The Charlie Kirk Show - September 26, 2023


Does RFK Jr. Hurt Biden...Or Trump?


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In honor of RFK Jr, we dedicate an entire episode of the Charlie Kirk Show to him. We break down the relationship between third party candidates and low trust in government and why it s a good idea for a third party candidate to run for president in 2024.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today in the Charlie Kirk show, RFK Jr., an entire episode dedicated to him.
00:00:05.000 Is it a good idea if he runs as a third-party libertarian?
00:00:09.000 We break that apart by asking the question of all third-party candidates, low trust, high trust, in a very important episode.
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00:01:46.000 Okay, so we've done a fair amount of analysis of the 2024 race.
00:01:51.000 It's hard not to.
00:01:52.000 There's a Republican debate tomorrow.
00:01:55.000 We have our event tomorrow, our Turning Point USA event with Dennis Prager, so I'll watch the highlights.
00:02:00.000 Donald Trump will not be attending that debate.
00:02:03.000 We have also talked about how Joe Biden is very unpopular.
00:02:06.000 Republicans are stepping up, largely led thanks by Turning Point Action to ballot chase and register voters and get into the communities that matter for low propensity type voter turnout, building the plumbing and the machinery of elections.
00:02:19.000 God bless Turning Point Action for taking a leadership role in this regard.
00:02:24.000 We've also mentioned, though, how third-party candidates can make the 2024 race unpredictable, chaotic, and interesting.
00:02:32.000 A couple weeks ago, there was an article, Politico.com.
00:02:36.000 Biden camp scrambles to stop Cornell West and no labels from getting on the ballot.
00:02:42.000 Now, of course, the party of democracy, oligarchy, is trying to prevent choice in elections.
00:02:49.000 They don't want a primary.
00:02:51.000 They don't want competitors. 0.98
00:02:52.000 They want one size fits all top-down authoritarian political choices.
00:02:58.000 I think it's helpful to divide people running for office into two buckets.
00:03:04.000 Now, this is overly simplified, but it's helpful.
00:03:08.000 So traditionally, in the 60s, 70s, and 80s, and 2000s, all up until Barack Obama, it all changed once Obama became president.
00:03:19.000 Democrats and the Democrat base were motivated by low trust in government.
00:03:26.000 In the 60s, 70s, and 80s, Democrats would say the intel agencies were spying on their Democrat activist groups like the Black Panthers and the Students for a Democrat Society.
00:03:37.000 There was some truth to that, but they would say that they don't trust the government when it comes to the police.
00:03:42.000 They were largely motivated by low trust in the government, a low trust type society.
00:03:48.000 Republicans in the 70s, 80s, and 90s were high trust.
00:03:53.000 That was the party of Reagan and H.W. Bush and George W. Bush.
00:03:57.000 That the government is there to administer the business of the people.
00:04:01.000 Of course, we'll start the Department of Homeland Security.
00:04:03.000 We trust you to do the Patriot Act.
00:04:05.000 Remember, it was largely Democrats that fought against the Patriot Act becoming law under George W. Bush.
00:04:12.000 The Democrat Party was skeptical of the Iraq war.
00:04:16.000 Republicans were enthusiastic.
00:04:18.000 Not every Democrat.
00:04:19.000 Hillary Clinton was in favor of the war of Iraq.
00:04:22.000 Barack Obama ran a campaign in 2007 and 2008 on low trust of government, saying that he was going to close down Gitmo, saying that he was going to stop the spying of American citizens, saying that he was going to restore citizen government.
00:04:42.000 Now, all of that changed, obviously, where Barack Obama and the Democrat Party embraced the power that they found themselves in.
00:04:51.000 Things inverted slowly, and it really changed when Donald Trump ran for office.
00:04:56.000 When Donald Trump upset the apple cart of the Unit Party in D.C., Donald Trump and the movement of citizens that we call MAGA started to say, wait a second, we don't trust the government when it comes to immigration.
00:05:09.000 We don't trust the government that spies on Donald Trump and infiltrates his campaign.
00:05:14.000 We don't trust the government that launched two separate impeachments against Donald Trump.
00:05:21.000 And that was there, but then the lockdowns and our reaction to COVID really changed everything.
00:05:28.000 The Democrat Party went all in on worshiping of the state and power centers of Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Moderna, and Johnson Johnson.
00:05:38.000 And intentionally or unintentionally, the Republican Party became skeptical of all major government authority.
00:05:46.000 Now, there are always some elements of this in the Republican Party.
00:05:49.000 They'd usually find themselves in more libertarian circles.
00:05:54.000 But now, if you go to the rank and file of the Republican base of Trump voters, there is unanimous support against deconstructing the deep state.
00:06:05.000 They don't trust anything the power centers of the country are telling them.
00:06:09.000 Anything.
00:06:10.000 And in some ways, that's exactly what grassroots Democrats were saying in the 70s and 80s.
00:06:17.000 So you could break people running for the president into one of two buckets.
00:06:21.000 Is their message largely centered on building trust or maintaining trust in the federal government or challenging trust and trying to criticize the federal government?
00:06:32.000 So let's take Joe Biden.
00:06:33.000 Joe Biden is a regime candidate.
00:06:37.000 D.C. does great work.
00:06:39.000 D.C. is doing wonderful things.
00:06:41.000 Continue to give us more power and we're going to keep on administering the business.
00:06:45.000 The machine created him, but his message is basically the government is good.
00:06:50.000 Give us more power.
00:06:52.000 Nothing to see here.
00:06:54.000 How about no labels?
00:06:56.000 No labels is a DC is good and we just need to find more ways to restore our institutions, to come to agreement, to come to a middle ground.
00:07:13.000 No labels is a high trust, almost old Republican way, like a Nelson Rockefeller-type Republican.
00:07:22.000 Get back to business as usual.
00:07:23.000 Can't we just agree to, you know, administer our borders a little bit better and give money to Ukraine?
00:07:31.000 No labels is built on high trust of institutions.
00:07:35.000 Bipartisanship is great.
00:07:37.000 And now the obvious one, Donald Trump.
00:07:40.000 Donald Trump's entire campaign now, which is why he's starting to build support with younger voters, build support with Hispanic voters, and build support with black voters, is very simply this.
00:07:56.000 The government is lying to you.
00:07:58.000 The government spied on me.
00:08:00.000 We have a great country and we have an awful government.
00:08:04.000 That is the root of all of Donald Trump's candidacy right now.
00:08:07.000 And he is reading the room correctly.
00:08:10.000 That is a coalition that can win after the lies of the lockdowns, the lies of masks, the lies of the vaccines, 100% safe and effective, the lies of the border.
00:08:22.000 But then you look at this other candidate that is running for office, and you have to ask yourself the question: do you put them in high trust or low trust?
00:08:32.000 That's the way to look at it.
00:08:33.000 Not Republican, Democrat, not liberal, conservative.
00:08:36.000 Those paradigms no longer apply.
00:08:40.000 Is the candidate spending most of their time on criticizing the government or supporting the government?
00:08:50.000 So RFK Jr. is running for the Democrat nomination.
00:08:54.000 He's not going to win the Democrat nomination.
00:08:57.000 So now RFK Jr. is probing whether or not he should run as a libertarian.
00:09:08.000 Now the media is saying that this would be a nightmare scenario for Joe Biden.
00:09:14.000 Joe Biden's nightmare election scenario might be coming true.
00:09:18.000 Speculation that RFK Jr. may leave the Democrat Party could turn Joe Biden's 2024 nightmare reelection into a reality.
00:09:27.000 Newsweek.com.
00:09:29.000 Disastrous defeat looms for Joe Biden if RFK Jr. runs as a third-party candidate.
00:09:35.000 He's thinking of running as a libertarian.
00:09:38.000 And they say they have polling to support this.
00:09:42.000 Is that true?
00:09:44.000 Would RFK Jr. running for the presidency hurt Joe Biden or hurt Donald Trump?
00:09:52.000 Well, I want you to email us, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:09:57.000 Do you have a generally good or generally negative opinion of RFK Jr.?
00:10:04.000 I want to hear from you, and it will prove my point or disprove the point I'm going to make.
00:10:09.000 Generally, not that you agree with him on everything.
00:10:11.000 Do you agree with him more than you disagree or you disagree more than you agree?
00:10:14.000 Do you find him helpful or unhelpful?
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00:11:03.000 According to Ras Musin, they say, oh, wow, RFK Jr. is going to take all this support from Joe Biden because Democrats, it says here that if Democrats and Republicans nominate Biden and Trump, Kennedy running as an independent, 33% of Democrat voters would likely vote for him according to the poll.
00:11:21.000 First of all, they're wrong.
00:11:23.000 Second of all, you know that a lot of Democrats vote for Trump.
00:11:26.000 So these are low trust of government registered Democrats that otherwise would be voting for Trump.
00:11:31.000 So anyway, we received about 600 emails and only four had a negative opinion of RFK Jr.
00:11:38.000 And this is a very conservative audience.
00:11:41.000 So, I mean, I could read one after the other, after the other, after the other.
00:11:44.000 Love RFK, love his message, think he's great, love RFK, terrific.
00:11:48.000 So the media is telling you, they're trying to almost create this, the preconditions where they say RFK Jr. will hurt Biden.
00:11:59.000 There's no evidence of that.
00:12:00.000 I mean, yeah, there's some polling here.
00:12:03.000 But what is more important when you think analytically and critically, does RFK Jr. better fit the form of a worldview of a Trump voter or a form of a worldview of a Biden voter?
00:12:16.000 And it's much closer to a Trump voter, especially Trump voters.
00:12:21.000 And it goes back to low trust, high trust.
00:12:25.000 And so a Trump voter or someone who can become a Trump voter, who might not be on fire for Trump, are people that don't love Donald Trump's embracing of the COVID shot, number one.
00:12:38.000 They did not like Donald Trump's enlisting of Anthony Fauci in the federal government, number two.
00:12:44.000 Number three, they did not like Donald Trump even getting close to administering or pushing forward 15 days to slow the spread.
00:12:53.000 Otherwise known as in 2020, they didn't like any of the COVID stuff.
00:12:58.000 Now, yes, RFK is awful on abortion, climate alarmism, but RFK Jr. is articulate against big pharma, big government, and the intel agencies.
00:13:14.000 How many times have we said on this program that the biggest issue in the 2024 election is the deconstruction of the administrative state?
00:13:24.000 That is RFK Jr.'s entire plan.
00:13:28.000 In fact, we could get tape after tape of his interview with James O'Keefe.
00:13:31.000 In fact, I think we should.
00:13:32.000 If you just read the transcript, you would think that he was reading MAGA talking points where he says, I stay up at night.
00:13:41.000 A direct quote. 0.90
00:13:42.000 He says, in those moments right before I fall asleep, I dream of how I will cut the head off the snake of the FBI.
00:13:51.000 RFK Jr. sits down with Tucker Carlson and many other people and says that the FBI and the government killed his uncle and might have killed his father.
00:14:03.000 Does that sound like something a Biden voter would believe?
00:14:07.000 No, a typical Biden voter is an NPC, non-player character, to use video game language, someone who just wears the Ukraine flag, wears the mask, takes the vaccine.
00:14:21.000 Let me prove it to you in a different way.
00:14:24.000 Anybody that will vote for RFK Jr. is far more of a free thinker than anyone that would ever tolerate Joe Biden.
00:14:37.000 RFK Jr. goes after the military-industrial complex, vaccine side effects, pollutants in our air, environmental toxins.
00:14:48.000 These are people that believe that there's a large, let's say, cabal, a crime syndicate.
00:14:56.000 These are people that are low propensity, probably will go for Trump voters.
00:15:04.000 And it's proven.
00:15:04.000 Now the emails keep on coming in and in and in and in, where here you are, a largely conservative audience, a largely pro-Trump audience that is telling me RFK Jr. is terrific.
00:15:18.000 And so the media is telling you something else, though.
00:15:20.000 The media is trying to say RFK Jr. will hurt Biden.
00:15:25.000 Boy, if I was in the Biden campaign and I saw that Cornell West was running, who does hurt Biden, and I saw that no labels was running, which does hurt Biden, wouldn't I deploy a mockingbird media narrative to try and splinter the Republican base and make it seem as if RFK Jr. running hurts Biden?
00:15:47.000 And let's talk about younger voters.
00:15:50.000 Young men who do not like all of the game against them.
00:15:55.000 Young women's a separate category, but they were less likely to take the vaccine.
00:15:58.000 They saw all this nonsense.
00:16:00.000 RFK Jr. can be a comforting selection, and these people otherwise might have been able to be persuaded to vote for Trump.
00:16:07.000 And here is a fact.
00:16:10.000 Anytime a Libertarian runs in a red state, anytime they take two Republicans for every one Democrat.
00:16:17.000 That's proven in Georgia.
00:16:19.000 It's proven in Montana.
00:16:20.000 It's proven in Arizona.
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00:17:26.000 All right, let me just read this one email.
00:17:28.000 Charlie loved the show.
00:17:30.000 I like RFK Jr.
00:17:31.000 He's intelligent, well-read, and has hand on the pulse.
00:17:33.000 What's going on?
00:17:34.000 He's not quite America first like Trump.
00:17:36.000 Trump is definitely my choice because I think that he's God's choice. 0.99
00:17:39.000 But Biden is corrupt. 0.90
00:17:40.000 And if I had to have a number two, it would be RFK Jr.
00:17:43.000 If RFK Jr. takes Trump votes, I hope he does not run.
00:17:48.000 Okay, so we're getting lots of emails around that.
00:17:51.000 So let me just prove this to you.
00:17:54.000 There is tape after tape after tape where he sounds as if he is speaking the language of MAGA.
00:18:04.000 The administrative state is engaging in clandestine activities.
00:18:07.000 There's a deep state of our government that might have been involved in assassination that they are trying to overturn the duly elected will of the American people.
00:18:17.000 Here is one tape of many.
00:18:19.000 But does this sound like something that a New York Times subscribing, Xanax-taking suburban wine mom will believe?
00:18:30.000 Whatever the government tells me is right, get me the ninth booster.
00:18:33.000 Or a free-thinking 28-year-old Joe Rogan viewer who might have a tilt towards Trump, which one of the categories would be more likely to vote for this message?
00:18:45.000 Play cut 89, please.
00:18:47.000 And two months later, the military and intelligence came to him and said, we got to invade Cuba.
00:18:52.000 And he was like, I'm not going to Cuba and I'm not going to let the military.
00:18:57.000 And he said, well, the U.S. government can't be doing that.
00:18:59.000 I don't like what Cash was doing down there, but it's not the United States' job to dictate what kind of governments other countries have.
00:19:07.000 He stepped out of that meeting and he realized they had been lying to him and tried to trick him.
00:19:12.000 And he said, I want to take the CIA and shatter it into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds.
00:19:18.000 For the next 1,000 days of his presidency, he was at war with his military and intelligence apparatus.
00:19:23.000 They tried to get him to go into Laos.
00:19:25.000 He said, no.
00:19:26.000 And he signed that day a national security order ordering all troops out of Vietnam, U.S. troops.
00:19:32.000 And then a month later, he was killed.
00:19:35.000 And a month later, he was killed.
00:19:37.000 Play cut 88.
00:19:38.000 Does this sound like your typical regime Democrat or a populist constitutionalist?
00:19:45.000 Play cut 88.
00:19:47.000 To summarize the evidence, there are, as I said in that podcast, there are confessions of people who were directly involved in the plot, who are involved in the planning of the plot, who were peripheral to the plot.
00:20:03.000 There's a six-figure cover-up.
00:20:06.000 You know, the Warren Commission was run by Alan Dulles, who was the head of the CIA, who my uncle fired, and then insinuated himself onto the Warren Commission and essentially ran the Warren Commission and kept this evidence from the Warren Commissioners.
00:20:23.000 And there's another piece of tape that we're digging up where he just says, I'm going to obliterate the administrative state.
00:20:28.000 So the media tells you, though, that the guy that is speaking like a Trump voter, the guy that is hesitant against the vaccine, is somehow going to win voters who took the ninth booster.
00:20:40.000 How does that make any sense?
00:20:42.000 So let's just take the vaccine issue in particular.
00:20:45.000 The most likely to take every single one of those boosters are Democrats because they trust what power centers are telling them.
00:20:54.000 They trust what the military industrial complex is telling them.
00:20:58.000 They love masks.
00:20:58.000 They do whatever they're told.
00:21:01.000 And we're supposed to believe that those people that wear masks alone in a car and have their kids socially distanced for two and a half years are suddenly going to go vote for RFK Jr.
00:21:16.000 No.
00:21:17.000 Maybe some of them, but far more of the I don't trust the government brigade would vote for RFK Jr. if he were to run as a libertarian, which then begs the question, why are there so many articles out of nowhere, ex nihilo, pushing RFK Jr. saying he's going to hurt Biden?
00:21:39.000 This feels like an op, a scheme, a strategy, a machination, a plot, a ploy, where they're trying to convince you that this is bad for Biden to run as a libertarian.
00:21:53.000 Now, let's just think about this.
00:21:54.000 Is there any evidence, any evidence that when a libertarian runs for office, it hurts Democrats?
00:22:04.000 Any evidence?
00:22:05.000 No.
00:22:07.000 In fact, libertarians being on the ballot almost always hurt Republicans.
00:22:14.000 And we know this.
00:22:15.000 We see it in so many different states.
00:22:18.000 Libertarian being on the ballot hurt Donald Trump in Arizona and Georgia in 2020 and hurt us in the Kelly Loeffler David Perdue Senate race.
00:22:27.000 So now the media is trying to convince you because of some flimsy polling.
00:22:31.000 And again, I am receiving hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of emails.
00:22:37.000 Charlie, love RFK Jr.
00:22:38.000 He's a man of his own ideas.
00:22:40.000 He should have, Trump should pick him as his vice president.
00:22:43.000 Whoa, whoa, No, he should not.
00:22:46.000 That's a bad idea.
00:22:48.000 Okay.
00:22:49.000 Now, it's not, I'm not saying that you're coming to that conclusion clumsily.
00:22:56.000 I'm just saying that it's a bad idea.
00:22:59.000 Let's say that Donald Trump were to no longer be president.
00:23:03.000 You're going to have a pro-abortion guy who calls Moms for Liberty a hate group, someone who says, I'm going to be the most trans president, pro-trans president in history, be one heartbeat away.
00:23:13.000 Now, Bannon pushes this.
00:23:15.000 And I just see it differently than Steve Bannon.
00:23:18.000 I don't want a guy, RFK Jr., who says I am going to be the most pro-trans president in history being the tiebreaker in the U.S. Senate.
00:23:28.000 So he's vice president, and let's say we have a 50-50 Senate and we need to confirm a Supreme Court justice.
00:23:32.000 And RFK Jr. is like, nah, nah.
00:23:36.000 That's a bad idea.
00:23:38.000 You need ideological and worldview harmony between the president and the vice president.
00:23:45.000 You want to make RFK Jr. special commissar to slay the head of the deep state?
00:23:50.000 Great. 0.67
00:23:50.000 We could fire you at will. 0.67
00:23:51.000 Congratulations.
00:23:52.000 You want to make RFK Jr. chairman of the FDA Reform Committee?
00:23:56.000 All for it.
00:23:57.000 You want to make RFK Jr. the head of the vaccine adverse event, you know, investigatory, you know, committee?
00:24:06.000 Fine.
00:24:07.000 Vice president?
00:24:09.000 No.
00:24:09.000 The vice president should be someone that, God forbid, the president no longer serves.
00:24:14.000 There is not any daylight between the worldview whatsoever.
00:24:19.000 Not to mention RFK Jr.'s anti-2A and all that stuff.
00:24:24.000 He has a niche that he's excellent at, and I support him in that.
00:24:28.000 Talking about how the administrative state is overturning the will of the American people, how you have an unelected, unknown fourth branch of government that is constantly usurping what the American people want.
00:24:40.000 And so then you say, well, what should RFK Jr. do?
00:24:43.000 So RFK Jr. running in the Democrat primary is terrific.
00:24:47.000 It's hilarious.
00:24:48.000 It creates unbelievable everyday hypocrisy that the Democrat Party, the Party of Democracy, won't have elections and they suspend the primary.
00:24:56.000 That's fine.
00:24:57.000 But then if RFK Jr. were to run as a libertarian, he very well could cancel out any of the Green Party ticket that could help Trump, any of the no labels ticket.
00:25:10.000 So there's a national review article all about how RFK can hurt Biden because he's the most serious Democrat challenger to Biden, polling in double digits.
00:25:20.000 I don't believe it.
00:25:23.000 I don't.
00:25:24.000 I don't believe the people that told us that Mask and Vax, grandma is going to die, are suddenly going to go vote for the guy that says that Anthony Fauci is a war criminal.
00:25:37.000 I don't, that is incomprehensible to me.
00:25:41.000 If he runs in the Democrat primary, great.
00:25:44.000 Splinter it, cause chaos.
00:25:47.000 And I will prove this to you.
00:25:49.000 Just last week, just last week, RFK Jr. did a fundraiser with Eric Clapton.
00:25:56.000 Without saying any names, I knew 15 turning point donors that went to that event and contributed.
00:26:03.000 15.
00:26:05.000 It is not Democrats that are financing RFK Jr.
00:26:09.000 It is not traditional rank and file left-wingers.
00:26:12.000 The biggest donor to RFK Jr. is who?
00:26:15.000 Anybody?
00:26:16.000 Anybody?
00:26:16.000 It's all public.
00:26:17.000 It's a man by the name of Timothy Mellon from Wyoming, who also gave huge money to fund Greg Abbott's border wall.
00:26:27.000 He was Mitch McConnell's number one donor.
00:26:30.000 And he gives significantly to RFK Jr.
00:26:33.000 So Democrats aren't financing him.
00:26:35.000 Democrats aren't supporting him.
00:26:37.000 So who are the people that are behind him?
00:26:40.000 The answer is low trust voters in the entire cabal.
00:26:47.000 So therefore, if RFK Jr. were to read, were to run as a libertarian, it could splinter the MAGA movement from us getting to victory.
00:26:58.000 The entire theme of the RFK Jr. candidacy is elites versus the people, the insiders versus the citizens.
00:27:09.000 So just run as a Democrat and destroy Biden's narrative.
00:27:14.000 But when it comes to the general election, I think it would hurt Donald Trump's chances significantly.
00:27:22.000 And the media tells you the opposite, which makes me believe it even more.
00:27:31.000 Karen emails us, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:27:34.000 I like RFK Jr. too, but now I see why he will hurt Trump running as a libertarian, but not Biden.
00:27:40.000 Again, that is now thousands of emails.
00:27:42.000 And we have, I think, not just, I think, objectively the numbers, one of the largest conservative audiences in the country.
00:27:51.000 And I'm not getting emails of people that are, I mean, a couple people say, oh, yeah, you know, RFK is a fraud on this and that.
00:27:56.000 But if I were to say, what is your opinion of John Fetterman?
00:27:59.000 I would receive 5,000 just over-the-top angry emails.
00:28:02.000 In fact, this is what's interesting.
00:28:05.000 If I would say, hey, what is your opinion of Mitt Romney?
00:28:09.000 You would be far more negative than RFK Jr.
00:28:13.000 But here's where RFK Jr. could potentially undo Joe Biden.
00:28:18.000 That Ted Kennedy, RFK Jr.'s uncle, Chapaquittick, ran a formidable primary challenge to Jimmy Carter in 1980.
00:28:30.000 Some people say that is ultimately what undid him.
00:28:33.000 It caused cracks in the confidence of Democrat voters.
00:28:37.000 So if RFK Jr., the best case scenario for us conservatives, and I'm not here to tell what RFK could do because he's going to do his own thing.
00:28:44.000 And maybe deep down, RFK actually wants Joe Biden to win another term.
00:28:49.000 He is a Democrat.
00:28:50.000 Maybe deep down, RFK Jr. is going to try to make good to save his reputation as the Camelot Kennedys and actually get Biden across the finish line.
00:29:01.000 Who knows?
00:29:02.000 I don't know what is driving RFK Jr.
00:29:04.000 Is it principle?
00:29:05.000 Is it populism?
00:29:06.000 Is it last minute bailing out the Democrat Party, which he has been a member of his entire life?
00:29:13.000 Be skeptical, everybody.
00:29:15.000 I have low trust across the board and you should too.
00:29:18.000 But what would be the best case scenario?
00:29:22.000 The best case scenario would be RFK Jr. running in a primary, a hard primary challenge, getting 15 to 30% of the vote in the Democrat primary.
00:29:34.000 Now, you might say, but Charlie, you're contradicting yourself.
00:29:37.000 How could you say that RFK Jr. could do so well in the primary, but he wouldn't be able to pull those votes in a general?
00:29:45.000 Because Donald Trump wins a lot of Democrat primary voters.
00:29:49.000 That's why.
00:29:51.000 That is the major glitch in the matrix is that Donald Trump does very, very well with registered Democrats, especially white working class registered Democrats.
00:30:05.000 This is a fact.
00:30:06.000 A lot of people will vote for RFK in the Democrat primary and then vote for Trump in the general election.
00:30:12.000 That's a real thing.
00:30:14.000 So the best case scenario for America would be for RFK Jr. to just be a nonstop irritation to Joe Biden in the primary, get robbed of the primary and be very angry and bitter, Bernie Sanders, a la 2016, and basically vanish and disappear for five months between July and November of 2024.
00:30:38.000 That would be the absolute best case scenario, forget for Trump, but for the nation, for the country.
00:30:44.000 And in some way, you know, I'm happy to broker this live on air.
00:30:48.000 Somebody needs to approach Team Kennedy and say, listen, if you run as a third party candidate, Joe Biden will probably win reelection, or you'll help him.
00:31:00.000 You help the machine.
00:31:01.000 RFK, here's the peace offering.
00:31:03.000 Donald Trump will slay the deep state.
00:31:06.000 He's already said he's going to have a special commission in adverse events on vaccines.
00:31:10.000 You will get none of that.
00:31:11.000 You will get none of that with Biden.
00:31:13.000 He said he's going to help topple the FBI.
00:31:16.000 So go run in the primary, make as much noise as possible.
00:31:20.000 But you running as a libertarian will hurt all of your lifelong goals of trying to expose Pfizer, expose AstraZeneca, expose Johnson and Johnson.
00:31:34.000 That conversation needs to happen to RFK Jr. publicly, privately.
00:31:38.000 I've texted with him a fair amount to try to get him on the program.
00:31:41.000 Nothing that extensive.
00:31:44.000 Trump should also go to him and say, I will harness your expertise as a surgical strike against the administrative state in my new administration.
00:31:56.000 I will empower you.
00:31:58.000 I will deploy you.
00:31:59.000 I will give you power in the 47th presidency of the office.
00:32:04.000 So go run as a Democrat in the primary, RFK.
00:32:06.000 Make as much noise as possible.
00:32:08.000 Make a scene at the Chicago DNC convention.
00:32:13.000 Talk about how they're the party of oligarchy and they're not doing anything.
00:32:16.000 Raise hell against the Democrats in the primary and then disappear and vanish, please, for like five months.
00:32:23.000 That would be ideal.
00:32:27.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:32:28.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:32:31.000 Thank you so much for listening and God bless.
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