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00:01:52.000Garrett O'Boyle, who testified in front of the House Judiciary Committee and the FBI, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, has tried to destroy his life, but he's not letting that happen.
00:02:02.000Garrett O'Boyle, FBI whistleblower, joins us now.
00:02:18.000So I started providing protective disclosures to Congress after I started seeing things inside the FBI that were not aligned with my oath to this country and to the Constitution.
00:02:32.000I think more importantly than that, they also weren't in line with my faith as a Christian.
00:02:40.000I got to a point where I just, I couldn't go on continuing to know that things had gotten so far off the rails in the FBI and day in and day out going and trying to keep my head down and focus on my particular area of things where I could say, hey, well, I'm doing the right thing with my little piece of the puzzle, knowing that there are a multitude of things going wrong inside the agency.
00:03:09.000Even after I got suspended, they gave me the quote-unquote opportunity to provide a written statement trying to counteract some of the suspension actions against me.
00:03:23.000And in that statement, I included a verse from James chapter 4 at the end of the chapter.
00:03:28.000It says, for those who know to do the right thing and fail to do it, for him it is sin.
00:03:34.000And that is an absolute pillar of my faith.
00:03:38.000And it's an absolute pillar of the Christian faith.
00:03:41.000And I think in large part that is the crux of why I started providing those disclosures to Congress.
00:03:48.000And in retaliatory fashion, they made an allegation against me that has been completely false from the start.
00:03:58.000I won't get into too many of the details yet since there's ongoing litigation and internal processes with the FBI.
00:04:06.000But yeah, so they ended up suspending me on false pretenses.
00:04:11.000And at that initial point, I told them, well, this allegation is not true.
00:04:18.000And I have been making whistleblower disclosures and protective disclosures to Congress, but they had already made up their mind.
00:04:26.000And that was in the middle of a transfer from Wichita, Kansas to the Quantico area of Virginia.
00:04:35.000So I had tried out for a new specialty unit that was being established.
00:04:49.000They knew my wife was pregnant at the time, but we still went forward with the transfer in good faith, thinking that there was nothing amiss.
00:05:01.000I had no idea that this was coming, none at all.
00:05:05.000But I did find out later that those in my management in the Kansas City field office did.
00:05:11.000They did know, and they still allowed us to carry on with that transfer and sell our house and have a baby and then let me report before we closed on our new house in Virginia.
00:05:24.000So we were never able to close on that house because once the lender found out there was an adverse employment action, they wouldn't let us go forward with the loan.
00:05:33.000So, you know, as I said in my testimony yesterday, they rendered my family homeless with three very young girls and a newborn baby girl as well.
00:05:42.000And, you know, it has been a very difficult time for me and my family.
00:06:28.000I have lived that oath in Iraq and Afghanistan.
00:06:32.000But I didn't swear that oath for the FBI to destroy my family.
00:06:36.000And so, in large part, fighting for them and fighting for our faith and fighting for the people of this country is really what has brought me here.
00:06:48.000So, Garrett, that's heroic and courageous.
00:06:51.000Garrett, can you tell us what were the, as you say in your words, things that were going wrong, the troubling instances that you started to see in the FBI?
00:07:06.000So, just some of the ones that are public that have been released in the public domain, I can touch on.
00:07:13.000I was advised to stay away from some of the other things just because they're still protected.
00:07:20.000And my counsel said, just don't get into stuff that isn't already out in the public domain.
00:07:25.000So, one of the things in the judiciary report that they released prior to the hearing yesterday from my closed-door deposition back in February, which as an aside, I headed into that deposition under the belief that it was confidential and private, and I was told not to talk about it.
00:07:49.000And then a few weeks later, my name and limited excerpts of my deposition and even outright falsities and lies and obfuscations were leaked to the media.
00:08:00.000And so that's how my name first got out there.
00:08:03.000But anyways, I think a primary example is I had a militia violent extremism case.
00:08:14.000But in the FBI, they had me open up four separate cases because there were four individuals involved with that case.
00:08:21.000Now, for whatever reason, the FBI's policies indicate that for anything terrorism, quote-unquote, terrorism-related, you open a case on each individual.
00:08:31.000But say I had a case on a gang and I had four people who were part of this gang that I was investigating.
00:08:38.000You would open one case and you would have a sub-file for each individual, you know, John Doe, one, two, three, and four.
00:08:46.000But for whatever reason, and I think it's so the FBI can say, look, look at all the terrorism.
00:08:52.000They can go to Congress and say, we need more money.
00:09:01.000I think they're hiding the ball there to kind of muddy the waters on what the American people know about the types of crimes that they're actually investigating.
00:09:13.000And I know after some of that testimony was leaked, the FBI responded and said something to the effect of, you know, that's just false, that we manipulate statistics like that.
00:09:24.000Okay, they can claim that all they want, but I think the American people need to be the deciding factor here and say, well, if an agent is pretty much submitting every single document that he writes to all four of those cases, why isn't it just one case?
00:09:40.000Because that's how you would do it in a gang case, for instance.
00:09:48.000And I mean, there are many, many others that me and other whistleblowers have talked about, but I think that's a primary one to show that when the FBI says, look at all the terrorism we're investigating, look at all the domestic terrorism.
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00:12:25.000The process is the punishment, as me and Steve Friend and Kyle Serifin and others have said.
00:12:31.000And I think they do that on purpose, to make you just want to quit, because then you literally have zero recourse at that point because they say, well, you resigned on your own.
00:12:42.000And they tell your colleagues that, you know, like I mentioned in my testimony yesterday, I know for certain, I've had it verified by more than one person that my first-line supervisor in Wichita, after I was suspended, had a squad meeting and told all my former colleagues who I worked with for years that I was going to be arrested, charged, and fired.
00:13:06.000And it's like, he's not privy to that information unless he's part of the investigation, which I would say is probably some type of violation since he's just a local level supervisor, not HR or security division or anything like that.
00:13:22.000But then he's going and slandering my name to all these people that I used to work with, and that really chilled their speech.
00:13:29.000It took a while for even the first person to reach out kind of on the side and say, hey, man, I'm sure you're going through a hard time.
00:13:37.000But then, oddly enough, after yesterday, a small contingent more of people have reached out to me and said, man, I had no idea.
00:13:45.000They told us not to talk to you and things of that nature.
00:13:50.000Why would they tell you not to talk to me?
00:13:51.000You still have a First Amendment right to speak to whoever you want.
00:13:55.000I can still be your friend and a former colleague, but they chill that speech of those current FBI employees.
00:14:03.000And it's also sent as a sign and a signal to them.
00:14:08.000If you step out of line, which I would say whistleblowing isn't stepping out of line, it's a good thing.
00:14:14.000We're supposed to have people in government who say, hey, this is wrong.
00:14:18.000The American people need to know about it, so I'm going to go to Congress or any of the other avenues you can go to for a protective disclosure.
00:14:26.000But instead of the FBI, they say, nope, it reminds me of the Hoover era of the FBI where they just destroy any type of dissent, and they just want yes men, which is, I think, the absolute opposite of what we need in law enforcement.
00:14:44.000Well, it sure seems like that's what's happening.
00:14:46.000And do you think that the D.C. field officer, Christopher Wray, is letting this happen or is orchestrating this?
00:14:54.000You know, I don't know how much he has his hand in it.
00:14:58.000He has said himself before that he's rather insulated.
00:15:04.000So I think the seventh floor of the Hoover building is really who's running the show, and they're the ones who are squashing this dissent.
00:15:12.000But as the director of the FBI, he should have a better handle of the organization than to let people under him just destroy people's lives who are trying to shine a light on their darkness.
00:15:27.000In closing here, one minute remaining.
00:15:30.000How, if at all, can the FBI be fixed or remedied?
00:15:35.000You were in a field office before, right, in Kansas, Kansas City, if I'm not mistaken from what you mentioned.
00:15:41.000And then is this a rot all throughout the FBI?
00:15:50.000So, I don't know that it's a rot for the whole organization.
00:15:54.000In Kansas City, in the Kansas City field office, where I was, and the resident agency down in Wichita, and I would imagine most other field offices, by and large, there are decent people who want to do the right thing, but then they get to a point where they're too afraid to speak out about malfeasance in the organization.
00:16:13.000I think the real rot is the headquarters element and the people we call blue flames inside the organization.
00:16:21.000So, those are the type of people who just want to get promoted.
00:16:24.000They don't really care about the Constitution.
00:16:26.000They don't really care about doing actual work on behalf of the American people.
00:16:30.000They just like the status and ego that it brings.
00:16:32.000We have to somehow figure out a way to fix that.
00:16:35.000Well, I want to thank you for your courage, Garrett.
00:16:37.000We're going to be sending you an invite and all the FBI whistleblowers to come to our event this summer.
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00:19:30.000I said in the first hour, my current take on the last week's events, last couple weeks' events, I should say.
00:19:36.000Tony Blinken with the Intel Letter, 50 Intel officials fraudulently signing that letter, the Elon Musk discoveries from Twitter that FBI and Twitter colluded.
00:19:45.000And then, of course, the Durham report, which was nothing new, but it was confirmation of what we already knew, is that I believe there's going to be an active seditious conspiracy going in 2024.
00:19:54.000Kurt, if you were the Democrats and you were at the Aspen Institute and you were whiteboarding the 2024 plan, what are they going to do in your guesstimate to try to interfere with the 2024 election to try to re-implement whomever their candidate is?
00:20:11.000Well, look, I think you're going to see a multi-pronged attack.
00:20:15.000The first is, once again, trying to game the system and change the rules.
00:20:20.000And unfortunately, we as Republicans pick the same person who failed to defend against that in 2020.
00:20:27.000I've told this story many times before.
00:20:29.000When I got to Nevada one day after the election in 2020, the GOP had one lawyer on the ground, one guy.
00:20:39.000But the dog was not a lot of help in spending the six months before the election preparing the battlefield.
00:20:45.000I have seen zero plan from Rona McDaniel.
00:20:49.000Maybe there is one, but you know, it would be nice to know it.
00:20:53.000The second thing that we're going to see is the regime media doing what the regime media does and attempting to destroy whoever they think is going to win the primary.
00:21:03.000If it's Donald Trump, Donald Trump will be the worst thing in the history of humanity.
00:21:08.000And if it's Ron DeSantis, Ron DeSantis will even be worse than Donald Trump.
00:21:12.000And if it's Nikki Haley, a giant meteor is going to hit the earth and it's all going to be over.
00:21:16.000Anyway, finally, we will see, I have no doubt, the laws and the judicial system used to essentially frame Donald Trump if he's the nominee.
00:21:32.000And I would not be surprised to see the same thing against anybody who happens to beat Donald Trump in the nomination race.
00:21:39.000So, you know, those are the kind of three pillars.
00:21:41.000Exploit the judicial system, regime media, and try and change the election rules.
00:21:47.000Yeah, so Kurt, they're going to do something.
00:21:50.000It's going to be a launch seditious conspiracy, and we have to keep talking about it.
00:21:54.000What is your reaction on the Bearham report then?
00:21:57.000I mean, I'm bitter over the whole thing.
00:21:59.000My whole tone this week has been a little bitter, I'll be honest, just because none of these people go to jail.
00:22:05.000Our wonderful audience has been repeatedly emailing us, Kurt, at freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:22:27.000No, cynicism is the appropriate response to this.
00:22:29.000We need to understand that this is not the same country we grew up with.
00:22:33.000For those of us my age, it's not even the same country my kids grew up with.
00:22:37.000This is a different country, a less free country, a country where the institutions have been captured by the left and they are running on residual respect and deference by normal people.
00:22:49.000You know, I grew up watching Ephraim Zimbless Jr. in the FBI when they were chasing bank robbers and communists, you know, doing God's work.
00:22:57.000And there's still 20 FBI shows apparently on free TV.
00:23:01.000Apparently, there are people out there who still watch network TV, as bizarre as that seems.
00:23:06.000And the people watching those shows really don't understand.
00:23:09.000The FBI is a garbage organization whose corruption is only matched by its incompetence.
00:23:14.000The institutions we used to believe in have completely betrayed our trust.
00:23:18.000That's everything from the military to the judiciary to the freaking guys who make beer.
00:23:28.000I don't want to misgender them, Charlie.
00:24:05.000Ford's new commercial where they have rainbow pickup trucks and they're celebrating it.
00:24:10.000It's as if they either don't care or they really care about these ideas and they hate us and they're so untouchable or they've been corrupted by HR departments.
00:24:20.000And what am I, what are we missing here, Kurt?
00:24:23.000Well, look, our ruling class, the Ivy League nitwits who do things like get marketing degrees and then get hired at Miller Light or Bud Light or Ford and have absolutely no connection to the actual audience, they are still running on residual respect.
00:24:40.000I wrote about in town hall this morning.
00:25:40.000Just go back 50 years, you have Nixon's silent majority.
00:25:43.000Go back to the 1980s, you see the movement that threw Jimmy Carter out.
00:25:49.000Jimmy Carter is the only guy who's happy about this, Charlie, because, you know, he's finally not going to be the worst president of the last hundred years.
00:25:56.000So, you know, Jimmy's got that going for him.
00:26:02.000It is inevitable that normal people will push back.
00:26:06.000And once that happens, I think we're going to see the institutions either collapse and new ones rise to take their place, or the institutions figure out, yeah, we better change or we're in trouble.
00:26:27.000I think there's another element to this, though, Kurt.
00:26:31.000When I talk to normies and I show them all this, there's a resistance because it's almost as if they started to believe what we believe their life would get less comfortable.
00:26:47.000That it's as if the, oh, no, everything's fine.
00:26:51.000And let's just go drink Chardonnay at the local restaurant.
00:27:03.000And not to, I mean, just forgetting we just lived through three years of dystopian insanity, hell of the masks, the lockdowns, the vaccines, and nobody wants to remember it.
00:27:25.000Look, it's human nature, Charlie, because if you accept that our institutions are run by a bunch of cultural communists who hate us, and if you put Dylan Mulvaney on a beer can, you hate beer drinkers.
00:27:46.000This is the whole basis of Mike Pence's soon-to-be humiliating campaign failure, which is if we shut our eyes real tight and pretend real hard, we can go back to 2005.
00:28:08.000And again, I wrote about in town hall, the normalcy bias.
00:28:12.000If you accept that things have changed fundamentally for the worse, you are therefore required to do something.
00:28:21.000And you look at a lot of, you look at a lot of our Republican politicians and a lot of the conservative guys, and it's like, well, I don't want to actually have to fight.
00:28:29.000Look, yet, when you see somebody go, well, you know, this guy in the subway, we have to see how the judicial system works.
00:28:36.000And if we question the judicial system, it'll all collapse.
00:29:44.000They take one institution, they turn it into a machine to pump out more leftism, and all the other institutions around it get infected.
00:29:53.000None of this is a surprise if you understand how communists work, but it is unsustainable in the long term when people are aware of it and when they act.
00:30:04.000And eventually they will act because I just don't see Americans going, well, you know, this experiment in freedom and liberty and civil rights and all that stuff.
00:30:13.000It was fun while it lasted, but I'm going to sit down, watch, you know, FBI, the revenge on CBS at nine o'clock with a glass of Zima or bloodlight and just, you know, and enjoy being a serf.
00:31:32.000I have We'll Be Back, The Fall and Rise of America.
00:31:36.000It's an optimistic look at where we are and where we're going to go.
00:31:40.000We've talked a lot about how things are tough.
00:31:42.000I think we're going to win in the end because we're Americans, damn it.
00:31:46.000And these people are too unaccomplished and stupid to lose to.
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00:31:57.000America is split into two, red and blue.
00:32:00.000And I've got an operator character who goes into the blue area and it's crazy and fun.
00:32:25.000You got to wonder when that breaking point happens.
00:32:27.000So, Kurt, knowing what we know and being uncomfortable with the truth, which is the truth will set you free, but there's definitely some turbulence on the way.
00:32:38.000How do we then go about waking up other people?
00:32:41.000This is just a more philosophical question.
00:33:04.000You had people actually breaking into the zoo to eat zebras because they had no meat.
00:33:09.000And if you actually care about your people and you see them breaking into the zoos to eat zebras because they have no meat, you're going to say, maybe my socialist stuff doesn't work.
00:34:29.000I think that unfortunately the pain needs to increase in the country because there has just been an unrestricted flow of pleasure for year after year.
00:34:38.000And people are just so afraid of losing that, including the comfort in the denial.
00:34:42.000So I want to re-emphasize one thing you said here, Kurt.
00:34:44.000I mean, you've spent some time in the Republican Party.
00:34:47.000You know, we're getting a lot of emails.
00:34:48.000They said, well, Charlie, you're talking about the wargaming on the right.
00:34:51.000What is the plan for the RNC and the right?
00:34:55.000Kurt, you and I both know there is no plan, right?
00:35:13.000They'll fight hard, but they want to know you're doing your job as a leader, that you've got some idea of what's going on, that you're just not going to lead them into a wood chipper.
00:35:35.000She's still making the same mistakes that she made before.
00:35:38.000She needs to come out and say, guys, this is what we're doing.
00:35:43.000I am telling you what we're doing and how we're doing it so that you can see that your donations aren't being squandered, your time's not being wasted when we ask you to knock on doors and make calls, and that I'm getting stuff ready for the fight we all know is coming.
00:36:00.000That's what she needs to do as a leader.
00:36:02.000Instead, she's, I don't know what the hell she's doing, going on TV, talking about policy.
00:36:07.000I don't care about what Rona McDaniel thinks about policy, not even a little.