The Charlie Kirk Show - Distorted Religion—LIVE from Awaken Church

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00:01:11.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:01:13.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses.

00:01:15.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:01:18.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:01:22.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:01:23.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:01:24.000 His spirit, his love of this country.

00:01:26.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created.

00:01:31.000 Turning point USA. 0.65

00:01:32.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

00:01:41.000 That's why we are here.

00:01:47.000 Thank you, Charlie.

00:01:48.000 Thank you for taking time away.

00:01:49.000 You're a daddy now.

00:01:50.000 I am.

00:01:51.000 Praise God.

00:01:52.000 How old is beautiful little Gigi? 1.00

00:01:54.000 Seven months.

00:01:55.000 She is seven months old and cute as a botany.

00:01:58.000 So beautiful.

00:02:01.000 How has that impacted you?

00:02:02.000 Oh, it changes everything.

00:02:04.000 And if you thought I was radical before, nothing radicalizes you like fatherhood.

00:02:12.000 I'll tell you what.

00:02:13.000 And what do I mean by that?

00:02:17.000 It not only gives you increased purpose and increased meaning, but also, you know, in the culture fight that we're in right now, so much involves children.

00:02:29.000 There's a reason for that.

00:02:30.000 We could talk about that.

00:02:32.000 And it's all throughout the scriptures of evil tyrants filled with dark spirits going after the firstborn, going after children.

00:02:40.000 And when you have a child of your own, it motivates you to want to win and crush these evil people more so than ever before.

00:02:53.000 Thank you.

00:02:54.000 Well, thank you so much for taking time away from beautiful Erica and beautiful Gigi.

00:02:59.000 I was looking forward to this for quite some time.

00:03:01.000 We're also going to Awaken Utah next week, which I'm really excited about that.

00:03:06.000 And, you know, Jürgen, both you and Leanne deserve such great credit.

00:03:10.000 You know, I speak at, I really mean this.

00:03:14.000 You're being led very well here.

00:03:16.000 You are.

00:03:17.000 And boldly and courageously and biblically, you really are.

00:03:25.000 You're very, very kind.

00:03:26.000 Thank you.

00:03:27.000 Thank you.

00:03:30.000 I mean that.

00:03:31.000 It really is a time where we're seeing the separation of people that are courageous and cowards.

00:03:36.000 And again, I speak all across the country.

00:03:39.000 And one of the common questions I get, Charlie, where do I find a pastor?

00:03:43.000 I never get that question from people in San Marcos.

00:03:46.000 I just don't.

00:03:49.000 And we have some other good friends here, Pastor Greg Denham and some other good pastors that are fighting.

00:03:53.000 Great people.

00:03:54.000 Beautiful people.

00:03:55.000 Beautiful, magnificent warriors.

00:03:57.000 But there is something really special about what God is doing in California.

00:04:01.000 I know it seems overwhelming.

00:04:03.000 I know there's so much, but it's amazing when I visit some of these other states, even though they might seem freer politically, they do not have a spirit of boldness or action or community that you have at this church.

00:04:17.000 You have a lot to be thankful for.

00:04:18.000 You have a lot to be thankful for at this church.

00:04:24.000 Thank you.

00:04:25.000 You know, the Bible says that the righteous are as bold as a lion.

00:04:29.000 And, you know, sadly, we didn't, you know, we're seeing the righteous beginning to rise.

00:04:34.000 And when the righteous rise, the lion roars.

00:04:37.000 I've got some questions.

00:04:39.000 Is that okay if I jump together?

00:04:40.000 You can do whatever you want.

00:04:41.000 Yes. 0.99

00:04:42.000 Well, you know, whenever the media prints something, I always believe the opposite is true right now because they're freaking liars. 0.92

00:04:51.000 So they tried to print a couple of hit pieces about how Christianity is dying in America and people are leaving the church in droves. 0.79

00:04:58.000 That's certainly not the experience from the pastors that I'm talking to.

00:05:02.000 Christianity to me is rising in America, but I heard you on a podcast talking about the five different religions that are seeking to replace Christianity.

00:05:15.000 Can you open that up for?

00:05:16.000 Yeah, so there's, we are all inheritors of a Christian tradition, whether we like it or not, and we should be so thankful for it.

00:05:24.000 Things that we take for granted that your secular, non-religious friends would act as if is common sense, protection of children, for example, or natural rights, the idea of borders, the idea of private property. 0.56

00:05:36.000 These all come from a biblical Christian inheritance.

00:05:39.000 And so as Christianity has become less popular in America, and certain churches are seeing church attendance go down, this one's increasing because you're not woke and you're biblical and you have great leaders.

00:05:51.000 But in certain churches, they are seeing it go down.

00:05:55.000 And that's important to note that we have a God-sized shaped hole in our heart, and something will always seek to fill it.

00:06:03.000 And so if you read the first five books of Moses, Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy, through a very specific lens, understanding the context of which it was written was a refutation of pagan, polytheistic, river civilization fake religions.

00:06:18.000 Fake religions are the norm. 1.00

00:06:20.000 There's only one true way, and that is Jesus Christ.

00:06:23.000 We call that Christianity.

00:06:25.000 Now, the way that we teach our children, though, it's as if, oh, there's Christians, then there's non-religious.

00:06:32.000 This idea of not believing in God is a hyper-radical, kind of new phenomenon.

00:06:38.000 The norm is actually believing in fake gods.

00:06:42.000 And so this idea of saying, I don't believe in God, is very modern, and it's actually not very sustainable.

00:06:48.000 Atheism is a problem, but a bigger problem is somebody that creates a fake God or a fabricated version of Christianity, uses some of the worship elements, tithing, offering, community, atonement, promise of the afterlife, appropriates Christian promises and puts them under a fake religion.

00:07:09.000 That's actually much more attractive and actually will grow a lot more.

00:07:14.000 This idea of convincing wide swaths of people that there is not a divine order or there isn't somebody in charge or some reason for existence actually is probably going to fall flat on its face.

00:07:24.000 I'm not saying it's totally unpopular, but the greater threat is the five fake religions that are filling the void. 1.00

00:07:30.000 I did a whole speech on this earlier in the week.

00:07:33.000 I'm writing a long essay on it.

00:07:34.000 I might even write a book on it because I really haven't heard many pastors lean into this.

00:07:39.000 Because if we then acknowledge that Christianity needs to get more popular, I think we can agree with that.

00:07:45.000 What are the threats up against it?

00:07:47.000 Well, let's go to one that is really dominating our time, earth worship, otherwise known as environmentalism.

00:07:53.000 This is not new, by the way.

00:07:54.000 So if we were to say, Charlie, can you describe God, the God of the Bible, to a layman, someone that doesn't understand?

00:08:02.000 God is many things.

00:08:03.000 Here's the best way I could describe it.

00:08:05.000 God is above nature.

00:08:07.000 God is moral.

00:08:08.000 God is personal, and God is holy.

00:08:09.000 Those are four characteristics of the God of the Bible.

00:08:12.000 You can get to know God.

00:08:14.000 God is holy, not profane.

00:08:16.000 Also, God is moral.

00:08:17.000 God will tell you what is right and what is wrong.

00:08:19.000 God makes judgments, but also God is not in nature.

00:08:24.000 This was a profound moral breakthrough of Genesis, especially.

00:08:29.000 Because prior to the Hebrews, prior to the people of Israel, prior to the beginning of the truth developing in written form, God was supposed to be found in nature.

00:08:39.000 You worship the sun.

00:08:40.000 You worship the mountain.

00:08:41.000 You worship the river, that you go seek into nature to go find God.

00:08:45.000 The argument made in Genesis, the truth says, no, no, no, that God is so powerful, he spoke nature into existence.

00:08:53.000 That you do not worship nature, you worship God who created nature.

00:08:57.000 That is a completely different way of viewing our existence.

00:09:03.000 Now, why does this matter?

00:09:04.000 The environmentalists that are really earth worshipers are doing the very same thing that Gnostic Hermeticists did 2,000 years ago, where they say the world is about to end, and the tree, the delta smelt, the river, the cacti, they matter more than man.

00:09:26.000 So there's a hierarchy, okay?

00:09:28.000 Nature, man, God.

00:09:31.000 We are above nature and below God.

00:09:34.000 It's very important.

00:09:35.000 The radical environmentalists do not believe that.

00:09:38.000 They believe we are the polluters of nature.

00:09:41.000 Now, one of the things that drives me nuts is when people say, well, Charlie, it's a natural thing to do.

00:09:49.000 You can't prevent somebody's nature.

00:09:51.000 We must understand nature, but civilization, by its definition, is us trying to restrain our nature.

00:09:58.000 I'll give you a great example.

00:10:00.000 You must teach a child manners at dinner.

00:10:03.000 Then nature is to be rude and to burp and to belch and to the idea of manners, where does that come from? 0.97

00:10:11.000 It's kind of a silly example, I think.

00:10:12.000 It's out of the respect for others because of human equality, that they do not want to hear your bodily noises.

00:10:19.000 They want you to act in a certain code of conduct.

00:10:23.000 Now, but if we were to say that nature matters, we would never have rules, customs, codes, or traditions that would restrain your own pre-programmed way of conduct either at a dinner table or otherwise.

00:10:37.000 Now, when you say that God is above nature, this is very important.

00:10:41.000 Nature is not moral.

00:10:43.000 Nature is not holy.

00:10:44.000 And nature is not personal.

00:10:46.000 If you go out in the woods, you will not find any three of those things.

00:10:50.000 And so one of the fake religions, it's so attractive to young people because God did such an amazing job of creating nature.

00:10:57.000 It's the closest thing they can try to find to the divine.

00:11:01.000 But the unattractive element or the pernicious element, the evil element, is that it is inherently anti-human.

00:11:09.000 Because when there is a decision that needs to be made, they will say we must reduce the earth's population.

00:11:15.000 We must reduce human activity to try to save nature.

00:11:18.000 So that's one of five.

00:11:19.000 I can keep going, Juergen, on that.

00:11:20.000 But earth worship is one that dominates our time.

00:11:23.000 The second one that I think is probably the most dangerous and the most widespread is the religion of anti-racism or the cult of diversity.

00:11:31.000 This is largely, this is the most dangerous of all five in the immediate.

00:11:36.000 And so how does this manifest?

00:11:38.000 This manifests in a lot of different ways.

00:11:40.000 Hyper-focused on race, black-only dormitories, Grand Valley State University, for example, Columbia University. 0.70

00:11:48.000 They have black-only graduation ceremonies now, Jurgen, where they do not allow whites to go to these graduation ceremonies. 0.77

00:11:55.000 And what's so perplexing about the religion of anti-racism is that this is not being led by Hispanics or blacks.

00:12:04.000 That the cleric, the people, the clergy of the religion of anti-racism are white liberal suburban wine moms. 0.56

00:12:15.000 And that's what's so strange about it, right?

00:12:19.000 Is that this is not being driven by your average middle-class black American.

00:12:24.000 These are people that reject Christianity, engage in secularism, realize they're empty, find something that looks like a religion, and their meaning then is to hate themselves, and they think they can atone for it by donating to BLM or apologizing for how they look.

00:12:44.000 That gives them almost a quasi-religious experience.

00:12:47.000 If you dive into the BLM code of conduct, they basically have taken Christianity and they totally, they put it through a lens. 0.65

00:12:56.000 They say, okay, we're still going to meet.

00:12:57.000 We're still going to tithe.

00:12:58.000 We're still going to have offerings.

00:12:59.000 We're still going to say you have original sin.

00:13:02.000 You see, the cult of diversity and the religion of anti-racism takes this idea of original sin.

00:13:07.000 They just say the original sin is not the garden.

00:13:09.000 The original sin is your melanin content.

00:13:13.000 The original sin is how you look.

00:13:15.000 So they take all these elements of Christianity and they pervert it. 0.97

00:13:18.000 And here's what's so dangerous.

00:13:20.000 This is why I think it's the most dangerous, is that it's the one that people are the least willing to fight on.

00:13:26.000 If I go through the five, you'll realize that some are, wow, this is the one that paralyzes people.

00:13:31.000 And they do it through the weaponization of name-calling.

00:13:34.000 And more so than any other time in American history, have we seen good people that are afraid to act because of a name that they might be called.

00:13:44.000 It is unprecedented.

00:13:45.000 We have never seen so many people that know something is evil happening around them.

00:13:50.000 And the cost is being called something they wish they would not be called.

00:13:54.000 Racist, bigot. 0.92

00:13:55.000 Let me be very clear. 0.99

00:13:57.000 Racism and bigotry is mostly coming from the left.

00:13:59.000 However, if you are a racist or a bigot, I hope you guys find help with that.

00:14:04.000 But you're probably not because we have a supply and demand problem for racism and bigotry in America.

00:14:09.000 We are so unbelievably not racist.

00:14:12.000 When you see a hate crime hoax, most of the time, it's a hoax of somebody that is actually trying to create racism out of nowhere.

00:14:19.000 We are such a decent, not racist country that the incentive structure is to fake your own hate crime.

00:14:30.000 I'm sorry, Jürgen, you can interrupt me at any time.

00:14:30.000 So that's the second one.

00:14:33.000 Okay.

00:14:33.000 I'm loving this.

00:14:34.000 Okay.

00:14:35.000 This is like Bible College 101.

00:14:37.000 Yeah.

00:14:37.000 So, well, I think it's important because pastors and pre-Christians, you must know the religions you're competing against, right?

00:14:44.000 And so anyway, that's the second one, the cult of diversity and the religion of anti-racism.

00:14:49.000 The third of which is a very broad one, but it applies directly to the trans thing, which is the religion of tolerance.

00:14:55.000 This is one that I see, this is probably the most widespread in weak Christian churches, right?

00:15:03.000 Where they say we must be tolerant of others.

00:15:06.000 That is not correct.

00:15:07.000 You could be compassionate and loving.

00:15:09.000 You should never tolerate evil, period.

00:15:13.000 You should never tolerate evil.

00:15:20.000 In fact, Psalm 97, 10, if you love God, you must hate evil.

00:15:26.000 That hating evil actually shows how much you love the divine.

00:15:30.000 The religion of tolerance gives us insane pathological ideas that are institutionalized into our culture, institutionalized into our system and our code of conduct, where good people know it's wrong and they do nothing because they say they must be tolerant.

00:15:46.000 For example, Thomas, the swimmer, that competes and wins a NCAA championship as a man against other women, and we say we must do nothing.

00:15:56.000 Where track championship after track championship are being won by biological men competing against women, and so, and not just competing, but winning. 0.70

00:16:05.000 And they're bullying them, and they're antagonistic, and they're narcissistic, and they're cheaters, and they're all those things.

00:16:11.000 And so, some, you know, criticism I receive is, well, Charlie, aren't you a Christian?

00:16:15.000 Don't you love that person?

00:16:17.000 Of course we do.

00:16:18.000 That person's made in the image of God.

00:16:20.000 We should have compassion for that person.

00:16:24.000 However, the question is then, what do you do with somebody that is suffering with a mental delusion?

00:16:32.000 If somebody shows up at the airplane ticket counter and says, I have an imaginary friend, I demand two seats on a plane.

00:16:40.000 You would say, well, I need to charge you for two seats.

00:16:42.000 No, no, no, it's my truth.

00:16:43.000 It's actually I'm a dual personality. 0.99

00:16:45.000 You'd say you're insane. 0.99

00:16:46.000 If someone is anorexic and says, I need liposuction, you'd say, no, no, you're suffering under a mental delusion. 0.97

00:16:53.000 If somebody says, I'm offended every single time I see other people eat in public, do we stop eating in public?

00:16:59.000 Do we now reaccommodate society for other people's mental struggles or issues?

00:17:03.000 What we are living through is that we now have to change our customs, our code of beliefs, our behaviors for people that are personally struggling with something.

00:17:15.000 That is evil, everybody.

00:17:17.000 That is wrong.

00:17:18.000 It is the tyranny of the minority. 0.61

00:17:20.000 And we're seeing this all over.

00:17:22.000 And so the religion of tolerance tells us that we worship this idea of tolerance because it's really, I think I'm a good person religion, when in reality, you are weak.

00:17:34.000 You're weak when you see the strong that are willing to crush the weak.

00:17:39.000 And that is the question of a society.

00:17:41.000 Are the strong willing to use their power to protect those that don't have as much strength?

00:17:45.000 Only Christianity mandates the strong to use their power to protect those that are not as powerful.

00:17:51.000 That is a uniquely Christian principle.

00:17:53.000 Going back to what I talked about, nature, though, if you look at nature, what does nature tell you?

00:17:58.000 That the strong get stronger and the weak die.

00:18:01.000 The religion of Christianity says, no, no, no, no. 0.71

00:18:04.000 We stand up for the least of these in our society.

00:18:06.000 We stand up for those that can't defend themselves.

00:18:10.000 Okay.

00:18:11.000 Number four is the worship of power.

00:18:15.000 This one is very dangerous.

00:18:17.000 There's several examples of this, mostly in our political elite.

00:18:21.000 These are people that have made it their life's purpose to dominate others.

00:18:26.000 I will get to Fauci in the final one because he could qualify there, but he really is the archbishop of a different religion.

00:18:34.000 I'm going to instead, I've talked about this religion before at this church, but I'll expand on it.

00:18:38.000 I'm actually going to go more micro than macro because I could talk about James Comey and I could talk about Andy McCabe and I could talk about Mayorkis and people that worship power.

00:18:47.000 But a different subcategory of the population actually worship power and all of us have experienced it.

00:18:53.000 They find their purpose, their meaning, their drive in being able to terrorize others.

00:18:58.000 We call them micro tyrants. 1.00

00:19:00.000 So the more stupid rules you have, the more stupid people you need to enforce the stupid rules because good people refuse to enforce stupid rules. 1.00

00:19:09.000 So during the lockdowns, during the COVID-19 tyranny, when we had all these rules, all of a sudden an emergence of a new subgroup, an undercurrent we never knew existed, of people that find their religious significance in enforcing whether or not you're wearing your mask correctly, right? 1.00

00:19:28.000 And these are people, Starbuck baristas, who were never ran for elected office.

00:19:33.000 We've never knew them before.

00:19:34.000 They've never had to really be in a position of power for any other reason, except they happen to work in Starbucks. 0.99

00:19:41.000 But because a silly, stupid rule all of a sudden came out of nowhere, they look around. 0.99

00:19:46.000 They're like, well, someone has to enforce it. 1.00

00:19:47.000 We're going to have this 19-year-old North African lesbian studies major from San Diego State University have all this power to police my breathing when I'm trying to get a cold brew. 1.00

00:19:58.000 And you go and you try to pick up the cold brew, and your mask is a little bit down. 0.85

00:20:05.000 And that person, she, whatever pronouns that person uses, ridiculous, what's happening in our society, this person gets off and is excited about enforcing the dumb rule because they become unbelievably important for the first time in their life. 0.54

00:20:27.000 That's a mic drop moment. 0.93

00:20:34.000 When, if Christianity was in that person's life, that rule would not be as important because they would look at themselves as a son or a daughter of the divine. 0.52

00:20:44.000 That rule would then be looked at completely differently, not as a way to exert power or authority, but instead as, well, that's probably a cruel way to treat another person made in the image of God, right?

00:20:54.000 So the religion of power is very attractive, as Christianity is not as popular. 0.91

00:20:59.000 Okay, the fifth religion is really the religion of scientism.

00:21:03.000 And that's where Fauci could be the archbishop.

00:21:06.000 He's in both the religion of power and the religion of scientism.

00:21:09.000 Very important.

00:21:10.000 Never was it about trusting the science.

00:21:13.000 It was about trusting the scientists that they liked over the last couple of years.

00:21:18.000 Those are two completely different things.

00:21:21.000 And the religion of scientism has been around for over 100 years.

00:21:26.000 The entire fourth branch of government really came to be with this idea of the council of experts, that there are people that know better than you, that committees that you'll never come in touch with can meet privately and they're going to make decisions and they'll be able to get our society closer towards a utopia.

00:21:45.000 This came from Woodrow Wilson.

00:21:46.000 There's a long tradition here.

00:21:48.000 I don't need to bore you with all the details, but we've seen how dangerous that religion of scientism is able to be enforced.

00:21:55.000 But what was even more disappointing is not just the people that enforce it-Francis Collins, Walensky, Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Moderna, Johnson, and Johnson.

00:22:05.000 Is that the religion of scientism could actually be more broadly into really kind of the idolatry of experts is another way to put it, which is the experts have told us to do this, even though you know the rule is so silly. 0.99

00:22:21.000 Or you know the rule again is stupid. 0.98

00:22:23.000 Again, so we live through this. 0.99

00:22:25.000 And again, scientists, well, accurate historians are going to go back in time, the ones that have any sort of courage to find the truth, and they're going to be perplexed.

00:22:34.000 They're going to say, wait a second, help me understand this.

00:22:36.000 So you lock down all of society and then you allow people to go on airplanes and you hyper-enforce the mask policy, except, of course, when they're eating or drinking, right?

00:22:48.000 Because when they're eating or drinking, the virus is just in complete suspense in the air.

00:22:52.000 It stops, right?

00:22:54.000 And that if you're not eating or drinking, you have to wear the mask properly.

00:22:59.000 And you could do that at 35,000 feet with 350 people packed like sardines, but the restaurants are closed in Newark, New Jersey, and the restaurants are closed in Los Angeles, the two cities you're flying from, but shut up and trust the science.

00:23:12.000 And you really have to wonder: is it actually about science?

00:23:16.000 And this is what's so important.

00:23:17.000 We as Christians must understand the heritage of modern science came from Bible-believing Christians, but it changed. 0.94

00:23:24.000 I'm going to tell you how it changed.

00:23:26.000 Sir Francis Bacon invented the scientific method.

00:23:29.000 Sir Isaac Newton wrote more about biblical prophecy in Isaiah than he did even about physics.

00:23:34.000 So, this idea of the inquiry into the natural world is a very uniquely Christian idea because if you believe that there is a logos, a cosmological harmony to our existence, then therefore the universe is worth exploring and understanding.

00:23:47.000 Those words are very important.

00:23:48.000 Remember them: exploring and understanding.

00:23:51.000 Something changed in the 1800s with the Hegelians and the German historicists, where they decided to go a completely different direction.

00:23:58.000 They said, We do not desire to know about nature, we desire to remake and dominate nature.

00:24:03.000 That is completely different, right?

00:24:05.000 That it's not as if we want to try to understand why it is that, you know, where does wind come from, or why are temperatures increase or decrease, or you know, germ theory, or how can we possibly create, you know, better resistance to viruses or antibiotics.

00:24:21.000 No, no, no.

00:24:22.000 Instead, they said, we want to remake the creation in our image.

00:24:28.000 And the religion of scientism is exactly why there is a demonic pathological fixation on both abortion and the trans issue. 0.56

00:24:39.000 Both of them are the will of man exerting themselves over the creation of God.

00:24:49.000 Both of them.

00:24:50.000 That I get to decide who gets to live and die.

00:24:53.000 That I get to decide whether or not you're a man or a woman. 0.87

00:24:57.000 And so the religion of scientism is not about understanding the natural world or saving lives.

00:25:03.000 The religion of scientism is that the will of I is going to dominate what the divine created.

00:25:11.000 And this is exactly what played out the last couple of years.

00:25:15.000 That's the mRNA gene-altering shot.

00:25:17.000 That is why they are trying to put hormone blockers in kids' hands, is because they're trying to make it possible in the scientific arena that you can change what was naturally put into place.

00:25:31.000 And so science made a complete diversion.

00:25:32.000 So I am a big fan of science if it's done under the correct presupposition, which is, do we believe that there's a logos and we desire to know and understand and stay in awe and wonder of the beauty and the intricacy of what God created?

00:25:48.000 Or are you going into science instead with a spirit to alter, with a spirit, with a spirit of contempt?

00:26:00.000 The religion of scientism is filled with a dark spirit of I can do it better.

00:26:08.000 Incredible.

00:26:11.000 Charlie.

00:26:12.000 Sorry, I took so long.

00:26:13.000 No, are you kidding?

00:26:15.000 That was just exceptional.

00:26:16.000 So all five of those religions actually have their genesis, their seed in Genesis 1 to 11.

00:26:27.000 You know, Nimrod was the one who wanted to dominate.

00:26:32.000 He set up an empirical kind of society where men dominated men.

00:26:36.000 God never created man to be dominated by other men.

00:26:41.000 As someone who obviously is very, very learned and studies, tell us Genesis 1 to 11.

00:26:50.000 I know you got some wonderful thoughts on that.

00:26:51.000 Sure, we have a couple of minutes before we go to QA, but I think it's the most important part of the Bible.

00:26:57.000 I also think it should instruct every Christian politically.

00:27:01.000 Genesis 1 through 11 is the whole ballgame.

00:27:03.000 So let me just kind of isolate a couple of verses, okay?

00:27:06.000 Genesis 1-1.

00:27:07.000 In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.

00:27:10.000 That verse means that your creation matters.

00:27:13.000 There's a purpose to your existence.

00:27:14.000 We're not here by accident.

00:27:16.000 And that there is a God and you are not him.

00:27:19.000 That's a big deal.

00:27:24.000 Genesis 1:20 says.

00:27:25.000 That alone would help so many people.

00:27:27.000 That alone. 0.99

00:27:28.000 Genesis 1-1 should crush those five fake religions. 1.00

00:27:33.000 Genesis 1-1 is the shield and the sword against those five pagan river civilization religions. 0.99

00:27:39.000 Now, understand that those five religions are not new.

00:27:43.000 They're just repackaged manifestations of an unclean spirit, a Luciferian desire of all sorts of different types of pagan river civilizations in Egypt and Mesopotamia that the Hebrews were fighting and challenging against. 0.95

00:27:58.000 You have to understand this idea of monotheism, one God, is so unbelievably rare in the history of fake religions.

00:28:07.000 I mean, there's all these fake religions, and all of a sudden, monotheism comes along and God spoke it into existence.

00:28:12.000 What do you mean, God's above nature?

00:28:15.000 And not only that, but God chooses people not based on characteristics that we think matter, beauty or how they look, but instead on moral character.

00:28:26.000 God chose Noah because he was a righteous man in his generation.

00:28:30.000 The pagan river civilization of Mesopotamia said the gods would choose based on the best looking.

00:28:38.000 Now, why is polytheism so dangerous?

00:28:41.000 And these are all polytheistic in nature, poly meaning many.

00:28:46.000 Many gods, many moralities.

00:28:49.000 If you have one God, there is one morality.

00:28:52.000 You want to prevent man from doing what is right in his own eyes?

00:28:55.000 You must restore the promise of monotheism, which is Christianity. 0.95

00:29:00.000 So, Genesis 1 through 11 creates that entire moral foundation.

00:29:06.000 Genesis 1:26, 127.

00:29:08.000 What is man?

00:29:08.000 If I could set every pastor down, I think I could persuade many of them.

00:29:12.000 And they say, Well, I don't do politics.

00:29:14.000 And I'll say, Well, why are you trying to not be involved in something that human beings are engaged in?

00:29:19.000 And you have to ask them, anyone that has a pastor like this, ask them to define politics.

00:29:23.000 They cannot define politics.

00:29:25.000 Politics is so simple to define.

00:29:27.000 Politics is deciding who gets power and when they get power and how they're able to use the power.

00:29:35.000 That's it.

00:29:36.000 Politics is a question of power in human beings, okay?

00:29:39.000 You might say, Well, I don't care about that question.

00:29:41.000 That is such a silly thing to say because the Bible has a lot to say about who gets power and how they get power and when they get power.

00:29:50.000 In fact, the Bible says that power should be separate, that there should be checks and balances, that the people need to have consent.

00:29:57.000 If only a country adopted those ideas and put them into their constitution, which, by the way, is why the constitution is the greatest political document ever written.

00:30:07.000 Ever written, ever written.

00:30:13.000 And so, let me just kind of just dwell on that a little bit more: is that what is a human being?

00:30:19.000 You can choose to answer this question, obviously, with the secular humanist way or the Christian way.

00:30:24.000 The secular humanist says a human being is a mistake, a combination of cells, Darwinian evolution, roll of the dice, we happen to exist.

00:30:31.000 We believe that human beings have intentionality, purpose.

00:30:36.000 You're made in the image of the divine.

00:30:38.000 You have a soul.

00:30:39.000 Therefore, that necessitates human equality, human rights, and that government politics should not be able to crush that human being.

00:30:47.000 That that human being is a reflection of the divine order, as we know.

00:30:51.000 That's such an huge concept you could spend the rest of your life just mulling over and praying over.

00:30:57.000 So, the question of what is a human being is the most important question because the secular humanists, all five of those fake religions, would not answer that a human being is made in the image of God.

00:31:09.000 They would say that a human being is a mistake, or we don't know, or that it's a mystery.

00:31:13.000 So, it is right there.

00:31:14.000 So, Genesis 1:1, and then Genesis 1:26 and 1.27.

00:31:18.000 Then, the next question should be: okay, we know what a human being is.

00:31:21.000 Are human beings naturally good?

00:31:24.000 This is an unbelievably important question.

00:31:27.000 If human beings are naturally good, then we must be able to explain all the evil in the world.

00:31:33.000 And by the way, the secular humanists, the scientists, the earth worshipers, the cult of diversity, the anti-racism folks, they explain evil not in the heart of man, not with original sin in the fall.

00:31:45.000 They say that evil comes from the systems and the structures that we have inherited.

00:31:51.000 Therefore, we get rid of evil by getting rid of Western society and getting rid of the patriarchy and getting rid of Christianity. 0.99

00:31:58.000 If you can't answer where evil comes from, then you're going to make really bad political decisions afterwards because they say we must tear all this stuff down and then we'll be able to usher in some form of goodness.

00:32:10.000 Genesis says clearly the heart of man is flawed from birth, that we know that we are dealing with a broken raw material.

00:32:19.000 Therefore, we should have awe and wonder anytime we do anything right or good.

00:32:25.000 In fact, we should say, wow, the fact that we aren't tearing each other apart every single day is a massive moral advancement.

00:32:32.000 Let's figure out how we did that.

00:32:35.000 Christianity.

00:32:36.000 And then finally, and Jürgen, you alluded to this.

00:32:39.000 My favorite political verse of my political chapter that I wish every pastor taught correctly is Genesis 11.

00:32:48.000 Genesis 11 is exactly what happens when you try to build a metropolitan centralized government to honor yourself and to not honor God.

00:32:58.000 As it said very clearly there in the people of Babel, which means God confuses, by the way, they said that we are going to make a name for ourselves, that it will come and touch the heavens.

00:33:10.000 Both the American founding fathers and our Lord do not like major cities that want to make themselves gods.

00:33:18.000 The American founding fathers believed in decentralized power.

00:33:21.000 And so a pastor says, I don't believe in politics, then why on earth would God put Genesis 11 right there?

00:33:27.000 That's the final thing you read before God calls Abram.

00:33:32.000 The last thing you read before that we know is recorded history.

00:33:35.000 Because Genesis 1 through 11, you could debate of the exact time.

00:33:39.000 We know exactly down to like 100th, like 30th year when Abram was called.

00:33:44.000 And so history starts in Genesis 12, as we know at Genesis 11, because that final reminder that God is giving you, the interlude, the bridge, is, hey, when you build a political system, when you build a city, you better believe that that power is not centralized.

00:33:57.000 You better believe the heart of man will try to do something to terrorize others.

00:34:01.000 So how does God handle it?

00:34:02.000 He scatters and confuses them.

00:34:05.000 He offers judgment as a way to say to us, Hey, you try to build something in your own way, World Economic Forum, Globalism, Great Reset, that that will be scattered and that will be dishonored.

00:34:18.000 That is a political teaching.

00:34:21.000 Come on, mic drop, mic drop, mic drop, mic drop.

00:34:24.000 All right, we're going to do question and answer.

00:34:26.000 I've got one more question before the question and answers, but we're going to line up on the sides of the stage and we're going to have mics.

00:34:32.000 How are we going to do that?

00:34:33.000 Is Samuel Dude and who else?

00:34:35.000 And Mike Finn, the two most handsome men in the church.

00:34:41.000 Come on.

00:34:42.000 It's like el guapo el guapo on either side.

00:34:46.000 Just just one question on that.

00:34:50.000 Just like in the days of Elijah, there were 450 prophets of Baal, 400 prophets of Asherah. 0.83

00:34:58.000 The Bible says that they were fed by Jezebel at Jezebel's table, meaning that these were government, PBS, these were government-funded, government-sustained, and they were voices.

00:35:10.000 There was one voice crying out for God, 850 voices giving everything else.

00:35:17.000 There was an incredible pessimism.

00:35:19.000 In fact, when Elijah comes to the people, he says, How long are you going to falter between two opinions?

00:35:24.000 They answered him not a word.

00:35:25.000 So the people were really so discouraged, they lost their voice.

00:35:28.000 I know that you've been talking a little bit lately about a rise in like almost like a pessimistic nihilism, hopelessness, the world's gone to the evil are in control, the darkness.

00:35:39.000 Give us one thought.

00:35:39.000 What?

00:35:40.000 Like, why should we not quit?

00:35:42.000 Why should we not give up?

00:35:43.000 Of course.

00:35:44.000 So, a couple of thoughts on this, and then I do want to get to some questions.

00:35:47.000 The first category are really well-meaning Christians that write me emails.

00:35:51.000 I have a human laboratory because I host a radio program every day.

00:35:54.000 And thank you, by the way, those of you that watch on Real America's Voice and podcasting.

00:35:58.000 Thank you.

00:35:58.000 You guys make our show possible, and we work very hard, and you bless me with your emails, your thoughts, and your prayers.

00:36:05.000 But there are a fair amount of emails I get sometimes, hundreds a week.

00:36:08.000 Charlie, Jesus is coming next Thursday.

00:36:11.000 Stop all this melodrama.

00:36:13.000 He's coming soon.

00:36:14.000 We don't need to act anymore.

00:36:16.000 And then I always respond: Are you sure it's Thursday?

00:36:19.000 I always respond.

00:36:21.000 And they don't like it.

00:36:22.000 It's not always a fun exchange.

00:36:23.000 But I read every email.

00:36:24.000 When I say I read every email at freedom at charliekirk.com, I mean it.

00:36:28.000 I don't respond to every email, but I read everyone.

00:36:30.000 And I learned so much about humanity.

00:36:35.000 You read 15,000 emails a week.

00:36:38.000 You learn more than any pollster could ever tell you.

00:36:40.000 So I have a pretty good heart kind of understanding of the heartbeat there.

00:36:43.000 So it is a bad theological reading, a poor theological reading is a better way to say it. 0.78

00:36:50.000 Poor theological reading to say that I am not going to act.

00:36:53.000 I am not going to be bold because I believe that we are in the end times.

00:36:58.000 You might be right, but the day and the hour is unknown.

00:37:01.000 I do believe that Jesus is coming back.

00:37:03.000 But if you believe, this is what's interesting.

00:37:06.000 If you believe that Jesus is coming back soon, you should have the opposite view.

00:37:10.000 You should be leaning in.

00:37:11.000 You should be taking terrain.

00:37:12.000 You should be pouring in.

00:37:13.000 You should be acting more courageously and boldly, not retreating and surrendering.

00:37:20.000 Second, the second that I need to talk to is an unfortunate thing that really manifests in the last two weeks where there is just kind of this, Charlie, I don't think that my grandkids should have kids.

00:37:32.000 I would not bring kids into this world.

00:37:35.000 I find this to be preposterous.

00:37:36.000 The great Martin Luther said, even if the world was ending today, I would plant an apple tree.

00:37:42.000 What a beautiful, beautiful quote.

00:37:46.000 And there's a verse from Ecclesiastes that says something very similar, which is, you don't just look at the winds of whether or not you sow.

00:37:53.000 Too many people, I think, check the weather in the stock market before they say, I am going to act.

00:37:59.000 My main message to every church, every campus, every believer is that you could be disgusted, depressed, disgruntled at the macro, but you have zero excuse to not act boldly and courageously in the micro.

00:38:13.000 You must continue to pour in to build big families, to build strong churches, to expand businesses.

00:38:22.000 The enemy would love nothing more than to create a sense of paralysis amongst believers, the last best hope for liberty, because things look really bleak on the outside.

00:38:34.000 Of course, there's a lot of negativity.

00:38:36.000 We could talk about it.

00:38:38.000 It's actually irrelevant to what I try to end every speech with, which is, what are you going to do?

00:38:45.000 And if you ask the question, well, Charlie, what else am I to do?

00:38:47.000 We'll talk about at the end of what you can do.

00:38:50.000 It's a very simple question, which is, if you have not lost anything significant in the last couple of years, you're a spectator and you're not in the arena.

00:38:58.000 It's that simple.

00:38:59.000 You can judge.

00:39:01.000 Ouch.

00:39:01.000 You can judge a participant versus a spectator on how much they have lost, not how much they have gained.

00:39:09.000 Now, we've gained a lot at Turning Point USA.

00:39:11.000 You might say, well, Charlie, what have you lost?

00:39:13.000 Friendships?

00:39:14.000 Relationships with family members?

00:39:17.000 Time?

00:39:18.000 We've lost a lot.

00:39:18.000 We have the battle wounds and the scars to show it.

00:39:20.000 Praise God, we fought through it and we're leaning in and doing more.

00:39:24.000 But I find the people that are doing the most are saying, Charlie, I'm glad I lost those things because actually God has now freed me up to fight even harder to be able to win.

00:39:34.000 Thank you, Charlie.

00:39:35.000 Come on, put your hands together.

00:39:36.000 Thank you, Charlie.

00:39:38.000 Thank you, What a voice.

00:39:44.000 Great wisdom, great courage, great clarity.

00:39:49.000 I honestly believe that Charlie is a prophetic voice to our time.

00:39:53.000 Samuel, are we going with you first?

00:39:57.000 Samuel, maybe.

00:40:00.000 There we go.

00:40:01.000 All right, here we go.

00:40:02.000 First question.

00:40:03.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:40:04.000 My name's Chiara.

00:40:05.000 We've met before.

00:40:07.000 I go to San Diego State University with the North African Gender Studies barista at my school that you had mentioned earlier, and she says hi.

00:40:18.000 So my question is related to homelessness.

00:40:23.000 I'm from San Diego, but I do live out here near Temecula.

00:40:27.000 But in San Diego, our mayor, Todd Gloria, has worked with Gavin Newsome to start a conservatorship program where homeless people would be basically taken off the streets and given to the hands of government, where they would be given prescribed medications, provided housing, provided psychological services, all at the expense of taxpayers.

00:40:50.000 On the surface, this program does seem like a good idea to someone who's not like us.

00:40:55.000 But my question is, what is the conservative answer to addressing homelessness without using big government, big brother to take them off the street and address their alcohol, drugs, and all their problems?

00:41:11.000 It's a great question.

00:41:12.000 So, I mean, first of all, that program will be way over budget and totally messed up by the California government.

00:41:17.000 But that's not even going to be my answer.

00:41:20.000 We don't have to think too deeply about it because conservative mayors like Rudy Giuliani, they've solved homeless crisis.

00:41:26.000 So let's, okay, so which one of the five fake religions does this fall under?

00:41:30.000 The religion of tolerance.

00:41:31.000 We should not have tolerance for public degeneracy or depravity of our streets.

00:41:36.000 We should have compassion for the person and find healing for that person.

00:41:40.000 But the activity, I have no tolerance for somebody that goes around and exposing others with public nudity or publicly defecating.

00:41:48.000 That act should be considered intolerable.

00:41:51.000 So what is the conservative solution?

00:41:53.000 You should draw a very fine line.

00:41:55.000 You should make it illegal.

00:41:55.000 You don't mean to throw them in prison.

00:41:57.000 But yes, you should spend time and energy and resources to continually say, you can't go there.

00:42:02.000 You can't do that.

00:42:03.000 This is not your street.

00:42:04.000 You can't do that.

00:42:05.000 And what New York City found under Rudy Giuliani is, yeah, it's a messy nine months, but you do it humanely.

00:42:10.000 You expand the homeless shelters.

00:42:11.000 But eventually, the homeless learn the rules and they follow the rules and homelessness went down dramatically.

00:42:18.000 You get more of what you subsidize.

00:42:21.000 So if what you're telling me right now is the government is going to come in with housing and money, you're going to get more homelessness, not less homelessness.

00:42:30.000 And finally, it's a very complex issue.

00:42:35.000 I have spent some time in homeless encampments and going through it.

00:42:39.000 There is a group of people there that, of course, are mentally going through struggles and they need help and they need compassionate care.

00:42:46.000 However, this goes to the entire trans thing as well.

00:42:49.000 We should not have to accommodate clean streets, safe streets, and a society that functions because of somebody else's problem.

00:42:59.000 And so you think about it, it's exactly the same thing as the trans thing, right?

00:43:02.000 That I have to go walk through, you know, I don't know how San Diego is, but downtown LA, where it depresses your mood.

00:43:10.000 It brings down your spirit.

00:43:11.000 It makes you feel as if we can't solve problems.

00:43:13.000 We're not even able to issue care.

00:43:16.000 I think it creates a bad standard for our children.

00:43:18.000 It creates a messy society.

00:43:20.000 I don't like any of it.

00:43:21.000 And so I don't think we should tolerate the act of public encampments, all the while having, of course, a moral prerogative to give the people compassionate care.

00:43:31.000 That's my answer to that.

00:43:32.000 Thank you very much.

00:43:33.000 Absolutely brilliant.

00:43:34.000 Absolutely brilliant.

00:43:35.000 Mikey Finn.

00:43:38.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:43:39.000 Hi, my name is Josie.

00:43:41.000 I'm a registered nurse.

00:43:43.000 I'm a mom.

00:43:44.000 I'm a born and raised Christian, immigrant, educated.

00:43:48.000 My question, actually, two things.

00:43:50.000 When are you running for office?

00:43:57.000 No.

00:43:58.000 And then number two.

00:43:59.000 So I have two kids.

00:44:00.000 One is in elementary and then one is in high school.

00:44:04.000 So with the school district right now with CRT and then gender equality.

00:44:12.000 So the parents right now are being labeled as domestic terrorists.

00:44:19.000 What advice can you give us parents or what can you do to help us fight our fight?

00:44:26.000 Because we're kind of losing the battle with the school district right now, with the books that are in the library right now, that we cannot really, we cannot really, you know what I mean?

00:44:43.000 So what can you do to help us?

00:44:46.000 Sure.

00:44:46.000 So the first question, I'm not running for office.

00:44:48.000 That's not going to happen.

00:44:49.000 But let me tell you what, you might say, Charlie, what do you do?

00:44:53.000 I think I'm just beginning, if God wants me to continue on this path, hopefully a very meaningful and purposeful daily task of educating people, millions of people, three hours live on radio, podcasting.

00:45:06.000 I feel called to that.

00:45:07.000 I love it.

00:45:09.000 We're bringing people to the Lord every day.

00:45:11.000 We're bringing people away from these left-wing lies every single day.

00:45:16.000 I have absolute freedom to say what I want whenever I want to say.

00:45:20.000 I have zero, I mean, zero reservations about speaking my mind.

00:45:25.000 And I see it impacting.

00:45:27.000 And while I appreciate the compliment, Charlie, you're going to run for office.

00:45:33.000 I would rather have a program and an organization, Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action, all working in harmony to be able to rise up a new generation of people to run for office and hold the people that are already elected that have run for office and then be able to be a daily drumbeat to hopefully encourage you, clarify the lies and challenge it.

00:45:55.000 So that's what I feel personally called to in this moment in my life.

00:45:58.000 And I think, and I pray, that actually might be a bigger impact than just being a single office holder in Washington, D.C.

00:46:05.000 I believe that.

00:46:05.000 But, okay, so as far as the CRT, you have to fight.

00:46:09.000 Who cares if they call you a domestic terrorist?

00:46:11.000 Keep on showing up at these meetings.

00:46:13.000 We need to flood these school board meetings.

00:46:15.000 And look, I personally am never going to send my daughter to a government school.

00:46:19.000 We're homeschooling.

00:46:20.000 We're not doing any of this nonsense.

00:46:23.000 It's not going to happen, okay?

00:46:24.000 We're not doing it.

00:46:26.000 But I want to say you have a beautiful heart because your kids are being taught outright lies.

00:46:33.000 And you could turn that negative into a positive, but you have to remind your kids every day that they are lies.

00:46:39.000 And if you do this correctly, your kids will graduate tougher and more resilient because of the nonsense being thrown at them.

00:46:46.000 So while the situation is not ideal, I don't have any sort of profound plan to be able to remove CRT from a local school board because even taking over the school board, they have ways to dodge it and all that.

00:46:56.000 What I can tell you, though, is that your daily, hourly involvement in your child's upbringing can create them with a missionary spirit to be in that high school, to separate the lie from truth.

00:47:07.000 And they will be so tough by the time they enter college.

00:47:10.000 If they go, they probably shouldn't.

00:47:11.000 But if they go to college, they will be battle ready to fight for righteousness.

00:47:17.000 Boom.

00:47:19.000 Boom.

00:47:19.000 Samuel, can I say one?

00:47:21.000 Please go.

00:47:21.000 Yeah, please, yeah.

00:47:22.000 So, as we're doing this, just one way that you could personally bless me, by the way, it's no charge, is just to follow this QR code and subscribe to our podcast.

00:47:31.000 We work very hard, three podcasts a day, in addition to all the travel and Turning Point USA.

00:47:36.000 So, you just take out your phone.

00:47:37.000 If you do that throughout as we're answering questions, it's a way to personally bless us and me here tonight.

00:47:43.000 So, I'll make one other plug in a second, but thank you for putting that up, Jürgen.

00:47:46.000 It really is sweet.

00:47:47.000 Yes, awesome.

00:47:48.000 Here with Grace.

00:47:51.000 So, I'm 11 years old in sixth grade, and I just want to ask you what you can say to the youth directly on how we can show wisdom in these schools and show how can we fight for our battle in this generation as well.

00:48:15.000 That's hope for the future right there.

00:48:19.000 Look, when people tell me to stop having children, you know, stop having children, I say, really?

00:48:26.000 They're your hope.

00:48:27.000 They say, I don't want to bring kids into this dark world.

00:48:30.000 I say, well, maybe they might light it up.

00:48:40.000 The fact that you're 12 years old and you're even dwelling over this shows how dark our times are, but how necessary you are.

00:48:46.000 First, get involved with Turning Point USA immediately, and we'll help you out because we do this better than anybody else.

00:48:53.000 It's our bread and butter to empower young patriots to fight and to scrap for liberty, even in the most hostile environments.

00:48:59.000 We'll help build community.

00:49:01.000 You'll find friends for a lifetime.

00:49:02.000 It's what we do.

00:49:02.000 It's my heart for the nation's young people.

00:49:05.000 Praise God.

00:49:05.000 We've had hundreds of thousands of lives individually changed at Turning Point USA.

00:49:09.000 It's been a move of God.

00:49:10.000 But let me just tell you something that I want to really zero in on: where you said wisdom, and I'm glad you said wisdom.

00:49:15.000 That means somebody educated you.

00:49:16.000 There's a difference between wisdom and knowledge, okay?

00:49:19.000 And there is no wisdom in the academy.

00:49:21.000 There's no wisdom in universities.

00:49:23.000 What is the difference?

00:49:23.000 Knowledge is facts and figures.

00:49:25.000 What's the capital of California?

00:49:27.000 Who's the governor?

00:49:28.000 All that's knowledge, okay?

00:49:29.000 You could fill a young person's mind with knowledge, but they're devoid of wisdom.

00:49:33.000 Wisdom is the knowledge of things that never change.

00:49:36.000 Wisdom means that if you teach it today, it will be true 100 years from now, 1,000 years from now.

00:49:41.000 As it says in the scriptures, where does wisdom come from?

00:49:44.000 From the fear of the Lord comes wisdom.

00:49:46.000 Therefore, if there's no God, there's no wisdom, which is why there's no wisdom at most universities, because there is no God.

00:49:53.000 And so continue to dwell on that question of what is wise.

00:49:58.000 And here's how you just ask that question: Will this be true 100 years from now?

00:50:04.000 If the answer is yes, you have found something wise.

00:50:06.000 If the answer is no, it matters, but it's not as important.

00:50:10.000 We must steep our children in wisdom.

00:50:12.000 How do you do that?

00:50:13.000 You read the great books.

00:50:14.000 You study Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Aquinas, Augustine, Hume, Burke, Machiavelli properly.

00:50:20.000 You know, you study the great thinkers of the West, what they were right about, what they were wrong about.

00:50:25.000 And then, of course, the scriptures.

00:50:26.000 And this is why the founding fathers, I believe, people say, Charlie, how do we restore America?

00:50:31.000 The founding fathers gave us a roadmap.

00:50:33.000 We just have to take a U-turn and go back to the starting point of the promise of the Declaration and the Constitution.

00:50:39.000 The more I study the framers and the founders, the more thankful I am to God that we live in this country.

00:50:46.000 I can't tell you how profound I believe, divinely inspired.

00:50:50.000 I truly believe that you look at Genesis 1-1, Mount Sinai, the resurrection of Jesus, and then you could go fast forward in time, the creation of America, are some of the most important moments in history.

00:51:02.000 And of course, the resurrection is much more important than the creation of America, but there's nothing quite like America in the history of self-government.

00:51:09.000 Why?

00:51:10.000 It's because the founding fathers wrote everything based on things that will always be true, not the things that happened to be true then.

00:51:18.000 They did not base the Declaration or the Constitution based on what the weather was like today.

00:51:23.000 They based it on principles of eternal importance.

00:51:28.000 And that should always be our true north.

00:51:32.000 Unbelievable.

00:51:33.000 Thank you.

00:51:36.000 Hey, Charlie, I'm just so impressed, man, at the remarkable life you've lived so far.

00:51:43.000 But you did touch on a very simple hierarchy earlier.

00:51:46.000 You said God.

00:51:47.000 man, nature.

00:51:49.000 And I'm just curious, what would be your explanation as to why there is such an attack on the seemingly infinite human hierarchies that we have in the world?

00:52:01.000 Yeah, that's a really important question.

00:52:03.000 So they say they want egalitarianism, but in reality, they want to be on the top of the hierarchy.

00:52:09.000 These are people that have the religion of power.

00:52:11.000 They won't always tell you. 0.56

00:52:13.000 Joseph Stalin, I believe, was one of the most evil people ever to live.

00:52:17.000 Joseph Stalin was a very interesting person.

00:52:19.000 I could talk about Stalin at length.

00:52:21.000 If you haven't studied Stalin, you should.

00:52:23.000 What was so perplexing is he was a seminary student, and he was number one in his seminary.

00:52:27.000 He knew the scriptures.

00:52:28.000 He knew God, and he decided to challenge him.

00:52:30.000 And that's very sick if you think about it.

00:52:32.000 I really believe Stalin had the spirit of Lucifer, knowing God and rebelling and trying. 0.99

00:52:38.000 And by the way, he was a miserable, paranoid man. 0.96

00:52:40.000 Stalin created a movement. 0.87

00:52:42.000 He inherited Lenin's movement, but he always said egalitarianism, equality.

00:52:46.000 That's not true.

00:52:47.000 Stalin had 100,000 personal armed guards because he was afraid of somebody going after him.

00:52:54.000 It was equality of poverty for you and the spoils and the wealth for me.

00:52:59.000 So the reason I want to disrupt the hierarchy is they want to be in charge.

00:53:03.000 Why?

00:53:05.000 Because Stalin aside, because he didn't believe the promise of the scriptures, obviously, but he did outwardly want to challenge God, is that they believe this is all there is.

00:53:16.000 And they believe this is the whole ballgame.

00:53:19.000 If you look at your existence, that there is no eternity and there is no judgment, then you can get to yourself to the belief of I better collect as much stuff and as much power and make myself like God today.

00:53:32.000 That is what motivated Pharaoh. 0.62

00:53:34.000 That is what motivated every Caesar, king and czar, Alexander the Great.

00:53:38.000 But if you then believe a little bit that even no matter how many lands, spoils, you know, pieces of gold or silver that you might accumulate, that there is a God above you that should then restrain your action just from temporal material accumulation.

00:53:53.000 Why are they trying to get rid of the hierarchies? 0.87

00:53:55.000 Not that they don't believe in them.

00:53:56.000 It's that they want to be on top of the hierarchy.

00:53:58.000 These people are driven to become tyrants.

00:54:02.000 Unbelievable.

00:54:04.000 Have we got time for one more?

00:54:06.000 One more question.

00:54:08.000 Okay.

00:54:11.000 Okay.

00:54:11.000 All right.

00:54:11.000 Yeah.

00:54:12.000 It's interesting.

00:54:13.000 I have to get on a nationwide prayer call with the great Jack Hibbs.

00:54:17.000 And so I have a very specific for the Nashville shooting.

00:54:20.000 I have a very specific end time, but I'm going to go right up against it and then push it a little bit even beyond that.

00:54:24.000 So we'll do another.

00:54:25.000 Is that okay, Jurgen?

00:54:26.000 Can we have another question?

00:54:27.000 One, one.

00:54:28.000 Get your best one ready over there, Mike.

00:54:30.000 This is Katie.

00:54:32.000 I'm in the HR industry and I'm in the hiring space.

00:54:36.000 And in a few weeks, I have the opportunity to speak at an HR event where I'm pushing against DE and I, which is diversity, equity, and inclusion.

00:54:44.000 And I'm encouraging other HR leaders to disrupt hiring practices based upon race and gender.

00:54:50.000 If you could give me one to three main points of why you think why DE and I should stop, what would those be?

00:54:57.000 Well, first of all, God bless you.

00:54:59.000 I mean, the essence of your question is like trying to reclaim some of the most totalitarian corners.

00:55:06.000 I can't tell you how much damage HR departments have done to once functioning companies.

00:55:11.000 Here's a couple of questions you can ask your fellow HR commissars.

00:55:15.000 Not that fellow, but you know, they happen to be somewhat, let's just say, Soviet.

00:55:22.000 So the question: What matters more?

00:55:27.000 Things you can change or things you can't change?

00:55:29.000 Ask them that question.

00:55:31.000 When we're trying to create a moral dimension or a landscape, what matters more?

00:55:35.000 Things you can change or things you can't change.

00:55:37.000 They will answer that correctly because they don't really, really realize it.

00:55:40.000 They'll say, oh, things you can change.

00:55:41.000 But then say, why are we emphasizing things you can't change?

00:55:45.000 Like race.

00:55:47.000 Can't change your race, so why does it matter? 1.00

00:55:50.000 Number two, the next important question is: do we believe that separating people based on things they can't change is evil and wrong?

00:55:59.000 They should say yes.

00:56:00.000 Say like segregation is wrong.

00:56:02.000 If they say yes, then say, okay, then the spirit of DEI puts a preference of segregation above that of a meritocracy.

00:56:09.000 That's the final thing, which is, wouldn't it be beautiful if we restored the ideal that I don't know existed 10 years ago in HR departments?

00:56:16.000 That merit, character, commitment matters a lot more than melanin.

00:56:23.000 So the final question I would ask with you is you have to ask your people, and you don't have to be confrontational, just be clear.

00:56:30.000 What matters more, melanin or merit?

00:56:33.000 Melanin or merit.

00:56:35.000 You got to choose, guys.

00:56:36.000 Are we going to have an HR culture based on melanin or merit?

00:56:39.000 Because right now we are saying merit does not matter, but melanin matters.

00:56:42.000 And then finally, you should say, I personally find it objectionable and wrong that we are going back into a trend where all of a sudden we think that race matters and decisions should be based on race.

00:56:53.000 I want to live in an America where Martin Luther King said very clearly, I don't care about the color of your skin, but the content of your character.

00:57:01.000 That's what I would say at your conference in a couple weeks.

00:57:05.000 Oh my, How many people can see the spirit of Solomon resting on a young man over here?

00:57:13.000 Wow.

00:57:13.000 Mikey, you got one more?

00:57:16.000 That's a funny question.

00:57:17.000 Final question.

00:57:18.000 All right.

00:57:18.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:57:20.000 So since you are a new father, I was wondering, a personal question, but for your kid in homeschool, what are you going to do with the internet, phones, and the newly established AI and its biased information it gives kids, high schoolers for papers and all that type of stuff?

00:57:35.000 So what am I going to do about internet like phones and AI with your so we're going to do our best to not have our daughter have a smartphone till she's 17 or 18.

00:57:46.000 And you can laugh all you want.

00:57:48.000 I didn't get a smartphone till I was 21 because they didn't exist till I was 21.

00:57:54.000 I'm going to try my best and I might fail to create an existence of awe and wonder of playing outside and using your imagination, not scrolling through TikTok.

00:58:05.000 And I might fail.

00:58:06.000 You might be able to pull this up 14 years from now and I might totally fail.

00:58:13.000 I believe that we in America have way too much faith in progress.

00:58:17.000 I think that the amount of the fruits of modernity currently are poison.

00:58:22.000 And we have to slow down and go back to the roots of classical education.

00:58:26.000 And I feel an obligation and we're going to be hawks with this.

00:58:30.000 And screen time, all that.

00:58:36.000 We're going to limit all of it.

00:58:37.000 And we're going to try to create an existence for our daughter of the same one that I grew up in in the 1990s.

00:58:43.000 And it's going to be a challenge and it's going to be a battle, but I believe a moral obligation to do that.

00:58:52.000 And I encourage every other parent to do the same.

00:58:55.000 Amen.

00:58:56.000 Amen.

00:58:58.000 Please say one last thing.

00:58:59.000 Absolutely you can.

00:59:01.000 If you feel moved, please follow the QR code.

00:59:03.000 I know it sounds silly, but it's a way that we actually fight back against big tech censorship.

00:59:08.000 It's how we're able to say, not canceled.

00:59:11.000 I know it's like, oh, Charlie, come on, it's self-promotional.

00:59:14.000 It is, but it also could bless you.

00:59:16.000 Jurgen, you send me beautiful notes about our podcast at times, and that really blesses me.

00:59:20.000 This whole conversation will be re-aired actually on this QR code coming up on the weekend.

00:59:24.000 If you're okay with that, Jürgen, I imagine yes.

00:59:26.000 Absolutely.

00:59:26.000 100%.

00:59:28.000 And let me just end with this note: which is: I did tease this.

00:59:32.000 So, you probably, some of you probably tonight, and I've seen you because I watch the audience, probably one out of every 30 of you.

00:59:37.000 You kind of cross your arms.

00:59:39.000 You say, I've kind of heard this before.

00:59:40.000 Charlie, I've done everything that has been asked of me.

00:59:44.000 I watched Tucker Carlson.

00:59:47.000 I bought the pillow.

00:59:49.000 I've done everything that has been asked of me.

00:59:52.000 Who bought the pillow?

00:59:55.000 Promo code Kirk, by the way, and those slippers are terrific.

01:00:02.000 I have Relief Factor.

01:00:03.000 I reverse-mortgaged my home.

01:00:04.000 I have that thing that goes up the stairs.

01:00:07.000 Charlie, I've done everything that's been asked of me.

01:00:14.000 My challenge for you here tonight, because you already go to an excellent church, you have a fabulous pastor, you have a great community, is to dig deeper, pray, fast this Easter season, and ask the Lord to say, What else can I give?

01:00:26.000 What else can I do?

01:00:27.000 Maybe you've gone off the path a little bit, you need to recommit.

01:00:30.000 Maybe you've gone so far and extended, you need to pull back and reevaluate if it's the best use of your time.

01:00:35.000 All of those are good ways to look at it.

01:00:37.000 But the broader question here is: yes, things look troubling, but what am I going to do as an act of obedience and worship to the Lord?

01:00:49.000 Here's what we are going to do at Turning Point USA.

01:00:51.000 We're starting more high school chapters.

01:00:53.000 We're planting that apple tree.

01:00:55.000 We're starting more college chapters.

01:00:56.000 We're starting more homeschool hybrid groups.

01:00:58.000 We're doing more campus tours.

01:01:00.000 We're doing more church partnerships.

01:01:01.000 We're doing more pastor summits.

01:01:03.000 We are planting that apple tree today, even though it might look like the world is ending.

01:01:07.000 Because guess what?

01:01:08.000 We, as Christians, we're not allowed to be nihilistic.

01:01:11.000 We're not allowed to be cynical.

01:01:12.000 The battle is already won.

01:01:14.000 So it's time for us to get to the arena and start to fight.

01:01:16.000 God bless you guys.

01:01:17.000 Thank you so much.

01:01:21.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

01:01:23.000 Email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:01:26.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - April 02, 2023

Distorted Religion—LIVE from Awaken Church

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