The Charlie Kirk Show - August 19, 2022


Does the GOP Actually Want to Lose?


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Does the Republican Party want MAGA to lose? That's the question we asked the entire hour of the Charlie Kirk Show, and it's a question that has been on our minds for a long time. Today's episode is a mashup of a few of my favorite moments from today's show.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today at the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:00:01.000 Do Republicans want MAGA to lose?
00:00:04.000 Do Republicans want to lose?
00:00:05.000 That's the question we asked the entire hour.
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00:01:13.000 Does the Republican Party want to lose?
00:01:19.000 Right now, Republicans should have the wind at their back.
00:01:23.000 Red wave is what we were told.
00:01:26.000 Inflation, gas prices, open border, an incompetent president, the most unpopular president since polling has been invented.
00:01:33.000 Yet the Republican Party is struggling to raise money, get volunteers to show up for candidates, and according to some polls, down anywhere between 15 to 20 points.
00:01:43.000 And again, some of these polls I think are suppression polls.
00:01:46.000 However, there's something that isn't adding up.
00:01:49.000 There's something that doesn't make sense.
00:01:53.000 Why is the Republican Party acting like this?
00:01:58.000 It does beg the question, does the Republican establishment want to lose?
00:02:05.000 Why would they want to lose?
00:02:06.000 I thought all they care about is power.
00:02:09.000 Well, I lived to the Tea Party movement.
00:02:11.000 Not only did I live to the Tea Party movement, I was a volunteer and an activist.
00:02:11.000 So did many of you.
00:02:14.000 It's really where I got my start.
00:02:16.000 It was 2009, 2010, and the 2010 midterms.
00:02:19.000 You see, the 2010 midterms was such a triumph for the people that it scared the establishment in Washington, D.C. You see, the 2010 midterms was such a widespread repudiation of Democrat policies and in support of Republicans, it made the Uniparty less powerful.
00:02:44.000 It's where you started to get real fighters coming in to Washington, D.C. that weren't just saying the same thing over and over again.
00:02:52.000 It's where you started to get fighters like Rand Paul and many others.
00:02:56.000 So all of a sudden, the Uniparty was starting to say, wait a second, we can't necessarily control this.
00:03:03.000 You see, the 2010 midterm elections, when Barack Obama was passing health care and stimulus bills and deficit spending, Republicans responded with the Tea Party movement.
00:03:13.000 We won races all across the country in massive triumphs.
00:03:18.000 The election was widely characterized as a Tea Party Republican wave election.
00:03:24.000 Republicans won a net gain of 63 seats, the largest shift in seats since the 1948 elections.
00:03:33.000 And it also made the Republican establishment less powerful than ever before in a generation.
00:03:39.000 You see, there were new voices that they couldn't put in a box.
00:03:42.000 There were people that were willing to challenge Barack Obama on the border and on his outright Marxism.
00:03:49.000 That is not allowed in Washington, D.C.
00:03:52.000 Now, the establishment fought back and was able to get people in their place and was able to thwart a lot of this energy over a period of time.
00:04:02.000 You see, there was no MAGA movement.
00:04:04.000 There was no America First movement.
00:04:07.000 But you see, the inner rumblings right now of the Republican Party in Washington, D.C., I guarantee you, is if we're going to win, let's win by a little.
00:04:18.000 If we're going to win, let's make sure our Chamber of Commerce, easily controlled, vanilla, moderate, neoliberal candidates win.
00:04:28.000 We can't let people like JD Vance or Blake Masters possibly get across the finish line.
00:04:34.000 And if we lose, so what?
00:04:36.000 If we lose, at least we'll have our people, and we don't have the rabble-rousers or the troublemakers in the Republican Party.
00:04:45.000 You see, across the country, in Pennsylvania, for example, Dr. Oz is down anywhere between 15 to 20 points to Fetterman.
00:04:55.000 You have Blake Masters that is down a little bit to Mark Kelly.
00:04:59.000 Blake Masters, a phenomenal candidate.
00:05:01.000 JD Vance is down, I'd say he's up a little bit right now in Ohio.
00:05:05.000 It depends on what poll you look at.
00:05:06.000 Again, the polls, you got to take it with a little bit of a grain of salt because there's turnout and enthusiasm.
00:05:11.000 But the number that is most fascinating is how establishment Republican groups are no longer committing money to these races, how small dollar donations are drying up, and how all of a sudden we're seeing what should be a massive red wave election, huge support, incredible enthusiasm turn into a question of will Republicans actually end up losing more Senate seats than not?
00:05:38.000 What happened to the red wave?
00:05:40.000 What happened to the we're going to win 100 seats in 100 years?
00:05:45.000 Now, in the House of Representatives, I think that's going to happen.
00:05:48.000 I don't think they could put that genie back in the bottle, but we might just win slightly instead of winning massively.
00:05:55.000 Is it possible that your Republican Party, our Republican Party deep down, is cheering for a minor loss?
00:06:04.000 What could possibly be the calculation behind that?
00:06:07.000 The calculation is that a massive grassroots, people-centered, populist win will make the Republican establishment less powerful and displaced from power.
00:06:19.000 To go back to the Tea Party movement in 2010, that was a moment that terrified the oligarchs of Washington, D.C.
00:06:27.000 But it wasn't just 2010.
00:06:29.000 It was also 2016.
00:06:32.000 It was 10, it was 16, and they're worried that 22 could make 16 and 10 look like a little blip.
00:06:39.000 They're worried that a legitimate tsunami is brewing in this country, and your Republican establishment is worried that might be hard to manage.
00:06:49.000 You might get a lot of people like Marjorie Taylor Greene.
00:06:52.000 You might get a lot of people like Lauren Boebert.
00:06:54.000 We can't control those people.
00:06:55.000 They might start talking about Marxism and open borders when we, the Republican Party, we care about Ukraine.
00:07:03.000 We pledge fealty to Zelensky overall.
00:07:06.000 $56 billion sent to a foreign land of which the weapons are not accounted for.
00:07:11.000 Or they can't tell you where the money goes.
00:07:12.000 They can't tell you what success looks like.
00:07:14.000 Meanwhile, our border is invaded on a daily basis.
00:07:18.000 But no, as long as Zelensky gets his money, that's the priority of the Republican Party.
00:07:23.000 If you wanted to lose, this is how you would act.
00:07:26.000 And when I talk to regular grassroots voters, you know what they're saying?
00:07:29.000 They're saying the Republican Party doesn't speak for me.
00:07:31.000 They said crime is going up.
00:07:31.000 I say, why?
00:07:32.000 The border is wide open.
00:07:33.000 I can't afford anything.
00:07:34.000 Yet the Republican Party is focused on gun control.
00:07:38.000 They're focused on trying to appease the mainstream activist media.
00:07:43.000 They have vanilla-like responses to the raid at Mar-a-Lago.
00:07:46.000 These are not, by the way, necessarily strong conservatives that we're talking to.
00:07:51.000 It's all across the board.
00:07:52.000 Democrats stand for something.
00:07:54.000 You've got to give Democrats credit one regard.
00:07:56.000 They came to play ball this congressional session.
00:07:58.000 They passed one America destructive bill after the other.
00:08:03.000 They built an infrastructure bill.
00:08:05.000 They passed a build-back better small equivalent of a stimulus bill.
00:08:10.000 They passed the CHIPS Act.
00:08:12.000 They passed this latest thing of the Inflation Reduction Act, otherwise known as the Dissident Imprisonment Act.
00:08:19.000 They have power.
00:08:20.000 They use it.
00:08:21.000 Republicans don't even want power because power is very hard for people that would rather be tacticians.
00:08:29.000 They would rather be managers.
00:08:32.000 They're not here to save the country.
00:08:34.000 They're here to serve special interests, have a nice title, ride in chauffeured cars, and be known as a senator.
00:08:44.000 They're afraid that there is something bubbling up and they don't want to play into that.
00:08:51.000 Leaning in to the great populist energy that's happening in our country right now, leaning in to the fact that crime is up, that inflation is crushing the backs of people, that our border is wide open, that we have the genital mutilation of children, the chemical castration of kids without parental consent.
00:09:09.000 That might actually be too successful.
00:09:12.000 So we got to calm it down, lose by a little, raise money for our kind of crony candidates.
00:09:19.000 For example, where do you think McConnell is going to be sending money and endorsements like Tim Scott, Lisa Murkowski?
00:09:25.000 Murkowski is a perfect example of where the establishment is going to go try to go all in.
00:09:30.000 Murkowski will do everything that she's asked of.
00:09:32.000 She votes to convict Donald Trump in impeachment. 0.63
00:09:35.000 She votes for all these silly big spending bills. 1.00
00:09:37.000 But are you kidding me? 0.88
00:09:38.000 Blake Masters?
00:09:40.000 He's hard to control.
00:09:42.000 Don't want to get behind Blake Masters.
00:09:44.000 I'm going to ask the question.
00:09:46.000 I want your thoughts, freedom, at charliekirk.com.
00:09:48.000 Do you think the Republican establishment wants to lose?
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00:10:55.000 The Republican establishment has to do everything they possibly can to try to manage.
00:11:00.000 Now, let me reword this.
00:11:02.000 It's not necessarily that they want the Republican Party to lose.
00:11:05.000 They just don't want MAGA to win.
00:11:08.000 It's a better way to word it.
00:11:10.000 They don't want the grassroots, people-centered populist movement to be able to achieve victory.
00:11:17.000 And ABC News is noticing this, by the way.
00:11:20.000 They're noticing that the fundamentals, the framework, the baseline is eerily similar to the period of time that many of you marched in and many of you participated in, the 2010 midterm elections.
00:11:33.000 Play cut 110.
00:11:35.000 And more concerning for Joe Biden and for Democrats generally is if you look at our latest poll out today, the percentage of voters saying that they will vote for Republicans in the midterm elections is at the highest level that we have seen since 2010.
00:11:51.000 And you know what happened in 2010.
00:11:53.000 2010 is when Republicans won 63 seats and swept in control of the House in the Tea Party wave.
00:12:01.000 So this is now what's being talked about in D.C. is that, ooh, ooh, 2010 was bad.
00:12:06.000 Yeah, okay, we got back in power, but we had all these rabble-rousers. 1.00
00:12:09.000 We had all these fighters.
00:12:10.000 We had people that were talking about impeachment.
00:12:12.000 Like, we have to keep business as usual.
00:12:16.000 The energy is there.
00:12:17.000 The people are ready to show up in big numbers.
00:12:22.000 The people are ready to excommunicate the Uniparty from what they've been doing in Washington, D.C. If MAGA does not win this year, the establishment can then do the following. 0.99
00:12:36.000 They can make the case that Trump should not run in 2024.
00:12:41.000 The Republican leadership has far more power now as being a minority leader than they would being a majority leader with an unruly America first caucus.
00:12:55.000 They're more powerful if they do not have the dissenters, if they do not have the people that are willing to speak out against the neoliberal agenda.
00:13:07.000 Now, 2010 was a mess because the Republican establishment, it wasn't a mess, it was a mess for them, but it was a little disorganized because they didn't really know what was happening.
00:13:15.000 There was not a populist uprising like 2010 since the Reagan election of 1980.
00:13:21.000 It was 30 years apart where people started to come out of the rivers and they came out of the lakes and Donald Trump replicated that in 2016.
00:13:29.000 D.C. does not like that.
00:13:31.000 They get nervous.
00:13:33.000 They don't know how to handle you when you show up in big numbers.
00:13:38.000 They would rather have moderate, vanilla, boring type messages to win over suburban voters while they rob the country blind and nothing actually gets fixed.
00:13:51.000 They don't want a redux of this.
00:13:54.000 Believe it or not, it's Mike Pence in this clip who is part of the Tea Party movement.
00:13:59.000 It's interesting how times have changed.
00:14:00.000 Play cut 111.
00:14:09.000 Welcome back to Washington, D.C., freedom fighters.
00:14:23.000 They don't like any of that.
00:14:25.000 Those are people coming out of the woodwork.
00:14:29.000 That was one of the many Tea Party movements.
00:14:31.000 They don't like this energy.
00:14:33.000 Remember this?
00:14:33.000 Rick Santelli.
00:14:35.000 This is the populist anger that we're experiencing times 10.
00:14:38.000 We are 10 times angrier than this.
00:14:41.000 Yet this starts to get very hard to manage.
00:14:47.000 If you were the Republican establishment and all you really cared about was neoliberalism and propping up Zelensky and pandering to corporate donors, this type of energy, it's not exactly ideal.
00:15:01.000 Play cut 112.
00:15:05.000 This is America.
00:15:06.000 How many of you people want to pay for your neighbor's mortgage that has an extra bathroom and can't pay your bills?
00:15:12.000 Raise their hand.
00:15:17.000 That started the Tea Party movement.
00:15:19.000 It was organic.
00:15:19.000 It came out of nowhere, and they couldn't control it.
00:15:23.000 And the Tea Party movement, they look back at 2010.
00:15:26.000 You must understand this.
00:15:27.000 The Republican establishment looks back at 2010 as the time they lost business as usual.
00:15:32.000 There's nothing about it that they enjoyed.
00:15:34.000 Trump played off the Tea Party movement in 2016.
00:15:38.000 They hated that.
00:15:39.000 And now they are so worried that the year of 2022 might be a reckoning against all of them, that they might have a caucus of five, six, seven senators that might stand in opposition.
00:15:51.000 And it won't just be Mike Lee or Rand Paul or Hawley, but there might be nine of them.
00:15:57.000 Whoa, Sit down, citizen, and go back to being a subject.
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00:17:15.000 Someone emailed us here.
00:17:17.000 Very true.
00:17:18.000 He says the deplorables, Trump supporters, are today's Tea Party movement.
00:17:21.000 The Tea Party never died.
00:17:23.000 It got snubbed by the Ryan Romney type of establishment and hibernated.
00:17:27.000 Trump brought us out of hibernation.
00:17:29.000 What a great use of language.
00:17:30.000 We have the best listeners.
00:17:31.000 Thank you.
00:17:32.000 Freedom at CharlieKirk.com.
00:17:34.000 So, what kind of started this whole firestorm?
00:17:36.000 Well, first of all, I've been, I have a tendency just to kind of go back into the archives and listen to the great Rush Limbaugh.
00:17:42.000 And I was just thinking, what would Rush be saying right now?
00:17:45.000 Rush would be exactly on top of this.
00:17:47.000 In my personal opinion, someone who's listened to thousands of hours of Rush, he would be warning you that the establishment does not want the America First MAGA movement to be able to be successful because they can't be controlled.
00:17:57.000 But kind of what would Rush say aside, of which I can do my best to guess, let's just play right into this.
00:18:04.000 What is McConnell himself saying?
00:18:07.000 The leader, the leader of the Senate, says that there is a greater likelihood the House flips than the Senate.
00:18:14.000 Play cut 95.
00:18:16.000 I think there's probably a greater likelihood the House flips than the Senate.
00:18:24.000 Candidate quality has a lot to do with the outcome.
00:18:28.000 Right now, we have a 50-50 Senate in a 50-50 country.
00:18:32.000 But I think when all is said and done this fall, we're likely to have an extremely close Senate, either our side up slightly or their side up slightly.
00:18:41.000 Boy, I totally disagree.
00:18:43.000 We do not have a 50-50 country.
00:18:46.000 You're right.
00:18:46.000 We do have a 50-50 Senate.
00:18:48.000 We do not have a 50-50 country.
00:18:50.000 The country is not 50-50 on the chemical castration of children.
00:18:54.000 The country's not 50-50 on manageable inflation rates.
00:18:58.000 The country's not 50-50 on 87,000 new IRS agents.
00:19:02.000 The country's not 50-50 on critical race theory in our schools.
00:19:06.000 The country is not 50-50 on whether America is a decent, beautiful, generous republic worth defending.
00:19:15.000 That is not a 50-50 country.
00:19:17.000 In D.C., it might be 50-50.
00:19:20.000 In D.C., you mean you can only get to 50 votes of what kind of crony deals you have to cut.
00:19:25.000 The U.S. Senate is not a reflection of the country.
00:19:30.000 It hasn't been for a long time since the repealing of the 17th Amendment of the direct election of senators.
00:19:36.000 It has not been a reflection of where the country is for a very long period of time.
00:19:42.000 The Senate is 50-50, but we are not living in a 50-50 country.
00:19:45.000 That is a false propaganda talking point being put forth by the Uni Party.
00:19:50.000 The country is very divided.
00:19:52.000 Okay, we might be divided at the top level.
00:19:54.000 I'm telling you, you go talk to the muscular class, the average everyday parent, the plumber, the electrician, and you cast aside their opinions of what they think the Republican Party is, or what they think conservatism is, or what they think Donald Trump is.
00:20:13.000 The country is a 70% center-right country.
00:20:16.000 And I think we are a 60% hard-right country, especially when it comes down to the issues of children.
00:20:22.000 When is the last time you heard a U.S. Senate leader say it's going to be the position of the Republicans in the Senate to say that our children are off limits?
00:20:32.000 This is a massive issue.
00:20:34.000 And again, I say this to candidates, and God bless Blake Masters and JD Vance, they get it and they're talking about it.
00:20:39.000 Maybe that's why they've been abandoned by the Republican establishment.
00:20:44.000 Why would they talk about these issues?
00:20:46.000 Because the Uniparty is funded by the very corporations that are benefiting from the psychiatric prescription of drugs to children, Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Moderna, Johnson Johnson.
00:20:58.000 Who do you think is pushing forward the transgender drugs, the chemical castration drugs, the very companies that fund the Uniparty? 0.96
00:21:08.000 You go back to look at 2010, that kind of energy in a bottle is something that they're going to do.
00:21:15.000 They're going to go to great lengths to avoid.
00:21:19.000 They remember this.
00:21:20.000 McConnell was there for this, and they don't want it again.
00:21:23.000 They don't want another 2016 because 2020 could be step one of an America First movement taking over the entire Republican Party in 2024. 0.68
00:21:32.000 They want to kill it in the crib.
00:21:35.000 Hate to be so graphic, I'm sorry, but it's what they try to do. 0.99
00:21:39.000 They want to kill it early.
00:21:41.000 Let's go back to the Tea Party movement, which many of you lived through.
00:21:44.000 This kind of energy, this kind of enthusiasm, ooh, it makes them anxious.
00:21:49.000 I can't control it.
00:21:50.000 I don't know if Zelensky will get his money.
00:21:52.000 Play cut 113.
00:21:54.000 In fact, what makes the so-called Tea Party movement so significant is that it isn't driven by any one personality or issue.
00:22:01.000 There's no list of members or chapters.
00:22:04.000 Best guess is that several hundred thousand participated in one or more of the protests last year.
00:22:09.000 There's no one office or figure who speaks for the movement.
00:22:12.000 There's not any definite ideology to people in the Tea Party.
00:22:16.000 They really run the government.
00:22:18.000 There's no ideology.
00:22:20.000 There is no set of principles.
00:22:23.000 There's no leader.
00:22:24.000 Why is that a threat?
00:22:27.000 The Tea Party movement was an attitude.
00:22:30.000 So was MAGA in 16.
00:22:32.000 What is the attitude?
00:22:33.000 We're in charge.
00:22:34.000 We're restoring consent to the governed.
00:22:35.000 We have a beautiful country.
00:22:36.000 I don't like you. 0.99
00:22:37.000 In fact, I hate you, whoever you are, person on TV. 0.99
00:22:40.000 Not him, actually, that was Congressman King. 0.90
00:22:42.000 It was actually okay.
00:22:42.000 But the point is that I don't like any of you running the country.
00:22:46.000 And the Tea Party did metamorphosize into MAGA, but the Republican establishment is so afraid of you that they very well might be willing to lose a once-in-a-generation opportunity because that will make them less powerful.
00:23:09.000 Stephen Miller builds this out.
00:23:12.000 Cut 109 on the great Tucker Carlsons program, Play Cut 109.
00:23:15.000 No, what he wants to do is handpick candidates that he thinks will like Mitch and Mitch will like them.
00:23:21.000 And that means we have 48 seats or we have 49 seats, so be it.
00:23:24.000 He gets to stay on as majority leader.
00:23:27.000 We are witnessing in real time the greatest self-inflicted wound we have ever seen.
00:23:34.000 The greatest self-inflicted wound we have ever seen.
00:23:38.000 That is beautifully put.
00:23:39.000 If we had a Republican Party that was willing to message and unify, talk directly to voters, support the good candidates, we would be up in every single poll.
00:23:48.000 Now, mind you, I think the House of Representatives will still go Republican.
00:23:52.000 I don't think they will be able to keep that genie in the bottle.
00:23:55.000 The generic looks good there.
00:23:56.000 There have been some fabulous candidates.
00:23:58.000 You see, here's the difference between the Senate and the House.
00:24:01.000 It's very important to understand this.
00:24:02.000 It took me years to understand this.
00:24:04.000 It took me years.
00:24:05.000 And I've been doing this for only about 10 or 12 years, but around year five or six, I was like, oh, wow, fundamental difference between the House and the Senate.
00:24:12.000 Just by volume, the House is so much harder to be able to do the crony deals.
00:24:20.000 It's not impossible.
00:24:21.000 But just by sheer amount of people and how these districts are hyperlocal, what's a district?
00:24:28.000 800,000 people, 850,000 people?
00:24:30.000 Something like that?
00:24:30.000 It's 750?
00:24:32.000 So you have districts of 750,000.
00:24:35.000 It is the grassroots.
00:24:36.000 It is the bottom-up.
00:24:37.000 It is harder to play these games and swoop in the money.
00:24:40.000 Now, the establishment tries to do that.
00:24:42.000 And by the way, they're up every two years.
00:24:44.000 So you could have just a random mom like Marjorie Taylor Greene run for office. 1.00
00:24:47.000 And the establishment's like, well, we can't handle that one.
00:24:50.000 Then we got Joe Kent and then we got Sabatini and then we got Ana Paulina. 1.00
00:24:53.000 It can happen in all these different pockets.
00:24:55.000 And these races do not require nearly as much money in the House at all.
00:25:01.000 So for a couple hundred thousand dollars, you could take out Eric Cantor like Dave Brack did.
00:25:05.000 For a couple hundred thousand dollars, Joe Kent can take out Herrera Butler.
00:25:09.000 For a couple hundred thousand dollars, Gibbs can take out Peter Meyer.
00:25:11.000 House races are legitimately local referendums.
00:25:16.000 You meet them, you shake their hands, you look them in the eye, you could flip races very, quickly.
00:25:21.000 The Senate is totally different.
00:25:24.000 The Senate, you're talking about multi-million dollar media markets.
00:25:28.000 And so therefore, one of the Republican establishment strategies is go recruit a bunch of self-funding candidates that can put in a lot of money early into the race to try to get it out.
00:25:40.000 So for example, the Arizona Republican primary was a $40 million race, if you count all super PACs, $40 million.
00:25:50.000 Whereas a local Arizona congressional race would be maybe a million to $2 million at the top level.
00:25:56.000 So because of that, the U.S. Senate has less people, 100, and there's only 50 Republican senators.
00:26:03.000 And out of those, only about 15 of them are in competitive races.
00:26:06.000 And only about five of them, the national leadership really focuses on.
00:26:10.000 So you look at just volume.
00:26:12.000 The U.S. Senate has less, therefore their money can go farther.
00:26:16.000 The media markets are more expensive.
00:26:18.000 So candidates that don't have as much money or can't raise money, they kind of self-select out and go run for the House.
00:26:24.000 And by definition, then you get a lot of other incumbents that probably aren't very good running for those Senate races.
00:26:29.000 So the House is this rambunctious circus.
00:26:32.000 Good.
00:26:32.000 We love that.
00:26:33.000 That's why the House is probably going to go Republican.
00:26:35.000 The Senate is still controlled, top-down, very procedural.
00:26:40.000 We do things the way the Senate does.
00:26:42.000 The House can kind of be this totally uncontrolled group.
00:26:46.000 I love that, and you should too.
00:26:48.000 But the Senate, the Senate ever becoming a populist body would be the greatest threat to the American Uniparty and to the left.
00:26:55.000 I'm telling you, the moment the Senate turns all of a sudden and starts representing voters, Republicans would win 65 Senate seats.
00:27:04.000 But that's a big threat.
00:27:06.000 You don't get to have procedural control.
00:27:08.000 Winning means governing, governing.
00:27:11.000 That means you can't complain all the time.
00:27:15.000 So I want to be very clear.
00:27:16.000 I'm still very bullish on the U.S. House of Representatives.
00:27:19.000 It's too local.
00:27:19.000 They won't be able to control it.
00:27:21.000 We have great candidates.
00:27:22.000 They're working their tail off.
00:27:23.000 By the way, in House races, effort can overcome money.
00:27:29.000 In Senate races, effort can make a difference, but it's very hard to overcome a massive funding gap.
00:27:35.000 I'll give you an example.
00:27:36.000 If you're running for the Senate in Arizona and Mark Kelly has $38 million and you have $2 million, that's a very hard obstacle to overcome.
00:27:45.000 Extremely difficult.
00:27:48.000 And so it's not just conceivable.
00:27:49.000 It seems as if more and more likely that the Republican establishment in the Senate, especially, is saying, boy, we don't want to play into this populist energy.
00:28:00.000 It might make Donald Trump stronger.
00:28:02.000 They don't like Trump.
00:28:04.000 We might make this movement that we have contempt for more resilient and give them more power.
00:28:11.000 We are going to just allow this movement to die on the vine.
00:28:17.000 We're going to starve it of oxygen.
00:28:19.000 We're going to starve it of resources.
00:28:21.000 It won't be able to survive by itself.
00:28:24.000 Charlie, what can we do about it?
00:28:25.000 Okay, the Republican establishment doesn't want these candidates to win.
00:28:31.000 What can we do?
00:28:32.000 The answer is actually quite a lot because we are onto their game now.
00:28:37.000 We learned the lesson in 16.
00:28:38.000 They learned the lesson in 16 and in 10, which is when people show up in big numbers with strong messages, grassroots candidates focused on things that actually matter to citizens, things get a little out of control.
00:28:50.000 And by the way, when they get out of control, that's a very good thing because they're out of control for the Unit Party.
00:28:54.000 But you know what it means when all of a sudden Washington, D.C. says things are out of control?
00:29:00.000 It means the people are in control.
00:29:03.000 When D.C. says things have gotten out of control, that means you've reassumed control of your government.
00:29:09.000 And they hate that.
00:29:12.000 And this is a major opportunity, everybody, and we can do something about it.
00:29:16.000 So here's the good news is that it is August 19th.
00:29:20.000 Great.
00:29:21.000 That means we have time to say, okay, the establishment will be comfortable losing minorly with their kind of crony Chamber of Commerce corporatist candidates.
00:29:33.000 So what are we going to do about it?
00:29:35.000 Well, this is now where we have to organize, recognize it, admit it, come together with a battle plan.
00:29:41.000 And we have a secret weapon.
00:29:46.000 We have one thing that we did not have in the 2010 Tea Party movement.
00:29:51.000 And it can be a massive and a major game changer.
00:29:59.000 We have Donald Trump.
00:30:01.000 We have a leader that can raise a ton of money.
00:30:04.000 Donald Trump has $100 million in his super PAC that can be deployed to help some of these candidates, and I believe will be deployed.
00:30:11.000 We could do rallies and get 25,000 people at a moment's notice in Pennsylvania or in Arizona.
00:30:16.000 And what needs to happen, though, is there needs to be a recognition and a difference and a splintering between the asset allocation and the strategy of the Republican establishment and of legitimate grassroots candidates that are going to represent voters and represent our citizens.
00:30:33.000 Tucker Carlson seems to agree, play cut 102.
00:30:37.000 It's entirely possible Mitch McConnell doesn't want to retake the Senate because then you'd have to run things.
00:30:42.000 And there's one thing Republican leaders dislike.
00:30:44.000 It's running anything.
00:30:45.000 Much easier to complain on Fox News.
00:30:48.000 Now, we must remember back to what Adam Kinzinger said earlier this week with the rejection of Liz Cheney.
00:30:53.000 He said something that is totally true.
00:30:56.000 He said, this is not your dad's Republican Party anymore.
00:31:00.000 You see, if they are able to show the MAGA movement does not do well in the midterms, they will then be able to gallivan around the country and say, I told you so.
00:31:12.000 Can't nominate candidates like this.
00:31:14.000 They did this in 2012, by the way, with Todd Aiken and Murdoch running in Missouri and Indiana that both said some foolish stuff about abortion that they should not have said.
00:31:24.000 But it was also just taken, not out of context. 0.98
00:31:27.000 That's not totally fair because it was just dumb. 0.96
00:31:29.000 But they blew it out of proportion. 0.90
00:31:31.000 They made it the unnecessary focus of the 2012 election of Todd Aiken and Murdoch in Missouri and Indiana.
00:31:38.000 Two Senate seats we should have won.
00:31:40.000 And we ended up re-winning them both with Mike Braun and with Josh Hawley.
00:31:45.000 But what happened in 12, 13, 14, and this is why the 2014 midterm election was not as triumphant as people thought.
00:31:53.000 We won back the Senate, but it was very much a mechanical and a technical win.
00:31:58.000 It wasn't a triumph.
00:31:59.000 Adam Kinzinger says that this is no longer your dad's Republican Party, meaning we no longer are able just to have candidates that agree with our endless wars and open borders and corporate deals.
00:32:11.000 Play cut 72.
00:32:13.000 But the bottom line is, I think this is sending a very strong message that this isn't your dad's Republican Party anymore.
00:32:19.000 This isn't a party that's committed to truth.
00:32:21.000 This is a party that's committed to conspiracy.
00:32:24.000 Mark and your prior guest had said something about, you know, people in Congress now don't really believe it.
00:32:30.000 I don't think they do believe the big lie and the conspiracies.
00:32:33.000 What I worry about is the next generation of people that have just been elected, they're going to be here next year.
00:32:38.000 They do believe these conspiracies.
00:32:40.000 That's very frightening.
00:32:41.000 Yeah, conspiracies. 0.99
00:32:43.000 It's such a ridiculous thing to say. 0.88
00:32:44.000 What he's saying is that they actually listen to their voters. 0.91
00:32:47.000 What is considered consent of the governed, Adam Kinzinger calls a conspiracy?
00:32:51.000 So what do we do about this?
00:32:53.000 We got to recognize it.
00:32:54.000 We got to admit it.
00:32:54.000 We got to repeat it.
00:32:55.000 We got to get our candidates to advertise it.
00:32:57.000 If you could support these candidates, great.
00:32:59.000 If you can't, that's okay too.
00:33:00.000 If you can support these candidates, phenomenal.
00:33:02.000 If you cannot, I totally understand.
00:33:04.000 Maybe dedicate some of your time, some of your energy, knock on doors, become a volunteer.
00:33:09.000 All these things matter.
00:33:10.000 We're going to be doing that at turning point action.
00:33:12.000 But it is a broader question.
00:33:13.000 And this is something that we have to have no mystery about.
00:33:17.000 We have to have no, let's just say, no delusions of grandeur as if, oh, yeah, the Republican Party is all on the same page.
00:33:26.000 No, there are two simultaneous things at odds happening right now.
00:33:30.000 One that is MAGA candidates that are trying their best to get across the finish line.
00:33:34.000 And the other one is a, we want to lose by less, still be in control, tell you I told you so, protect our corporate donors, and be in power endlessly and relentlessly.
00:33:47.000 Only one of those can win.
00:33:48.000 So what do we have to do?
00:33:50.000 We have to show up in such massive numbers, get people to show up, support the good candidates where we can and how we can.
00:33:57.000 And then Donald Trump has to come in and get this across the finish line.
00:34:00.000 But don't expect the Republican establishment to bail us out at this period of time.
00:34:05.000 It is my personal opinion that they're getting comfortable in their position of, well, we might not win, but at least we're still in power.
00:34:18.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:34:20.000 Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:34:22.000 Thanks so much.
00:34:23.000 Talk to you soon.
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