The Charlie Kirk Show - Eat Less Chikin? with Citizen Kane and Rep. Dan Bishop

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00:00:01.000 Today at the Charlie Kirk Show, Citizen Kane joins us to talk debt ceiling and corporate boycotts.

00:00:06.000 And also, Congressman Dan Bishop joins the program to voice his opposition to the debt ceiling bill.

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00:01:23.000 Welcome back, everybody.

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00:01:26.000 Receiving lots of emails on the Chick-fil-A thing.

00:01:28.000 We have Congressman Dan Bishop in just a second.

00:01:30.000 There was one other point I wanted to reemphasize.

00:01:32.000 We're going to do a series of podcasts explaining the treachery of DEI.

00:01:38.000 Diversity, equity, inclusion is a Marxist project.

00:01:41.000 It comes from Marxist power dynamics.

00:01:44.000 You do not have to apologize for the color of your skin.

00:01:46.000 Dividing people based on the color of their skin, like black-only dormitories or black-only graduation ceremonies, is abhorrent and it's wrong.

00:01:53.000 One of our team members wrote this in the chat.

00:01:56.000 He said, if you want to wash somebody's feet or shine their shoes, that's good Christian behavior.

00:02:00.000 But to do it because of a race or a tribe or a sect or immutable characteristics, acting as a representative of your own race because of melanin content, it's abhorrent and it's against the truth of the gospel.

00:02:15.000 So make your own decisions with Chick-fil-A.

00:02:17.000 I personally, some people say, oh, Charlie, you're being unfair.

00:02:19.000 It's too harsh.

00:02:21.000 I hold organizations, companies that purport to be on our side to a higher standard than Whole Foods or even Target.

00:02:34.000 If you have earned the trust of the public by being a Christian conservative company, then I'm going to hold you to a higher standard than Starbucks.

00:02:45.000 Be clear about your values, and having a DEI director or mission statement, I think, is inconsistent.

00:02:52.000 Congressman Dan Bishop, you're from the South, Congressman, really quick.

00:02:56.000 What's your thoughts on the Chick-fil-A situation?

00:02:59.000 I totally agree with what you said, and I think the principle you just outlined probably has some applicability to the subject we're going to discuss.

00:03:07.000 Perfect.

00:03:07.000 But you're absolutely right.

00:03:09.000 We cannot change or depart.

00:03:12.000 In fact, that's where we've got to certainly stand up for the principle and the truth where the abhorrent conduct comes from a putative ally, someone we've relied on.

00:03:23.000 It's very disappointing, but you cannot make it better by papering it over and letting it roll.

00:03:29.000 Ride that segue.

00:03:30.000 Connect it straight to the topic we're here to talk about.

00:03:33.000 So we're talking about the debt ceiling bill that is on the floor today.

00:03:38.000 And I've been very outfront and very critical of it and done everything I could to bring condemnation down upon it because it violates every principle that we should stand for.

00:03:53.000 The biggest problem, frankly, is that it has been advocated for and sold by untruths across the board, cosmetic provisions contained therein sold as being good gets for the Republicans that are fake.

00:04:15.000 And then worst of, you know, as bad, but then gets to be a detail of the bill.

00:04:22.000 Very, very important one, biggest one of all is instead of where you had Republicans come together with 218 votes, they said we couldn't do that, pass a bill on the floor.

00:04:30.000 I'm not saying that had to be the bill, but you got all these conservatives to agree in response to significant cuts, changing the direction of government, we would agree to put our, you know, cast a vote in favor of letting the debt ceiling rise another trillion and a half.

00:04:44.000 Kevin McCarthy in the conference last night said it was his call to take that out another year with an unlimited amount over that two-year period, probably going to be $4 trillion, maybe more, $5 or $6 trillion of additional debt on our children and grandchildren.

00:05:02.000 And he said he made that.

00:05:03.000 I mean, I was, that one just sort of left me speechless in conference last night.

00:05:07.000 He said he made that call because he thought that Biden would be more aggressive with demands for tax increases and other liberal crazy ideas if they had another negotiation next year as we otherwise had anticipated.

00:05:22.000 I still don't know what to make of that, except that it's just, I can't believe it.

00:05:28.000 So, Congressman, look, we're reading the bill and the legislative details.

00:05:34.000 It takes a lot of time.

00:05:35.000 And so I want you to address some of the talking points that are being disseminated by House leadership, right?

00:05:42.000 They say that it defunds the IRS through a billion dollars and deprives them of it this year.

00:05:48.000 And I know that there's huge disagreement there.

00:05:51.000 They say this is a $2 trillion cut.

00:05:54.000 So what are we missing here?

00:05:55.000 Because you got Thomas Massey, who I really love, and Marjorie Taylor Greene and Jim Jordan.

00:06:01.000 And again, we're here.

00:06:02.000 There's some things that I will fully acknowledge I'm an expert on.

00:06:05.000 There's some things I'm not an expert on.

00:06:07.000 And so I just see two different universes playing out here.

00:06:10.000 So what is the truth?

00:06:11.000 And help me understand why there's almost these completely opposite narratives stemming from the House conference on this bill.

00:06:20.000 And I'm going to do it the best I can understand it, Charlie, because it left me, but I'm going to be specific and let me take one at a time.

00:06:27.000 And let me begin it before I do it, link it back to what you just said about the Chick-fil-A situation.

00:06:32.000 If we incinerate our credibility as Republicans by our leadership coming out and no two ways about it, lying about provisions that are in there that aren't, how can you expect people out there, you represent, you have viewers and people who look to you for information.

00:06:50.000 If you can't discern it, and I can't discern, well, I can discern it because I've read the bill.

00:06:55.000 But, you know, what are we to make?

00:06:58.000 What are our supporters supposed to make of that?

00:06:59.000 Take the IRS thing.

00:07:01.000 They said, Kevin said when he entered the same, he said, we're taking a billion nine from the IRS, and that nixes their staffing activity for fiscal year 2023 in terms of adding new agents.

00:07:15.000 Remember, you have to know that they got an $80 billion appropriation.

00:07:19.000 It lasts through 2031.

00:07:20.000 They can spend it anytime they want to.

00:07:22.000 But what we were told was they had countered that for at least the year fiscal year 2023.

00:07:29.000 Kevin said, and we didn't get it all.

00:07:32.000 We couldn't get it all, but we can fight again next year on next year's.

00:07:35.000 Well, Charlie, that's just not true.

00:07:37.000 There's one paragraph in the bill that addresses this.

00:07:39.000 The figure is not $1.9 billion.

00:07:41.000 It's $1.4, but that's kind of just, frankly, a minor point, if you think $500 million.

00:07:47.000 So they only took $1.4 billion out of the entire appropriation of $80 billion, leaving $78.6 billion.

00:07:54.000 There's nothing else in the language that says they can't hire more IRS agents in fiscal year 2023.

00:08:02.000 Now, Garrett Graves, McCarthy's negotiator from the podium in conference last night, said, I can tell you they haven't started hiring people.

00:08:10.000 They're not going to hire people.

00:08:12.000 It's not in the language of the bill.

00:08:15.000 So the question then is begged, is this a handshake deal with the Biden administration?

00:08:21.000 Is that what we're doing?

00:08:22.000 How could that so and those things are repeated over and over?

00:08:27.000 Whatever we said about, I think the CBO first said $2.1 trillion in savings, then they got $1.3 trillion when they looked at it again.

00:08:34.000 But those savings numbers that are big, they're predicated on not legislative caps, legislative caps for two years, but then four more years of unenforceable targets.

00:08:45.000 And understand the legislative caps, we've done this before.

00:08:49.000 They were blown by agreement of Congress, because one Congress can't bind a future Congress.

00:08:54.000 They were dispensed with in years 2011 through 2021, every fiscal year except for one.

00:09:02.000 So to go sell that and say we really have turned the corner and we're going to have real cuts in government.

00:09:10.000 And if I go, you don't have enough time for me to do it because term after term after term, it is exactly the same.

00:09:18.000 Not one thing in there, with the possible exception of permitting improvements, which I can't speak to in great detail.

00:09:25.000 There's not one other thing in there that is true to what's been represented that we get.

00:09:30.000 I mean, I'm getting so many text messages and phone calls from a lot of different people and lawmakers, and I just listen, right?

00:09:36.000 Because you have to know, you know, you have to know what you know and keep the main thing the main thing.

00:09:42.000 Here's what I do know, the debt is an existential crisis to our country.

00:09:46.000 The amount we're spending is reckless.

00:09:48.000 The fiscal discipline has been completely thrown out the window.

00:09:50.000 I do know for a fact that Warhawks and the Senate especially got in the way of us making any changes to the defense budget, which I think was a major mistake and a missed opportunity.

00:10:01.000 And so I want to talk about what is the legislative future here.

00:10:05.000 And if you believe this is one of the defining votes, Steve Bannon believes that this will go down in the memory of kind of conservative lore as an Obamacare vote.

00:10:16.000 That could be true, or it could just be another one of these votes where we say, what was that, the Omna What bill of 2018?

00:10:22.000 So I want to ask you about it, or is it just going to be another vote where people roll their eyes and cynicism increases?

00:10:28.000 Here's my macro concern based on the emails I'm receiving.

00:10:31.000 I'm afraid this is going to deteriorate base turnout, volunteerism, and activism.

00:10:36.000 Congressman Bishop, there were some rumors going online.

00:10:39.000 I just want to hear from you.

00:10:40.000 Motion to vacate the chair.

00:10:41.000 Is that something you're prepared to proceed with?

00:10:44.000 What I said is it is inescapable to me that there must be a motion to vacate the chair.

00:10:50.000 And that's what I said.

00:10:51.000 I don't do that out of impulse, would never do it by myself and not do it to express some anger or something. 0.98

00:10:56.000 You see those kinds of moves up here are really genuinely dumb.

00:10:59.000 But what it does say is this is a fundamental breach of the agreement that we reached in January that has been successful in unifying the Republican Party. 0.84

00:11:07.000 That's the worst thing of all about this whole situation is that the Speaker decided to go in and blow up the unity of the Republican Conference.

00:11:14.000 It was unnecessary, or at least at that point it was unnecessary.

00:11:17.000 All avenues had not been exhausted.

00:11:20.000 And to the point that I made earlier, truth is essential.

00:11:23.000 You asked the question before the break.

00:11:25.000 Do we see the affinity for the Republican Party of Republican voters more challenge to disintegrate to nothing?

00:11:33.000 That is the challenge.

00:11:35.000 That's the issue.

00:11:36.000 Congressman, I've received 5,000 emails, and there is certainly a perception that there's a disconnect between the spending discipline that people are now exercising.

00:11:45.000 They're taking, let's just say, shorter road trips, less vacations.

00:11:50.000 They are shrinking their family budgets right now.

00:11:53.000 That is the attitude amongst moderate, ordinary, conservative America.

00:11:56.000 I know you see that in North Carolina right now.

00:11:59.000 And I think what they want is a parallel attitude in their government.

00:12:06.000 The last thing that they want to see is people telling us how great we're moving in a certain direction while we are simultaneously locking in the higher-level post-COVID bureaucracy by the woke and weaponized bureaucracy.

00:12:23.000 That spending continuing a pace, and someone to say this is the best thing that's happened is historic.

00:12:29.000 No, what's historic is that, you know, in the New Deal, we had the massive increase in government.

00:12:34.000 We've seen another massive increase coming out of COVID, and this locks it in.

00:12:39.000 And so I do, you asked the question, what Steve Bannon said.

00:12:43.000 I definitely believe this is a defining vote, but obviously, you know, I want to say that I'm in the middle of all this up here, and it often things look that way, and you judge them differently as time passes.

00:12:54.000 But given the things that I've articulated, and everybody will get mad at me for saying them, and they circle the wagons tighter and insist they're going to vote for the thing more.

00:13:05.000 That's a reflex up here.

00:13:07.000 But nobody can refute me point for point.

00:13:12.000 Speaker Gingrich tried it on Fox or on Hannity radio and then TV last night.

00:13:18.000 The emperor has no clothes on this bill.

00:13:22.000 Just one, I'm sorry to interrupt, Congressman.

00:13:23.000 We're short on time.

00:13:24.000 And this is where I'm, Speaker Gingrich, who I really respect, says this is a massive win.

00:13:28.000 And so I feel as if, you know, we have Neptune and Saturn here, and there's a lot of difference between the two of different universes that are going on.

00:13:36.000 So just closing argument for the audience, because Wall Street Journal is coming out in favor of this.

00:13:41.000 New York Post is coming out in favor of this.

00:13:43.000 So just, I'm sure it must animate you and frustrate you, right?

00:13:48.000 And again, our position on this program is keep the main thing, the main thing, know what you know, and then listen to the experts.

00:13:54.000 Congressman, final thoughts, 30 seconds remaining.

00:13:56.000 Giving you, and two quick examples.

00:13:58.000 They say we got work requirements and food stamps and TANF.

00:14:03.000 The CDO said last night, no, we're going to spend more because we created new three new exemptions to the work requirements that will overwhelm everything.

00:14:09.000 That's false.

00:14:11.000 We said that there's a new administrative pay code that's going to restrict the regulatory advance, but the Biden administration can waive it, and they said you can't challenge it in court.

00:14:20.000 Everything in there is a falsehood.

00:14:22.000 That is a tremendous, we are incinerating our own credibility.

00:14:25.000 That is the last thing that we can afford to do.

00:14:28.000 Congressman Dan Bishop, thank you so much.

00:14:30.000 The vote is scheduled tonight at 8 p.m. Eastern.

00:14:35.000 We will be watching with great curiosity.

00:14:37.000 Congressman, thank you so much.

00:14:39.000 Appreciate it.

00:14:43.000 Hey, everybody.

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00:15:03.000 Look, when you introduce a girl to her baby by providing an ultrasound, you're giving her the truth at the most critical and important time in her life.

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00:16:19.000 Okay.

00:16:20.000 Joining us now is Citizen Kane.

00:16:22.000 Do we have Citizen Kane?

00:16:24.000 The man, the myth, the legend.

00:16:25.000 Now, Citizen Kane, I would put you on the spot.

00:16:28.000 Coffee with cream or no cream?

00:16:29.000 What do you say?

00:16:31.000 All right.

00:16:32.000 So I quit coffee 30 years ago when I was working for Alex Brown and sons in Baltimore, but heavy cream and heavy sugar.

00:16:40.000 That's the right answer.

00:16:41.000 You haven't had a cup of coffee in 30 years?

00:16:44.000 I've had a 14-hour drive to a Minnesota wedding.

00:16:47.000 I think I may have sucked down a few coffees, but probably, you know, whatever.

00:16:53.000 I get my caffeine from tea.

00:16:56.000 No, no, that's very smart.

00:16:57.000 No, that's what I should do.

00:16:59.000 All right.

00:17:00.000 So, Kane, I'm looking at the stack, Citizen Kane, citizenfreepress.com.

00:17:06.000 I love the stack.

00:17:07.000 It is the new Drudge.

00:17:08.000 By the way, Drudge has just been attacking us like crazy.

00:17:10.000 Do you have any top-line thoughts on that, Kane?

00:17:12.000 By the way, Drudge has been obsessed with me the last couple of days in Turning Point USA.

00:17:17.000 Is there a reason for that, you think?

00:17:19.000 You're a threat.

00:17:20.000 You know, I noticed it.

00:17:22.000 The first one was seven days ago or so, and it was Drudge twisting a headline when you talked about people boycotting Target with force.

00:17:34.000 I think you talked about financial force.

00:17:37.000 Drudge left the word financial out of his headline, but he had a nice photo of you.

00:17:43.000 And the Mediaite story, you know, the word financial was in the Mediate story, but they went along with Drudge's game.

00:17:50.000 And then, and then two or three days later, you know, a similar thing happened.

00:17:55.000 So obviously, you know, Drudge reads Citizen Free Press.

00:17:58.000 He gets headlines, he gets stories, substacks, certain things that I post that he wouldn't see anywhere else.

00:18:05.000 And he also was including us in his traffic chart back when he was doing them.

00:18:09.000 So I know he reads the site.

00:18:11.000 So he sees your show on live every day.

00:18:13.000 So, you know, I feel like that's one of the things that CP, you know, that Citizen Free Press does secretly is bring things to the attention of Matt Drudge.

00:18:23.000 That is, that's an accurate hypothesis.

00:18:26.000 Turning point is really becoming a big player in this space.

00:18:29.000 All right.

00:18:29.000 So, Kane, I really want to talk here because you have a stack on all this.

00:18:32.000 What is CFP Nation, the grassroots, the MAGA base, saying about the debt ceiling debate and the looming debt ceiling bill tonight at 8 p.m. Eastern?

00:18:41.000 They're livid.

00:18:42.000 They're furious.

00:18:43.000 You know, I'll add really quickly: I've got a link up to the running United States debt clock.

00:18:49.000 So every 24 seconds, we're adding a million dollars to the national debt.

00:18:54.000 So in this 10 or 15-minute discussion, you and I will have, that's going to be 25 or 30 million.

00:19:01.000 And that's, you know, I say that because that is why people are livid.

00:19:05.000 You know, as you know, your audience, my audience, they're super clued in.

00:19:09.000 They're super intelligent.

00:19:10.000 They know.

00:19:10.000 They're an absorbable amount of wisdom.

00:19:11.000 I got to tell you.

00:19:12.000 I mean, the wisdom in our audience, keep going, Kane.

00:19:15.000 These are better read than people that do this for a living.

00:19:18.000 Yeah, well, what it is is they've discovered us, right?

00:19:21.000 They found CFP.

00:19:22.000 They found Charlie Kirk.

00:19:23.000 They found War Room because these are the shows that are getting into it every single day.

00:19:26.000 And that's the audience we both had.

00:19:28.000 So I've got, so my audience knows everything that's going on.

00:19:32.000 They know the full list of who's going to vote no.

00:19:34.000 They realize that it passed 7.6 last night out of the rules committee.

00:19:38.000 They're upset with Massey.

00:19:40.000 They're upset with, you know, they're upset with a lot of people.

00:19:43.000 But to answer your question, they are livid.

00:19:45.000 They're furious because to them, it's about the debt.

00:19:48.000 And anytime you discuss spending cuts, when we know that these spending cuts are actually just reductions in future growth, right?

00:19:56.000 Nothing is really a spending cut.

00:19:58.000 And I pulled up on Wikipedia because this reminded me of what happened in 2008 when we had the bailout.

00:20:05.000 The budget in 2008 was about 2.8 or 2.9 trillion.

00:20:09.000 We had the $700 billion bank bailout, right?

00:20:12.000 So we jumped to 3.5 and 3.6.

00:20:15.000 And the same thing happened as it's happening now, meaning they decided, okay, that's the new baseline.

00:20:21.000 So 3.6 trillion was the new baseline starting in 2009, even though that was a one-year 25% jump in the federal budget.

00:20:31.000 And the same thing has happened here.

00:20:32.000 So you wouldn't believe if you pull up the budget on Wikipedia, in 2016, the federal budget was $4 trillion.

00:20:40.000 It was $4.2 trillion the next year under Trump, $4.1 trillion, then $4.4.

00:20:46.000 Then in 2020, because of COVID, it jumped to 6.5 trillion.

00:20:51.000 So that is essentially, you know, that's what Chip Roy is screaming about.

00:20:54.000 That's what we're pissed off about.

00:20:56.000 How did the federal budget suddenly grow 50%?

00:20:58.000 And that is the new baseline.

00:21:01.000 So, Kane, here's an element I want to explore with you, which I'm constantly trying to push back against: cynicism and disengagement, cynicism and disengagement.

00:21:11.000 And I think you agree, Kane.

00:21:12.000 We cannot stop getting involved, engaged, activism, voting, regardless of some of the disagreements or disappointments.

00:21:21.000 Kane, are you seeing that in the grassroots?

00:21:22.000 Are you seeing chatter of, I'm no longer going to be involved?

00:21:27.000 I'm no longer going to be engaged.

00:21:29.000 I'm not going to donate.

00:21:30.000 What's the point in voting?

00:21:32.000 I'm starting to see that bubble up, Kane, and it's starting to really concern me on a serious and material level.

00:21:38.000 Yeah, you asked me a really good question several appearances ago, asking if it was 10%, if it was 20% of the base.

00:21:45.000 There's, you know, there's no doubt people are angry.

00:21:48.000 They feel they feel abandoned, and they, and a certain element, a certain part of this group doesn't want to participate.

00:21:55.000 But that's why it's, you know, that's our role.

00:21:58.000 That's Bannon's role, your role, my role.

00:22:00.000 We got to keep, we got to keep people looking forward and focusing on, you know, if we don't want something like this to happen again, let's have all three, you know, let's control all three chambers.

00:22:10.000 Let's have the House, the Senate, and the presidency.

00:22:13.000 So, so, yes, people are disillusioned.

00:22:16.000 It's going to be an issue for us, but we just have to stay positive.

00:22:20.000 That's how I look at it.

00:22:21.000 So, let's just start to acknowledge that this thing's probably going to pass.

00:22:26.000 Is that correct, Kane?

00:22:27.000 It looks like that.

00:22:28.000 So, and we just got an email right here: Charlie, I've never been so demoralized.

00:22:33.000 I knocked on thousands of doors.

00:22:35.000 I donated the most money I could.

00:22:37.000 I prayed and I fasted.

00:22:38.000 And I feel like we're always just slipping through the cracks.

00:22:42.000 So, Kane, then how is the proper way to respond?

00:22:47.000 The proper way to respond, it's how I look at life, man.

00:22:51.000 You feel sorry for yourself for an hour and then you get yourself off the mat and figure out how you can solve this.

00:23:00.000 And we've discussed it.

00:23:01.000 I linked to a tweet of yours.

00:23:04.000 It was actually someone commenting on a tweet of yours, but it's about the ground operation for 2024.

00:23:09.000 For me, that's immediately where my mind goes.

00:23:12.000 Okay, how do we win?

00:23:13.000 You know, the next elections are 2024.

00:23:15.000 So, how do we win those?

00:23:16.000 And we went up through ballot harvesting and doing all of the things that the Democrats have done and doing things that Harmit Dylan did very successfully in California in the last two cycles.

00:23:28.000 So, whatever, I'm an optimist.

00:23:30.000 So, I always jump to what we can do to win.

00:23:33.000 We have to always go towards our agency, our ability to change things.

00:23:36.000 Kane, are you?

00:23:38.000 I mean, we're doing what we can at turning point action.

00:23:39.000 We are going to really come with a public rollout, articulating our ballot chasing.

00:23:45.000 We're going to do what we can do.

00:23:46.000 My question, though, Kane, is: are you seeing the RNC or other groups start to invest in that?

00:23:52.000 Because here's my concern, Kane.

00:23:53.000 We've talked about it before.

00:23:54.000 Now, DeSantis is in, Tim Scott is in.

00:23:56.000 This is going to be a $1 billion primary, almost guaranteed.

00:24:00.000 A $1 billion primary.

00:24:03.000 Are we even spending a fraction on that on margin-determinative infrastructure?

00:24:10.000 Yeah, think about it.

00:24:11.000 Add the Zuckerbucks and all the other left-wing grassroots initiatives from the last election, and it's probably less than a billion dollars.

00:24:19.000 So, and we both know that's how they won, right?

00:24:23.000 In those swing states, those grassroots operations were how they won.

00:24:27.000 So, what is the RNC doing?

00:24:30.000 Well, as I said last time I was on your show, their big creation is a fact-checking website for Joe Biden.

00:24:37.000 So, I think the RNC is a joke.

00:24:39.000 Your plan, you know, it's ambitious.

00:24:41.000 It's $100 million.

00:24:43.000 I know you guys are going to be rolling it out, you know, in a much bigger way this summer and this fall.

00:24:48.000 But this is where the money has to go.

00:24:52.000 We need organizations with boots on the ground in about 80 counties, right?

00:24:57.000 Three or four swing states, 80 counties, and we can win this thing.

00:25:01.000 And 100 million is, you know, to the many Republican, conservative billionaires out there, not mentioning you, Bernie Marcus, but to the many billionaires out there, you know, this is, you want to save the country for your grandchildren?

00:25:17.000 This is the best investment you can make.

00:25:20.000 And it is going, you're chasing ballots, doing the early voting thing.

00:25:25.000 You think about it, we're falling short.

00:25:27.000 I use this language.

00:25:28.000 I'm very specific with my vocabulary.

00:25:30.000 We are falling short: 8,000 ballots, 10,000 ballots, 12,000 ballots.

00:25:36.000 And we are doing zero early voting.

00:25:37.000 We're doing zero.

00:25:38.000 Imagine what we could do in Arizona, Georgia, Wisconsin with even a little bit of this investment.

00:25:43.000 We need 1,000 Scott Presslers. 0.82

00:25:46.000 Let me say it again.

00:25:47.000 We need 1,000 Scott Presslers. 0.82

00:25:51.000 I want the money to be spent on Scott Presslers, not Ron DeSantis versus Donald Trump television advertisements.

00:25:57.000 1,000 Scott Presslers.

00:26:00.000 We're going to waste $1 billion on a primary where $100 million, $50 million, whatever could make the difference.

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00:27:14.000 So, Kane, I have a theory.

00:27:17.000 I have a hypothesis that our base feels so betrayed by their leaders and by the uniparty that they're understandably now looking for places where they can feel that they're making a difference, that they're exercising a check-in balance.

00:27:36.000 For example, Target, Bud Light, what's going on right now with Chick-fil-A?

00:27:44.000 Are you seeing that right now in your comments, Kane?

00:27:47.000 Are you seeing that with your audience?

00:27:49.000 A kind of out of nowhere desire to all of a sudden hold bad companies accountable and reward good ones?

00:27:57.000 Yes, and success breeds success.

00:27:59.000 You know, this is the Bud Light thing was the first time we really, you know, had some, well, the first time we had success sort of in the boycott arena.

00:28:09.000 And Target has followed right on the heels.

00:28:12.000 And, you know, they're in full retreat.

00:28:14.000 I've been linking to stuff showing that they're removing these homosexual-friendly displays, transgender-friendly displays from stores, not just in the South now. 0.94

00:28:26.000 And the stock price, right?

00:28:28.000 It's at a 52-week low.

00:28:29.000 So it's an area we're winning.

00:28:30.000 And just look at right now on Drudge, which I'm sure you've seen.

00:28:33.000 He's his lead headline or lead story.

00:28:36.000 It's five headlines talking about how gay activists are having to, you know, sort of go back to the books and figure out a new way because they're losing these corporate battles.

00:28:46.000 And so, yeah, it's nice to get a win there.

00:28:49.000 And, you know, I think we'll keep it up.

00:28:53.000 I don't see anything.

00:28:54.000 You know, look, again, once you get a taste of success and you get sites like mine talking every week, you know, Bud Light sales were down 30% this week.

00:29:01.000 And just so people understand that, when they keep seeing those figures, 24, 26, 30, what it is is these are every week you're getting a year-over-year comparison.

00:29:10.000 So when I put up the headline yesterday, down 30%, that is versus sales a year ago.

00:29:15.000 And the last part of this that a beer distributor on my site added is a lot of these sales for Bud Light are booked automatically to stadiums, to events.

00:29:24.000 And so the real number for actual, you know, can sales and bottle sales is likely much worse than down 30%.

00:29:31.000 And before I throw it back to you, I missed, I wanted to comment in your last section. 0.74

00:29:36.000 You made such a great point about let's waste a million, you know, a billion dollars on stupid television ads where Republicans and really fringe Republicans are attacking each other. 0.64

00:29:44.000 Let's let's save $100 billion to actually win. 0.82

00:29:47.000 So Larry Ellison, you know, let's mention him really quickly.

00:29:51.000 He's going to give $60 million to Tim Scott.

00:29:53.000 Tim Scott is a great individual.

00:29:55.000 I love the guy.

00:29:56.000 I think he's a great representative for our party, but he's never going to, he's not going to win.

00:30:01.000 And that's $60 million wasted.

00:30:02.000 So that's 30, you know, Ellison should at least cut his ego in half and cut that donation in half and send the other 30 million to TPUSA's effort to, you know, ground harvest.

00:30:13.000 So I'll throw it back there.

00:30:14.000 I just wanted to add that.

00:30:15.000 Well, I appreciate that.

00:30:17.000 And anybody who wants to support our effort, we love it.

00:30:19.000 I want to get your thoughts here, Kane.

00:30:21.000 A little bit of a curveball, but you can handle it.

00:30:23.000 We're getting some chatter in our emails about Donald Trump attacking Kaylee McEnaney.

00:30:30.000 I personally am perplexed by this.

00:30:33.000 Is this going to hurt him?

00:30:36.000 What's your take on this, Kane?

00:30:38.000 People reacted immediately.

00:30:39.000 It was the number one trending item on Twitter last night.

00:30:43.000 Yeah, I mean, especially, you know, CFB has a big female readership, and these are people who love Trump.

00:30:51.000 And they weren't happy about it.

00:30:53.000 I mean, it sounds like she just misread the teleprompter and stated that Trump was leading by 25 points over DeSantis instead of 32 points or 34.

00:31:03.000 And yeah, it seems whatever.

00:31:05.000 I try to ignore things.

00:31:06.000 I mean, I posted the links.

00:31:07.000 I want people to know what happened.

00:31:09.000 But personally, I try to ignore that stuff because it bothers me. 0.98

00:31:12.000 I just think it's dumb. 0.93

00:31:13.000 I think it's an unforced error. 0.98

00:31:16.000 Kaylee supported Trump in 2016 when no one else did.

00:31:22.000 She stuck her neck out for him.

00:31:23.000 And I believe in loyalty.

00:31:25.000 And I know Trump does too.

00:31:26.000 And that's why he, you know, he reacted this way, because he feels like she's disloyal because she has dared to say that she also likes Governor DeSantis.

00:31:35.000 And I think we have to get over that binary, you know, thing that you can't like Trump and that you can't like DeSantis.

00:31:40.000 So, yeah, I don't know how much time we have, but I'll wrap it up.

00:31:43.000 Yeah, I think it was an unforced error.

00:31:45.000 I don't think it's going to win him any votes.

00:31:47.000 Who's going to be like, oh, yeah, Trump is attacking Kayla?

00:31:50.000 You know, it's not going to help him.

00:31:51.000 It's not going to help him.

00:31:53.000 Kane from Citizen Free Press.

00:31:55.000 You do a terrific job.

00:31:56.000 Please come back.

00:31:57.000 Our teams will work on it next week.

00:31:59.000 You have your finger on the pulse.

00:32:01.000 Unlike anybody else.

00:32:02.000 I enjoyed it, Charlie.

00:32:03.000 I enjoy it.

00:32:04.000 I always do.

00:32:06.000 You do a great job.

00:32:07.000 And thank you for always having our back.

00:32:08.000 Thank you.

00:32:09.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:32:11.000 Email us your thoughts as always: freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:32:15.000 Thank you so much for listening, and God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - June 01, 2023

Eat Less Chikin? with Citizen Kane and Rep. Dan Bishop

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