The Charlie Kirk Show - Down with the (Burger) King with Michael Seifert and Russ Vought

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00:00:24.000 I ask, what is a woman to a group of college women? 0.54

00:00:26.000 And they do not know the answer.

00:00:28.000 And Bob Menendez.

00:00:29.000 I got a lot of respect for this guy.

00:00:31.000 No, I'm half kidding.

00:00:32.000 Not really.

00:00:33.000 You'll know what I mean if you listen to the end of the episode.

00:00:35.000 It's far from respect, but the guy's got game.

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00:01:00.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:01:42.000 Joining us now is Russ Vogt, president of the Center for Renewing America.

00:01:46.000 It is September 26th.

00:01:48.000 The shutdown is looming on September 30th.

00:01:51.000 Russ, thank you for joining us.

00:01:52.000 We've had a lot of congressmen on the program, some great guys, Congressman Dan Bishop, Matt Gates, we've had Chip Roy.

00:01:58.000 But I'll be honest, it is a Chinese fire drill.

00:02:00.000 It is disorganized.

00:02:01.000 You have people on every single side.

00:02:03.000 I was on the phone this morning.

00:02:04.000 No one knows what the heck is going on.

00:02:06.000 So, Russ, what are you hearing?

00:02:07.000 What can we expect coming to September 30th?

00:02:10.000 Do you think the government's going to shut down?

00:02:12.000 I do think it's going to shut down.

00:02:14.000 I think that's where we are.

00:02:15.000 And I think it should, because this is the last leverage point we have against the Biden administration.

00:02:20.000 And you're right, Charlie, in the sense that when you have kind of an intentional strategy on the part of leadership to force this into a corner, it's going to leave something to be desired on the execution front.

00:02:33.000 But here's the good news.

00:02:34.000 I think the House conservatives are increasingly united in forcing a conversation about moving forward on bill by bill and really focusing on the woken weaponized restrictions that need to be put in place to put a vice grip around the Biden administration's activities against the American people.

00:02:56.000 I think you're going to see those kinds of debates this week, and it's going to move to a good place in terms of the theatrics of the last several weeks.

00:03:04.000 Yeah, and I want to make sure that we calm down the alarmism.

00:03:06.000 So I received a couple emails this weekend.

00:03:08.000 Charlie, I can't believe you want a government shutdown.

00:03:10.000 I need my social security checks.

00:03:11.000 Russ, let's tell the truth about this.

00:03:13.000 Social Security still goes out.

00:03:14.000 Medicare still goes out.

00:03:15.000 Essential government services, which I find hilarious, because if they're not essential, why do they have jobs?

00:03:20.000 They should all be fired.

00:03:21.000 This is a partial, very partial.

00:03:23.000 Let's just call it a fractional government pause because it's not actually a shutdown because they all get back pay.

00:03:29.000 It's basically the secret that no one wants to say is that a lot of government workers are hoping for this because they basically get a vacation.

00:03:37.000 Russ, tell us what really happens because this is important.

00:03:41.000 You got the parameters of this.

00:03:42.000 I mean, two-thirds of the federal government is on autopilot.

00:03:46.000 Not a good situation, but the reality of where we are.

00:03:49.000 So a third of the federal government is subject to what we call the annual appropriations process.

00:03:54.000 But if you're on Social Security, there's nothing to worry about.

00:03:57.000 You're going to get your check and you're going to get your check on time, Medicare.

00:04:01.000 The Department of Defense is going to continue to be out there defending our country.

00:04:05.000 All of the people that is in the business of securing this country are going to be similarly at their post.

00:04:12.000 What this does is this says, you know, for those of you who are working on the Biden climate regulations at the EPA or the Department of Interior, sorry, you're going to have to go home.

00:04:23.000 You're not going to be able to be at your desk and working.

00:04:26.000 And so this is not something, there are tried and true ways, and I've managed this for President Trump to make this painless as possible, consistent with the law.

00:04:35.000 We thankfully blazed a pretty good trail on that, that they're going to have a hard time playing politics with this.

00:04:41.000 We'll be holding them accountable.

00:04:43.000 But in terms of the, this is not a situation where the, you know, you're going to go off a cliff and somehow you're not going to get your government benefits.

00:04:50.000 It's just not the case.

00:04:51.000 Okay, so let's get into this here.

00:04:53.000 What then is the ask?

00:04:55.000 Because the way I look at it, the way the stars have aligned, the universe, all of a sudden, and again, I'm not happy about this, but it just so happens the border has never been as bad as it is right now.

00:05:07.000 And that's like intersecting right with this funding fight over border security.

00:05:12.000 Russ, if Republicans can't get this done when there's 8,500 people illegally entering an Eagle Pass alone, I mean, it's not as if this is something that happened six months ago.

00:05:22.000 This is actively occurring, then Republicans are completely worthless.

00:05:26.000 Russ, so what is the ask and strategically, what is your advice for how they actually get it done?

00:05:33.000 So my view is that they have had a wonderful banner, a messaging parameter called no security, no funding that allows them to be able to go at this seminal threat that we're seeing along the border and to make that a very, very important issue.

00:05:48.000 I also think it allows them to deal with the weaponization at the Department of Justice.

00:05:53.000 I don't think that we can leave this leverage point without doing something against the regime that is trying to steal the next election and at the same time going against half the country and considering them enemies of the state.

00:06:08.000 So I think there's a lot of things that can be done.

00:06:12.000 But if we don't get to the end of this process and have dealt with those two issues and then spent a lot of time trying to defund the offices doing the bad activities, I'll consider it a failure.

00:06:24.000 So, but then the goal needs to be then not paperwork processors on the border, but actual border security.

00:06:32.000 That's a major difference.

00:06:33.000 But also, I think that the pressure needs to be that Joe Biden needs to start deporting these people.

00:06:39.000 He's hosting them and just releasing them into the interior of the United States. 0.57

00:06:43.000 Exactly.

00:06:44.000 And there's a specific rider that needs to be put in place.

00:06:47.000 And Stephen Miller has been calling this for this some time as well as Chip Roy.

00:06:51.000 It needs to be illegal in the sense that you can't spend the money to be able to release someone into the border.

00:06:58.000 That's the kind of thing that it's not just about changing laws that they ignore.

00:07:02.000 It's about saying that a bureaucrat is going to be facing criminal charges in violation of the Anti-Deficiency Act if they ignore the appropriations law that's saying that they can't do that.

00:07:15.000 And as a result, that will change a lot of the policies that we've been asking for.

00:07:19.000 So we're looming towards this lockdown.

00:07:22.000 Re-emphasize what you're saying about leadership.

00:07:24.000 How has leadership basically set the table for failure?

00:07:28.000 Build that out for us.

00:07:30.000 Sure.

00:07:30.000 The year started with much promise.

00:07:32.000 For the first time, House Republicans were governing with conservatives in their caucus, and they were achieving things that no one thought was possible to pass $5 trillion in potential cuts.

00:07:43.000 At the debt limit deal, Kevin McCarthy walked away from House Conservatives and went essentially into coalition with House Democrats.

00:07:52.000 At the time, he used as an excuse, he said, we'll do all this through the appropriations process.

00:07:57.000 That was an excuse because they then didn't move any of the appropriations bills themselves.

00:08:02.000 It's not like these bills are passed out of the House and sitting in the Senate.

00:08:06.000 Instead, they've had a pileup in which we are now up against a deadline and they're asking for more time.

00:08:13.000 But the problem is, is that McCarthy has never governed from the standpoint of we're going to use leverage points to save the country.

00:08:22.000 Instead, he puts a cartel view on it, which is we're going to try to minimize what is necessary to get past this leverage point because otherwise it will have political risk.

00:08:33.000 And I think you and I agree, like, we're not going to save the country without managing political risk.

00:08:39.000 And we can do that.

00:08:40.000 We have done that previously in shutdowns.

00:08:42.000 And the country will reward Republicans when they fight over these leverage points.

00:08:46.000 That's what we're asking right now.

00:08:48.000 And I think conservatives are insisting on it.

00:08:50.000 And so far, he's having to go in their direction.

00:08:53.000 Yeah.

00:08:53.000 And I think we need to reject the framing of shutdown, which, by the way, ideologically, I'll on board for maybe a pause.

00:08:58.000 I mean, how can we message this?

00:08:59.000 Because, Russ, here's what's going to happen, right?

00:09:01.000 So we are barreling towards not getting a deal done on Saturday, right?

00:09:06.000 And honestly, I hope a deal doesn't get done in the sense of enough, draw a line in the sand, show your voters you're fighting.

00:09:11.000 You know, don't, it's better for no deal than a bad deal.

00:09:14.000 I think you would agree with that, right, Russ?

00:09:15.000 It's better for no deal at all than a bad deal.

00:09:18.000 And so September 30th happens.

00:09:20.000 And again, your social security checks still go out.

00:09:22.000 Medicare still goes out.

00:09:23.000 Military still do. 1.00

00:09:24.000 You have the DEI, you know, lesbian bureaucrats at the Department of Homeland Security or whatever that might not, you know, be going to work for a couple of days. 1.00

00:09:33.000 Honestly, good thing.

00:09:34.000 So, but Russ, let's just kind of think about this.

00:09:36.000 How could we better message it?

00:09:38.000 Because the media Sunday morning, Face the Nation, CBS, all that full court press, Republicans shut down the government once midnight hits on Saturday night.

00:09:46.000 So how do we get ahead of this and preemptively message it and not just be on our heels and play defense?

00:09:53.000 Yeah, I mean, I think the reality is to go back to the facts.

00:09:55.000 What is occurring here?

00:09:56.000 It's a lapse in funding.

00:09:58.000 It is a lapse in funding.

00:09:59.000 The government's not shutting down.

00:10:01.000 The Department of Defense is still up and running.

00:10:04.000 That would be the case if it actually shut down.

00:10:06.000 Those people would not be at their post.

00:10:09.000 What is happening?

00:10:10.000 Funding has lapsed.

00:10:11.000 Funding will come back on when Congress reaches a deal.

00:10:15.000 And I think if we can communicate facts in that vein, we will help our case and explain to the American people what's actually going on.

00:10:22.000 But here's the thing that I would say: these leverage points in which there is confrontation and there is political risk are incredibly important because the only chance that we get to get the country's attention is when people who are not listening to politics are listening to their like Christian music station or whatever they're listening to, and all of a sudden they have the news update that's saying, okay, there is a government lapse.

00:10:43.000 Oh, what are the terms that are being discussed?

00:10:45.000 Oh, the weaponization of the Department of Justice.

00:10:48.000 That's what we want.

00:10:49.000 And that is a feature, not a bug of our politicians here in the cartel of Washington, D.C. Russ, you're doing a wonderful job.

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00:10:58.000 We're going to have you back on.

00:11:00.000 September 30th is the big day.

00:11:01.000 I think we're going to swing and miss.

00:11:03.000 But honestly, I'd rather have us strike out with no deal than one that betrays our voters.

00:11:08.000 Russ, thank you so much.

00:11:09.000 You bet.

00:11:10.000 Thanks, Charlie.

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00:12:15.000 Matt Walsh deserves a lot of credit from the Daily Wire.

00:12:17.000 He came out with the documentary, What is a Woman?

00:12:21.000 And I've been doing this for 11 years on college campuses.

00:12:25.000 And when I saw the documentary, I said, man, that is a brilliant way that Matt is framing it.

00:12:28.000 Such a simple question.

00:12:30.000 We're all of civilization since the beginning of the species, you know what a woman is, that only the college educated think that it's a trick question.

00:12:38.000 They're unable to answer the question.

00:12:41.000 So I go to college campuses, so you don't have to.

00:12:43.000 Turning Point USA is the nation's largest organization, not even close.

00:12:47.000 High school, college students.

00:12:49.000 And whenever you come across some very passionate trans activists that are ladies, it's helpful just to ask the question.

00:12:58.000 It's not a trick question at all.

00:13:01.000 When I say that sending your grandkid to a college is playing Russian roulette with their values, you'll see what I mean.

00:13:13.000 Here is a tape.

00:13:15.000 I'm sitting down speaking to these young ladies and I ask them, what is a woman?

00:13:20.000 What is a woman?

00:13:21.000 One of the more simple questions a human being can answer, a four-year-old can answer. 1.00

00:13:27.000 This is an example of the ideological poison toxin that college campuses have become.

00:13:38.000 PlayCut 86. 0.99

00:13:40.000 What is a woman? 1.00

00:13:42.000 That's a stupid question. 1.00

00:13:44.000 What is a woman? 1.00

00:13:45.000 It's not a trick question. 1.00

00:13:48.000 What is a woman? 0.98

00:13:51.000 You can't answer the question with the question. 1.00

00:13:54.000 Yeah, define the woman without saying woman. 0.99

00:14:01.000 You're in college paying for an education. 1.00

00:14:04.000 What is a woman? 1.00

00:14:05.000 How about you talk to someone with media training? 1.00

00:14:08.000 You don't need media training.

00:14:10.000 It's not a trick. 1.00

00:14:11.000 What is a woman? 1.00

00:14:14.000 You can't answer the question with a...

00:14:18.000 It's the college kids of America going hundreds of thousands of dollars into debt who think it's a trick question when you ask them what a woman is.

00:14:25.000 That's the state of America today.

00:14:27.000 You're speaking to the most passionate.

00:14:30.000 They are there yelling at me, protesting, screaming, swearing at me about trans whatever.

00:14:38.000 And I just say, so what is a woman?

00:14:41.000 I don't have media training. 1.00

00:14:44.000 Or that's a stupid question. 1.00

00:14:45.000 That's my favorite. 1.00

00:14:46.000 They just throw something down. 1.00

00:14:48.000 That's a stupid question. 1.00

00:14:50.000 Wait a second. 1.00

00:14:50.000 So the entire Democrat Party for years is all about women's rights, and they can't tell you what a woman is. 1.00

00:14:57.000 The answer is very simple: XX chromosomes.

00:15:01.000 An adult female.

00:15:02.000 That's it. 0.99

00:15:02.000 An adult female with XX chromosomes. 0.99

00:15:05.000 Period.

00:15:05.000 But they can't say that because then it breaks and it has a glitch in the matrix of the trans mafia.

00:15:13.000 That's why they don't like that question.

00:15:15.000 It's the ultimate glitch. 0.94

00:15:17.000 And here they are, young ladies. 0.99

00:15:19.000 By the way, they could have owned me. 0.63

00:15:22.000 They could have been like, sir, I'm a woman, and you'll never know what it's like to be a woman.

00:15:27.000 That's actually a pretty good answer.

00:15:29.000 Why won't they say that?

00:15:30.000 Because they can't.

00:15:32.000 Because they value trans ideology over womanhood. 0.67

00:15:39.000 How about you talk to somebody with media training?

00:15:43.000 Media training? 1.00

00:15:45.000 I'm asking, what is a woman? 1.00

00:15:49.000 Marsha Blackburn asked the moron Katanji Brown Jackson, the affirmative action woman on the Supreme Court. 0.99

00:15:56.000 And she said, well, I'm not a biologist. 1.00

00:15:58.000 She's not a very smart person.

00:15:59.000 We've been through that.

00:16:01.000 And she was kind of flummoxed by the question.

00:16:04.000 When you go down to basic vocabulary, it's amazing how they build their entire worldview on a couple of words, a couple phrases, and they can't tell you what those actually are.

00:16:21.000 I hear this a lot, and it's 100% true. 1.00

00:16:24.000 These people are brainwashed into a cult, which, of course, is what happens when you send your kid to college.

00:16:31.000 They say, I'm not a biologist.

00:16:33.000 I haven't had media training. 1.00

00:16:35.000 That's a stupid question. 1.00

00:16:36.000 Or my favorite, a woman is that which identifies as a woman. 1.00

00:16:39.000 That's like saying, what is a tree?

00:16:41.000 A tree is a thing that thinks it's a treat.

00:16:42.000 No, I know, but you have to define it without saying the term that I'm asking.

00:16:47.000 They can't do that because providing a definition means that there is separation, means that there's distinction.

00:16:57.000 They're not able to do that because it would invalidate all of their beliefs.

00:17:02.000 Truth is a threat to their worldview.

00:17:05.000 They value trans over truth. 1.00

00:17:10.000 The entire woke regime that we are fighting on college campuses, rather successfully, might I add, is built on untruth.

00:17:19.000 Woke is built on lies.

00:17:21.000 Our worldview is built on truth.

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00:18:24.000 Joining us now is Michael Sieffert from Public Square.

00:18:26.000 Everybody should download the Public Square app, publicsq.com, and take out the Public Square app.

00:18:31.000 Michael, several things I'll talk about.

00:18:32.000 First, I'm going to talk about this Time magazine article.

00:18:35.000 Conservatives aren't just boycotting Bud Light. 0.82

00:18:37.000 They're trying to build a parallel economy.

00:18:39.000 Congratulations, Michael.

00:18:40.000 Tell us about it.

00:18:42.000 Well, the article was actually very fair.

00:18:44.000 I was appreciative of it.

00:18:45.000 That was not all that typical for an establishment media outlet, but I was grateful that they couldn't deny the reality.

00:18:53.000 The parallel economy is booming.

00:18:55.000 While Targets of the world and Bud Lights of the world and the HelloFreshes of the world and the Burger Kings of the world continue to embrace progressive virtue signaling and woke behaviors over providing quality products, we're actually singing a fundamentally different tune.

00:19:09.000 We're swimming in a different direction.

00:19:11.000 And this economy is burgeoning.

00:19:13.000 It's blowing up.

00:19:13.000 And we're very grateful for the way in which our movement has rallied around this cause.

00:19:18.000 I will say, I have never seen a political faction, conservatives, all together rally around one cohesive thing as much as I have the parallel economy.

00:19:28.000 It's amazing the different stripes of conservatism that have come together to say, you know what, we can vote every day with our wallet.

00:19:34.000 I think it unifies our base in a very profound way.

00:19:36.000 And it allows us to not just have the power at the ballot box every two and four years.

00:19:41.000 I certainly admire what you're doing fighting the election fight, Charlie, but I admire it especially because you actually believe that we can vote outside of the ballot box as well.

00:19:48.000 We vote every day.

00:19:49.000 We have a single day with our wallet.

00:19:50.000 That was articulated with this time.

00:19:51.000 We vote every day.

00:19:53.000 And so if you guys look here, you don't have to look at the website, but you should go to publicsq.com.

00:19:57.000 Don't look at the article.

00:19:58.000 Don't give them the traffic.

00:20:00.000 But yes, it is rather fair.

00:20:01.000 And it talks about how there has been a response by Grassroots America to engage in freedom-loving, freedom-appreciating type companies.

00:20:11.000 And so this has really kind of played out again over the weekend.

00:20:15.000 Burger King, which their food is just awful and poison, says that they're no longer going to advertise on Rumble, which is another one of our favorite companies and partners.

00:20:26.000 And they say they're done.

00:20:27.000 Also, HelloFresh, never heard of them, and ASOS Menswear.

00:20:32.000 Basically, they're all pulling advertisement from Russell Brand because of anonymous allegations that came over a decade ago.

00:20:39.000 It really makes me wonder, Michael, and I'm sure you've done some research into this.

00:20:43.000 There has to be some activist pressure externally.

00:20:46.000 Burger King did not come up with this on their own, right? 1.00

00:20:48.000 There was probably some syndicate, some activist cartel that pressured Burger King to stop placing ads.

00:20:55.000 Talk about how these things don't necessarily always happen organically, Michael.

00:20:59.000 Yeah, in fact, it's rarely happening organically.

00:21:02.000 It's actually very more institutional than we might realize.

00:21:05.000 So there are two pressure systems.

00:21:07.000 Number one is the nonprofit network that claims to be for human rights.

00:21:11.000 So this is the ADL pressuring advertisers to cancel conservative hosts or creators.

00:21:17.000 We've obviously seen that blow up recently.

00:21:19.000 So the anti-defamation league that actually loves to defame people, which is kind of ironic.

00:21:23.000 Then you've got the human rights campaign that's actually anything but a proponent of human rights.

00:21:29.000 If you're a white Christian straight man, they will gladly weaponize the political and nonprofit system against you and your rights. 0.98

00:21:35.000 But they claim to help marginalize quote unquote communities.

00:21:38.000 So you've got those nonprofits that literally make it their sole aim to cancel those folks that they deem oppressive or hostile to their message.

00:21:48.000 Then you have arguably the even more sinister institutions, which are the financial networks and systems that are built to incentivize woke behaviors, meaning the ESG and the DEI complex.

00:21:59.000 You have folks, banks, financial institutions, credit institutions that will literally give financial favor to certain companies if they have a higher ESG or DEI score.

00:22:09.000 So you can imagine what advertising for an enemy of the left would do to your ESG score.

00:22:16.000 Oh, no, we may lose our financial access and not have quite as favorable of loan systems.

00:22:22.000 So we're going to cancel the creator that we used to advertise with.

00:22:24.000 That's how these things happen.

00:22:26.000 It's pressure through organizations that receive a lot of donor funds that are funded by the Soros Empire and the Clinton Foundation in order to stifle voices that disagree with them.

00:22:36.000 And it is a financial institutional system that is designed to reward progressive authoritarian behaviors.

00:22:43.000 And obviously, Russell Brand found himself out of their good graces.

00:22:46.000 So they weaponized the system against him.

00:22:48.000 Yeah.

00:22:49.000 So you take, you know, Burger King, for example, which is a massive company.

00:22:53.000 They have a holding company called like Restaurant Brands, a $20 billion company.

00:22:57.000 You're trying to tell me that Burger King and their massive marketing budget, which by the way, like every other NFL game is a Burger King ad, right?

00:23:04.000 I mean, so the huge volume of advertisement, you're trying to tell me that they organically woke up and they say, oh, yeah, by the way, the $50,000 of ads that we're spending on Rumble, get rid of it because of old allegations against Russell Brand.

00:23:19.000 No, here's what happened is that left-wing activist groups went to Rumble, R-U-M-B-L-E.com, and they saw some of the blue chip advertisers that were there.

00:23:29.000 And there were probably 30 of them.

00:23:31.000 And they were successful to get three to decommit.

00:23:34.000 Scalps, right?

00:23:35.000 So they try to create momentum.

00:23:37.000 They try to create this synthetic push to try to destroy Rumble, destroy any platforms of Russell Brand, because obviously he's speaking out against that stuff.

00:23:47.000 But you're trying to fix that.

00:23:48.000 Talk about the business directory at Public Square, Michael.

00:23:51.000 Well, we are actually the safe haven in the home for advertisers that want to spend their money with the goal of attracting consumers that love the Constitution and the values that it protects.

00:24:02.000 We have adopted the largest network of businesses in the world that are fundamentally against this cancel culture funded by the left.

00:24:11.000 You're exactly right in what happened with Burger King in this situation.

00:24:14.000 So what we've done is create the alternative.

00:24:16.000 If you want a lot of restaurants and a lot of food providers and a lot of clothing companies, the watch I'm wearing now and the shoes on my feet that love the country and the Constitution and the values that it protects, that recognize the gift of liberty endowed by our creator, these unalienable rights.

00:24:30.000 If you want to spend your money with companies that support those ideals, Public Square is the network.

00:24:34.000 We are also now larger than the entire active base of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.

00:24:38.000 So for us, the Chamber of Commerce is dead.

00:24:41.000 We are now the replacement that is not corrupt, that's actually prioritizing the representation of America's small business interests.

00:24:49.000 So whether you're a business that wants to get your voice out and connect with a group of consumers that are excited to shop with you because you have values alignment, or you're a consumer that is tired of funding the woke industrial complex and you're ready to spend your money with a business that would never lecture you about gender ideology or cancel you because of your conservative views, you can head to publicsq.com and you'll find both of those opportunities there.

00:25:12.000 And so you're starting to see some anxiety across some of the corporate America types, right?

00:25:16.000 Because they're worried that them becoming super PACs that also sells, you know, Democrat super PACs that also sell products and services, that it's fallen apart, that this is an unsustainable model.

00:25:27.000 And we know this because of the layoffs.

00:25:30.000 We know this because of a lot of their, you know, let's just say earnings are a little bit lower than their necessary projections.

00:25:38.000 And look, half the country, if half the country started to shop their values, we'd be in a much different place.

00:25:44.000 I mean, in Burger King, they come out and they say, you know, we have a picture here, time to be proud.

00:25:49.000 They have the Pride Whopper, right, back in June.

00:25:52.000 And Michael, reflecting back on the summer, I think a lot of this changed during Pride Month.

00:25:56.000 I think this was one of the first Junes where corporate America realized that there was a liability, not a benefit to embracing the trans radical gay agenda.

00:26:07.000 Well, and they're kind of in a sticky situation now because it's sort of a catch-22.

00:26:12.000 They can't win because they've already shown their true colors.

00:26:16.000 No pun intended with the Pride stuff.

00:26:18.000 They show their true colors and now they're trying to have their cake and eat it too, come back to the middle, wherever that is.

00:26:26.000 But at the same time, they're refusing to deny their past behavior.

00:26:30.000 For example, with Target, when they came out and promoted tucking underwear for children in their children's section, they faced a lot of backlash, rightfully so.

00:26:39.000 Moms were really frustrated and were not down to patronize that type of establishment.

00:26:43.000 So they removed some of the memorabilia, some of the merchandise in certain stores that may have a certain propensity to be disgusted by that type of thing.

00:26:53.000 But in Seattle, they keep it up.

00:26:55.000 And then the CEO comes out after the fact and says that we are going to redefine how we do pride, but they're still going to do pride.

00:27:02.000 The same is actually true, Charlie.

00:27:03.000 And I'll finish with this.

00:27:04.000 Larry Fink, the CEO of renowned wealth management firm BlackRock, largest asset manager in the world, came out this week and said that we are redefining ESG.

00:27:14.000 We don't want to use the term anymore.

00:27:16.000 So we're getting away from ESG.

00:27:18.000 Well, the media enterprise came out and said, see, guys, look, BlackRock's dropping ESG.

00:27:22.000 They're not down for political stuff.

00:27:24.000 They're not a politicized company.

00:27:25.000 But if you actually read into it, they've doubled down on all the principles of ESG.

00:27:29.000 They're just changing the acronym.

00:27:31.000 And so it's important for American consumers right now to be very attentive.

00:27:35.000 Is the company that was virtue signaling a few months ago, are they actually changing their ways?

00:27:41.000 Or are they simply trying to pull the wool over your eyes, make it look like they want to be for all people when in reality, they're refusing to deny the very actions that led to the decrease in their market cap in the first place.

00:27:51.000 That's exactly right.

00:27:52.000 And we're seeing momentum.

00:27:53.000 We're seeing small businesses join public square, and it's a navigational tool.

00:27:59.000 And people say, Charlie, what can I do?

00:28:01.000 Audit your finances.

00:28:02.000 How much of your money is funding the enemy unintentionally?

00:28:05.000 How much of your daily expenditure of your monthly, oh, I get $10 this and $5 that.

00:28:12.000 When you go out to eat, are you going to go to a local small business or a restaurant that flies the trans flag or one that flies the American flag?

00:28:19.000 Public Square helps solve that.

00:28:21.000 I'm enthusiastically behind it.

00:28:22.000 Go to publicsq.com.

00:28:24.000 That's publicsq.com.

00:28:25.000 Michael, thanks so much.

00:28:26.000 Good to see you, Charlie.

00:28:27.000 Thank you.

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00:29:33.000 I just have to say, this Menendez thing is really something else.

00:29:36.000 So Menendez steps up to the microphone and he basically just gives double middle fingers to the entire Democrat Party.

00:29:45.000 And I'm here for all of it. 0.99

00:29:47.000 For number one, first, Menendez is totally a crook. 0.99

00:29:49.000 Okay. 0.98

00:29:50.000 I don't think there's anybody he's framed.

00:29:55.000 I love his excuse he gives at the press conference.

00:29:58.000 Coming from Cuba, I know what it's like to have bank runs, and I have been doing periodic ATM withdrawals.

00:30:05.000 Like, okay, then how do you explain the gold bars and the halal guy buying the gold bars and giving them to you?

00:30:10.000 It's just hilarious, but innocent until proven guilty, fine, sure.

00:30:14.000 It also just weakens so much of the media's focus against Donald Trump.

00:30:21.000 Like, it really does weaken it.

00:30:23.000 If Menendez would have resigned and kind of gone down willingly, it would have just kind of gone off.

00:30:28.000 Now, the fact that he's fighting, first of all, I have respect for it.

00:30:32.000 He's like, you're going to have to drag me out.

00:30:35.000 I have secrets on all of you.

00:30:36.000 I mean, as a conservative pro-American guy, honestly, I hope he stays in power.

00:30:41.000 Like, stay as long as you can, man.

00:30:43.000 Make this as big of a deal.

00:30:44.000 You got Pelosi saying he should resign, AOC saying he should resign.

00:30:48.000 You have Fetterman say he should resign.

00:30:51.000 I say he shouldn't resign.

00:30:53.000 I think he should stay in the Senate for as long as possible.

00:30:57.000 Fight, man.

00:30:59.000 Because you know what Bob Menendez is probably going to do next?

00:31:01.000 I mean, this guy really, his identity is all in his Senate seat.

00:31:05.000 He's going to do a press conference.

00:31:06.000 He'll be like, and trust me, there are other people in the Senate that have done far worse.

00:31:09.000 Like, he's going to go scorched earth potentially.

00:31:12.000 But he was as defiant as Defiant gets yesterday.

00:31:18.000 Play cut 73.

00:31:20.000 To those who have rushed to judgment, you have done so based on a limited set of facts framed by the prosecution to be as salacious as possible.

00:31:29.000 Remember, prosecutors get it wrong sometimes.

00:31:34.000 Sadly, I know that.

00:31:37.000 And here's his excuse about why there is $400,000 of cash throughout his home.

00:31:43.000 Play cut 71.

00:31:45.000 For 30 years, I have withdrawn thousands of dollars in cash from my personal savings account, which I have kept for emergencies and because of the history of my family facing confiscation in Cuba.

00:31:59.000 Right.

00:32:00.000 So thousands, but hundreds of thousands?

00:32:02.000 $400,000 in cash.

00:32:06.000 Honestly, I respect the game, Bob Menendez.

00:32:10.000 I just, I got to be, I really respect it because you just got to imagine Bob Menendez thinking over the weekend.

00:32:18.000 All right, how do I spin the cash? 0.83

00:32:22.000 How do I no, can't say that I was a hooker. 0.98

00:32:28.000 Can't say that I did sex work.

00:32:30.000 Can't say I was a drug dealer.

00:32:32.000 Ah, I know.

00:32:34.000 I did periodic ATM withdrawals.

00:32:37.000 And I'm just going to ignore the I'm just going to ignore all the gold bar stuff.

00:32:43.000 How long until Bob Menendez comes out as trans? 0.72

00:32:47.000 AOC has some strong thoughts.

00:32:49.000 Play cut five.

00:32:50.000 I want to ask you about some Democratic politics.

00:32:53.000 You were outspoken about George Santos, the New York congressman, and said he should resign because of all the legal issues and ethical issues he was facing.

00:33:00.000 Senator Bob Menendez of New Jersey, as you know, has just been indicted on bribery charges.

00:33:07.000 Should he resign?

00:33:08.000 And what do you think of his statement that it has to do with him being a Latino?

00:33:13.000 Well, you know, I think it's the situation is quite unfortunate, but I do believe that it is in the best interests for Senator Menendez to resign in this moment.

00:33:23.000 As you mentioned, consistency matters.

00:33:26.000 It shouldn't matter whether it's a Republican or a Democrat. 0.95

00:33:29.000 The clip gets cut off short because here she is. 0.94

00:33:31.000 She's speaking as if, you know, she's a spoiled white girl from the Upper West Side, which she is Latina. 0.91

00:33:36.000 And then she just like, all of a sudden, her dialect changes.

00:33:39.000 It's one of the best parts of the quote where all of a sudden she's like, yeah, you know, I really think this is wrong.

00:33:44.000 But as a Latina, it's like, wait, hold on a second.

00:33:46.000 Like, why all of a sudden, like, what's with the code switching?

00:33:49.000 Answer.

00:33:50.000 Democrats code switch all the time. 1.00

00:33:51.000 She's an expert in it.

00:33:52.000 So like Bob Menendez, honestly, you should just put on a MAGA hat at this point.

00:33:57.000 Bob Menendez should be just walking around with a Make America Great Again hat.

00:34:00.000 Because as long as Bob Menendez is still a U.S. Senator, it weakens a lot of the media chatter about Trump and this.

00:34:08.000 Honestly, I wish parts of the Republican establishment would fight as hard as Bob Menendez does to hold on to his corrupt Senate seat.

00:34:16.000 And I say this with zero sarcasm.

00:34:19.000 Bob Menendez very well might win re-election in New Jersey.

00:34:22.000 New Jersey does not consider multi-indictments from the federal government and gold bars in cash to be an impediment.

00:34:33.000 They consider it to be impressive.

00:34:37.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:34:39.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:34:42.000 Thank you so much for listening and God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - September 26, 2023

Down with the (Burger) King with Michael Seifert and Russ Vought

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