictators and despots and authoritarians across the world, they did not move an inch into another sovereign country or territory.
00:06:38.000 Laura Logan, whose reputation precedes her, she's terrific and phenomenal. 0.84
00:06:42.000 Laura, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:06:44.000 Thank you so much, Charlie.
00:06:45.000 It's good to be here.
00:06:47.000 Just kind of tell us what are some of the biggest falsehoods or misleading kind of things that are happening in the media when it comes to the Russian-Ukrainian situation.
00:06:55.000 The first trap is that you can be critical of Vladimir Putin, but also be critical of Ukraine at the same time.
00:07:01.000 It's not an either-or.
00:07:03.000 Second thing is, Putin is not trying to lead the world into nuclear war.
00:07:06.000 He has demonstrated his nuclear capability as a deterrent because he doesn't want nuclear war.
00:07:11.000 Third is, this war isn't just about Russia and Ukraine.
00:07:15.000 This war is about the expansion of NATO and the West right on Putin's doorstep.
00:07:19.000 And he has been saying for 15 years he's not going to put up with it and he's not going to put up with it, whether you like it or not.
00:07:24.000 That's how it goes.
00:07:25.000 And then, of course, the bioweapons labs.
00:07:27.000 This is a major issue.
00:07:28.000 It's something that we're going to have to address.
00:07:31.000 They've been trying to ignore it.
00:07:32.000 They're not going to be able to ignore it.
00:07:34.000 And it goes to the heart of what we're talking about.
00:07:37.000 But perhaps the biggest thing of all is to understand that Western Ukraine was a Nazi stronghold.
00:07:43.000 It was the headquarters of the SS.
00:07:45.000 They threw themselves behind the Nazis. 0.80
00:07:47.000 And when Putin said that he was getting rid of Nazis within the Ukrainian military, that was true. 0.99
00:07:53.000 You may not like him. 0.98
00:07:54.000 You may think he's a big liar. 0.83
00:07:55.000 He's full of propaganda, but the reality is the Azov Battalion in Ukraine that is funded by the United States and NATO is a Nazi battalion. 0.90
00:08:03.000 They carry the swastika with them onto the battlefield and with them. 0.93
00:08:08.000 And the SS logos are built into their own patch. 0.98
00:08:11.000 And so we really need to ask ourselves why we, as the United States of America, are funding Nazism in Ukraine at the same time as that we deem anyone who didn't vote for Joe Biden or perhaps voted for Trump as a white supremacist and a terrorist and a Nazi. 0.93
00:08:27.000 It doesn't add up.
00:08:29.000 So Laura, there's a lot there we're going to have to unpack, but the one in particular I want our audience to explore together is the bio labs.
00:08:37.000 That's the thing I really want to go through.
00:08:38.000 And then we can ask about the Azov Battalion as well.
00:08:41.000 I'm very, very curious.
00:08:42.000 And just so everyone knows, Laura Logan is an award-winning journalist and war correspondent.
00:08:46.000 Laura was at CBS News for quite a while and she was on the front lines doing actual war journalism.
00:08:52.000 If there's anyone that has the credibility to talk about this stuff, it's Laura Logan.
00:08:56.000 Laura, I want to get into the bio labs.
00:08:58.000 There's a lot of confusion around this.
00:08:59.000 There's conflicting reports.
00:09:01.000 The Russian Federation says at the UN that they stumbled upon these bio labs.
00:09:05.000 I don't believe Russians at face value. 1.00
00:09:08.000 Are they telling the truth?
00:09:09.000 What's really going on here, Laura?
00:09:10.000 And is the United States involved at all?
00:09:12.000 Okay, so it doesn't take a genius really to figure out, right, that, I mean, both the United States and the Russians have a history of dealing in bio weapons.
00:09:23.000 We know this just from what we've learned about COVID.
00:09:27.000 During the Cold War, of course, when the Soviet Union was in place, the Russians did build bioweapons facilities across the Soviet Union. 0.63
00:09:36.000 Well, one of the things that happened is we have a program under the United States government where we have gone and DTRA, it's called.
00:09:36.000 How do we know this?
00:09:46.000 And you can actually go on the State Department website and you can look up that program.
00:09:50.000 And it's, you know, it's the Threat Reduction Agency, right?
00:09:54.000 And so we send in American scientists and doctors to go and break down, for example, Russian stockpiles of anthrax and other things that the Soviet Union and the United States agreed under international treaties that they wouldn't proliferate.
00:10:09.000 The problem is that while the United States will tell you that they converted these bioweapons labs into public health facilities, right, and that they have only been interested in de-escalating, that they're not involved in bioweapons or anything like that.
00:10:27.000 There's a couple of things that just don't add up.
00:10:29.000 So, first of all, why the State Department came out and denied completely that they had anything to do with this is a mystery because that's a lie.
00:10:38.000 It's not true.
00:10:39.000 And there's extensive evidence.
00:10:41.000 Secondly, we don't know what they've been doing in those bio labs.
00:10:45.000 And while they say that these are public health facilities, the fact that they're lying about it, the fact that they don't want to come clean about it, you know, makes people ask questions fairly, legitimately.
00:10:58.000 The second problem is that on February 26, so not long before this conflict got underway, we're actually in the midst of it, the United States government deleted the locations and information about this open source program from its website.
00:11:18.000 So I actually just sent your producer Andrew, I just sent him a list of all the facilities because, you know, I was onto the bioweapons labs some time ago.
00:11:28.000 And so I asked cyber people that I know who are much smarter than me on this stuff to, you know, to capture anything that they could find that was legitimate.
00:11:39.000 And they did.
00:11:40.000 And then lo and behold, you know, we didn't expect this, but suddenly all this information was deleted.
00:11:46.000 Now, you'll have some people in the U.S. government will tell you, well, there was nothing nefarious in these labs.
00:11:51.000 If there was, it wouldn't have been open source information.
00:11:53.000 Well, that is just a very convenient way of getting out of it because the reality is they have perfected this technique.
00:12:00.000 It's called hiding in plain sight.
00:12:04.000 So what do they do?
00:12:05.000 They tell you what they're doing, but not what they're really doing.
00:12:08.000 They just tell you a little bit of it, maybe a piece of it, and they put the map out and they have cover, right?
00:12:13.000 Because if you look at Ukraine and you look at what's been happening there in the last few years, they've had very strange outbreaks of botulism and COVID, SARS-like diseases and so on, right?
00:12:25.000 That no one has been able to explain and that haven't been taking place anywhere else.
00:12:29.000 Now imagine you're Vladimir Putin and you're supposed to take the United States at face value.
00:12:36.000 First of all, you took over all of Russia's bioweapons facilities. 0.93
00:12:40.000 So they know that these are bioweapons facilities.
00:12:43.000 Maybe you built some of your own.
00:12:45.000 We don't know that for sure.
00:12:47.000 But we do know that there is a massive number of pharmaceutical companies and pharmaceutical development companies and bioscience companies who just happen to be headquartered in Ukraine.
00:13:01.000 And, you know, when you're as an investigative journalist, I mean, that raises a red flag for me because it's not typical.
00:13:07.000 Not every country in the world has that kind of, you know, infrastructure.
00:13:12.000 And we're right, right fresh in the midst, which everyone seems to have forgotten about, of a pandemic that wasn't really a pandemic.
00:13:21.000 That if you go back to the National Institutes of Health, Dr. Fauci knew years ago, his name is on paper and research at NIH that shows he knew that iver and hydroxychloroquine and all these things, you know, would treat COVID.
00:13:34.000 And yet they withheld these treatments.
00:13:36.000 We know that COVID is a product of gain of function research.
00:13:40.000 I mean, give me a break, right?
00:13:42.000 No one's actually calling for the wet market, escape from the lab.
00:13:45.000 Maybe it was a, you know, maybe it was a mistake kind of thing anymore because of the pattern of behavior that has followed.
00:13:53.000 And we now have even one of the big investors at BlackRock, one of the portfolio managers there, who has broken away from BlackRock, he's out pointing out statistically how look at what we have, comorbidities.
00:14:06.000 The vaccines are killing people.
00:14:08.000 So, you know, while some people may believe that they're being saved and they're right, they're saving some people, they're actually murdering people.
00:14:14.000 I want to just ask you specifically and dive into this.
00:14:17.000 It's about this kind of biolab, which is this.
00:14:20.000 Is it possible that Fauci's fingerprints were on the Ukrainian bio labs?
00:14:25.000 And is it possible gain of function could have taken place in these bio-laboratories?
00:14:30.000 Yes, absolutely.
00:14:31.000 In fact, there's some evidence emerging already that Fauci's fingerprints are on this.
00:14:35.000 And, you know, as head of the National Institutes of Health, Fauci's fingerprints are probably pretty much on U.S. laboratories, especially when it comes to biological research all over the world, right?
00:14:48.000 Because he was the top guy.
00:14:49.000 He's the guy that approved this.
00:14:51.000 He's the guy that moved it all offshore.
00:14:53.000 I mean, Fauci's fingerprints are on a lot of things.
00:14:56.000 They also go back to AZT, which was presented as a panacea for AIDS and mimicked the progression of the disease and killed millions of people before anyone even knew it.
00:15:08.000 And not only that, but his fingerprints are also on experiments on black foster children in seven states.
00:15:14.000 I mean, that was reported on by NPR and NBC and CBS and so on.
00:15:19.000 And what is amazing is how the media today has no memory of things that get in the way of these false narratives or these political traps, like you were just discussing, where you can only be one way or the other.
00:15:33.000 And what, you know, what is coming out here is just ironic because Gensaki is accusing the Russians of disinformation and propaganda.
00:15:42.000 And sure, the Russians are good at that. 0.99
00:15:44.000 Why would they not be, right?
00:15:45.000 They, like anybody else, are fighting for their country.
00:15:48.000 But so is the U.S.
00:15:50.000 And the other classic that came out of Gen Saki is that she has said the Russians accuse people of doing what they're doing.
00:15:57.000 No, Gensaki, you accuse people of doing what you're doing.
00:16:02.000 We've seen it over and over and over again.
00:16:05.000 Who are the real fascists?
00:16:07.000 Well, it turns out to be you. 0.70
00:16:08.000 Who are the real Nazis?
00:16:10.000 Oh, that turns out to be you, because you're funding them and you're protecting them and you're lying about them, right?
00:16:17.000 And so the truth is, Charlie, we always have to remember that we don't know much more than we know, right, about this situation.
00:16:26.000 But we know that the U.S. Embassy in Ukraine has official notifications on their website about the threat reduction program, admitting that they're involved in these labs and funding these labs and paying the salaries probably of Ukrainian scientists who are working in these labs.
00:16:41.000 We know that Putin has demanded that they hand over some of these scientists.
00:16:46.000 He does not content to have the actual physical evidence.
00:16:49.000 He wants all of the evidence.
00:16:51.000 And he wants, he's going to, you know, he's going all the way with this because the world has just emerged from a global situation that the U.S. fingerprints, Dr. Fauci's fingerprints are all over that.
00:17:06.000 People no longer trust Dr. Fauci, the sad little man who has disappeared.
00:17:12.000 They no longer trust the United States.
00:17:14.000 They no longer trust the World Health Organization and these bodies who have lied and lied and lied.
00:17:19.000 They are responsible for millions of deaths, for suffering and poverty.
00:17:24.000 And we haven't even begun to count the full cost yet.
00:17:27.000 So Laura, I'm going to play some tape here just from what Russia is saying.
00:17:32.000 And again, I don't take what they say at all in a truthful face value, but somebody is lying.
00:17:36.000 Either the Russian government is lying or the United States is lying.
00:17:40.000 Let's go to Cut 77 of the Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov, or maybe both.
00:17:45.000 So, quote, we have information that the U.S. has built two biological warfare labs in Kiev and Odessa.
00:17:51.000 Play cut 77, please.
00:17:53.000 It has arrived there, and we had data, and you have data that Pentagon, the Pentagon is preoccupied about the chemical and biological installations in Ukraine because Pentagon built two biological war labs, and they have been developing pathogens there in Kiev and in Odessa.
00:18:15.000 And now they are concerned that they may lose control over these labs.
00:18:20.000 So, Laura, before I have you respond, I also want to play Cut 88, and then the floor is yours after this cut.
00:18:25.000 It's about a minute cut, but this is what started this whole thing, which gives it credibility, is Marco Rubio and Victoria Newland in the Senate going back and forth.
00:18:32.000 It's about a minute.
00:18:33.000 Let's listen to it just so people understand our own government is saying this, and then they start to clean up.
00:18:38.000 So, Laura, as soon as this clip is over, the floor is yours.
00:18:41.000 Let's play Cut 88.
00:18:43.000 Well, I only have a minute left.
00:18:45.000 Let me ask you.
00:18:48.000 Does Ukraine have chemical or biological weapons?
00:18:52.000 Ukraine has biological research facilities, which, in fact, we are now quite concerned Russian troops, Russian forces may be seeking to gain control of.
00:19:09.000 So, we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces should they approach.
00:19:22.000 I'm sure you're aware that the Russian propaganda groups are already putting out there all kinds of information about how they've uncovered a plot by the Ukrainians to release biological weapons in the country and with NATO's coordination.
00:19:34.000 If there's a biological or chemical weapon incident or attack inside of Ukraine, is there any doubt in your mind that 100% it would be the Russians that would be behind it? 0.97
00:19:43.000 There is no doubt in my mind, Senator, and it is classic Russian technique to blame on the other guy what they're planning to do themselves. 0.99
00:19:54.000 Wow.
00:19:55.000 Laura, the floor is yours.
00:19:57.000 Charlie, if anyone had any doubt about Marco Rubio, there you have it.
00:20:03.000 The man is an absolute patsy and a puppet for this administration because that exchange, apart from the fact that it was so obviously rehearsed, they planned those questions in advance.
00:20:16.000 They staged it to lead to that final answer and to push everything on to the Russians. 0.95
00:20:22.000 And what really disturbs me about that is how fundamentally theatrical and dishonest it is.
00:20:29.000 You cannot say in advance, is there any doubt in your mind that it would be this?
00:20:34.000 It hasn't happened yet.
00:20:36.000 That fits into the category of unknowable, because you have no control over the actions of various people from Ukraine who are on the ground.
00:20:46.000 Secondly, you know, yes, the Russians, of course, they do propaganda. 0.54
00:20:50.000 But you know what?
00:20:50.000 They're good at it.
00:20:51.000 So does the United States.
00:20:53.000 It does a lot of propaganda and we're also pretty good at it.
00:20:56.000 There's nothing honorable about either Victoria Newland or about Marco Rubio.
00:21:01.000 I would urge everybody to proliferate that and to demand answers from whatever is left of the GOP.
00:21:08.000 Because at this point, if you don't see that we are being set up, number one, we know that the U.S. is involved in these labs.
00:21:16.000 We know they're funding them.
00:21:17.000 We know that because it's on their website, okay?
00:21:20.000 We know that because there is a threat reduction program that they've been operational there for decades.
00:21:27.000 So we know that.
00:21:28.000 We know that they deleted files from their website.
00:21:31.000 And we know that they hide things in plain sight.
00:21:33.000 We know that we don't know what other things that they were working on in these labs, but we absolutely have unexplained botulism outbreaks and things like that that have been happening in Ukraine that have been killing Ukrainian people.
00:21:45.000 We know that they're lying about who they're funding in the Ukrainian military.
00:21:49.000 We know that the CIA, all the way back to the end of the Second World War, protected Ukraine's Nazis from prosecution at the Nuremberg trials.
00:21:58.000 Why?
00:21:59.000 Why did we do that, Charlie?
00:22:00.000 Why do we have all these Nazis in the U.S. government today?
00:22:04.000 People like John Kerry, whose family ran the Villa Carey, right in Austria.
00:22:08.000 They were his cousins.
00:22:10.000 They were the ones who provided all the paperwork for these senior SS people to come and get out of Europe and escape any kind of accountability for their crimes and to live out their lives in other places. 0.87
00:22:21.000 Why do we have people like that?
00:22:23.000 Why did the CIA under Operation Paperclip bring back the worst of the Nazis, the most evil of them all, and give them safe haven in the United States and citizenship and jobs for life and everything else? 0.85
00:22:37.000 There is a dirty history here of the United States and the Nazis, and it's got nothing to do with Donald Trump and it's got nothing to do with the average American. 0.56
00:22:46.000 It's got to do with our leaders who, if you want the classic example of what Victoria Newland said there, they accuse people of what they do themselves.
00:22:55.000 Haven't they been accusing everybody of being Nazis for how many years now?
00:23:00.000 And when all this time, they're the ones protecting Nazis. 0.79
00:23:03.000 They're the ones arming Nazis with some of our most advanced military equipment. 0.89
00:23:09.000 Remember that dirtbag, otherwise known as Lieutenant Colonel Vindman, who some lieutenant colonel who's going to sit there during the so-called sham impeachment trial and is going to tell the president of the United States what his policy should or shouldn't be in Ukraine?
00:23:24.000 Come on.
00:23:25.000 Why that guy?
00:23:26.000 He admitted when he was on the floor, they used this as a tactic, right?
00:23:30.000 He had broken the law because he had been asked by Ukraine to be their top defense official in their government.
00:23:36.000 And he had been asked not once, but several times, according to him.
00:23:39.000 And he never reported that in violation of counterintelligence and his security clearance and all the other related laws.
00:23:46.000 So what did they do?
00:23:47.000 They let him just say it on the floor of the impeachment trial so that he could get away with it.
00:23:52.000 But you had people like that.
00:23:54.000 You had the ridiculous excuse of an ambassador who is after the election telling the Ukrainian government, don't worry about the legally elected president. 0.78
00:24:04.000 of the United States of America. 0.69
00:24:06.000 Don't worry about the will of the people or the constitution or U.S. law.
00:24:10.000 We are the real leaders of America, regardless of the election results.
00:24:15.000 And we're the ones that you need to keep working with.
00:24:17.000 And at the same time, by the way, Mitt Romney, Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry, again, and of course, Joe Biden, we're going to give your children millions of dollars.
00:24:26.000 And then that fabulous interview you did with Pedro Gonzalez there, who he's talking about the National Endowment for Democracy.
00:24:26.000 Don't worry.
00:24:34.000 These people are not aid workers.
00:24:36.000 They're not non-governmental organizations.
00:24:38.000 They're not charities.
00:24:39.000 They are the brown shirts and the SS rolled into one. 0.99
00:24:43.000 They are traitors and treasonists. 0.97
00:24:46.000 They are the people who are going all over the world in the name of charity using that deception. 0.82
00:24:52.000 And they're running their policies through U.S. embassies like the one in Ukraine.
00:24:56.000 Go to John Solomon's website.
00:24:58.000 Remember, John Solomon's reporting was at the center of the Ukraine trial.
00:25:01.000 It was all about the impeachment, the impeachment, right?
00:25:05.000 Because John Solomon had proof that these SARS-funded groups were running the policy of the United States government through the U.S. embassy, telling Ukraine who they should and should not investigate for corruption.
00:25:18.000 Don't investigate our corrupt bad guys, only the ones that we want you to get rid of.
00:25:23.000 Laura, I want to get to two questions if we can.
00:25:25.000 The first question, tell us about the Azov Battalion.
00:25:27.000 I'm told it's only a small part of Ukrainian troops, 5,000 people.
00:25:31.000 There seems to be a lot of effort to disqualify it.
00:25:33.000 How widespread and how influential is that?
00:25:35.000 And then also talk about the Central Intelligence Agency and how involved they've been in Ukrainian activity over the last couple of decades.
00:25:42.000 The floor is yours.
00:25:43.000 Right.
00:25:43.000 And they really hate me when I do this kind of thing.
00:25:45.000 They mock me all over, you know, Media Matters for America, those idiots. 1.00
00:25:50.000 But look at this. 1.00
00:25:51.000 Okay, that's the AZOV battalion, right?
00:25:54.000 And if you can see, this is their insignia right in the middle there.
00:25:58.000 That is that blue and yellow.
00:26:00.000 That is their insignia.
00:26:02.000 And right next to that, of course, the schwatsticker. 0.99
00:26:04.000 And of course, on the other side, NATO's flag.
00:26:06.000 But what I want to point out to you is this, this for the AZOF battalion, and anybody can look up their insignia, this sideways kind of lightning there, that is the insignia of the Nazi SS, okay?
00:26:18.000 And behind that, you will see a sun.
00:26:21.000 And what that is, is the black sun of the occult, because the SS, what many people don't realize, had a really dark occult dimension to it.
00:26:31.000 And that is central to really understanding who these people are.
00:26:36.000 I just want you to imagine that in the United States military, we had one unit of 5,000 out of our professional military that walked around with the Schwatsticker as their flag.
00:26:48.000 I mean, come on to say that it doesn't matter that these people exist.
00:26:54.000 So basically, Putin said he was coming in to get rid of the Nazis and demilitarize Ukraine, right?
00:27:01.000 We know because everyone from Eric Swoval to Nancy Pelosi to Lindsey Graham to Amy Klubashar to all of these people who are so desperate to go to war in Ukraine have been given Ukraine weapons.
00:27:11.000 We've been giving them billions of U.S. tax dollars.
00:27:14.000 And what do we know about that?
00:27:16.000 Well, we now know that those units using U.S. weapons, paper with U.S. tax dollars, have been murdering Russian-speaking Ukrainians in the east of the country.
00:27:28.000 They have also been expanding in violation of all of their agreements and treaties and promises to Russia that they wouldn't bring NATO to their door.
00:27:37.000 And they have been interfering in the internal politics of Ukraine.
00:27:42.000 The CIA-backed color revolution that Pedro was talking about, right down to Victoria and Newland discussing and picking who the people would be in the government, to the Soros Open Society, National Endowment people dictating U.S. policy through the Ukrainian embassy.
00:27:56.000 And then let's not forget, okay, that this also ties back to Russia collusion, because the people who were instrumental in framing Donald Trump and stealing just how many hundreds of millions of dollars in tax money from this country in crippling a presidency that could have done a lot policy-wise to help this country-many of them came from Ukraine.
00:28:21.000 Alexandra Chalupa is the Democratic operative and lobbyist who was working with the Ukrainians.
00:28:26.000 Remember, she got the Ukrainian ambassador.
00:28:28.000 She got him to write this letter before saying that Ukraine did not support Donald Trump and they supported Hillary Clinton.
00:28:35.000 That broke with diplomatic protocol for every country on earth, interfering in the domestic politics of a U.S. election, right?
00:28:43.000 Which is a no-no in the diplomatic core.
00:28:45.000 And then don't forget what put Paul Manafort behind bars.
00:28:48.000 Magically, this ledger appeared that so-called detailed all of the payments, right?
00:28:53.000 And put him away.
00:28:55.000 Well, now there's serious, serious questions about the legitimacy of that so-called ledger that probably there's a high likelihood was manufactured.
00:29:04.000 So the roots of much of what the United States has been going through the last few years are in Ukraine.
00:29:10.000 And something that this has exposed, which to me is critical, is that we now see who the traitors are: Lindsey Graham, Marco Rubio, Amy Klobuchar.
00:29:23.000 These people do not represent the United States of America.
00:29:26.000 What are they doing?
00:29:27.000 Anyone who represents the U.S. would be trying to dial it back with Putin, right?
00:29:32.000 They would be trying to play this down.
00:29:34.000 They would be trying to negotiate.
00:29:35.000 They would be trying to calm everything.
00:29:37.000 But no, we want to demonize Putin.
00:29:39.000 And why do we pretend that the size of the Azov battalion has got anything to do with it?
00:29:44.000 This is funded by the U.S., it's funded by NATO.
00:29:48.000 It defines itself not just in the occult and in the Nazis, but in the heart of the most evil part of the Nazis, the Nazi SS, which, by the way, don't be fooled by the history, right? 0.74
00:30:01.000 A selective reading of history.
00:30:03.000 Western Ukraine backed the Nazis and was a headquarters for the SS.
00:30:08.000 So while, and it was Ukrainians who murdered hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian Jews.
00:30:14.000 Laura, that was comprehensive and lots of wisdom there.
00:30:18.000 Thank you so much for joining us, Laura Logan, award-winning war correspondent.
00:30:21.000 We'll have to have you back on.
00:30:22.000 Thank you, Charlie.
00:30:23.000 Thank you.
00:30:23.000 Love to see you.
00:30:26.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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