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00:01:03.000He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:01:09.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:55.000We have our event tomorrow, our Turning Point USA event with Dennis Prager, so I'll watch the highlights.
00:02:00.000Donald Trump will not be attending that debate.
00:02:03.000We have also talked about how Joe Biden is very unpopular.
00:02:06.000Republicans are stepping up, largely led thanks by Turning Point Action to ballot chase and register voters and get into the communities that matter for low propensity type voter turnout, building the plumbing and the machinery of elections.
00:02:19.000God bless Turning Point Action for taking a leadership role in this regard.
00:02:24.000We've also mentioned, though, how third-party candidates can make the 2024 race unpredictable, chaotic, and interesting.
00:02:32.000A couple weeks ago, there was an article, Politico.com.
00:02:36.000Biden camp scrambles to stop Cornell West and no labels from getting on the ballot.
00:02:42.000Now, of course, the party of democracy, oligarchy, is trying to prevent choice in elections.
00:02:52.000They want one size fits all top-down authoritarian political choices.
00:02:58.000I think it's helpful to divide people running for office into two buckets.
00:03:04.000Now, this is overly simplified, but it's helpful.
00:03:08.000So traditionally, in the 60s, 70s, and 80s, and 2000s, all up until Barack Obama, it all changed once Obama became president.
00:03:19.000Democrats and the Democrat base were motivated by low trust in government.
00:03:26.000In the 60s, 70s, and 80s, Democrats would say the intel agencies were spying on their Democrat activist groups like the Black Panthers and the Students for a Democrat Society.
00:03:37.000There was some truth to that, but they would say that they don't trust the government when it comes to the police.
00:03:42.000They were largely motivated by low trust in the government, a low trust type society.
00:03:48.000Republicans in the 70s, 80s, and 90s were high trust.
00:03:53.000That was the party of Reagan and H.W. Bush and George W. Bush.
00:03:57.000That the government is there to administer the business of the people.
00:04:01.000Of course, we'll start the Department of Homeland Security.
00:04:19.000Hillary Clinton was in favor of the war of Iraq.
00:04:22.000Barack Obama ran a campaign in 2007 and 2008 on low trust of government, saying that he was going to close down Gitmo, saying that he was going to stop the spying of American citizens, saying that he was going to restore citizen government.
00:04:42.000Now, all of that changed, obviously, where Barack Obama and the Democrat Party embraced the power that they found themselves in.
00:04:51.000Things inverted slowly, and it really changed when Donald Trump ran for office.
00:04:56.000When Donald Trump upset the apple cart of the Unit Party in D.C., Donald Trump and the movement of citizens that we call MAGA started to say, wait a second, we don't trust the government when it comes to immigration.
00:05:09.000We don't trust the government that spies on Donald Trump and infiltrates his campaign.
00:05:14.000We don't trust the government that launched two separate impeachments against Donald Trump.
00:05:21.000And that was there, but then the lockdowns and our reaction to COVID really changed everything.
00:05:28.000The Democrat Party went all in on worshiping of the state and power centers of Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Moderna, and Johnson Johnson.
00:05:38.000And intentionally or unintentionally, the Republican Party became skeptical of all major government authority.
00:05:46.000Now, there are always some elements of this in the Republican Party.
00:05:49.000They'd usually find themselves in more libertarian circles.
00:05:54.000But now, if you go to the rank and file of the Republican base of Trump voters, there is unanimous support against deconstructing the deep state.
00:06:05.000They don't trust anything the power centers of the country are telling them.
00:06:10.000And in some ways, that's exactly what grassroots Democrats were saying in the 70s and 80s.
00:06:17.000So you could break people running for the president into one of two buckets.
00:06:21.000Is their message largely centered on building trust or maintaining trust in the federal government or challenging trust and trying to criticize the federal government?
00:06:56.000No labels is a DC is good and we just need to find more ways to restore our institutions, to come to agreement, to come to a middle ground.
00:07:13.000No labels is a high trust, almost old Republican way, like a Nelson Rockefeller-type Republican.
00:07:37.000And now the obvious one, Donald Trump.
00:07:40.000Donald Trump's entire campaign now, which is why he's starting to build support with younger voters, build support with Hispanic voters, and build support with black voters, is very simply this.
00:08:10.000That is a coalition that can win after the lies of the lockdowns, the lies of masks, the lies of the vaccines, 100% safe and effective, the lies of the border.
00:08:22.000But then you look at this other candidate that is running for office, and you have to ask yourself the question: do you put them in high trust or low trust?
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00:11:03.000According to Ras Musin, they say, oh, wow, RFK Jr. is going to take all this support from Joe Biden because Democrats, it says here that if Democrats and Republicans nominate Biden and Trump, Kennedy running as an independent, 33% of Democrat voters would likely vote for him according to the poll.
00:12:00.000I mean, yeah, there's some polling here.
00:12:03.000But what is more important when you think analytically and critically, does RFK Jr. better fit the form of a worldview of a Trump voter or a form of a worldview of a Biden voter?
00:12:16.000And it's much closer to a Trump voter, especially Trump voters.
00:12:21.000And it goes back to low trust, high trust.
00:12:25.000And so a Trump voter or someone who can become a Trump voter, who might not be on fire for Trump, are people that don't love Donald Trump's embracing of the COVID shot, number one.
00:12:38.000They did not like Donald Trump's enlisting of Anthony Fauci in the federal government, number two.
00:12:44.000Number three, they did not like Donald Trump even getting close to administering or pushing forward 15 days to slow the spread.
00:12:53.000Otherwise known as in 2020, they didn't like any of the COVID stuff.
00:12:58.000Now, yes, RFK is awful on abortion, climate alarmism, but RFK Jr. is articulate against big pharma, big government, and the intel agencies.
00:13:14.000How many times have we said on this program that the biggest issue in the 2024 election is the deconstruction of the administrative state?
00:13:42.000He says, in those moments right before I fall asleep, I dream of how I will cut the head off the snake of the FBI.
00:13:51.000RFK Jr. sits down with Tucker Carlson and many other people and says that the FBI and the government killed his uncle and might have killed his father.
00:14:03.000Does that sound like something a Biden voter would believe?
00:14:07.000No, a typical Biden voter is an NPC, non-player character, to use video game language, someone who just wears the Ukraine flag, wears the mask, takes the vaccine.
00:14:21.000Let me prove it to you in a different way.
00:14:24.000Anybody that will vote for RFK Jr. is far more of a free thinker than anyone that would ever tolerate Joe Biden.
00:14:37.000RFK Jr. goes after the military-industrial complex, vaccine side effects, pollutants in our air, environmental toxins.
00:14:48.000These are people that believe that there's a large, let's say, cabal, a crime syndicate.
00:14:56.000These are people that are low propensity, probably will go for Trump voters.
00:15:04.000Now the emails keep on coming in and in and in and in, where here you are, a largely conservative audience, a largely pro-Trump audience that is telling me RFK Jr. is terrific.
00:15:18.000And so the media is telling you something else, though.
00:15:20.000The media is trying to say RFK Jr. will hurt Biden.
00:15:25.000Boy, if I was in the Biden campaign and I saw that Cornell West was running, who does hurt Biden, and I saw that no labels was running, which does hurt Biden, wouldn't I deploy a mockingbird media narrative to try and splinter the Republican base and make it seem as if RFK Jr. running hurts Biden?
00:17:54.000There is tape after tape after tape where he sounds as if he is speaking the language of MAGA.
00:18:04.000The administrative state is engaging in clandestine activities.
00:18:07.000There's a deep state of our government that might have been involved in assassination that they are trying to overturn the duly elected will of the American people.
00:18:19.000But does this sound like something that a New York Times subscribing, Xanax-taking suburban wine mom will believe?
00:18:30.000Whatever the government tells me is right, get me the ninth booster.
00:18:33.000Or a free-thinking 28-year-old Joe Rogan viewer who might have a tilt towards Trump, which one of the categories would be more likely to vote for this message?
00:19:47.000To summarize the evidence, there are, as I said in that podcast, there are confessions of people who were directly involved in the plot, who are involved in the planning of the plot, who were peripheral to the plot.
00:20:06.000You know, the Warren Commission was run by Alan Dulles, who was the head of the CIA, who my uncle fired, and then insinuated himself onto the Warren Commission and essentially ran the Warren Commission and kept this evidence from the Warren Commissioners.
00:20:23.000And there's another piece of tape that we're digging up where he just says, I'm going to obliterate the administrative state.
00:20:28.000So the media tells you, though, that the guy that is speaking like a Trump voter, the guy that is hesitant against the vaccine, is somehow going to win voters who took the ninth booster.
00:21:01.000And we're supposed to believe that those people that wear masks alone in a car and have their kids socially distanced for two and a half years are suddenly going to go vote for RFK Jr.
00:21:17.000Maybe some of them, but far more of the I don't trust the government brigade would vote for RFK Jr. if he were to run as a libertarian, which then begs the question, why are there so many articles out of nowhere, ex nihilo, pushing RFK Jr. saying he's going to hurt Biden?
00:21:39.000This feels like an op, a scheme, a strategy, a machination, a plot, a ploy, where they're trying to convince you that this is bad for Biden to run as a libertarian.
00:22:15.000We see it in so many different states.
00:22:18.000Libertarian being on the ballot hurt Donald Trump in Arizona and Georgia in 2020 and hurt us in the Kelly Loeffler David Perdue Senate race.
00:22:27.000So now the media is trying to convince you because of some flimsy polling.
00:22:31.000And again, I am receiving hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of emails.
00:22:59.000Let's say that Donald Trump were to no longer be president.
00:23:03.000You're going to have a pro-abortion guy who calls Moms for Liberty a hate group, someone who says, I'm going to be the most trans president, pro-trans president in history, be one heartbeat away.
00:24:09.000The vice president should be someone that, God forbid, the president no longer serves.
00:24:14.000There is not any daylight between the worldview whatsoever.
00:24:19.000Not to mention RFK Jr.'s anti-2A and all that stuff.
00:24:24.000He has a niche that he's excellent at, and I support him in that.
00:24:28.000Talking about how the administrative state is overturning the will of the American people, how you have an unelected, unknown fourth branch of government that is constantly usurping what the American people want.
00:24:40.000And so then you say, well, what should RFK Jr. do?
00:24:43.000So RFK Jr. running in the Democrat primary is terrific.
00:24:48.000It creates unbelievable everyday hypocrisy that the Democrat Party, the Party of Democracy, won't have elections and they suspend the primary.
00:24:57.000But then if RFK Jr. were to run as a libertarian, he very well could cancel out any of the Green Party ticket that could help Trump, any of the no labels ticket.
00:25:10.000So there's a national review article all about how RFK can hurt Biden because he's the most serious Democrat challenger to Biden, polling in double digits.
00:25:24.000I don't believe the people that told us that Mask and Vax, grandma is going to die, are suddenly going to go vote for the guy that says that Anthony Fauci is a war criminal.
00:25:37.000I don't, that is incomprehensible to me.
00:25:41.000If he runs in the Democrat primary, great.
00:28:05.000If I would say, hey, what is your opinion of Mitt Romney?
00:28:09.000You would be far more negative than RFK Jr.
00:28:13.000But here's where RFK Jr. could potentially undo Joe Biden.
00:28:18.000That Ted Kennedy, RFK Jr.'s uncle, Chapaquittick, ran a formidable primary challenge to Jimmy Carter in 1980.
00:28:30.000Some people say that is ultimately what undid him.
00:28:33.000It caused cracks in the confidence of Democrat voters.
00:28:37.000So if RFK Jr., the best case scenario for us conservatives, and I'm not here to tell what RFK could do because he's going to do his own thing.
00:28:44.000And maybe deep down, RFK actually wants Joe Biden to win another term.
00:28:50.000Maybe deep down, RFK Jr. is going to try to make good to save his reputation as the Camelot Kennedys and actually get Biden across the finish line.
00:29:15.000I have low trust across the board and you should too.
00:29:18.000But what would be the best case scenario?
00:29:22.000The best case scenario would be RFK Jr. running in a primary, a hard primary challenge, getting 15 to 30% of the vote in the Democrat primary.
00:29:34.000Now, you might say, but Charlie, you're contradicting yourself.
00:29:37.000How could you say that RFK Jr. could do so well in the primary, but he wouldn't be able to pull those votes in a general?
00:29:45.000Because Donald Trump wins a lot of Democrat primary voters.
00:29:51.000That is the major glitch in the matrix is that Donald Trump does very, very well with registered Democrats, especially white working class registered Democrats.
00:30:14.000So the best case scenario for America would be for RFK Jr. to just be a nonstop irritation to Joe Biden in the primary, get robbed of the primary and be very angry and bitter, Bernie Sanders, a la 2016, and basically vanish and disappear for five months between July and November of 2024.
00:30:38.000That would be the absolute best case scenario, forget for Trump, but for the nation, for the country.
00:30:44.000And in some way, you know, I'm happy to broker this live on air.
00:30:48.000Somebody needs to approach Team Kennedy and say, listen, if you run as a third party candidate, Joe Biden will probably win reelection, or you'll help him.
00:31:13.000He said he's going to help topple the FBI.
00:31:16.000So go run in the primary, make as much noise as possible.
00:31:20.000But you running as a libertarian will hurt all of your lifelong goals of trying to expose Pfizer, expose AstraZeneca, expose Johnson and Johnson.
00:31:34.000That conversation needs to happen to RFK Jr. publicly, privately.
00:31:38.000I've texted with him a fair amount to try to get him on the program.
00:31:44.000Trump should also go to him and say, I will harness your expertise as a surgical strike against the administrative state in my new administration.