00:00:57.000He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:01:04.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:02:29.000Overwhelmingly, it's the number one, two, and three issue from our voters.
00:02:33.000They say, are we ever going to have functional elections again?
00:02:35.000Some states seem to be doing the right thing.
00:02:37.000You guys have lots of lawsuits that you are trying to uncover the truth.
00:02:42.000First, just tell us what the status of your lawsuits, what's going on there, and how are we doing, figuring out what actually happened in the 2020 election?
00:02:52.000Well, our lawsuits continue and they continue aggressively.
00:02:56.000And we're not doing the best at getting at what happened in 2020.
00:03:00.000And the reason, remarkably so, Charlie, as we've discussed in the past, is you have election officials who are refusing to be transparent in the election.
00:03:09.000And as I mentioned previously, you know, I've never investigated somebody who had evidence of their innocence who didn't want me to see it or investigated somebody who had evidence of their guilt who wanted me to see it.
00:03:22.000So there's a reason why all of these roadblocks from election officials to mainstream media to prevent any serious look at elections, which must be transparent.
00:03:38.000It was the most lawless election in the United States history.
00:03:41.000What I mean by that is local officials, unilaterally, many of them funded with hundreds of millions of dollars from the left, decided they weren't going to follow state laws.
00:03:51.000That happened in all of the urban core of the swing states where Mark Zuckerberg's money hit.
00:03:58.000Over $400 million, Zuckerberg alone gave more money than the federal government appropriated for the election in 2020.
00:04:06.000And those funds came in and told those officials how they were going to run the election.
00:04:11.000So we had a billionaire in the counting room paying for the election judges, paying for the machines, paying for the way that elections were going to be operated.
00:04:20.000Most of the time in those areas, contrary to many state laws and blue state governors used COVID fear to justify their violation of state law.
00:04:32.000We have these consolidated accounting centers where actually in Green Bay, Wisconsin, Charlie, the election clerk, the person who is charged by law to run the election, was moved out of the way by the mayor of Green Bay, who teamed up with a couple of other mayors.
00:04:48.000And they brought in a leftist group and turned over the room, the keys to the counting room to a representative from a leftist organization called the National Vote at Home Institute.
00:05:12.000It's okay for the private sector to do, but government should not do that because that means government is targeting certain voters who they anticipate will vote a certain way to get them to vote and not targeting others.
00:05:25.000But that's exactly what they did in Green Bay, in Racine, in all of these urban core cities.
00:05:32.000They used campaign tactics, government did, to select people they wanted at the polls and then went after them.
00:06:03.000Legislatures needed to be involved from the beginning.
00:06:06.000And secondly, the look needs to be broader than these audits are.
00:06:11.000Most election audits do not identify the fraud or the why and how of the fraud.
00:06:18.000I believe we're going to come out of these audits with more questions, not answers.
00:06:22.000But the American people deserve answers to those questions.
00:06:27.000And I hope eventually those election officials who ran those elections would be willing to open up and let us in that counting room like they let Mark Zuckerberg in the counting room.
00:06:40.000So I just want everyone to understand Phil Klein has been on this from the very beginning.
00:06:44.000By the beginning, I mean right after the election.
00:06:46.000And you've been on a couple of times, Phil.
00:06:48.000We have listeners that listen and they come and they go.
00:06:50.000And some might remember you and others are just hearing you for the first time.
00:06:53.000This has taken perseverance and grits to continue on this topic.
00:06:58.000So let's focus on the Zuckerberg piece.
00:07:01.000And then I want to get into the audits, the Pennsylvania audit, the Georgia audit.
00:08:17.000Georgia, for example, Zuckerberg gave the money to a charity, which then bypassed the state legislature, which has the responsibility under the Constitution.
00:08:27.000And Charlie, one of our most fundamental precepts of the law in America and in the West has been equal treatment before the law.
00:08:40.000That was a significant change that the United States brought about at its founding and has been struggling to achieve over the past 200 years.
00:08:49.000Well, this election treated people differently under the law.
00:08:55.000The government got engaged with that money and turned out that voter, and they made it very difficult to vote in Republican strongholds, shutting down in-person polling places because of COVID.
00:09:38.000So Georgia stepped in and they passed a law that said nobody can take private money unless it's appropriated by the city or the county or the state legislature.
00:11:13.000Okay, Arizona has got a group that is looking at the ballots, doing a hand recount of the ballots.
00:11:21.000They were going to also check with voters to see if they voted, but were threatened by the Biden Justice Department that somehow that might violate civil rights laws, which it does not.
00:11:32.000You know, if I'm running for office, if you were running for office, you could go down and you could get the list of who's voted and who hasn't voted every day in advance of the election and contact those voters.
00:11:45.000It's only a violation of civil rights if you intimidate.
00:11:48.000So, certainly the audit should not be a left, should not be threatened and chilled in that fashion, but the Justice Department did it and the auditors backed off.
00:11:58.000Now, I'm hoping that they really do some comparison in signatures.
00:12:03.000I don't know if they'll compare signatures on the ballots, and that's vitally important because in this election, there's a couple of things.
00:12:12.000In every election, this is important: chain of custody of the ballot.
00:12:15.000When the ballot leaves your hands, you don't know who's casting it.
00:12:19.000You don't know if it was cast by an actual registered voter.
00:12:23.000You don't know if they were intimidated, coerced, or in any fashion misled in the vote.
00:12:29.000When a person votes at the polling place, we have trained election officials to do that.
00:12:34.000That's why fraud occurs with absentee ballots.
00:12:37.000Now, the left mailed these absentee ballots to everybody, everybody.
00:12:43.000And the ballots were laying on sidewalks in Nevada.
00:12:46.000The ballots were mailed to old addresses.
00:12:48.000So, one of the only ways that you can make sure that it's the actual voter that casts that vote and not somebody else, or that they weren't intimidated is you have a signature on it, and you have a witness in some states.
00:13:02.000And then you compare that signature to a signature on file.
00:13:08.000I don't think they're really doing that comparison.
00:13:11.000I'll try to get to the bottom of that.
00:13:13.000That is a problem, but they are hand recounting.
00:13:17.000They are looking at the paper of these ballots to make sure, for example, that if they were mailed or put in the envelope, that there's a fold in them, that they weren't printed by machine, and that they were legitimately hand-completed.
00:13:32.000That's important to look at because there have been allegations and affidavits that indicate that they might have been fraudulent ballots that were printed out or not mailed in so that they were not folded.
00:13:45.000So, those types of things are taking place.
00:13:47.000They're also taking a little bit of a look at the machine and some chain of custody issues.
00:13:53.000In Georgia, we got some of the same thing, but we do know this already in Georgia.
00:14:00.000There has been an effort to obtain, you remember the drop boxes, by the way, and America has never had broad elections by drop boxes.
00:14:10.000They dropped them on every street corner where there were Democrats.
00:14:13.000They were very, very rare in Republican areas.
00:14:17.000But this chain of custody, they promised that you would have a Republican and a Democrat pick up these ballots.
00:14:24.000Because, for example, if you have Johnny Young Republican picking up ballots in a Democrat stronghold, he just might lose some on the way to the polling place.
00:14:35.000Same thing might happen with a Democrat.
00:16:19.000And we went to machines that count the vote that we can't see inside the machine how it's doing the counting.
00:16:28.000The only way, if you know if those machines are operating in a valid manner, is if you have access to the computer logs and do an audit.
00:16:38.000Those computer logs, under the contracts entered into by these states, are the proprietary property of the vendor, and we don't have a right to see it.
00:16:49.000That's like hiring somebody to count your vote, putting them in a dark room, not letting anybody speak to them or meet them, and then saying, America, trust this person's going to do the right job.
00:17:03.000That by itself should be a national controversy.
00:17:07.000And just recently, the Arizona Maricopa County officials admitted they don't have the right to demand these logs from the vendor themselves.
00:17:57.000They're responsible for one county, so it's easy for us to know if they're doing a good job.
00:18:01.000They are subject to open records requests so we can see all they're doing and they can be fired the next election.
00:18:08.000What happened in blue states is they gave that access to leftist organizations for the first time in U.S. history in what's called data sharing agreements.
00:18:20.000They went to rock the vote, who then turned out another 70 or 80 leftist organizations, allowing them to directly access our poll books through thousands of people who are untrained and we have no idea how they verified identity or whether these persons that they registered were actually correct.
00:18:43.000I know this from my career in law enforcement.
00:18:46.000I could take a day, I could learn your date of birth, your social security number, whether you've ever changed your name, wherever you've lived, if you were a woman when you got married, what name you went by after you got married and before you got married.
00:19:01.000In other words, I could find everything I wanted about you to create you into any database that I wanted to create you into.
00:19:09.000America was not hacked from without this election.
00:19:13.000We were hacked from within with tens of thousands of people having access to our poll books.
00:19:27.000And our lawsuits and the things that we're doing are trying to get to the bottom of that.
00:19:32.000So, Phil, let's just talk realistically.
00:19:36.000As far as what you think we're going to be able to uncover and the things we may suspect, but we may never know.
00:19:42.000I ask you that question intentionally because I think some people are getting the hopes up of our voters that we're going to have this massive reveal in the coming months and Donald Trump will get reinaugurated.
00:19:58.000Look, to prove what happened in the 2020 election, you know, our belief is that there was an intentional effort by billionaires and the left to alter or defy state election rules to benefit Mr. Biden and to use government to do it.
00:20:19.000Now, I believe that we can develop enough circumstantial evidence to prove that there was a design and a plan to do that.
00:20:28.000If that evidence is developed, you're looking at potential campaign finance violations and violations of law, but you're likely, you're not overturning the current election result.
00:20:41.000You are preventing it from happening again.
00:20:45.000And as that investigation and effort moves forward, it could wrap in others who could have been part of this scheme.
00:20:55.000You know, it takes a long time to get to the bottom of this type of organized effort.
00:21:01.000And I'm afraid that what we do is we get a trinket of evidence and we hold a news conference and we raise money on it before we develop it and understand it.
00:21:11.000And if I'm investigating you, Charlie, the last person I really want you to know that I'm investigating you is you.
00:21:18.000You know, I want to move around the circles.
00:21:20.000I want to develop the evidence further.
00:21:22.000And generally, we don't do that in the media.
00:21:26.000Generally, we do that on the ground, so to speak, and develop the evidence.
00:21:30.000So do I believe the election will be overturned?
00:21:33.000No, I don't see a procedure to do that.
00:21:35.000Do I believe that currently the election and the results we can have faith in?
00:22:14.000First of all, what's remarkable about Georgia, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin is the similarity.
00:22:23.000The similarity is the flow of Zuckerberg money.
00:22:26.000The similarity was the consolidated counting centers.
00:22:29.000The similarity was treating Republican areas differently than Democrat areas.
00:22:34.000The similarities were doing special events, ballot harvesters, professionals going out and picking up ballots, drop boxes every street corner in Democrat strongholds, and making it a Where's Waldo weekend retreat to try to find a voting place in rural Republican areas.
00:22:50.000The similarity is blue state governors shutting down in-person polling as they are mailing absentee ballots to everybody and then inviting in this private money in the urban core to spend more money to turn out Biden voters.
00:23:04.000Those are all similarities that show a common scheme, common funding, common plan, and a two-tiered election system, a shadow government that ran the election to benefit Mr. Biden and to harm the Republican candidate.
00:23:24.000That's what we see in all these areas.
00:23:27.000And what your viewers might not know is in these counting centers, this is important.
00:23:32.000I'm going to give one example, but it happened in each one of these areas in a same general effort, but a different slight form under state law.
00:23:46.000The Secretary of State mailed out all of the military absentee ballots on the wrong paper.
00:23:52.000What I mean by that is when those ballots came in from overseas and they were laid into the optical scanners that's supposed to count the vote, the paper crumpled so the machine couldn't count.
00:24:04.000So by Michigan law, here's what they do: they take all of those ballots, military ballots, they put them on a desk, and then they get new ballots, pristine, next to them.
00:24:17.000And these election officials then complete the ballot by transposing the vote over to a new ballot and casting it.
00:24:25.000So they're actually casting ballots for people who aren't there.
00:24:29.000Now, the law very clearly in all these states says you got a Republican and a Democrat at the table looking this over.
00:24:52.000Now they claim they couldn't find any in a city that had over 300,000 Republicans and a city in which Trump did better in 2020 than any Republican candidate in years.
00:25:06.000And they claim, and plus we have a list of pages of people who tried to volunteer.
00:25:41.000You go back to 2015, look up machines, just Google machines, glitch, elections.
00:25:49.000You'll get hundreds of Googles and you'll see the left complaining about how our elections were run.
00:25:55.000You'll see many of the people who saying, don't take a look now, said our election system is flawed back then.
00:26:02.000What you've got is this Trump hatred bias by the media that they refuse to be rational about this.
00:26:11.000These elections need to be investigated thoroughly and completely.
00:26:16.000And we need to hold the people accountable who injected such doubt in the 2020 election.
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00:29:27.000What failed in this election is Republican leadership in state legislatures, and they refused to take a look at the election.
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