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00:02:02.000And I know we've been staying in touch behind the scenes as you've been kind of processing everything that happened.
00:02:08.000First of all, you know, And by the way, we would have had you on immediately after, but you were going through something, and we wanted to give you space, and hopefully, you're feeling better now.
00:02:21.000For the audience that doesn't know, tell us what happened.
00:02:25.000And then we're going to get into some of the aftermath that we've been dealing with.
00:02:29.000And just for your own edification, we've got Harmeet Dillon coming on and we're going to be asking her about all of the legal proceedings and what progress is being made or needs to still be made.
00:02:42.000So that comes at the half hour mark of this hour.
00:03:29.000But basically, you know, I'm sure everybody's seen this.
00:03:31.000For those who haven't, I was at a national protest against ICE day and I happened to go to Minneapolis.
00:03:40.000I have been watching what's been happening there.
00:03:42.000I've been covering illegal immigration extensively for the last four years and didn't go when the, you know, major ICE protests were happening in January.
00:03:51.000And so, I figured I would kind of go check out the scene, go check out the Whipple Ice building and go cover this.
00:03:56.000And just kind of gauge where the protesters were at and what the scene was like.
00:04:01.000Now, in situations like this, I very much just conduct point and shoot observational journalism because a lot of the time these left wingers are very violent.
00:04:10.000And so I was there to do that, but it didn't matter.
00:04:20.000I was initially identified by William Scott Kelly, who is the same protester who was already arrested a couple months back for storming a church in Minneapolis.
00:04:28.000And shutting down the entire church service, resulting in children crying in fear because these violent protesters were in there screaming at people.
00:04:36.000He was the same guy that came up to me and identified me.
00:04:39.000He began badgering me with very hostile questions.
00:04:42.000At that point, I was still trying to defuse the situation and just do journalism.
00:04:46.000I was like, okay, well, talk to me about why you're here.
00:05:16.000And I did walk over to a portion of the fence where I was hoping police would see me and see the situation that was unfolding because I didn't want to have.
00:05:25.000To walk through a mob on my own because, again, typically in a mob situation where everyone is surrounding you, screaming at you, and like obviously hates you, trying to walk through them when they very clearly want to hurt you is not the best idea.
00:05:37.000So I was standing off to the side, kind of hoping that the cops would come and defuse the situation.
00:05:42.000So at that point, I was like, okay, I'm going to have to walk out because Diana Shrushko, we have a whole family here, Diana, Chris, and Paige Shrushko that committed this very violent assault.
00:05:52.000Other unnamed defendants as well who were swinging sex toys in my face and, you know, hitting me with them.
00:05:59.000But basically, these two, as you see on screen, were the ones that initially came up to me and started making a huge issue.
00:06:04.000And Chris and Paige had already body checked me and were screaming very violently at me.
00:06:57.000The first thing I see is Paige in front of me again.1.00
00:07:00.000I'm like, okay, these people are clearly not going to let me leave.
00:07:02.000And so I basically, I'm like trying to push my way out of the situation.
00:07:05.000Deanna and Paige then come and tackle me again.
00:07:08.000Now, this entire family has since continued to state that I was the aggressor the entire time.
00:07:14.000Chris states that he was protecting his family because I guess I was a very violent safety threat to this family, Andrew, as I was trying to leave.
00:07:23.000They have gone on an entire press tour.
00:07:25.000And I mean, the reason why it's taken me some time to even just come back on air and talk about this one, you know, I don't want to keep reliving it, but two, like we have to because these people aren't in jail.
00:07:47.000This is daughter Paige Ostrushko on social media.
00:07:50.000She said, So unbothered that I went from being assaulted by, and she has a toilet paper roll, that she claims she was assaulted, and the police to doxxed and trending on Twitter for a week, being sent threats constantly, rumors of my arrest to gambling at the casino free.
00:08:09.000So, these are the quality of people that we're dealing with here.
00:08:12.000And the brazenness and the audacity to say that they were assaulted by you when we've all seen the footage of you trying to get away from them and then consistently attacking you is really rich.
00:08:25.000I mean, that's a really, I mean, we have the footage.
00:08:31.000I don't know what they think they're going to get away with here, but maybe they're just banking on liberal judges, liberal prosecutors in Hennepin County.
00:08:38.000Does that seem to be the case, Savannah?
00:09:14.000And like I said, these people are still out free, which is just very frustrating to me because instead of sitting in jail after assaulting somebody who was doing nothing to them, these people are on a press tour attesting that they are not violent and that, again, they are the real victims here.
00:09:28.000We have some clips here we need to just play because I think people will be shocked when they realize just how, I don't know, offensive, obnoxious these people are, the Strusco family.
00:09:46.000I don't know if you guys are getting the same type of stuff that we're getting, and it's non stop.
00:09:51.000It's hundreds of phone calls a day, it's text messages, and them trying to get into all of our social media accounts and contacting our friends, our neighbors, our family.
00:10:04.000It's a little overwhelming and makes me second guess even living in this country, to be honest with you.
00:10:11.000Oh, so oh no, yeah, they're they feel bad that he pushed a woman, assaulted a woman violently.
00:10:21.000Had his whole family involved in the assault, and now he's the victim.
00:10:54.000You know, and primarily too, there's like a lot of people on the left that are like, yeah, don't attack women.
00:10:59.000And it's actually really funny because a lot of the left wing streamers that were there that hate me, they even put out statements immediately and they were like, yeah, we hate this girl.
00:11:08.000We hate everything she stands for, but she wasn't doing anything and we probably shouldn't put our hands on women.
00:11:13.000So it's like, if you're that extreme, I'm glad that we can at least come together on, you know, agreeing that it's bad to assault women when you're three times as much as a journalist in general.
00:11:27.000You know, I have a lot of problems with journalists.
00:11:30.000I think they're largely a, not you, Sav, but in general, journalists are annoying, so called journalists.
00:11:37.000And they do a lot of harm to this country, actually.0.98
00:11:39.000But, like, never in a million years would I think it's okay to go out on the street and then, you know, shove somebody to the ground, kick them, punch them, assault them, and get in their face with sex toys.0.98
00:11:49.000And, like, I mean, what a waste of a lot of journalists I do that to.0.99
00:11:52.000Well, yeah, you might want to, but you wouldn't.
00:11:57.000This is Paige, again, bragging about she's free, SOP4.
00:12:00.000She's currently walking free in Atari to everybody that thinks she's been arrested.0.97
00:12:11.000So she's just goading, she's just mocking law enforcement here.
00:12:15.000After I got a hold of these social media clips, because of course I've posted them because people are following along with this story, they want to make sure that justice is served.
00:12:23.000They ended up both Paige and her father making both of their social media accounts private because I think they realized that going on this press tour and gloating about how they're not being held responsible is a really bad look for them.
00:12:37.000They put this out, they immediately made all of their accounts even more private than they already were, so nobody.
00:12:42.000Could continue collecting again this evidence of them.
00:12:46.000And it's just so crazy, too, Andrew, because you know what?
00:12:48.000Shout out to these left wing streamers that do hate me, but they are the ones that did end up catching Chris, instructing his daughter to come assault me.
00:12:56.000And then they also caught Deanna after I had left the scene, admitting to tackling me to the ground and admitting that she ran away before the police could get her.
00:13:05.000Because, you know, as of now, there have been no charges referred for Deanna.
00:13:11.000And then it was only misdemeanor charges that were.
00:13:14.000By the sheriff's department for Chris and Paige as well.
00:13:17.000So we'll see what ends up happening with this.
00:13:20.000Like I said, this is all still ongoing, but at the end of the day, Andrew, it shouldn't take somebody who goes viral for justice to be served.
00:13:29.000And it's really frustrating to me that Hennepin County has been allowing this type of activity to take place for so long that the protesters think that this is their right to do.
00:13:37.000It's their right to assault people that they don't like.
00:13:39.000It's their right to assault people that they don't agree with, because keep in mind, I am one of the Many people, this has happened to in Minneapolis, in Minnesota, over even just the last six months, because this is what the DA's office allows.
00:13:53.000And it's very frustrating to me because I don't understand how our justice system has gotten so just diluted and destroyed to where this is the norm for people.
00:14:04.000And this whole family is still walking free.
00:14:07.000I mean, candidly, I mean, you see this in California, you see this in New York, Hennepin County is no different.
00:14:44.000We're infringing on their religious beliefs, really.
00:14:46.000Yeah, no, and these are lawless hellholes.
00:14:49.000And honestly, it's outposts of lawlessness right here in the United States of America.
00:14:53.000And it's incredibly infuriating because if you go back to where all of this started, it was really local law enforcement that allowed the protesters in the Minneapolis area to get out of control in the first place.
00:15:08.000They wanted to see Minneapolis explode into a war zone, and they got what they wanted.
00:15:12.000Sure, it cost them a couple dead vigilantes that were using their cars in the instance of Alex Preddy.
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00:19:18.000And what happened to Savannah is really outrageous and should never be permitted in any American city.
00:19:23.000But we have been seeing this kind of thing happening for years.
00:19:25.000And as you know, Andrew, before I joined the DOJ, I was a lawyer for many conservative journalists, including Andy Noh and others who were attacked in this manner by Antifa and other sort of these so called black box and anti fascist groups.
00:19:40.000So this recent thing that we're seeing with regard to ICE is just an outgrowth of all of that.
00:19:46.000Neville Singham and others are part of shadowy networks that fund these types of Protests in the United States that are really designed to disrupt our government.
00:19:57.000What I can tell you is as you know, we already have investigations going on in Minnesota regarding some of the characters there who are attacking our ICE and who are doing protests, so called protests.
00:20:07.000We've indicted 39 people for invading the city's church in St. Paul.
00:20:14.000One of the individuals in this mob who was egging on the attacks on Savannah appears to be one of the individuals involved in that matter.
00:20:21.000But you know, there's a line between speech and action.
00:20:27.000And so, what I can tell you is that we do have lawyers and investigators on the ground there who are looking into attacks on journalists and attacks on ICE.
00:20:38.000I can't say more until there may be a development in court, but please rest assured that protecting the First Amendment is incredibly important to this Department of Justice and also protecting our law abiding and patriotic ICE officers in doing their jobs is very important to us.
00:20:56.000Mob action like this is designed to intimidate both our law enforcement and also the journalists who seek to document these attacks.
00:21:05.000And it's important to America that we shut it down, not only in Minnesota, but everywhere we find it.
00:21:10.000We're committed to that at the Department of Justice.
00:21:12.000So, Harmi, I'm assured because I know you, kind of the subtext of what you're saying there.
00:22:14.000Then you have to take statements of other people and witnesses, look at the camera angles and all of that.
00:22:18.000And then there's pretty much case law that tells us there's a Brandenburg and there are other cases that tell us sort of the Dividing line between protected speech and incitement.
00:22:37.000When you talk about incitement, so I'm going to throw up a theoretical here.
00:22:41.000Hassan Piker has made a lot of news this week because he's talking about social murder and he's justifying the assassination of Brian Thompson.
00:23:42.000And by the way, we've got the SPLC news this week, which I'd love to have you opine on as well.
00:23:48.000Well, so this is not that hard of a question, actually.
00:23:52.000The standard requires that it be an incitement to imminent violence.
00:23:57.000And so the crowd situation, you know, that we are just describing vis a vis Savannah is much closer to incitement.0.96
00:24:05.000If the facts pan out, than Hassan Piker spewing his garbage on the internet.
00:24:13.000Because I don't think a court would find there to be, unless there is a circumstance where he's talking directly to an individual with a knife poised above a person's body, that that would be an imminent incitement to an imminent violence.
00:24:25.000And so I know that's unsatisfactory for people, but that's kind of what the Supreme Court has ruled.
00:24:33.000And it's over inclusive of speech and under inclusive of.
00:24:39.000You're just saying the standard is imminent, imminent violence.
00:24:42.000Yeah, so if a Todd Piker is standing in a mob and saying, that's, you know, fill in the blank, law enforcement official, get them, get them, and someone is standing next to them with a rock or a gun or a knife, that could be considered incitement to imminent violence.
00:25:09.000So, here's a headline when you were nominated for Assistant Attorney General.
00:25:15.000SPLC expresses concern over Harmeet Dillon's nomination.
00:25:20.000So, with all the news, I figured it was appropriate, Harmeet, to give you an opportunity to reflect on the indictments that were delivered this week.
00:25:30.000Well, you know, their history with me, I've commented on them going back to 2017.
00:25:34.000And when Jeff Sessions was the Attorney General here, he talked about their conduct, and I went on Fox News and talked about it as well.
00:25:42.000So, I've known about their shenanigans for years, and I've had many clients over the years, nonprofit organizations, Andy Noh is another one, who got onto their hate map and were characterized as hateful agents and entities.0.86
00:25:54.000And at the end of the story, where they're tagging me as being a horrible thing for civil rights because I'm not sufficiently good for black and brown people, I'm not the right kind of brown person, apparently, they say that their purpose in life is to get rid of white supremacy.
00:26:13.000And that kind of social constructs, when in fact, we now know they were creating the very thing that they claim to be fighting against, which is very good for business if you're in the hate mongering business against conservatives.
00:26:27.000And there was apparently an insufficient supply of hatred in our country on the right, so they had to manufacture it.
00:26:34.000It is a truly shocking story, and I tend to believe that this is only the tip of the iceberg.
00:26:38.000SPLC gets money laundered through various different channels.
00:26:43.000So, you know, you might see an Obama Foundation.
00:26:47.000Give money to some intermediary, such as Tides, Ford, and some others, and then they launder that into SPLC.
00:26:54.000And I believe there are probably plenty of others, much less prominent than SPLC, who are getting this kind of money.
00:27:00.000SPLC has a huge amount of money offshore, by the way, as well.
00:27:04.000So I'm sure my colleagues who are looking into money laundering and financial crimes are very interested in that.
00:27:13.000And I think we're just stretching the tip of the iceberg here.
00:27:17.000Yeah, so we have one minute before the break.
00:27:20.000Could there be additional things just against SPLC?
00:27:22.000I know they've had complaints against them for decades.
00:27:25.000People on the left have said the organization is a con.
00:27:29.000Morris Dees left under a cloud and they said this will totally be investigated and nothing was ever heard again.
00:27:35.000Is this maybe just the beginning of what we have against the SPLC?
00:27:38.000Could more be forthcoming in that case?
00:27:41.000Look, again, we never tried to tip our hand about what we're doing, but we've started with the type of crimes that eventually took down the mob in the United States.
00:27:53.000Elliot Ness kind of started out with tax fraud and then, you know, it went from there.
00:27:59.000And so sometimes things start out with what looks like a less sexy approach, but I think you start unraveling the thread and you're going to see a lot there.
00:28:08.000A lot of us on the right knew that there was shady stuff happening there.
00:28:12.000Nobody had the will until this DOJ, starting under Pam Bondi and now continuing under Todd Blanche's great leadership, to actually do something about it.
00:28:20.000Harmeet, you just broke some news right before coming on the air.
00:28:59.000He issued an executive order saying that he was opposed to, and the United States is opposed to excessive meddling by states, creating a patchwork of regulations regarding the very important industry of artificial intelligence where the United States has and needs to maintain its dominance.
00:29:16.000But the civil rights issue that we're confronting, and I'm doing this case together with my colleague Brett Shoemate in the civil division, so we're partnering on this.
00:29:24.000We are intervening in XAI's lawsuit that they filed two weeks ago to challenge Colorado's law that goes into effect in June of this year.
00:29:31.000And that law is problematic in a couple of different ways.
00:29:33.000First of all, it requires companies like XAI and the other big sort of algorithm companies that produce the content that so many of us rely on, good and bad.
00:29:47.000And they're challenging the law because the law requires companies like XAI to factor discriminatory elements into their algorithms.
00:29:59.000So they have to consider race and sex and ensure certain kinds of outputs.
00:30:04.000Incredibly dangerous because AI models are trained on a number of different inputs.0.98
00:30:10.000And if you're forcing them to inject woke ideology into their inputs and train them on models that are discriminatory, it's garbage in, garbage out.
00:30:18.000Anybody's learned computer programming, you know that.
00:30:20.000And so we're going to have, as we're dismantling DEI in the real world, we're going to have a shadow world where DEI is actually infecting our AI agents and models.
00:30:32.000And so that is really dangerous and bad.
00:30:34.000Secondly, the law is really bad because it exempts Companies that are doing discrimination on race, sex, gender, these other factors, if it's to quote unquote redress prior discrimination.0.58
00:30:46.000So, in other words, if you're doing discrimination for a good reason and you're, you know, painting every one of our founding fathers as African American, for example, that's okay.
00:30:56.000But if you're doing it in the opposite direction, that's suddenly illegal, $20,000 violations.
00:31:03.000And the problem with this type of a law, you might say, well, that's only Colorado, who cares, right?
00:31:07.000Well, the problem is, just like we have in California, when you have bad laws regarding Emissions and fuel standards, or what have you, suddenly companies have to race to the bottom and make their products compliant everywhere they want to do business.0.91
00:31:21.000So that means everyone has to have garbage AI.
00:31:27.000Kudos to XAI for stepping up to challenge this law.
00:31:31.000And the United States finds this case.
00:31:33.000And my boss, Todd Blanch, certified this morning that this is a case of national importance.
00:31:40.000And that allowed us in the Civil Rights and Civil Division to go into court.
00:31:45.000And filed these two claims regarding equal protection under the 14th Amendment of the Constitution.
00:31:50.000So, this is going to benefit all Americans, all people who use these algorithms, and it's going to benefit all of the companies in this incredibly important and innovative space that's important to the White House and it's important to all of us as we're learning to incorporate these tools into our daily lifestyles and our efficiency.
00:32:09.000We ought to be able to rely on them without this filter of wokeness and nonsense that has impacted every other aspect of our society.
00:32:17.000The earth is healing, we're getting rid of that in our universities, in our corporations, in our schools, and we cannot let it overcome the next generation of technology.
00:32:25.000So, obviously, this Colorado law is terrible.
00:32:28.000I wonder, are you guys also interested?
00:32:30.000We're seeing these AI models are used all over the place.
00:32:33.000People are using them to automatically sift through resumes, applications for things.
00:32:38.000They're being given a lot of autonomy.
00:32:40.000And even without Colorado's law, I think because of either the way they're designing these AIs or just because of what's being fed into them, There have been people who've done studies.
00:32:49.000They found, for example, the AIs, without being told to, will automatically value, for example, black people more than white people, gay people more than straight people.
00:32:59.000They'll value Palestinians more than Israelis.
00:33:04.000Is there interest at the DOJ in looking into this, in saying you're responsible if your AIs are engaging in discrimination of that sort, even if it's not to follow some Colorado law?
00:33:16.000Well, you know, it's very interesting that you asked that because one of the things that I do that's completely separate from this here at DOJ is we enforce certain employment laws.
00:33:25.000And for example, it's illegal for employers to discriminate against American citizens.
00:33:29.000And so when you see a lot of this H 1B preference in companies, that's what they're doing.
00:33:35.000They're discriminating against Americans on the basis of Americans' national origin.
00:33:38.000So, I had a case recently where we took this on, and what we found was that the company's defense was well, we used artificial intelligence to draft this job posting, and that's why it turned out that way.
00:33:51.000So, we humans at this company, this recruiting company, are not to blame.
00:33:57.000The law is if you use discriminatory tools, you as the employer are liable for the discriminatory impacts of those tools, whatever that tool is.
00:34:05.000And so, we actually have a great and robust civil rights edifice of laws.
00:34:10.000That allows people to go in and sue over these issues.
00:34:12.000So, I'm not sure extra law is needed on that, but certainly if we found or the EEOC found in terms of private employers in a different context that there was systematic discrimination happening by companies, usually large companies, because you try to make an example of larger employers, they would probably have to stop using those tools and the tools would then be reformed themselves by market forces.
00:34:34.000So, this is going to be a, it's like Pandora's box.
00:34:38.000There are a lot of great promises in AI, there's a lot of potential liability and it's, It's a little scary.
00:34:45.000And so, everyone who, like XAI, these other companies, Anthropic, they're responsible for putting guardrails on their products so that they aren't having end users violate the law.
00:34:55.000Well, you know, there's so much going on in the AI space that is going to create very interesting legal predicaments, both for the government and for these private employees.
00:35:05.000I mean, we've got a story, I think it was out of Florida, where a guy, you know, used ChatGPT to figure out how to kill somebody.
00:35:11.000And it told him, you know, to, I think it was the Florida, it was a Florida school shooting, right?
00:35:22.000And the prosecutors are saying, hey, if this was a living, breathing person on the other end, they would be an accomplice to this murder, to the shooting.
00:35:30.000You had another instance where somebody just committed suicide because I believe it was Claude basically encouraged the person to do it at the end.
00:35:38.000He became enamored and obsessed with Claude, the chatbot, and called it his queen and all this stuff.
00:35:44.000And then the chatbot encouraged him to kill himself.
00:35:46.000I mean, this whole area is going to be so fraught with.
00:35:52.000Anyways, I'm at least grateful, Harmeet, to you that you're in the position you are to go after the algorithms that are going to be basically pushing DEI on these answers.
00:36:03.000It's almost confirmation, woke confirmation bias that AI is engaging in.
00:36:08.000Harmeet Dillon, the Assistant Attorney General for the Department of Justice in the Civil Rights Division, and so much more.
00:36:16.000Anyways, Harmeet, it's always good to see you.
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00:38:22.000Danny found this, but I'll read it here.
00:38:25.000President Trump, this must have been at the start of the admin.
00:38:27.000President Trump assigned a new executive order expanding uranium mining, allowing for nuclear power plants to be built on federal land and commanding the Nuclear Regulatory Commission to rule on applications for new reactors within 18 months.
00:38:40.000Cheap energy is the lifeblood of a modern economy.
00:38:43.000The most important innovation of our time, AI, requires colossal amounts of energy.
00:38:48.000Nations that intentionally hobble themselves for the sake of green energy will be left behind.
00:38:54.000President Trump's America will not be left behind.
00:40:05.000He loved the idea of bringing manufacturing back to America.
00:40:09.000And you'll hear those things mentioned as buzzwords.
00:40:11.000But when you really dig into it, a lot of that just comes down to how much does it cost to produce energy in your country?
00:40:18.000And if you look at our biggest geopolitical rival, China, what do they do?
00:40:22.000They endlessly are building power plants.
00:40:24.000Go look at a chart, and it's just line is endlessly going up on the chart.
00:40:28.000And they build everything they build coal plants, they build solar plants, they build nuke plants, they are building every single thing you can imagine because they know.
00:40:37.000The more energy you have, the cheaper energy you have, that makes it way easier to set up a new factory that provides jobs and increases your national power.
00:40:46.000And when you look at Europe, which is in decline, a big reason is they've made it so electricity is so expensive, you can't run factories there anymore.
00:40:54.000So factories in Germany are shutting down because it costs a lot of electricity to build cars, it costs a lot of electricity to build anything, to manufacture ammonia, to make anything.
00:41:06.000And when you don't have the energy to do it, you stop doing it.
00:41:09.000And when you stop making things, you become a poorer.
00:41:13.000Well, and we see this in the UK as well, right?
00:41:16.000The UK, that's why President Trump keeps asking them, like, open up your drilling in the North Sea, because right now they're importing a bunch from Norway, a bunch of, I think, LNG from Norway.
00:41:26.000And, you know, if you, we talked about this actually on Thought Crime.
00:41:30.000So I know a lot of you guys are Thought Crime fans.
00:41:33.000So you can check it out there as well.
00:41:35.000But in the UK, they basically, if we added them as the 51st state, if you took it by GDP, they would be the, Poorest American state.
00:41:43.000They would be the 51st on the GDP, and apparently it's not even close.
00:41:47.000So, you know, you look at utility rates in the UK, they've skyrocketed in recent years, all over Europe.
00:41:54.000And it's just in the US, you look at how much electricity costs, and it's almost a perfect mirror for is this state doing well?
00:42:19.000Well, one nuclear plant can offset a whole bunch of wind farms.
00:42:23.000And so if you're worried about the environment, you're going to do way less environmental damage with a nuclear plant than you will with basically all the alternatives.
00:42:31.000And by the way, just to underscore the point, the modern technology is much, much improved over the old sort of like, you know, those big domes you'd see.
00:42:40.000Yeah, we don't have to worry about like another Chernobyl or anything.
00:42:57.000So, my question was this My cousin is an attorney for a university, and I was wondering if you are an insurance company, you don't take liability risks.
00:43:07.000And I was just wondering how all these colleges are getting insured when they have professors who are openly advocating for violence or Discrimination against conservative students.
00:43:21.000I mean, Blake is not a lawyer, but he plays one on TV sometimes.
00:43:24.000I would say my first answer is it's basically just tradition.
00:43:28.000A lot of norms and traditions, we just follow.
00:43:31.000I mean, you know, universities are not getting sued for that reason, right?
00:43:36.000They're sort of protected under the tenure rule, the free speech rule.
00:43:41.000But there are, I mean, listen, there's Dr. Antifa at Rutgers University who fled the United States for Spain.
00:43:47.000Because he wrote a book called the Antifa Handbook, which is talking about preemptive violence to accomplish political aims.
00:43:55.000So that would be a perfect example that he should be sued for incitement.
00:43:58.000We just had Harmeet Dillon on, you know, and basically she outlined why it's so hard to sue or indict against incitement because it has to be an imminent threat.
00:44:11.000Candidly, some of these laws, this jurisprudence is tricky when you're trying to sue somebody for this.
00:44:18.000But, yeah, I mean, it's a fair question, Blake.
00:44:20.000Would there be pressure on the insurance companies not to insure this because it's a liability risk?
00:44:25.000I mean, you'd think, but I mean, frankly, there's a general problem where there's not as many.
00:44:32.000First of all, I guess universities aren't always as vulnerable to lawsuits as you'd hope.
00:44:38.000It's often very difficult to sue the state for the amount that you should be able to.
00:44:45.000And then, of course, private institutions, they're often allowed to discriminate.
00:44:49.000Or even if we have laws that say you're not allowed to discriminate for a long time, there's effectively been a carve out for universities.
00:44:59.000They've just been allowed to get away with a lot of practices.
00:45:01.000That's, for example, Why was the Students for Fair Admissions Supreme Court case over affirmative action so important that Harvard, other Ivy League schools systematically discriminated against white applicants, against Asian applicants?
00:45:15.000The evidence was extremely flagrant that they were doing it.
00:45:18.000It's obviously against our Constitution and against our laws, and they were just allowed to do it because Ivy League schools are popular, Ivy League schools are rich and influential.
00:45:28.000They're kind of allowed to shape the way the law is enforced, regardless of what the law says.
00:45:36.000Change those norms and enforce those norms.
00:45:38.000That's one reason I'm very glad the Trump administration has bullied these Ivy League schools a bit over this.
00:45:44.000They've gone after Columbia and some other schools because we actually need to set the long term standard that, yeah, anti conservative discrimination won't be tolerated by our government, anti white, anti male, anti straight.
00:45:56.000We need to basically say, yeah, when the law said that discrimination is not allowed, that's not some one way street.
00:46:03.000It actually needs to apply to everyone.
00:46:05.000And I'm very glad that the administration has made a priority of that.
00:46:08.000I can't speak specifically to the insurance question.
00:46:10.000Yeah, I mean, Listen, they wouldn't insure them if they felt like it was going to be a loser.
00:46:15.000And I think universities have a lot of protections in place.
00:47:29.000And so we just went over to their offices and they stuck us in like an office and gave us a microphone and a Zoom recorder.
00:47:35.000And it was like, okay, I guess this is what we do.
00:47:40.000And so, yeah, Charlie and I talked about what we want to talk about and kind of built a show just sitting, he and I, in a little office room in Los Angeles and made the first episode.
00:47:54.000And then I think our next episode was an interview with Don Jr.
00:50:44.000You know, there's a lot of people in the base that don't understand this dynamic, but Chip is a rock rib conservative that has come to some disagreements and friction points with the administration.
00:51:40.000He's certainly an alpha, though, and he'll, you know, he'll let you know if he disagrees with you.
00:51:45.000I feel like if you have a lawmaker who has been, 100% on Trump's side in every single dispute, there's actually probably something a little off with him.
00:51:53.000Because, you know, Trump is unpredictable and mercurial.
00:51:56.000And at that point, you kind of have to suspect this person might just be out for themselves.
00:52:00.000They might just be trying to enhance their own career.
00:52:04.000Whereas with Chip, you can sense he is really in it for the principles and the values that we care about.
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00:53:58.000We are halfway through our Ask Us Anything.
00:54:00.000We see a lot of you in the chat that aren't asking questions.
00:54:25.000Before I get to my questions, I can actually give you a little information on your first caller about that nuclear energy.
00:54:30.000Look up Eastman Park in Kodak here in Rochester, New York.
00:54:34.000They're talking about putting a nuclear power plant in it, it's a new, updated one.
00:54:39.000So it's kind of something different for the area because we need energy in New York State because they decided to go to solar and wind and it's not doing well.
00:54:46.000So shifting to my questions, I heard Harmy.
00:54:50.000At the end of the first segment, talk about AI and jobs and everything.
00:54:58.000Should companies be asking it when you go online and submit an application at the very end?
00:55:02.000Please tell if you're male, female, or other, what your race is.
00:55:06.000Should they be asking those questions?
00:55:08.000Because you're not really finding the best qualified candidates when you ask those questions.
00:55:14.000You're kind of like looking for a quota to fill.
00:55:16.000And is AI now going to be used to start doing that to fill quotas with companies?
00:55:23.000Well, I think what Harmid's lawsuit is regarding is the.
00:55:27.000Bias in the answers and the data that's going in, garbage in, garbage out.
00:55:31.000So they're basically trying to make sure that the answers that are provided by AI companies in the state of Colorado, at least, that they are sufficiently woke, sufficiently expressive of underrepresented minority groups, right?
00:55:46.000So I think that's specifically what that particular lawsuit is about.
00:55:50.000But a lot of the AI companies based in Silicon Valley, in California, I can tell you, they have requirements on your board.0.72
00:55:57.000You have to have a certain number of like, Minority folks on your board.0.81
00:56:00.000You can't have just straight white male Christians.
00:56:04.000So there already are DEI requirements in certain states where these AI companies are operating, but the Colorado lawsuit seems to be specifically about the algorithm itself, the DEI algorithm.
00:56:19.000Well, what I would note is I feel with modern AI, there's almost new, it's not even just the specific stuff they ask.
00:56:27.000So you mentioned, yeah, on a job application, if they're asking if you're male or female or what your race is.
00:56:33.000But with AI, there's so much potential that we might not even be able to gauge.
00:56:37.000Like the AI, when they're advanced enough, they might, you know, you put in your address and to any one of us an address is a random thing.0.91
00:56:45.000But the AI has the capacity to go, oh, yeah, well, that address is in a 100% black neighborhood.0.58
00:56:50.000So we already know this person's race just based on that.
00:56:52.000Or it can know, oh, that name, that name is very likely to be from this person.
00:56:57.000Look, it cross-reference other online.
00:57:12.000There's a guy, a blogger, Arctotherium, who he has a Substack post where he just takes all the different AI models and he's asking them to rank resumes or he'll just straight up ask them, weight the value of these different lives based on these different traits.
00:57:33.000Are they Palestinian, Israeli, Chinese, and so on?
00:57:35.000He'll even ask them to do it in different languages.
00:57:38.000And when you do different languages, you'll get different weights.
00:57:41.000So, some languages it'll come out more egalitarian, but then in English, it's coming out more biased.
00:57:46.000And this is all without being told to do it.
00:57:48.000It's that they've been fed in all this information, all this data.
00:57:53.000And in Western culture for the past half century, we've had a lot of propaganda, you know, white people bad, Israel bad, different groups bad, other groups good.
00:58:05.000And they've gotten the message oh, well, some lives actually matter more than others.
00:58:45.000Not so much, okay, if Dario Amadei wants to go and add.
00:58:50.000Crime stop to his AI, at least it's blatant and obvious he's doing it.
00:58:54.000I'm much more worried about AI machines that just have bias in them because we fed them every single piece of text we've ever produced and we just let the dice fall as they may and they end up with wildly biased outcomes.
00:59:07.000Yeah, and there'll be like crime stats where you like find black crime statistics and it won't give you the answer and you have to continually be like, no, it's there, find it.
00:59:14.000And then it eventually finds it, but it like codes itself so that it doesn't want to give you the stats until you really push it.0.71
00:59:26.000With the SPLC issue that has come out this week, are we actually going to see anyone that has donated money that knew what they were doing possibly arrested, or any politician that's gotten money from it?
00:59:40.000Because it seems like we know all these things are happening, but they kind of get stalled or they take too long.
00:59:46.000Well, again, you don't want to get too frustrated because I think the desire for immediate results often leads to half baked cases, it leads to screwing things up.
00:59:58.000If you want an example, this didn't even succeed, but it caused a lot of damage.
01:00:02.000The left wanted to take out the NRA because they were an effective gun rights lobby.
01:00:06.000And so the New York AG's office, they did this at the state level because they knew federally we can lose the White House, but we'll never lose New York state government.
01:00:14.000So they made a left wing get the NRA office at the New York AG's office and they just built the case over years.
01:00:21.000It was basically a decade long process to try to bring it down.
01:00:25.000And I think it would behoove us to try to create.0.88
01:00:28.000We have a bit of that going in Texas, but we know Texas is a somewhat purplish state.
01:00:33.000I'd love it if in a state like Tennessee or Missouri as well, we should expand our state AG offices so they're capable of more long range work.
01:00:42.000But back to your original question first, we should be happy they are going against the SPLC.
01:00:46.000This will cause a lot of damage to the organization, even if they don't fully dissolve it.
01:00:51.000You can do a lot with a good sustained investigation.
01:00:54.000Technically, the claim right now is that they were defrauding their donors.
01:01:11.000Now, it is possible some people were aware of this.
01:01:14.000If they can find communications within the organization, for example, they were setting up these shell groups to disguise that these donations were happening.
01:01:23.000If they find specific people were ordering this and explaining why they were doing it, they might get hit.
01:01:57.000I just keep coming back to this, but this guy in a video, the SBLC, Mark Potock, that's what his name was, had a graphic on the back of his wall during an interview he did tracking the decline of the white population in the United States as well as.
01:02:13.000Is how many foreigners were moving into Europe?
01:02:16.000I mean, this is a really bad group that needs to be held accountable.
01:02:20.000So, whether the donors get it exactly is less interesting to me.
01:02:25.000Of course, I'm open to it, would love that, but I just want to see them completely defanged.
01:02:30.000Their influence must be tarnished completely forever, permanently.
01:02:35.000And they have almost an $800 million endowment that also needs to be taken a look at, I will tell you.
01:02:42.000So, the SBLC said the Great Replacement was a conspiracy theory.
01:02:45.000While they were tracking the metrics of the great replacement, I want everybody to kind of internalize that.
01:03:27.000We don't always see every single email live, so that's one way.
01:03:30.000But yeah, also if you can't join by voice, join the call and you can submit a text question.
01:03:35.000We've had a few where they say, I can't speak right now, but here's my text question.
01:03:38.000That's the most consistent way to make sure we see it because we have Danny always monitoring the Zoom call and he sees everything that's in it.
01:03:48.000Okay, my main question for the day was I would really love to try to go out to Arizona and help with ballot chasing.
01:03:57.000I've never done anything like that, but listening to Charlie and then y'all talk all the time, I really would like to get involved, and there's nothing like that in my area.
01:04:07.000I live in a pretty red state, and that's great, but I really want to go out and help if I can.
01:05:54.000Also, I will note the turning point, we have the app, of course, and you can use that to.
01:05:59.000Text people, call people, send postcards without traveling.
01:06:03.000And so that's a way to get engaged at a distance.
01:06:05.000Obviously, the in person stuff is the highest value, but that is a way you can get involved even if you're in a deep red state that's not being contested.0.53
01:06:12.000Well, and what's cool about when you volunteer, actually, we book out these hotels so you take advantage of the hotel blocks.
01:06:21.000So we bring you here and then we train you and then we send you out and then you have actual access to staff to help you if you have questions or, you know, Confusion as things come up, talking points.
01:06:31.000So it's a great resource that we're able to provide for you when you do come out and volunteer.
01:06:35.000So I totally recommend you take that up.
01:07:10.000So, with that, the SPLC was one of the biggest players.
01:07:13.000You know, we had them involved with censoring conservatives, you know, on the tech platforms for about a decade before Elon finally bought Twitter.
01:07:23.000What are some of the other groups that were involved in that?
01:07:25.000Maybe potentially involved in stoking, you know, violence like the SPLC was that the DOJ can get their sites on?
01:07:38.000The ADL is definitely a big one because the ADL has.
01:07:42.000Basically, done they've been involved in essentially shakedowns where they've encouraged ad boycotts and then reached out to organizations with basically like, you know, we could overcome this arrangement, you know, we could maybe come to some sort of new relationship that's basically support our cause, give us money, that sort of thing.
01:08:00.000Anyone involved in those tech boycotts that they really ramped up, that would be like Color of Change, which is the ad boycotts for conservative groups, CARE, the pro-Islamo group.0.68
01:10:06.000My question is How would you gracefully approach a family member who takes every opportunity to criticize your Christian and conservative values and political beliefs?
01:11:19.000I mean, here's the thing with family, it's tough.
01:11:23.000You got to love your family, but sometimes you got to have boundaries with your family too.
01:11:26.000And it's okay to put those up in a loving way to protect yourself, protect your family, protect your kids, and maybe just set some ground rules for engagement in the future.
01:11:35.000Questions are good, they don't often don't expect to be put on defense.