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00:05:31.000I think he is trying to get the best deal he can.
00:05:34.000And I think this is going to be a bit like 2020, where he was widely seen to lose the first debate, but then he came back and did much better in the second.
00:06:44.000I can think of advantages and disadvantages to going ahead and having another debate.
00:06:48.000Kurt, play the political calculus out for us though.
00:06:52.000Does it make sense for Trump to do a second debate?
00:06:56.000Or is he seeing the fact that independents are tracking with Republicans, you know, they've got those graphs and we played those earlier in the week.
00:07:04.000Independents are tracking with Republicans like they haven't done since 2016.
00:07:08.000There was also a lot of ink spilled about focus groups and, you know, a lot of the undecideds were breaking for Trump after a debate that Kamala thinks she won.
00:07:19.000My question is, does Trump need a knockout or can he continue on this path where people learn a little more about Kamala and then go over to Trump?
00:07:29.000Trump's not going to lose any people, okay?
00:07:34.000I don't think he's going to stead any support.
00:07:39.000I don't think he would lose people significantly if he did even a poor debate, okay?
00:07:45.000And people say he didn't do great on this one.
00:09:42.000But somehow, in the midst of all of that, the performance artist, Kamala, said all the right things, and it didn't land a punch, really, on him.
00:10:56.000They know that 90% of permanent change comes from the mind, and they work on eliminating the reason you gained this weight in the first place.
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00:11:54.000He's the host of Salem 990, The Answer in Philadelphia, and he's also the VP of content at the Herzog Foundation doing important work, also a partner on this show, in the area of education.
00:12:10.000One of the things we don't talk about as much, because there's so much drama going on with this election, but we're not talking about how it's going to impact Our kids' education.
00:12:22.000Let's break down some of these issues that people are talking about in this education space that you are so familiar with.
00:12:28.000What would a Harris-Walz victory look like for parental rights?
00:12:36.000This is a huge, huge touchpoint in our country right now.
00:12:38.000Chris, Yeah, I think the biggest question we have before us is, Harris-Walls administration means more Randy Weingarten, more of the same teachers unions, more of the same public education.
00:12:52.000You know, I don't come to you today saying, shelve public education if that's your choice for your children.
00:12:58.000But what we know is that school choice is busting out all over the country.
00:13:02.000There are some 13 schools with what's known as some form of school choice.
00:13:06.000Many of them are what are known as universal school choice.
00:13:10.000You mentioned Charlie's in Nebraska today.
00:13:12.000They've got a constitutional issue this fall they'll be voting on to maintain school choice in Nebraska or reverse course.
00:13:19.000School unions are working hard, Andrew, to make sure that parents are stuck in a geographic Zip-coded school district where their children must go no matter how they perform without any choice whatsoever.
00:13:34.000And if they want to go elsewhere, they pay for it, which is fine.
00:13:39.000But the question before us all is, and I think everybody understands, if you're paying taxes to the state for education, Why not just let people keep that money?
00:14:20.000It's a publication of the Herzog Foundation, which Chris is involved with.
00:14:25.000Chris, and I think this is a big sleeper issue, by the way.
00:14:28.000Parental rights, also when it comes to the trans issue, all of these things.
00:14:32.000We have states like California and Oregon and Washington that have floated legislation or passed it where you could actually Sort of state-sanctioned kidnapping if you don't agree with the gender ideology or the gender transition of your child.
00:14:46.000But I think this is a huge sleeper issue.
00:14:48.000Are we seeing states that are leading on this, maybe Florida, others, when it comes to school choice, being able to get your kids out of a bad school and into a school that is performing?
00:14:58.000I got to tell you, we are really fortunate in some states to have role models.
00:15:05.000Two governors come to mind in particular.
00:15:07.000Well, despite Governor DeSantis, who has been kind of leading all along, I have to say, in Florida.
00:15:12.000But there are two that really stand out in the Midwest in particular, and that is Kim Reynolds of Iowa.
00:15:17.000And just to her south is Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders of Arkansas, both of whom have passed robust universal school choice.
00:15:25.000This was something Governor Sanders did in her first year.
00:15:29.000In fact, we're honored to host her tomorrow here at the foundation for a private conversation with some of our friends.
00:15:36.000She is a tremendous warrior for this cause.
00:15:38.000And, Andrew, what she managed to do, the carrot-stick approach was, we'll give the teachers in our state, our public school teachers, a raise if they agree to universal school choice and compete in the marketplace.
00:15:53.000That agreement was struck in the legislature.
00:16:03.000I mean, Sarah Huckabee Sanders is really proving her mettle in a lot of different ways.
00:16:09.000And I'm excited about her future, to be honest, Chris.
00:16:12.000Tell us about the Herzog Foundation and the work that you guys do there.
00:16:17.000Give us the pitch and why what you're doing is so important.
00:16:20.000I hope broadly, if there's anybody in your audience today, Andrew, that is in the Christian school space, maybe you currently operate a Christian school, and you're thinking about your future, maybe fundraising, maybe curriculum, maybe best practices, even things like security, managing a board, managing your school's resources.
00:16:38.000If you can travel to it, You get registered for it online.
00:16:42.000We offer different kinds of training around the country.
00:16:44.000If you can travel to it, we pick up the full training, your meals, your lodging, all of it.
00:16:52.000Our namesake, Stan Herzog, who we lost a few years ago, this was so important to him.
00:16:56.000Every nickel is is covered on on the foundation's dime if you can travel to the training So I really encourage people that are interested either creating a Christian school or homeschool Please reach out the Herzog foundation comm and we'll guide you as to how to do that.
00:17:26.000This election has has centered around these ideas of which candidate stands up for the basics of for quality of life of the American people and whether that is himself or Kamala Harris.
00:17:40.000And now you can be talking about the people of Springfield, Ohio, who find themselves in A very unique situation, but also the people of every major city in America, people who have been living in places like Los Angeles, people who live in Philadelphia, people who live in New York, Detroit, Chicago, that I visited in all the last couple of weeks here, that have absolutely deteriorated under this regime that is, for lack of a better term, completely anti-civilizational.
00:18:10.000And what President Trump is talking about, it's not just the border.
00:18:12.000It's not just the lawlessness we see there.
00:18:15.000It's the lawlessness that we see everywhere.
00:18:17.000And the border is just one example of that, how we've become completely overrun,
00:18:21.000completely controlled by a corrupt ruling class in this country that cares more about
00:18:27.000America being the leader of the G7, and America being the global hegemon,
00:18:32.000and America taking on the BRICS nations as if that's anything that's going to help
00:18:38.000the American people. And meanwhile, you've got homeless women with their babies in
00:18:42.000Springfield, Ohio, saying that she can't even get...
00:18:45.000Basic public housing because all the Haitians get first-run access to this.
00:18:50.000And Tim Walz, by the way, who's the vice presidential standard bearer on the Democrat side, is someone who all the way back in 2019 was doing the exact same thing.
00:18:58.000So you've got the Haitians to Ohio and you got the Somalians to Minnesota.
00:19:02.000And again, people are sitting there saying, Who is it that's for us?
00:19:05.000And one of the things that I've said for a long time is that if you think this is all happening by accident, you still don't quite get it yet.
00:19:14.000The point of a system is what it does.
00:19:17.000This is an operation that's being run on the American people.
00:19:20.000This is an operation that's being done to the American people to turn you into a debt slave, to put you in servitude, to make it so, and of course, as we know, the WF saying, you'll own nothing and be happy, but that really is what it comes down to.
00:19:36.000They want you to have no ownership, not only of your own homes, your own goods, but even of your own country.
00:19:42.000They want you to be a consumer, a consumer state, because you'll sit there, and I debated, the libertarian candidate, Chase Oliver, who's running for
00:19:52.000the Democrat candidate, or excuse me, the libertarian candidate for president.
00:19:56.000And you can read things like, oh, it's just about the GDP.
00:20:25.000And it's like, okay, I guess, but why does one small town and this is not just Springfield, by the way, this is happening all over America, but what is one small town of 50,000 have to be inundated with 20,000 foreigners almost overnight, transforming the culture, transforming the streets, transforming the economy.
00:20:44.000Everything about this town was turned upside down.
00:21:02.000They're sort of telling on themselves.
00:21:03.000Because in situations like this there's always an economic hub and there's always a business driver to it and here's what it is in Springfield.
00:21:09.000In Springfield you have a Japanese auto parts firm, you have a microchip processor fabrication plant that's in Springfield, you have various meat packing, meat processing centers in Springfield, and guess what?
00:21:22.000Guess who's getting all the jobs in Springfield?
00:21:31.000If there's all these unemployed people, all these homeless people in Springfield, why
00:21:34.000don't some of them just go take the jobs?
00:21:36.000And you of course hear this old canard that, oh, these are jobs that Americans won't do.
00:21:41.000As it turns out, here's how it works in reality.
00:21:45.000They create something called the hidden job market.
00:21:48.000So these businesses open up in a certain area, they pick one of these economically depressed areas, so they get credits from the federal government for operating there, and then they realize, wait a minute, we can get more federal credits and we can get more federal subsidies if we go and hire migrants and refugees through the refugee resettlement program.
00:22:05.000So they go to the refugee resettlement, and this could be Catholic charities, Lutheran charities, various other
00:22:11.000charity groups, refugee groups, they're bringing them in. And they tell them or they work with a
00:22:15.000network of independent recruiters, they tell them about the job openings. So they rig the
00:22:19.000system and create what's called the hidden job market. So that the people that live in the
00:22:24.000town don't even know about the job openings, the job openings all go to who the refugees and
00:22:30.000now the company is getting federal subsidies for hiring the refugees for hiring the migrants.
00:22:36.000They're getting they're getting more subsidies for operating in one of these areas and they're essentially importing their own slave labor.
00:22:43.000They're importing their own Low-cost workers and by the way at no cost to the company itself because we the people the federal government are Subsidizing the entire thing and the people who are the losers are as you say the people who lived in the town Say wait a minute.
00:23:00.000Why are all the people coming in you realize there's massive economic drivers to it But it's a perverse economy Because it's being subsidized by the federal government.
00:23:08.000Of course, by the way, the local town council, the local city manager, the local mayor, even the local governor in the sense of Ohio, they love it because they all get the increased tax benefits of having all of these businesses in their area.
00:23:21.000So they have an also a massive economic incentive to do what?
00:23:25.000Oh, to hide up or cover up the crimes that are being committed by the people who are there.
00:23:30.000And so Yeah, you know, it's unfortunate that, you know, sometimes school kids have to get killed in traffic accidents when one of these illegals crashes into a school bus on the first day of school and kills a little boy.
00:23:40.000But, you know, that's just, that's just, you know, that's all just worth it.
00:23:43.000You know, that's just a sacrifice to the altar of the GDP.
00:24:52.000You've got GOP rep Derek Van Orden in Wisconsin saying that his hometown is terrified after Venezuelan gang members' violent scourge.
00:25:02.000So there was Alejandro Jose Coronel Zarate, he's 26.
00:25:07.000He's accused of sexually and physically assaulting a woman under quote-unquote particularly brutal circumstances, holding the woman and daughter against their will, and over the course of a period of time sexually and physically assaulting them both.
00:25:20.000And this is according to the Prairie du Chien police chief Kyle Tenner, said this in a press conference.
00:25:26.000Then, Jack, I want to take your attention to A breaking story, actually.
00:25:31.000Let me make sure I've got the details right.
00:26:16.000Mom was being a mom, protecting her children.
00:26:20.000Dad, I can't say, but Nobody should ever be able to do this or be able to think that they could do that to a child.
00:26:30.000So Jack, this is an illegal that was also wanted for a 2019 murder in the Dominican Republic, but he traveled to Puerto Rico, got a fake ID, and just hopped right over to America and has been able to stay because the whole system is inundated with people like this.
00:26:47.000And now a family of four is dead because we let an illegal alien into our country.
00:26:54.000Yeah, one of the things that came up in that debate that I held with Chase Oliver and Robbie Suave and Ryan Grodusky were there as well was that They will say, well, wait a minute, you know, the, the, the rate they, and they start playing these statistics games and we'll say, well, the rate of violent crime from illegal immigrants is actually less than the rate of violent crime for all Americans.
00:27:19.000So therefore you don't have a problem with crime.
00:27:23.000You just have a problem with illegals.
00:27:25.000Twitch, of course, will respond, but wait a minute.
00:27:27.000We can actually reduce the rate of illegal immigrant crime to 0%.
00:27:32.000You're never going to be able to do that with any general population, but every single one of these crimes is preventable in the first instance, because we don't have to allow them to break into our country.
00:27:45.000Yeah, but I don't agree with those stats, by the way.
00:27:49.000I think those stats are completely flawed.
00:27:51.000I mean, I'll play a clip from John Legend, basically, He's basically being like, I'm because he's a Springfield, Ohio native.
00:27:58.000So that's where he that's where he was born.
00:27:59.000I don't think he's probably been back.
00:28:01.000But like, the point is, he makes the same point that he still lives there, right?
00:29:55.000They clean crime up, they put police officers on the street, which by the way, tells you right there that they know that if you want to decrease crime, you increase the status of police officers, you increase patrols.
00:31:21.000I was chatting with Charlie about this the other night after, I forget which event it was, but Charlie and I were just chatting, you know, one night and he was telling me about it and said, Jack, I've never seen anything like this.
00:31:34.000He's like, I've been doing these campus events for a decade now.
00:31:42.000We've gotten the protests, we've gotten attacked, but we've never been welcomed.
00:31:45.000And suddenly it seems like either there's this welcoming vibe, but then there's also a vibe of people who, they don't necessarily want to attack, but they actually seem like they want to ask questions.
00:31:56.000Like they're actually becoming curious as to what is the conservative movement?
00:32:03.000What is this, this thing that he stands for when you guys say America first?
00:32:07.000And I think a lot of it goes back to the work that people have been putting in, like Turning Point USA, but then also Donald Trump, to go to those non-political podcasts, to go on things like Theo Vaughn, to do the streaming with Twitch stars and all this different stuff that he's been doing to reach out to non-traditional audiences to kind of change the conversation as to where things are, as opposed to the way the mainstream media, the corporate media would paint all of us to suddenly say, wait a minute, you know, we are, we're not
00:32:37.000some like a hateful, you know, extremists who just hate the country and want to
00:33:14.000You've been the ones adding things, putting words in his mouth, putting words in all of our mouths.
00:33:19.000And so now, finally, something has shifted, and you see that with Elon, with David Sachs, with RFK, with Tulsi getting on board now, the independents, the Democrats are getting on board, the MAGA coalition, and suddenly MAGA with, it's got, also we all, we also have the Make America Healthy again.
00:33:43.000And so we got the big Maha going on now and suddenly there's this, there's a lot of life and we saw that with the conventions as well that, you know, the RNC was like a convention carnival atmosphere and the DNC was like totally cold and scripted.
00:34:44.000I think, obviously, he doesn't seem like he has a lot of appetite for it right now, though I think something he should do is hold a town hall.
00:34:51.000Hold a town hall where you tap into the same energy that Charlie's tapping into right now.
00:34:56.000You could do it in Western Pennsylvania.
00:34:58.000You can do it in one of these swing states, but where it's Trump, Kamala, and the people, where the people are the moderators.
00:35:05.000You call it the people's town hall and you actually let regular citizens be the ones who ask the questions.
00:35:11.000And you know, maybe you have some people there just to, just to help manage that, but you don't bring in these corporate moderators, have the people's moderators and a people's town hall with Trump and Kamala.
00:35:23.000Without the blocking and tackling being done by the defensive and offensive line in front of her, the mainstream media provided the last one.