00:00:45.000His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:00:53.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:22.000Now, if I were to ask you who the sovereign was in America, it's the people.
00:01:27.000We the people is how the United States Constitution starts.
00:01:31.000I have a copy of our Turning Point USA Constitution right here.
00:01:36.000In 1787, the founding fathers wrote, We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, ensure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity to ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
00:01:54.000Now, for many years, we have been warning on this program and in my speeches all across the country, my nearly 1,000 speeches that we have given in the last couple of years, that there are two governments in America, that there's the government of Washington, D.C. and the government of Silicon Valley, and that the government in Silicon Valley was becoming increasingly more powerful than the government of Washington, D.C.
00:02:18.000That the government of Silicon Valley was able to do what they wanted, restrict God-granted constitutional liberties, whether it be kicking somebody off of Twitter, restricting the ability for a Facebook post to go viral, or Google not even allowing for you to find out whether a story says what you think it says, manipulating search results.
00:02:37.000Silicon Valley formed its own government, and the left was not only okay with it, they were the architects and the designers of it.
00:02:45.000They were the ones that knew that if they could have an extra governmental system, an extra constitutional system, that they could rise above those pesky checks and balances that our founding fathers and framers put in place.
00:02:56.000They knew that through an extra governmental system, that the sovereign is no longer the people, but instead it's the oligarchs that run the Silicon Valley companies, that run Facebook, Google, and yes, at one point, Twitter.
00:03:11.000When we see a dissolution of a government, when we see a government topple and fall, it's important to stop and look at it.
00:03:19.000When the Soviet Union fell, when George H.W. Bush was president, many people ask, what was the speech that George H.W. Bush gave?
00:03:28.000Did he give a remark or did he give a series of remarks where he celebrated the end of the Soviet Union?
00:03:36.000No, George H.W. Bush did very little to nothing because he said, quote, I didn't want to rub it in.
00:03:42.000I think that was a great mistake by President George H.W. Bush.
00:03:46.000When governments fall, we usually look and we remember.
00:03:50.000When the government of Afghanistan fell last summer and the Taliban took over, we'll never forget that.
00:03:55.000When Vietnam completely collapsed when we barely were able to get our troops off, we looked and we remembered.
00:04:02.000In 1917, when the Bolsheviks took over the government of Russia, they took over the Tsars and they implemented their own communist Marxist war against the West.
00:04:13.000People who were alive at the time and historians, they never forget that when governments fall, it's worthy of notice.
00:04:20.000You are witnessing the dissolution of a government.
00:04:24.000And not a government in the traditional sense, but a separate type of government, not the USSR, not Cuba, but instead the rule of the administration of Silicon Valley.
00:04:35.000And I'm not to say they don't have any power.
00:04:37.000I'm not to say that there won't be any poison pills or traps along the way.
00:04:41.000But Elon Musk, the world's richest man, who was created by the left, by the way, Elon Musk is a creation of the needs, wants, and desires of the American left, and I'll prove it to you, has just liberated France.
00:04:54.000Not France, the country, but the metaphor.
00:04:58.000You see, what Elon Musk has pulled off, the improbable, some people thought the impossible, and certainly I was cynical and skeptical, has showed that all of a sudden, the government of Silicon Valley, this extra governmental constitutional order that the left has implemented, it's now all fair game.
00:05:18.000And the tech oligarchs know that others could possibly now soon follow.
00:05:24.000You see, tech companies were supposed to be untouchable because tech companies are close to trusting the science.
00:05:30.000These are people that are able to make things happen quickly.
00:05:34.000They're able to better police speech than anybody else.
00:05:37.000They're supposed to be the fifth branch of government.
00:05:41.000The fourth, of course, being the bureaucracies.
00:05:44.000But the fifth branch needed to be this kind of private sector, untouchable, ruling elite that share all the values of the Harvard and the UC Berkeley and the Stanford types.
00:05:54.000Men can become pregnant, can't talk about transgender people, open borders are good, can never talk about voter irregularities, can't talk about vaccines.
00:06:03.000All of that is supposed to go through the final gatekeepers of the police of speech.
00:06:25.000There's more than three, but three major ones that Viktor Frankl outlines in his book, Man's Search for Meaning, which is the will to pleasure, the will to power, or the will to meaning.
00:06:36.000The most desirable one and the one that all of us should strive for is the will to meaning.
00:06:42.000Elon Musk put what was right above what was expedient.
00:06:46.000He put what was good for the people above what felt good.
00:06:54.000I want you to think about how paradoxical that sounds when you think about how strange that is the process.
00:07:02.000That the man with the most money on the planet is himself a dissident.
00:07:07.000You see, when we think of a dissident, we think of the lone tank man in Tiananmen Square, China, standing up to one and hopefully inspiring the actions of other.
00:07:17.000When we think of a dissident, we think of someone that is unafraid of the consequences.
00:07:23.000We think of a dissident as someone who's willing to go to jail for a broader and greater purpose.
00:07:34.000But you see, Musk, him being a dissident, as an elite, the elite dissident, is something worthy of study because he very well could have gone along with his fellow, very rich and wealthy counterparts.
00:07:50.000Now, the interesting part of Elon is that he's a creation of the left.
00:07:55.000Elon Musk got rich off of the push and the insistence and the subsidy for green cars.
00:08:00.000The state of Washington recklessly has announced that they want every car to be electric in the next 10 years.
00:08:06.000Well, you're going to make Elon Musk very powerful and wealthy.
00:08:09.000What do you think was going to happen?
00:08:11.000You think that the Department of Energy is going to make all these electric cars?
00:08:14.000Do you think the EPA is going to make electric cars?
00:08:17.000It takes someone eccentric, brilliant, ruthless, creative to be able to pull off the reinvention and the mass proliferation of an electric vehicle.
00:08:31.000Ford, GM, and Chrysler have not been able to pull it off.
00:08:40.000Tesla was a couple weeks from going under in 2008.
00:08:44.000Musk doubled and tripled down and secured the financing and is the world's richest man.
00:08:51.000How do you think he got rich from SpaceX?
00:08:53.000Obama defunded major NASA programs back in 2010 and 2011.
00:09:00.000And Musk saw an opportunity to create a private space force, and he did.
00:09:07.000The insurgency of Musk as a dissident is something that we have not seen in recent memory.
00:09:14.000It's the closest example I could give is John Hancock, who was one of the richest people for the American founders, obviously was eccentric.
00:09:21.000He signed his name biggest on the Declaration of Independence, never wore the uniform of the Continental Army, but was in the trenches through financing, through support, and didn't want to live under the tyranny or the authoritarianism of King George.
00:09:36.000Elon Musk, being the renegade, the rebel, the objector, is making this entire government that is now being dissolved of Silicon Valley increasingly paranoid and nervous.
00:09:51.000They know that it's fair game, and even more so, they know that this decades-long reign of a small unelected tech oligarchy has now been put in jeopardy.
00:10:03.000By the billionaire of their own creation.
00:10:05.000By the billionaire who puts rockets into space because they defunded NASA, by the billionaire who made money off of their electric vehicle push.
00:10:14.000He's your creation, and now you're not angry that he's doing what he's doing.
00:10:20.000You created Elon Musk, and now he's dissolving the very government that you benefit from.
00:10:26.000The empire is going to strike back against Elon, but I think he knows that.
00:10:33.000MSNBC is now really worried that now Twitter can help rig an election if it's privately controlled.
00:10:40.000Of course, they don't care about rigging elections if Google is not allowing coverage of the Hunter Biden laptop, or Twitter didn't allow coverage of the Hunter Biden laptop, or Google manipulating search results, where according to Dr. Epstein said that Google flipped millions of votes through their search engine optimization manipulation, or Facebook not allowing critical stories of Biden to be shared.
00:11:03.000But now MSNBC goes and puts the I hate rich people hat on, even though they're a Microsoft-started company by the formerly world's richest man, Bill Gates.
00:11:14.000Hard to keep all this straight, because now they hate rich people because the rich person they created, Elon Musk, because they all want to drive electric cars, isn't obeying and is not healing to their demands.
00:11:28.000You see, once there is an objector, a renegade, or a dissident, or an insurgent, the left will do everything they possibly can to stifle that person.
00:11:40.000The problem is that Elon is probably too big to stifle.
00:11:48.000If you own all of Twitter or Facebook or what have you, you don't have to explain yourself.
00:11:53.000You don't even have to be transparent.
00:11:54.000You could secretly ban one party's candidate or all of its candidates, all of its nominees, or you could just secretly turn down the reach of their stuff and turn up the reach of something else.
00:12:05.000And the rest of us might not even find out about it until after the election.
00:12:10.000Elon Musk says this is all to help people because he is just a free speech, philosophically clear, open-minded helper.
00:12:21.000That's exactly what they've been doing to conservatives the last six years.
00:12:25.000Shadow banning, changing the ability for people to be able to see trends, manipulating trends.
00:12:34.000A friend of mine here in Phoenix, very smart guy.
00:12:39.000He said, Charlie, you know what I want to see?
00:12:41.000I want to see what James O'Keefe recovered or uncovered, where they showed that special bar.
00:12:46.000Do you remember that special dashboard that they say did not exist, where it allows you to ban certain people, that allows you to suppress certain accounts?
00:13:00.000That I want to go after the dashboard that is suppressing potential disagreeable accounts.
00:13:10.000Part of Elon Musk's project is going to be actually uncovering all of the censorship that Twitter has been openly and privately involved in the last couple of years.
00:13:25.000Wonder how different our country would look politically if we actually had a free and open Twitter.
00:14:13.000I was seeing how much I was spending on my cell phone bill, how much Turning Point USA was spending on our cell phone bill.
00:14:19.000I said, I'm so sick and tired of giving these anti-American cell phone companies my hard-earned money and our amazing donor money at Turning Point USA.
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00:15:34.000Well, a good way to start is, you know, make your cell phone bill, whatever.
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00:16:18.000I want to just kind of expand on a point I made previously, which is only in the American entrepreneurial system could someone like Elon Musk be able to pull off what he's been able to do.
00:16:30.000Now, look, I mean, markets have externalities.
00:16:33.000We admit that markets at times can have flaws because we're dealing with flawed people.
00:16:39.000But markets are by far the best system for people to flourish.
00:16:43.000There's no question, there's no debate.
00:16:45.000Markets, especially one that support private property rights, entrepreneurship, it's the greatest way to empower people of all backgrounds, cultures, religious views to be able to maximally flourish.
00:17:02.000And so you have Elon Musk, who made $280 billion, largely solving a problem that the left has been framing.
00:17:13.000The problem that Elon Musk was framing, that was solving, is that we have too many carbon emissions.
00:17:18.000Now, we at times push back against that premise, and we should, because if you extrapolate that to its furthest logical conclusion, it would be the eradication of all oil and natural gas, liquid, natural gas, and fossil fuel exploration, which is not just unrealistic, it's immoral and really bad for a society.
00:17:36.000But you look at this, you say, okay, would you rather have a government agency try and create an electric car, which would be a joke, or you have someone that had to go near go up to the edge, go up to the ledge of not making payroll in 2008 during the financial crisis, when everyone thought Tesla was a stupid idea, all the while trying to pull off SpaceX,
00:18:03.000where he really had to believe in himself and get the tech and the engineering right, pull it off, and now has revolutionized the way that we are engaging in transport in the West.
00:18:16.000And that should also tell you a little about who now owns Twitter.
00:18:19.000Just out of a general rule of thumb, and it's not a perfect rule, but it's generally good.
00:18:24.000The guy that almost went bankrupt after he used the billions of dollars he made from PayPal and didn't sleep for years and went up against all the greatest critics to create one of the most valuable companies.
00:18:35.000That's a guy I trust more than some creepy weird guy in his pajamas like Parag Augerwal or whatever that wants to censor people he doesn't like.
00:19:54.000And what he saw them do is after every game, winner or lose, to pray and give thanks to God.
00:20:00.000So he made a pledge right there that after every game, I'm going to take this coaching job.
00:20:05.000And after every game, winner or lose, I'm going to go to the center of the field where we had the battle, and I'm going to go to a knee for 15, 20 seconds, and I'm going to thank God for the privilege of coaching these young men.
00:21:01.000Went up to the Ninth Circuit, unfortunately for him.
00:21:04.000He lives in the Ninth Circuit, which is out of San Francisco, and a very liberal court.
00:21:09.000And they said coaches are not allowed to pray if anyone can see them.
00:21:14.000And this is what went up to the Supreme Court.
00:21:16.000And it's his rights to free speech and free exercise of religion versus the, you know, the idea that schools have some sort of duty to make sure that to make sure that they had to stop all religion, essentially, because somebody might see it.
00:21:40.000And then that will cause a problem because they might think the school district is promoting religion because the coach on his own time is going to a knee to give thanks.
00:21:49.000Yeah, I mean, there's so many wrinkles to this.
00:21:52.000First of all, the great work you've been doing, Kelly, we've known each other for a couple of years.
00:21:56.000And since I first met you, you've been working on this case.
00:21:58.000And to get it in front of the U.S. Supreme Court is very significant.
00:22:16.000The idea of why the school can discipline him is that that puts a kind of undue pressure, a kind of coercion on students to participate in religious activities when they may not wish to, when their religion is different or when they have no religion.
00:22:45.000But this is the battle we've been in now for almost 50 years where what happens is the liberals have been saying, well, we've got to shut down private speech, First Amendment rights of students, of parents, of teachers, because people might get the wrong perception and think that it's really not private speech.
00:23:09.000It's really the school district or the government pushing religion.
00:23:13.000And so they've used this excuse as the excuse to strip away First Amendment rights of people, private citizens like Coach Kennedy, because of this alleged, you know, people will be confused argument.
00:23:27.000And I think what was great about the argument yesterday in the Supreme Court is I think they're ready to be done with that.
00:23:35.000We've got a court now that actually cares about the Constitution, not, you know, whatever liberal things are going around these days or in the culture.
00:23:45.000And so they talked about this called the Lemon Test, and they talked about being ready to be rid of it.
00:23:50.000And if they do, it'll be a huge change and a very good change because it'll mean that private First Amendment rights, free speech, free exercise of religion, you won't have government saying that they have some excuse to strip that away from you because they're scared that somebody might think the government is promoting religion.
00:24:09.000Sort of a basic concept is it's not difficult to understand that the government doesn't endorse everything they fail to censor.
00:24:18.000That's called freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and whether it's a coach or a student, they have a right to live their faith.
00:24:24.000The government doesn't have a right to coerce anyone with regard to their religion, but private individuals, whether it be a teacher or a coach or a student or a parent, has a right to pray, to express their faith, to wear a yarmulke, to wear a cross around their neck.
00:24:40.000These are basic freedoms under the First Amendment.
00:24:43.000And for whatever reason, these school districts are really upset about that.
00:24:48.000So in closing here, Kelly, how do you think this one is going to turn out?
00:24:52.000What could the ramifications be for other religious liberty type cases?
00:24:57.000And finally, you know, just kind of give us an idea of kind of the broader picture of what you're seeing happen in the courts.
00:25:06.000Are we going in a more liberty, you know, oriented direction or totalitarian one?
00:25:12.000Yeah, I mean, you know, with the judges appointed under the Trump administration, we have the highest credential judges ever during that time appointed and more that were committed to originalism, which is to look at the original meaning of the text or the Constitution.
00:25:27.000Not a living, breathing Constitution that you change how you want.
00:25:30.000But what was the original meaning to be faithful to that?
00:25:53.000But I feel confident that we're going to get a good decision.
00:25:57.000This will be the first decision ever in the history of our country from the Supreme Court on the rights of teachers or coaches with regard to their faith.
00:26:06.000And I think we're going to start to turn a corner that stops this excuses of liberals who are anti-religious, who don't want to hear religious expression, coming up with excuses of reasons why to take away private citizens' right to go to a knee for 15 seconds, to have a Christian club.
00:26:24.000I mean, they've gone against these things for 50 years, and they've used this excuse that, well, people will think the government is pushing religion.
00:26:32.000I think we might be through with that because it's pretty simple that private citizens have a right to free speech and free exercise of religion.
00:26:41.000If it's a government entity, that's a different story, but we can't use sort of people not understanding as an excuse to strip away people's First Amendment rights.
00:26:51.000And I'll tell you, Charlie, one other thing, if people want to listen to the argument, we have an audio recording of the argument.
00:26:57.000They can go to firstliberty.org and they can listen to it and hear an actual oral argument, what it's like, some of the things you just mentioned, and be in prayer between now and the end of June when this decision will come down.
00:27:10.000And most people think it's going to be a landmark decision because it's going to be a first of its time.
00:27:14.000I think so highly of the work that you're doing, Kelly, and we're glad to be partnering with you in a variety of different ways.
00:28:50.000No, it probably is going to get a lot better.
00:28:51.000It'll probably be worse for you, though, Greg Bessinger, because you just want to control what people think and say.
00:29:00.000It writes here, quote, Mr. Musk is correct that Twitter has become the de facto public square, but consider the fate of another public square led by a billionaire with no real check on his power.
00:29:16.000Leaks over the past year have shown that Meta, under Mark Zuckerberg's leadership, has overlooked evidence that hurtful comments on the company's platform have caused emotional damage to companies' teenagers and increased users' anxiety and anger.
00:29:27.000That's the least of Facebook's problems right now.
00:29:30.000The company knows its algorithms are deeply flawed, but because Zuckerberg holds a controlling share of votes on the board, external internal pressures on the company to change have proven to be futile.
00:29:42.000You see, for people like Greg Bessinger and the New York Times, they think Twitter has been serving its purpose.
00:29:50.000They think the fact that you're not able to speak freely about vaccines, hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, early interventions, masks, that's a good thing.
00:30:02.000One of the reasons why we were not able to lift the mandates earlier is because we were not able to speak freely at the place where public opinion is shaped, which is predominantly Twitter.
00:30:15.000Now, I know a lot of you listening say, I don't use Twitter.
00:30:17.000I don't care about Twitter, but the people you watch use Twitter, and that's where they decide what to think.
00:30:24.000They don't think independently by reading trusted sources.
00:30:28.000They flip through a Twitter news feed, and that is where your Apple news gets composed.
00:30:36.000That's where the newspapers you read get composed.
00:30:39.000Whether you know it or not, or whether you want to admit it, Twitter is the top.
00:31:22.000They believe that a good idea might be disinformation.
00:31:27.000They think that a good idea might really be a threat.
00:31:30.000Where we as conservatives are so confident in our position, we're confident because we're rooted in reality, not some sort of abstract theory, that we're perfectly fine with people with bad ideas to be able to keep talking.
00:31:43.000Where is the conservative push to try to ban CNN?
00:31:48.000We just mock it because no one watches it.
00:31:51.000We know that no one watches Brian Stelter or takes them seriously, but yet they're the ones that are trying to cancel Fox and now trying to debase Twitter.
00:32:00.000Their ideas seem good when they're unchallenged.
00:32:04.000Can you show one person, show me one person on the left that goes to hostile territory and regularly takes questions from conservatives?
00:32:15.000Ben Shapiro does that at campuses across the country.
00:32:17.000Candace Owens does that at campuses across the country.
00:32:20.000Yet CNN would not be able to even take a couple critical questions from two University of Chicago students.
00:32:27.000I say this as humbly as I possibly can.
00:32:30.000The fact that we are willing to take antagonistic and confrontational line of questioning means that we're closer to the truth than the people that don't do that on a regular basis.
00:32:43.000Thank you so much for listening, everybody.
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