00:00:00.000Hey everybody, today in the Charlie Kirk Show, Marjorie Taylor Green joins us to clarify her remarks on her calling for a national divorce.
00:00:08.000Do you agree with Marjorie Taylor Greene?
00:00:11.000And Jelaine Appling joins our program about the critical race happening in Wisconsin.
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00:02:15.000In fact, I just spoke to a group of teenagers and told them they're living in a moment of history because we have the opportunity today in Wisconsin to elect the people who will go on to the general election on April 4th to fill a vacancy that we have in our state Supreme Court.
00:02:33.000You know, what makes this so significant is that right now our seven-member Supreme Court leans conservative.
00:02:40.000We have a 4-3 conservative tip right now.
00:02:44.000However, one of the conservatives has chosen after two 10-year terms not to run again.
00:02:52.000And so what's happened is we have this open seat and the liberals are literally salivating over this open seat.
00:03:00.000Here in Wisconsin, you know, Charlie, we have a divided government right now.
00:03:04.000We have a very liberal Democrat in the governor's office and we have, yeah, that's a good word for it.
00:03:10.000We have Republicans in control of both houses of our state legislature.
00:03:13.000So the liberals can't advance their agenda that way.
00:03:16.000So they are looking to this open seat on the court to flip our Supreme Court to a liberal court on a 4-3 liberal vote rather than a 4-3 conservative vote.
00:03:28.000So right now, today, we have four candidates on the ballot.
00:03:33.000In fact, Charlie, I don't know if everybody's seen it or not, but typically in a Supreme Court race or in any kind of judicial race, the candidates stay away from saying, this is how I would vote on a certain issue if it came before me, right?
00:03:48.000So one of the candidates, the leader probably of the liberals, Jannifer Proto-Saywich, she has been all over saying, I'll restore abortion rights.
00:03:59.000In fact, there are four complaints registered against her right now for doing that.
00:04:04.000So there's, excuse me, there's these two liberals, and then there's two that are on the conservative side.
00:04:10.000Now, in my opinion, there is only one of those two candidates who is truly a proven conservative, and that's Dan Kelly.
00:04:18.000The other conservative candidate is Jennifer Doro.
00:04:22.000Now, we have her promise that she would be conservative and that she wouldn't be a judicial activist, but that's all we have, Charlie, just her work.
00:04:30.000But I also have Dan Kelly, who served on the court for four years on the high court, on the Supreme Court, and we have a proven track record that Dan Kelly never did anything other than vote the right way, write good opinions, show that he's an originalist.
00:04:46.000And so the message to Wisconsin today is go vote and vote for the person who is going to make sure that we retain the rule of law.
00:04:57.000So I want to thank you for the great work you're doing, Wisconsin Family Action, Jelaine.
00:05:03.000Let me build this out for a national audience because I'm sure some of you in Washington or Alaska are saying, okay, well, what's the relevancy here?
00:05:09.000You will not win the White House in 2024 if you do not win Wisconsin.
00:05:13.000Mark Elias and the shifty Democrats, they filed tons of lawsuits.
00:05:18.000Remember in Pennsylvania, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, they kicked the green people off the ballot.
00:05:24.000They destroyed the signature verification rules.
00:05:27.000They changed the ballot custody rules.
00:05:30.000Those are more on state Supreme Courts usually than federal courts.
00:05:35.000And so now we have an opportunity in Wisconsin to get a strong constitutionalist.
00:05:40.000And so the point of action for our whole audience right now, I guarantee you, almost everybody in our audience knows somebody in Wisconsin where you could pick up the phone or send a text and say, hey, just go vote.
00:05:49.000Because Jelaine, this is going to be a low turnout election, probably 8% to 12% turnout.
00:06:28.000Well, they've dealt with ballot harvesting.
00:06:30.000They've dealt to some degree with how we're going to handle the absentee ballot thing.
00:06:34.000You know, they haven't handled as many as we would have liked, Charlie.
00:06:37.000Some of those got in the early days after 2020 because we kind of have a, well, I'm going to call him a rogue conservative or kind of a faux conservative, Brian Hagedorn, whose name has become now a verb.
00:06:57.000You know, that was something that the liberals were pushing and pushing and doing these bizarre things during the 2020 election that were clearly outside the law.
00:07:05.000And the Supreme Court put the kibosh on that.
00:07:08.000So, you know, one thing I think is really significant that people forget about, but back in 2020, our Supreme Court actually let people go vote in the spring election because the governor had said the Friday before the vote on Tuesday, oh, no, no, we're closing the polls on Tuesday because of COVID.
00:07:57.000I don't even know if we're playing checkers yet.
00:07:59.000But they look at if they're able to change the composition of the Wisconsin Supreme Court, Mark Elias is going to come in with all these goofy lawsuits, and maybe one out of 10 will end up being successful.
00:08:10.000So, Jelaine, is there a lot of outside money being spent on this?
00:08:14.000Are Democrats currently outspending conservatives in Wisconsin?
00:08:43.000I think there's going to be money coming in for the conservative who wins today.
00:08:47.000And personally, I hope it's Dan Kelly.
00:08:49.000And I think there will be significant money to do a very good campaign against Janet Protosevich in for the April election.
00:08:57.000But we really do need people to wake up.
00:08:59.000We need people all across this country to understand how important what's happening here in Wisconsin is today.
00:09:05.000I will say that there's been a good amount of mainstream media that has come in and covered it to some degree, calling this the most important election of 2023.
00:09:22.000You know, Wisconsin Supreme Court, if you go through the new electoral map after the census changes, there is almost no path to a Republican winning the White House in 2024 without Wisconsin.
00:09:37.000And by the way, not to mention the Senate races and the important congressional races and Mark Elias and all of the Arabella advisors, George Soros, McKenzie, Bezos types on the radical left, the plutocrat, oligarch, billionaires, they look at this as a way to spend $5 million, $10 million to change the ballot laws, change signature verification.
00:10:00.000And then Jelaine, we're going to do everything we can in the April election because this is kind of a proxy battle, if you will, heading into that 2024.
00:10:10.000We need to wake up to these sort of more structural races because they impact whether or not we're going to win in November 24.
00:10:16.000Jelaine, thank you for your leadership.
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00:11:26.000So Marjorie Taylor Greene is going to be joining us next segment.
00:11:30.000I'm going to ask her about her tweet on the national divorce.
00:11:36.000And I have said for quite some time, I think we are heading towards a national divorce, but I have never said I think we need a national divorce.
00:11:46.000And I think that word is rather operative because I think that would be a tragedy in some sense.
00:12:50.000I won zero friends and zero favors for doing that.
00:12:54.000Very few people in conservative media or conservative activist circles were willing to stick their neck out.
00:13:00.000I did that because I have an obligation to you, the audience, to pick the tough fights that are actually going to help us save the country.
00:13:05.000We fell short, but I can rest easy at night saying, hey, I tried to get regime change at the RNC.
00:13:17.000So, all right, I do want to just mention a little bit more about the Project Veritas story because it was really fast-paced with Steve Bannon last hour.
00:13:30.000Okay, so the Veritas board, let me read this to you really quick.
00:13:35.000This is the Veritas' board that wrote this.
00:13:39.000Today, James O'Keeffe decided to remove his belongings.
00:13:41.000This was written yesterday from Project Veritas headquarters.
00:13:44.000The board and management made numerous attempts in the last 14 days to have a conversation with James, but he ignored our outreach and decided instead of leak private information to others, either by doing so himself or by proxy.
00:14:12.000All right, so let me go through this because even some, I've been disappointed by some text messages I've received by other conservative leaders.
00:14:19.000They say, wow, $150,000 is a lot in black cars over 18 months.
00:14:50.000This is their big accusation that even some conservative, that's $375 a day.
00:14:55.000Now, mind you, this is not him taking chauffeur cars for a Napa wine tour or him taking chauffeur cars to go visit celebrity homes in Beverly Hills with his friends.
00:15:06.000Remember, James O'Keeffe receives a lot of death threats.
00:15:08.000He has a lot of people trying to literally kill him.
00:15:10.000He has the biggest power sources that are trying to come after him.
00:15:14.000And so for $375 a day of travel, that's just of travel.
00:15:19.000That's not counting the actual calendar year because you could divide it and that moving average would actually go down way more significantly, far more significantly, if you actually took the entire span of that for the security needs and the efficiency.
00:15:49.000This is a business expense, meaning he's going to go raise money.
00:15:53.000Again, I told the anecdote last hour where I was in a living room in Palm Beach with a donor I adore, and James O'Keefe was finishing the meeting and I was coming in.
00:16:03.000Again, we were both building our organizations.
00:16:05.000And James, I was like, hey, James, what do you have next?
00:16:52.000And that's why you're removing James O'Keefe from his leadership position is preposterous.
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00:17:17.000Look, COVIDTaxRelief.org got a small retail business, almost $80,000.
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00:18:15.000We need to separate by red states and blue states and shrink the federal government.
00:18:18.000Everyone I talk to says this from the sick and disgusting woke culture issue shoved down our throats to the Democrats Traitorous America last policies.
00:18:25.000We are, and then it goes dot, dot, dot.
00:18:26.000Marjorie Taylor Greene sent out clarifying tweets afterwards.
00:18:29.000And I'm curious because I do agree with her in part of this, and we'll talk about it.
00:18:34.000Congresswoman Green, welcome to the program.
00:18:39.000Always explain what you meant by the need for a national divorce.
00:18:44.000Well, it's actually a terrible thing to talk about, but you see, it's sort of like we're in a marriage, the left and the right.
00:18:52.000Only one side of this marriage has no respect for the other.
00:18:56.000The left has no respect for the right anymore.
00:18:58.000The left, they have their different ideologies, their policies, their beliefs that exist in regards to culture, religion, identity, politics is a major part of their beliefs.
00:19:12.000They even believe differently than us on how the economy should run, the types of energy that we should all have to use, how hiring practices are done in corporations and businesses with environmental social governance.
00:19:39.000Most of my friends are not politicians or aren't even involved in politics.
00:19:43.000They're regular Americans, and they are so sick and tired and fed up with just the beliefs that the left have being shoved down our throats to the point where they want to make sure that every school child is taught gender lies, that children should be able to change their gender, cutting off body parts.
00:20:04.000They do not respect our traditional values, our faith.
00:20:08.000They believe that Christians should be forced to go along with their practices and what they want done.
00:20:16.000They don't care about people, you know, private businesses want to hire based on characteristics and someone's ability to do the job.
00:20:24.000Well, no, the Democrats and the left want businesses to have to hire based on skin color, ethnenticity, or even what gender they identify.
00:20:34.000And it's gotten to a point where we can't even agree on anything anymore.
00:20:43.000The federal government is over $34 trillion in debt and we're on the verge of defaulting on our debt and the right and left are to blame for that.
00:20:51.000Well, I think we're getting to a point where we really need to talk about solutions to this problem.
00:20:58.000That's the last thing we want in our country.
00:21:01.000As a matter of fact, we want to be able to respect each other and get along, but we also need to do, you know, to really look at major changes.
00:21:32.000Well, if we have a national divorce, there's no need for the Department of Education.
00:21:36.000Red states and blue states would be in control of the education in each state.
00:21:40.000Red states would very likely have traditional education, homeschooling, charter schools, private schools, technical schools.
00:21:50.000They would not allow any type of gender lies being taught in their schools.
00:21:54.000LGBTQ woke teachers would be fired and not allowed to teach there.
00:21:59.000They would allow parents to be able to choose the curriculum instead of school boards that don't respect parents' beliefs and traditional family values.
00:22:09.000And maybe in blue states, they would have full gender transition schools for their students.
00:22:15.000I don't know what they would do, but I'm sure their education would look different than ours.
00:22:19.000No, just to make sure I understand, are you arguing for separate nations?
00:22:25.000No, not separate nations, not at all, because I believe in the United States of America and don't want to see that go away.
00:22:32.000I believe that we still need a strong United States military, but the Department of Defense should return to its original charter and intent.
00:22:43.000You know, and it's supposed its mission is to defend our borders and our national security.
00:22:49.000And, you know, under what I'm talking about, that's what our Department of Defense would do.
00:22:54.000It wouldn't be more interested in fighting foreign wars and defending foreign countries' borders.
00:22:59.000It would defend the United States borders so that each state could exist how it chooses to exist.
00:23:06.000And I want to stand up for you here, Marjorie, because I think you're actually hitting something really true, which is I share almost nothing in common culturally and sometimes linguistically.
00:23:17.000Literally, we speak different languages than someone in San Francisco.
00:23:20.000They think it's okay to teach pornography to eight-year-olds.
00:23:23.000I think it's reprehensible, evil, and wrong.
00:23:24.000They think it's okay to have medical mutilation treatment.
00:23:27.000They think America is systemically racist.
00:23:29.000They don't believe in the Bill of Rights.
00:23:42.000Want literally their idea of rehabilitation for drugs is just to give out syringes and needles and to have clinics for people to do that.
00:23:50.000They're okay with mask mandates, COVID tyranny, and public nudity against all of those things.
00:23:55.000And so I think what you really committed the crime of noticing yesterday was like, hey, we're kind of already living in two separate countries.
00:24:04.000Now, I think what got people a little animated and upset is they intentionally wanted to read something that wasn't there and they started talking about secession and sedition.
00:24:14.000That's really sloppy and lazy because based on what you're telling me right now, as you go deeper and explain it, you're talking about a robust commitment to the restoration of federalism, are you not?
00:24:27.000Yes, that's actually what this would be.
00:24:29.000And it would solve many of the problems that we have today.
00:24:32.000We could allow states like California, if they want illegals to vote in their elections, and fine, you get to do that.
00:24:40.000If they choose to allow children to go through a gender transition, then that's, I think that's terrible.
00:24:48.000I completely disagree with it, but we wouldn't intercede in their laws.
00:24:53.000And then we would also allow red states to, say, for example, to support police officers, pay them better, not allow them to be viewed as racist thugs, allow gun owners to protect themselves and defend themselves and their property without being worried that they're going to go to jail for stopping a criminal from violating them or murdering them or someone in their family.
00:25:19.000This would help red states be crime free and blue states, well, they could abolish the police if they want to, because that's what Democrat lawmakers talk about.
00:25:29.000They talk about abolishing the police.
00:26:46.000Well, I think that, you know, red states could choose in how they allow people to vote in their states.
00:26:52.000For example, over the past couple of years, we've seen a mass exodus from California and New York, where we've seen people fleeing those leftist policies and moving to states like Florida, Georgia, Texas, states where they like the tax policies.
00:27:13.000They like the consequences of Republican and Red policies.
00:27:17.000What I think would be something that some red states could propose is, well, okay, if Democrat voters choose to flee these blue states where they cannot tolerate the living conditions, they don't want their children taught these horrible things and they really change their mind on the types of policies that they support.
00:27:36.000Well, once they move to a red state, guess what?
00:27:39.000Maybe you don't get to vote for five years.
00:27:41.000You can live there, you can work there, but you don't get to bring your values that you basically created in the blue states you came from by voting for Democrat leaders and Democrat policies.
00:27:54.000But this would be up to red states to be able to choose to do something like that so that their red states don't get changed, which is what's happening, unfortunately, when Democrat voters leave their Democrat states and they take their Democrat votes with them.
00:28:10.000That would be something that these red states would have to really consider and choose to do.
00:28:14.000But I'm a big believer in freedom, Charlie, but I'm also a big believer in defending our ability to pursue life and liberty and happiness.
00:28:25.000And the left is completely destroying that for those of us on the right.
00:28:28.000One of the things I will say is that Republicans should be very careful to invite major corporations to re-domicile their workers into some of their suburban corridors, especially in Tarrant County, Texas, which is suburban Dallas, in Chandler, Arizona.
00:28:51.000And I think that it brings in people that do not share your values.
00:28:55.000That kind of big tech re-domiciling program looks good on paper.
00:29:00.000It looks great for property values and tax revenues and all of that.
00:29:03.000However, when you do it too quickly, and I call them ribbon-cutting Republicans, they're really happy to keep on cutting those ribbons of HP or Salesforce or Dropbox or Apple or Google to have these satellite companies.
00:29:18.000But they are going to move tens of thousands of workers and they are largely left-wing and they change the fabric of those states.
00:29:26.000So, Congressman Green, I want to make sure I understood you correctly.
00:29:29.000Were you saying that we should have a cooling off period to say people should not be able to vote for a couple years if they move from a blue state to a red state?
00:29:40.000It would be something I would highly recommend with the mass exodus of states like California and New York, where people that have lived in these Democrat states all their lives and really just don't know any other way.
00:29:52.000But then when they move somewhere like Florida or Georgia or Texas or another red state and they just really, they always love it and they are just praising how wonderful it is.
00:30:02.000But yet at election time, they turn around and vote Democrat like they always have.
00:30:06.000Well, they really are like newcomers ruining our beautiful red states and trying to change the values that we have.
00:30:14.000And I think a smart thing for Republican states to do would be say, you know what, we love for you to move here.
00:30:29.000You can still vote in federal elections, but maybe we don't want you to vote in our state elections for a while.
00:30:35.000And that's something that they could do.
00:30:37.000And a national divorce, I don't know, give them maybe five years, three to five years to realize and learn why the red states are the way they are.
00:30:45.000And it's because of Republican votes, not Democrat votes.
00:30:50.000If you can hear the screaming, that is the ACLU already preemptively filing a lawsuit.
00:30:56.000So let me ask you, though, Marjorie, you do have experience with Republicans creating tax incentives and tax credits to basically re-domicile Hollywood to Georgia.
00:31:07.000I think this is a story that doesn't get enough attention.
00:31:10.000I want to, what you just said is very spicy and definitely interesting from a thought experiment standpoint.
00:31:15.000But I want to defend why you're saying it, because you've seen the fabric of Georgia change because of people like Will Farrell and the Hollywood cabal going to Georgia because it was so attractive financially.
00:31:28.000Tell us the story of how Republicans created a mini Hollywood in Georgia that led to really two blue Senate seats and Joe Biden getting electoral votes from Georgia.
00:31:39.000Well, that's exactly it, Charlie, is a little more than 10 years ago here in Georgia, Republican lawmakers thought it would be a great idea to offer tax credits to Hollywood filmmakers to come to Georgia to make movies.
00:31:53.000Well, this is a lot of us in Georgia that have lived here all our lives feel like that was a major mistake because we don't like Hollywood's values.
00:32:01.000We don't like their abortion on demand.
00:32:03.000We don't like the things that they want to teach our children and show our children on their movies.
00:32:10.000And we really want those things to stay in Hollywood and not be exported to Georgia.
00:32:15.000But that's exactly what happened when Georgia offered these tax credits to Hollywood.
00:32:57.000And then they offer these tax credits to woke industries and woke corporations.
00:33:03.000And five to 10 years down the road, the people that were born and raised there don't recognize their cities or counties and their states anymore because they move into your state and they bring their Democrat votes with them.
00:33:16.000And I think this is something that, say, if we ended up in a national divorce situation, well, red states could stop that from happening by changing their voting laws and say, we welcome you to live here, but we just don't want you to bring your votes with you for a little while.
00:33:30.000We want you to learn and understand why this is the way it is.
00:34:07.000Okay, another one is, how about let's keep our jobs in America instead of exporting them overseas?
00:34:12.000If we want to grow our economies and grow our job growth in our states and in our country, then we should be passing laws, states, state laws, and tax regulations and cutting red tape to be able for companies to grow their industries based on the populations and the people here, not based on slave labor or jobs or how cheap they can make it overseas.
00:34:36.000I think that'd be a big step in the right direction, too.
00:34:38.000Marjorie Taylor Greene went viral yesterday calling for a national divorce.