The Charlie Kirk Show - Does New York Have a Cuban Future?

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00:02:47.000 Joining us is one of my favorite guests, Mark Halperin.

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00:03:04.000 So, Mark, I want to pick your brain here for a second and take a step back and talk about mandate first pieces of legislation.

00:03:11.000 George W. Bush, he tried to get Medicare done.

00:03:15.000 Obama, most famously, of course, he put all of his chips on health care and Obamacare right out of the gate.

00:03:22.000 What can we learn historically about how popular these bills end up being and also how they end up taking a different final form than the original intent once they work through the Senate and the House?

00:03:35.000 Yeah, great question.

00:03:36.000 I'll just politely and respectfully annotate what you said about Obama.

00:03:40.000 Obama actually passed two pretty big pieces of legislation before the stimulus and the auto bailout, saving a Detroit.

00:03:48.000 And I think while he didn't get as much credit from those as he thought he deserved, those were pretty significant.

00:03:54.000 And certainly, maybe some would say net net weren't positive, but I think they had a lot of positives to them.

00:04:01.000 And I think it's arguably true that the stimulus kept the world from going into a deep recession or depression.

00:04:09.000 After that, it was kind of downhill after he passed those three things in terms of domestic achievements.

00:04:14.000 I think that, you know, as you know, first hundred days is an overrated thing.

00:04:17.000 It doesn't really mean much.

00:04:18.000 It's the first year and a couple of months.

00:04:21.000 And these bills, the ones you talked about and President Trump reconciliation, there's no greater thing in life to which you can apply the expression, don't make the perfect the enemy of the good.

00:04:33.000 These bills are not perfect.

00:04:35.000 There's no one in Congress and probably no one in the administration who would write these bills exactly as they're written in the case of the previous presidents, in the case of President Trump.

00:04:46.000 You can't fail.

00:04:47.000 And again, remember, Trump is hybrid.

00:04:50.000 He's part first term new president with the energy and momentum and 100-day agenda that that implies.

00:04:58.000 But he's also second term.

00:04:59.000 He's term limited.

00:05:01.000 He's going to have decreasing power after the midterms, even if Republicans keep majority in the Congress.

00:05:06.000 And so I think if you look at the fact that he's a lame duck and this is his second term, this is extraordinary to be able to have the oomph in a partisan way through reconciliation to get something this big passed.

00:05:22.000 And I do think it will pass.

00:05:24.000 There's no talk of bipartisanship, right?

00:05:27.000 And that's different in the beginning of a first term.

00:05:31.000 Obama, I think, made a mistake by doing things in a partisan way, but he talked about bipartisan projects.

00:05:37.000 There's no bipartisan project being talked about, at least not yet.

00:05:40.000 And I'll be curious to see when you talk about how does history view them.

00:05:44.000 It's mixed.

00:05:45.000 It depends on the overall impact they seem to have had, particularly on the economy.

00:05:49.000 But I think it'll be interesting to see what's the next project.

00:05:52.000 The speaker's already talking about another reconciliation bill, which would be another purely partisan project.

00:05:57.000 Is there anything in these polarized times, given the animosity that exists, that they can follow on after this?

00:06:04.000 Because this bill will have a positive effect on the economy, I believe, at least on the macro economy.

00:06:09.000 I think that's right.

00:06:10.000 But it's going to be a dominant part of our politics now between now and the midterms.

00:06:15.000 The Democrats have a much different point of view about this bill.

00:06:19.000 And I think the proof will be in the pudding.

00:06:20.000 If rural hospitals in red states are put out of business because of this bill, it's going to be hard for the president to explain that.

00:06:27.000 It is a difficult riddle to solve when you have a government that is so big as ours and you have debts and depth.

00:06:35.000 It's just, there is no easy approach.

00:06:38.000 Now, President Trump's original solution was: look, we should raise taxes on high-income earners.

00:06:44.000 But, Mark, just to remind our audience, that was so dead on arrival once it hit the House and the Senate.

00:06:48.000 I mean, President Trump proposed it.

00:06:51.000 Now, whether or not it was a political proposition, I actually think he's okay with it.

00:06:54.000 He talked about it a lot.

00:06:55.000 It's like, hey, just go to 40%.

00:06:57.000 But why is it that that was so DOA?

00:06:59.000 Why was that so dead on arrival?

00:07:01.000 Which, by the way, I said many times in my show, look, Charlie Kirk show does great.

00:07:05.000 We're at the top income bracket.

00:07:06.000 I don't want my taxes raised.

00:07:08.000 But if it means we go to 40% and I also get a ton of spending cuts, I'll suck it up.

00:07:11.000 My life is not going to be materially impacted.

00:07:16.000 And no, I'm not a socialist for saying that.

00:07:18.000 But why is it that was so dead on arrival once that hit the House?

00:07:22.000 Yeah, it's a great question.

00:07:23.000 And just to clarify something I said, I'm not predicting that this reconciliation bill will put rural hospitals out of business.

00:07:30.000 It could.

00:07:31.000 So I'm not predicting it.

00:07:32.000 I'm actually not rooting for it.

00:07:34.000 But my point is, some of the things the Democrats say about the bill are whack, but some might be true.

00:07:40.000 We just don't know.

00:07:42.000 So a highly covered but undercovered story is the way Donald Trump has changed the Republican Party, Free Trade Party to protectionist party, party of military engagement overseas to a party that's about America first and no endless wars.

00:07:58.000 A party that on some cultural issues was more conservative, has become more moderate or libertarian.

00:08:06.000 Taxes and taxes on the wealthy is one that he hasn't changed.

00:08:11.000 And in part, he hasn't changed it because he's got mixed feelings about it, right?

00:08:16.000 He's not all in on it.

00:08:17.000 If he were, he would have fought for it.

00:08:20.000 There's nothing magical about the current rates.

00:08:22.000 And this is where I'm sure some of your viewers and listeners will say Halpern's a communist.

00:08:26.000 There's nothing magical about the top rate.

00:08:29.000 There's no science to it.

00:08:30.000 The difference between 36 and 31 or 40 and 20.

00:08:34.000 So arbitrary.

00:08:35.000 It's just arbitrary.

00:08:37.000 And it's arbitrary in terms of fairness, and it's arbitrary in terms of impact it'll have on the economy.

00:08:43.000 We all want taxes to be as low as possible on everyone.

00:08:46.000 But unless you think no one should pay any taxes, rich people are going to have to have to pay more in taxes.

00:08:52.000 And that may be not a higher rate if you don't believe in that, but at the same rate, they're going to pay more because they make more.

00:08:58.000 I think that this was something that House members and senators just feel we are the low tax party.

00:09:07.000 We just, we cannot deviate.

00:09:09.000 You know, many of your audience will know Grover Norquist, the Republican who said, who's led a movement at his organization, Americans for Tax Reform, saying there can never be a net tax increase.

00:09:21.000 Not no tax increases, but no net tax increase.

00:09:24.000 Had they raised the top rate, it wouldn't have been a net tax increase.

00:09:28.000 But that's how strongly the party's identity is still wedded to the notion of we don't raise taxes on anyone.

00:09:35.000 We're in the business of cutting taxes.

00:09:36.000 And Donald Trump's administration is divided.

00:09:39.000 I think he's divided in his own head.

00:09:40.000 It would have been brilliant politics and the right thing to do economically, I believe.

00:09:45.000 But the party's just still, that's too much of the identity is still tied up there.

00:09:49.000 Yeah.

00:09:49.000 And that was my argument that, look, again, no one's going to be like, yay, celebrating it.

00:09:53.000 But look, guys, if you want to try to make a deal, here's the one thing, that when you're at the top income, you pay your taxes.

00:09:59.000 So you get a very, very high collection rate.

00:10:03.000 So you don't have to spend a ton of money collection.

00:10:05.000 Now, there'll be some scamming, but it's much higher than on the lower side.

00:10:09.000 So therefore, when you raise every percentage, you're actually getting a higher return of revenue as per than you would if you're raising it on lower, which we shouldn't raise on lower.

00:10:17.000 But if you would have said, hey, we're going to do more spending cuts, but hey, we're also going to just say we're going to go from 37 to 40.

00:10:24.000 It conceivably could have raised hundreds of billions of dollars in revenue.

00:10:28.000 It would have been a deathblow political talking point against the Democrats, right?

00:10:32.000 It just would have been a gut punch.

00:10:34.000 But the response I got, again, I'm not ideological on this.

00:10:38.000 I want a country.

00:10:38.000 I want a U.S. dollar that's strong, is Mark, they say, but H.W. Bush was crushed because he raised taxes.

00:10:45.000 Separate fact from fiction for us on this.

00:10:48.000 Yeah.

00:10:48.000 In terms of the Bush metaphor?

00:10:50.000 No, just that one.

00:10:51.000 And like, is it true?

00:10:52.000 Is it like every time that you raise taxes, does it necessarily mean that's built into the mythology of the storytelling around this?

00:11:00.000 Right.

00:11:00.000 Bill Clinton raised taxes and he thrived as president.

00:11:04.000 And raising taxes on the wealthiest is extremely popular, including amongst a lot of Republicans.

00:11:09.000 I will say this, and I would love to have dinner with you sometime and talk about this topic at length.

00:11:14.000 We have income inequality in this country.

00:11:16.000 We do.

00:11:18.000 And the rich, since COVID, have done extremely well.

00:11:21.000 Okay.

00:11:22.000 So I don't care if you're Rand Paul or Ted Cruz or Bernie Sanders or AOC or my next mayor, Mr. Andami, you need a plan for that.

00:11:32.000 It is immoral and it's bad politics and bad economics.

00:11:37.000 We need people in the lower spheres to have more money to spend because rich people don't spend as much.

00:11:44.000 And it's immoral.

00:11:45.000 And so I'm not saying the solution should be higher taxes or, you know, unlike my incoming mayor, I'm not against billionaires.

00:11:54.000 But no matter where you are in the ideological spectrum, you need a position on how we're going to have less income inequality.

00:12:00.000 By the way, it's just my advice is don't be ideological, guys.

00:12:03.000 There's stuff you can be ideological on.

00:12:05.000 I get it.

00:12:05.000 You know, I'm very ideological on pro-life stuff.

00:12:07.000 I get it.

00:12:09.000 But economics should be a means towards a national end.

00:12:12.000 And again, I'm in a unique spot because it's similar, okay, fine, I'll pay 3% more.

00:12:17.000 If I can get spending cuts and all of a sudden we can balance the budget, that's good.

00:12:21.000 By the way, that's good for high-income earners' purchasing power over the next 20 years.

00:12:25.000 It actually benefits you anyway.

00:12:26.000 I think that we're a little bit too fanatical, in my opinion, over time about, well, we can't raise taxes.

00:12:33.000 Okay, come on, guys.

00:12:34.000 We're in a new movement now.

00:12:35.000 America is getting more unequal over time.

00:12:38.000 And that is bad for our stability.

00:12:39.000 It's bad for our national unity.

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00:13:41.000 So, Mark, the Mom Dani story in New York is noteworthy.

00:13:44.000 I do want to get your take on it, but I think this is largely driven by economics.

00:13:49.000 And I think that if the Republican Party fails to understand that we're becoming more unequal, that things cost a lot more than they should.

00:13:55.000 And I think President Trump is addressing it, and I think he's doing a great job of it, but we're still early in the administration.

00:14:01.000 We are going to get more Mom Dani's if we do not address ownership economics.

00:14:06.000 His kind of genre of politics is made possible when people cannot afford basic necessities.

00:14:13.000 Your take, Mark Halperin.

00:14:14.000 As is often the case, we agree.

00:14:16.000 I did a monologue the other day on Next Stop up comparing Donald Trump's political skills, Mondanis to Donald Trump.

00:14:22.000 And for my trouble, I've been called a communist.

00:14:24.000 Just for the record, I'm more free market than Ted Cruz.

00:14:28.000 I'm a big believer in capitalism.

00:14:30.000 I believe his success is based in part on what you said.

00:14:34.000 I'd say that's number one.

00:14:35.000 Number two would be his skills using social media to drive that message.

00:14:40.000 Third is it's a very liberal city, and I think people like his liberal policies.

00:14:44.000 But I agree with you.

00:14:45.000 It's more identification with the frustration.

00:14:48.000 And in that way, he's exactly like Trump.

00:14:50.000 He's talking about the forgotten men and women, working class people who simply feel they're being left behind, that the system's rigged against them.

00:14:57.000 President Trump's prescriptions for that are different, but the analysis of the issue and the connection with working class voters, I think is pretty much the same.

00:15:09.000 I've said this before, I may have even said it to you.

00:15:11.000 The only thing more disgraceful than the mismanagement of our cities by extreme liberals is the Republican parties and the conservative movement's failure to offer credible alternatives.

00:15:23.000 This should be a mismatch.

00:15:24.000 Every American city should be electing a conservative to try something different because the record of failure for our kids on education, for our cities in terms of safety, for the economies of our cities and housing prices, et cetera, the record couldn't, it couldn't be more embarrassing, what the record of failure is.

00:15:41.000 And yet this city is now almost certainly going to turn to a guy who's not just promising more of the same, but more extreme liberal policies.

00:15:51.000 But he's in a position to do that for the reason you said, which is like Donald Trump, he's saying to people, you don't like the status quo.

00:15:59.000 You're right.

00:15:59.000 The status quo for you is horrible.

00:16:01.000 You can't afford bus fare.

00:16:03.000 You can't afford to send your kid to soccer league.

00:16:06.000 You can't rent a house or buy a house.

00:16:10.000 And I've got some ideas that seem appealing to address that.

00:16:13.000 And I believe that this city and others need alternatives to address the same issues.

00:16:21.000 So how are Democrats privately processing Mom Dani?

00:16:25.000 Publicly, I don't care.

00:16:26.000 Privately, what is your reporting showing?

00:16:29.000 Even people like leader Jeffries in the House, who have been terrified of the liberal base and largely danced to their tune, recognize that Donald Trump will make this guy the face of the Republic of the Democratic Party every day between now and the midterms.

00:16:45.000 And some people around Jeffries say he thinks it will cost them the House, that literally they can't win the House if this guy's the mayor of New York City.

00:16:53.000 But again, it's one city.

00:16:56.000 It's a big city.

00:16:56.000 It's Gotham City, city that never sleeps.

00:16:58.000 City Son I say named it twice, my home.

00:17:00.000 I care a lot about it.

00:17:01.000 But he's not going to be the mayor of the United States or the mayor of every city.

00:17:06.000 And they've got some nominees like Spanberger and Cheryl in gubernatorial races who are more moderate, who have national security experience, et cetera.

00:17:17.000 This guy is so talented.

00:17:19.000 He's so talented.

00:17:21.000 And he's not shying away from being a national figure.

00:17:24.000 When President Trump attacked him, he could say, well, I'm just running for mayor of New York City.

00:17:28.000 He's loving it.

00:17:29.000 He's right in it.

00:17:30.000 And that's going to make it easier for Donald Trump.

00:17:33.000 And I'll say again to people who are listeners to the show, most of whom don't prefer the politics of Bernie Sanders and AOC.

00:17:40.000 Tens of millions of Americans agree with this guy.

00:17:44.000 100%.

00:17:44.000 Of course.

00:17:46.000 And so he's not some outlier for all Americans.

00:17:50.000 Tens of millions of Americans agree with him.

00:17:52.000 And that's what has to be reckoned with.

00:17:54.000 By the way, Bernie won the primary in 2016.

00:17:56.000 It was stolen from him.

00:17:57.000 Legit.

00:17:57.000 We're going to talk about a stolen primary.

00:17:59.000 And maybe 2020, too.

00:18:00.000 No, if it wasn't for COVID.

00:18:02.000 And by the way, the Democrats have had a decade-long Mamdani base that has not been realized. 0.93

00:18:07.000 They have suppressed that base where we as Republicans, I mean, it's just a complete circus, right?

00:18:12.000 I mean, it's whatever.

00:18:13.000 And we win and it's all that.

00:18:14.000 There's no rules.

00:18:15.000 And by the way, we like it.

00:18:16.000 It's the Wild West.

00:18:17.000 The Democrats, they're Stalinists.

00:18:19.000 They've done their, the corporate Democrats, like, we got to keep this base under control.

00:18:23.000 45 seconds mark.

00:18:25.000 Is this a harbinger that the most radical elements of the Democrat base are going to consume all the way up to the Democrat nominee in 2028?

00:18:32.000 I think there's no indication that there's anyone who's filling the vacuum, that the party has so far left.

00:18:37.000 The national chairman isn't doing it.

00:18:38.000 Schumer isn't doing it.

00:18:39.000 I don't think these presidential candidates are.

00:18:41.000 You know, Gavin took a tentative step with you, and then that was that.

00:18:46.000 And I'll just say, Democrats haven't acknowledged what you and I can see so clearly, and Bernie acknowledges and shouts about.

00:18:53.000 They stole an election from the progressive base and they thought it had no impact.

00:18:57.000 And what it did was make the progressive base even angrier and more empowered.

00:19:02.000 And I don't see anything on the horizon that's going to stop that for 26 or for 28.

00:19:07.000 And that's a big problem for the party.

00:19:09.000 Mark Halperin, excellent as always.

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00:19:15.000 Mark, thanks so much.

00:19:16.000 Thank you.

00:19:17.000 Good to see you.

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00:20:22.000 Joining us now is a great American and a great friend, Benny Johnson, host of The Benny Show.

00:20:27.000 Benny, welcome to the program.

00:20:29.000 There's lots to discuss, but I was moved because one of my family members says, Charlie, do you remember that amazing documentary you did when you sent Benny down to Cuba?

00:20:39.000 You should remind people about it with the rise of Mr. Mom Donnie.

00:20:43.000 So Benny has done many, many projects with us.

00:20:47.000 I want to play this piece of tape here, and I believe this is from the Benny Cuba documentary.

00:20:54.000 But I'm going to play this, and then I'll allow you to kind of narrate it.

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00:21:00.000 People rushing into a grocery store because they only open them at certain times and have a set supply.

00:21:05.000 This is what government-run grocery stores get you.

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00:21:09.000 All of a sudden, the guards come to the gate and they open the gate.

00:21:13.000 And that's when I've never seen this before, but everyone swarmed.

00:21:16.000 People started running.

00:21:17.000 Even people that weren't in line, that were just like in the area, just start sprinting in there because this is their only chance to get their essentials and necessities to feed their families.

00:21:25.000 Thank you.

00:21:27.000 I'll see you.

00:21:29.000 Thank you.

00:21:31.000 Benny, what did you learn when we went to Cuba?

00:21:34.000 We have more pieces of tape to play.

00:21:36.000 But Benny, you went to Cuba.

00:21:38.000 What did you learn about government-run grocery stores?

00:21:40.000 Yeah, I mean, I understand why people would flee Cuba and risk being interned in Alligator Alcatraz because it is truly hell on earth.

00:21:52.000 It's like a bizarro world video game, Charlie.

00:21:56.000 It's like when you see a post-apocalyptic scene inside of a Hollywood movie where there was once a thriving society, there was once a functional people, a functional architecture of the city, but it's all been rotted and it's all been crumbled down to its lowest common criminal denominator.

00:22:19.000 It's very sad to go through Havana.

00:22:21.000 It's very sad to see these old, beautiful Spanish castles that have just decayed and are now truly just crumbling directly into the street.

00:22:31.000 And the people there in the nation of Cuba are also eternally depressed.

00:22:38.000 It was a sick experience.

00:22:40.000 It was an experience that's obviously telling for the capacity of this ideology to potentially migrate here into the States.

00:22:52.000 It's horrible.

00:22:53.000 We had the mayor of Miami, who is himself a son of Cuban dissidents that had to flee Castro's regime.

00:23:02.000 And he said, this is American Castro.

00:23:04.000 Zorhan Mandami is American Castro, and he will do to New York what he's done to Havana. 0.85

00:23:10.000 Inside of that grocery store, by the way, every single item, there was just government-owned stamps on everything.

00:23:16.000 So like a can of beans, a piece of frozen chicken.

00:23:20.000 There was mainly empty shelves, but everything just comes from the same process.

00:23:25.000 I want to play this.

00:23:26.000 It's unbelievable.

00:23:27.000 And the quality is terrible.

00:23:28.000 There you go.

00:23:28.000 It's weird.

00:23:30.000 Let's play Cut 370.

00:23:32.000 The effects of socialism are everywhere.

00:23:34.000 Crumbling infrastructure and disgusting living conditions.

00:23:38.000 That is what socialism has brought to Cuba.

00:23:41.000 Maybe the socialists in America should take a short trip, a short 90-mile trip, and come here and say they want this in America.

00:23:51.000 It was like going through ruins.

00:23:54.000 The horrific thing is that no one is living in the Pantheon right now.

00:23:58.000 Like no one lives in the Acropolis.

00:24:00.000 It's a ruin.

00:24:01.000 These are ruins that people are living in.

00:24:03.000 Socialism is popular in America now.

00:24:05.000 What do you think of socialism?

00:24:06.000 It's very popular.

00:24:07.000 Yeah.

00:24:08.000 Wow.

00:24:09.000 But now for us, noise good for Quantum now.

00:24:12.000 Not good.

00:24:12.000 No, my friend.

00:24:13.000 Noise possibly petroleum.

00:24:15.000 Yeah.

00:24:15.000 Nafi.

00:24:16.000 For this, the people, noise possibly go for the walking.

00:24:19.000 And one more here.

00:24:20.000 This is the grocery store one.

00:24:21.000 Before I play the grocery store one, remind people, Benny, this is what Mandani wants to do in New York.

00:24:26.000 I'm going to play it in a second, but walk us through.

00:24:28.000 So you went to Cuba.

00:24:29.000 How did you even get cameras in it?

00:24:31.000 Remind the audience about all of it.

00:24:32.000 Well, they confiscated our drones when we got into Cuba.

00:24:36.000 We had to sit there for six hours while they went through all of our bags.

00:24:41.000 And then they eventually raided the Airbnb that we were staying at.

00:24:43.000 Federal agents from the communist regime raided the Airbnb and tried to take our SD cards, tried to take the footage that we were filming there.

00:24:52.000 So we had to actually flee the country.

00:24:54.000 Thank God that President Trump was president.

00:24:56.000 If Joe Biden were president, I assume that we would be potentially incarcerated to this day.

00:25:01.000 I want to go back to Cuba.

00:25:03.000 I want to head back there and show because it's just gotten worse.

00:25:06.000 It hasn't gotten any better.

00:25:07.000 It's gotten far worse than when we were there.

00:25:10.000 The footage that you're showing is five years old.

00:25:13.000 And so I would actually like to head back and show people because it seems like this is now making, again, a resurgence.

00:25:19.000 They want to bring Havana to New York.

00:25:21.000 373.

00:25:23.000 So I really hope that you like Conchita Mango Marmelan because we have a whole pile of them. 0.98

00:25:33.000 Here in Cuba, you can get an individually wrapped hamburger.

00:25:36.000 And that's as fresh as the meat actually gets.

00:25:40.000 Oh, this one's all melty.

00:25:42.000 But my god, can you get a lot of the exact same grand brand of garbanzo beans.

00:25:53.000 And then after you're done buying all these incredible products, you can stand literally, which is as long as we've been standing.

00:26:03.000 I'm telling you, you probably are not going to like Cuba that much.

00:26:07.000 There was literally no fresh fruit, no fresh meat, no fresh vegetables, nothing. 0.98

00:26:13.000 There was one brand of the things they did have, and the things they didn't have, well, screw you.

00:26:20.000 I'm actually glad that I've gone on, I'm glad I've gone on the communist Cuba diet. 0.95

00:26:25.000 I've probably lost like 35 pounds since we filmed that.

00:26:28.000 And so, you know, being there inspired me, Charlie.

00:26:31.000 So I've just, I've been eating Garbanzo beans for the last five years straight from Havana.

00:26:35.000 It's actually done wonders.

00:26:37.000 The best weight loss program that we have, it's not Ozembic. 1.00

00:26:40.000 It's not keto.

00:26:41.000 It's not cold plunging.

00:26:42.000 We will send you to Cuba. 1.00

00:26:44.000 You will lose 30 pounds in a month.

00:26:46.000 AOC could use that, actually, right now.

00:26:48.000 AOC could pay that.

00:26:49.000 Shots fired.

00:26:50.000 I'm not saying anything.

00:26:51.000 More effective than Ozembic. 0.99

00:26:53.000 You see, capitalism, you tend to gain weight.

00:26:55.000 We got nothing but food here.

00:26:57.000 You then went to AOC's now origins.

00:27:00.000 I think we have a piece of tape here, but you went to AOC's hometown.

00:27:06.000 She's not a girl from the Bronx.

00:27:07.000 Is that what we're finding out?

00:27:08.000 Oh, no. 0.99

00:27:09.000 She's a total fraud. 1.00

00:27:11.000 Ever since she was an infant, before she could walk or talk, AOC has been raised in a leafy, clean, and beautiful suburb that is pristine and low on crime. 0.90

00:27:21.000 That is one of those places that gets painted in American history by people like Norman Rockwell.

00:27:28.000 It's a place called Yorktown Heights, the hamlet of Yorktown Heights.

00:27:32.000 It's 120 minutes from downtown Manhattan.

00:27:35.000 It's a far ways away from the hard scrabble working class Bronx girl persona that AOC tries to project onto the world. 0.95

00:27:45.000 We went and traveled there and exposed AOC for the fraud that she is. 1.00

00:27:48.000 You know, a lot of people in MAGA hats.

00:27:50.000 And there's actually a Trump sign right across from AOC's home that she was raised in, Charlie.

00:27:55.000 And it's not that she was just lived there for a little bit.

00:27:58.000 She went to preschool there.

00:27:59.000 Then she went to elementary school, middle school, high school there.

00:28:02.000 And then she graduated and went to Boston University. 0.55

00:28:05.000 So she's a total and complete fraud. 1.00

00:28:07.000 The working class Bronx girl is a liar. 1.00

00:28:11.000 Let's play Cut 363. 0.99

00:28:14.000 Yo, what's up, guys?

00:28:15.000 Welcome to The Bronx.

00:28:16.000 This is where AOC says she's from.

00:28:24.000 And this is where AOC is actually from.

00:28:28.000 Welcome to Yorktown, the business hamlet of Yorktown Heights.

00:28:34.000 There's mansions everywhere.

00:28:35.000 It's beautiful.

00:28:36.000 It's green.

00:28:37.000 It's pristine.

00:28:37.000 It's clean.

00:28:38.000 And they even have a Christopher Columbus Society.

00:28:41.000 I thought AOC got all those statues ripped down.

00:28:44.000 Some structural racism right here in AOC's hometown.

00:28:48.000 Today we're going to investigate the biggest lie in all of politics, the fraud of AOC.

00:28:54.000 And so, Benny, what did you learn in that investigation?

00:28:58.000 Well, me and the 40 million people who have actually seen that video learned that AOC has been lying and this is working class stolen valor. 0.99

00:29:08.000 It's exactly what Kamala Harris tried to do when she said that she worked at McDonald's. 1.00

00:29:14.000 This is something that is going to be used against her if she tries to run in 2028. 1.00

00:29:18.000 And Charlie, she is number two, according to some polls, in the Democrat positioning for 2028.

00:29:25.000 So this is a major threat to AOC.

00:29:29.000 I don't understand why Democrats can't just accept that America is a beautiful and wonderful country and to be from a place like Yorktown Heights is a major privilege and you should be thankful for it and not vengefully hate your country.

00:29:41.000 But here's what we learned from some of the people that went to school with AOC Charlie.

00:29:44.000 We learned that she was a big bully and that she was unhappy and that she was one of the people in high school that you just didn't want to be around.

00:29:50.000 And so maybe she just took all that angst and that lack of fulfillment and that self-deprecation into politics, that self-loathing that you kind of see on the left so often.

00:30:03.000 And she just channeled it into communism like they always do. 1.00

00:30:06.000 And so Benny, kind of taking a step back here and covering socialism for quite some time, what is the driving force of Momdani and how do we defeat him?

00:30:14.000 Yeah, well, Trump told me yesterday he's just going to put him in jail.

00:30:18.000 There's that.

00:30:20.000 But that's because Momdani is proposing multiple policies that are patently illegal.

00:30:25.000 Momdani wants to tax people based on their skin color.

00:30:28.000 He says so.

00:30:29.000 And he doubled down on that, Charlie, in fact, this weekend, saying that white people in New York need to pay more taxes.

00:30:35.000 That's something that obviously drew a rebuke from the Trump Justice Department.

00:30:40.000 But President Trump told me yesterday when I asked him about Momdani that he's going to be facing serious federal threats for stopping ICE enforcement in the city of New York.

00:30:51.000 This is what he promised to do when he won in his nomination speech last week.

00:30:56.000 So how do you stop him?

00:30:58.000 I'm not sure.

00:30:59.000 And it begs the question, Charlie, that I don't know the answer to, which is, do we let our great American cities fail?

00:31:06.000 Do we give them what they want?

00:31:07.000 Democracy, of course, is the people know what they want and they deserve to get it good and hard.

00:31:13.000 So do we give New Yorkers the communism that they wish to live under?

00:31:18.000 Is that the only way to learn?

00:31:20.000 I don't know the answer to that question.

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00:32:25.000 Benny Johnson continues with us.

00:32:27.000 Benny will be at our Student Action Summit, SAS2025.com in Tampa.

00:32:31.000 He lives in Tampa.

00:32:32.000 Benny, remind our audience how great these turning point USA events are.

00:32:35.000 Yeah, it just makes you believe in your country and you can see the core of the energy where the nation is heading.

00:32:41.000 And this moment that we're in right now wouldn't surprise you if you were going to these conferences four years ago and you could see that this was a movement that was durable, that was going to last, and you can't kill an idea.

00:32:56.000 And this is an idea that this country isn't over yet and that we have God's providence here.

00:33:01.000 And it's really wonderful to see it on display and in full motion.

00:33:04.000 Man, we saw it yesterday at Alligator Alcatraz.

00:33:07.000 It was wild.

00:33:08.000 I do want to play that.

00:33:09.000 You asked the question of President Trump at 348.

00:33:11.000 Play cut 348.

00:33:12.000 Mr. President, in 2018, you suggested putting alligators in the Rio Grande to prevent crossings in Texas.

00:33:19.000 Is this a dream come true for you, sir?

00:33:22.000 Well, I was thinking about that, I must say.

00:33:23.000 It was meant more as a joke, but the more I thought of it, the more I liked it, if you want to know the truth.

00:33:29.000 And they were serious, they were actually crocodiles.

00:33:32.000 They were crocodiles from Africa.

00:33:34.000 They are a step beyond.

00:33:36.000 But no, that was really meant as a joke, but a lot of people liked it.

00:33:39.000 And a lot of people think we should do it, frankly.

00:33:43.000 I mean, what people miss there, Charlie, what people miss there, Charlie, is that Donald Trump's open to putting African crocodiles in the Rio Grande.

00:33:51.000 So while Joe Biden was putting African criminal aliens into small towns in Ohio, changing forever the culture of those towns and making them unrecognizable, Donald Trump is putting African crocodiles in the Rio Grande.

00:34:04.000 He's open to it. 0.64

00:34:05.000 And you can see Secretary Noam was kind of like, oh, you know what?

00:34:08.000 I haven't thought about that in a while.

00:34:10.000 So I'm just saying, we're asking the questions that people want, Charlie.

00:34:13.000 We're asking the questions that people deserve to hear.

00:34:16.000 So tell us, being there up close and personal, it was kind of like a mini Trump rally at Alligator Alcatraz.

00:34:22.000 Christine Noam was there.

00:34:24.000 We need more of this.

00:34:25.000 What else did you learn?

00:34:26.000 And what did you see at Alligator Alcatraz you want our audience to know about?

00:34:29.000 That it's the cleanest and most secure and most sanitary conditions I've seen in any prison.

00:34:35.000 That is a higher standard than our federal prison system actually has for inmates and that it's right there on an airport.

00:34:42.000 As soon as you arrive, as soon as a detainee arrives at Alligator Alcatraz, which is the most dangerous prison in America, not because of the conditions inside, but because of the conditions outside, because it is surrounded by a million alligators and is surrounded by hundreds of millions of mosquitoes about the size of hummingbirds and also pythons and other venomous snakes.

00:35:02.000 You just can't escape from it, but there is an airstrip there, Charlie, and you can take a plane home.

00:35:07.000 And that's the first thing that's offered the criminal aliens that are brought into Alligator Alcatraz.

00:35:11.000 And this is going to shock you, Charlie.

00:35:13.000 The government can do things.

00:35:15.000 It can if it wants to.

00:35:17.000 The people who built Alligator Alcatraz here in the state of Florida, they were able to build it in 72 hours.

00:35:26.000 This is the, it was nothing.

00:35:28.000 It was a slab of concrete and they have a fully functional federal prison in 72 hours.

00:35:34.000 So it can happen with the right leadership.

00:35:37.000 Government can actually work for the people.

00:35:40.000 And the only way out and the best way out of Alligator Alcatraz is certainly not to try and escape, but to get on a plane and to go home.

00:35:46.000 Benny Johnson, tell our audience about where they can find you, where they could support you.

00:35:51.000 And what is the best part of the golden age that you are experiencing right now that you want that you think is not getting enough media attention?

00:35:58.000 Well, I think this is the, given the past 24 hours, what I'd like to say on that is that we are the media now.

00:36:04.000 And that shows like Charlie's and shows like mine, you can find me at Benny Johnson on all social media and the Benny show, that we are able to ask the questions that people actually care about.

00:36:16.000 We were able to ask President Trump four questions.

00:36:18.000 All four of them trended globally and worldwide and got major attention.

00:36:23.000 And we were able to run circles around what is the corporate media.

00:36:27.000 And that's because we answer to you, the American people.

00:36:29.000 And it's our great honor to do that.

00:36:31.000 It's a huge compliment to the team at the White House that allows for independent voices to have access to the president.

00:36:39.000 And that's how you actually get the truth.

00:36:41.000 Benny, thank you so much.

00:36:42.000 We'll see you soon.

00:36:42.000 We'll see you at the Student Action Summit a week from Friday.

00:36:45.000 Thanks so much.

00:36:46.000 Thanks, Charlotte.

00:36:47.000 SAS2025.com.

00:36:49.000 That is the Student Action Summit in Tampa, Florida.

00:36:51.000 Let me just remind you, Greg Gutfeld, Tucker Carlson, Chris Denome, Donald Trump Jr., the biggest speakers in the movement, an all-star lineup.

00:37:00.000 It is time for unity.

00:37:01.000 It is time for conviction.

00:37:03.000 It is time for energy.

00:37:04.000 It is time for purpose.

00:37:06.000 It is time for action, action, action.

00:37:08.000 Steve Benn will be doing his show live.

00:37:10.000 I'll be doing my show live.

00:37:11.000 Betty Johnson will be doing his show live.

00:37:13.000 I mean, you cannot put together a movement or a combination of speakers, even remotely close to this.

00:37:20.000 It's SAS2025.com.

00:37:22.000 That is SAS2025.com.

00:37:24.000 Laura Ingram will be there.

00:37:26.000 We're going to have debates.

00:37:27.000 We're going to have breakout sessions.

00:37:29.000 We're going to have vendors.

00:37:30.000 We're going to have exhibitors.

00:37:31.000 You want to find your future husband, find your future wife. 0.99

00:37:34.000 It's an amazing place to do that.

00:37:35.000 SAS2025.com, Week from Friday, biggest event in the movement this summer, SAS2025.com.

00:37:43.000 Get your tickets, Tampa, Florida.

00:37:45.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:37:46.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:37:49.000 Thank you so much for listening, and God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - July 03, 2025

Does New York Have a Cuban Future?

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