The Charlie Kirk Show - November 05, 2021


Diving Deep on John Durham with Kash Patel


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Today on the Charlie Kirk Show, What is going on with Russia? We go deep into the Russia story with Kash Patel. I connect with how it s something that has created a lot of distrust in our country in more ways than one.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk show, what is going on with Durham?
00:00:03.000 We go deep into the Russia story with Kash Patel.
00:00:07.000 I frame the issue.
00:00:08.000 I connect with how it's something that has created a lot of distrust in our country in more ways than one.
00:00:15.000 So we dive into this story.
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00:02:27.000 A lot of people are searching to understand what happened this week in the elections in Virginia and New Jersey.
00:02:36.000 The defund police movement in Minneapolis, in Seattle, and there was a, let's say an unstated truth that so many voters had that they wouldn't even tell pollsters.
00:02:51.000 But it's that the media political class, the media political collusion partnership, has been working in lockstep to throw smokescreen over issues that matter and force a nearly diabolical campaign to have us us care about things that will only afford them more political power.
00:03:19.000 One of these stories, which has been one of the most frustrating stories in the last five years and quite honestly, one of the most fraudulent, one of the most fictitious, and one of the most damaging stories in modern America was the Trump-Russia collusion narrative.
00:03:39.000 The Trump-Russian collusion narrative was not taken seriously by most Republicans early on, nor should it have been.
00:03:46.000 I'll never forget, right near the Democrat National Convention, I remember where I was.
00:03:51.000 I believe the DNC was in Philadelphia in the summer of 2016 when the RNC was in Cleveland.
00:03:57.000 My goodness, my life looked a lot different back in the summer of 2016.
00:04:03.000 Things can change dramatically in five years.
00:04:05.000 Different in not necessarily a good way.
00:04:08.000 I remember where I was when all of a sudden there was this strange and bizarre out-of-left field drumbeat by the campaign manager for Hillary Clinton, who all of a sudden said, there's increasing reports that shows that Donald Trump is colluding with Russia.
00:04:31.000 You might remember whispers around Paul Manafort's connections to Russia.
00:04:35.000 This was all back in the summer of 2016, right near the RNC-DNC two conventions.
00:04:42.000 If I remember correctly, the RNC was first and then the DNC.
00:04:46.000 That's immaterial.
00:04:49.000 But out of nowhere, there was this narrative that was created.
00:04:53.000 And we as Republicans, we as conservatives didn't take it seriously.
00:04:56.000 We have an election win.
00:04:57.000 Why are you talking about Russia?
00:05:00.000 Didn't you guys make fun of Mitt Romney for being super hard on Russia in 2012?
00:05:04.000 We kind of scoffed it off.
00:05:05.000 I then became kind of the bodyman to Donald Trump Jr. in my own personal capacity for almost two months, crisscrossing the country from Michigan to Wisconsin to Nevada to Florida to Ohio.
00:05:18.000 And we shocked the world.
00:05:20.000 Shocked the world with one of the most incredible political upsets in American history.
00:05:27.000 When Donald Trump shocked the world in early November 2016, all of a sudden, Democrats were in total crisis.
00:05:37.000 And the only thing that they were able to hold on to was this fringe theory that started bubbling up in the summer of 2016 out of nowhere.
00:05:50.000 No intelligent assets were telling us that, but it was a concocted scheme.
00:05:56.000 Some would call it an insurance plan.
00:06:00.000 In the months that followed, you saw every single activist reporter actually start to do reporting, but not honest reporting.
00:06:09.000 They did drive-by shooting reporting of anyone in Trump's orbit.
00:06:13.000 And what ensued in December and January of 2016-17 was one of the most aggressive, baseless, unfair periods of American journalism in the history of the country.
00:06:26.000 It was yellow journalism, that simple.
00:06:31.000 And then January 11th, 2017, either January 10th or January 11th, the infamous BuzzFeed report of the Steele dossier was made public.
00:06:42.000 Now, you might remember Donald Trump said in December that the federal government is spying on his campaign, and he was ridiculed.
00:06:51.000 He was mocked from every single direction you could imagine.
00:06:54.000 You might then remember Chuck Schumer went on Rachel Maddow in early January 2017 and said, you better not cross the intelligence agencies.
00:07:06.000 They got seven ways up to Sunday to deal with you.
00:07:09.000 It's on Rachel Maddow's show.
00:07:11.000 It's a chilling 11-second clip.
00:07:14.000 And then, as soon as Donald Trump became president, the Washington Post, literally minutes after Trump had sworn in, they said, it's now time to impeach Donald Trump.
00:07:25.000 Adam Schiff to Nancy Pelosi, to James Comey, they all had their narrative.
00:07:33.000 And the narrative had then set in.
00:07:35.000 And quite honestly, Republicans and conservatives, we were taken by surprise by this.
00:07:39.000 We were not prepared for the inter-institutional collusion that was about to deploy itself against the conservative movement and Donald Trump.
00:07:50.000 In February and March, the months that followed, it was a nonstop whisper rumor campaign trying to derail the Trump administration from setting up the government, from implementing its agenda, from working with Congress.
00:08:05.000 And what we saw was a campaign that started with this whisper campaign back in 2016, the summer of 2016, then become policy.
00:08:16.000 You might remember then, Jeff Sessions made a major mistake and recused himself as Attorney General of the United States when it came to the Russian investigation because he said he had some meetings and he was in the campaign.
00:08:29.000 He never should have recused himself.
00:08:32.000 Then Rod Rosenstein effectively became acting attorney general for all things Russia.
00:08:37.000 All things Russia, he became acting attorney general.
00:08:41.000 Donald Trump then fired James Comey in an interview with someone from NBC.
00:08:53.000 I can't remember who.
00:08:54.000 He said he fired him because of the Russia investigation.
00:08:57.000 And then Paul Ryan and the spineless Republicans in the House and the Senate, they gave Democrats everything they finally dreamed of.
00:09:07.000 In April or May of 2017, a special counsel was launched, Robert Mueller.
00:09:14.000 And from there, we had a year and a half of indictments and investigations.
00:09:19.000 And there was kind of this check and balance on Donald Trump that was unelected and was appointed and had a roaming prosecutorial authority.
00:09:27.000 This was all a slow-motion coup, but it was an insurance plan.
00:09:32.000 This is important.
00:09:35.000 And we all know the obvious part of this.
00:09:39.000 Yeah, it was NBC Nightly News.
00:09:40.000 Lester Holt, that's right.
00:09:41.000 My memory is right.
00:09:43.000 When Holt asked him whether or not why he was angry with Comey, Trump said because of his Russia investigation.
00:09:49.000 I just want someone that's competent.
00:09:50.000 I'm a big fan of the FBI.
00:09:52.000 I love the FBI.
00:09:53.000 And that ended up triggering the House of Representatives and the Senate to approve the special counsel.
00:10:03.000 We're going to get into how the FBI and the DOJ spied on Donald Trump.
00:10:08.000 We're going to get into on how they used the security apparatus to go after a U.S. presidential candidate they didn't like and to create surveillance for that.
00:10:18.000 But what we are now learning, thanks to the new indictments of Durham, is it's much deeper than we could ever have possibly imagined.
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00:13:46.000 So let's start backwards.
00:13:48.000 Last 48 hours, John Durham, who was appointed by Bill Barr, issued some indictments.
00:13:56.000 One of the indictments that he issued was towards this new figure, and you would know about him if you were really into this, but a guy by the name of Igor Danchenko.
00:14:11.000 Now, Igor Danchenko is supposed to be a Russian specialist.
00:14:17.000 Igor Danchenko is someone that formerly worked at the Brookings Institution.
00:14:23.000 Danchenko is a Russian-born U.S.-based researcher.
00:14:27.000 He worked at the Brookings Institution from 2005 to 2010, and he is a former official in Bill Clinton's State Department.
00:14:38.000 And so Danchenko's role was not really clear up until the last 48 hours.
00:14:44.000 So the centerpiece of all of this, the centerpiece for the whisper campaign against Trump, the basis for to get Mueller and to spy on Trump was a document.
00:14:56.000 It was a piece of work known as the dossier.
00:15:03.000 The dossier was compiled by none other than former British spy Christopher Steele.
00:15:11.000 But Christopher Steele compiled the dossier, and what has always been a focus for those of us that have wanted to get the truth is who were his sources?
00:15:23.000 Well, the main source, the main Russian source, was Igor Danchenko.
00:15:31.000 Now, this dossier, this document, this summary, fraudulent one and fake one, was then fed to the FBI and the press and was later used in FISA surveillance warrants against Trump aide Carter Page.
00:15:48.000 And then through surveilling Trump's page's communications, the Clinton-Obama regime was able to spy on the Trump campaign.
00:15:58.000 Now, we knew that much, but what we didn't know is the next layer down, which is someone who is a Clinton loyalist by the name of Charles Dolan Jr., who was working with Danchenko.
00:16:14.000 Now, Dolan had all the type of Russian contacts that Trump was accused of having.
00:16:20.000 He was even on a first-name basis with Vladimir Putin.
00:16:24.000 He's all up and down friends with the Russian Federation.
00:16:29.000 So Dolan was working with Danchenko to actually concoct this dossier.
00:16:39.000 Durin's indictment effort even tells us that all of the nonsense around the P-TAP allegation, where Donald Trump allegedly hired prostitutes to go urinate on a bed where Barack Obama slept, totally false.
00:16:52.000 It was made up.
00:16:56.000 And so it gets even deeper from there.
00:16:58.000 That Danchenko, working with Dolan, attended a conference in Moscow with several Russian government officials in October of 2016, right as the campaign is unfolding.
00:17:14.000 Now, Clinton supposedly didn't know about Dolan's activities, but remember, the Clinton campaign funded this entire thing.
00:17:22.000 Through Fusion GPS, they funded this entire creation of the dossier.
00:17:28.000 And the dossier was then used for a public pressure campaign and internal documents to spy on Trump and try to delegitimize the Trump presidency.
00:17:38.000 Now, Igor Danchenko was just arrested on a process crime.
00:17:42.000 He was arrested on a process crime of lying to the FBI of where he got his sources for the dossier.
00:17:48.000 He told the FBI he did not get his sources from Dolan, which he did.
00:17:57.000 Now, anyone that looks at this can say, oh, I see what's going on here.
00:18:01.000 They're trying to arrest Igor Danchenko to try and get him to flip on senior level and create a much higher level charge.
00:18:12.000 They want to get his compliance.
00:18:16.000 They want to get his cooperation is the word I'm looking for.
00:18:22.000 And so Dolan would be the next step up.
00:18:24.000 Dolan is a more senior level than Igor Danchenko.
00:18:30.000 And it's becoming more and more clear that it was the Clinton campaign that was working with high-level Russian officials.
00:18:38.000 It was the Clinton campaign that was working with people at the top level of the Russian Federation.
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00:21:07.000 People are trying to explain what happened at the elections this last week.
00:21:11.000 Part of it was that the American people were so lied to and propagandized for the last couple of years while wages were stagnant, while borders remain open around this Russian hoax that very well could have been the major distraction and smokescreen deployed by America's ruling class that prevented us from actually meaningfully governing our country.
00:21:34.000 Someone that understands the Russian collusion story better than anybody else and his predictions have been coming true.
00:21:42.000 And I pushed back against them very politely when he was on the show is a friend of mine, Kash Patel, very smart guy, American patriot.
00:21:50.000 Cash, are you with us?
00:21:51.000 Yeah, Charlie, got you loud and clear.
00:21:53.000 And thanks so much for having me back on your show.
00:21:54.000 Really appreciate it.
00:21:56.000 The floor is yours.
00:21:56.000 What have we learned this week with John Durham and these indictments?
00:22:01.000 Well, as your show and your viewers have taken a great interest in John Durham, what he's been doing since we last talked was issue another indictment.
00:22:09.000 And let's just rewind history for a little bit for those who haven't watched the plot against the president spend 90 minutes of your life and learn about the biggest political scandal and how Devin Nunes and I exposed that scandal in United States history.
00:22:21.000 So first, you have Christopher Steele, or let's back up one more step.
00:22:25.000 You have Fusion GPS and the Democratic National Party and Hillary Clinton campaign pay millions of dollars to obtain fraudulent information through a MI6 asset, Christopher Steele, and pump that into the FBI and have the FBI intentionally lie to a FISA court.
00:22:41.000 So you have a Democratic political party.
00:22:44.000 You have a foreign operative.
00:22:46.000 You've got tens of millions of dollars and you have our FBI and DOJ being corrupted as if that wasn't bad enough.
00:22:51.000 That was proven not just by the Nunes memo on the Russiagate investigation we did, validated by the inspector general, but also John Durham indicted one of the interneys who lied to the Fisk Court for the surveillance warrant during the Trump campaign era and then indicted just a couple of weeks ago, Michael Sussman for lying to the FBI.
00:23:13.000 Who's Michael Sussman?
00:23:14.000 Oh, he's the head lawyer for the DNC and Hillary campaign, who was getting paid millions of dollars to shell this information about the Russiagate hoax to the FBI and lied about it.
00:23:24.000 And now we have this guy indicted, Danchenko.
00:23:27.000 His name's not that important, but his position is.
00:23:30.000 And if you recall, Christopher Steele did this terrible interview with George Stephanopoulos recently or two ago to try to resuscitate his credibility.
00:23:39.000 And people were asking, why would he do that now?
00:23:41.000 Because he knew this indictment was coming.
00:23:43.000 And why does it matter?
00:23:44.000 Because we already destroyed Christopher Steele's credibility and his lies.
00:23:48.000 But you asked, where does Christopher Steele get his information from?
00:23:52.000 Danchenko, this guy that was just indicted for lying to the FBI five times over, five counts in a federal indictment, was Christopher Steele's primary source for the information that we knew was fraudulent to begin with.
00:24:04.000 So now you've combined the political party, the money, the media, the garbage at the FBI and DOJ, and now you've shattered Christopher Steele's source by saying he's a liar peddling false information.
00:24:16.000 And I think there's just more coming as John Durham issued a 39-page indictment in this case.
00:24:21.000 So, but my question is first, why did Danchenko, what did he get out of lying to the FBI?
00:24:26.000 Who's he trying to cover for?
00:24:29.000 That's a question I haven't heard explained.
00:24:31.000 No, and that's a great question.
00:24:32.000 And I think, and this is me speculating because I'm not in anymore in government, but I think Danchenko is covering for his employer, Christopher Steele, and their employer, Fusion GPS and the Democratic Party.
00:24:44.000 That's what he's covering for.
00:24:46.000 Because he was getting paid money.
00:24:48.000 That makes sense.
00:24:49.000 And so let's, so, but if you were to, you are a former prosecutor, right?
00:24:53.000 Are you, if I'm not mistaken?
00:24:54.000 So if you were to try to say, hey, we want to go after the big dogs, would you would go after process crimes of people that are at the lower rung and then work upwards?
00:25:03.000 Is that a trend you're seeing here?
00:25:05.000 Durham starting to build some momentum.
00:25:07.000 Is that right?
00:25:07.000 Look, I was a federal prosecutor.
00:25:09.000 I was a terrorism prosecutor.
00:25:10.000 And if you want to go take out, you know, the likes of Osama bin Laden and a federal prosecution, you can't just go, I'm going to indict Osama bin Laden.
00:25:17.000 You got to go to his ground level troops, right?
00:25:19.000 You got to go to the guys on the ground that you know you have enough evidence to convict in federal court.
00:25:24.000 And you also know aren't loyal enough to the cause because they're facing federal prison that they'll flip up.
00:25:31.000 And these process crimes are how you start.
00:25:33.000 You start with the DNC, you start with the FBI lawyer, and you now start with the source.
00:25:39.000 And maybe you get to Christopher Steele, who's the ultimate crook here next to the DNC and the FBI in this case.
00:25:45.000 And this guy is now facing 25 years in federal prison.
00:25:49.000 And I think he's going to flip.
00:25:51.000 And that's how you build a pyramid case for a conspiracy going up.
00:25:54.000 Yeah, I mean, he's not going to get 25 years in prison, but I mean, he's probably going to cut a deal and plead and then work with prosecutors and get, you know, six months in community service.
00:26:03.000 But that's the question, isn't it, though?
00:26:05.000 Is that because Danchenko is willing to lie five times to the FBI that came to him?
00:26:10.000 So basically the way this worked is that your office at Devin Nunez, you guys uncovered this whole thing.
00:26:16.000 You realize the dossier was fraudulent in nature.
00:26:18.000 The FBI inspector general or whatever tries to backtrack.
00:26:21.000 And like, oh, no, no, no.
00:26:22.000 We talked to Danchenko.
00:26:23.000 He told us his sources were what?
00:26:26.000 Because what were his sources?
00:26:28.000 Because obviously it was Dolan, who was a Clinton apparatchek.
00:26:32.000 What was the narrative that Danchenko did say that some KGB agent in Moscow told him this stuff?
00:26:37.000 Well, what he peddled to Steele was he had this whole sub-source network that was giving him valuable information.
00:26:43.000 And that's actually in a great article that John Solomon just pushed out.
00:26:46.000 These subsource networks that Danchenko relied on, every single one of them issued an affidavit in federal court in the United States of America repudiating Danchenko and the information he was peddling.
00:26:57.000 So, not only do you have Christopher Steele's network destroyed, you have Danchenko, his primary source destroyed.
00:27:01.000 Now, you have in federal pleadings, the entire sub-source network destroyed.
00:27:04.000 So, what he, Danchenko, was lying about to the FBI was his relationship with this Clinton operative and also this make-believe Russian-American Chamber of Commerce representative that he said was trying to peddle the information.
00:27:18.000 So, he got caught lying in multiple interviews.
00:27:20.000 And just so you guys, and you know this, Charlie, but for your audience, it's not like the FBI interviewed him yesterday.
00:27:25.000 These interviews happened three, four years ago.
00:27:27.000 Um, and now he's been caught lying because John Durham's on the case, and we actually have a federal prosecutor willing to take it to task.
00:27:35.000 But this is important: if Danchenko would have told the truth to the FBI when they came to him three, four years ago, this Russia hoax would have been blown up in real time.
00:27:43.000 So, Danchenko lied for a reason.
00:27:46.000 We must understand this: that he wasn't lying just to cut, he was lying not just to cover his source, but also to cover the entire lie.
00:27:55.000 The big lie, right?
00:27:56.000 Which, I mean, he told the FBI, no, no, no, I have this whole subsource network.
00:28:02.000 But if he would have said, Yeah, we just basically made this stuff up for money, he actually Danchenko might not have been indicted because it would have just been the only thing he's been indicted for so far is lying to the FBI.
00:28:13.000 It is legal to lie in dossiers, um, but not legal to present them to the FISA court, which I think is the next step, isn't it?
00:28:20.000 Which is that then you're going to start to get to all of a sudden, okay?
00:28:23.000 Now, did FBI agents present knowingly false information?
00:28:27.000 Is that the next layer here?
00:28:30.000 We've shown that, and that's what we said from the beginning, right?
00:28:33.000 And it's only now starting to come out.
00:28:35.000 We, the FBI and DOJ, at the time we were running the investigation against them, they said, no, no, no, we didn't know this.
00:28:40.000 We didn't know Steele leaked to the media.
00:28:41.000 We didn't know he was getting paid by the DNC.
00:28:44.000 We didn't know he was corrupt and had a bias and hated president or candidate Trump.
00:28:48.000 We didn't know any of this stuff at the time.
00:28:49.000 We used the FBI's own documentation that is now public and declassified thanks to our investigation to show that the FBI knew when they were presenting the information to the FISA court to get a search warrant.
00:29:00.000 They knew Christopher Steele was not credible.
00:29:03.000 They knew he had a bias.
00:29:04.000 They knew the DNC was paying him.
00:29:06.000 And we presented, here's the kicker.
00:29:08.000 We presented all of those findings to the Fisk three, four years ago, the FISA court.
00:29:12.000 And those judges told us to go pound Sam.
00:29:15.000 So I think John Durham's looking into that as well, like you, like you alluded to.
00:29:20.000 Yeah.
00:29:20.000 And so I guess then the Peter Strzok, Lisa Page thing.
00:29:25.000 Yeah.
00:29:25.000 Peter Strzzk was on MSNBC this morning.
00:29:27.000 It was so disgusting to see.
00:29:28.000 But I can't imagine he must be a little bit nervous because I would, I'm just reading into this.
00:29:34.000 This is allegedly.
00:29:35.000 This is an accusation.
00:29:37.000 This is not proven in the criminal sense, but my gut tells me it's true. 1.00
00:29:42.000 That the insurance plan that he was telling to his, you know, adulterous, you know, Lisa Page as he was cheating on his wife, that he was that the insurance plan was Dan Chenko.
00:29:55.000 The insurance plan was the dossier.
00:29:57.000 The insurance plan was all of this.
00:29:59.000 Is that a step too far?
00:30:01.000 Is that what he really said on MSNBC?
00:30:03.000 Well, no, he didn't say it.
00:30:04.000 He said the, he said, let me tell you what, he said the insurance plan before.
00:30:08.000 This morning, he said on MSNBC, this indictment invalidates all the wonderful work we did as investigators, whatever, whatever.
00:30:16.000 I'm connecting two pieces together.
00:30:17.000 The insurance plan, he said in text messages five, six years ago, right?
00:30:22.000 Remember the summer he said it in text messages.
00:30:25.000 So I didn't mean to conflate the two, but on MSNBC this morning, he looked rather nervous where he said, oh, no, no, now people are going to try to invalidate the wonderful work we did at the Russia investigation because we're, you know, the greatest people ever.
00:30:36.000 Can we play that clip, Connor?
00:30:38.000 Are we able to play that?
00:30:39.000 128.
00:30:40.000 Listen to this if you can, Cash.
00:30:41.000 I think it'll tell you what we need to go.
00:30:43.000 128.
00:30:44.000 So, my worry is that as Americans hear this news and they don't really know how the Russian investigation ended, they hear these concerns and they say, Well, there must be a problem.
00:30:53.000 And that's being picked up and amplified by people who are seizing on this to say, see, the entire effort, everything Mueller did, everything the FBI was nonsense.
00:31:02.000 It was bogus.
00:31:02.000 It was based on lies.
00:31:04.000 And that just couldn't be further from the truth.
00:31:08.000 Sorry, I don't, I can't, I can only stomach so much of that guy, but the only person that lied during his duties in FBI next to Peter Strzok, Annie McCabe, James Comey, was Lisa Page, the lovebirds, who were cheating on their spouses with one another while leading one of the most politically explosive investigations.
00:31:28.000 And he has the audacity to go on TV after we showed his investigation was tarnished by bias.
00:31:35.000 Remember, this is the same guy that said, as you said, the insurance policy.
00:31:38.000 He said he texted his lover right shortly thereafter.
00:31:41.000 We're not going to let President Trump win, are we?
00:31:43.000 No, no, no.
00:31:44.000 One million to zero.
00:31:45.000 He's not going to win.
00:31:47.000 So if you want to take this guy at his word that he's saying this investigation and the Durham indictment is destroying the credibility of his work, Peter Strzok has as much credibility as Dan Chenko and Christopher Steele.
00:31:59.000 And the fact that MSNBC is still running it validates our work and our findings.
00:32:04.000 And that's why he's running scary.
00:32:05.000 I totally agree.
00:32:06.000 They're basically a communications arm for the intelligence apparatus at this point, is what MSNBC has become.
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00:34:19.000 Cash, Fiona Hill, who is she and what is her involvement in this entire new saga of administering justice?
00:34:29.000 I believe Fiona Hill is a prime example of how we got things wrong in the Trump administration.
00:34:33.000 She rose to the National Security Council during the Trump administration after coming off a tenure at a think tank that was just couldn't have been stood for more opposite of what President Trump wanted.
00:34:43.000 But here's why Fiona Hill comes into play. 1.00
00:34:45.000 Danchenko, the guy that Sussman just indicted, he was Fiona Hill's research assistant.
00:34:51.000 Wow.
00:34:52.000 Literally worked for her. 0.77
00:34:54.000 Then if that wasn't bad enough, Fiona Hill is the person who connected Danchenko to Christopher Steele and said, and Fusion GPS and said, you guys should meet your two credible investigators and intel people and media people.
00:35:09.000 We'll just have a chat.
00:35:10.000 Do you think someone with Fiona Hill's level of experience is just connecting two people to get a beer down the street?
00:35:16.000 No, I believe it's the start of the operation.
00:35:19.000 And then she embedded herself in the Trump campaign.
00:35:21.000 And a reminder to your audience, Fiona Hill is the one who paraded around the Ukrainian impeachment hoax, right?
00:35:27.000 Yes, that's right.
00:35:28.000 She and Binman together starred in that hoax charade.
00:35:32.000 I was jettisoned into that hoax.
00:35:34.000 I was running.
00:35:35.000 I was deputy assistant president and senior director for counterterrorism then.
00:35:38.000 Greatest job ever running counterterrorism for President Trump.
00:35:41.000 And somehow I was named the Ukraine whisperer in the media and holding secret court meetings with Trump on the Ukraine, which could not be more further from the truth, and which is the basis of so many of my defamation lawsuits against Politico, CNN, and all that stuff you can read on fightwithcash.com.
00:35:59.000 But this is why Fiona Hill is so central.
00:36:02.000 And if I were John Durham, I think he's already done this, put her in a grand jury, question her under oath, and see if she has any illegal connectivity to Christopher Steele and Danchenko herself.
00:36:12.000 What can we expect from this point forward?
00:36:14.000 So is Durham wrapping up his investigation?
00:36:17.000 There are still some skeptics out there, Cash.
00:36:20.000 There are still some cynics.
00:36:22.000 Say, look, there'll be a couple process crimes, but don't hold your breath.
00:36:25.000 You're not going to get a Comey.
00:36:27.000 You're not going to get a strzok. 1.00
00:36:28.000 You're not going to get a Paige.
00:36:29.000 You're not going to get a McCabe.
00:36:31.000 You're not going to get anyone from the senior level of the Clinton campaign.
00:36:34.000 What do you think?
00:36:35.000 Look, I've run these types of massive conspiracy, massive national security cases, and they take two, I spent two, three, four years on some cases.
00:36:43.000 John Williams in his second year, and he's working against literally everyone in government because Merrick Garland's Department of Justice doesn't want to prosecute this and Chris Ray and the FBI don't want to.
00:36:55.000 So I don't think you issue 40-page indictments for process crimes and tell the world what you're working on if you're just going to stop.
00:37:04.000 That's my opinion.
00:37:05.000 And remember to your audience, an indictment is the only way a prosecutor can tell the world what they're doing because they're not allowed to disclose their evidence.
00:37:13.000 So John Durham has taken the time to methodically issue indictments totaling over 100, 100 pages now for three people.
00:37:20.000 That's it.
00:37:20.000 And he's identified 15 individuals like the Clinton operative in the Danchenko matter, like Fiona Hill, like Michael Sussman and the like.
00:37:29.000 And I think that's why he's building the larger conspiracy.
00:37:31.000 Now, look, I'm not married to this pipe dream that we're going to get Comey.
00:37:36.000 I wish we could, but I unfortunately just don't think we have the juice to do it.
00:37:39.000 I do think we have a shot at Andy McCabe.
00:37:41.000 And that's probably why the likes of Peter Strzok are out in the media now parading around, just like Christopher Steele did, parading around his false credibility.
00:37:50.000 Now Peter Strzok's turn.
00:37:51.000 And that should tell you something that maybe something else is coming down the pike.
00:37:55.000 Well, and in addition to that, they're doing everything they possibly can to protect, you know, through hiring them at MSNBC, Georgetown, CNN with Andy McCabe.
00:38:06.000 It's like the entire media apparatus is trying to protect every single one of these people.
00:38:10.000 So you have a great answer on where Durham is going and where all of this is.
00:38:17.000 I suppose, I guess, the final question that most people have is Hillary Clinton, you know, all these people involved, probably out of touch.
00:38:28.000 But at the same time, will we be able to get in the court of public opinion and show what they did to our country?
00:38:35.000 Yeah, I think that's what the Durham report, and this is a great way to end it.
00:38:38.000 So people are always asking for the Durham Report.
00:38:41.000 I'm like, I don't want to see the Durham Report right now.
00:38:43.000 The Durham Report comes at the end.
00:38:45.000 The indictments come first.
00:38:46.000 I want to see more indictments.
00:38:47.000 And that's what John Durham's focusing on right now.
00:38:49.000 In the Durham Report, what you do like Mueller did, but just John Durham will actually do it using facts, is you issue an accountability to the American people and basically say, we didn't have enough evidence to get Hillary Clinton or James Comey, but you use facts to show these people were in the process.
00:39:08.000 And the Durham Report, I think, is going to is going to be the home run that you see all that in.
00:39:12.000 And it won't be an indictment of Hillary Clinton, but it will be an indictment of her in the court of public opinion.
00:39:17.000 That's well said.
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