Peter Schweitzer is the No. 1 investigative researcher in all the world, and certainly in conservative media. He goes through how China and Ukraine are actually connected, and why this will make Trump's foreign policy make a lot more sense. Then he evaluates his take on Doge and why all the cutting is necessary, and how it's all really about elections. We explore a brilliant theory that Peter has that we explore before I do a preview straight from the White House of President Trump's speech to the Joint Session of Congress.
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00:00:05.000Peter Schweitzer is here, the number one investigative researcher, I think, in all the world, certainly in conservative media.
00:00:11.000We go through how China and Ukraine are actually connected and why this will make Trump's foreign policy make a lot more sense.
00:00:18.000Then he evaluates his take on Doge and why all the cutting is necessary and how it's all really about elections, a brilliant theory that Peter has that we explore.
00:00:42.000And then I explain how I think the Democrats have a huge leadership crisis as evidenced by the fact that Andrew Cuomo, yes, that Andrew Cuomo, is running for mayor of New York City and is quite likely to win.
00:00:54.000So all that, plus a bunch more exciting stuff today.
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00:02:34.000The sort of State of the Union is tonight.
00:02:36.000They don't call it the State of the Union for some reason.
00:02:39.000On the first, I guess the president doesn't have a great sense of the State of the Union yet, is the lore, the history of it after the first 50 or so days of his administration.
00:02:48.000So we call it the State of the Union the other three years out of four.
00:03:59.000All this is about that they've allowed their countries to get overrun with Chinese fentanyl and they've allowed Chinese police stations, other things like that at various points.
00:04:09.000I think the icing out of Ukraine in that negotiation in Saudi Arabia and only including Russia, that was all about trying to pull Russia away from the Sinosphere and to the United States.
00:04:33.000And look, what you're seeing with Trump is the arrival of something we haven't seen since really the 1980s with Reagan, which is a grand strategy.
00:04:41.000Looking at the road, looking at the map around the world and tracing what the challenges, what the threats are and what the opportunities are for the United States.
00:04:52.000And we are essentially in a bipolar world now where it's China and the United States.
00:04:56.000So each one of those issues you talked about, you're quite right.
00:05:15.000But the fact that we have aggressively gone after Russia and essentially adopted the position that we're not going to have any negotiations has pushed Russia into the corner with China, which is actually not a natural fit.
00:05:33.000But it's put Putin in this role of having to rely increasingly on China.
00:05:37.000If we are able to actually come up with a just peace agreement with Ukraine that moves Russia's isolation and dependence on China, that is a huge, huge win for the United States and a huge loss for China.
00:05:52.000So I think what's happening is very exciting.
00:05:55.000We'll see how successful these initiatives are.
00:06:02.000You know, one thing that people might not know about Peter is that he first got connected with us at Breitbart when he was our editor of Big Peace, which was Andrew Breitbart's first national security foreign policy blog that he started.
00:06:13.000So Peter's got expertise in this way as well.
00:06:16.000And again, personal biases aside, Peter, what do you make of Zelensky's sort of meltdown in the Oval Office where he was vaguely threatening us and then the mineral deal, which was as good as signed, apparently, just didn't end up getting signed.
00:06:34.000He didn't really apologize for anything.
00:06:35.000He sort of doubled down in a lot of ways.
00:06:38.000All this, I don't fully have my mind around what's going on.
00:06:41.000From your perspective, what do you think is really happening?
00:06:44.000Well, I think Zelensky went into the Oval Office and was supposed to sign an agreement.
00:06:49.000All sides expected that was going to happen.
00:06:52.000And Zelensky started to make a moral argument.
00:06:55.000In the middle of the consummation of a deal.
00:06:58.000And I understand the moral argument he's making.
00:07:01.000But the fact of the matter is that Ukraine can't win this war.
00:07:07.000You know, Russia, the estimates are Russia's suffered up to 900,000 casualties, which for the United States, that would be like close to 2 million people, an extraordinary number.
00:07:18.000But Ukraine's numbers are just as bad, if not worse, in proportion to the population size.
00:07:23.000They're, you know, a third or a quarter the size of Russia.
00:07:26.000So as the war grinds out, they are not going to be able to win this war.
00:07:32.000So you've got to think about what's the best deal that we can get.
00:07:37.000And Zelensky's of the mindset that he doesn't want a deal.
00:07:40.000So he's trying to make a moral argument.
00:07:44.000So I think it was a big mistake on his part.
00:07:47.000And, you know, Europe is not really willing to back him.
00:07:51.000The Guardian had a really interesting survey that they put out yesterday where they asked all these European countries, people, you know, do you think that Ukraine needs more financial and military support vis-a-vis Russia?
00:08:05.000And majorities in every single country say absolutely yes.
00:08:09.000Then the second question is, would you like your country to give more to the Ukrainian cause?
00:08:51.000I don't get it because that was not what Trump cares about at all.
00:08:55.000Trump wants to bring this thing to a close.
00:08:56.000He doesn't care about really who started it.
00:08:58.000Yeah, Putin started it, but Putin started it because Joe Biden's weakness.
00:09:01.000I have a whole chapter on this in my book, Breaking Biden, explaining this.
00:09:05.000And a lot of it was that the Biden administration for years and prior to that, Obama had had these overtures in Ukraine that they could one day join NATO.
00:09:13.000This is a total nonstarter with the American people and anyone who I think wants to avoid nuclear war.
00:09:18.000What did you make of Zelensky's repetition that he needs security guarantees?
00:10:26.000If they want to sermonize and say this is important, they should provide security guarantees.
00:10:30.000The British, French militaries, and the Germans could absolutely do it.
00:10:34.000And the minerals deal, the genius in my mind of the minerals deal, is not just that it benefits the United States strategically in getting the minerals, but it does wed us to Ukraine.
00:10:43.000We now have something of value for us that gives us an interest long after Donald Trump leaves the Oval Office, who's ever president.
00:10:52.000It's going to be concerned about making sure that our mineral interests in Ukraine, so it weds us to them without offering an absolute military guarantee.
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00:12:22.000Peter Schweitzer is with me, president of the Government Accountability Institute, senior contributor to Breitbart News, multiple-time New York Times number one bestselling author and host of the Drill Down podcast, which I absolutely love.
00:13:20.000But there's also, I think, a deeper element here, Alex.
00:13:23.000I mean, we talk about the waste and the abuse.
00:13:28.000Which are, of course, huge components of this, you know, transgenders in Guatemala, you know, ridiculous expenditures here.
00:13:35.000But there's a deeper battle that's going on here because a lot of this money that flows through these grants and through these contracts are to the political class in Washington, D.C. It's a business model.
00:13:47.000You look at USAID and some of these government agencies.
00:13:51.000Huge amounts of the contract money actually never goes to the developing world.
00:13:55.000It stays in the Washington Beltway to consultancies that are run by political operatives that help get people elected.
00:14:03.000So part of the pushback in Washington, D.C. is, I think, from the fact that Wait a minute.
00:14:08.000This slush fund that we operated for all these years is being shut down or is being exposed.
00:14:38.000And this is why I'm completely obsessed with the Stacey Abrams NGO that started with $100 and somehow had $100 in 2023 and somehow got $2 billion in 2024. Peter, I understand how this isn't just a monumental, earth-changing scandal.
00:14:54.000It feels like the sort of thing that if Andrew Breitbart was alive, he would have spent every day for 90 days just talking about this and only this until everyone got the picture.
00:15:03.000And I feel like we just moved on from it.
00:15:06.000Lee Zeldin, who's the EPA administrator, about it, because I guess it went through the EPA for this environmental fund, about this on my Alex Marlowe show yesterday.
00:15:14.000And he told me he's working with the FBI and the DOJ to investigate.
00:15:18.000But, I mean, who knows if we're going to get to the bottom of this.
00:15:21.000Did that one jump out at you as a bad one?
00:15:23.000Were there any lowlights for you thus far that Doge has uncovered?
00:15:26.000Yeah, no, I mean, I think that's a bad one.
00:15:28.000But here's the challenge we face, right?
00:15:30.000I mean, and this is how bad Washington, D.C. is.
00:15:33.000If you give a $2 billion government grant to an organization that had $1,000 that was just started up a couple of months before, that actually may not be illegal.
00:15:45.000That's the shocking thing, and that's the problem.
00:15:48.000So if we're looking for Stacey Abrams to go to jail over this, it's probably not going to happen because they know how these games are played, and there was probably technically no law that was violated.
00:15:58.000But what you're seeing is what I call legal graft.
00:16:02.000It's like the old Tammany Hall corruption.
00:16:14.000And that's why it needs to be prevented from happening.
00:16:17.000So exposure and embarrassment is great.
00:16:20.000And we need to find out who the decision makers are and make sure they can't do it again.
00:16:24.000But we should probably not expect anybody to go to jail because it's probably not illegal.
00:16:28.000Remember, the people doing this are the people that write their own rules.
00:16:32.000So they're going to know what the rules are and they're going to avoid doing something illegal.
00:16:36.000Peter, this is such an important point that you made also, that I think this money is going to those AstroTurf town halls that we're seeing popping up.
00:16:52.000I mean, you see that in the government grants.
00:16:54.000You also see that in the Department of Justice.
00:16:56.000You know, they will go after Morgan Stanley and say that, you know, you violated these laws.
00:17:01.000And then they will negotiate a settlement for $300 million.
00:17:04.000And we all think, OK, Morgan Stanley is now sending $300 million to the U.S. Treasury.
00:17:10.000No, the Department of Justice under the Biden administration, under the Obama administration, says, well, make a donation to these nonprofit organizations to rectify.
00:17:21.000But these are activist groups that are being funded in this way.
00:17:25.000So you have this large infrastructure of entities and organizations.
00:17:29.000There's one called the International Democratic Institute that we're looking at that got $180 million in grants from the federal government.
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00:18:52.000Today is a big day because it's the sort of State of the Union.
00:18:56.000And the White House has sent me some highlights of what we're anticipating.
00:19:00.000We're not going to bigfoot Trump here.
00:19:03.000So these are going to be roughly what we're looking at.
00:19:06.000But the theme of the speech is the renewal of the American dream.
00:19:09.000There's breaking news here on The Charlie Kirk Show.
00:19:12.000Four main parts of the speech can be broken out into four parts as far as we know.
00:19:16.000Trump is going to review his accomplishments from his first months, and I've got a long list of what those are, and a lot of them are going to be border-related.
00:19:22.000A lot of them are going to be things like hospitals not giving out puberty blockers, banning men from women's sports.
00:19:30.000It is still mind-blowing to me, and I know Charlie's, of course, been on this as much as anyone, but the idea that the Democrats' ideal is when all three podium spots and girls' tracker events go to men.
00:20:25.000The reason why they will not applaud at this point is because they want your taxes to go up because they feel like Trump will ultimately get blamed if that causes more problems for you and your family.
00:20:37.000Trump is going to push Congress to pass more funding for deportations and continue to build the wall.
00:20:42.000This is one report that I have heard from some of my sources that the deportations are somewhat underfunded at this point, which makes a lot of sense, because if you think about how aggressive Tom Homan has been and Stephen Miller have been getting out there, doing interviews, Kristi Noem with her cool outfits, I always like her outfits, always looking great.
00:21:01.000What she's doing is she's sending a signal to people, stop coming, please don't come anymore, because that Deterrence is the cheapest way to do border enforcement.
00:23:44.000This is the whole issue that I think the establishment Republicans have a religious belief in tariffs.
00:23:51.000Despite how bad NAFTA was and Trump basically redid it with the USMCA, we need to reset global trade.
00:23:56.000It has not worked out well for America.
00:23:58.000Part of the reason J.D. Vance is vice president is because of NAFTA, which was both establishments, especially Republicans.
00:24:07.000Put this trade in place, this trade scheme, which basically outsourced American manufacturing around the world, and it gutted towns like the one Vance grew up in.
00:26:10.000Trump has the Democrats completely in knots.
00:26:13.000You watch them all weekend say that Trump is the biggest threat to democracy because he's not giving enough money to Ukraine, which is run by a dictator.
00:27:20.000So the Democrats going all in for Zelensky all the time, where you saw them openly rooting against the United States and for Zelensky last week after he completely wet his pants during that Oval Office meeting with Vance and Trump.
00:27:33.000Where he's threatening us wildly, doing all sorts of things to blow up deals that we were told were already done.
00:27:39.000And if people came out on his side, just know that you're on the side of a dictator over a guy who just got elected by every single swing state, the plurality of the popular vote, and a huge electoral mandate.
00:27:52.000And they're countering it with xenophobia.
00:27:54.000We're going to send Musk back to South Africa.
00:27:57.000If I had said something like that, it would be nonstop.
00:28:00.000Be the lead story of the Huffington Post.
00:28:01.000Go back to if Charlie said something like that.
00:28:03.000Imagine the New York Times hand-wringing that would be going on.
00:28:07.000Xenophobia coming from the turning point and a Charlie Kirk show host.
00:28:14.000And this is where I get very excited because I don't think that they're able to counter us in an effective way.
00:28:20.000I got to say, the Trump cause is number one.
00:28:21.000I love how Musk is eating the whole time, and he's also very svelte.
00:28:24.000The AI made Trump the same weight, but Musk lost a bunch of weight, but he's still eating the whole time.
00:28:29.000They don't know how to handle Trump because they can't announce he's a dictator anymore.
00:28:34.000And so what they are trying to do is they're trying to act like Musk is really the president, but Musk is also illegitimate.
00:28:40.000And so Musk has no authority, but he also has taken over the presidency, which is odd because Trump was the bad guy for so long, and he was installed by Russia, and he's a Putin puppet.
00:28:51.000And it adds to this sort of muddled messaging that is incoherent.
00:28:56.000That probably explains why in the first hour of the show I played how all the Democrats are saying exactly the same talking points today.
00:29:03.00020-plus Democrats all cut the exact same ad with the exact same script to message against Trump and Musk.
00:29:10.000Look, it's a tough day if you're in the opposition party right now.
00:29:13.000It is a tough day when you've got the president who is riding high, is plus nine in some of the polls, approval rating, highest he's ever been.
00:29:21.000And then he gets a State of the Union where he's going to speak to tens of millions of Americans directly.
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00:31:06.000So one of the Democrats' main tactics that they like to use, and the whole left in general, is they use projection, where they say exactly what they're doing and they accuse their opponents of doing that.
00:31:16.000That was the nature of the Russian collusion hoax.
00:31:19.000This is where it came from initially, is that Hillary Clinton's, one of her main weaknesses was Russia, because her State Department had allowed for the sale of our uranium to Russia via...
00:31:33.000Some of the reporting that Peter Schweitzer came up with, that we've a lot of with Broca Breitbart News, which is very cool, that we had this.
00:32:22.000Backing Vladimir Zelensky and not caring at all that he's completely suspended elections and that he is behaving like a dictator, a fascist dictator, if you include the strange uniform, the Al Sharpton suit that he wears.
00:32:35.000So all that stuff shows you that they're accusing us of what they're doing.
00:32:39.000Remember, Trump sold weapons to Ukraine proactively.
00:32:43.000Biden didn't sell Ukraine weapons until there was an invasion by Putin.
00:36:53.000Well, it's a different definition of a mandate, I guess.
00:36:55.000But the problem is that if you're the Democratic Party and you lost 49.8% to 48.3% and you're looking at that 1.5% dip, that's an excuse for you to say, what we did really wasn't that bad.
00:37:17.000But what I think is most interesting here in what's not being said and is a theme to a lot of the content we've talked about today is the left does not have any sort of leadership.
00:37:26.000New York City obviously not producing leaders, because if you've got Cuomo coming back in there, if you've got all of these inauthentic, pathetic, old, old, old Democrats cutting the same exact ad, who's the leadership?
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