The Charlie Kirk Show - Ellis Island vs. Hart-Celler + AMA 271

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00:01:17.000 Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:19.000 We are here in Phoenix, Arizona, live this Friday, June 26th.

00:01:23.000 Is it June 26th?

00:01:24.000 I thought yesterday was June 26th.

00:01:25.000 It is the 26th of June.

00:01:26.000 Well, good.

00:01:27.000 I'm not wrong.

00:01:28.000 How are we doing, Blake?

00:01:29.000 We're doing excellent.

00:01:30.000 Wonderful.

00:01:30.000 We just got good news.

00:01:32.000 Well, there is good.

00:01:33.000 You're talking about the Tyler Robinson stuff?

00:01:35.000 Yes, of course.

00:01:35.000 Yes.

00:01:36.000 So we do have an update.

00:01:36.000 Judge Graff ruled on the contempt.

00:01:40.000 Portion of the case involving Tyler Robinson to bring the audience back up to speed.

00:01:47.000 So there was obviously an ATF report that was referenced in a defense motion.

00:01:53.000 Now, the defense motion said that the bullet didn't match the gun, all right, or something to that effect.

00:01:58.000 Daily Mail took it, spun it, the internet went crazy, 25, 30 million impressions later.

00:02:03.000 So the prosecution came out and they said, actually, hey, whoa, that's not what the ATF report says.

00:02:10.000 The ATF report says the bullet was too badly damaged to conclusively.

00:02:14.000 Without any question, using ballistics reporting of striations on the bullet, et cetera, to match it to the gun.

00:02:21.000 But we have plenty of other reason to believe that the gun matches the bullet and all this other evidence.

00:02:26.000 But just more generally, it's that it can't be provably linked to this specific gun, and people spun it as it is disproven.

00:02:36.000 It is not possibly linked to this gun.

00:02:38.000 So the prosecution went and corrected the record, but that's not why he's being held in contempt, this particular prosecutor.

00:02:45.000 Why he's being held in contempt is because then after.

00:02:48.000 Clarifying the record, which the judge admitted and concurred that he had a reasonable rationale and expectation to clarify the record, he went on and said, We have an overwhelming case, the state does, against Tyler Robinson.

00:03:01.000 That he said is unfairly prejudicial to the jury.

00:03:04.000 Okay, so that's the big case.

00:03:06.000 It's basically a slap on the wrist.

00:03:10.000 So here's actually a legal analyst from Fox News.

00:03:13.000 I saw this clip as I was prepping for the show this morning.

00:03:16.000 I thought he did an excellent job.

00:03:18.000 I'll play it for you SOT 27.

00:03:21.000 How does the contempt charge against Chris Ballard, the prosecutor, how does that affect the case?

00:03:27.000 Would they pull him off?

00:03:28.000 Does it do anything else to the prosecution?

00:03:32.000 I think it'll have no effect whatsoever.

00:03:33.000 And I think the best way to look at this whole thing is this was a win for the prosecution.

00:03:38.000 Yes, they were found in contempt, but they were not found in contempt for the bigger issue about correcting the ATF report.

00:03:45.000 That was really what this was all about there was false information out there.

00:03:48.000 The prosecution felt that they had to act and had to act quickly to correct it so it would not create.

00:03:54.000 This spun out of control false narrative.

00:03:56.000 So it will have absolutely no effect on the prosecution.

00:04:00.000 But again, I marvel actually at Judge Graff's ability to navigate these with nuance, with impartiality, fairness.

00:04:10.000 All of this is important because ultimately, when this case is done, it will be up for appeal.

00:04:17.000 And he's being very careful not to give any reason for this trial to be overturned.

00:04:21.000 It makes you really admire the capabilities of people we have randomly in middle America because this is not even the largest county in Utah, it's south of Salt Lake City.

00:04:32.000 And just out, you know, he's never expected.

00:04:35.000 He probably mostly handles incredibly minor cases.

00:04:38.000 And then suddenly, the most famous criminal case in the country that's going to be consuming possibly two, three years of his life drops into it.

00:04:46.000 And I feel like he's handled it all quite well.

00:04:49.000 He's handled it well.

00:04:49.000 I mean, it's slow and deliberate.

00:04:51.000 Certainly, I would love to Blake's points that he's made on this show multiple times.

00:04:55.000 I would love for this stuff to be faster.

00:04:57.000 You know, I always think about this, and I'm not saying this is exactly where I want to go.

00:05:00.000 I'm just saying the contrast and the juxtaposition mentally is just wild.

00:05:06.000 Remember when we went into Iraq and they found, you know, Saddam Hussein hiding in a cistern or whatever it was.

00:05:13.000 Spider hole, they called it.

00:05:13.000 Spider hole.

00:05:15.000 And literally within like two or three weeks, I think he was hanging in the public square.

00:05:20.000 Oh, it took a while.

00:05:20.000 I remember that.

00:05:21.000 It took a couple of years, actually.

00:05:23.000 No, I don't think so.

00:05:24.000 Anyway, the point is the pace of justice in this country is abysmally slow.

00:05:24.000 We'll look it up.

00:05:29.000 But once again, I admire Judge Graff's deliberateness, how careful he's being, and how dispassionately and impartially he's approaching everything.

00:05:38.000 I think that's actually really.

00:05:39.000 Really important, and it's a good thing when we want to get justice in this case.

00:05:44.000 All right, we are going to now transition to some of the continued fallout from the DSA sweep in New York. 0.89

00:05:54.000 And it occurs to me, Blake, that the Democrat Party has been sustained upon a coalition of 14th Amendment blacks, like the black Americans, especially after the Civil Rights Act, and Ellis Island immigrants. 0.66

00:06:12.000 And they are being supplanted. 0.89

00:06:14.000 By the Hart Cellar immigrants and the 1990 Immigration Act. 1.00

00:06:17.000 Exactly. 0.78

00:06:18.000 We should, yeah, we should explain that because we had Ellis, America's had two truly dramatic waves of immigration in the past 150 years.

00:06:25.000 We have, you could call it the Ellis Island Wave.

00:06:28.000 That kicks off maybe about 10, 15 years after the Civil War, runs 1890s, 20, or 1890s, 1900s, 1910s. 0.63

00:06:39.000 We get millions of people into America, and then America decides too many of these, and they slam the door, and we Digest those Americans for decades, but that still is the bedrock of FDR's New Deal coalition. 0.65

00:06:52.000 You have these big cities, they have Italians, they have Eastern Europeans, they have Jewish Americans, and a lot of them are sort of the bedrock of the Democratic Party, along with Black Americans. 0.91

00:07:03.000 Yeah, a lot of Papists, a lot of people. 0.66

00:07:05.000 The Democratic Party was very Catholic throughout this period, and that's the Democratic Party, but now we're at the point they got digested. 0.76

00:07:12.000 A lot of them, they're not Democrats anymore. 0.82

00:07:14.000 They got assimilated.

00:07:15.000 The Catholics voted for Trump. 0.81

00:07:17.000 I like to say that a sign of my assimilation, I'm mostly German, I'm Catholic. 0.52

00:07:21.000 But I like reading English history a lot more than I like reading German history.

00:07:26.000 I identify far more with England.

00:07:27.000 You've been thoroughly English, I've been totally assimilated.

00:07:30.000 But Democrats, that's not going to work for them because they can't handle people who love America.

00:07:36.000 So they need to build a new coalition.

00:07:38.000 So, as you say, the Hart Cellar Act, that's the shorthand for Ted Kennedy's bill, changing, massively liberalizing our immigration laws, 1965 onward, continuing in 1990, the biggest immigration wave of any country in human history, and much more alien people. 0.92

00:07:56.000 Now we're getting more. 0.80

00:07:57.000 We're getting Muslims, we're getting Hindus, we're getting way more East Asians, not nearly as culturally Christian or European. 0.99

00:08:03.000 Well, everybody thinks of immigration.

00:08:06.000 Not everybody.

00:08:07.000 It used to be in the country that a lot of people thought of tabula rasa, right?

00:08:10.000 That we are a blank slate that you can.

00:08:12.000 Incorporate any culture and it will be seamless and easy.

00:08:16.000 Once they come to America, they'll realize the blessings of freedom and capitalism and orderliness and the free market. 0.88

00:08:22.000 No. 0.99

00:08:24.000 What happens now is if you, and go full screen on me if you can, guys, if you were saying, like, here's America in the 1920s, and then you get this huge immigrant wave from Southern and Eastern Europe, this is about how alien they were. 0.90

00:08:39.000 About like this much space. 0.94

00:08:41.000 Guess what happened after Hard Seller? 1.00

00:08:43.000 The immigrants, you can't even see it. 1.00

00:08:45.000 It's off screen. 1.00

00:08:46.000 Okay.

00:08:46.000 It's like way over there.

00:08:47.000 How alien they are to our starting point. 0.98

00:08:50.000 The assimilation challenge is first and foremost much more difficult because they are much more alien to our country. 1.00

00:08:58.000 But secondly, our country lost its backbone and its courage and its self confidence. 0.79

00:09:03.000 So now it's racist to ask them to assimilate.

00:09:05.000 Now it's racist to suggest they follow our laws. 0.81

00:09:08.000 It's racist to suggest that they should not get on welfare instantly and work with an NGO to game our system.

00:09:15.000 That's all bigoted. 0.99

00:09:16.000 And hateful, and we love our immigrant communities, and they add diversity and ethnic food and all this other garbage. 1.00

00:09:24.000 Gotta have the ethnic food. 1.00

00:09:26.000 This is exactly how communism gets ushered in, how foreign ideas, foreign grudges, and foreign tribalism get ushered into America, and it's gotta stop.

00:09:36.000 All right, here's what I wanna tell you about.

00:09:38.000 Their Pew report, Pew did a, they sorted Americans into nine political groups, okay?

00:09:46.000 It's a very, very interesting way to do it.

00:09:49.000 So instead of left v right, we understand that it, Every side is actually really, when you break it down, a coalition of different types of voters.

00:09:56.000 Okay.

00:09:57.000 Now, I did my taxonomy of the right and broke it down into five groups.

00:10:01.000 They have broken it down into nine different groups, ranging from left, very left, to very right.

00:10:07.000 Okay.

00:10:08.000 And they do it by race white, Hispanic, black, Asian.

00:10:12.000 Okay.

00:10:14.000 So, what's interesting about this report and what was kind of the inspiration for our lead today was that blacks and to a lesser extent Latinos. 0.99

00:10:24.000 Are really, really low on the super progressive scale. 0.99

00:10:28.000 And the vast majority of those cohorts fall into order and opportunity left.

00:10:34.000 So, yes, they are left.

00:10:35.000 They are Democrats, but they're not crazy Democrats.

00:10:40.000 They sort of want order and opportunity.

00:10:42.000 They actually are pretty cool with the capitalist system, with having to work for a job.

00:10:47.000 They want order.

00:10:48.000 They want crime. 1.00

00:10:49.000 They want immigration. 1.00

00:10:50.000 Actually, blacks and Latinos tend to be very, very, Bullish on immigration. 1.00

00:10:57.000 They want order at the border. 1.00

00:10:58.000 They want crime dealt with, and they want order in those different respects.

00:11:02.000 So they tend to be more economically progressive, but they want law and order.

00:11:06.000 I think a lot of them, I would define that as they're groups that basically want government programs to pay out. 1.00

00:11:14.000 Sure, but it's something different than what we're seeing with the hard seller immigrants. 1.00

00:11:19.000 It's something different than we're seeing with the 1990 and onward mass invasion immigrants. 0.99

00:11:25.000 So these are people that have been somewhat assimilated into a The customs and norms of America, and you can work with them.

00:11:32.000 And here's the big key. 0.75

00:11:34.000 Blacks, and to a lesser extent, Latinos, don't fully realize what's happening right now. 0.98

00:11:39.000 They don't realize that the Democrat Party is leaving them behind. 0.97

00:11:44.000 They have found new customers, and that is foreigners. 1.00

00:11:48.000 Foreigners that just get off the boat. 1.00

00:11:51.000 They have fewer demands. 1.00

00:11:53.000 All they want is communism. 0.76

00:11:54.000 All they want is to seize the means of production from rich white people and give it away to their constituencies. 0.97

00:12:02.000 This is what you see with Somalia, okay? 0.91

00:12:05.000 That is the most extreme example that you can think of, certainly.

00:12:08.000 But that is a good case study. 0.99

00:12:10.000 And here's, I'll show that it's true. 0.59

00:12:12.000 This is Zoram Mamdani, a foreigner himself, a Muslim, foreigner, Islamo Marxist, 21.

00:12:22.000 We saw today the Supreme Court make a decision that is putting so many people's lives in jeopardy.

00:12:29.000 Many of you know it's a city of 8.5 million people.

00:12:33.000 More than 3 million of us were born elsewhere.

00:12:36.000 I'm one of them.

00:12:37.000 We're a city that's proud of our immigrant heritage. 0.92

00:12:40.000 And when we think about, especially what Haitian New Yorkers have had to deal with, not just for weeks or months or years, but frankly for decades, we have seen a cruelty that has become normalized. 0.90

00:12:54.000 It says 3 million immigrants in New York City. 0.94

00:12:58.000 3 million, more than 3 million.

00:13:01.000 That is crazy.

00:13:03.000 They'll tell you 50%. 0.99

00:13:05.000 They'll tell you New York has always been a city of immigrants, but.

00:13:09.000 What that understates is New York has had its demographics change a lot, even in the past 20 years, since 9 11.

00:13:15.000 Since 9 11, New York is vastly less white, including ethnic whites, Italians, and so forth.

00:13:21.000 It's a lot more Islamic, a lot more Chinese.

00:13:24.000 Like a lot of interesting shifts have happened.

00:13:27.000 And also, it's economically changed.

00:13:29.000 And that's one of the reasons you're able to see this more kind of communist stuff take off. 0.70

00:13:33.000 So, here's what's happening in the Democrat Party to this point you are seeing the rise of the foreigners, the foreign tribalism, sectarianism coming up, and it is It is bitter. 0.70

00:13:45.000 It hates America. 0.75

00:13:47.000 And you're seeing a wedge being driven into the heart of the Democrat Party.

00:13:52.000 And we're even seeing now movement of some Democrats, moderate Democrats, that don't like it.

00:13:59.000 And they are actually signing a pledge, a promise to America, supporting what?

00:14:04.000 Strong borders.

00:14:05.000 Interesting.

00:14:06.000 Capitalism and patriotism.

00:14:08.000 Check this out SOT 22.

00:14:11.000 You know, there are certain things that I believe in that are not being reflected in the current environment. 1.00

00:14:18.000 Especially with some of these races on Tuesday. 1.00

00:14:20.000 And as we said in our pledge, you know, we're for capitalism, not socialism. 0.72

00:14:24.000 We're for safety, not lawlessness.

00:14:25.000 We're proud of America, not ashamed of America.

00:14:28.000 And we need to be promoting those things.

00:14:30.000 And, you know, the far left and the far right, you know, they're all very well organized.

00:14:34.000 But those of us that don't support those far left or far right principles need to do a better job organizing and getting our message out.

00:14:42.000 That reminds me did you see the Politico headline the other day?

00:14:45.000 Democrats grapple uncomfortably with World Cup success.

00:14:49.000 Like, what's there to grapple with?

00:14:49.000 Yeah.

00:14:50.000 By the way, we lost to Turkey in the 98th minute and overage.

00:14:54.000 Anyways, that was, it was really, really annoying.

00:14:57.000 It was going to be a 2 2 tie and then they lost.

00:14:59.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:15:00.000 But the point is, I have a lot of disdain for guys like this because you oversaw the anti white bigotry of the left.

00:15:07.000 You were part of it, you were complicit in it. 0.90

00:15:09.000 And now you're waking up and you're like, oh, they're going to eat me too.

00:15:12.000 Yeah, they are going to eat you too.

00:15:14.000 The eat me last Democrat middle. 1.00

00:15:16.000 Absolute cowards. 0.99

00:15:18.000 Listen, I will take you coming over to Team Sanity if you apologize and you say sorry. 0.99

00:15:24.000 And you learn your lessons.

00:15:26.000 I don't have any faith that this guy is, but what's happening on the left, keep your eye on it.

00:15:31.000 It is an absolute wedge through the middle of that party. 0.85

00:15:33.000 We got Dan Goldman, who's not even being served coffee in New York City because he's Jewish, even though he's been a total loon and a nut job and a far left Democrat himself. 0.89

00:15:43.000 And now they hate him too because his skin's too white and his Jewishness is too prominent. 0.96

00:15:49.000 It's wild. 0.80

00:15:50.000 It's wild what's happening over there. 0.99

00:15:52.000 And it's completely foreign.

00:15:53.000 It's completely foreign to what America has always been and what it should remain.

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00:18:42.000 All right, Joshua.

00:18:43.000 You have.

00:18:44.000 So I've been ripping off parts of your taxonomy of the right, and it's really helpful.

00:18:48.000 What's interesting is that Pew has created a taxonomy of left and right, and they've divided it into nine groups. 0.97

00:18:54.000 And what's interesting is what we're examining is that the heart cellar immigrants, and I would say the 1990 immigrants, again, we expanded legal green card holders from about half a million a year to 1.1 to 1.2 million a year in 1990.

00:19:10.000 Democrats and Republicans, both guilty of this. 0.86

00:19:13.000 And that.

00:19:15.000 Is the largest move of humanity in history, in all the planet ever, just by sheer volume and numbers.

00:19:23.000 And we've absorbed it.

00:19:25.000 I would say better than most cultures and countries could ever hope to absorb something as large as we've absorbed.

00:19:31.000 But yet, everybody has its limits. 0.80

00:19:33.000 And this has supplanted, in many ways, the traditional backbone of the Democrat Party, which would be black Americans, progressive whites, moderate whites, blue dog Dems. 0.57

00:19:43.000 And so there is a huge wedge being driven in the middle of the Democrat coalition. 0.78

00:19:47.000 And candidly, we should exploit that.

00:19:50.000 Thoughts?

00:19:51.000 That's interesting.

00:19:52.000 Well, you know, okay, break that down for me.

00:19:54.000 When you say exploit it, what exactly do you mean?

00:19:56.000 I think that we should exploit it.

00:19:57.000 There's a.

00:19:58.000 Absolutely, there was a rise of moderate Dems saying, We still are patriotic.

00:20:03.000 We're not ashamed of America.

00:20:04.000 We love America.

00:20:05.000 We still love capitalism.

00:20:07.000 Okay, prove it.

00:20:08.000 There's only one party now that represents any of those ideas.

00:20:12.000 Well, and they want their home. 0.94

00:20:13.000 And that's what's going to, I think that's really going to turn the tide for the Democrats moving forward is whenever they actually see, whenever they taste and see the fruit, the rotten fruit of the Hart Cellar Act and third world migration, that is what's going to change hearts and minds. 0.62

00:20:29.000 Whenever they realize that it's not, Not only, I don't use public transportation, so I don't have to worry about getting stabbed on the subway. 0.72

00:20:34.000 Okay, it's not just that.

00:20:35.000 Whenever they realize I can't even go to the park without being like fearing for the lives of my children, that's going to cause a mass exodus.

00:20:43.000 I mean, the exodus, right?

00:20:44.000 We have already had a mass exodus from the madness that the left has promoted over the last however many years.

00:20:50.000 But that is going to be, I think, if we can exploit that, if we can spam all the social medias, all X, all Instagram with all these videos demonstrating, hey, our societies really are becoming unlivable. 0.96

00:21:02.000 Because they are bringing the third world into our country, and we are becoming the third world. 0.87

00:21:06.000 I really do believe that that's. 1.00

00:21:07.000 It's not even just immigration related.

00:21:08.000 I think you're seeing the left is really ideologically boxing itself into being an ideology of decline, an ideology of deprivation.

00:21:17.000 There's actually an incredible debate unfolding in Europe right now, especially because they're coming here for the World Cup.

00:21:22.000 And it's not just that they're seeing how big our stores are, they're also seeing wait, they have air conditioning everywhere in America, and they're having a heat wave in England and in France right now.

00:21:30.000 And there's stories where.

00:21:31.000 People, as Britain is having these 90 plus degree temperatures, people are being told, take out your AC.

00:21:37.000 It's illegal.

00:21:38.000 You didn't get the right permit for it, you don't have the license for the AC and stuff.

00:21:42.000 And they're being told that.

00:21:44.000 And we have the left coming out and basically saying, well, not having AC is actually a left wing position.

00:21:49.000 We shouldn't have AC because it's killing the planet.

00:21:51.000 If we can make politics be, we're the party that will give you air conditioning, and the left says, we hate air conditioning, we'll take it out, we'll be able to win.

00:21:58.000 I hope so.

00:21:59.000 I hope so.

00:22:01.000 Talking about this is because we saw how President Trump was able to appeal to more black Americans.

00:22:07.000 That candidly, they were not as ideologically driven in some ways, but they were like, Hey, I had more money in my pocket when President Trump was in office.

00:22:14.000 And listen, crime was being dealt with.

00:22:16.000 We didn't have this kind of loose notions of just soft on crime and no cashless bail and all this stuff.

00:22:23.000 So I think these are the issues where you can sort of expand a tent moving forward in the left.

00:22:29.000 And listen, I am not one of those people who says, Oh, what's happening in New York is a good thing because we're going to, you know, no.

00:22:35.000 That's a bad thing.

00:22:36.000 The fact that we're even here is abysmal.

00:22:40.000 It is an absolute, it's an indictment of so many years of failed political policies, both from the left and the right.

00:22:48.000 But okay, so we're here.

00:22:49.000 And I'm going to deal with what is true right now.

00:22:52.000 And I do think that there is a wedge issue emerging within the left coalition where you have sort of these blue dog Democrats, you have white Democrats that kind of like their jobs and their lives, and you have blacks and Latinos that want a good economy and they want law and order and they don't want an open border.

00:23:09.000 Those are the issues that can sort of expand the tent.

00:23:12.000 President Trump showed the way a little bit in 2024, and we should exploit that to the max.

00:23:17.000 I think that's good.

00:23:18.000 I'm reading on that note a book called The Camp of the Saints right now.

00:23:22.000 Highly recommends.

00:23:23.000 It's amazing.

00:23:25.000 It's also a big black pill in this book. 0.73

00:23:26.000 It's a black pilling book.

00:23:27.000 It's a traumatizing book.

00:23:28.000 What I'd say stands out about it is it was written in 69, 70.

00:23:32.000 And it feels so much more modern than that in terms of how it recognizes the nature of the left.

00:23:36.000 Well, just to give you a brief, to let people understand what the narrative is, it's basically the destruction of Western society, not because of a fascistic government like the other dystopian novels of that era. 0.83

00:23:47.000 Rather, it is the destruction of Western civilization because a fleet of millions of migrants come to Western shores, particularly the shores of France. 0.95

00:23:56.000 And the West does nothing to stop them because they don't have the heart to maintain their own civilization and stop this invasion that's coming to their borders. 1.00

00:24:03.000 But what's interesting that makes me think the reason I brought it up is because even the immigrants who currently live in France at the time, they go, You guys don't understand. 0.69

00:24:12.000 You can't let this happen.

00:24:13.000 You cannot let this happen.

00:24:15.000 I left those countries.

00:24:16.000 I know what's going to happen.

00:24:17.000 I've had that conversation in countless Ubers.

00:24:20.000 Yes.

00:24:20.000 I will never forget, I was sitting with a Haitian, which is obviously in the news right now.

00:24:25.000 And this Haitian was like, I hate Haitians. 1.00

00:24:27.000 I was like, Well, that's a little bit of a. 1.00

00:24:29.000 I would never.

00:24:29.000 Yeah, you know what I mean?

00:24:31.000 I was just like, you know, we're all made in the image and likeness of God and all that stuff.

00:24:34.000 He's like, he said, well, yes, but I fled there and you do not want to bring these people here.

00:24:40.000 Why is this in the news, right?

00:24:41.000 So the judge, the Supreme Court, rather, just finally ruled on the TPS, which, by the way, they've had TPS since, you know, like over a decade or whatever.

00:24:50.000 15 years.

00:24:51.000 TPS stands for temporary, temporary protected status, which means you go home when the crisis is averted.

00:24:59.000 And I just love Stephen Miller.

00:25:00.000 I, I, I tweeted out last night that he's a total legend because he is just cool, calm, and collected.

00:25:06.000 Be more like this.

00:25:07.000 If somebody comes and confronts you about immigration, it's not 28.

00:25:11.000 Immigration, consider Haiti a safe country.

00:25:16.000 For Haitians, absolutely. 0.97

00:25:17.000 For Haitians?

00:25:19.000 I mean, yes, Haitians live in Haiti.

00:25:19.000 Yes.

00:25:21.000 It's not our position that Haitians should leave Haiti.

00:25:23.000 I mean, it would be crazy for us to say that Haitians couldn't live in Haiti.

00:25:26.000 It's their country.

00:25:27.000 Of course, Haitians should live in Haiti. 1.00

00:25:30.000 That's common sense.

00:25:31.000 Why is that controversial?

00:25:32.000 No, but you've got to understand.

00:25:34.000 That this is hatred and bigoted and racist and all this stuff.

00:25:38.000 He goes on.

00:25:39.000 I just love Stephen Miller clips.

00:25:40.000 So, here we're going to play some more.

00:25:42.000 SOC 24.

00:25:43.000 Do you expect the administration to deport anyone who loses TPS status as a result of this ruling?

00:25:47.000 Well, of course.

00:25:49.000 If you no longer have status in this country, then you're supposed to be deported.

00:25:52.000 And in particular, in the case of the Haitians, the Biden administration flew over vast numbers.

00:25:58.000 It's hard to know the exact number, but there are probably more than a million illegal immigrants from Haiti.

00:26:03.000 That's not counting the border crossings into the United States.

00:26:06.000 So, these are people who've only been here for a few months who are receiving welfare, whose all their ties, all their social connections, all their family is back in their home country of Haiti. 0.98

00:26:15.000 And, of course, that's where they should go. 0.97

00:26:17.000 I love the answer.

00:26:18.000 Well, of course, if you no longer have status in this country, then you're supposed to be deported.

00:26:22.000 Easy. 0.86

00:26:23.000 That's where they should go.

00:26:24.000 It's very simple.

00:26:25.000 And I get this on campus all the time.

00:26:28.000 It's like, even from conservatives, supposed conservatives, that for some reason they seem to believe that we have some kind of moral responsibility. 0.77

00:26:37.000 To bring people into our country, they're like, Yes, we could maybe reduce the immigration. 0.99

00:26:40.000 Talk about that. 0.99

00:26:41.000 No, because a lot of this is a bastardization of scripture.

00:26:44.000 No, that's exactly right.

00:26:45.000 Okay, and obviously, I was a pastor before I do what I do now, which is just like make libs mad on the internet, which is a lot of fun.

00:26:51.000 You're good at it.

00:26:52.000 I'm good at it because what I do is I just say what the Bible says, and it turns out the Overton window has gone so far to the left that you're not even allowed to say out loud what the Word of God says.

00:27:00.000 So that's what I do.

00:27:01.000 But it's very important to understand that what's going on with this mass migration crisis that we're facing, it is. 1.00

00:27:08.000 We should treat it like an invasion.

00:27:11.000 And what is an invasion when we're thinking metaphysically?

00:27:14.000 Well, the God of the universe, the creator of all, has told us that whenever he judges nations, he judges them by bringing invading forces in, right?

00:27:23.000 And so, why are.

00:27:25.000 You know why this just.

00:27:26.000 I'm sorry.

00:27:26.000 Yeah, go ahead and keep going.

00:27:27.000 But this just. 1.00

00:27:28.000 I always think about this that we've basically let in as many immigrants, maybe a few more, than babies we've killed. 0.99

00:27:35.000 Since Roe v. Wade. 1.00

00:27:35.000 That's about right. 1.00

00:27:36.000 That's about right.

00:27:37.000 And so, if you're talking about a judgment on a nation, we are a blood soaked America, and God.

00:27:45.000 God is a just and righteous God.

00:27:47.000 Now, he is merciful to his people, and we cry out for mercy.

00:27:50.000 And by the grace of God, all of us, we are baptized, we know the Lord, we will stand before him covered by the righteousness of Christ.

00:27:56.000 But God judges nations as moral entities.

00:27:59.000 And this is something that's very important.

00:28:00.000 God treats nations, he judges them based on their actions.

00:28:03.000 And so, even though a nation may have a lot of good people in it, God will bring about judgment.

00:28:10.000 Look at Sodom and Gomorrah, right?

00:28:12.000 God judges nations. 0.81

00:28:14.000 Look at Nineveh.

00:28:15.000 Look at, in the book of Amos, he's.

00:28:17.000 Casting judgments upon pagan nations for not submitting to God's law.

00:28:22.000 So we know, like, what ultimately has to happen is that we must repent. 0.99

00:28:27.000 We must turn away from murdering 70 million babies. 0.61

00:28:30.000 We got to acknowledge that.

00:28:31.000 Hey, we let this happen.

00:28:33.000 Yeah, it was the Libs.

00:28:34.000 Yeah, they pushed for it.

00:28:35.000 But what did we do?

00:28:36.000 What did we do to stop it?

00:28:37.000 Almost nothing for so long.

00:28:40.000 And so we are living in a blood soaked America under God's judgment, but God is also merciful.

00:28:44.000 He's merciful.

00:28:45.000 And we are not, we haven't gone over the precipice yet.

00:28:48.000 We need to pray for him to heal our land.

00:28:50.000 And this is, listen, I've got no, like, I want to be very clear because even my mother sometimes, she's like, you're going a little too hard on me.

00:28:58.000 I don't hate that there's a micro and a macro that you have to understand with this stuff.

00:29:02.000 The micro is that, yes, I meet immigrants, I love them, they are sweet people.

00:29:08.000 And then there's a macro where a nation has an obligation to not flood its borders with foreigners, with foreign ideas, and foreign gods.

00:29:16.000 And that is exactly what we've done in this country. 0.92

00:29:18.000 And we need to stop it.

00:29:20.000 Because it is tearing us apart.

00:29:22.000 And you look at New York.

00:29:24.000 Look at Mayor Mamdani.

00:29:25.000 Look at Chevalier.

00:29:27.000 These people hate Western civilization.

00:29:29.000 They hate what you stand for, and they probably hate you.

00:29:33.000 So if that makes me unchristian to defend my home, then I think you're the one with bad theology.

00:29:42.000 Team, do we have these images?

00:29:43.000 Can I throw these up?

00:29:45.000 I just want to give a shout out to our Turning Point Action team.

00:29:48.000 There is so much going on on campus right now.

00:29:51.000 There was just like tons of people coming in and out.

00:29:54.000 This is a war machine, and I love it.

00:29:55.000 So, this is Turning Point Action.

00:29:56.000 This is the largest Arizona class ever.

00:29:59.000 What are these people doing?

00:30:01.000 They're being trained up in chasing ballots to win in November.

00:30:05.000 We're teaching them how to go door to door, send text messages, harass kindly to people to get their ballots in and to encourage them and explain to them the way the process works.

00:30:17.000 I'm not kidding you.

00:30:17.000 In 2024, you will be blown away at this.

00:30:20.000 We had stories of ballot chasers like these that are getting trained right now and being sent out.

00:30:26.000 That we go to a house where the gentleman had like a Trump shrine, like a shrine devoted to Trump.

00:30:32.000 A big waving flag.

00:30:33.000 Yeah, like in the, yeah, like a little bit much, admittedly.

00:30:37.000 But the point is, that person didn't vote.

00:30:40.000 Didn't vote.

00:30:40.000 We'd come in and we'd say, we think we're at the wrong address because this person supposedly hasn't voted, you know, since, you know, 2016.

00:30:48.000 Ah, yeah, man, I keep forgetting about it.

00:30:50.000 Oh, my God.

00:30:50.000 So this is what we have to do to save our country.

00:30:53.000 And I'm so proud of the Turning Point Action team every day.

00:30:58.000 They're hitting the ground running.

00:30:59.000 They're getting these people into the office, hiring, hiring, hiring.

00:31:02.000 We're doing that in not only Arizona, we're doing that in Nevada and New Hampshire.

00:31:06.000 We have offices in all three states.

00:31:08.000 We're building the red wall.

00:31:10.000 Simultaneously, we have guys like Joshua Haynes, and we're doing a whole big training.

00:31:15.000 Do you want to tell them about this?

00:31:16.000 Pick up the mic, right?

00:31:18.000 So, you already went to campuses with us in the last semester, in the spring semester, and we're bringing the gang back together.

00:31:26.000 We're bringing new faces, new names, people that are trying to take these conservative ideas to college campuses and have those debates, those clips that go viral.

00:31:36.000 Tell us about it.

00:31:37.000 Yeah, I'm so excited to be a part of it.

00:31:40.000 I.

00:31:40.000 I actually went on campus the day after the assassination.

00:31:43.000 Like, my heart swelled in my chest for these young people.

00:31:48.000 And I knew, so I was a pastor before, like I said, I was a pastor before I do what I do now.

00:31:52.000 And I knew that these young people were desperate.

00:31:55.000 I didn't know the effect and the impact and how far reaching Charlie Kirk, the impact of Charlie Kirk was until I went on campus and saw.

00:32:03.000 I mean, these young men were just deflated.

00:32:06.000 Like, it was, I mean, heads down in sackcloth and ashes, basically.

00:32:12.000 And so I went there and I actually did a tabling event.

00:32:15.000 Well, I did.

00:32:16.000 I went and just like spoke to the students the day after it happened.

00:32:19.000 And then a week later, I did an event.

00:32:21.000 And it was my first event like that.

00:32:24.000 And within 20 minutes, we had probably 800 students surrounding the table.

00:32:30.000 They were desperate for it.

00:32:31.000 And as I came out there and my entire mission in life at this point, besides saving Western civilization and doing everything I can to do that, and the way that, well, the way that I believe that.

00:32:43.000 That's going, the Western civilization is going to be saved by training up a new generation of young men who will unapologetically apply their faith in politics and culture.

00:32:52.000 So, we need conservative politics that is rooted and grounded in the eternal.

00:32:57.000 So, that's my whole project to take these young men who are right on the issues, but they don't know why they're right.

00:33:03.000 And so, to ground them in the eternal.

00:33:05.000 And so, having the opportunity to do this college tour gives me a lot of FaceTime.

00:33:09.000 Of course, it's fun to own Dunk on the Libs, that's easy.

00:33:12.000 But honestly, what's been More exciting for me is talking with these conservatives and having it out on the ideas and them realizing, wait a second, I have this like gut instinct to like mass deportations, but they don't even know why that's morally right.

00:33:27.000 They have no idea why.

00:33:28.000 They don't have the words.

00:33:29.000 They don't have the words or they don't have the theological grounding.

00:33:31.000 They haven't rooted their politics in the eternal.

00:33:34.000 And that's what I'm trying to train people to do is to say, hey, you're right, but you need to know why you're right actually.

00:33:39.000 And you need to be grounded in it.

00:33:40.000 And so what we've done is we're actually bringing in all these people like Joshua.

00:33:45.000 That are into Phoenix, and we're doing, you know, coaching, debate coaching, training, and kind of going through Debate 101, understanding the difference between assertion and acclaim, and defensive and offensive debate.

00:33:56.000 It's really fascinating stuff.

00:33:58.000 And we're going through the pillars of leftism and all this stuff.

00:34:02.000 It was a great, great class yesterday.

00:34:05.000 It's just like a great time.

00:34:06.000 I mean, if you went over to the other building, I was hooping and hollering and clapping and like dunking on people.

00:34:12.000 I mean, and I love that everybody seemed to get into it.

00:34:14.000 They embraced.

00:34:14.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:34:16.000 The dynamism of it, the.

00:34:17.000 You've got to have fun with this, or it's going to be too much of a drag, and they'll know you hate it.

00:34:22.000 And Charlie, one of the key things he was getting at is if you're going to have someone jeer at you, if they know they're getting under your skin, if they know that you're flustered, if they know you're unhappy, they are going to absolutely run wild.

00:34:35.000 But if you're playing to the crowd and saying, like, yeah, come on, or if you're basking in it, if you're basking in it, if you're getting your own jibes back, they want to see a good fight.

00:34:44.000 It's kind of like that movie Gladiator with Russell Crowe, and the guy's telling him, it's like, it's not enough to win the fight.

00:34:48.000 You want.

00:34:49.000 The crowd has to be entertained.

00:34:50.000 That's right.

00:34:51.000 That's right.

00:34:52.000 Well, and so we went through all of that.

00:34:54.000 How, how, and people, it's funny, they go, is the debate, that's a big question you get, is the debate that you're engaged in, is it to win over the person across from you or is it to create viral clips?

00:35:04.000 And my answer to that is simple yes.

00:35:08.000 Very simple.

00:35:09.000 Very simple.

00:35:10.000 I do have to get to breaking news, Joshua.

00:35:12.000 I'm sorry.

00:35:13.000 Breaking judge in Palisades Fire Trial declares mistrial with jurors unable to reach unanimous decision.

00:35:20.000 10 out of the 12 jurors are set on not guilty for Jonathan Rindergnecht, and two set on guilty.

00:35:30.000 I was reading about that.

00:35:31.000 It seems like they don't have much physical evidence proving this guy's a Luigi Mangione.

00:35:35.000 Almost certainly.

00:35:36.000 But.

00:35:37.000 Aficionato.

00:35:38.000 And I mean, just show a picture of him.

00:35:40.000 I got a picture of him.

00:35:41.000 This is that.

00:35:43.000 That's the guy.

00:35:44.000 And this is why the third worldization of our cities ultimately has a downstream knock on effect when it comes to getting accountability and justice for people that just ruined hundreds of thousands of people's lives.

00:35:59.000 So that's frustrating.

00:36:00.000 Yes.

00:36:01.000 I mean, well, going back to the classic line the third world is not a place, it's a people.

00:36:07.000 Yeah.

00:36:08.000 Yeah. 0.97

00:36:09.000 Some cultures are better than others. 0.99

00:36:10.000 Amen.

00:36:11.000 Even within the United States, Joshua Hames.

00:36:14.000 Reformation Red Pill.

00:36:15.000 That's it.

00:36:16.000 Check him out.

00:36:16.000 He's the man.

00:36:17.000 Come on.

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00:37:20.000 We have some special guests in studio because, as I mentioned in hour one, there's a lot of activity at campus and we love it, want to celebrate it.

00:37:28.000 We've got Kate Scott.

00:37:29.000 You can find her on Instagram at White Squirrel Magic.

00:37:32.000 That's right.

00:37:34.000 I love it.

00:37:35.000 We've got, hold on, Shark Khan.

00:37:38.000 Shark Khan.

00:37:39.000 I didn't want to get it wrong.

00:37:39.000 That's all I'm saying.

00:37:40.000 Shark Khan.

00:37:42.000 And you can find him on Instagram at Real Shark Khan, which is spelled S H A. Wait, I got S H A H R I Q. Shark's got a great, great story.

00:37:55.000 You are a convert to Christianity.

00:37:57.000 Yes. 0.98

00:37:58.000 From Islam.

00:37:59.000 So I want to get into that in just a second.

00:38:00.000 And then we have Lily Kate.

00:38:02.000 You can find her on X at it's Lily Kate.

00:38:05.000 L I L Y, just one L. That's the proper way to spell it.

00:38:07.000 That's right. 0.94

00:38:08.000 All right.

00:38:08.000 So you guys are wanting to go out on campus.

00:38:12.000 So we're doing this big training and you want to pick up the mic.

00:38:15.000 Just let's start there.

00:38:16.000 How has your experience been doing the training?

00:38:20.000 It's been fun?

00:38:20.000 Absolutely wonderful.

00:38:21.000 Yeah.

00:38:22.000 We get debate training, we get media training, we get.

00:38:26.000 Prepped on all the different briefs, all the different topics.

00:38:28.000 I'm just even more excited to go out.

00:38:29.000 Did you guys get dunked on yesterday?

00:38:32.000 For sure.

00:38:32.000 Hardcore dunked on.

00:38:33.000 Yes, absolutely.

00:38:34.000 That's an important first step, I will tell you.

00:38:37.000 Okay.

00:38:38.000 That's really exciting.

00:38:39.000 So these are just a.

00:38:41.000 I mean, there's dozens of people next door actually that are going out and they're going to be on campus and doing debates, trying to bring conservative ideas and conservative values to students and debate the ideas.

00:38:53.000 It's a really beautiful thing.

00:38:54.000 But, Shark, I want to ask you about this.

00:38:57.000 So you.

00:38:58.000 We've spent a lot of time talking about the rise of Islam in the West.

00:39:03.000 You are a Christian and you have a ministry reaching out to Muslims.

00:39:08.000 Tell us about it.

00:39:09.000 Yeah.

00:39:09.000 So, I grew up a devout Muslim, and I'll give you a really quick story about just how deep I was.

00:39:14.000 My father was one of 17 from Pakistan.

00:39:16.000 They definitely know how to be fruitful and multiply. 1.00

00:39:18.000 And he actually saw the second plane hit the Twin Towers in New York.

00:39:23.000 And so, it was absolutely, you know, an incredible, incredible time in my life where the earliest thing I knew, my earliest identity was just that I'm going to be a Muslim and that this is who we are.

00:39:33.000 And I lived in a blue collar town of Firefighters and cops and first responders, and truthfully, that led my earliest identity to being a Muslim.

00:39:40.000 I wanted to defend it with my entire heart and soul.

00:39:43.000 It was everything I knew, everything I bled, it was my mentors of doctors and lawyers all in the community.

00:39:48.000 The truth is, I had no issues being a Muslim, I loved it, it made so much sense for me. 0.76

00:39:53.000 And through trying to defend my faith at the highest level, I was that Muslim guy on the college campuses that would challenge my Christian fraternity brothers on their faith, I would try to rip their faith away from them. 0.79

00:40:02.000 I ended up trying to defend the Quran so much that I would eventually see it for what it was, and I lost my faith. 0.99

00:40:09.000 And in 2020, I left Islam, and actually, I didn't come to Christ right away. 0.88

00:40:13.000 And two years later, when I was extremely suicidal, not having any identity, not knowing how to engage with this world with no faith.

00:40:20.000 So you lose your faith, then you become suicidal.

00:40:22.000 Yes, I became suicidal because I'm not Christian yet.

00:40:23.000 I hadn't let Christ into my life to heal me yet.

00:40:25.000 I didn't know what that meant.

00:40:26.000 I wasn't discipled well into Christ yet. 0.72

00:40:29.000 I actually would have a dream of Christ, and He would nail me on the night that I actually would revert and pray to Allah.

00:40:35.000 Christ actually met me that night.

00:40:37.000 And it was two years later from that moment that I would actually become born again.

00:40:40.000 The faith meant so much to me now that I said, you know, as somebody who finally encountered Christ, I met Jesus through reading the Quran. 0.60

00:40:48.000 That this conviction I had that every religion has to encounter Christ in some way, you have to deal with Christ in some way.

00:40:54.000 When I found out who the true Christ was, it was the moment that sin fell from my soul and I felt the grace for the first time ever.

00:41:01.000 And now I've dedicated my entire life to building this ministry, to bearing my cross. 0.94

00:41:05.000 The thing in Islam that was going to take me off this earth, I now proudly wear as a badge of who Christ is. 0.99

00:41:11.000 And I firmly believe that. 1.00

00:41:12.000 Islam is a sin that will end in our generation. 1.00

00:41:15.000 I firmly believe that the cross is big enough for the 2 billion Muslims. 1.00

00:41:18.000 And I firmly believe that our generation is going to see a revival in Islam of Muslims that is going to strengthen our church.

00:41:25.000 They're going to become Christians.

00:41:26.000 And it's going to be one of the most beautiful moments of who Jesus Christ really is and shining in that moment.

00:41:31.000 God bless you, man.

00:41:31.000 Wow.

00:41:33.000 That gives me so much. 1.00

00:41:35.000 I was just saying, it's such a good take on all of the Islamification. 0.98

00:41:42.000 Sort of negativity that we've been hearing and thinking about. 0.84

00:41:45.000 And you look at Mamdani and you look at what's happening in New York.

00:41:48.000 And that's a beautiful thing.

00:41:50.000 And we talked about in hour one, actually, with Joshua Haynes that, you know, there is a judgment.

00:41:55.000 And I believe it's linked to abortion, actually.

00:41:57.000 If you look at all the immigration that we've had in, it's roughly one to one with how many babies we've killed. 0.99

00:42:01.000 Surprise, surprise. 1.00

00:42:02.000 But God is also a merciful God.

00:42:04.000 And he will heal our land.

00:42:05.000 And we do need to repent and we do need to seek him out.

00:42:08.000 And it's just beautiful that you're a part of God's redemption plan for this story, for this country. 0.85

00:42:12.000 And we could go on for a long time, but I have to play the misracial. 0.91

00:42:15.000 Close. 0.99

00:42:16.000 Let's get into that. 0.94

00:42:17.000 It's a nice segue, Mamdani.

00:42:21.000 It's the most awkward segue I've had in a while.

00:42:24.000 But Kate Scott, here we go. 1.00

00:42:27.000 You are making fun of Miss Rachel, who is huge, and she's basically a commie. 1.00

00:42:31.000 She's huge with kids. 1.00

00:42:32.000 She's getting weirder and weirder.

00:42:33.000 And so you took it upon yourself to take her on. 0.98

00:42:35.000 And this is the Mamdani clip. 0.96

00:42:37.000 There you go. 1.00

00:42:38.000 That'll be the glue here.

00:42:39.000 Sot 35.

00:42:40.000 Hi, friends.

00:42:44.000 Today's letter is M. For Mamdani!

00:42:49.000 Yay! 1.00

00:42:51.000 Mamdani is brown! 0.96

00:42:56.000 Right! 1.00

00:42:57.000 Which is better than. 1.00

00:43:00.000 White! 0.97

00:43:01.000 Good!

00:43:03.000 If Timmy has two houses and DeAndre has none, what should Timmy do?

00:43:12.000 Hmm.

00:43:14.000 I know! 0.89

00:43:15.000 Give him his houses! 1.00

00:43:18.000 Right!

00:43:21.000 Oh my god, man.

00:43:24.000 How real is that, right?

00:43:25.000 Yeah.

00:43:26.000 I mean, I don't really have much to say yet.

00:43:28.000 Yeah, you said it all. 0.98

00:43:30.000 She's a theater girl. 0.99

00:43:31.000 Yeah.

00:43:32.000 It's true.

00:43:32.000 You're like, you're a theater kid, which I've been trained to be very leery of, and yet.

00:43:37.000 Uh oh. 0.99

00:43:38.000 Here you come making me laugh about Mamdani. 0.98

00:43:40.000 I just have to play one more because it's so funny. 0.91

00:43:43.000 Ice clip 36.

00:43:44.000 Hi, friends. 0.96

00:43:48.000 Today's letter is I for illegal aliens. 0.98

00:43:53.000 I mean, it's supposed to say Ice. 0.86

00:43:57.000 Do you know the Ice Agent?

00:44:00.000 The ice agent, the ice agent.

00:44:03.000 Do you know the ice agent?

00:44:06.000 The answer in Spanish is no.

00:44:12.000 Remember kids, plead the fifth or the single. 0.97

00:44:20.000 Yes.

00:44:24.000 That's really funny.

00:44:25.000 Thank you.

00:44:26.000 I noticed it was like hard for you to watch yourself, but these have gone viral.

00:44:30.000 They really have.

00:44:31.000 You got to give the people what they want, right?

00:44:34.000 It's really funny.

00:44:36.000 I wonder if our audience is familiar with Miss Rachel.

00:44:38.000 If you're a parent, you're familiar with Miss Rachel.

00:44:40.000 It's like YouTube pushes her right up to the top of your feet.

00:44:44.000 I think it's a whole lot. 0.91

00:44:44.000 Single liberal young adults are really fond of Miss Rachel as well, too, for some reason, because they're in my comment section angering. 0.91

00:44:53.000 Attacking you? 0.99

00:44:55.000 Yes.

00:44:56.000 What do they say?

00:44:56.000 Aware of her, too.

00:44:58.000 That she's a saint, that she's a true Christian.

00:45:02.000 She is compared to Mr. Rogers and her.

00:45:06.000 You know, social justice and everything.

00:45:09.000 She's everything I'll never be. 1.00

00:45:11.000 Wait, does she not have kids herself? 0.98

00:45:13.000 She does. 1.00

00:45:14.000 Oh, she does have kids.

00:45:15.000 I believe she has two.

00:45:16.000 One was actually through surrogacy. 0.94

00:45:18.000 So that's a fun fact. 0.60

00:45:20.000 And then she was able to have one herself?

00:45:22.000 I believe so.

00:45:25.000 There's got to be a story there.

00:45:27.000 You should look into that and make your next video about how liberal commies don't actually want to bear their own children.

00:45:35.000 I don't know.

00:45:35.000 Maybe it was a medical condition.

00:45:37.000 I don't want to get ahead of myself.

00:45:38.000 That's strange.

00:45:39.000 Maybe she struggled and, you know, All right, whatever.

00:45:41.000 So, Mick has a question that I want to read to you guys.

00:45:46.000 He says, Please read for me.

00:45:47.000 He goes, For the guests, what is the toughest part of the debates and pick up the mics?

00:45:51.000 And what is the most gratifying part of it?

00:45:53.000 We'll start, we'll go in this order.

00:45:55.000 Sure.

00:45:55.000 I mean, I would say the toughest part is you don't know what they're going to ask.

00:46:01.000 I think there's the improv, to bring it back to theater, there's the improv element there.

00:46:07.000 And then the most rewarding, was that the second part he said?

00:46:11.000 Most rewarding, is.

00:46:13.000 Changing someone's mind, of course.

00:46:15.000 Yeah.

00:46:15.000 That they can't prove us wrong.

00:46:17.000 Either in person or online.

00:46:19.000 Right.

00:46:19.000 And then, sorry, more than that is when you do change their mind, ultimately.

00:46:24.000 Yeah.

00:46:24.000 Love that.

00:46:25.000 The toughest part is students will come up with a vague impression of an idea with no sites, no examples, no facts, and they will ask you about it and you'll say, okay, what exactly are we talking about here?

00:46:36.000 And they're like, I don't know, I just saw something online about it two weeks ago.

00:46:38.000 And I'm like, well, let's get something tangible. 0.90

00:46:40.000 But the most gratifying part is I talk to women about why feminism is lied to them, why it's a failure as an ideology and we should. 1.00

00:46:46.000 Completely move on from it as a country. 1.00

00:46:48.000 And usually we'll bring people in with those kinds of anti feminist statements.

00:46:52.000 And they come in, and I address them.

00:46:54.000 I talk, I say their name, I talk to them kindly, I smile at them, and they're like, Oh, you're not really mean and awful and nasty and horrible.

00:47:01.000 And so, when I'm able to actually give a testament and not be exactly what they expect me to be, and they actually have a good conversation experience with me, that does a lot.

00:47:09.000 Awesome.

00:47:09.000 That's amazing.

00:47:10.000 The hardest part I would say is separating the ideology from the person. 0.99

00:47:14.000 And I'll use Islam as a great example. 1.00

00:47:16.000 Like, I love Muslims so much, they're my whole family, my bloodline, my friends, but I stand so firmly against Islam that it is not even funny. 1.00

00:47:23.000 And having to separate your own. 0.99

00:47:25.000 Flesh and like your own beliefs around that, and just loving the person, but being so harsh on the truth and radical ideology.

00:47:31.000 That's definitely the hardest part, but it's probably the most rewarding as well. 0.94

00:47:34.000 I will say the most rewarding though is when I'm debating Muslims on college campuses, they, you know, the MSA, you know, in Islamic culture, the women are not going to engage with the men. 0.66

00:47:43.000 And when I'm engaging with the men on campus and we catch them and we show them some truth or something they didn't know, I always look at the crowd and I notice the Muslim women in the hijabs are the ones that are watching so intently, almost like taking mental notes, and they engage so beautifully with it afterwards. 0.94

00:47:57.000 Like I would never get a chance to talk to them. 0.51

00:47:59.000 But seeing somebody who they've never seen lose a debate on the Muslim side lose to something like a basic point that I would bring up is the most rewarding thing. 0.85

00:48:07.000 What are some of the basic points you bring up in the Islam debate that spins their head up? 0.56

00:48:11.000 Yeah, so a lot of people argue Islam as a Christian heresy.

00:48:15.000 It's actually a rabbinical Jewish heresy.

00:48:17.000 So what I use is I only use the Torah to actually deconstruct just the authority of the Quran. 0.89

00:48:21.000 And I really just press them on the corruption claim. 0.70

00:48:23.000 And the biggest thing, I'll give you probably the most powerful one I have right now in Surah 17, verse 101, it says, O children of Israel, we clearly gave Moses nine clear signs.

00:48:32.000 And it's referring to the ten.

00:48:33.000 Plagues in the Bible.

00:48:35.000 Okay. 0.95

00:48:35.000 But in the Quran, it's nine. 0.95

00:48:37.000 And I press the Muslim. 1.00

00:48:37.000 Well, guess which plague is missing from the Quran? 1.00

00:48:40.000 Guess what Muhammad never heard of? 0.94

00:48:41.000 The Passover, the most important plague. 1.00

00:48:43.000 And so I'll press the Muslims on, well, can you explain the Passover? 1.00

00:48:46.000 A lot of them can't even do it because they never heard of it. 1.00

00:48:48.000 But if they can do it, now I press them.

00:48:50.000 Okay.

00:48:51.000 So the Passover, the festival of unleavened bread, everything in between, it's mentioned in the Bible about 70 times.

00:48:57.000 So if you're going to say that my scripture is corrupted, why did the Jews make up the Passover, the blood on the doorpost, the Passover lamb, the festivals, and then practice it all the way from Exodus?

00:49:06.000 To the Last Supper.

00:49:07.000 Well, it's Christmas.

00:49:08.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:49:08.000 It's a foreshadowing of Jesus being the firstborn son to die.

00:49:13.000 Exactly.

00:49:14.000 As a sacrifice for our sins as Christians.

00:49:14.000 Right?

00:49:16.000 Exactly.

00:49:17.000 So that's fascinating that they would leave out probably the climax of that story.

00:49:22.000 It is.

00:49:23.000 And the one that foreshadows Jesus, the true Messiah.

00:49:26.000 That's great. 0.50

00:49:26.000 Yeah. 0.50

00:49:26.000 Okay, you brought up feminism, and I have the clip loaded now. 0.50

00:49:29.000 You went viral for this, and it looks like you're basically having a realization.

00:49:34.000 Yeah, so we'll play it.

00:49:36.000 We'll play it.

00:49:37.000 It's pretty short, but I love it.

00:49:39.000 Go ahead and play 38. 0.99

00:49:48.000 It's very short, but the caption says, when you realize the feminist movement is a government scam, so they could get the other half of the population working, so they could double their tax intake and raise your children by their standards. 1.00

00:50:00.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:50:00.000 Based. 1.00

00:50:01.000 That's exactly what feminism has intended to do. 1.00

00:50:04.000 And a lot of people think that feminism can take credit for getting women the ability to work at all, the ability to vote, the ability to wear pants, the ability to speak freely. 0.95

00:50:12.000 And I have a speaking series that I'm doing on a lot of college campuses where I bust these feminist myths, like point by point. 0.82

00:50:18.000 And so.

00:50:19.000 My entire life goal is to show women that they are actually the victims of feminism, and it's time to move on.

00:50:24.000 We're not moving back to the 1950s. 0.61

00:50:26.000 We're not moving back to Victorianism.

00:50:27.000 I was going back to the 1990s.

00:50:28.000 I was going back to the 1990s.

00:50:30.000 But the point is, we're not moving back, and a lot of people on the right want to go back to this ideological perfect time, but it's not going to happen. 0.95

00:50:36.000 We need to move on and pass feminism to a spirit of femininity.

00:50:39.000 I won't make random statements that contradict your statement.

00:50:42.000 I'm just saying, the 90s were great.

00:50:44.000 Anthony, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:50:47.000 Please unmute yourself.

00:50:49.000 Hey, Andrew, what's going on?

00:50:50.000 Hey, man, what's going on?

00:50:52.000 Just working.

00:50:53.000 You know, hopefully my baseball team can beat your rival tonight, but that would be asking a lot.

00:50:57.000 Bring it.

00:50:58.000 What are we at?

00:50:59.000 52 wins?

00:51:00.000 You have more than me now, so let's just leave it like that.

00:51:03.000 All right, what do we need?

00:51:04.000 So, actually, so here's my question.

00:51:05.000 And it's kind of funny that you got the three guests on, so maybe they can answer this since they've done training with media and everything.

00:51:12.000 I've seen this because I'm on the campaign committee for my local town supervisor who's Republican.

00:51:16.000 We're trying to take back a one year term from a far left, stay at home, 37 year old dad who really has never worked. 0.94

00:51:23.000 Why do Republicans, and excuse my language in this, I would say, I'll say, suck at messaging? 0.93

00:51:30.000 They have communications people. 0.98

00:51:31.000 They can't communicate anything correctly.

00:51:35.000 They just rather, and I know, Andrew, you and Blake have talked about this, they would rather get up there and just give a press conference or read off a speech.

00:51:41.000 They can't go off the cusp at all.

00:51:44.000 Well, some of them can, but yeah, who wants to take that one? 0.92

00:51:46.000 Why do Republicans suck at messaging so bad? 0.80

00:51:49.000 I'll take it. 0.89

00:51:51.000 Just please, no scary stuff like the Rachel thing.

00:51:53.000 That kind of had me creeped out when I was laughing at it.

00:51:56.000 Hey, That means I did a good job, right?

00:51:59.000 That's the point. 1.00

00:51:59.000 Miss Rachel is a terrifying cultural phenomenon. 1.00

00:52:02.000 You'll never forget it. 0.88

00:52:04.000 No, I won't. 1.00

00:52:08.000 I think that it has a lot to do with conservatives and Christians abandoning ship. 0.98

00:52:15.000 I actually love that sign over there. 0.86

00:52:16.000 It says, don't give up the ship.

00:52:19.000 And I feel like for some reason, the creative gifts have been overtaken by liberals.

00:52:25.000 That's actually one of my main callings, I would say, like why I'm.

00:52:29.000 Put on this earth is to encourage others to use gifts that God gave us for His glory without compromise.

00:52:36.000 And so, for some reason, culturally, when it comes to the creative things like marketing or being able to talk in front of people with messages, it's been abandoned.

00:52:47.000 So, I don't know why that has occurred, but it's time we do it.

00:52:54.000 Part of an institutional capture, like in Hollywood, it became dominated by the left, partly because of our inherent wiring, but then it just went full crazy.

00:53:03.000 Probably around the 70s, 80s, and then it's gone on until now.

00:53:07.000 And, you know, it's a huge problem.

00:53:08.000 So we need the long march back through the institutions and we need to create a counter-institutions, parallel institutions as well.

00:53:15.000 What do you think?

00:53:15.000 30 seconds.

00:53:16.000 Art has always been pushing the boundaries of what's acceptable.

00:53:19.000 And typically, when you're pushing away from Christianity, you push toward the left.

00:53:23.000 And so that is exactly why all of our institutions have been, quote, taken over by the left.

00:53:27.000 But you're right.

00:53:28.000 We need a recovery of creativity and an embrace of creativity on the right so that we can be, quote, unquote, cool again.

00:53:34.000 Right.

00:53:36.000 Well, 10 seconds.

00:53:37.000 We'll pause.

00:53:38.000 I don't want to put you in that kind of bubble there.

00:53:41.000 Great question, Anthony.

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00:55:23.000 We got our Ask Us Anything.

00:55:24.000 We did a hot swap in the break.

00:55:26.000 Now we have Shane Winnings, who is the chairman and CEO of Promise Keepers.

00:55:29.000 You can find him on Instagram at shane.winnings.

00:55:33.000 That's right.

00:55:34.000 Boom.

00:55:34.000 All right.

00:55:34.000 We're going to get into it.

00:55:35.000 He's a great Christian, great debater.

00:55:37.000 He had one of the most viral clips from the last Pick Up the Mic tour during the spring semester.

00:55:43.000 So, our next up, hold on.

00:55:45.000 I got Elizabeth.

00:55:46.000 Elizabeth, welcome to the show. 0.91

00:55:48.000 Please unmute yourself.

00:55:50.000 Hi.

00:55:50.000 Thank you so much for taking my call.

00:55:52.000 Absolutely.

00:55:53.000 And I'm going to be a bit cheeky.

00:55:55.000 I know, but JD Vance watches the show sometimes.

00:55:58.000 I would just get there out there that Charlie would be a great name for your baby coming in July.

00:56:03.000 Ah, there it is.

00:56:04.000 JD Anusha.

00:56:05.000 Did you hear that?

00:56:07.000 I endorse.

00:56:08.000 Very good.

00:56:08.000 What's your question, Elizabeth?

00:56:10.000 Well, the reason I'm calling, and I apologize, the note that I had unfortunately went blank.

00:56:14.000 But basically, when you're filling out any kind of immigration forms, whether it be for the green card, coming in for a work visa, or anything of that nature, you have to fill out your form.

00:56:24.000 That you are not associated with the communist party or totalitarian regime or communism. 0.77

00:56:31.000 So, I was thinking if you are a person who loves communism and you lied on your form, could that be used to denaturalize all of these crazy foreign communists? 0.94

00:56:41.000 And we also use that to clean up our university systems that are filled with foreign communists. 0.98

00:56:48.000 Yes, the short answer is yes. 0.97

00:56:50.000 And we actually talked about that yesterday on the show that you could actually use that to deport some of these DSA radical commies that are.

00:56:58.000 Think they're heading into Congress next year.

00:57:01.000 You could actually use that to deport and denaturalize them.

00:57:04.000 True story.

00:57:05.000 Now, have we ever done that?

00:57:06.000 Have we ever had the guts to do that?

00:57:09.000 As Sean Davis said, who was on the show when we were talking about, do you have the testicular fortitude to do that?

00:57:15.000 Absolutely not.

00:57:16.000 They do not.

00:57:17.000 I would love to see them do this.

00:57:19.000 This is a perfect reason to use such a thing.

00:57:22.000 Now, you have to be very, very careful about who you use it on.

00:57:25.000 Chevalier would be my choice.

00:57:27.000 Okay.

00:57:28.000 And this is why. 1.00

00:57:28.000 Because she started an organization that has. 1.00

00:57:32.000 Proudly and loudly claim publicly that their job is to destroy Western civilization.

00:57:37.000 Okay, so if you want to be a congresswoman from the state of New York, serving the entire country from DC, and you want to destroy that country, you can get the heck out.

00:57:48.000 Shane, am I wrong?

00:57:49.000 No, I totally agree.

00:57:50.000 I mean, even when I was in the military, we take an oath to defend everyone and defeat enemies, you know, foreign and domestic.

00:57:58.000 And I think we need to recognize that these ideologies, they are enemies of what it means to be an American.

00:58:04.000 So, The fact that they can exist in this country, let alone take positions of power, it's mind blowing to me.

00:58:10.000 It feels like we're watching a Black Mirror episode, and we need to do something about it.

00:58:14.000 Yeah, there was this.

00:58:15.000 So you can throw this tweet up.

00:58:17.000 This was from Aesthetica.

00:58:18.000 It said the best thing the Trump administration could do in response to the communist terrorists being elected by New York City Dems is to just denaturalize and deport them using the Immigration and Nationality Act and the Communist Control Act of 1954. 0.83

00:58:31.000 They are completely within the rights to do this. 0.71

00:58:33.000 It will create a national scandal.

00:58:34.000 Of course, it will.

00:58:35.000 Can you imagine the MS Now segments if they actually did this?

00:58:40.000 It would be apoplectic and totally beautiful to watch.

00:58:43.000 It will create a national scandal that will force mainstream Democrats to defend these radical communists, which they don't want to do.

00:58:50.000 They want to ignore them.

00:58:51.000 Most importantly, it sets a precedent and severely hampers the long term plans of the DSA communist left. 0.69

00:58:56.000 Totally agree. 0.80

00:58:58.000 I agree.

00:58:58.000 So hopefully that answers your question.

00:59:01.000 It's just going to take some will.

00:59:02.000 That's all it's going to take.

00:59:03.000 Tim, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:59:06.000 Please unmute yourself.

00:59:08.000 Hey, everybody.

00:59:08.000 Thanks for taking our question.

00:59:11.000 Listen, we're a homeschool family here in Florida, and our daughter, Natalie, really likes to study the American founding.

00:59:18.000 And she's here beside me.

00:59:20.000 She actually has a question she would like to ask.

00:59:22.000 Wonderful.

00:59:23.000 Sweet.

00:59:24.000 Hello.

00:59:25.000 My name is Natalie.

00:59:26.000 Did Charlie have a favorite founding father?

00:59:28.000 And if so, who was it?

00:59:31.000 Yeah, Charlie liked a lot of the founding fathers.

00:59:34.000 I'd say I'd heard him quote the, you know, Madison stuffed a lot.

00:59:39.000 I've heard him quote Adams a lot.

00:59:41.000 Obviously, we all love George Washington.

00:59:44.000 But yeah, Madison, I think because of his contributions to the Federalist Papers, was a big one.

00:59:50.000 John Jay was another writer of the Federalist Papers.

00:59:53.000 So yeah, I would say that's probably my take.

00:59:56.000 I don't know.

00:59:57.000 I wish Blake was here for this, but I'm pretty sure Madison would probably be right up there at the top and Adams.

01:00:03.000 And Adams had that great quote saying the Constitution was.

01:00:07.000 Written for a moral and religious people and was inadequate for any other.

01:00:13.000 And so he often quoted that.

01:00:14.000 He talked about Thomas Paine quite a bit, but Thomas Paine ended up kind of embracing the French Revolution.

01:00:21.000 So I think he liked his quotes, but didn't like the trajectory ultimately of his story, if that makes sense.

01:00:28.000 Does that answer your question?

01:00:30.000 Yeah, thanks.

01:00:31.000 Wonderful.

01:00:31.000 Thank you.

01:00:32.000 Of course.

01:00:34.000 Who do we got next? 0.73

01:00:35.000 Gina? 1.00

01:00:36.000 Gina, welcome to the show. 0.99

01:00:37.000 Please unmute yourself.

01:00:38.000 Hi, everybody.

01:00:41.000 I don't mean to be a downer, but I have to tell you every time I watch your show and Charlie's in the commercials, my heart just breaks.

01:00:54.000 I can't, I was on Charlie's show not long before he passed.

01:01:00.000 I was on your show not long after he passed.

01:01:05.000 I'm sorry, I was with him before he passed, of course, and with you after he passed.

01:01:09.000 I had some questions.

01:01:11.000 When the Candace thing first hit, and I was on your show, and then she played a clip of me on your show, on her show.

01:01:20.000 I'm still, I'm not well about it all.

01:01:24.000 There are still so many questions.

01:01:28.000 And I don't expect you're going to answer those today.

01:01:32.000 I still like to sign on to the show from time to time when I can tolerate it.

01:01:38.000 I want to ask the question to try to keep you guys on track with the topic that you've got going today.

01:01:46.000 My question was your theater, you pointed, Andrew, to a theater leeriness.

01:01:54.000 I would just, theater kids, just like to know a little bit more about why you've got that.

01:01:54.000 Theater kids.

01:01:59.000 I think it's one you share with other people.

01:02:03.000 And then you've got theater kids right there on your show today.

01:02:05.000 So here we go.

01:02:06.000 We have one. 0.95

01:02:07.000 We made one exception, Gina, to the rule.

01:02:10.000 I feel so special.

01:02:12.000 So you're basically wondering, you know, how are we going to protect the country against the rise of the theater kid left?

01:02:21.000 Is that your question?

01:02:22.000 Well, that was something else that was said right after I posed my first question.

01:02:26.000 And I thought that plays right in because, yes, they do.

01:02:30.000 And I don't mean to point fingers at you.

01:02:32.000 Well, she's one of the good ones.

01:02:33.000 So that's good.

01:02:34.000 But yeah.

01:02:35.000 And so, why do you think it is that the theater kid thing is a thing?

01:02:40.000 Why are they so bent that way?

01:02:43.000 I've thought about this a lot.

01:02:45.000 And I think theater offers a family.

01:02:49.000 When you do a show, you're with each other for long hours, for long periods of time.

01:02:54.000 And they call it like your theater family.

01:02:57.000 And so, unfortunately, the kids who don't relate to their parents, for For various reasons, find a new family in theater. 0.89

01:03:08.000 And unfortunately, because Christians have abandoned the theater space, they're performing plays that are leftist, liberal propaganda, leading them down the path of a terrible life. 0.80

01:03:20.000 And so that is the moral of the story that they're putting on with these shows with their new family. 0.91

01:03:25.000 And that sounds like the definition of a cult, slightly.

01:03:30.000 And so it's been like a collection of misfits.

01:03:34.000 Do you guys got theories on this?

01:03:36.000 You know, whenever I see really masculine men being forced into like feminine roles in theater and they get celebrated by like the entire school, I'm like, you know, maybe that's not the best thing to do.

01:03:45.000 And there needs to be something.

01:03:48.000 Let's not go there, okay?

01:03:49.000 Yeah, don't bring him into the theater.

01:03:54.000 That's my hot take.

01:03:55.000 I mean, Jade, you got a take on this?

01:03:57.000 No, I mean, it is the running joke.

01:03:58.000 Like, you know, my kid can do anything except drama or theater.

01:04:02.000 And I think it's just because of.

01:04:04.000 The culture that we're in.

01:04:05.000 It would be great if it could shift the other way.

01:04:08.000 You know, I remember being a young boy doing plays at church.

01:04:12.000 Yeah.

01:04:12.000 And that was cool.

01:04:13.000 But then, you know, the first time I did drama in like seventh grade, I realized this is a very different animal.

01:04:19.000 And maybe that's by design.

01:04:21.000 So I think anything we see that's like corrupting the minds or tends to have a path that the outcomes are kind of the same, I'm going to steer away from that, unfortunately.

01:04:31.000 Yeah, I mean, that makes me sad on some level to hear you say that, though, Shane, because I do.

01:04:37.000 I think that we need to reclaim the institutions.

01:04:40.000 Oh, I agree.

01:04:40.000 Absolutely.

01:04:41.000 Long march back.

01:04:42.000 And so when I see, like, even Top Gun Maverick, for example, Tom Cruise, for all his faults, we could go into them.

01:04:49.000 He's a patriot.

01:04:50.000 He loves America.

01:04:51.000 Through and through.

01:04:52.000 And I felt like Maverick was a great Americana film, and I'd love to see more films like that.

01:04:58.000 Same.

01:04:59.000 And, you know, you see this Citizen Vigilante, which is a German guy that was just kind of had enough, and he was just like, hey, I'm going to tell the real story about some of these grooming gangs and things like this.

01:05:10.000 You know, Film is powerful, and we need theater.

01:05:14.000 I want some conservative theater kids that aren't bad at their jobs.

01:05:17.000 You know, that's the problem.

01:05:18.000 I think conservatives sometimes feel restrained by their traditional values, and there's something about that medium where it, like you said, it's pushing the boundaries.

01:05:26.000 So you're almost like, it's almost like a PhD student that their whole thing is to come up with new theories, whether or not they're good or not, or whether they're productive or not, whether it's true or not, right?

01:05:36.000 They have to advance academia somehow.

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01:06:43.000 Okay, hold on.

01:06:44.000 I want to do two things.

01:06:45.000 Josiah is next.

01:06:46.000 So I'm going to get the question, and then I want to get Shane's bio here.

01:06:51.000 Josiah, welcome to the show.

01:06:53.000 Unmute yourself.

01:06:54.000 Hey team, thanks for the opportunity.

01:06:55.000 I wanted to ask about something I'm passionate about, which is retaining information and then being able to articulate it very clearly through communication.

01:07:04.000 I was wondering what tips or things that you guys have learned in the communication space, and also if there's something like a boot camp or training that would be available to a student to also get on that magic as well.

01:07:17.000 What are you learning?

01:07:17.000 Why don't you guys answer that?

01:07:19.000 Yeah, I've got a quick one for you.

01:07:20.000 So I call it the big three read, write, speak.

01:07:22.000 If you can't speak, then you need to write more.

01:07:24.000 If you can't write a lot, then go read more.

01:07:26.000 And you can kind of reverse engineer that formula.

01:07:28.000 So then Now, if you want to become an excellent speaker, you have a systematic way to do that.

01:07:31.000 So, if you don't have things to talk about, write more about those things.

01:07:34.000 It'll help you with your public speech, your ability to actually formulate those ideas live and communicate them in an effective way.

01:07:39.000 And if you don't have things to write about, well, go read some books that you're really, really passionate about.

01:07:43.000 You can run that system for pretty much any knowledge base that you want to have.

01:07:46.000 That's what I'd say.

01:07:47.000 That's what I do.

01:07:48.000 Yeah, I still use flashcards and I write them myself.

01:07:50.000 So, I think, again, writing something down, even the Bible talks about in Philippians 4, like to meditate or to dwell.

01:07:57.000 And one of those translations is to write at length.

01:08:00.000 And so, it's like the more you write these things, It actually gets ingrained in your brain.

01:08:04.000 And then it's just reps.

01:08:05.000 You know, when you're talking about the recall, you have to get those reps in so that you can lower your heart rate, lower your cortisol, be able to remember.

01:08:13.000 A lot of people get emotional and hot conversations or debates or when they're put on the spot.

01:08:18.000 So I think just getting the reps in and knowing you're going to be a little rusty in the beginning.

01:08:24.000 I have no notes, I have nothing to add.

01:08:26.000 That's spectacular.

01:08:27.000 Well, yeah, some of the things that we talked about yesterday, like I said, is understanding the.

01:08:33.000 And Andrew Wilson was a great debater, was actually.

01:08:36.000 Teaching part of the debate class that we had.

01:08:38.000 So I would recommend checking out his stuff because he's fantastic.

01:08:41.000 And he uses logic to deconstruct the assertions of the left, if you will.

01:08:49.000 And what's interesting is you realize that a lot of people make assertions, they make truth claims that are based on zero evidence.

01:08:54.000 So just asking great questions is a huge, huge asset to you when you debate.

01:08:59.000 Charlie used the Socratic method expertly in his debates.

01:09:02.000 So you just say, hey, what evidence do you have for that?

01:09:04.000 Oh, have you read the study?

01:09:06.000 You just keep probing deeper in.

01:09:08.000 And oftentimes, when you're kind of deconstructing somebody else's debate, if you can just allow them to make a fool of themselves, people love seeing that actually. 0.99

01:09:18.000 If you're doing a live debate, for example, they love to see dumb people saying dumb things and making themselves look dumb doing it. 0.97

01:09:24.000 I know that's cynical, maybe to say. 0.98

01:09:26.000 Obviously, we have a heart for the people across from us.

01:09:28.000 But if their ideas are poisoning the country and they're destructive to our country, it's okay to let those ideas expose themselves for being false and ultimately terrible, right?

01:09:38.000 You want the idea to.

01:09:40.000 Look bad, and sometimes that's going to mean the people that believe in those ideas are going to look bad.

01:09:44.000 So, you don't always have to be the biggest genius in the room to do that, you just let them out themselves and reveal themselves.

01:09:50.000 And I mean, you I saw a clip of Shane, Shane went super viral from our spring semester, and you just kept asking questions.

01:09:57.000 Yeah, you just kept, What is a fetus?

01:09:58.000 What is it?

01:09:59.000 Right, you were having an abortion debate.

01:10:01.000 Tell us about that.

01:10:02.000 Yeah, I mean, you know, again, I'm not a high IQ person like Charlie, I don't think we have anybody like Charlie, he was one of one.

01:10:09.000 And so, just being myself, I'm like, Look, I'm a very common sense person, you know, I was in the army, so you got to get used to.

01:10:15.000 Speaking to like the private in the room who's just out of high school.

01:10:18.000 And so I ask a lot of questions.

01:10:19.000 Hey, what do you mean by that?

01:10:21.000 Okay, you're going to use this word.

01:10:22.000 What does that mean to you?

01:10:23.000 And the more you let them talk, one, the longer you have to think about what you're going to say.

01:10:27.000 But you realize, like you said, they're not saying anything of substance.

01:10:31.000 A lot of these kids are regurgitating buzzwords or phrases.

01:10:34.000 They're regurgitating a tiktok.

01:10:35.000 They don't know what it even means.

01:10:37.000 And so just having a basic understanding of like, what does fetus mean?

01:10:40.000 It means offspring, little human.

01:10:42.000 Okay, rephrase your sentence. 1.00

01:10:44.000 I want to be able to kill the little human. 1.00

01:10:47.000 And it doesn't sound so good. 1.00

01:10:48.000 They don't like saying that.

01:10:49.000 That's just one way to kind of walk someone into a trap.

01:10:52.000 Yeah.

01:10:53.000 And you are particularly good at the faith stuff.

01:10:55.000 I mean, you're the chairman and CEO of Promise Keepers.

01:10:59.000 Tell us about that.

01:11:00.000 Yeah, I've been blessed to lead that, founded in 1990 by Coach McCartney, who's in heaven right now with Charlie.

01:11:06.000 And, you know, we are a national Christian men's ministry.

01:11:09.000 Our goal is to equip every man in Christ to become better husbands, fathers, and citizens.

01:11:14.000 We've got to get involved as citizens.

01:11:16.000 And so we're grateful through conferences, curriculum, campus tours.

01:11:19.000 We're raising up the men of America.

01:11:21.000 You strengthen the man, you strengthen the family.

01:11:23.000 And little plug, you know, the number one opposition to a Marxist ideology is a strong family led by a strong man.

01:11:30.000 That's what PK aims to raise up.

01:11:32.000 Amen.

01:11:32.000 It was interesting.

01:11:33.000 I was talking with Andrew Wilson yesterday, and he was like, you know, asking, kind of like posting me, if you know anything about Andrew Wilson, he's like the Darth Vader of the right.

01:11:41.000 He's like, he's a pretty savage kid.

01:11:43.000 Great analogy.

01:11:44.000 Yeah.

01:11:45.000 He's great, though.

01:11:46.000 And Orthodox Christian guy, but he was like, hey, so, you know, challenged me to articulate our vision at Turning Point.

01:11:52.000 I was like, it's You know, it hasn't changed.

01:11:54.000 He's like, well, what is it?

01:11:54.000 You know, and I was like, I was like, it's to empower Gen Z to live out the American dream, to have babies, get married, afford a family, not be debt slaves, and to pursue their Christian faith boldly and proudly and get in the public square.

01:12:07.000 I mean, it's like that's because that is the bedrock of any country.

01:12:11.000 It is.

01:12:11.000 You need strong men.

01:12:12.000 You need strong women too.

01:12:13.000 Absolutely.

01:12:14.000 But there's been such an assault against young men.

01:12:16.000 And I think that's ultimately where Charlie shined so much is that he gave young men the courage of their own conviction to speak loudly and proudly and unapologetically in the face of.

01:12:27.000 Of this toxic masculinity and these accusations that are hurled on young men to cow us and put us in a low position.

01:12:35.000 No, we are meant to be strong, our shoulders broad, and fully confident.

01:12:39.000 Right. 0.99

01:12:39.000 And women want to follow a strong man. 0.99

01:12:42.000 And a strong man is not lording over a woman, he's not dragging her along, he's leading her.

01:12:46.000 Just like if I was dropped off in a jungle with my family, I'm not a mile ahead of them, I'm just one step ahead.

01:12:51.000 I'm taking the hits first.

01:12:53.000 That's what a godly man does, a leader.

01:12:55.000 And so be a man worth following.

01:12:58.000 And be inspired by these young people that are going out on campus, leading ministries, both of you leading the theater kid charge.

01:13:08.000 And they're picking up the mantle and they're picking up the mic, and we're proud of them and we're grateful for them to be with us here on campus as we try and win the next generation for the country, for Christ, and for the future.

01:13:24.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - June 26, 2026

Ellis Island vs. Hart-Celler + AMA 271

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