The Charlie Kirk Show - Donald Trump's Economic Miracle

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00:01:28.000 And joining us now is great American and great friend and fellow Salem host, Dinesh D'Souza, who is behind, the powerhouse behind the new movie, Vindicating Trump.

00:01:38.000 Dinesh, welcome to the program.

00:01:40.000 Charlie, guys, it's a pleasure.

00:01:41.000 Thanks for having me.

00:01:43.000 Thank you.

00:01:43.000 Dinesh, tell us about your film.

00:01:44.000 We can play the trailer as well, but I want to give you the opportunity first to introduce it and to lay the foundation.

00:01:50.000 Well, the film makes the case for Trump.

00:01:54.000 Trump is an interesting fellow.

00:01:55.000 He's different than Reagan, who would... Reagan would make the case for himself.

00:02:00.000 Here are seven reasons to vote for me.

00:02:02.000 With Trump, he puts himself on exhibit, but he doesn't lay out the argument.

00:02:07.000 And that's what this film does, and there's an accompanying book of the same title.

00:02:11.000 The centerpiece of the film is a one-on-one with Trump And what I try to do in that, Charlie, is I try to bring out the private dimension of Trump that I think he has a manly resistance to showing on the public stage, to show the tumblers of his mind working, to show, in a sense, some of the ways that he feels about things.

00:02:34.000 So all of this is in the film, along with my staple, you know, cinematic recreations, I, of course, tell the story of Trump.

00:02:43.000 I try to get to the bottom of why the left is so terrified of this man and this man alone.

00:02:49.000 Yeah, and Dinesh, before I play the trailer, you've done so many films that have been successful, especially in election years.

00:02:57.000 As you have studied Donald Trump as a person and as a leader, what do you think that even his supporters don't quite grasp about him?

00:03:06.000 I think the thing about Trump that is maybe the most striking is that he has the dimensions of a Caesar.

00:03:17.000 This is really why the left accuses him of being a Caesar, of being a dictator, of wanting to subvert our system.

00:03:24.000 On the one hand, we know that that's unfair because Trump was in office.

00:03:28.000 He didn't do anything dictatorial.

00:03:30.000 Even when the crowd shouted, you know, lock her up, he didn't in fact prosecute her.

00:03:34.000 He didn't actually lock her up.

00:03:36.000 So the charge of dictatorship is false, but And this is a point I make to Trump in my conversation with him, is I say, listen, they keep saying that you called for an insurrection.

00:03:46.000 And I say, as far as I can see, you didn't do that.

00:03:48.000 You didn't tell people to go in the Capitol, take over the place, stop the count.

00:03:52.000 None of that.

00:03:52.000 But, I said, you could have.

00:03:55.000 Had you called for an insurrection on January 6th, there would have been one.

00:04:00.000 And there would be one if you called for one now.

00:04:02.000 So you, as far as I can see, are the only person in America who has that kind of power.

00:04:07.000 I mean, no Republican, certainly not even Kamala Harris, could call for an insurrection.

00:04:10.000 Nobody would show up.

00:04:11.000 Nobody would even take it seriously.

00:04:13.000 So Trump has this larger-than-life dimension.

00:04:17.000 This is why I think the left is so threatened by him.

00:04:21.000 Let's play the trailer here.

00:04:21.000 here, 71 please.

00:04:49.000 You didn't do an insurrection.

00:04:51.000 Had you called for one, there would have been one.

00:04:53.000 And there would be one if you called for one now.

00:04:55.000 I'm not sure I want that power.

00:04:56.000 I want the power just to make the country better.

00:04:58.000 America first!

00:04:59.000 And that scares them.

00:05:00.000 A lot about Donald Trump scares them.

00:05:03.000 Let's look at everything.

00:05:04.000 Campaign, his family.

00:05:05.000 Let's get foreign eyes on him.

00:05:08.000 We have one target.

00:05:09.000 You know who he is.

00:05:10.000 Going after their companies, their families.

00:05:12.000 That is a dictator.

00:05:14.000 It's a very dangerous time for our country.

00:05:15.000 The goal is to put him in jail because they're so afraid of his voice.

00:05:19.000 I am your voice!

00:05:22.000 The barrier is so deep and illegal, it'll bankrupt them.

00:05:25.000 Earl got him in jail right before the election.

00:05:27.000 That's hard for being that guy, but isn't that election interference?

00:05:31.000 It's not interference if we do it.

00:05:33.000 We just want a free and fair election.

00:05:36.000 Sounds expensive.

00:05:37.000 Ballots ain't cheap.

00:05:38.000 Wait, wait, wait.

00:05:39.000 Did you actually say the word, buy the ballots?

00:05:42.000 We were able to purchase 10,000 ballots.

00:05:45.000 That's terrifying.

00:05:46.000 They cheat in many different ways.

00:05:47.000 That's all they're good at.

00:05:49.000 They save democracy.

00:05:50.000 We need to stop him permanently.

00:05:52.000 And that person will be risking his life.

00:05:55.000 Too bad it's not the 60s, right?

00:06:00.000 It's the wing you survived.

00:06:02.000 I said, get me up.

00:06:04.000 Trump has beaten back every attack against him. 1.00

00:06:06.000 It's like the damn tourniquet. 0.99

00:06:08.000 We're going to fix our borders, or we're going to fix our elections. 1.00

00:06:12.000 We're going to win.

00:06:12.000 This is my legacy.

00:06:14.000 Vindicating Trump.

00:06:15.000 The best is yet to come.

00:06:18.000 Dinesh, very powerful trailer there.

00:06:21.000 And so, first, can you just read me into that conversation?

00:06:25.000 Who was talking about buying ballots and you got 10,000 ballots?

00:06:28.000 What was that all about?

00:06:29.000 Charlie, as you know, in 2000 Mules we were looking back at what happened in 2020 and we released that film in the middle of 2022 and you were part of it and you were in it.

00:06:41.000 I start with the premise that the Democrats can't cheat the same way again and again, in part because people know about it.

00:06:47.000 They're going to be looking for it.

00:06:49.000 And so I put myself in the mind of the criminals and I said, what is the biggest vulnerability in our election system now?

00:06:56.000 What is something, what is a new way to cheat that people don't even know about?

00:07:00.000 We hired a couple of investigators and they came to me and said, we know how to make ballots.

00:07:05.000 And I go, you are joking, right?

00:07:07.000 And they're like, no.

00:07:08.000 We know how to get ballot stock.

00:07:10.000 We know how to print the ballots.

00:07:11.000 We can make ballots that will fit in the tabulator machines and be counted.

00:07:15.000 And I said, listen, don't tell me about it.

00:07:17.000 You do it.

00:07:18.000 Show me that you can obtain the ballot paper.

00:07:20.000 Show me that you can put the information on the ballot, create a legitimate ballot.

00:07:24.000 Show me where you're going to get the names to put it on there and the signatures to scrawl.

00:07:29.000 So all of this is laid out in a section of the film called The Ballot Makers.

00:07:34.000 It's maybe the most shocking aspect of this new film, Vindicating Trump.

00:07:37.000 Is there anything being done to prevent ballot making and manufacturing from happening in this election?

00:07:43.000 So I took the information straight to Trump.

00:07:45.000 I took it straight to Laura Trump.

00:07:46.000 They were both kind of blown away and they both basically said, okay, we're going to be on top of this.

00:07:51.000 We've got lots of people to look at it.

00:07:53.000 This is a priority for us.

00:07:55.000 So essentially what I've done is I've done what a film can do.

00:07:58.000 I expose something.

00:08:00.000 I do a handoff to the kind of people who can now do something about it.

00:08:04.000 And it's going to be their job to make sure that I mean, my goal, of course, in exposing this is not to educate cheaters or to show them how to do it.

00:08:11.000 It's to blow their cover so that they can't do it that way.

00:08:14.000 They can't pull off the heist.

00:08:16.000 So in making this film, you also sat down with President Trump.

00:08:19.000 I want to play cut 72 here, which is a little bit of a snippet of your conversation with him.

00:08:23.000 Play cut 72.

00:08:25.000 We were all about democracy, and that's what we're about.

00:08:27.000 And you know, their theme is, oh, Trump will subvert democracy.

00:08:31.000 But they're the ones that are going to subvert democracy.

00:08:34.000 And that's what they're doing all the time.

00:08:35.000 I mean, did you do censorship?

00:08:37.000 No.

00:08:37.000 Did you lock up any leading Democrats?

00:08:39.000 No.

00:08:39.000 I mean, there were people chanting for Hillary to be locked up, but you didn't lock her up.

00:08:49.000 Let's defeat her in November. 1.00

00:08:51.000 With Hillary as an example, I thought it would be a terrible thing, actually.

00:08:54.000 What she did was terrible.

00:08:56.000 What Biden did was terrible.

00:08:58.000 What they all did.

00:08:59.000 But I never would even think of doing that.

00:09:03.000 I could have done it, and we had them dead to right, but wouldn't it be a terrible thing?

00:09:07.000 And yet, now, what they've done is they've opened up a box, a Pandora's box, that is a very dangerous thing.

00:09:15.000 Fendicating Trump.

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00:09:19.000 Tell us more about that conversation, Dinesh.

00:09:22.000 I think the conversation gets to the heart of how you stop a bully from being a bully.

00:09:28.000 The left has been doing this and I think they've been doing it because their aggression is

00:09:34.000 encouraged by our passivity.

00:09:37.000 And there are many Republicans, as you know, who say things like, oh, well, we can't do

00:09:40.000 what they're doing.

00:09:42.000 We can't back the court and we can't use the government to go after our political opponents.

00:09:47.000 And so the left goes, wonderful, we will try to back the court in the full knowledge that when the other guys come in, they love the number nine.

00:09:54.000 So even if we fail, we have no penalty and we can keep trying to do it.

00:09:58.000 So, the question I was raising with Trump is, in a sense, if the dictatorial threat is coming from their side, isn't it true that the only way to stop it is to do to them, or to threaten to do to them, what they have been doing to us?

00:10:14.000 That will be the best deterrent.

00:10:16.000 And that's really the context for that part of the conversation.

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00:11:46.000 Have we seen anything like it in American history?

00:11:49.000 He is, as far as I can see, absolutely unique.

00:11:53.000 And even his reaction to the two assassination attempts, the level of bravery, it's difficult for me to think of anybody alive, but even anybody historically, who would respond in quite that way.

00:12:10.000 I think a good way to sort of understand Trump today is kind of in terms of the old movie westerns.

00:12:17.000 You know, before I came to America, Charlie, I would watch, I was mainly exposed to America through films and mainly war movies and westerns.

00:12:23.000 And if you think about the plot of a western movie, it's kind of what we're living through now.

00:12:27.000 You've got a town and it's going pretty peacefully.

00:12:30.000 It's called, you know, Shinbone or Pleasantville.

00:12:33.000 And there's an old sheriff with a toothbrush mustache and an old rifle.

00:12:36.000 You know, that's like the GOP establishment.

00:12:39.000 But then some ruthless gangsters come in and they shoot up the town.

00:12:42.000 They take it over.

00:12:43.000 They take over the saloon.

00:12:44.000 They take over the provision store.

00:12:46.000 They intimidate everybody.

00:12:48.000 And then the movie takes off when over the mountains comes an outsider, a stranger.

00:12:52.000 Not much is known about him.

00:12:54.000 He seems a little dubious.

00:12:56.000 But nevertheless, the gangsters know right away that he is the one guy that they have to watch out for.

00:13:01.000 He's the one guy who could take him down.

00:13:03.000 And so the plot of the film is there's a showdown. 1.00

00:13:06.000 They try to intimidate him, to run him out of town, to beat him up, to shoot him and kill him. 0.99

00:13:10.000 And I think this is, in a way, Trump. 1.00

00:13:15.000 Trump is the outsider.

00:13:17.000 And even the people of the town are a little ambivalent about him.

00:13:21.000 And that's why today we'll have Republicans who say, well, why can't we go back to the old way of doing things?

00:13:25.000 Shinbone used to be great.

00:13:27.000 They don't realize that Shinbone isn't Shinbone anymore.

00:13:30.000 We're not living in the same country that Reagan gave us at the end of his two terms in office.

00:13:36.000 And so we have to deal with this new threat.

00:13:38.000 And as far as I can see, there's no other Republican, really, who is up to it.

00:13:43.000 Any other Republican facing two criminal charges, let alone 91, would have exited the race, fled the field.

00:13:50.000 Trump, in that sense, is, as they say, sui genre.

00:13:52.000 He's in a league of his own.

00:13:54.000 Truly.

00:13:54.000 And so in making this film, what did you learn, Dinesh, about Trump and about his life that you did not know prior to starting the film?

00:14:03.000 I think it was not so much what I didn't know, but rather this.

00:14:07.000 I really met Trump in 2019, the year after I got my presidential pardon.

00:14:13.000 He didn't know me before.

00:14:14.000 I'd spoken to him once on the phone.

00:14:16.000 But when I saw him in the Oval Office with my family, we saw a kind of dimension of Trump.

00:14:22.000 And my wife and I said to each other, we never see that in the public arena.

00:14:26.000 Trump has a kind of manly aversion to showing his feelings and showing vulnerability.

00:14:31.000 But I said, if that part of Trump could be more seen by people, it would round out the picture and it would also endear people to him a lot more.

00:14:39.000 And so my goal in this conversation with Trump was not to let Trump be kind of the runaway train that he sometimes is, but rather to sort of control the trajectory of the conversation so that I could Show the American people that private dimension of Trump that I had seen, but I don't think that he shields a little bit from public view.

00:14:59.000 So Dinesh, studying Trump and putting this in the film, what does he need to do in this final sprint as we are, what, 34 days out from the end of voting?

00:15:09.000 Let me get it.

00:15:10.000 Yeah.

00:15:10.000 35 days out to win and defeat Kamala Harris.

00:15:14.000 I think the case that Trump and our side needs to make is that Trump doesn't need to be rehabilitated or remade.

00:15:22.000 All the people who say, well, I don't like Trump, but I like his policies, or they say, you know, he needs to shut his mouth.

00:15:29.000 Ganesh, please tell him to stop, you know, posting on social media like that.

00:15:33.000 The point I want to make is that this guy is actually ideally suited for the crisis that we face in the country and in the world now.

00:15:41.000 He's a little bit like General Grant in the middle of the Civil War.

00:15:44.000 You know, it makes no sense to say, well, the guy drinks too much, he cusses a lot.

00:15:49.000 Those qualities are part of what made Grant an indomitable fighter on the battlefield.

00:15:55.000 And so the point is that we are living at a time when the supreme political virtue is courage.

00:16:01.000 Aristotle says it's the greatest of all the virtues, in part because it enables all the others.

00:16:06.000 It gives you the strength to do all the other virtues.

00:16:10.000 And Trump has that in a measure that is beyond anybody else I can think of.

00:16:14.000 It is vindicating Trump.

00:16:15.000 Dinesh, how do people see it and support this important film?

00:16:18.000 The website is VindicatingTrump.com.

00:16:21.000 If you type in your city or town, the theaters will pop right up.

00:16:25.000 It's in theaters right now, and there's a book of the same title coming out in a week.

00:16:29.000 You can pre-order that on the website also, VindicatingTrump.com.

00:16:33.000 Thank you so much, Dinesh.

00:16:34.000 God bless.

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00:17:14.000 What is the latest out of Iran right now? So it's looking like they did it launch their barrage of missiles 1.00

00:17:23.000 They've landed.

00:17:24.000 Now Iran is releasing statements that does imply it's it's over.

00:17:27.000 And they're saying that any further terrorist attacks by the Zionist regime will be met with a crushing response.

00:17:35.000 So it's looking like from their perspective, they think like, oh, we just we hit you back.

00:17:40.000 It's your move next.

00:17:41.000 Now.

00:17:41.000 More were killed in the shooting, I think, than the missiles.

00:17:44.000 Probably.

00:17:44.000 It doesn't seem... I mean, we may see more come out.

00:17:46.000 Some of them appear to have landed in Palestinian areas.

00:17:50.000 It may turn out that today was still safer in Tel Aviv than, like, your typical afternoon in St.

00:17:54.000 Louis.

00:17:55.000 We'll see.

00:17:58.000 But for now, it's at least a pause.

00:18:00.000 But especially with that shooting in Jaffa, I don't want to jump to any conclusions because things can move very fast in a situation like this.

00:18:11.000 So help me understand, if Israel responds, what might that look like?

00:18:17.000 There's a lot of possible responses.

00:18:19.000 It seems like they were planning to possibly escalate the war with Hezbollah already, so they could Move that up.

00:18:26.000 In terms of direct response, they could launch airstrikes on Iran.

00:18:30.000 That would be pretty dangerous.

00:18:31.000 That'd be a serious escalation.

00:18:32.000 That'd be a serious escalation.

00:18:34.000 They could go after military facilities.

00:18:36.000 They could go after nuclear facilities.

00:18:40.000 That's pretty scary because the range of potential attacks is pretty high.

00:18:44.000 I mean, you can definitely find some nutballs who would want to lob a nuclear weapon at them. 1.00

00:18:50.000 I think that would be very bad if they did that.

00:18:54.000 And that's what's frightening about this, is the range of potential responses is high and people are amped up, which means more extreme actions are possible.

00:19:03.000 You can find people on the internet who are calling for basically Israel to do whatever it wants, and whatever it wants can be a pretty extreme thing.

00:19:12.000 Yeah, so the Hezbollah proxy, how serious is the Hezbollah military that we know of?

00:19:18.000 So, the number of fighters they have, I've seen estimates of about 15,000 to 20,000, so that's decently high for a non-state military in the region.

00:19:28.000 They're also more experienced.

00:19:29.000 They fought in the Syrian civil war on the side of Assad.

00:19:33.000 So there's a lot of guys in Hezbollah who have actually fought in a war before in Syria.

00:19:40.000 And also there's probably some guys still around who are veterans. Israel did an incursion 18 years ago into

00:19:47.000 southern Lebanon, which actually did not go that great for them. They wanted to do a lot more damage to Hezbollah 1.00

00:19:53.000 than they did. So it's a lot more significant than just doing an incursion into Gaza.

00:20:00.000 And even the Gaza incursion had a lot of issues for Israel.

00:20:03.000 So it would not be an easy walkover.

00:20:07.000 I mean, I don't think they're going to lose.

00:20:08.000 It's not like they would lose and get invaded by Hezbollah or anything like that.

00:20:11.000 But there's a lot of potential that they could lose more soldiers than they expect and not do as much damage to Hezbollah as they hope. 0.71

00:20:18.000 Joining us now is Stephen Moore, author of The Trump Economic Miracle.

00:20:22.000 Stephen, welcome back to the program.

00:20:23.000 Tell us about your new book, The Trump Economic Miracle.

00:20:26.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:20:27.000 Thanks for having me on.

00:20:28.000 Well, this was a book that we've been working on for the last two years.

00:20:32.000 This was written by Arthur Laffer, the most famous economist in the world, and myself.

00:20:37.000 And it really, what it does is it sets out to show What happened under Trump, and we believe it was an economic miracle.

00:20:45.000 And by the way, Charlie, guess who came up with this title of the book?

00:20:49.000 Trump.

00:20:51.000 Yes, kind of a funny story behind it.

00:20:54.000 We went to see him about a couple of months ago.

00:20:56.000 We said we had this new book coming out, and he was very enthusiastic about it.

00:20:59.000 He said, what's the name of it?

00:21:00.000 We said, we're going to call it Trumponomics 2.0.

00:21:07.000 That's how we came up with the title.

00:21:08.000 By the way, he wrote the foreword to the book, which was really sweet of him.

00:21:13.000 This is important for people who, if you're for Trump, you should read it.

00:21:18.000 And if you know people who are not for Trump but are undecided, have them get this book because what we do in the book, Charlie, is just lay out With the facts, the official government statistics, what happened to the economy when Trump was president?

00:21:33.000 And it was an economic miracle.

00:21:34.000 We had the best economy ever before COVID.

00:21:37.000 And what has happened since Biden and Kamala Harris came in?

00:21:41.000 And I think we look at 20 major statistics, things like what happened to people's real incomes, middle-class people, what happened to the price of gasoline, what happened to the price of eggs and groceries, what happened to mortgage interest rates, what happened to small business conditions, what happened to consumer confidence.

00:22:01.000 I could go on and on, the stock market.

00:22:03.000 On 20 of the 22 major statistics and measurements, Trump is superior to Biden in many cases by a mile.

00:22:11.000 So anybody who's voting on the basis of the economy and the pocketbook issues, this book really lays out a very strong case for Trump.

00:22:20.000 So, Steve, I'm so glad that you're on today, because yesterday I was at the University of Montana and sometimes we'll get economic students that will come up to the mic.

00:22:29.000 I do an open mic type format, Steve.

00:22:32.000 And they'll say, hey, but Charlie, the economy's actually really good.

00:22:36.000 Stock market is record high right now under Biden-Harris.

00:22:40.000 The employment numbers are really good.

00:22:42.000 And all these economists say that Trump will wreck the economy.

00:22:46.000 Please walk through in methodical detail, Steve, we have a couple minutes here, what Donald Trump accomplished when he was president.

00:22:53.000 What do the irrefutable metrics and numbers show?

00:22:57.000 Well, first of all, I had a very similar experience.

00:22:59.000 I was at SMU University in Dallas.

00:23:02.000 I don't know if you've been to that school, Charlie, all over the country.

00:23:06.000 And I was surprised, you know, most of the students, it was a kind of debate Biden versus Trump.

00:23:10.000 And I'd have to say, even at SMU, which is Texas, most of the students were, and actually there were some older people there who were actually for Biden.

00:23:18.000 A lot of them were.

00:23:19.000 And I said, look, it's very simple.

00:23:21.000 If you're voting on, you know, Whether you like Donald Trump or not or something, I can't convince you otherwise.

00:23:29.000 But if you're voting on the money in your wallet, the pocketbook issues, there's no comparison.

00:23:35.000 I mean, Trump had a huge, huge—even the stock market, it is true the stock market is up.

00:23:41.000 But remember, Charlie, you have to adjust these things for inflation.

00:23:45.000 So inflation is up by 21%.

00:23:47.000 And when you adjust these things for inflation, we had a far superior stock market under Trump than Biden.

00:23:53.000 Now, is the economy getting a little better?

00:23:55.000 It is.

00:23:56.000 It is.

00:23:56.000 But people are still way underwater on their incomes.

00:24:00.000 You know, I always say this election is going to come down to the three I issues.

00:24:03.000 And I think you know what those are, Charlie.

00:24:05.000 The three I's are immigration, which obviously they're going to have great on immigration, right? 0.87

00:24:10.000 Real incomes for middle-income families, that's the second high incomes, those are down by $1,000 under Biden and up by $5,000 under Trump.

00:24:21.000 And the third is inflation, and that one's a no-brainer, right?

00:24:23.000 We had almost no inflation under Trump, and Biden has risen the price of everything by 25-30% when you look at the necessity.

00:24:30.000 So By the way, every poll shows that most Americans think the economy's headed in the wrong direction, and I think the country's headed in the wrong direction.

00:24:40.000 And you know why?

00:24:41.000 Because it is.

00:24:41.000 And Steve, I think that is actually the best argument.

00:24:45.000 Instead of getting into the weeds about cherry-picked macroeconomic data, and Blake and I, we talk about this a lot, 70% of the country thinks the economy's crummy.

00:24:55.000 Yeah.

00:24:55.000 So something is amiss.

00:24:56.000 They can just intuitively sense a lot of things are off.

00:25:00.000 Yeah, and so Steve, in your book, you said people intuitively, but I think that's not even the right word.

00:25:10.000 They get it.

00:25:11.000 They go to the grocery store.

00:25:12.000 They see it every day.

00:25:14.000 You can't spin this, Charlie.

00:25:15.000 You can't spin the economy to people.

00:25:17.000 They know what they're feeling.

00:25:19.000 They know whether they can pay their bills.

00:25:21.000 In my family, I don't pay my bills.

00:25:23.000 My wife pays the bills. 1.00

00:25:25.000 And she got so angry at me.

00:25:27.000 She goes, Steve, you have no idea how much things cost.

00:25:30.000 I said, you paid $400 this week for groceries?

00:25:33.000 She said, yeah, that was our grocery bill.

00:25:36.000 Look at our utility bill.

00:25:37.000 So people are financially stressed out.

00:25:40.000 That's exactly right.

00:25:41.000 And so let's go through then what Donald Trump was able to accomplish.

00:25:46.000 Why was he able to pull off this economic miracle?

00:25:50.000 What did he do, Steve, that unleashed the greatest American economy of our lifetime?

00:25:55.000 Well, I think the very short answer to that question, Charlie, is that there's a very, very clear difference in these two candidates.

00:26:04.000 Donald Trump, whether you love him or hate him, and I have great admiration for Trump, and I don't agree with him on everything, but I agree with him on most things.

00:26:11.000 Donald Trump is a businessman.

00:26:13.000 He's a success.

00:26:14.000 He knows how to make money.

00:26:15.000 He knows how to hire people.

00:26:17.000 He knows how to make a payroll.

00:26:19.000 Kamala, I guess she's claiming she worked one year for McDonald's. 0.99

00:26:23.000 I don't know if that's been verified yet, but we don't even know if that's true.

00:26:28.000 So let's give her the benefit of the doubt.

00:26:30.000 She has one year of experience working for a business and the rest of her life she's been in government.

00:26:35.000 So why would anybody think someone who's spent their whole life in government would have a superior record on the economy than someone who actually knows how the economy works.

00:26:44.000 I mean, Kamala Harris has no idea how businesses work, how to meet a payroll, how to make a profit. 1.00

00:26:51.000 I mean, she talks about these greedy profitable companies.

00:26:54.000 Well, Kamala, why don't you go out and start a company and see if you can be profitable. 0.97

00:26:57.000 Then you can complain.

00:26:58.000 Yeah, I think that's, by the way, the McDonald's thing, I think it's a fraud, right, Blake?

00:27:02.000 The McDonald's thing?

00:27:03.000 It's stolen valor?

00:27:05.000 It seems so.

00:27:06.000 I feel like they'd be able to prove it at this point.

00:27:08.000 By the way, hold on, as somebody said, somebody has to have a really, really unimpressive career if they have to boast about what they're having.

00:27:16.000 It's the only job she ever got without nepotism. 0.99

00:27:19.000 That's right.

00:27:20.000 So let's play Cut 75 here, please.

00:27:23.000 The four years he was in office, we were doing good, absolutely good.

00:27:27.000 You know, Kamala, she's already in office and ain't s*** done. 1.00

00:27:31.000 And, you know, I mean, there was more work, too.

00:27:38.000 We were able to afford things.

00:27:40.000 So that was a Latino voter, Steve, in Nevada.

00:27:44.000 30 seconds.

00:27:45.000 Is that consistent with what you're hearing on the ground, people that remember the Trump economy better?

00:27:49.000 Yeah, it is.

00:27:50.000 It pretty much is.

00:27:51.000 And there's some people who don't want to remember, they don't want to believe, you know, and look, we're a 50-50 nation right now in terms of, you know, red state, blue state and red state voters and blue state.

00:28:01.000 But when most Americans, even the Biden voters will admit to me, I don't know if they ever do that with you, Charlie, they'll admit, okay, Trump was better on the economy, but maybe they don't like his position on abortion or they don't like this or that about him.

00:28:14.000 But, Again, I think it's going to come down to those pocketbook issues.

00:28:18.000 There is a condescension that is built into part of the Democrats where they're like, oh, you guys have memory issues.

00:28:24.000 It actually wasn't good when Trump was president.

00:28:27.000 It's a big part of their... Yeah, just like their misinformation is leading voters on the economy they live through.

00:28:32.000 Chris Coons said that.

00:28:33.000 Let's try to find that tape.

00:28:34.000 Chris Coons basically was like, we have a memory issue problem in our country.

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00:29:43.000 Steve, it looks as if everyone has memory problems.

00:29:45.000 Play cut 76.

00:29:46.000 You're right, Joe.

00:29:47.000 It is narrowing.

00:29:48.000 The gap between Harris and Trump on who do you believe will chart a better economic future for us has narrowed quite a bit, by half.

00:29:56.000 Part of it is that Americans, when you ask the question, are you better off today than you were four years ago, many Americans misremember just how bad the economy was four years ago and how strong our economic recovery from the pandemic has been. 0.99

00:30:10.000 Steve, it's people are stupid, is what he says. 0.99

00:30:14.000 Well, this is the part of the history that the Democrats are making up, and Kamala Harris says this all the time as well. 1.00

00:30:22.000 You heard her say, oh, we took over and the whole economy was a mess and it was a disaster.

00:30:27.000 No, it wasn't.

00:30:28.000 In fact, the last six months of the Trump presidency, we were coming out of COVID like a rocket ship.

00:30:33.000 Remember that?

00:30:34.000 I mean, it was very strong, and the American people made a big mistake in the election.

00:30:40.000 And by the way, if it had not been for COVID, Trump, as you know, Carly, Trump would have won what?

00:30:45.000 Do you think 40 states?

00:30:46.000 Maybe 42 states?

00:30:46.000 He would have done well.

00:30:47.000 Yeah, he would have done very well.

00:30:49.000 It would have been a Reagan-style landslide.

00:30:51.000 And so COVID disrupted everything.

00:30:54.000 That's why a lot of people think maybe this wasn't just an accident.

00:30:57.000 It happened when it happened.

00:30:59.000 The economy was recovering.

00:31:02.000 We had 1.5% inflation when Trump left office, and then 18 months later, we have a 9.1% inflation bomb that hits the economy, and it affects every one of us every day.

00:31:13.000 And I'm telling you, if we elect Kamala Harris, we're going to see even higher inflation than that in a second term, because all she wants to do is spend, spend, spend, tax, tax, tax, borrow, borrow, borrow, grow government, And it will be quite a disaster for our country, which is why I feel pretty confident that Trump will win.

00:31:37.000 But I don't want people to be overly confident.

00:31:40.000 This thing might come down to the wire.

00:31:42.000 I was in New Jersey this weekend for a wedding.

00:31:45.000 Well, they get it from very well-financed left-wing billionaires from California and New York.

00:31:49.000 Act Blue is a very formidable thing.

00:31:50.000 I don't know what's behind it.

00:31:52.000 Where do they get all the money, Charlie?

00:31:53.000 It's unbelievable.

00:31:54.000 Well, they get it from very well-financed left-wing billionaires from California and

00:31:59.000 New York.

00:32:00.000 And ActBlue, I'll tell you, ActBlue is a very formidable thing.

00:32:04.000 I don't know what's behind it.

00:32:06.000 They are horrible.

00:32:07.000 Hundreds of millions of dollars that are pumping into Democrat campaigns.

00:32:11.000 Steve, we are being outspent in every major race across the country except, like, the West Virginia Senate race.

00:32:18.000 We are being outspent.

00:32:19.000 And that never used to be the case.

00:32:20.000 Remember Steve, you know, used to say, oh, Republicans have more money?

00:32:23.000 Democrats are outspending us by three, four, five times now.

00:32:26.000 It's remarkable.

00:32:27.000 And I do think, by the way, and I don't have proof of this, this is just an allegation, but Charlie, I really do believe a lot of money is coming from overseas.

00:32:34.000 I totally agree.

00:32:35.000 Russia.

00:32:35.000 I think it's coming from Iran.

00:32:37.000 I think it's coming from Europe.

00:32:39.000 Because none of the foreign leaders want... Kamala's right. 0.56

00:32:42.000 They don't want Trump to be president because he's going to drive a hard bargain with them.

00:32:46.000 Kamala's just going to pass out money to these people. 1.00

00:32:49.000 Of course they're going to love Santa Claus.

00:32:51.000 That is exactly.

00:32:52.000 Steve, I totally agree.

00:32:53.000 And there's a lot of suspicion around this ActBlue thing because they are funneling this money in.

00:33:00.000 And people understand, this is not super PAC money.

00:33:02.000 This is hard money.

00:33:04.000 So this is money that you can spend to get lower cost advertisement.

00:33:09.000 And so campaigns get ads for a lower cost per advertisement than a super PAC.

00:33:15.000 A super PAC has to pay almost three or four times more.

00:33:18.000 Campaigns actually, by law, get a lower placement cost.

00:33:22.000 So the Kamala Harris campaign, they have far more money than Trump.

00:33:25.000 In closing here, Steve, one minute remaining.

00:33:27.000 What does Trump need to do if he wins right out of the gate to prevent a looming recession?

00:33:33.000 He's got to do the drill baby drill.

00:33:36.000 He's got to have about a 200.

00:33:38.000 He'll executive orders on his desk and he said he will do this ready to sign basically reversing all of the crazy regulations that we put on our businesses.

00:33:49.000 But I do think there's just going to be a burst of confidence.

00:33:52.000 Don't you Charlie?

00:33:53.000 If he wins, I should say when he wins, it's going to be like taking a champagne bottle and shaking it up and taking the cork up.

00:33:59.000 This American economy is ready to explode.

00:34:02.000 We just need someone who's pro business.

00:34:04.000 But, you know, my closing point would be, first of all, get the book.

00:34:09.000 It's called The Trump Economic Miracle.

00:34:11.000 But second of all, you know, a $5 trillion tax increase?

00:34:15.000 You've got to have in your head examined if you think a $5 trillion tax increase is going to grow the American economy.

00:34:20.000 That's absurd.

00:34:21.000 Well said.

00:34:22.000 Steve Moore, great work.

00:34:23.000 Thank you so much.

00:34:24.000 Thank you, Charlie.

00:34:25.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:34:27.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:34:30.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - October 02, 2024

Donald Trump's Economic Miracle

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