The Charlie Kirk Show - El Salvador Eradicating Criminals + FBI Spying on Catholics with Congressman Mike Johnson

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, what can we learn from El Salvador?

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00:01:27.000 The NEW YORK Times is our lead today.

00:01:31.000 The NEW YORK Times says, El Salvador decimated its ruthless gangs, but at what cost?

00:01:39.000 No no, the next sentence should be, huzza hooray, hallelujah, the streets are safe.

00:01:46.000 The NEW YORK Times has to say.

00:01:47.000 But we need to find a victim in this equation.

00:01:50.000 Remember the left.

00:01:51.000 They are victim seekers.

00:01:53.000 They need to find a victim in every equation. 0.93

00:01:55.000 They believe the society is usually to blame for somebody's shortcoming, somebody rapes or loots or murders.

00:02:01.000 Well, it's society that that made them that way.

00:02:04.000 It's from a very flawed view of human nature.

00:02:07.000 We believe human beings are rather crummy and you got to put a lot of work to create good people.

00:02:15.000 It's not society's fault.

00:02:17.000 The great battle is you against you and how to raise good children.

00:02:21.000 So if you have a problem in El Salvador and these people are repeatedly terrorizing everyday citizens, then maybe we should go after them and not act as if they are victims because they are gangbangers that are shooting up soccer fields.

00:02:34.000 It's an incredible article in the NEW YORK Times.

00:02:36.000 El Salvador decimates its ruthless gangs, but at what cost?

00:02:41.000 The whole article is a series of stories about how much life has changed in the country over the last year, and this is not something we talk a lot about.

00:02:49.000 El Salvador it's, not exactly a lead nation.

00:02:53.000 We do get a fair amount of illegal border jumpers from El Salvador, which is probably where we mention it the most, but now it says in the article that children are finally playing on soccer fields that used to be exclusively gang turf.

00:03:05.000 Sounds like Chicago residents are able to park their cars without paying ten dollars a month to the gangs, which Which, by the way, is a lot in El Salvador.

00:03:14.000 People can let their children play in public parks without worrying that they'll be hit by stray bullets.

00:03:20.000 Here's one quote from Juan Hernandez.

00:03:23.000 He had not set foot on a soccer field just blocked from his house in 10 years.

00:03:28.000 Quote, it was turf, meaning it was gang territory.

00:03:32.000 You'd get hit by bullets left and right.

00:03:34.000 Now he's using the field to teach his 12-year-old son to play.

00:03:39.000 He tells me, I want to learn how.

00:03:40.000 I tell him, let's go.

00:03:43.000 In 2015, El Salvador had 105 murders for every 100,000 people in the country.

00:03:52.000 For comparison, that's a rate three times as high as bloody Chicago at the absolute peak of the crack cocaine crime wave and for the entire country.

00:04:03.000 That's more than a one in a thousand chance of being murdered every single year for every person.

00:04:08.000 That's extraordinary.

00:04:10.000 Last year, El Salvador's murder rate was down below eight per 100,000.

00:04:15.000 That's safer than the state of Florida.

00:04:18.000 So what happened?

00:04:20.000 Well, the murder rate is even lower now.

00:04:21.000 And according to the country's largest news outlet, gangs who once dominated the country now no longer exist.

00:04:29.000 Now, how do they do it?

00:04:30.000 Well, quite honestly, with a very simple and radical idea.

00:04:34.000 They rounded up the criminals ruthlessly.

00:04:36.000 They put them in prison and they kept them there.

00:04:38.000 They said, we're done.

00:04:40.000 We're done with this domination of the streets by the gangbangers, stray bullets, kids being murdered.

00:04:46.000 We are going to use political power to clean up the streets. 0.99

00:04:50.000 That comes with a cost.

00:04:52.000 The cost is that you could maybe overreach.

00:04:54.000 The government could get too powerful.

00:04:56.000 But remember, when you try to design a flourishing society, you need to try to find the Aristotelian mean.

00:05:03.000 You try to find the middle ground.

00:05:05.000 You try to find the bowl of porridge that is just right to use Goldilocks and the three bears.

00:05:11.000 You have to try to find, have I gone too far in the direction of anarchy, disorder, or bedlam?

00:05:19.000 You can go too far in the direction of order.

00:05:21.000 That's North Korea, obviously.

00:05:23.000 But when you go so far in the direction of just outright disregard for the law, it's time to rein in the criminals a little bit.

00:05:33.000 And yeah, you might have to say, you know what?

00:05:36.000 Yeah, we're not going to overly indulge in every single type of pandering issue when we go arrest criminals.

00:05:46.000 Too bad.

00:05:48.000 Last month, the El Salvador president had an approval rating over 80%.

00:05:52.000 When you are being ruled by a gang, it's very similar to being ruled by a foreign invader. 0.92

00:05:57.000 So the question is, what are you willing to do?

00:06:00.000 And the backlash the New York Times presents, and we'll get to it, is they say, oh, they trampled on their civil liberties.

00:06:08.000 Civil liberties are important.

00:06:10.000 Of course they are.

00:06:11.000 But it's a balance.

00:06:12.000 Do the civil liberties of outright gang members and criminals trump the welfare of the entire society?

00:06:18.000 Of course not.

00:06:20.000 Now, you have to use prudence and practical judgment. 0.99

00:06:23.000 And people then say, I mean, this is how moronic people are because they go to college. 0.94

00:06:27.000 They say, well, Charlie, how do you know when it's right to do it? 0.97

00:06:30.000 I don't know when you have a murder rate where you have a chance of one in a thousand to get murdered.

00:06:33.000 Probably a good idea to start cleaning up the streets.

00:06:37.000 So the New York Times goes out of its way to dig up NGOs, non-governmental organizations, and professors who are moaning and complaining about what's happening in El Salvador.

00:06:48.000 They yearn for the gang domination.

00:06:50.000 That's what they say.

00:06:51.000 This person who's an El Salvador expert, I didn't know there was such a thing, at the Washington College in Maryland, quote, I remain incredibly pessimistic about what this means for the future of democracy in the region.

00:07:07.000 Quote, the risk is that this becomes a popular model for other politicians.

00:07:11.000 The risk, the expert says, the risk.

00:07:14.000 I wonder, Christine Wade, can we find out?

00:07:17.000 When was the last time Christine Wade walked the streets of El Salvador at night?

00:07:23.000 She's an expert on El Salvador.

00:07:25.000 She's become a subject matter expert.

00:07:27.000 Would she live in El Salvador?

00:07:30.000 Or is she an expert from some sort of academic ivory tower?

00:07:35.000 She can look at El Salvador, but she wouldn't actually live there.

00:07:39.000 The risk, she says in the New York Times, is that this becomes a popular model for other politicians to say, quote, well, you could be providing you more security in exchange for giving you up some of your rights.

00:07:52.000 Hey, Newsflash, you don't have a right to murder other people.

00:07:54.000 You don't have a right to terrorize children.

00:07:57.000 You don't have a right to be able to destroy an entire country.

00:08:00.000 You don't have a right to occupy a sovereign country.

00:08:04.000 You don't.

00:08:07.000 And so, yes, you must fully acknowledge that, hey, there might be some clumsiness along the way.

00:08:13.000 There might be a couple infringement on rights here and there.

00:08:18.000 Not ideal, but it's necessary.

00:08:22.000 At times, your society falls apart so much where you say, look, this is not exactly what we want, but we need to get our country safe again.

00:08:33.000 When El Salvador is safe, then fine.

00:08:36.000 You can start to restore it.

00:08:37.000 By the way, what civil liberties are they talking about?

00:08:40.000 The whole article is an overture to try to make you feel bad for the gang members, to try to make you as if the gang members are the victims.

00:08:49.000 Defeating criminal gangs who run your country is a prerequisite to having civil liberties.

00:08:54.000 In the state of nature, it's very hard to have civil liberties.

00:08:59.000 You need to try.

00:09:00.000 You need to create a civil society.

00:09:02.000 The choice is very simple.

00:09:03.000 Chaos and terror versus safety and order and kids being able to play in parks.

00:09:08.000 And of course, you could go too far in the order direction.

00:09:11.000 They're not even beginning to go too far in the order direction.

00:09:14.000 But the New York Times is very worried.

00:09:17.000 The New York Times is worried that this successful model, El Salvador, could be implemented in other gang-infested countries. 0.89

00:09:24.000 The pro-cartel New York Times is very worried that a decent and civil society, what is the cost?

00:09:31.000 The cost is this.

00:09:33.000 Some offended gang members and children that are able to flourish.

00:09:40.000 That's the cost.

00:09:42.000 By the way, just so we're clear, ever since BLM took over the country post-Floyda Palooza and the religion of anti-racism set in, U.S. children killed by guns jumped 50%.

00:09:58.000 46% of all victims, black, 83%, boys.

00:10:01.000 But BLM is able to buy mansions in Malibu.

00:10:04.000 They're richer than ever.

00:10:05.000 A Republican attorney general will never go after them.

00:10:08.000 They are wealthier than ever.

00:10:11.000 But the New York Times, it's a very interesting thing because in the same breath, the intelligentsia that reads the New York Times will say, it's bad that we lock up El Salvadorian gang members, but it's good that we lock up Donald Trump.

00:10:27.000 Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here.

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00:11:31.000 You know, I cringe at times when conservatives say, well, you know, I'm a liberal.

00:11:36.000 I'm a classical liberal.

00:11:37.000 And of course, there's some beautiful things that classical liberalism believes in.

00:11:42.000 The fruits of the Enlightenment are worthy of appreciation and study, but there's excesses to liberalism, small L-liberalism.

00:11:50.000 You can go too far in that direction.

00:11:53.000 This is why I think the founding fathers just hit it so perfectly.

00:11:57.000 They understood the people they were dealing with, which were church-going, religious people with a strong moral fiber.

00:12:04.000 And they said, all right, republic if you can keep it.

00:12:07.000 Centralized government, states created the federal government, checks and balances, consent to the governed.

00:12:13.000 So what are you to do, though, if things start to fall apart?

00:12:16.000 And the founding fathers were willing to use political power if things started to fall apart.

00:12:21.000 Look at Shay's rebellion.

00:12:24.000 All right, got to mobilize the armed forces, got to make that, which I believe was actually a whiskey rebellion, if I remember correctly.

00:12:30.000 They actually have to try to restrict that activity.

00:12:33.000 At times, you have to be able to use and be willing to use prudence, practical judgment, that the Greeks said is the ultimate governing virtue, besides courage.

00:12:47.000 It takes a lifetime to develop prudence, studying the great works, understanding eternal knowledge.

00:12:53.000 Winston Churchill had prudence.

00:12:55.000 Abraham Lincoln had prudence.

00:12:57.000 The people that we appreciate and that we celebrate in the West, they didn't enjoy using political power.

00:13:05.000 They weren't Stalin, but they were willing at certain times to use it to be able to improve their society.

00:13:16.000 And so the New York Times is very worried, and this is important because it applies directly to America.

00:13:20.000 Why are we talking about El Salvador?

00:13:22.000 This is directly applicable to what we're living through in America.

00:13:26.000 It is word for word.

00:13:28.000 Because the New York Times finds it objectionable that you might go lock up a bunch of criminals in El Salvador and the ordinary person in El Salvador can now live freely.

00:13:37.000 It's the exact same parasitic mind virus, idea pathogen, that gives us Seattle and gives us San Francisco and gives us Portland.

00:13:50.000 Now, I got to be honest, I delight when I read articles like this, and you shouldn't delight in people's suffering.

00:13:58.000 And I do go to Whole Foods from time to time.

00:14:01.000 But boy, I should stop.

00:14:02.000 I'll be very honest.

00:14:03.000 It's just, I went to Trader Joe's recently. 0.97

00:14:06.000 It was even worse with some of the outright liberalism, like gay flags all over the place. 1.00

00:14:11.000 It was just a joke.

00:14:13.000 Whole Foods has to close in downtown San Francisco, citing vagrancy and homelessness.

00:14:21.000 Can't operate.

00:14:22.000 And Whole Foods is obviously owned by Amazon.

00:14:27.000 One of our team members says, I might be the last white person to never visit Whole Foods.

00:14:32.000 I remain pure.

00:14:33.000 It's very impressive.

00:14:35.000 I have to say, that is one of the most impressive things I've heard.

00:14:41.000 Whole Foods can't remain open.

00:14:43.000 So while a third world country, El Salvador, has clean streets and crime goes down, 79% of Portland businesses report being vandalized by homeless and vagrants.

00:14:56.000 So isn't it an interesting test case?

00:14:58.000 So yes, we are the wealthiest nation ever to exist and currently still the wealthiest nation.

00:15:03.000 That might change soon.

00:15:05.000 We have more valuable companies.

00:15:08.000 We have amazing entrepreneurs, but we can't even do the basic stuff right.

00:15:13.000 We obviously can fix these problems.

00:15:16.000 The problem is the political will.

00:15:19.000 The problem is that if we tried to clean up our streets right now in Los Angeles, right now in San Francisco, right now in Portland, right now in Chicago, if we executed a dragnet, which by the way, a majority of murders in Chicago go unsolved.

00:15:36.000 A majority.

00:15:38.000 So if we said, all right, here's a team of 10,000 people.

00:15:41.000 We're declaring martial law.

00:15:42.000 National Guard rolls into Chicago.

00:15:45.000 Here's the tanks.

00:15:46.000 Sorry, it's going to be two months of less liberty.

00:15:49.000 We're going to start cleaning up the streets.

00:15:51.000 Law-abiding people, you'll be treated with dignity and respect.

00:15:54.000 If you're a criminal, if you're a gangbanger, you're getting arrested.

00:15:56.000 You're going to jail for a long time.

00:15:59.000 And you're going to find gangbanger after gangbanger that killed the four-year-old or killed the 14-year-old.

00:16:06.000 And again, I just, we don't have time to properly build it out.

00:16:09.000 But isn't it telling that what I just say there, you know, the media is going to lose it.

00:16:13.000 Charlie Kirk wants tanks in the streets.

00:16:15.000 No, I really don't, actually.

00:16:17.000 I think that would be a sad sight.

00:16:19.000 But the crime in Chicago certainly warrants the National Guard.

00:16:22.000 I've said that for quite some time.

00:16:23.000 Why has the National Guard not been called into Chicago?

00:16:26.000 The lack of political will.

00:16:28.000 We could solve these crimes, lack of political will.

00:16:30.000 But what we do have the political will, we have the political will to have dozens of prosecutors go press charges against Donald Trump and the Manhattan DA.

00:16:40.000 That we have the political will for.

00:16:42.000 We have the political will to go put meme maker Douglas Mackey in prison.

00:16:46.000 We have the political will to go raid James O'Keefe's home.

00:16:49.000 We have the political will to raid Rudy Giuliani's home.

00:16:51.000 We have the political will to go indict Dinesh D'Souza.

00:16:54.000 We have the political will to go after Catholics. 1.00

00:16:56.000 We have the political will to go raid Mar-a-Lago, which was probably approved by Joe Biden.

00:17:02.000 We have the political will to go indict Steve Bannon, but we don't have the political will to mobilize the National Guard like they do in El Salvador to clean up our streets of the gangs.

00:17:09.000 Why?

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00:17:52.000 Mike Johnson, who is the vice chairman of House Republicans, does a great job.

00:17:55.000 Congressman joins us, rejoins us.

00:17:58.000 He was with us recently.

00:18:00.000 Congressman, welcome back to the program.

00:18:01.000 Tell us about this story.

00:18:02.000 The FBI sought to develop sources in Catholic churches.

00:18:07.000 Is it fair to say that possibly on Easter Sunday, the FBI had informants and plants at Catholic mass services across the country?

00:18:16.000 It's a great question, Charlie, and we don't know.

00:18:18.000 I mean, this sounds like something that's surreal, something that's made up, but we have the documents.

00:18:23.000 We have whistleblowers within the FBI that have given us the information.

00:18:26.000 And we know that the Richmond Field Office of the FBI, this is where it was originally begun, they sought to reach out to Catholic clergy and church leadership to recruit sources inside the churches so that they could monitor and report on their parishioners.

00:18:43.000 It sounds Arwelian, but that's what the government is engaged in.

00:18:46.000 The FBI generated this memo in the Richmond Field Office.

00:18:50.000 It was distributed to field offices around the country.

00:18:53.000 And Jim Jordan and I on the Web Position Committee and House Judiciary Committee are pursuing this vigorously because we are demanding answers to see how far and wide this went, how much damage was done.

00:19:03.000 We just don't know yet.

00:19:04.000 So, I mean, our audience is fired up over this and many other topics.

00:19:08.000 An idea that has been floated is called fencing off the money, Congressman.

00:19:14.000 Which, for example, you might say, okay, we might not be able to close the FBI, nor do I know if you know, they do some good work, obviously.

00:19:21.000 But I mean, a lot of it should be shut down as a political operation.

00:19:24.000 But fencing off the money would be something closer to, hey, all right, Christopher Ray, you used the private jet to go to the Adirondacks.

00:19:32.000 That's going to be put on pause until we get actual answers and people are fired.

00:19:38.000 Are these ideas being floated by you guys, you know, in House leadership at this time?

00:19:42.000 Because at least that could put there the line items that the agency heads care about the most, and you actually might be able to get answers.

00:19:52.000 Yes.

00:19:53.000 I mean, the short answer is yes.

00:19:54.000 We talked about it a couple weeks ago.

00:19:56.000 You know, our hands are tied in some respect.

00:19:58.000 We're just as frustrated as everybody else.

00:20:00.000 Believe me, we've been chomping at the bit for the last couple of years to get a shot at this oversight, which is a critical constitutional responsibility that we have, as you know.

00:20:08.000 But we just got a majority in January and we just got subpoena power later that month.

00:20:13.000 And so we're only a couple of months, two, three months into this right now.

00:20:16.000 We're ginning it up as quick as we can.

00:20:18.000 Now, we can investigate, we can uncover these abuses and lay it bare for the American people to judge for themselves.

00:20:24.000 And then ultimately, we have to reform these practices and abuses to make sure they never happen again.

00:20:30.000 But the power of the purse is really the key function here.

00:20:33.000 We don't have the ability to indict anyone to perk walk them, arrest them, put them on trial, but we can put them on trial in the court of public opinion and we can cut funding and limit funding, fence it off, as you say, for big priorities that they have if they cannot follow the basic tenets of the Constitution.

00:20:50.000 I mean, this kind of stuff is just steamrolling right over the First Amendment.

00:20:54.000 It's as if field agents and FBI leadership have no regard for that at all.

00:20:58.000 And it's really, really scary and dangerous stuff.

00:21:01.000 It's extremely scary and dangerous.

00:21:03.000 And I mean, we have real crimes that are happening in our country.

00:21:06.000 I mean, crime is up from 80% of Portland businesses are reporting that they've experienced vandalism through vagrancy and homelessness, widespread issues that are occurring.

00:21:17.000 And yet the FBI, and this is a theme we've been building out on our program, there's a term called anarcho-tyranny.

00:21:22.000 We have anarchy on the streets, but tyranny towards political dissidents, right?

00:21:26.000 Tyranny towards Steve Bannon, tyranny towards Dinesh D'Souza, tyranny towards Donald Trump.

00:21:30.000 And I do want to ask you about that, Congressman.

00:21:33.000 What is the plan?

00:21:34.000 And you might not be involved in it, but just maybe more globally.

00:21:37.000 What is the plan to get some answers about this Gestapo-like behavior from Alvin Bragg going after a former president?

00:21:45.000 Well, we'll be in his district on Monday.

00:21:47.000 We're taking the Judiciary Committee on the road and really are you doing an official hearing?

00:21:51.000 Tell us about that.

00:21:52.000 Yes, we are.

00:21:53.000 An official hearing right there in lower Manhattan so that we can have the victims of this crime spree that he has empowered to come forward and tell their tragic and terrible stories again so the American people can see what's happening.

00:22:05.000 You know, Alvin Bragg has abused his office.

00:22:07.000 I mean, he's obviously a Soros-funded political operative.

00:22:10.000 He ran on his campaign platform to get Donald Trump.

00:22:14.000 So they identified the defendant before there was ever even an alleged crime.

00:22:17.000 And everybody knows what this is about.

00:22:19.000 Even the Democrats who are honest, who will tell you quietly, they know what this is about.

00:22:23.000 It's a political vendetta.

00:22:24.000 They've weaponized the, you know, the DA's office there as they have other Soros-funded DA's offices around the country.

00:22:31.000 And they're destroying our justice system in the process, the people's faith in the system itself.

00:22:34.000 So we're going to take it right to his backyard and illustrate how his priorities are so far out of whack.

00:22:39.000 Obviously, he's a political operative.

00:22:41.000 Obviously, he's compromised and immoral in the way he's doing all this, but there are real world consequences.

00:22:47.000 He's allowing violent crime to go unprosecuted.

00:22:49.000 He's downgraded over 50%, 52% of felonies have been downgraded to misdemeanors under his tenure as DA.

00:22:57.000 But for Donald Trump, of course, they take a misdemeanor business records violation alleged and upgrade it to a felony with this bootstrapped crazy theory that I know you've discussed.

00:23:07.000 It holds no water.

00:23:09.000 I think their motions to dismiss the Trump legal team should be successful.

00:23:13.000 We'll see what happens with that.

00:23:14.000 But in the meantime, we're going to let the American people know what's going on here because they have to see it for themselves.

00:23:19.000 Totally.

00:23:19.000 Are there plans to subpoena Alvin Bragg himself and to go through that process?

00:23:24.000 And if he ignores it, why not a contempt of Congress charge?

00:23:27.000 I mean, I bet that could pass the entire House.

00:23:29.000 They did that to Steve Bannon, and he now faces federal charges there.

00:23:33.000 And this might sound aggressive, but we're in unprecedented times now.

00:23:37.000 We are in unprecedented times, and we have to take unprecedented measures in many cases.

00:23:42.000 And, you know, one of the powers that we have, one of the responsibilities we have in the oversight category is to ensure that federal funds were not misused on this abuse of his power.

00:23:52.000 And we think that at least some federal forfeiture funds may have been used in this Trump charade.

00:23:58.000 And so we're going to get down to the bottom of that.

00:24:00.000 We've already requested records.

00:24:02.000 We've sent letters.

00:24:03.000 It may come to subpoenas and we'll have to see how that develops.

00:24:06.000 But we have to use, to your point, Charlie, we have to use every tool in our arsenal to push back against this, not for a political purpose, not for a partisan reason, but because our people, the American people, are losing their faith in the system of justice.

00:24:21.000 And if we lose that, we have nothing.

00:24:22.000 Yeah.

00:24:23.000 And so, look, I mean, whatever it's worth, my two cents, and I think you guys are doing a great job, is you should subpoena Bragg, have him ignore it, do contempt of Congress, send it to DOJ.

00:24:32.000 They indicted Bannon for the same thing.

00:24:34.000 You know, you guys go after a former president.

00:24:36.000 It's time to play ball.

00:24:37.000 And I mean, look, it doesn't require to go to the Senate, right?

00:24:40.000 It takes a whole vote of Congress.

00:24:42.000 They did it to Bannon on that January 6th sham committee.

00:24:45.000 You know, mess around and find out.

00:24:47.000 There's other words to use that we could use, but we're not going to do that.

00:24:50.000 So, more broadly, you know, just kind of walk us through the pace that you guys are operating with, which is a breakneck pace.

00:24:57.000 The New York Times is writing.

00:24:58.000 They say, oh, this Congress seems scattered on oversight.

00:25:01.000 I disagree.

00:25:02.000 You guys seem to really be paling back the layers.

00:25:04.000 How can the American people assist and support you guys in this effort, right?

00:25:09.000 Because people are just so fed up.

00:25:11.000 They're cynical.

00:25:12.000 They want answers.

00:25:13.000 We want justice.

00:25:14.000 And what are the next targets?

00:25:15.000 A Trouche, CDC?

00:25:17.000 You know, talk more broadly, kind of what are the next wins that we can expect from this Republican Congress?

00:25:24.000 Well, thank you for asking the question.

00:25:26.000 Listen, our challenge is being able to focus because it's such a target-rich environment for oversight and investigation.

00:25:33.000 As you know, there's so many agencies that have been abused in this way.

00:25:36.000 In judiciary, we're focused a lot on the Department of Justice, but it's CDC, it's ATF, it's IRS.

00:25:43.000 It's, you know, name your agency, EPA.

00:25:45.000 It goes on and on.

00:25:46.000 So what we've done is distribute the oversight responsibility amongst the various committees of jurisdiction.

00:25:52.000 We can only handle so much in the weaponization select committee and an oversight committee itself.

00:25:57.000 And so virtually every committee, Republican-led committee in Congress in the House, is engaged at some level in oversight.

00:26:03.000 We had 42 hearings in one day two weeks ago.

00:26:07.000 We set a record for Congress, but more than half of those, I think, were oversight hearings.

00:26:12.000 And so there is a lot going on.

00:26:14.000 Our challenge is to keep track of that, package it, put it in a digestible format for the American people to see.

00:26:21.000 And that's a real challenge because there's so much that we're uncovering.

00:26:24.000 So the request is from the people who care about liberty, care about our country and its foundations, is to, you know, hey, I'm not shameful by asking for a prayer request.

00:26:34.000 You know, we need stamina and wisdom and discernment as we sift through all of this, but also get a little bit of patience.

00:26:40.000 This has to be a very, by design, it has to be a very methodical, deliberative process because we have to gather the evidence like we're doing a criminal proceeding almost because we're going to need that evidence down the road.

00:26:50.000 And so it takes some time to do that.

00:26:52.000 When the church style committee thing was formed back in the 70s, they had 120 hearings before they came out with reforms on the intel abuses in the Intel community.

00:27:01.000 You know, we've only had five or six hearings in some of these, but there's many, many more to come, and you're going to see a lot more, you know, openly displayed for the people.

00:27:09.000 I think that's a really important responsibility we have right now.

00:27:12.000 Just one minute remaining.

00:27:12.000 Just remind our audience of the revelation in regard, because we were moving at such a pace.

00:27:17.000 The Catholic story, just so everyone understands that, just remind our audience.

00:27:20.000 Just real quick.

00:27:21.000 Real quick summary.

00:27:21.000 Yeah.

00:27:22.000 We've uncovered because of whistleblowers, we have the documents.

00:27:24.000 The FBI, the Richmond Field Office produced a memo and they wanted to recruit, they wanted to recruit spies, basically, inside traditional Catholic churches.

00:27:33.000 They labeled traditional Catholics as potential violent extremists.

00:27:38.000 No allegation of a crime, no evidence of any such thing.

00:27:41.000 They're targeted because of their religious belief, their sincerely held religious belief.

00:27:44.000 And you can translate that into pro-vifers, okay?

00:27:47.000 That's what this is about.

00:27:48.000 The FBI is involved, the DOJ is involved, and we're getting down to the bottom of it.

00:27:51.000 Congressman Mike Johnson, thank you so much.

00:27:53.000 You're welcome back anytime.

00:27:54.000 Thank you.

00:27:55.000 Thank you, my friend.

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00:29:52.000 I don't mean leftism, okay?

00:29:53.000 But classical liberalism can be attractive.

00:29:55.000 But if you are not anchored to reality or use prudence or are able to balance liberalism with order, then you quickly get into anarchy or what the founders would call licentiousness.

00:30:12.000 And it's not as if our leaders are afraid to use political power.

00:30:16.000 They just don't want to use political power against criminals.

00:30:18.000 Isn't that interesting?

00:30:20.000 The Biden regime, they said they were stunned about the raid on Mar-a-Lago.

00:30:24.000 Do you remember that?

00:30:25.000 We're stunned.

00:30:27.000 Well, they're actually the ones that requested the raid at Mar-a-Lago.

00:30:33.000 The official weaponization of the justice system against your political opponent.

00:30:40.000 So they're perfectly fine using political power to go raid the opposition party's home.

00:30:49.000 And I'm going to say something here that I think is important.

00:30:52.000 It's a little bit of a wake-up call.

00:30:55.000 Right now, they're, and I'm not defending this, this is wrong.

00:30:58.000 But if you watch CNN, they're mercilessly attacking Russia for arresting a Wall Street Journal reporter.

00:31:10.000 Please get his name.

00:31:11.000 It's wrong.

00:31:11.000 He shouldn't be arrested.

00:31:13.000 He probably did nothing wrong.

00:31:15.000 Okay, yeah, I'm sorry.

00:31:16.000 It's right here.

00:31:17.000 Evan Gersovich, front page of the Wall Street Journal.

00:31:21.000 U.S. designates Wall Street Journal reporter as wrongfully held by Russia.

00:31:28.000 And kind of connected to this that we're talking about here, every single major complaint that the mainstream media routinely levels against the Russian Federation's domestic politics, not necessarily invading a country, but their domestic politics, our own government is doing.

00:31:53.000 We go after dissident journalists.

00:31:55.000 We go after satirists.

00:31:56.000 Douglas Mackey is a young man who faces a decade in prison.

00:32:01.000 When Vladimir Putin puts Navalani, or Novleni, whatever his name is, in prison, they say, wow, what kind of evil person would try to put the leader of the opposition party in jail? 0.98

00:32:11.000 Putin is a thug.

00:32:14.000 On the same side of the token, Donald Trump gets invited by Alvin Bragg and it's perfectly defensible. 0.91

00:32:21.000 Maybe the American government doesn't actually hate Russia because of his domestic politics.

00:32:32.000 And maybe Putin is a thug, but then what are our leaders?

00:32:40.000 For example, Steve Bannon, one of the leaders of the opposition party, is under indictment both by the Department of Justice and the state of New York.

00:32:49.000 James O'Keefe, journalist.

00:32:51.000 So will the U.S. designate James O'Keefe as wrongfully be investigated?

00:32:56.000 What I find to be comical is our own government looks abroad and is willing to point out injustice and tyranny, but is vastly unwilling to ever say the same about our own domestic politics, even though we are acting in the same code of conduct, the same behavior that we find to be reprehensible.

00:33:19.000 Russia is so terrible. 1.00

00:33:21.000 Yeah, you shouldn't put journalists in prison.

00:33:23.000 You shouldn't put leaders of the opposition party in prison.

00:33:29.000 Maybe we've met the enemy and it's us.

00:33:32.000 You're not allowed to say this out loud because you're just supposed to kind of go through the motions.

00:33:36.000 Russia bad, Russia evil. 0.91

00:33:38.000 Yes, you should not do those things.

00:33:41.000 That's why it's wrong that we're doing it to ourselves.

00:33:46.000 So Evan Gershowitz, quote, journalism is not a crime, State Department spokesman Vedit Patel said.

00:33:53.000 We call for the Russian Federation to immediately release Mr. Gershevich.

00:33:58.000 If journalism is not a crime, then tell me why Dinesh D'Souza, James O'Keefe, and Steve Bannon all got targeted by the Southern District of New York and or the state of New York.

00:34:08.000 No, but our own government likes the virtue signal abroad while our own politics becomes actually more Soviet than the Russian Federation's politics in some sense.

00:34:25.000 And so to kind of close the thought on the El Salvador story, which it all ties together, it's an unwillingness.

00:34:32.000 How do we break that?

00:34:33.000 It's a mystery.

00:34:35.000 But El Salvador has something that we do not have.

00:34:39.000 They have elites that actually care about their country.

00:34:42.000 Our elites do not care about the health, the well-being, or the vitality of America.

00:34:51.000 They do not care.

00:34:53.000 Joe Biden certainly doesn't care. 1.00

00:34:54.000 He's a traitor to the United States. 0.97

00:34:56.000 He's bought and paid for by the Chinese Communist Party amongst other organizations. 0.91

00:35:01.000 But it's just the people that are supposed to be caretakers, leaders, stewards of society, there is this mass indifference, kind of a shrugging of the shoulders.

00:35:13.000 I have my gated community.

00:35:15.000 I have my chauffeured cars.

00:35:17.000 I have my third home in Aspen, Kenny Bunkport.

00:35:20.000 Why does it affect me?

00:35:22.000 I don't get it.

00:35:24.000 The country will fall apart.

00:35:25.000 It is falling apart because of that attitude.

00:35:28.000 And that's one of major reasons.

00:35:29.000 El Salvador, a third world country, shows us how you can clean up our streets. 1.00

00:35:34.000 Maybe we should take their lead.

00:35:36.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:35:37.000 Email us your thoughts.

00:35:38.000 As always, freedom at CharlieKirk.com.

00:35:40.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - April 11, 2023

El Salvador Eradicating Criminals + FBI Spying on Catholics with Congressman Mike Johnson

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