00:00:06.000Chris Bedford from the Federalist, very smart guy and good friend of this program, makes the argument that diversity is, in fact, not our strength.
00:00:15.000That diversity can, in fact, be a weakness.
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00:03:16.000I will tell you that people from my neighbor to my mother were very nervous when they saw the headline of my article that was just so straight up saying, oh my gosh, what's he done?
00:03:25.000And then they read it and found that it was a pretty compelling case.
00:03:30.000It's just something that's just repeated over and over again.
00:03:33.000All the children are made to repeat it.
00:03:35.000All the corporations are made to repeat it.
00:03:37.000There was a big mural at the local butcher I like to go to across from them that said, it is our differences that bring us together.
00:03:45.000Now, that's what originally struck me about the whole thing is just the opposite, the opposite of the truth.
00:03:51.000Now, there's a lot of things that were complete differences in background, in perception, in abilities, in language, in culture will actually make a huge difference.
00:04:04.000For example, with a police force, where there may be some neighborhoods that are very inward focused, very suspicious of outsiders, maybe a different culture, maybe a different language.
00:04:13.000They're going to be a lot more comfortable speaking with someone from that culture, from that language who's a police officer than just someone who's an outsider.
00:04:21.000It's always worked, whether it's South Boston or downtown Detroit, that's been the case.
00:04:25.000However, what makes that police officer a good police officer?
00:04:28.000It's not simply that they are different.
00:04:30.000That's not what makes them a good police officer.
00:04:32.000It's that they are both united with their fellow officers of all different races and creeds and backgrounds and educations to try to come forward and protect law and order.
00:05:35.000But when we're united under one flag, under one banner, when we have to share in our common defense together, when we share in our inheritance, my black neighbors, my Hispanic neighbors, and me, we're all in this together in the city.
00:05:49.000It's what we have together that makes us stronger.
00:05:52.000So where did this incantation of diversity being our strength come from?
00:05:57.000I mean, it's obviously a third rail issue because no one wants to be called a racist, obviously, because what they're really saying is that we need to focus on what can possibly divide us.
00:06:13.000And anyone who actually looks at this analytically, you're like, this really doesn't make a lot of sense, which is what you wrote in this piece.
00:06:19.000And Tucker Carlson said something like this, I think, two years ago, and the world lost its mind, where he did kind of a monologue.
00:06:25.000He's like, you know what, actually, it's not our strength.
00:06:27.000And everyone just, including on the right, said, you're not allowed to say that.
00:07:07.000Of course, what brings them together is they taste well together in a salad.
00:07:10.000You wouldn't add hot fudge to that unless you were particularly hungover.
00:07:15.000But later on, they taught a melting pot idea because that had been rejected.
00:07:21.000We see the impact of this all over the entire planet when you mix societies.
00:07:25.000Basically, United States, until the 50s or 60s, was the only Western country that was truly multiracial in any kind of a way that had that multiracial history.
00:07:35.000Europe likes to wag their finger at the disgrace of the civil rights disorders that we had in this country in the 60s, all the race riots, all the hate.
00:08:00.000It's really just the simplest answer there possibly can be.
00:08:03.000A lot of these folks, whether you see the labor left in England that's been cheering on the West's disgraceful defeat in Afghanistan, or some of the people over here who've been cheering not just for our withdrawal, but for the manner in which it's being done, which is shameful.
00:08:20.000They don't want one that is united and strong because they think that's a supremely dangerous global imperial power and a capitalist power that can bully the world.
00:08:29.000They want us to be an equal member of the global community and they believe in more of an equitable equity member of the global community who needs to get their oil from Saudi Arabia and Russia as opposed to from the Midwest and from the North and from our neighbors in Canada, who needs them for all of these things, who needs Europe's defenses and protection, who needs France in order to defend itself.
00:08:49.000These are the countries, that's where they want this country.
00:08:53.000And by dividing us, by taking away every single thing that unites us, even baseball and football, they're trying to achieve it.
00:09:00.000Yeah, I mean, that's a good explanation.
00:09:04.000And I can't really remember the first time I ever heard this phrase.
00:09:09.000I have, I mean, it's hard to escape it.
00:09:11.000And politicians say it all the time, just kind of as a catch-all to kind of just get people to start clapping.
00:09:18.000And then you don't have to explain what your beliefs are or anything actually significant or meaningful, right?
00:09:30.000But isn't it in some way sort of appealing, though, right, Chris?
00:09:33.000Because within the statement, and I don't want to go too much into the statement.
00:09:36.000I want to actually get into the philosophy, but I think the statement, there's something here where there's kind of a virtue signaling component to it.
00:09:42.000There's kind of a moral righteousness that I'm a better person than my grandfather because he didn't think diversity was our strength.
00:09:50.000He thought that continuity was a strength, or he thought that he thought that unity was a strength.
00:09:59.000Isn't there kind of a part of this in that phrase where like we are now going to say that strength actually doesn't come from achieving anything meaningful, but just having a bunch of people that look different?
00:10:26.000Of course, it's not across the board, but it's typical of my neighbors at least.
00:10:30.000Everyone who's got the biggest, most obvious virtue signaling sign in their front yard probably isn't going to church.
00:10:35.000They probably don't have that much outside of their political religion that makes them feel a lot better.
00:10:40.000They think that they're so advanced that they don't need America, that they're citizens of the world.
00:10:46.000They've always had people who are kind of like this in some way, who didn't feel any kind of fealty to their country or to their city or to their clan or whichever group you want to go back with.
00:10:57.000But now it's infected our upper classes, affected our ruling classes, one of the things that makes it absolutely particularly dangerous.
00:11:05.000And they've tried to make every kind of defense of this country into some kind of toxicity.
00:11:10.000If you defend the United States and say it was great, you're not talking about the country that defeated fascism.
00:11:14.000You're talking about slavery and you're talking about evilness.
00:11:17.000You're not talking about the country that eventually ended slavery worldwide along with England.
00:11:23.000You're talking about all of the evils that we've done.
00:11:27.000And when you say diversity is not your strength, I had people from Media Matters for America putting my quote up next to David Duke, that idiot Klan leader, wannabe, down there in the South, who said, diversity is not our strength.
00:11:39.000They say, well, you can't say that because he said it.
00:11:48.000If you say that unity is something that holds us together and makes us stronger, an undeniable statement that compare you to Mussolini and the fascism, this is the kind of attacks they want, but it's a constant shaming thing.
00:11:59.000And at the end of the day, it's ridiculous.
00:12:01.000If you go through all the different things that they're willing to call racist, whether they're Jimmy's on top of your ice cream cone or sandwiches because some cultures use pitas or use tortillas instead, the sandwiches are apparently racist now.
00:12:14.000You go through it all, it just exactly deserves that reaction.
00:12:17.000If there's laughter and it deserves scorn.
00:12:19.000Now, the people themselves who are trying to tar you as a racist are absolutely worthy of your scorn and contempt.
00:12:25.000But the people, the things that they're saying, just dismiss them and laugh at them.
00:12:30.000They're only as powerful as the mob is willing to make them.
00:12:33.000And if you just look at them and just straight up say, you know, this is a ridiculous assertion you're making, it takes a lot of that power away.
00:12:42.000How many years have I been telling you about Relief Factor?
00:12:45.000Truth is, I know millions of people, in fact, that over 100 million people that are struggling with some kind of pain, whether it knee pain, back pain, joint pain, back pain, and exercise or getting older or whatever it might be.
00:12:56.000I'm so impressed with the team at Relief Factor.
00:13:20.000You bring up an important point there, which is when you immediately say something that is against the regime, they'll say, oh, well, you do know that Hitler also said that.
00:13:32.000So my favorite response is, well, you know, you have a dog and Hitler had a dog too.
00:13:36.000And so I have a lot of questions about you.
00:13:38.000Again, that's not a unique take, but it's the whole Hitler has a dog thing, right?
00:14:34.000It's going to be a very disturbing couple of years, I'm afraid, for a middle-class America.
00:14:39.000But the hyper-racialization of our country is almost like a hypnotic.
00:14:43.000It gets people to focus on things that really don't matter while there's real issues that are occurring they don't want you to actually talk about.
00:14:51.000Can you talk about, can you speak to that where we're not properly ordering really what's happening in our country and instead focusing on seemingly kind of not just fringe, but just kind of settled issues that they want to resurrect for political power?
00:15:08.000We can see the proof in all of the polling that this country has done over the past 15 years or so, for example, on racial relations in this country.
00:15:16.00015 years ago, a majority of black people in America thought that race relations were good and were improving.
00:15:22.000An even bigger majority of white people, unsurprisingly, thought the same.
00:15:26.000Now both of those numbers have been halved.
00:15:29.000There is a minority of both groups of people who think that race relations are good.
00:15:50.000You see that in front groups that at lunch tables.
00:15:52.000We're making it a school policy to make people different, to come down from the top, to order them to sit across from each other, to not make friends, not understand each other.
00:16:12.000Why we've seen this so much is because the socialists and the hard left have always tried to divide people in the world over class differences.
00:16:20.000When you were in Europe or you were in Tsarist Russia, or you were in Asia, or even in India to some extent when they had some early successes, you were able to do that because there absolutely were class differences, differences that were marked by your accent, by who your parents were, by the peerage, by your land.
00:16:37.000They were classes of serfs and there were classes of civil servants, et cetera, and there were classes of knights and lords after that.
00:16:54.000We were willing to elect Donald Trump, who brag unendingly about his wealth, because it's not about wealth.
00:17:01.000It's about who do we think is going to be a good strong leader.
00:17:04.000But this country does have a weakness for racism, especially if you teach it and inculcate it into our children.
00:17:11.000If you propagandize them and make them the little red guard to go around and turning their parents and their friends, and it's horrible what we're doing to them.
00:17:18.000What they were unable to do with class, they have done with race.
00:17:22.000And at the end of the day, this country, we've learned in Afghanistan, all we've learned is what we largely already knew, that a lot of the rot that we're experiencing, the military is not immune to it.
00:17:43.000Some of our churches still haven't even opened their doors for fear of human diseases.
00:17:49.000It seems like a lot of our institutions that are so essential to this country are failing.
00:17:53.000And this racism stuff has just masked it over and tried to make it seem like it's systemic.
00:17:59.000There was a stupid superintendent just nearby from Washington, D.C., who said that they had to close the schools last year, but now they're welcoming them back, welcoming kids back.
00:18:07.000They closed them, he said, because of the dual pandemics of COVID-19 and systemic racism.
00:18:25.000Instead, they're just trying to raise them in their own ideology.
00:18:28.000They're taking the job of parents away from them.
00:18:30.000And fortunately, because of COVID-19 and all the stupid school closures, all the cameras are now in the classroom.
00:18:37.000And parents all over, non-political, apolitical, liberal, conservative, have woken up and seen, holy smokes, these teachers are taking my job away from me and they're indoctrinating my kids and they're standing up and it's great.
00:18:50.000Yeah, it's hopefully the beginning of a real political movement.
00:18:53.000We're seeing that in Scottsdale right now, where the Scottsdale Unified School District will not do in-person meetings.
00:19:18.000Similar to the little red guard in China.
00:19:22.000This all acts in a pattern, unfortunately.
00:19:25.000But we don't know how this will end because there's so many different variables and also kind of moving parts to this.
00:19:33.000So we do have this weakness for racism and white people in particular and white conservatives, they get really anxious whenever this conversation comes up.
00:19:58.000I grew up in Wheeling, two totally different, you know, areas.
00:20:01.000How much of this is driven by kind of white liberal guilt or even white conservative guilt of being around nothing but white people and being told that's the worst thing ever?
00:20:11.000The vast majority of the people who are driving this are white liberals.
00:20:16.000And they've got, it's part of this weird, strange new religion, this secular religion that they have, where in the Christian tradition, the only person, except for God and through his grace, that can get you through heaven is you and your works, at least in some of the Christian traditions and some of the things that you do.
00:20:31.000If you've committed a sin, you must confess.
00:20:59.000But over and over again, from Nancy Pelosi to Joe Biden to the Cuomos to whoever, they come up with punishments for the entirety of society to atone for the sins that they refuse to.
00:21:10.000We see it in their, we originally just thought it was blank hypocrisy when people would take their private jets to these global warming things.
00:21:19.000People would shut down coal mines, fly in like Bloomberg on a jet, tell all the poor people who are now unemployed and prone to alcoholism and drug addiction and child abuse that they just saved their kids from asthma and then fly home to New York and they're living their mansion.
00:21:32.000We thought that was just hypocrisy, but it's worse than that.
00:21:35.000It's something that makes them feel good.
00:21:49.000And I'll be honest, Chris, how many conservatives that are playing along with this has just disgusted me, to be perfectly honest.
00:21:56.000And so I want to talk about that, but to kind of, can you talk more about how it's not just hypocrisy?
00:22:01.000Because the, you know, Jen Psaki comes out on Friday and she says that we're not mandating the vaccine for White House staff.
00:22:08.000Meanwhile, I just got an email right here that says, my son-in-law is a West Point graduate and he has three and a half years to fulfill his obligation to the Army.
00:22:15.000He's against the vaccine, yet they're being told that if he doesn't get it by September 15th, he's going to be dishonorably discharged for refusal to take it.
00:22:22.000He'll have to go back and pay hundreds of thousands of dollars, liable dollars of education.
00:22:27.000I have no good advice to this one listener, but can you talk about how this contradiction, this hypocrisy is actually something a lot different?
00:22:39.000They always appropriate the different languages of actual religions when they're trying to preach their fake religion.
00:22:44.000So the things like love thy neighbor was a code for inform on your neighbor if you see them outside or talking to your children, telling the local priests.
00:22:54.000These are the things love thy neighbor is.
00:23:08.000This whole thing has really exposed that all of the Republicans who said that they were now down with the populist conservative agenda were actually just afraid of Donald Trump and they weren't actually down with anything.
00:23:19.000We spent the last five, six years talking about how if a factory shuts down in a small town that has no other options and that family is destitute.
00:23:31.000If someone hasn't had access to a grocery store for 30 miles and they've got three kids and have to work two jobs, that hurts them.
00:23:38.000We've taken a renewed interest, at least lip service to these people.
00:23:41.000Now we're turning around and saying, yeah, if your local factory, your local college, your local, this or the military or whatever wants to tell you, you must take this, you must inject this largely untested, at least not long-term tested, no matter what the government's saying right now.
00:23:57.000You're seeing inject it into your blood, despite the fact that you are a low-risk young person or someone who might have religious problems, or you're fired, or you can't shop at this store.
00:24:22.000But they've completely already forgotten these lessons.
00:24:25.000And then they go ahead and have the absolute gall to blame Ronald Reagan for this and say, well, Ronald Reagan would say that we shouldn't ever get in the way of having private companies force people and children to take injections that aren't fully tested into their bodies against parental rights because freedom.
00:24:46.000And we see that over again for the David Frenches and other pathetic people who've just come out and said, essentially, I don't believe in critical race theory or I don't believe in forcing someone to do this, but I will fight to the death for your right to teach that religious indoctrination.
00:25:01.000If I have to hear that Voltaire quote again, I'm going to vomit.
00:25:11.000It's kind of like this bumper sticker conservatism.
00:25:14.000Like, yeah, you know, I don't like your degenerate lifestyle, but I will fight to the death to make sure that other children can become degenerate.
00:25:20.000Like, really, that's force it on my children?
00:26:30.000Well, we knew that that was true for some of the people.
00:26:33.000For example, it was fairly clearly true that Mitch McConnell was going to do what he was going to do, whether it was President Romney or President Bush or President Trump in there, which is confirm federal judges that he liked and work and protect his campaign finance laws while screaming MAGA and pumping both fists in the air.
00:26:51.000And it totally worked on a huge amount of people.
00:26:52.000They just went along and said, okay, I guess you're not passing any of the things that we asked you to pass, any of the things that we were elected on passing, but you are saying MAGA.
00:27:00.000A lot of the other politicians at least did a more convincing job than he did of saying, of running on it, saying, I support president.
00:27:36.000But talk about how it was never an embrace of the Trump movement.
00:27:39.000It was like, I hope he doesn't try to primary me.
00:27:42.000Yeah, I think that was essentially it.
00:27:44.000And just like you said, you'd see them going to all these rallies that you were going around and visiting as well yourself and speaking at.
00:27:50.000You see them at these rallies, and it's because they're not leaders, our politicians are weak and pathetic followers.
00:27:55.000They just are going with whatever they think is in charge.
00:27:59.000The right was hoping that they were standing up for something that had reawakened, that there was this shifting of the parties from regional northern parties, essentially, to southern parties to ones that are based on ideas.
00:28:13.000That the left's complete insistence on forsaking all of the working class people and all the American citizens for foreigners and for the elites was going to sink it.
00:28:23.000The Republicans would actually be able to be a party that stood for something.
00:28:26.000You could be proud to call yourself a Republican, which it's very rare that I have been in our history.
00:28:31.000And it turned out that unsurprisingly, all of those guys weren't for it.
00:28:36.000Now, I thought that it was going to continue, that with forces like Ron DeSantis, who's one of the biggest forces in the GOP, former President Trump still around, with some of his close allies still really pushing for this stuff, like Senator Josh Hawley and others, still really raising a clamor on this, that they would actually stay in line a little bit longer.
00:28:56.000But it shows you that even though some of them are still somewhat staying in line a little bit, they're willing to punish Liz Cheney and others who are complete fools and everything that touch turns to garbage.
00:29:07.000When it comes down to that, do they actually understand what we're talking about?
00:29:11.000It exposes themselves with the COVID-19 passport, vaccine, passport, corporatism, and this new regime.
00:29:18.000And when they enforce this, you know, it's only a matter of time before that changes.
00:29:22.000My staff doesn't feel safe if you come into work or come into my restaurant unless you've taken this course on critical race theory.
00:29:28.000My staff doesn't feel safe unless you've disavowed your whiteness and disavowed their whiteness before you come in.
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00:30:56.000It says on the front cover, Tucker Carlson, one of the smartest things I've ever read.
00:31:00.000And so at Claremont, we went through this in great detail.
00:31:04.000And the argument he makes is that the Civil Rights Act ushered in a new regime that no one ever wants to talk about.
00:31:13.000That it was a regime of the destruction of private property.
00:31:17.000And so I was at a church yesterday and someone said, well, Charlie, how is it that I have a private business, this restaurant owner, right?
00:31:53.000But there could have been a much more prudently way to execute the intentions of trying to have non-discrimination laws versus a whole regime of the eradication of private businesses.
00:32:03.000And that's what Senator Barry Goldwater's opposition to the 64 Civil Rights Act was based on.
00:32:08.000Senator Barry Goldwater is someone who, in his private business, had desegregated his furniture store before anyone else in the state really had, who'd been helping out different charities, who was a big giver to the NAACP.
00:32:22.000He was someone who was at the forefront of trying to be a member of his community.
00:32:26.000And what he saw in the Civil Rights Act was true, which is that it's a very dangerous line, as sad as it is, and as good as your intentions might be, to tell people that they're not allowed to discriminate against people.
00:33:00.000And when they change the definition of discrimination going from there on to, well, you have to make cakes that make a mockery of sex and truth and religion, despite the fact that they're grossly offensive to you and are blaspheme against your God, then you have to do that because now the customer is in charge, not the seller.
00:33:22.000When they say that you have to give your COVID-19 19 vaccine passports, you have to check the health papers of customers before they come in.
00:33:31.000So that was that a lot of people meant well, and not very many people at the time were starting up to notice how dangerous this was.
00:33:39.000But it's gone off the rails and it's a very big problem now because they change it over and over again.
00:33:43.000And before long, your church, your deacon, your rabbi, your priest will not be able to give marriages because they're going to lose their right as a civil servant who can even sign off on marriage documents.
00:33:56.000Before that, they might lose their tax documents if they're willing to stand against the gay marriage regime.
00:34:01.000Well, and what's so important about what you just said is that the way we ushered it in, and Caldwell does the scholarship on this that no one's ever done, was that it was done hyper-aggressively, super quickly, and a one-size-fits-all.
00:34:15.000He goes through all the different titles of the Civil Rights Act and all the divisions of the DOJ that was created.
00:34:21.000And it even goes through some public polling that shows that most Americans did not want a fast implementation of this.
00:34:28.000They wanted to make sure that private businesses were not going to be steamrolled just because of some sort of an accusation or investigated.
00:34:38.000And look, Barry Goldwater was obviously attacked greatly as being a racist for it, which he, of course, wasn't.
00:34:44.000In fact, Goldwater was, he was an anti-segregation guy.
00:34:47.000If you actually study the history of Goldwater, what's important is Goldwater said, wait a second, once you usher in this new belief system that the federal government can come into private businesses, and he made a slippery slope argument.
00:34:59.000People said it was a logical fallacy, but we're learning slippery slopes are not logical fallacies, okay?
00:36:01.000Well, and so the elites were always able, in fact, they wanted the discrimination.
00:36:06.000What's interesting, though, Chris, is that the Civil Rights Act regime is actually going to come under great attack because blacks now want their own dorms.
00:36:15.000They want their own stuff, which is against the Civil Rights Act.
00:36:19.000And so if they want to go scrap it, then that's a different conversation.
00:36:22.000Now, what does give me hope, Chris, is this conversation used to be a thought crime five years ago.
00:36:27.000The fact that two conservatives in 2021 can talk about the Civil Rights Act with at least some sort of a critical lens, pretty remarkable.
00:36:34.000That used to be like a forbidden conversation.
00:36:37.000But I also think that part of it, I want to ask your question about this, is that we're able to have more of these enlightened conversations and bring people back towards views that I think are more real because we don't care about being called a racist anymore.
00:36:51.000Isn't that really the true release mechanism?
00:36:53.000Once you kind of release that, then you're really able to kind of speak your mind.
00:36:57.000I think that is what keeps people handcuffed in most of these situations.
00:37:02.000Once you're willing to call everything racist, whether it's being on time or even working hard and disciplined, like places like the Smithsonian have called racist, which is an incredibly racist statement or the ability to get an identification as apparently racist.
00:37:13.000Once you've called everything racist, then nothing is actually racist.
00:37:35.000You're able to actually have these conversations.
00:37:37.000I had an interesting conversation at the end of a Culture War podcast I did on this, on the subject of diversity is not our strength with David Azarad, who's associated with Hillsdale.
00:37:51.000And he said that we actually don't know if we're able to win yet because we've only just begun to fight.
00:37:57.000We've been on retreat for decades now, but that's because we've been afraid to fight back.
00:38:02.000There's no way that 10 years ago or 15 years ago, a governor like Asa Hutchinson would have been pilloried by the right and called on the most powerful show, Tucker Carlson, to be stripped down because his thing of just appealing to racism.
00:38:27.000And it gives me hope how many times recently we've seen Republicans who've tried to just go back to their corporate BS and they've been pilloried and they haven't gotten away and they've had their careers damaged and destroyed.
00:38:39.000Well, people like Megron DeSanis, who's largely at the forefront of this, as much as his legislature will let him be on all of these issues, who some under the Democrats know that they should target because they might win or lose in 2024 based on if he wins or lose in this next governor's race, that he's a hero and the other ones are not.
00:38:57.000And it's because he's speaking up loudly and saying all the things that the Republicans pretended to believe in, but don't actually believe in.
00:39:06.000Look, the real estate market is really hot right now.
00:39:09.000People are taking advantage of the low interest rates and the economic uncertainty by investing in real assets.
00:39:14.000Whether you're a first-time buyer or just looking to make a change, the key to getting the property you want is being pre-qualified and having the cash in hand.
00:39:21.000That's why you need to contact Andrew Delray and Todd Avakian at andrewandTodd.com.
00:41:18.000And that speaks to us, not just from a policy standpoint, like you and I are similar.
00:41:23.000It's like the policy stuff is fine, but also from a tonal standpoint and from a philosophical standpoint, he's unwavering in his commitment to his voters.
00:41:32.000He has a willingness to defend people that put him in political power and also kind of keep Florida nice.
00:41:56.000And, you know, I tell you, Florida does look nice.
00:41:58.000My folks spent half the year down in Naples.
00:42:00.000I just lost my neighbor and your friend Benny Johnson to Florida.
00:42:03.000And I, on dark weeks after our drive-by tunnel that's completely impassable because of tents run by the men's ball and the drug addicted, I get on the internet and I start looking at houses down in Florida.
00:42:17.000Sarasota is very conservative, voted for Trump.
00:42:20.000No anti-rioting laws, BLM is not welcome.
00:42:23.000But yeah, I mean, look, it just, and what's really interesting about the Florida model is that because it has so many senior citizens, it ends up being more conservative.
00:42:31.000And now there's this new influx of like 20, 30, and 40-year-olds that are all conservative.
00:42:35.000And so Florida's kind of like Alabama now.
00:42:38.000It's actually more conservative than Alabama in some ways.
00:42:41.000Definitely more conservative than Arkansas.
00:42:43.000But yeah, I have nothing negative to say about Ron DeSantis, despite everyone's best efforts.
00:42:47.000You know, I kind of sit, I sat down with, I won't say his name.
00:43:07.000There's no laughing matter, but that's true.
00:43:10.000He hasn't gone all out on certain things, but he's fighting this culture.
00:43:14.000And people don't remember, or sometimes people forget that he was about 50,000 votes from us having Governor Andrew Gillam, someone who was later caught in an extremely compromising and inappropriate position involving drugs and nudity.
00:43:29.000That was how close they were to Florida being an entirely different state.
00:43:32.000And the legislature there ought to wake up.
00:43:35.000And the Republicans out here ought to wake up to the fact that this has largely been pushed by one person and the voters who support him and the movement that's behind him and those ideas that he is really latched onto.
00:43:48.000For the last 20 or so, 30 years, the or 40, 50, 60 years, a lot of the Republicans have been arguing from the left sandbox, using their facts, using their ideas, using, oh, yeah, diversity is our strength.
00:44:35.000And that might be what we're doomed to as a movement's trying to conserve as opposed to destroy.
00:44:40.000It's difficult to conserve, but at least now we are on the offensive and trying to build something that's positive and that is trying to make this country a better place.
00:44:48.000So when people decide are they going to vote for whichever Republican nominee it is, are they going to vote for Republican congressman or senator in this next election?
00:44:55.000They're going to look at what Ron DeSantis is doing because he's one of the governors out there, one of the Republican leaders who actually building.
00:45:01.000That's what the GOP ought to be doing.
00:45:05.000And the last question I want to ask you, and this also gives me hope, is that it seems that right-wing intelligentsia is going more in this direction, too, right?
00:45:14.000Where like the Jonah Goldbergs, Jonah Goldberg used to be considered to be like the preeminent mind on the right.
00:45:20.000I will say his book, Liberal Fascism, is pretty good.
00:45:22.000And that was considered to be profound back then.
00:45:24.000Now it's just considered to be common sense.
00:45:26.000But that kind of world of intellectual neocons and neoliberals, I will say that from you to Seth Davis to the Federalists to Tucker to others, the energy and the thoughtful commentary is kind of all around this idea of American renewal and of a sovereign nation and strong families and social conservatism.
00:45:48.000Sean Davis, and not Seth Davis, I'm sorry, I'm doing too many things at once.
00:46:05.000I think a lot of the folks, I mean, Jonah Goldberg's book, Liberal Fascism, which was good, is only worth reading right now because it's obvious.
00:46:12.000And to see how far and how pathetic he's become as a person, he's living his character.
00:46:18.000That's the crazy thing: you are the liberal fascists.
00:46:22.000A lot of these people, whether you're George Willow and his bow ties and his martini, ordering his assistant to change his party affiliation from his townhouse in Georgetown, he wrote that publicly.
00:46:47.000Yes, servant, go change my affiliation.
00:46:51.000They've become complete and total characters of themselves.
00:46:54.000And because of that, they've become less impactful.
00:46:58.000Some of the people who are out there right now who are writing, who are starting to come up, who are getting some voice out there, are doing absolutely phenomenal work for it.
00:47:06.000And it's the conservative intellectuals right now, where it is, is more vibrant, in my opinion, as well, than it has been in a very long time.
00:47:15.000And at the same time, it's not worshipful of any one person, like, or just fearful of any one person, like it seems the GOP has been without getting the ideas.
00:47:25.000A lot of the writers and a lot of the reporters and a lot of the thinkers of these days and a lot of the organizations like GAF and TPUSA seem to be actually getting a much better idea of this is what we stand for.