The Charlie Kirk Show - Dylan Mulvaney, Face of Corporate America? with Oli London and West Virginia AG Morrisey

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00:01:06.000 Joining us now is Ollie London.

00:01:09.000 He's the author of a book, Gender Madness, One Man's Devastating Struggle with Woke Ideology and His Battle to Protect Children.

00:01:16.000 It is a theme we're going to build out this entire hour.

00:01:21.000 We're going to talk about who's behind this push to get corporations to embrace these trans influencers.

00:01:32.000 It's very confusing to me.

00:01:34.000 Ollie London joins us now.

00:01:35.000 Ollie, welcome to the program.

00:01:37.000 You have a very important thread I want to draw people's attention to.

00:01:42.000 Why is Dylan Mulvaney now the face of so many major corporations all of a sudden?

00:01:46.000 Fortune 500 companies have a CEI index, Corporate Equality Index, which pushes companies to go woke.

00:01:53.000 What is the CEI index and who is behind it?

00:01:55.000 How long has it been around?

00:01:58.000 Okay, so the Corporate Equality Index is this scorecard-based system, which is used for Fortune 500 companies and other major corporations.

00:02:08.000 And the group behind it, Charlie, is America's largest LGBT lobby group, the Human Rights Campaign.

00:02:16.000 So HRD, by the way, receives millions of dollars in donations from George Soros's Open Society Foundation.

00:02:24.000 So there's your first clue who is behind pushing this.

00:02:28.000 Secondly, this score system means that this LGBT lobby group goes to companies every year.

00:02:33.000 It gives them a points, a scorecard from zero to 100 based on how diverse they are, based on how many trans people they hire, based on how gender neutral the office uniforms are.

00:02:47.000 And also, it takes points away from companies that donate or fund projects that are deemed with organizations that may be anti-LGBT.

00:02:58.000 And according to the New York Post, this includes, could include Christian groups.

00:03:02.000 So these companies are being lobbied to not give money to Christian groups or churches because it might lower their score.

00:03:10.000 Yeah, and so let's just dive into this, right?

00:03:12.000 So you have this very informative thread.

00:03:15.000 You say a top Hollywood agency, CAA, which I think is Creative Arts Agency, if not mistaken, right?

00:03:21.000 Or artists agency, yep, which usually only works with A-list celebrities.

00:03:25.000 They now have access to working with all the biggest brands and relationships.

00:03:29.000 So is it fair to say they're gatekeeping this?

00:03:32.000 Is that right?

00:03:33.000 I mean, they're basically demanding that these companies embrace these trans influencers because basically what I'm getting at is that this is not organic.

00:03:46.000 It's not, it doesn't have a momentum.

00:03:49.000 This is artificial.

00:03:51.000 It is planned.

00:03:52.000 It is centralized.

00:03:53.000 Is that fair to say?

00:03:55.000 Yeah, 100%.

00:03:56.000 Again, going back to the corporate equality index, these companies are being encouraged to get a higher score.

00:04:02.000 They must employ trans people. 1.00

00:04:04.000 And for brands, they must have trans people as models. 0.99

00:04:07.000 So this would explain why we're seeing predominantly Dylan Mulvaney as the face of Ole, as the face of Bud Life, and now as the face of Nike Sportsbras.

00:04:17.000 And again, going back to her casting agency, so the talent agency is one of the biggest ones in Hollywood. 0.95

00:04:22.000 And you know, Dylan Mulvaney is not an A-list, so they're just some person that mocks women. 0.98

00:04:26.000 But, you know, they are being pushed by basically the biggest agency in Hollywood who only normally work with the biggest film stars.

00:04:33.000 So their agenda is to push trans ideology. 0.51

00:04:37.000 And, you know, they have a lot of power because if you work with Hollywood stars, you have access to every single major brand.

00:04:42.000 They have contacts everywhere.

00:04:44.000 So they can easily push this person and get them publicity, get press for the brand as well.

00:04:49.000 So, you know, they are pushing very hard from Hollywood to normalize this, Charlie.

00:04:54.000 We see constant transgender people being put in movies and films where it doesn't even make sense in the plotter part of these films to include them.

00:05:02.000 And then if you couple that with the human rights campaign funded by George Soros, which physically goes to these companies, and if they get a bad score, you know, most of these companies have the same shareholders.

00:05:12.000 So HRC puts pressure on the shareholders.

00:05:15.000 BlackRock has shares in most of these companies, like Nike.

00:05:19.000 So they put pressure on the shareholders to take action, you know, against the DO, whoever.

00:05:24.000 Yeah.

00:05:25.000 So tell us more about this human rights campaign.

00:05:29.000 By the way, Nike is probably the worst offender out of all of these.

00:05:32.000 I mean, how much contempt does Nike have for its customer base?

00:05:38.000 I mean, it's extraordinary to me, but tell us more about the human rights campaign.

00:05:43.000 So this is America's largest lobby group.

00:05:46.000 It receives millions and millions, tens of millions per year in donations.

00:05:51.000 And several million of those donations are from George Soros' Open Society Foundation.

00:05:57.000 And this particular LGBT lobby group, you know, they are the ones pushing trans ideology.

00:06:02.000 They are the ones lobbying the education system, teachers' unions to include LGBT propaganda absolutely everywhere.

00:06:12.000 They also have great access in Hollywood, so they are lobbying.

00:06:15.000 And basically, you know what these LGBT groups are like?

00:06:18.000 If a company doesn't abide by their rules, they suddenly try to cancel them.

00:06:23.000 They put pressure on them.

00:06:24.000 You see trans activists screaming outside of these buildings.

00:06:27.000 You know, we see that with book companies, book publishers that publish something that might not be what trans activists want to see.

00:06:34.000 You know, they protest and riot.

00:06:35.000 New York Times had that when they published articles critical.

00:06:38.000 So this LGBT lobby group is basically keeping all companies in check so that they don't dare question this narrative.

00:06:45.000 And they've basically pushed and coerced them to include these trans models and spokesperson for their brands.

00:06:52.000 It's something to me.

00:06:54.000 So let's go through this other element, which I think is important.

00:06:54.000 It really is.

00:07:02.000 So your tweet here, because there's just so much in your tweet, which I think is great, it pushes millions via the human rights campaign.

00:07:10.000 Obviously, receives money from George Soros.

00:07:12.000 So TikTok promotes Dylan's videos heavily.

00:07:18.000 So tell us about that.

00:07:20.000 So Dylan Mulverny has got over 10 million TikTok followers, and every single one of his videos gets millions of millions, some of them tens of millions of views.

00:07:28.000 And that's no coincidence, Charlie.

00:07:30.000 We've seen since TikTok came about in 2018, suddenly gender ideology is everywhere.

00:07:36.000 Suddenly, kids in the classroom now want to transition.

00:07:39.000 So TikTok has a huge responsibility with this.

00:07:43.000 And the fact that TikTok pushes Dylan is not only China trying to destroy American society, trying to destroy the family unit, but this is also, you know, brands look at Dylan's views and they don't have morals.

00:07:56.000 No, Nike clearly don't have morals.

00:07:57.000 Bud Light clearly don't have morals.

00:07:59.000 They will literally hire anyone if they can tap into that market.

00:08:02.000 And right now, for brands for advertising, TikTok is the biggest market.

00:08:06.000 You have a big return on investment if you advertise with influencers on there.

00:08:10.000 So, you know, these companies see Dylan being successful.

00:08:13.000 They don't care what message Dylan sends.

00:08:15.000 They don't care that Dylan mocks with the business.

00:08:16.000 But that's the question.

00:08:18.000 I don't mean to cut you off, Ollie.

00:08:19.000 I'm sorry, we're just short on time.

00:08:20.000 But is it working?

00:08:21.000 Are they gaining customers because of this?

00:08:23.000 That's my, I'm curious.

00:08:24.000 And I don't know because I'm just in the permanent state of curiosity of the country I live in.

00:08:30.000 Because I obviously live in a bubble where I think this stuff is insane and I think it's wrong and it's evil and it's perverted and it's just terrible.

00:08:37.000 But are they losing customers?

00:08:39.000 Are they gaining market value?

00:08:40.000 I know that the stocks have gone down a little bit in some of these companies, but they seem to regain it rather quickly.

00:08:45.000 Is this a success outside of all the ideology, right?

00:08:48.000 Is this actually a profitable strategy?

00:08:52.000 Has it been proven to be one?

00:08:54.000 I mean, we saw Bud Light the other day lost $2 from their stocks, and basically Bud Light have not responded since April 1st.

00:09:03.000 They haven't posted on social media because I think they weren't expecting that backlash.

00:09:07.000 I think whoever was advising them, the vice president of Bud Light's marketing department used pronouns in their bio.

00:09:14.000 They were the ones behind this push.

00:09:16.000 I think it backfired terribly.

00:09:18.000 I don't think they're expecting that.

00:09:19.000 So I think now, you know, we've seen Kid Rock, Travis Tritz.

00:09:23.000 I don't think they expected that backlash.

00:09:24.000 So I think in the long run, they are going to lose a lot of customers.

00:09:28.000 And I mean, Bud Light, it doesn't even taste like beer.

00:09:30.000 So, you know, choose another brand anyway.

00:09:34.000 These other companies that embrace this, because I mean, it's just at some point, there's a shareholder duty, right?

00:09:41.000 I mean, does Nike see an increase in sales because of this?

00:09:45.000 Well, I certainly think Nike is going to lose a lot of female customers. 0.99

00:09:49.000 We're seeing female athletes calling for a boycott of Nike because this is the biggest offense to women. 1.00

00:09:54.000 So I think it's going to damage their brand in the long run.

00:09:58.000 But at the end of the day, many Gen Z customers, which these brands are trying to capture them in their market, so they use Dylan to get the young audience.

00:10:08.000 I think Generation Z are so indoctrinated with gender ideology.

00:10:11.000 I generally don't think they care.

00:10:13.000 And I think, you know, for them, they're more likely to buy a product if their favorite TikTok influencer promotes it.

00:10:19.000 So, you know, I think older categories of customers, the older demographic will boycott.

00:10:24.000 But I think Generation Z simply won't care because they're already indoctrinated with this kind of trans ideology.

00:10:30.000 Ali, tell our audience about your book.

00:10:32.000 Okay, so my book is basically detailing everything that's going on right now with woke culture, with gender ideology.

00:10:39.000 And I explore what is behind this recent trend that is pushing thousands of young people to transition.

00:10:45.000 I look at how these clinics, these lobby groups are operating, how different schools are trying to indoctrinate people using drag story hours and classes on pronouns and changing gender, and how we have Hollywood, we have TikTok, we have popular culture, shows like RuPaul, how all of these are taking effect and changing and indoctrinating huge numbers of young people, Generation Z.

00:11:10.000 So I look at all those issues and I look at how can parents regain their rights?

00:11:15.000 How can women get their rights back? 1.00

00:11:17.000 Because we saw just the other day Riley Gaines was attacked.

00:11:20.000 So my whole book covers all of these issues and how we can come together as a society to fix this current system that is causing so much harm to kids and so much harm to women.

00:11:31.000 So that's an interesting debate.

00:11:33.000 And it's actually going on right now on Twitter.

00:11:36.000 Is the question as someone who's gone through this madness, how old are you, Ollie?

00:11:42.000 So 33 now.

00:11:43.000 Okay.

00:11:44.000 So do you think the problem is specifically the trans ideology infecting children or the trans ideology more broadly or more generally, right?

00:11:57.000 And that's a question I would love you to weigh in on.

00:12:01.000 Definitely with children, you're getting even to more fundamental issues, right?

00:12:05.000 The blurring of line of innocence, right?

00:12:08.000 And not allowing children to go through puberty.

00:12:11.000 So that's to be agreed, right?

00:12:13.000 But, and it's an open question that's going to be robustly debated.

00:12:17.000 And I certainly have some strong opinions on it, but I haven't quite settled.

00:12:21.000 Is it the transgenderism thing in general?

00:12:26.000 Or should we just focus on it with children?

00:12:28.000 Does that question make sense?

00:12:31.000 Yeah, I think it's transgenderism in general because we see how it is destroying the rights of women. 1.00

00:12:37.000 We see how it is tearing families apart.

00:12:39.000 So, no, but what these LGBT lobby groups, people like Rachel Levine, they are targeting children because they want the next generation, Generation Z and kids younger than them, they want them to believe these radical things that women do not deserve rights, that men can just go into women's sports.

00:12:57.000 They want to indoctrinate all these kids.

00:12:59.000 So that's what they're doing right now.

00:13:00.000 It's a tactic of brainwashing, you know, very similar to what they did in the Soviet Union, indoctrinating a population. 0.74

00:13:06.000 So, but I think, you know, broadly, we're seeing these university students, and you know, you witnessed this firsthand when you had these radical trans activists trying to cancel your speech and using violence.

00:13:16.000 So, you know, it's the universities, I think, are breeding grounds at the moment.

00:13:20.000 These woke places like San Francisco State University, where these trans activists targeted Riley.

00:13:26.000 So I think, you know, it's seeping through all aspects of society.

00:13:29.000 And I think it's really only the older generations that are fighting back, you know, people that were born before social media, people that were born before all of this was taught in schools.

00:13:39.000 They're the ones fighting back.

00:13:40.000 But we need to get through to the young people, which is what I'm trying to do, and tell them, look, this is harmful.

00:13:45.000 This is destroying your lives and it's destroying the lives of others.

00:13:48.000 So I think transgenderism in general has become a very dangerous movement that is destroying society. 1.00

00:13:54.000 And we need to come up with a solution to fix this because we're seeing women violently attacked by these people.

00:13:59.000 Anyone that speaks up like you were doing a speech, they tried to cancel them.

00:14:04.000 And that's something I do want to talk about, Ali.

00:14:06.000 And we only have two minutes remaining.

00:14:08.000 What is it about the trans mafia? 0.95

00:14:11.000 And if you're offended by that, I apologize.

00:14:13.000 But that's really what they've become.

00:14:14.000 They become a group of violent actors that they're so willing to go to outrageous means of cancellation, of interruption, intimidation, harassment.

00:14:24.000 What is it about this group of people?

00:14:26.000 Well, you know, you accurately described it as a mafia.

00:14:29.000 I also call it, you know, the trans Taliban because they behave like men, the way the men that treat women in Afghanistan do. 0.96

00:14:35.000 You know, they beat women, they try to silence them. 1.00

00:14:38.000 So I, you know, I call them the trans Taliban because this ideology is causing so much harm and they've become an extreme group, Charlie. 0.97

00:14:46.000 Every time a woman does a speech at a university or at a rally, women's rally, these women are violently assaulted.

00:14:53.000 What happened in Nashville?

00:14:54.000 I'm sure we need to see the manifesto, but that person was radicalized within the last year when they became trans.

00:15:00.000 So we need to address this now.

00:15:02.000 It has become a radicalized movement.

00:15:04.000 You know, of course, there are people that are trans or LGBT.

00:15:07.000 They're just living their lives.

00:15:08.000 They're happy.

00:15:09.000 I bet that's not the issue, of course.

00:15:10.000 And you know it.

00:15:11.000 You and I both know it's not the issue, right?

00:15:13.000 Yes.

00:15:13.000 It's the tyranny.

00:15:14.000 It's the intimidation.

00:15:15.000 It's the, you must conform.

00:15:18.000 I'm going to use force to make you agree to certain pronoun usage, certain behavioral changes, certain erosion of institutions that are established for female and male sports, for example.

00:15:30.000 The issue is not what somebody is doing in their living room, okay?

00:15:34.000 Of some guy that goes and puts on a dress, right?

00:15:37.000 Or his own struggles with his imagination.

00:15:41.000 That is not the issue at hand here.

00:15:43.000 The issue is: should we reaccommodate society?

00:15:46.000 Should the ordinary have to stop our code of conduct and our behavior for a very, very radical minority.

00:15:53.000 Ali London, I think very highly of you.

00:15:55.000 Thank you for your courage.

00:15:57.000 Check out his book, Gender Madness, and come back soon.

00:16:00.000 Thank you.

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00:17:22.000 Welcome back, everybody.

00:17:23.000 We now have the Attorney General of West Virginia, Mr. Morrissey, with us, who to discuss their Supreme Court recent decision.

00:17:30.000 It's just hard to even grasp.

00:17:33.000 Mr. Morrissey, welcome back to the program.

00:17:35.000 I know you might have some big announcements soon.

00:17:36.000 That's not why you're here, though.

00:17:38.000 Tell us about the Supreme Court's decision.

00:17:39.000 It's really something.

00:17:41.000 Yeah, it's pretty interesting.

00:17:42.000 So, Charlie, first of all, thank you for having me back on.

00:17:46.000 I know a couple weeks ago, we talked about this very basic concept that biologically men are different than women.

00:17:53.000 And the West Virginia legislature, I think, in a smart move, drafted a law.

00:17:58.000 I think it was constitutional.

00:17:59.000 It was permissible.

00:18:01.000 And they said that biological males should not participate in women's sports.

00:18:05.000 We went through an entire process where the district court first slapped an injunction against the law.

00:18:11.000 But Charlie, we went to work.

00:18:13.000 We submitted all these documents.

00:18:15.000 We have an evidentiary record second to none, and we won.

00:18:19.000 We won at the district court level.

00:18:20.000 Then we went to the Court of Appeals, the Fourth Circuit.

00:18:23.000 They reversed.

00:18:24.000 They said that there should be an injunction in place.

00:18:27.000 So we thought, look, let's go to the U.S. Supreme Court.

00:18:29.000 Let's take it to the high court.

00:18:31.000 The U.S. Supreme Court, though, unfortunately, in a procedural setback last week, decided it was not going to lift the injunction.

00:18:41.000 So there's obviously an injunction now against the West Virginia law.

00:18:45.000 I think that defies common sense and basic fairness.

00:18:48.000 But I will say this to you, Charlie.

00:18:50.000 This was a decision on a procedural ground.

00:18:53.000 I think we're going to win on the merits.

00:18:54.000 I'm going to keep fighting.

00:18:56.000 So this organization wasn't on the merits then.

00:18:58.000 So can you explain what that means to our audience?

00:19:01.000 Absolutely.

00:19:02.000 So when we went through the district court process, that was on the merits, right?

00:19:06.000 So we went on the merits.

00:19:07.000 Then the Circuit Court of Appeals in the Fourth Circuit, they decided to reinstate the injunction.

00:19:13.000 And Charlie, they had no reasoning with their decision.

00:19:16.000 We thought that that was an error.

00:19:18.000 So we said, lift the injunction to allow us to go back to the Fourth Circuit and just argue the case on the merits.

00:19:25.000 And the Supreme Court said, no.

00:19:27.000 So there are different standards when you're trying to remove an injunction versus simply deciding on the merits.

00:19:33.000 And I think that the plaintiffs had argued that this wasn't an emergency.

00:19:37.000 We argued that, in fact, it was because it might encourage more people to pursue this pathway.

00:19:43.000 You're overturning a democratically elected law.

00:19:46.000 But they sent us back to the Fourth Circuit now, but it's procedural.

00:19:50.000 I still think we're the very clear favorite on the merits.

00:19:52.000 Well, I think that's important because I think some of the headlines were a little misleading then because people thought the Supreme Court, like Amy Coney Barrett and Neil Gorsuch, were weighing in on men participating in female sports.

00:20:04.000 But that is not the case in this regard, right?

00:20:06.000 No, I think that's right.

00:20:08.000 It's a procedural issue.

00:20:09.000 Now, look, would I have preferred to have won?

00:20:11.000 And I think we should have won yes.

00:20:12.000 We had Alito and Thomas join in the dissent.

00:20:16.000 But I still have a lot of hope that when this gets up on the merits, that people are going to say, Charlie, it is consistent with Title IX that was trying to advance women's athletic.

00:20:25.000 It is consistent with the Equal Protection Clause for the Constitution.

00:20:29.000 We're trying to help protect women, and that's certainly permissible for a state legislature.

00:20:34.000 So then what's the next step? 0.95

00:20:36.000 Another appeal?

00:20:37.000 Are you guys going to try to go back to the process?

00:20:41.000 Yeah, so here's what we're doing now.

00:20:42.000 We're going back through the Fourth Circuit.

00:20:45.000 We're finishing our submissions.

00:20:47.000 We'll be all done with our submissions by June, and then we'll have an oral argument.

00:20:51.000 And I bet whatever happens in the Fourth Circuit, there's a very, very meaningful chance that sometime next year, whoever loses at the Fourth Circuit is going to file again to go up to the U.S. Supreme Court.

00:21:03.000 But let me tell you one other thing, Charlie.

00:21:06.000 This issue seems to be animating everyone in America, and they've been coming after me.

00:21:11.000 The woke left has made me their target.

00:21:13.000 And I would just say, look, if you care about defending women's sports, I need your help. 0.65

00:21:18.000 Go to patrickmorrissey.com and chip in 10 bucks. 0.99

00:21:21.000 Help us out.

00:21:22.000 We're leading the national charge.

00:21:23.000 And not only on this issue, but the new federal regulation that was proposed last week as well, which is also terrible.

00:21:30.000 They're trying to deprive educational institutions of money if people don't agree with their woke ways.

00:21:36.000 And that's another battle in this incredibly important fight.

00:21:40.000 So just in closing, just remind our audience what you're running for and what the significance of it.

00:21:45.000 And then we'll go from there.

00:21:46.000 Well, I am now running for governor of the great state of West Virginia.

00:21:50.000 And if people like the work we've done taking on the woke left and defending women's sports, they're going to love what we're going to do as governor.

00:21:58.000 Chip in 10 bucks at patrickmorrissey.com and let's help us fight because we still need to win this fight and many others.

00:22:06.000 Mr. Morrissey, thank you so much.

00:22:07.000 Appreciate it.

00:22:08.000 Thank you.

00:22:09.000 Thank you, my friend.

00:22:10.000 So I want to talk Budweiser.

00:22:12.000 Last week, I know many of you guys saw the advertisement that came out, or it seemed to be a promotional campaign of Mulvaney getting this can from Bud Light.

00:22:24.000 And I was really, really confused.

00:22:28.000 I know many of you were too.

00:22:29.000 And I'm going to tell you what kind of was the basis of my confusion.

00:22:32.000 Obviously, this is a bad move by Budweiser, no doubt.

00:22:36.000 And I was so bothered by this, obviously sent out some tweets and we talked about it on the show.

00:22:41.000 And I decided to start asking what's going on and ask people that I know that are connected with the issue or at least kind of remotely to the company, like, guys, this doesn't seem right.

00:22:51.000 Let me tell you why, because, you know, kind of looking at the landscape of corporations, Coca-Cola, okay, I expect strange and weird things from Coca-Cola.

00:23:01.000 Coca-Cola paid a huge bucket of money to have Robin D'Angelo come in and talk about how to be an anti-racist.

00:23:10.000 Do you remember that the slideshow that came out of Coca-Cola where they said that we have to try to abolish whiteness or something of that variety?

00:23:17.000 Or how Nike is one of the worst, as we just talked about with Ali London.

00:23:20.000 Nike, who hired Colin Kaepernick or Disney, I mean, Disney, who comes out and they publish blatant and flagrant LGBTQ propaganda as actual content.

00:23:35.000 Expect it from them.

00:23:36.000 Or remember the major league baseball who comes out and they say, yeah, we're moving the all-star game out of Atlanta, which is heavily and significantly black and going to Denver. 0.90

00:23:46.000 But Anheuser-Busch, I'll be really honest, I was bothered by this because I, like many, I don't drink, and I know many of you drink or you don't, whatever, no, no moral judgment there.

00:23:55.000 I just personally don't drink, that you feel an attachment to Anheuser-Busch, that it's this Americana brand that started in this country.

00:24:05.000 And quite honestly, we thought of this brand as something that was supposed to be safe, as something that was off limits.

00:24:15.000 And so I decided to look into this because it just did not make any sense.

00:24:18.000 A very legendary brand across the board.

00:24:21.000 And it was like, my goodness, like you lose Coca-Cola and you lose Nike and you lose Disney.

00:24:26.000 And Budweiser or Bud Light or whatever, I mean, it was Bud Light, but obviously under Anheuser-Busch, held up its quality for quite some time.

00:24:34.000 And so I looked into this.

00:24:35.000 I started to ask around.

00:24:36.000 And based on all reports, it seems as if it was a mid-level management screw-up of somebody that sent out like a specific can.

00:24:45.000 It's not a commemorative can, is what I've been told by people associated with the company, that it wasn't being sold in stores or anything like that.

00:24:52.000 But I do think it's interesting because I said, okay, well, what are their politics, right?

00:24:56.000 Like, do they associate with us?

00:24:58.000 And so I looked into it.

00:24:58.000 Do they not?

00:24:59.000 In the 2022 cycle, Anheuser-Busch donated nearly half a million dollars to try to get JD Vance elected, nearly $464,000 to try to fire Nancy Pelosi, $250,000 to try to win the Senate seat with Eric Schmidt, $200,000 for just broad Republican efforts.

00:25:18.000 And they gave a little bit like a micron to Democrats.

00:25:21.000 It's okay.

00:25:21.000 So they generally through their contributions, and they say they give it because of taxes and for trade policy, but they're not like some of these other companies that have just gone through the other side completely.

00:25:33.000 And so it's a massive company.

00:25:36.000 And it's possible that a few wokeys slipped things through. 0.61

00:25:40.000 And it appears that that is the case.

00:25:43.000 And look, so they donate money to fire Pelosi.

00:25:48.000 They donate money to fire JD Vance.

00:25:50.000 It's not Google, right?

00:25:52.000 And I think that's why so many of us were bothered from this, because this idea of institutional capture is troublesome.

00:26:03.000 How many other brands have we just said, wow, that's what it means to be, you know, not Budweiser is what it means to be an American, but it's like an American brand.

00:26:14.000 We have an attachment to it.

00:26:15.000 We think highly of it.

00:26:17.000 It started in America.

00:26:19.000 Their advertisements were always very pro-American.

00:26:21.000 Ford, for example.

00:26:24.000 And based on what I've learned, this seems to be an error.

00:26:27.000 It seems a mistake.

00:26:28.000 One that has cost them some money.

00:26:30.000 And I hope that it's just a one-time thing and they turn away from it.

00:26:34.000 But they also don't seem to be overly political.

00:26:36.000 And that's something I do want to mention is that after January 6th, because I started asking around to some of the big kind of DC groups, I said, hey, you know, after January 6th, many people stopped giving money to Republican groups.

00:26:49.000 Anheuser-Busch continued.

00:26:50.000 It's like, okay, that's interesting.

00:26:53.000 And they just seem to want to be non-political at every turn.

00:26:57.000 That's what made this concerning.

00:26:59.000 So look, the evidence seems that this is a one-off screw-up.

00:27:02.000 I certainly hope it doesn't happen again.

00:27:05.000 I don't know anyone directly to the company.

00:27:07.000 I didn't talk to anyone directly.

00:27:08.000 They're just people that are associated kind of in the orbit.

00:27:11.000 I don't know their personal politics, but you look at this, Harley-Davidson, Levi Strauss.

00:27:18.000 I just made a list here.

00:27:19.000 PepsiCo.

00:27:21.000 You look at one after PepsiCo is gone completely and totally woke, not to mention the ones that have signed on to this trans corporate bathroom bill. 0.81

00:27:30.000 Anheuser-Busch refused to sign on to it.

00:27:32.000 Airbnb, Amazon, American Airlines, Apple, AT ⁇ T, Capital One, Comcast, Dell, Facebook, General Mills, General Motors, Google, Marriott, MasterCard, Microsoft, Nike T-Mobile, Toyota, Walt Disney, Wells, Fargo, Yahoo, sign on to that letter.

00:27:49.000 And so I guess we'll find out, right, as time proceeds.

00:27:54.000 But if they're donating money to go get JD Vance elected and to go get Nancy Pelosi fired, it is possible.

00:28:00.000 It is conceivable you can have one slip through.

00:28:04.000 So we'll find out.

00:28:05.000 And by the way, if we found out throughout our research, because I always want to give you the truth, that these people were super woke and they hate the country, then I would tell you that, obviously.

00:28:15.000 But it would be a tragedy to lose Anheuser-Busch to the wokies, wouldn't it? 1.00

00:28:19.000 So I hope a lesson is learned here.

00:28:20.000 I hope that people are held accountable, whatever that looks like.

00:28:22.000 Because I was bothered by this.

00:28:24.000 We got so many emails about it.

00:28:24.000 I know you were too.

00:28:26.000 Email after email after email.

00:28:29.000 Because I wanted to find out what the heck was going on, that another American brand that we care so much about.

00:28:36.000 But it doesn't seem, at least in this case, that that's the entire picture.

00:28:40.000 And I certainly hope that's true.

00:28:42.000 Because I, for one, I'm really sick of losing some of the institutions to the radical woke left.

00:28:48.000 Email us freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:28:51.000 I want to get to a question here.

00:28:53.000 Charlie, are you going to talk more about the Restrict Act?

00:28:56.000 I'm very worried about it.

00:28:57.000 In fact, yes, we're in touch with a senator's office who is a co-sponsor of the Restrict Act.

00:29:03.000 And if you are interested in that, you're going to want to see that.

00:29:08.000 It's going to be amazing.

00:29:09.000 One of the co-sponsors might come on the program to defend the Restrict Act, the widespread censorship campaign, which is one of the worst pieces of legislation I have seen in recent memory.

00:29:18.000 And so producer Andrew is in the final stages to try to secure that.

00:29:20.000 I'm not going to tell you what, Senator, it is.

00:29:23.000 Our policy remains.

00:29:24.000 We'll allow you to talk uninterrupted, make the case, whether you're running for president, you're a local congressperson.

00:29:29.000 Tell us why we need a Patriot Act 2.0, a new censorship regime given to the Secretary of Commerce, an unelected, unknown bureaucrat, to be able to silence our speech.

00:29:40.000 We're just curious.

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00:30:50.000 I don't think people realize this because we're getting a lot of emails on Budweiser.

00:30:55.000 PlayCut 38.

00:30:56.000 This is actually like an anti-beta mail advertisement.

00:31:02.000 This is actually a good advertisement from Bud Light.

00:31:06.000 Play cut 38.

00:31:37.000 So one email here.

00:31:39.000 Charlie, you're trying to say that Budweiser is actually political?

00:31:42.000 No, I actually think they're not political, to be honest.

00:31:44.000 Like, I think that they're just trying to do their job and that this was a one-time mix-up and mess up.

00:31:49.000 That's what I'm trying to say.

00:31:50.000 Paul from Kansas is asking that.

00:31:52.000 I think that they do what's best for their own interest, and that's actually what we want.

00:31:56.000 We actually want a company that provides a service and is not trying to be involved in every social cause.

00:32:02.000 And quite honestly, there are so many other companies to hit, like Coca-Cola that actually lobbies for changing in Georgia voting laws or Nike.

00:32:13.000 I mean, it seems as if this is just kind of a marketing person that wanted to change the company single-handedly.

00:32:20.000 It's against the fiber and the DNA of how Budweiser is operated.

00:32:23.000 So, no, I actually don't think that they're political.

00:32:25.000 I think that they make beer, and that's what they've always done.

00:32:30.000 So, to answer that question, okay, I want to play another piece of tape here.

00:32:35.000 Let's go to this one.

00:32:37.000 I've been meaning to get to this story, but we've had so many other things going on here.

00:32:43.000 There's a lot going on with the Pentagon leaks.

00:32:46.000 We're going to build out that story in greater and further detail tomorrow as it kind of still comes available.

00:32:53.000 But I think it's really interesting.

00:32:56.000 John Kirby says leaking classified information has no business on the front page of newspapers or on television.

00:33:02.000 Now, tax returns are not necessarily classified, but they are private and confidential.

00:33:07.000 Remember when the New York Times published Donald Trump's tax returns right before the 2020 election?

00:33:11.000 People forget about that.

00:33:12.000 Or how about Supreme Court justice rulings that are leaked preemptively?

00:33:17.000 Who was arrested for that?

00:33:18.000 Play cut 27.

00:33:20.000 Again, without confirming the validity of the documents, this is information that has no business in the public domain.

00:33:27.000 It has no business, if you don't mind me saying, on the pages of front pages of newspapers or on television.

00:33:35.000 It is not intended for public consumption and it should not be out there.

00:33:40.000 So they're talking about how it's not clear for public consumption.

00:33:43.000 That's all they do is reward leaks that fit their narrative.

00:33:49.000 The Supreme Court leaks, they leak a draft of an opinion of Roe versus Wade.

00:33:54.000 Now, why did that matter?

00:33:55.000 It allowed the left-wing donors and activist groups an opportunity ahead of the midterms to be able to ramp up and raise money.

00:34:06.000 They had a head start.

00:34:07.000 They had a 45-day head start heading into the midterms to make abortion the number one issue heading into the November 2022 midterms.

00:34:17.000 Was anybody arrested for that?

00:34:20.000 Was anybody at the IRS arrested for leaking Donald Trump's tax returns?

00:34:24.000 Of course not.

00:34:26.000 Now, they're fine with leaks as long as they challenge the leaders they don't like.

00:34:31.000 How about another one for you?

00:34:33.000 The person who listened and leaked the contents of Donald Trump's perfectly fine phone call with Zelensky.

00:34:42.000 Remember that?

00:34:43.000 The entire impeachment campaign was built around that.

00:34:48.000 Nothing is sacrosanct or private when it comes to conservative world.

00:34:53.000 Everything is off limits.

00:34:54.000 Leak it all.

00:34:55.000 Nothing is holy.

00:34:56.000 Nothing is private.

00:34:57.000 But everything is private when it comes to Democrats.

00:35:00.000 Everything.

00:35:01.000 No leaking of information, no cross-examination, none of that.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - April 12, 2023

Dylan Mulvaney, Face of Corporate America? with Oli London and West Virginia AG Morrisey

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