The Charlie Kirk Show - Diversity is Not Our Strength with Chris Bedford

00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody, what happens if diversity is actually not our strength?

00:00:03.000 Are you allowed to say that?

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00:00:06.000 Chris Bedford from the Federalist, very smart guy and good friend of this program, makes the argument that diversity is, in fact, not our strength.

00:00:15.000 That diversity can, in fact, be a weakness.

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00:02:20.000 Hey, everybody.

00:02:20.000 Welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:02:22.000 With us again is Chris Bedford backed by Popular Demand.

00:02:27.000 Chris, I'll tell you how this whole interview came to be.

00:02:31.000 I was doing a podcast last week on the downside of diversity.

00:02:36.000 So I typed into a search engine, not Google, diversity is not our strength.

00:02:41.000 And your piece popped up.

00:02:43.000 And I said, oh, we're thinking the same thing.

00:02:46.000 And so I sent it to Andrew and he's like, oh, we love Chris.

00:02:49.000 Let's have him back on.

00:02:50.000 So just so you know, some people out there are typing into search engines.

00:02:54.000 Diversity is not our strength, which is a rather provocative thing to say nowadays.

00:02:58.000 We're living under a diversity regime of kind of this diversity industrial complex.

00:03:04.000 Your piece is brilliant.

00:03:05.000 It's very well written.

00:03:06.000 Some would say it's provocative.

00:03:08.000 I think it's perfect.

00:03:10.000 Why is diversity not our strength?

00:03:12.000 Oh, well, thank you for that.

00:03:14.000 Thanks for the compliments.

00:03:16.000 I will tell you that people from my neighbor to my mother were very nervous when they saw the headline of my article that was just so straight up saying, oh my gosh, what's he done?

00:03:25.000 And then they read it and found that it was a pretty compelling case.

00:03:28.000 Diversity is our strength.

00:03:30.000 It's just something that's just repeated over and over again.

00:03:33.000 All the children are made to repeat it.

00:03:35.000 All the corporations are made to repeat it.

00:03:37.000 There was a big mural at the local butcher I like to go to across from them that said, it is our differences that bring us together.

00:03:45.000 Now, that's what originally struck me about the whole thing is just the opposite, the opposite of the truth.

00:03:51.000 Now, there's a lot of things that were complete differences in background, in perception, in abilities, in language, in culture will actually make a huge difference.

00:04:04.000 For example, with a police force, where there may be some neighborhoods that are very inward focused, very suspicious of outsiders, maybe a different culture, maybe a different language.

00:04:13.000 They're going to be a lot more comfortable speaking with someone from that culture, from that language who's a police officer than just someone who's an outsider.

00:04:21.000 It's always worked, whether it's South Boston or downtown Detroit, that's been the case.

00:04:25.000 However, what makes that police officer a good police officer?

00:04:28.000 It's not simply that they are different.

00:04:30.000 That's not what makes them a good police officer.

00:04:32.000 It's that they are both united with their fellow officers of all different races and creeds and backgrounds and educations to try to come forward and protect law and order.

00:04:40.000 They believe in that badge.

00:04:42.000 They believe in this country.

00:04:43.000 They believe in justice.

00:04:44.000 They believe that they are a force for good.

00:04:47.000 Example I gave that some people connected to was the Burger King Kids Club.

00:04:51.000 Now, that's a pretty diverse group of people.

00:04:53.000 It's obviously just corporate marketing.

00:04:55.000 You've got a red-headed kid in a wheelchair. 0.98

00:04:58.000 You've got a tomboy.

00:04:59.000 You've got an Hispanic older teenager and a black older teenager. 0.93

00:05:02.000 You've got a nerdy little guy. 1.00

00:05:04.000 You've got a dog with a helmet.

00:05:06.000 It's a completely diverse group of people.

00:05:09.000 But what brings them together?

00:05:10.000 They don't all just hang out because they're different.

00:05:13.000 That would divide them normally.

00:05:14.000 What brings them together is they're all children who love cheeseburgers and adventure.

00:05:18.000 That's what makes them the Burger King Kids Club.

00:05:20.000 So stressing our differences, our differences are at best a feature.

00:05:25.000 And more often, they're a problem.

00:05:27.000 They cause a lot of negativity.

00:05:28.000 They cause distrust and dislike between people.

00:05:31.000 It's universal.

00:05:32.000 It's ancient.

00:05:32.000 It's across the whole planet.

00:05:34.000 It's just human nature.

00:05:35.000 But when we're united under one flag, under one banner, when we have to share in our common defense together, when we share in our inheritance, my black neighbors, my Hispanic neighbors, and me, we're all in this together in the city.

00:05:48.000 We all come together in that.

00:05:49.000 It's what we have together that makes us stronger.

00:05:52.000 So where did this incantation of diversity being our strength come from?

00:05:57.000 I mean, it's obviously a third rail issue because no one wants to be called a racist, obviously, because what they're really saying is that we need to focus on what can possibly divide us.

00:06:13.000 And anyone who actually looks at this analytically, you're like, this really doesn't make a lot of sense, which is what you wrote in this piece.

00:06:19.000 And Tucker Carlson said something like this, I think, two years ago, and the world lost its mind, where he did kind of a monologue.

00:06:25.000 He's like, you know what, actually, it's not our strength.

00:06:27.000 And everyone just, including on the right, said, you're not allowed to say that.

00:06:30.000 Where did this come from?

00:06:31.000 We've all heard it.

00:06:32.000 It's on bumper stickers.

00:06:34.000 It's almost religiously embraced.

00:06:37.000 Where did this come from?

00:06:38.000 Because you're not even allowed to possibly question it.

00:06:41.000 It's been, we've been lied to.

00:06:42.000 It came from the universities.

00:06:43.000 It came from the academics.

00:06:45.000 It came from the kind of people who came up with critical race theory.

00:06:48.000 And before that, came up with multiculturalism.

00:06:51.000 The idea that I was taught, for example, I saw it starting to change when I was a younger kid, and I thought it might be over.

00:06:56.000 When I was taught as a young child, that we're a salad.

00:06:59.000 America is a salad. 0.89

00:07:00.000 It's made better by its different ingredients.

00:07:02.000 Salad's more vibrant.

00:07:03.000 It's got lettuce and tomatoes and onions, all these things.

00:07:06.000 Yeah, sure, that's absolutely true.

00:07:07.000 Of course, what brings them together is they taste well together in a salad.

00:07:10.000 You wouldn't add hot fudge to that unless you were particularly hungover.

00:07:15.000 But later on, they taught a melting pot idea because that had been rejected.

00:07:21.000 We see the impact of this all over the entire planet when you mix societies.

00:07:25.000 Basically, United States, until the 50s or 60s, was the only Western country that was truly multiracial in any kind of a way that had that multiracial history.

00:07:35.000 Europe likes to wag their finger at the disgrace of the civil rights disorders that we had in this country in the 60s, all the race riots, all the hate.

00:07:43.000 They like to say, look at America.

00:07:44.000 They're so hateful, not like us.

00:07:46.000 Well, they'd never have dealt with anything like that.

00:07:48.000 And after the great migration that they had after World War II, it started to absolutely happen. 0.99

00:07:52.000 It's still happening to this day.

00:07:54.000 These folks are trying to push this as some kind of religion because they want to make us different.

00:07:58.000 They want to make us divided.

00:08:00.000 It's really just the simplest answer there possibly can be.

00:08:03.000 A lot of these folks, whether you see the labor left in England that's been cheering on the West's disgraceful defeat in Afghanistan, or some of the people over here who've been cheering not just for our withdrawal, but for the manner in which it's being done, which is shameful.

00:08:17.000 They don't like a strong America.

00:08:19.000 They don't want a proud America.

00:08:20.000 They don't want one that is united and strong because they think that's a supremely dangerous global imperial power and a capitalist power that can bully the world.

00:08:29.000 They want us to be an equal member of the global community and they believe in more of an equitable equity member of the global community who needs to get their oil from Saudi Arabia and Russia as opposed to from the Midwest and from the North and from our neighbors in Canada, who needs them for all of these things, who needs Europe's defenses and protection, who needs France in order to defend itself.

00:08:49.000 These are the countries, that's where they want this country.

00:08:53.000 And by dividing us, by taking away every single thing that unites us, even baseball and football, they're trying to achieve it.

00:09:00.000 Yeah, I mean, that's a good explanation.

00:09:04.000 And I can't really remember the first time I ever heard this phrase.

00:09:09.000 I have, I mean, it's hard to escape it.

00:09:11.000 And politicians say it all the time, just kind of as a catch-all to kind of just get people to start clapping.

00:09:18.000 And then you don't have to explain what your beliefs are or anything actually significant or meaningful, right?

00:09:22.000 Like, vote for me.

00:09:23.000 Diversity is our strength.

00:09:24.000 Thank you so much for having me and see you later.

00:09:26.000 Kind of like, okay, well, that's okay, sure.

00:09:28.000 They made me feel good, I guess.

00:09:30.000 But isn't it in some way sort of appealing, though, right, Chris?

00:09:33.000 Because within the statement, and I don't want to go too much into the statement.

00:09:36.000 I want to actually get into the philosophy, but I think the statement, there's something here where there's kind of a virtue signaling component to it.

00:09:42.000 There's kind of a moral righteousness that I'm a better person than my grandfather because he didn't think diversity was our strength.

00:09:50.000 He thought that continuity was a strength, or he thought that he thought that unity was a strength.

00:09:55.000 And I am more enlightened.

00:09:57.000 I am in the postmodern era.

00:09:59.000 Isn't there kind of a part of this in that phrase where like we are now going to say that strength actually doesn't come from achieving anything meaningful, but just having a bunch of people that look different?

00:10:10.000 Yeah, I think there is.

00:10:11.000 And it's part of the new secular religion that we're seeing from a lot of folks who don't believe in this country.

00:10:17.000 They don't believe that it's blessed by God.

00:10:19.000 They don't even believe in God.

00:10:20.000 They don't have any kind of other Christian morality to come to.

00:10:25.000 It's typical.

00:10:26.000 Of course, it's not across the board, but it's typical of my neighbors at least.

00:10:30.000 Everyone who's got the biggest, most obvious virtue signaling sign in their front yard probably isn't going to church.

00:10:35.000 They probably don't have that much outside of their political religion that makes them feel a lot better.

00:10:40.000 They think that they're so advanced that they don't need America, that they're citizens of the world.

00:10:46.000 They've always had people who are kind of like this in some way, who didn't feel any kind of fealty to their country or to their city or to their clan or whichever group you want to go back with.

00:10:57.000 But now it's infected our upper classes, affected our ruling classes, one of the things that makes it absolutely particularly dangerous.

00:11:05.000 And they've tried to make every kind of defense of this country into some kind of toxicity.

00:11:10.000 If you defend the United States and say it was great, you're not talking about the country that defeated fascism.

00:11:14.000 You're talking about slavery and you're talking about evilness.

00:11:17.000 You're not talking about the country that eventually ended slavery worldwide along with England.

00:11:23.000 You're talking about all of the evils that we've done.

00:11:26.000 They do this over and over again. 0.94

00:11:27.000 And when you say diversity is not your strength, I had people from Media Matters for America putting my quote up next to David Duke, that idiot Klan leader, wannabe, down there in the South, who said, diversity is not our strength. 0.93

00:11:39.000 They say, well, you can't say that because he said it. 0.86

00:11:41.000 Who says I can't say it?

00:11:42.000 Because it's absolutely true. 1.00

00:11:43.000 It's got nothing to do with that idiot. 1.00

00:11:45.000 This is a fact. 1.00

00:11:46.000 They try and turn and feather you.

00:11:48.000 If you say that unity is something that holds us together and makes us stronger, an undeniable statement that compare you to Mussolini and the fascism, this is the kind of attacks they want, but it's a constant shaming thing. 0.97

00:11:59.000 And at the end of the day, it's ridiculous.

00:12:01.000 If you go through all the different things that they're willing to call racist, whether they're Jimmy's on top of your ice cream cone or sandwiches because some cultures use pitas or use tortillas instead, the sandwiches are apparently racist now. 0.73

00:12:14.000 You go through it all, it just exactly deserves that reaction.

00:12:17.000 If there's laughter and it deserves scorn. 0.73

00:12:19.000 Now, the people themselves who are trying to tar you as a racist are absolutely worthy of your scorn and contempt.

00:12:25.000 But the people, the things that they're saying, just dismiss them and laugh at them.

00:12:30.000 They're only as powerful as the mob is willing to make them.

00:12:33.000 And if you just look at them and just straight up say, you know, this is a ridiculous assertion you're making, it takes a lot of that power away.

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00:13:20.000 You bring up an important point there, which is when you immediately say something that is against the regime, they'll say, oh, well, you do know that Hitler also said that.

00:13:32.000 So my favorite response is, well, you know, you have a dog and Hitler had a dog too. 0.64

00:13:36.000 And so I have a lot of questions about you.

00:13:38.000 Again, that's not a unique take, but it's the whole Hitler has a dog thing, right?

00:13:41.000 And you do know Hitler ate.

00:13:43.000 He ate food.

00:13:44.000 So do you.

00:13:45.000 And that's a really that's right.

00:13:50.000 They don't realize that fascism is not really a thing that's going to be repeated.

00:13:54.000 Like, fascism is a very unique period in government in the interwar period between World War I and World War II.

00:14:01.000 We'll have lots of different states in the future, and a lot of them may, in some ways, approach what we want to call fascism.

00:14:06.000 But I think George Orwell was right when he said all that fascism means is something we don't like.

00:14:12.000 Yeah, I mean, and the argumentation side of this is they don't actually want to say whether or not something is true or not.

00:14:21.000 They would rather just use this kind of facade.

00:14:24.000 And I want to get your take on this.

00:14:26.000 I mean, the economic plunder that is occurring in our country is real.

00:14:30.000 Normal people are suffering and they're about to suffer a lot more.

00:14:33.000 Inflation is about to kick in.

00:14:34.000 It's going to be a very disturbing couple of years, I'm afraid, for a middle-class America.

00:14:39.000 But the hyper-racialization of our country is almost like a hypnotic. 0.59

00:14:43.000 It gets people to focus on things that really don't matter while there's real issues that are occurring they don't want you to actually talk about.

00:14:51.000 Can you talk about, can you speak to that where we're not properly ordering really what's happening in our country and instead focusing on seemingly kind of not just fringe, but just kind of settled issues that they want to resurrect for political power?

00:15:07.000 Absolutely.

00:15:08.000 We can see the proof in all of the polling that this country has done over the past 15 years or so, for example, on racial relations in this country.

00:15:16.000 15 years ago, a majority of black people in America thought that race relations were good and were improving.

00:15:22.000 An even bigger majority of white people, unsurprisingly, thought the same.

00:15:26.000 Now both of those numbers have been halved.

00:15:29.000 There is a minority of both groups of people who think that race relations are good.

00:15:33.000 And why wouldn't they think that?

00:15:35.000 We've had an increasing, unceasing march to racialize every single incident.

00:15:40.000 We are literally reintroducing segregation as a policy.

00:15:44.000 Humans have always segregated just on their own through options.

00:15:48.000 You see that in crowds typically.

00:15:50.000 You see that in front groups that at lunch tables.

00:15:52.000 We're making it a school policy to make people different, to come down from the top, to order them to sit across from each other, to not make friends, not understand each other.

00:16:01.000 This is evil.

00:16:03.000 This is the kind of policy that plays up on human evils.

00:16:06.000 This is something that's also been going on for a long time.

00:16:09.000 It has finally taken root.

00:16:10.000 And I think to your point of...

00:16:12.000 Why we've seen this so much is because the socialists and the hard left have always tried to divide people in the world over class differences.

00:16:20.000 When you were in Europe or you were in Tsarist Russia, or you were in Asia, or even in India to some extent when they had some early successes, you were able to do that because there absolutely were class differences, differences that were marked by your accent, by who your parents were, by the peerage, by your land.

00:16:37.000 They were classes of serfs and there were classes of civil servants, et cetera, and there were classes of knights and lords after that.

00:16:44.000 The United States never had that.

00:16:46.000 We don't have a culture of envy.

00:16:47.000 We've seen that when we were unwilling to elect Mitt Romney, people thought it was because he was a rich guy. 0.98

00:16:52.000 No, it's because he was a wimp. 0.51

00:16:54.000 We were willing to elect Donald Trump, who brag unendingly about his wealth, because it's not about wealth.

00:17:01.000 It's about who do we think is going to be a good strong leader.

00:17:04.000 But this country does have a weakness for racism, especially if you teach it and inculcate it into our children.

00:17:11.000 If you propagandize them and make them the little red guard to go around and turning their parents and their friends, and it's horrible what we're doing to them.

00:17:18.000 What they were unable to do with class, they have done with race.

00:17:21.000 They're doing it to great effect.

00:17:22.000 And at the end of the day, this country, we've learned in Afghanistan, all we've learned is what we largely already knew, that a lot of the rot that we're experiencing, the military is not immune to it. 0.93

00:17:33.000 It's also in there.

00:17:34.000 That's right.

00:17:34.000 We have failures in our healthcare system and our insurance industry.

00:17:37.000 Our corporations have turned on us.

00:17:39.000 We have failures in our military.

00:17:41.000 We have failures in our politics.

00:17:42.000 Our media was broken.

00:17:43.000 Some of our churches still haven't even opened their doors for fear of human diseases.

00:17:49.000 It seems like a lot of our institutions that are so essential to this country are failing.

00:17:53.000 And this racism stuff has just masked it over and tried to make it seem like it's systemic. 0.96

00:17:59.000 There was a stupid superintendent just nearby from Washington, D.C., who said that they had to close the schools last year, but now they're welcoming them back, welcoming kids back. 0.98

00:18:07.000 They closed them, he said, because of the dual pandemics of COVID-19 and systemic racism. 1.00

00:18:13.000 That is a patent stupid thing to say. 0.99

00:18:16.000 This person should be fired, but instead, this person is in charge of teaching your children. 1.00

00:18:19.000 They should be teaching your children math.

00:18:21.000 They're not.

00:18:21.000 They should be teaching them literature.

00:18:23.000 They should be teaching them biology.

00:18:23.000 They're not.

00:18:24.000 They're not.

00:18:25.000 Instead, they're just trying to raise them in their own ideology.

00:18:28.000 They're taking the job of parents away from them. 0.98

00:18:30.000 And fortunately, because of COVID-19 and all the stupid school closures, all the cameras are now in the classroom. 0.97

00:18:37.000 And parents all over, non-political, apolitical, liberal, conservative, have woken up and seen, holy smokes, these teachers are taking my job away from me and they're indoctrinating my kids and they're standing up and it's great. 0.97

00:18:50.000 Yeah, it's hopefully the beginning of a real political movement.

00:18:53.000 We're seeing that in Scottsdale right now, where the Scottsdale Unified School District will not do in-person meetings.

00:18:59.000 They only do virtual for safety.

00:19:01.000 And I mean, they're, yeah, of course they are.

00:19:04.000 They're mandating masks.

00:19:05.000 They're sending out these guidelines to parent to kids saying, tell us about your parents, right?

00:19:11.000 Tell us about what the conversations are happening at home.

00:19:14.000 It's like the Junior Anti-Sex League in 84, right?

00:19:16.000 It's exactly the same thing.

00:19:18.000 Similar to the little red guard in China. 0.75

00:19:22.000 This all acts in a pattern, unfortunately.

00:19:25.000 But we don't know how this will end because there's so many different variables and also kind of moving parts to this.

00:19:33.000 So we do have this weakness for racism and white people in particular and white conservatives, they get really anxious whenever this conversation comes up.

00:19:42.000 I'm not one of those people.

00:19:43.000 I went to a high school that was really racially diverse.

00:19:45.000 I was a minority as a white kid.

00:19:47.000 So I've never like, we need to have a conversation about race.

00:19:49.000 I've always been like, what are you talking about?

00:19:51.000 Like, I don't, it's never kind of phased me.

00:19:54.000 How much of this, Chris, and the reason I'm saying this, I didn't grow up in Winnetka.

00:19:57.000 I don't know if you know Chicago.

00:19:58.000 I grew up in Wheeling, two totally different, you know, areas.

00:20:01.000 How much of this is driven by kind of white liberal guilt or even white conservative guilt of being around nothing but white people and being told that's the worst thing ever?

00:20:10.000 I think you're completely right. 0.64

00:20:11.000 The vast majority of the people who are driving this are white liberals.

00:20:16.000 And they've got, it's part of this weird, strange new religion, this secular religion that they have, where in the Christian tradition, the only person, except for God and through his grace, that can get you through heaven is you and your works, at least in some of the Christian traditions and some of the things that you do.

00:20:31.000 If you've committed a sin, you must confess.

00:20:33.000 You must do penance.

00:20:34.000 You must make up for that sin.

00:20:36.000 We saw it on hysterical display with Ralph Northam in Virginia.

00:20:39.000 Yes, that's right.

00:20:40.000 He got busted for dressing like a Klansman.

00:20:42.000 And he came out and said, as my punishment, all of your children will take racial sensitivity courses. 0.99

00:20:48.000 Now, I don't think a 10-year-old could have come up with a more ridiculous punishment. 0.89

00:20:52.000 That seems like something that I would say to my dad, well, I guess I'll only have one helping a dessert tonight.

00:20:56.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:20:57.000 I got in trouble.

00:20:58.000 It's completely insane.

00:20:59.000 But over and over again, from Nancy Pelosi to Joe Biden to the Cuomos to whoever, they come up with punishments for the entirety of society to atone for the sins that they refuse to.

00:21:10.000 We see it in their, we originally just thought it was blank hypocrisy when people would take their private jets to these global warming things.

00:21:19.000 People would shut down coal mines, fly in like Bloomberg on a jet, tell all the poor people who are now unemployed and prone to alcoholism and drug addiction and child abuse that they just saved their kids from asthma and then fly home to New York and they're living their mansion.

00:21:32.000 We thought that was just hypocrisy, but it's worse than that.

00:21:35.000 It's something that makes them feel good.

00:21:37.000 It's their version of prayer.

00:21:39.000 It's super creepy.

00:21:40.000 And that's what I'm saying.

00:21:41.000 Yeah, so I want to talk about that.

00:21:43.000 So I'm really big on the vaccine thing.

00:21:45.000 I don't expect you to be.

00:21:46.000 The vaccine mandate thing.

00:21:48.000 I think it's so well.

00:21:49.000 Yeah.

00:21:49.000 And I'll be honest, Chris, how many conservatives that are playing along with this has just disgusted me, to be perfectly honest.

00:21:56.000 And so I want to talk about that, but to kind of, can you talk more about how it's not just hypocrisy?

00:22:01.000 Because the, you know, Jen Psaki comes out on Friday and she says that we're not mandating the vaccine for White House staff.

00:22:08.000 Meanwhile, I just got an email right here that says, my son-in-law is a West Point graduate and he has three and a half years to fulfill his obligation to the Army.

00:22:15.000 He's against the vaccine, yet they're being told that if he doesn't get it by September 15th, he's going to be dishonorably discharged for refusal to take it.

00:22:22.000 He'll have to go back and pay hundreds of thousands of dollars, liable dollars of education.

00:22:26.000 How do you advise?

00:22:27.000 I have no good advice to this one listener, but can you talk about how this contradiction, this hypocrisy is actually something a lot different?

00:22:34.000 Can you help explain that?

00:22:36.000 Because that's really interesting to me.

00:22:38.000 Absolutely.

00:22:39.000 They always appropriate the different languages of actual religions when they're trying to preach their fake religion.

00:22:44.000 So the things like love thy neighbor was a code for inform on your neighbor if you see them outside or talking to your children, telling the local priests.

00:22:54.000 These are the things love thy neighbor is.

00:22:57.000 Snitch on your neighbor.

00:22:58.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:22:59.000 Exactly. 1.00

00:23:00.000 And Republicans are so incredibly weak and so pathetic on this issue with very, very reasons. 1.00

00:23:06.000 It's so disgusting. 0.99

00:23:08.000 This whole thing has really exposed that all of the Republicans who said that they were now down with the populist conservative agenda were actually just afraid of Donald Trump and they weren't actually down with anything.

00:23:19.000 We spent the last five, six years talking about how if a factory shuts down in a small town that has no other options and that family is destitute.

00:23:29.000 They cannot sell their home anymore.

00:23:30.000 They can't get out of there.

00:23:31.000 If someone hasn't had access to a grocery store for 30 miles and they've got three kids and have to work two jobs, that hurts them.

00:23:38.000 We've taken a renewed interest, at least lip service to these people.

00:23:41.000 Now we're turning around and saying, yeah, if your local factory, your local college, your local, this or the military or whatever wants to tell you, you must take this, you must inject this largely untested, at least not long-term tested, no matter what the government's saying right now.

00:23:57.000 You're seeing inject it into your blood, despite the fact that you are a low-risk young person or someone who might have religious problems, or you're fired, or you can't shop at this store.

00:24:06.000 You can't go into this Walmart.

00:24:07.000 That's just an example.

00:24:08.000 I don't know if they're doing that.

00:24:09.000 Or other restaurants.

00:24:11.000 other places.

00:24:12.000 That's the kind of thing that politicians living in wealthy suburbs and cities say, well, yeah, there's 50 restaurants in your hometown.

00:24:18.000 There's five grocery stores.

00:24:19.000 There's a ton of jobs.

00:24:20.000 Just work for another lobbying firm.

00:24:22.000 But they've completely already forgotten these lessons.

00:24:25.000 And then they go ahead and have the absolute gall to blame Ronald Reagan for this and say, well, Ronald Reagan would say that we shouldn't ever get in the way of having private companies force people and children to take injections that aren't fully tested into their bodies against parental rights because freedom.

00:24:42.000 That's completely insane. 1.00

00:24:43.000 It's just stupid, stupid thinking. 1.00

00:24:46.000 And we see that over again for the David Frenches and other pathetic people who've just come out and said, essentially, I don't believe in critical race theory or I don't believe in forcing someone to do this, but I will fight to the death for your right to teach that religious indoctrination. 1.00

00:25:01.000 If I have to hear that Voltaire quote again, I'm going to vomit. 0.96

00:25:04.000 Yeah, right? 0.99

00:25:05.000 No, but it's so cliche and it's sloppy and it's lazy and it's just quite honestly ignorant. 0.96

00:25:09.000 It really is. 0.95

00:25:11.000 It's kind of like this bumper sticker conservatism.

00:25:14.000 Like, yeah, you know, I don't like your degenerate lifestyle, but I will fight to the death to make sure that other children can become degenerate.

00:25:20.000 Like, really, that's force it on my children?

00:25:22.000 Yeah.

00:25:23.000 He's like fight to the death for you to do that.

00:25:24.000 Yeah, like, actually, I'm not going to fight to the death for Drag Queen Story. 0.74

00:25:27.000 I think that's really disgusting.

00:25:29.000 And like, David French is a distraction, I think, largely. 0.85

00:25:32.000 I think it's like a psych, I think it's a psyop campaign for us to not worry about actual Republicans.

00:25:38.000 And because every, you know, kind of in our world, I can't tell you how many times David French has brought up at the Claremont Institute.

00:25:44.000 It was like every 45 minutes.

00:25:46.000 David French.

00:25:47.000 It was like, yeah, okay.

00:25:48.000 But yeah, he is kind of like the intellectual vanguard, I guess, of like these super weak Republicans in the sense of this.

00:25:56.000 It's like he doesn't have a lot of power, but he says out loud what a lot of the Republicans won't say out loud.

00:26:02.000 Does that make sense?

00:26:03.000 Like he will say out loud that, oh, yeah, I think that private companies should be able to mandate vaccines.

00:26:08.000 And you said something super interesting, and I wrote this down, that they were afraid of Donald Trump.

00:26:13.000 That's why they gave lip service to the populist movement.

00:26:16.000 Talk about that.

00:26:17.000 That they were never on board for actually a re-renaissance of American manufacturing or self-sufficiency agenda or family values.

00:26:26.000 They were just afraid of the political power that Donald Trump had in the moment.

00:26:29.000 Talk about that.

00:26:30.000 Well, we knew that that was true for some of the people.

00:26:33.000 For example, it was fairly clearly true that Mitch McConnell was going to do what he was going to do, whether it was President Romney or President Bush or President Trump in there, which is confirm federal judges that he liked and work and protect his campaign finance laws while screaming MAGA and pumping both fists in the air.

00:26:51.000 And it totally worked on a huge amount of people.

00:26:52.000 They just went along and said, okay, I guess you're not passing any of the things that we asked you to pass, any of the things that we were elected on passing, but you are saying MAGA.

00:27:00.000 A lot of the other politicians at least did a more convincing job than he did of saying, of running on it, saying, I support president.

00:27:06.000 I'm with the president.

00:27:08.000 I can name so many examples.

00:27:10.000 I mean, one after the other in so many different states.

00:27:15.000 And sorry, go ahead.

00:27:16.000 I mean, I could go through an exhaustive list of people that, you know, did the whole kind of rally thing.

00:27:21.000 And the next thing you know, you're like, what?

00:27:22.000 I mean, they go to the rallies, they say all the good things.

00:27:25.000 And they go to D.C. You're like, really?

00:27:26.000 That's like Shelly Moore Capito from West Virginia is an example, right?

00:27:30.000 Tom Tillis is another example who would show up at every single rally imaginable.

00:27:34.000 That's probably the best example.

00:27:36.000 But talk about how it was never an embrace of the Trump movement.

00:27:39.000 It was like, I hope he doesn't try to primary me.

00:27:42.000 Yeah, I think that was essentially it.

00:27:44.000 And just like you said, you'd see them going to all these rallies that you were going around and visiting as well yourself and speaking at. 0.98

00:27:50.000 You see them at these rallies, and it's because they're not leaders, our politicians are weak and pathetic followers. 0.96

00:27:55.000 They just are going with whatever they think is in charge. 0.91

00:27:59.000 The right was hoping that they were standing up for something that had reawakened, that there was this shifting of the parties from regional northern parties, essentially, to southern parties to ones that are based on ideas.

00:28:13.000 That the left's complete insistence on forsaking all of the working class people and all the American citizens for foreigners and for the elites was going to sink it.

00:28:23.000 The Republicans would actually be able to be a party that stood for something.

00:28:26.000 You could be proud to call yourself a Republican, which it's very rare that I have been in our history.

00:28:31.000 And it turned out that unsurprisingly, all of those guys weren't for it.

00:28:36.000 Now, I thought that it was going to continue, that with forces like Ron DeSantis, who's one of the biggest forces in the GOP, former President Trump still around, with some of his close allies still really pushing for this stuff, like Senator Josh Hawley and others, still really raising a clamor on this, that they would actually stay in line a little bit longer. 0.98

00:28:56.000 But it shows you that even though some of them are still somewhat staying in line a little bit, they're willing to punish Liz Cheney and others who are complete fools and everything that touch turns to garbage. 0.97

00:29:07.000 When it comes down to that, do they actually understand what we're talking about? 0.96

00:29:11.000 It exposes themselves with the COVID-19 passport, vaccine, passport, corporatism, and this new regime.

00:29:18.000 And when they enforce this, you know, it's only a matter of time before that changes.

00:29:22.000 My staff doesn't feel safe if you come into work or come into my restaurant unless you've taken this course on critical race theory.

00:29:28.000 My staff doesn't feel safe unless you've disavowed your whiteness and disavowed their whiteness before you come in. 0.87

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00:30:41.000 Well, and so this is a great segue.

00:30:43.000 I'm sure you've read Age of Entitlement by Christopher Caldwell or heard of it, maybe.

00:30:48.000 I've heard of it and read reviews.

00:30:50.000 Yeah.

00:30:51.000 So I have it right here.

00:30:52.000 I've become his like biggest book promoter.

00:30:54.000 I'm going through it meticulously.

00:30:56.000 It says on the front cover, Tucker Carlson, one of the smartest things I've ever read.

00:31:00.000 And so at Claremont, we went through this in great detail.

00:31:04.000 And the argument he makes is that the Civil Rights Act ushered in a new regime that no one ever wants to talk about.

00:31:13.000 That it was a regime of the destruction of private property.

00:31:17.000 And so I was at a church yesterday and someone said, well, Charlie, how is it that I have a private business, this restaurant owner, right?

00:31:24.000 Super desperate guy, quite honestly.

00:31:26.000 He says, why do I now have to be enforcing vaccine passports for my customers?

00:31:31.000 And I have to wear masks and going through all these measures.

00:31:34.000 And I said, well, who's ever to say that you were a private business?

00:31:38.000 He said, what do you mean?

00:31:39.000 I said, we ended private businesses in the 60s.

00:31:43.000 And so talk about that, Chris.

00:31:45.000 That was a transformation.

00:31:47.000 It was a third founding of the country.

00:31:49.000 And that's not to say that the intentions of the Civil Rights Act were wrong.

00:31:52.000 That is not what I'm saying.

00:31:53.000 But there could have been a much more prudently way to execute the intentions of trying to have non-discrimination laws versus a whole regime of the eradication of private businesses.

00:32:03.000 And that's what Senator Barry Goldwater's opposition to the 64 Civil Rights Act was based on.

00:32:08.000 Senator Barry Goldwater is someone who, in his private business, had desegregated his furniture store before anyone else in the state really had, who'd been helping out different charities, who was a big giver to the NAACP.

00:32:22.000 He was someone who was at the forefront of trying to be a member of his community.

00:32:26.000 And what he saw in the Civil Rights Act was true, which is that it's a very dangerous line, as sad as it is, and as good as your intentions might be, to tell people that they're not allowed to discriminate against people. 0.59

00:32:38.000 Where does it end?

00:32:39.000 And what are the protected classes?

00:32:41.000 Of course, we've never contained no shirts and no shoes or rules like that.

00:32:46.000 And people are allowed to discriminate against or age restrictions in businesses.

00:32:50.000 That makes sense.

00:32:51.000 But skin color, rightly, has repulsed us. 1.00

00:32:54.000 However, they've stepped over our line here when they say, well, you can't decide who your customers are.

00:32:59.000 That's exactly right.

00:33:00.000 And when they change the definition of discrimination going from there on to, well, you have to make cakes that make a mockery of sex and truth and religion, despite the fact that they're grossly offensive to you and are blaspheme against your God, then you have to do that because now the customer is in charge, not the seller.

00:33:18.000 We're in charge of society.

00:33:19.000 You're basically a public utility.

00:33:22.000 When they say that you have to give your COVID-19 19 vaccine passports, you have to check the health papers of customers before they come in.

00:33:30.000 That's the fruit of this.

00:33:31.000 So that was that a lot of people meant well, and not very many people at the time were starting up to notice how dangerous this was.

00:33:39.000 But it's gone off the rails and it's a very big problem now because they change it over and over again.

00:33:43.000 And before long, your church, your deacon, your rabbi, your priest will not be able to give marriages because they're going to lose their right as a civil servant who can even sign off on marriage documents.

00:33:56.000 Before that, they might lose their tax documents if they're willing to stand against the gay marriage regime. 0.97

00:34:01.000 Well, and what's so important about what you just said is that the way we ushered it in, and Caldwell does the scholarship on this that no one's ever done, was that it was done hyper-aggressively, super quickly, and a one-size-fits-all.

00:34:15.000 He goes through all the different titles of the Civil Rights Act and all the divisions of the DOJ that was created.

00:34:21.000 And it even goes through some public polling that shows that most Americans did not want a fast implementation of this.

00:34:28.000 They wanted to make sure that private businesses were not going to be steamrolled just because of some sort of an accusation or investigated.

00:34:38.000 And look, Barry Goldwater was obviously attacked greatly as being a racist for it, which he, of course, wasn't.

00:34:44.000 In fact, Goldwater was, he was an anti-segregation guy.

00:34:47.000 If you actually study the history of Goldwater, what's important is Goldwater said, wait a second, once you usher in this new belief system that the federal government can come into private businesses, and he made a slippery slope argument.

00:34:59.000 People said it was a logical fallacy, but we're learning slippery slopes are not logical fallacies, okay?

00:35:04.000 They're just not.

00:35:05.000 They're just, it's kind of the way things are working now. 0.83

00:35:08.000 That, yeah, all of a sudden your church is going to have to marry a homosexual couple. 0.98

00:35:11.000 Like, that's where this is headed.

00:35:13.000 And so, anyway, I just, I find that to be a elites.

00:35:18.000 Talk about that.

00:35:19.000 Yes, because they could always go somewhere else.

00:35:21.000 It didn't impact the elites.

00:35:22.000 You could still have a country club that doesn't allow in Jewish people. 0.72

00:35:26.000 There's a lot of, there's country clubs all over the country that don't allow in black people.

00:35:29.000 There's a ranking Democratic member from an island that apparently wants to join his beach club.

00:35:34.000 Although the funny thing about that is there were no actual complainants, just a newspaper article that was angry.

00:35:39.000 There were Jewish country clubs, Christian country clubs, male college fraternities, female college sororities.

00:35:44.000 Those people weren't impacted.

00:35:46.000 Now, Barry Goldwater was not allowed into his local country club in Arizona because he was part Jewish. 1.00

00:35:50.000 He'd actually experienced this.

00:35:52.000 He didn't want to join a club that wouldn't have him in the end.

00:35:55.000 But just like in all of these things, it was punishment for you, but not for me.

00:36:00.000 That's exactly right.

00:36:01.000 Well, and so the elites were always able, in fact, they wanted the discrimination.

00:36:06.000 What's interesting, though, Chris, is that the Civil Rights Act regime is actually going to come under great attack because blacks now want their own dorms. 0.95

00:36:15.000 They want their own stuff, which is against the Civil Rights Act. 0.54

00:36:18.000 You can't do that.

00:36:19.000 And so if they want to go scrap it, then that's a different conversation.

00:36:22.000 Now, what does give me hope, Chris, is this conversation used to be a thought crime five years ago.

00:36:27.000 The fact that two conservatives in 2021 can talk about the Civil Rights Act with at least some sort of a critical lens, pretty remarkable.

00:36:34.000 That used to be like a forbidden conversation.

00:36:37.000 But I also think that part of it, I want to ask your question about this, is that we're able to have more of these enlightened conversations and bring people back towards views that I think are more real because we don't care about being called a racist anymore.

00:36:51.000 Isn't that really the true release mechanism?

00:36:53.000 Once you kind of release that, then you're really able to kind of speak your mind.

00:36:57.000 I think that is what keeps people handcuffed in most of these situations.

00:37:01.000 I think you're right.

00:37:02.000 Once you're willing to call everything racist, whether it's being on time or even working hard and disciplined, like places like the Smithsonian have called racist, which is an incredibly racist statement or the ability to get an identification as apparently racist.

00:37:13.000 Once you've called everything racist, then nothing is actually racist.

00:37:16.000 You're able to talk about this.

00:37:18.000 It's important for people to remember that there are some certain third rails.

00:37:22.000 The chances of the United States ever repeals the Civil Rights Act.

00:37:25.000 No, and I'm not even recommending that.

00:37:27.000 I'm simply giving a critical analysis of the unintended consequences of what the law did.

00:37:32.000 Yeah, I mean, that's life.

00:37:33.000 Sorry, but go ahead.

00:37:34.000 Yes.

00:37:35.000 You're able to actually have these conversations.

00:37:37.000 I had an interesting conversation at the end of a Culture War podcast I did on this, on the subject of diversity is not our strength with David Azarad, who's associated with Hillsdale.

00:37:49.000 Exactly.

00:37:51.000 And he said that we actually don't know if we're able to win yet because we've only just begun to fight.

00:37:57.000 We've been on retreat for decades now, but that's because we've been afraid to fight back.

00:38:02.000 There's no way that 10 years ago or 15 years ago, a governor like Asa Hutchinson would have been pilloried by the right and called on the most powerful show, Tucker Carlson, to be stripped down because his thing of just appealing to racism.

00:38:17.000 That's exactly right.

00:38:18.000 To go sit on some Walmart board so that he can get another yacht in Jamaica while his country burns. 0.82

00:38:23.000 Like, leave our party.

00:38:24.000 Thank you.

00:38:24.000 Thanks for shopping.

00:38:26.000 Yeah, it's exactly right.

00:38:27.000 And it gives me hope how many times recently we've seen Republicans who've tried to just go back to their corporate BS and they've been pilloried and they haven't gotten away and they've had their careers damaged and destroyed.

00:38:39.000 Well, people like Megron DeSanis, who's largely at the forefront of this, as much as his legislature will let him be on all of these issues, who some under the Democrats know that they should target because they might win or lose in 2024 based on if he wins or lose in this next governor's race, that he's a hero and the other ones are not.

00:38:57.000 And it's because he's speaking up loudly and saying all the things that the Republicans pretended to believe in, but don't actually believe in.

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00:40:54.000 I said, well, first of all, the fact you have to ask that question is that you should go find another job.

00:40:58.000 But I said, look, I said, first of all, he's in a battleground state, which all of us recognize.

00:41:02.000 He doesn't have to be this base.

00:41:04.000 Yet he has not done one thing to betray the conservative promise.

00:41:09.000 He signed bills prohibiting men from playing in female sports.

00:41:12.000 He signed anti-rioting bills.

00:41:14.000 He's been phenomenal on the virus and the lockdown.

00:41:16.000 He's been on all of it.

00:41:18.000 And that speaks to us, not just from a policy standpoint, like you and I are similar.

00:41:23.000 It's like the policy stuff is fine, but also from a tonal standpoint and from a philosophical standpoint, he's unwavering in his commitment to his voters.

00:41:32.000 He has a willingness to defend people that put him in political power and also kind of keep Florida nice.

00:41:39.000 You go there.

00:41:39.000 It kind of works.

00:41:40.000 You know, there's police officers.

00:41:42.000 There's not widespread crime.

00:41:44.000 It's enjoyable.

00:41:45.000 And I think that's kind of the characteristic.

00:41:47.000 So you would say that we haven't even started to fight.

00:41:50.000 That like, actually, the real test is what are things going to look like 25 years from now?

00:41:56.000 Exactly.

00:41:56.000 And, you know, I tell you, Florida does look nice.

00:41:58.000 My folks spent half the year down in Naples.

00:42:00.000 I just lost my neighbor and your friend Benny Johnson to Florida.

00:42:03.000 And I, on dark weeks after our drive-by tunnel that's completely impassable because of tents run by the men's ball and the drug addicted, I get on the internet and I start looking at houses down in Florida.

00:42:14.000 That's right.

00:42:14.000 Sarasota is really nice.

00:42:16.000 I'm telling you.

00:42:17.000 Sarasota is very conservative, voted for Trump.

00:42:20.000 No anti-rioting laws, BLM is not welcome. 1.00

00:42:23.000 But yeah, I mean, look, it just, and what's really interesting about the Florida model is that because it has so many senior citizens, it ends up being more conservative. 0.53

00:42:31.000 And now there's this new influx of like 20, 30, and 40-year-olds that are all conservative.

00:42:35.000 And so Florida's kind of like Alabama now.

00:42:38.000 It's actually more conservative than Alabama in some ways.

00:42:41.000 Definitely more conservative than Arkansas.

00:42:43.000 But yeah, I have nothing negative to say about Ron DeSantis, despite everyone's best efforts.

00:42:47.000 You know, I kind of sit, I sat down with, I won't say his name.

00:42:50.000 He's a very, he's a hard sell.

00:42:52.000 He hates all politicians.

00:42:53.000 You would know who it is.

00:42:55.000 And I said, we were talking about it.

00:42:57.000 I said, okay, tell me one thing Ron DeSantis has done wrong.

00:42:59.000 He said.

00:43:00.000 He hasn't banned abortion yet.

00:43:02.000 I said, okay.

00:43:02.000 I mean, all right.

00:43:03.000 Okay.

00:43:04.000 I said, that's all you got.

00:43:05.000 You know what I mean?

00:43:05.000 That's true.

00:43:06.000 That's important.

00:43:07.000 There's no laughing matter, but that's true.

00:43:10.000 He hasn't gone all out on certain things, but he's fighting this culture. 0.55

00:43:14.000 And people don't remember, or sometimes people forget that he was about 50,000 votes from us having Governor Andrew Gillam, someone who was later caught in an extremely compromising and inappropriate position involving drugs and nudity.

00:43:29.000 That was how close they were to Florida being an entirely different state.

00:43:32.000 And the legislature there ought to wake up.

00:43:35.000 And the Republicans out here ought to wake up to the fact that this has largely been pushed by one person and the voters who support him and the movement that's behind him and those ideas that he is really latched onto.

00:43:48.000 For the last 20 or so, 30 years, the or 40, 50, 60 years, a lot of the Republicans have been arguing from the left sandbox, using their facts, using their ideas, using, oh, yeah, diversity is our strength.

00:44:01.000 Of course, we admit that.

00:44:02.000 We're more diverse than you.

00:44:04.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:44:05.000 Pale pastels as opposed to bold banners and just shameful imitations, mirror images of what the left is doing.

00:44:14.000 That's starting to change.

00:44:15.000 We're starting to, as opposed to just being defensive, being on the offensive.

00:44:19.000 And that is a great and important moment because every time the Republicans come in, they roll back a couple of the things temporarily.

00:44:26.000 Every time the left comes in, they absolutely bulldoze and get and get another couple miles of front space for themselves.

00:44:33.000 So it's been a constant retreat.

00:44:35.000 And that might be what we're doomed to as a movement's trying to conserve as opposed to destroy.

00:44:40.000 It's difficult to conserve, but at least now we are on the offensive and trying to build something that's positive and that is trying to make this country a better place.

00:44:48.000 So when people decide are they going to vote for whichever Republican nominee it is, are they going to vote for Republican congressman or senator in this next election?

00:44:55.000 They're going to look at what Ron DeSantis is doing because he's one of the governors out there, one of the Republican leaders who actually building.

00:45:01.000 That's what the GOP ought to be doing.

00:45:04.000 I totally agree.

00:45:05.000 And the last question I want to ask you, and this also gives me hope, is that it seems that right-wing intelligentsia is going more in this direction, too, right?

00:45:14.000 Where like the Jonah Goldbergs, Jonah Goldberg used to be considered to be like the preeminent mind on the right.

00:45:20.000 I will say his book, Liberal Fascism, is pretty good.

00:45:22.000 And that was considered to be profound back then.

00:45:24.000 Now it's just considered to be common sense.

00:45:26.000 But that kind of world of intellectual neocons and neoliberals, I will say that from you to Seth Davis to the Federalists to Tucker to others, the energy and the thoughtful commentary is kind of all around this idea of American renewal and of a sovereign nation and strong families and social conservatism.

00:45:48.000 Sean Davis, and not Seth Davis, I'm sorry, I'm doing too many things at once.

00:45:51.000 So can you help?

00:45:53.000 Would you agree with that?

00:45:54.000 Or is that just kind of a self-created echo chamber that I live in, which is kind of nice, actually?

00:45:59.000 Thank you for including me in that austere group of people.

00:46:01.000 It's an honor.

00:46:03.000 I feel the same way.

00:46:05.000 I think a lot of the folks, I mean, Jonah Goldberg's book, Liberal Fascism, which was good, is only worth reading right now because it's obvious.

00:46:12.000 And to see how far and how pathetic he's become as a person, he's living his character. 0.81

00:46:17.000 He is. 1.00

00:46:18.000 That's the crazy thing: you are the liberal fascists.

00:46:22.000 A lot of these people, whether you're George Willow and his bow ties and his martini, ordering his assistant to change his party affiliation from his townhouse in Georgetown, he wrote that publicly.

00:46:31.000 That's not even a comic.

00:46:33.000 Jonah Goldberg, yeah, he literally wrote that in the Washington Post.

00:46:36.000 I informed my assistant to change my party registration.

00:46:39.000 I don't even know how, well, I don't know how I would do that.

00:46:42.000 I guess go to the DMV.

00:46:43.000 Is that even legal?

00:46:44.000 Don't you have to sign the documents yourself?

00:46:46.000 There's no shot it's legal.

00:46:47.000 Yes, servant, go change my affiliation.

00:46:51.000 They've become complete and total characters of themselves.

00:46:54.000 And because of that, they've become less impactful.

00:46:58.000 Some of the people who are out there right now who are writing, who are starting to come up, who are getting some voice out there, are doing absolutely phenomenal work for it.

00:47:06.000 And it's the conservative intellectuals right now, where it is, is more vibrant, in my opinion, as well, than it has been in a very long time.

00:47:15.000 And at the same time, it's not worshipful of any one person, like, or just fearful of any one person, like it seems the GOP has been without getting the ideas.

00:47:25.000 A lot of the writers and a lot of the reporters and a lot of the thinkers of these days and a lot of the organizations like GAF and TPUSA seem to be actually getting a much better idea of this is what we stand for.

00:47:36.000 This is what we believe.

00:47:37.000 And this is the party that we want in this country.

00:47:40.000 I agree.

00:47:40.000 Well, Chris, thank you so much for joining us.

00:47:42.000 The Federalist is a wonderful publication and you do great work.

00:47:47.000 This is going to get a lot of people listening.

00:47:49.000 What do you want to plug as we're titled the episode Diversity is Not Our Strength?

00:47:52.000 So that should go over wonderfully.

00:47:54.000 Yeah, right.

00:47:55.000 I think you can tune into our work at thefederalist.com and you can follow.

00:47:59.000 We have a weekly show on this where you'll see stories like this called The Culture War, which is out in BPTV and The Federalists.

00:48:06.000 Awesome.

00:48:07.000 Chris, thanks so much for joining, man.

00:48:08.000 Have a great day.

00:48:09.000 Thank you.

00:48:09.000 You too.

00:48:13.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - August 26, 2021

Diversity is Not Our Strength with Chris Bedford

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