The Charlie Kirk Show - Elon Musk Is Buying Twitter… AGAIN with John Ratcliffe and Dr. Scott Jensen

00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody, today's Charlie Kirk Show.

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00:00:37.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:01:22.000 I've said before that under President Trump, this catastrophe in Ukraine never would have happened.

00:01:29.000 Let's play cut 54.

00:01:30.000 Defense Secretary Gates standing by his comments that Joe Biden has been wrong about every single foreign policy decision in his career.

00:01:40.000 Play Cut 54.

00:01:42.000 And you said in your memoir, I think he's been wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades.

00:01:52.000 Would he be an effective commander-in-chief?

00:01:57.000 I don't know.

00:01:59.000 I don't know.

00:02:00.000 I think I stand by that statement.

00:02:03.000 Stand by that statement when we see the results of what Gates tried to warn us about.

00:02:11.000 Joining us now is former head of DNI and great American John Ratcliffe.

00:02:17.000 John, welcome back to the program.

00:02:18.000 Hey, Charlie, good to see you.

00:02:20.000 So I want to kind of begin by framing this.

00:02:23.000 We did a whole hour on, quite honestly, how frustrated I personally am and our audiences on how people in Washington, D.C. seem to be escalating the conflict in Ukraine unnecessarily.

00:02:35.000 What is it that when you were there at the Trump administration, how did you guys handle this to try to keep things at least at bay with Putin and with Ukraine?

00:02:45.000 Where obviously Putin would have loved to have done this earlier, but there were decisions that were made by the Trump administration that obviously Putin made a separate, a different choice.

00:02:55.000 Why do you think that is?

00:02:57.000 Well, one single biggest reason, Charlie, and that was who was in the Oval Office and who was calling the shots.

00:03:05.000 Because it's not just what Putin is doing now that he wasn't doing or had stopped doing in the Obama-Biden administration and then continued miraculously in the Biden administration and didn't do during the Trump years, but it's also President Xi Jinping.

00:03:23.000 It's also, you know, mullahs in Iran, all of these people acting badly now in ways that they weren't during the Trump administration.

00:03:33.000 And the common denominator there is Donald Trump.

00:03:35.000 And so it was a president of the United States who, you know, call it what you want, Charlie.

00:03:42.000 Some people would say respect, some people would say fear.

00:03:47.000 But either way, the bottom line is it was all about the fact that, you know, President Trump made clear to foreign leaders that things like this wouldn't be tolerated.

00:03:58.000 And so, you know, the example is the removal from the planet of Iranian Revolutionary Guard cuts force General Qasim Soleimani in a very public way, you know, to make sure that Iranian bad actors stopped acting badly.

00:04:15.000 So it was those types of things.

00:04:16.000 So Putin knew that he couldn't get away with it during the Trump administration.

00:04:21.000 And it's not a coincidence that it was just two months into this Biden administration that he starts mobilizing troops in the Donbas region.

00:04:32.000 Yeah, so then we have the Nord Stream question.

00:04:35.000 And I know you have to be probably careful in some ways how you answer this, but just kind of talking more broadly, I don't quite understand, at least from a logical perspective, why Putin would bomb his own kind of cash supply.

00:04:48.000 Despite that, though, I'm being told that it was Putin from Brennan and all these other people, or at least they're alluding to it.

00:04:54.000 How should we think about the Nordstream incident?

00:04:56.000 What are the facts and the prerequisites we know in how we try to unpack this act of industrial sabotage?

00:05:03.000 Good.

00:05:04.000 So I approach everything in an apolitical way and try and let the intelligence dictate it.

00:05:10.000 So here's kind of what we know, Charlie, from a big perspective.

00:05:13.000 We know that this was a deliberate act of sabotage.

00:05:16.000 So there were two explosions, not one.

00:05:19.000 So it wasn't an earthquake or some geologic or weather-related event or something that caused it.

00:05:24.000 So two separate explosions in proximity to Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2.

00:05:30.000 So again, a deliberate act.

00:05:32.000 And given the capabilities that would be required, it would be a state-led attack.

00:05:38.000 So having said that, who could have or why would this have happened?

00:05:45.000 So let's start with Russia.

00:05:49.000 To your point, the first question is, yeah, why not just turn off the gas?

00:05:53.000 Why blow up a $20 billion pipeline project to accomplish this?

00:06:01.000 And what John Brennan would say, or some folks in the intelligence community fairly, unfairly would say is, well, it's a Russian, it's a classic Russian false flag.

00:06:10.000 It's done to throw everyone off.

00:06:15.000 I don't know that that would be the motivation so much as I've tried to look at it and say, okay, if I were in charge of the intelligence community, we were in the process of determining attribution.

00:06:27.000 One of the factors could be for Putin doing it is, look, in the old days, that natural gas had to transit through Ukraine.

00:06:35.000 And so with those pipelines out of place, if Europe wants Russian natural gas, it's got to go through Ukraine.

00:06:42.000 And for it to go through Ukraine, there has to be a peace agreement.

00:06:45.000 So would there be some sort of, would this be some way of sort of forcing an off-ramp and some sort of agreement where everyone would get on board so that that could take place and give Putin an out to a war that's not going well.

00:07:00.000 But the other way to look at that is who else would benefit from that?

00:07:04.000 And an off-ramp and an ability to end the war would be Zelensky and Ukraine.

00:07:08.000 So for the very same reason.

00:07:10.000 So that is a possibility.

00:07:12.000 And then, of course, there's the United States.

00:07:14.000 If Ukraine isn't providing natural grass to Europe, the United States for decades to come, you know, would be a huge profit center.

00:07:21.000 And when you couple that with the things that Joe Biden has said or Victoria Newland, who worked for him, all of those things, can we rule that out?

00:07:32.000 No, but what I would say is this, Charlie, we'll know this answer in short term because attribution for this is not going to be particularly difficult.

00:07:44.000 It's likely that the United States has or will soon determine from the intelligence community, from our assets, our ability to determine who pulled this off.

00:07:54.000 And if it's not the United States, then we would make that clear publicly.

00:07:57.000 We would want to make sure that that was communicated.

00:08:01.000 And so I would expect that the Biden administration would have the opportunity in the coming weeks to be able to say, look, we've determined attribution and this is who it was.

00:08:13.000 So we should know that answer definitively.

00:08:15.000 So those are the possibilities.

00:08:16.000 That's how I would look at it.

00:08:19.000 I have my own personal opinions, but I'll hold those until there's further attribution from actual intelligence, current intelligence sources.

00:08:28.000 Yeah, I mean, I guess what's concerning is that the United States hasn't denied it.

00:08:32.000 I mean, they sort of have.

00:08:33.000 But then Tony Blinken talks about how it's this big opportunity.

00:08:37.000 And then you have the Polish ambassador, whoever this guy is, government official, tweeting out thank you.

00:08:42.000 Thanks, USA.

00:08:43.000 What is that all about?

00:08:44.000 How are we supposed to read into that?

00:08:46.000 Yeah.

00:08:46.000 And so, you know, and so that would be one of the factors.

00:08:49.000 And it's fair to look at is when we perform, I say we, when I was in charge of the intelligence community and when we engaged in covert or clandestine activities in proximity that were going to other countries and were going to influence them economically, militarily, and whatever, it would be appropriate to give them a heads up, you know, obviously in confidence.

00:09:15.000 So that would be a factor to look at.

00:09:17.000 And this guy's one of the reasons not exactly, you know, well schooled in the intelligence espionage world.

00:09:24.000 Geez.

00:09:24.000 Yeah.

00:09:26.000 Yeah.

00:09:26.000 So I will say this, Charlie, because I get this question a lot.

00:09:29.000 And, you know, I know you're concerned about escalation.

00:09:32.000 All Americans are.

00:09:33.000 We talk about nuclear weapons and would Putin use a tactical nuclear weapon.

00:09:37.000 And there's been a lot of speculation about that.

00:09:40.000 One thing I've been disappointed in folks out of the Pentagon, you know, not sort of spokespeople not talking about this issue is, look, when it comes to nuclear weapons and nuclear protocols, Vladimir Putin has wide latitude to use certain weapons of mass destruction, and he has to the detriment of populations around the world.

00:10:04.000 And that would include chemical and biological.

00:10:06.000 But I will say this: when it comes to the use of nuclear weapons, ever since the Cuban Missile Crisis and the old Soviet Union and Nikita Khrushchev, the old Politburo stepped in and said, when it comes to nuclear weapons, we don't want a crazy person making a one-off decision.

00:10:26.000 And so they've got some pretty rigid protocols when it comes to the use of actual nuclear weapons that Vladimir Putin wouldn't be making those decisions by himself.

00:10:35.000 And that's something that I think should give everyone some comfort as this thing goes.

00:10:40.000 Yeah, I mean, I'll be honest, I just, that's one factor. 0.97

00:10:43.000 I don't trust the fools that pulled off Afghanistan right now in our own government. 0.97

00:10:47.000 I mean, Lloyd Austin and Mark Milley, they gave us the Afghanistan debacle. 0.99

00:10:52.000 And I'm supposed to, I mean, I want the checks and balances on our guys.

00:10:56.000 Not to say they're going to use nuclear weapons, but I mean.

00:10:59.000 To your point, I mean, the world is on fire.

00:11:01.000 I mean, look, we talked about Russia's doing things they weren't doing.

00:11:05.000 China's doing things with Taiwan that they weren't doing.

00:11:08.000 North Korea is doing things that they haven't done since 2017, the first year of the Trump administration.

00:11:13.000 I mean, all of these things are because of what you said, Charlie.

00:11:17.000 Who's in charge?

00:11:18.000 Who's making the decisions?

00:11:19.000 Where the deterrent factor is or the lack thereof.

00:11:22.000 So should you have confidence?

00:11:23.000 Absolutely not.

00:11:26.000 So, John, one of the reasons why I'm so frustrated with Republicans right now sending $70 billion to Ukraine, and we've kind of been toying around with this, is I have zero faith in the current national security apparatus.

00:11:36.000 People like yourself, people like Rick Grinnell are no longer there. 0.96

00:11:40.000 We have Jake Sullivan and so many others that just seem to be funding and strengthening this very corrupt and foolish group of people. 0.99

00:11:50.000 How should we think about this? 0.92

00:11:52.000 And I mean, I know that Donald Trump's heart, because I spoke to the president recently, would be try to broker peace here, not trying to further a conflict.

00:12:02.000 Is it the Americans' position right now?

00:12:04.000 Is it the position of the American government to get us closer to peace?

00:12:07.000 It certainly doesn't feel that way.

00:12:08.000 It seems as if we're creating another quagmire in a far off distant land.

00:12:16.000 Well, I think we are.

00:12:17.000 We talked about it across the board.

00:12:19.000 I mean, you know, you're absolutely right, Charlie.

00:12:24.000 We have a war in regardless of who wins at this point, Ukraine or Russia.

00:12:28.000 This war didn't take place in the Trump administration, wouldn't have taken place, you know, with strong leadership.

00:12:36.000 You know, we could say the same thing about what's happening with Taiwan and China.

00:12:41.000 You know, the things that China has started doing to Taiwan in and around Taiwan, you know, weren't taking place during our administration.

00:12:49.000 And so, you know, do I think that it's, you know, that it's likely that we could have conflict in the Taiwan Strait in the Biden administration?

00:12:57.000 Absolutely, for the same reason that we have a conflict in Ukraine.

00:13:01.000 You know, so these are a factor of the people that you're talking about.

00:13:05.000 And so, you know, it's Joe Biden in the White House, but it's also the national security apparatus and the people like Blinken and Austin and Sullivan.

00:13:15.000 And they do not inspire confidence because they've made one bad decision after another.

00:13:19.000 I mean, you know, from Afghanistan that had a ripple effect everywhere.

00:13:23.000 So, you know, the thing I would say is, like so many of the crises that are happening, you know, from a foreign policy standpoint, we started out with Robert Gates, and we know the answer now, Robert.

00:13:36.000 Joe Biden would not make a good president.

00:13:38.000 He's made that clear.

00:13:39.000 But it's not just foreign policy.

00:13:40.000 It's our border security.

00:13:41.000 You know, it's economic issues.

00:13:43.000 It's inflation.

00:13:45.000 But I will say this.

00:13:47.000 You know, people ask me all the time about things are going so terribly wrong.

00:13:52.000 But in all of those instances, Charlie, I think what people have to keep in mind is if you send the right people to Washington, these problems are all manufactured.

00:14:01.000 They're not organic, meaning they are reversible and they are fixable with the right policies.

00:14:07.000 So, you know, policy at the border, you know, remain in Mexico.

00:14:11.000 Yeah, I'm sorry to interrupt, but I guess our frustration is, though, currently Republicans are funding these people, right?

00:14:17.000 It's $70 billion to Ukraine.

00:14:19.000 Like, what does success look like in Ukraine for America right now?

00:14:23.000 Right.

00:14:23.000 Yeah.

00:14:24.000 And, you know, this is a problem.

00:14:27.000 As you know, Charlie, before I was DNI, I was a member of Congress.

00:14:31.000 And if you go back and check my record, you know, at the end of the year, as we approach these things, there'll be some sort of an omnibus that probably gets loaded up with all sorts of stuff.

00:14:41.000 And, you know, in this case, with a potential change in Congress, even more so, because what you'll have is Republicans, you'll have Democrats wanting to spend money and leave a mark.

00:14:53.000 But will you have Republicans go along?

00:14:55.000 So this is not just a Democrat issue.

00:14:58.000 It's a Washington issue and Republican issue.

00:15:01.000 So, you know, why did 10 Democrats or why did 10 Republicans go along with Joe Biden's infrastructure bill?

00:15:09.000 And what they would say is, well, it's the right thing to do.

00:15:11.000 But we've heard Democrats now use that and say, well, it's part of our string of successes why you should vote for Democrats.

00:15:19.000 My fear, and you're right, Charlie, and the frustration was one of the things I hated about Congress, which you had people, particularly as they're, they'll say, you know, a continuing resolution is no way to run an end, you know, a military.

00:15:31.000 And so therefore, we've got to pass an NDAA and we've got to load it up with all kinds of stuff.

00:15:35.000 And I'm for a strong military, but all sorts of other things get loaded in these omnibuses, you know, that will fund the defense industry in places like Ukraine that most Americans are tired of supporting.

00:15:47.000 Why aren't we spending this money on border security issues?

00:15:50.000 Why aren't we spending this money to help all of the people in Florida that have been now hit by Hurricane Ian?

00:15:57.000 You know, all of those things are good.

00:15:58.000 They're good questions.

00:15:59.000 And unfortunately, on that standpoint, there aren't great answers in terms of what will happen.

00:16:04.000 We have retiring senators that want to leave their mark and all of that kind of thing.

00:16:08.000 So I think there'll be a lot more bad spending in the next couple of months.

00:16:12.000 Yeah, I think you're right.

00:16:12.000 John Ratcliffe, thank you.

00:16:14.000 I think the frustration, though, is that these Ukraine bills have been one-offs.

00:16:16.000 They haven't been part of CRs.

00:16:18.000 And so it's not, they have a chance to do it.

00:16:20.000 And I guess our leaders care more about Ukraine than about America.

00:16:23.000 Thank you so much.

00:16:24.000 Awesome commentary.

00:16:25.000 Good to see you, Charlie.

00:16:26.000 Thanks for having me.

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00:17:30.000 One of my favorite states in America is Minnesota.

00:17:35.000 Love Minnesota.

00:17:36.000 Great people.

00:17:37.000 And I just don't think it gets the attention it deserves.

00:17:40.000 It really is, it's a beast of a state.

00:17:42.000 It's one of the nation's largest states and has really made a favorable, phenomenal contribution, I should say, to America in more ways than one.

00:17:42.000 It's a huge state.

00:17:53.000 Some of America's great companies were founded by Minnesotans, and it's just gone off the rails in recent years politically.

00:18:01.000 Minnesota is very similar to other Midwest states where I believe it has been so just abused by corrupt politicians.

00:18:09.000 Illinois is very similar.

00:18:10.000 But I think that there's still a lot of opportunity and a lot of life left in Minnesota, the great state of Minnesota.

00:18:16.000 And joining us now is someone who's trying to turn the great state of Minnesota around, Dr. Scott Jensen.

00:18:21.000 You guys can check it out, drscottjenson.com, running for governor in the great state of Minnesota.

00:18:28.000 Dr. Jensen, welcome to the program.

00:18:31.000 Thank you, Charlie.

00:18:32.000 It's good to be with you.

00:18:33.000 Tell us about your campaign.

00:18:35.000 You are 35 days out from Election Day.

00:18:37.000 How are things going?

00:18:39.000 Things are going well.

00:18:40.000 I think that we've used the same polling company that Glenn Yunken had used.

00:18:45.000 And I think we're even closer now than he was about a month away from the election.

00:18:50.000 So we're very encouraged by that.

00:18:51.000 The last two polls have shown us about two and a half to three points down.

00:18:56.000 We're within the margin of error.

00:18:57.000 Real clear politics has come out and said it's a toss-up.

00:19:01.000 Tim Walz is involved in one of the largest COVID relief program frauds in the entire country.

00:19:10.000 $250 million gone.

00:19:12.000 And the Tim Walz team can't tell us when he learned about the fraud.

00:19:16.000 They don't know if it was in the spring of 2020, the summer, or November of 2020.

00:19:20.000 And Minnesotans are getting tired of his strategy.

00:19:24.000 He seems to be following Joe Biden's playbook.

00:19:26.000 He's hiding in the basement, denying the opportunity for debates.

00:19:30.000 Minnesota Public Radio came out yesterday and was disappointed.

00:19:34.000 I think, or maybe perhaps it was Minnesota Public TV, but Tim Walz has said, no, he won't do a debate with me on their program either.

00:19:42.000 So we think that the momentum's definitely shifted.

00:19:44.000 It's coming our way, and we're excited.

00:19:47.000 So I love Minnesota.

00:19:48.000 It's a very interesting state.

00:19:50.000 And I think it has gone radically out more left-wing than Minnesota values.

00:19:55.000 It's very interesting, though.

00:19:57.000 There has always been this kind of working-class, you know, Minnesota tradition, Democrat farmer-labor union, if not mistaken, DFLs, which I think are spending a lot against you, if not mistaken, right?

00:20:12.000 Even though ironically, a lot of their kind of interests align.

00:20:17.000 Talk about kind of the history of Minnesota politically.

00:20:22.000 It was one of the only states to vote against Ronald Reagan, if I'm not mistaken, either 84 or in 80.

00:20:26.000 At the same time, it's a very kind of conservative state in other ways.

00:20:31.000 Talk about that, Charlie.

00:20:33.000 Minnesota's always had a strong work ethic.

00:20:36.000 And I think that that's really been the thing that's kept us from being entirely a blue state.

00:20:41.000 But you're right.

00:20:42.000 In 1972, that was the last year that Minnesota voted for a Republican presidential candidate in Nixon.

00:20:49.000 The DFL party, though, is has lost the F and the L.

00:20:53.000 The farmers are absolutely fed up.

00:20:55.000 That's exactly right.

00:20:57.000 Heavy-handed, if you will, departments and agencies of Minnesota government.

00:21:03.000 The MPCA has been out of bounds.

00:21:05.000 The DNR has slipped at times, to be sure.

00:21:08.000 The Met Council is responsible for the largest cost overrun of a project in probably the history of Minnesota with a light rail project that's gone from $2 billion to nearly $3 billion.

00:21:20.000 The labor is also leaving the Democratic Party because, frankly, the Democratic Party's heavy on promises, but short on, if you will, actually producing what they said they would do.

00:21:31.000 And we're seeing the same thing, Charlie.

00:21:33.000 And I heard earlier on your program with the Latino Hispanic community.

00:21:37.000 They're fed up.

00:21:39.000 They're saying, you know, we're not buying what you're selling because you just come in every four years, make a bunch of promises, and then you're nowhere to be found.

00:21:47.000 And frankly, your policies aren't helping us.

00:21:49.000 People are furious with Tim Walz for hooking our wagon to the California car mandates.

00:21:55.000 And in so doing, he's helped drive inflation higher in Minnesota in terms of our gas prices, our fuel, our oil prices, our groceries are 20% up.

00:22:05.000 People are just saying, listen, Tim Walz might be hiding in the bunker.

00:22:09.000 He might spend $12 million to demonize Scott Jensen as some sort of extreme character.

00:22:14.000 But the fact of the matter is, Charlie, six years ago, I was family doctor of the year in Minnesota.

00:22:20.000 I'm not an extreme guy.

00:22:21.000 I'm a family doctor who likes to solve problems.

00:22:24.000 And I really think that governance in Minnesota is broken.

00:22:27.000 Yeah, no kidding.

00:22:28.000 And there's some incredibly radical elements.

00:22:31.000 It'd be one thing if the Democrat Party in Minnesota would kind of weigh both options and govern from the middle, but there's been some extraordinarily radical ideas that have been implemented.

00:22:41.000 And just one that's so fundamental towards human flourishing, which is crime.

00:22:45.000 You know, I've visited Minneapolis my entire life.

00:22:48.000 I have family from Minnesota.

00:22:49.000 I have family that are the biggest Minnesota Viking fans, I think, ever.

00:22:54.000 And we always have fun with that because they just don't win very often.

00:22:58.000 Sorry, no offense.

00:22:59.000 It's just the way it is.

00:23:01.000 And but when I visit now, and I just mean this from a loving kind of posture, Minneapolis is not the city it used to be.

00:23:09.000 It's full of crime.

00:23:11.000 It's more depressed than I've ever seen.

00:23:13.000 And I know a lot of people that are moving out of the Minneapolis metropolitan area because of that.

00:23:17.000 Can you talk about the rise in crime and what really kind of what triggered that?

00:23:26.000 Tim Walz arguably is the godfather of lawlessness that's crept across Minnesota, but it's also, if you will, poisoned our nation.

00:23:35.000 Tim Walz in 2020 during the riots was more concerned about making certain that Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib and Maxine Waters were happy with his performance.

00:23:48.000 Was more concerned about the hard left base.

00:23:51.000 He didn't put the National Guard on the streets.

00:23:53.000 And when he finally did, after three days, he called on a bunch of 19-year-old cooks.

00:23:58.000 He tried to blame the mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Fry.

00:24:01.000 But if you actually look back, Charlie, at Tim Walz' history, in 2005, he quit on the National Guard.

00:24:08.000 He had been promoted to the highest rank that you could get as an enlisted officer.

00:24:13.000 He was the command sergeant major, and he was supposed to go with his battalion.

00:24:17.000 But when they found out they were getting deployed to Iraq, Walls quit.

00:24:21.000 15 years later, when it comes time to let the National Guard restore lawful behavior in Minnesota, Tim Walz quit on him again.

00:24:29.000 Three days later, on May 28th, when Tim Walz made the decision to stand down and let the third precinct building burn and absolutely surrendered to the rioters, he quit on the cops.

00:24:41.000 He has done this over and over again.

00:24:44.000 And what we're seeing now is the downstream problems where we're seeing women in Minneapolis-St. Paul targeted rape, robbery, carjacking.

00:24:54.000 We didn't even used to keep track of carjacking, but I think in 2021, we had almost 800 carjackings.

00:25:01.000 And many of these are women being targeted as they're coming out of a daycare center or a grocery store.

00:25:08.000 People are literally having to decide how far back they want to come to a stop before a stoplight so that they have a little room to wiggle if all of a sudden someone's coming at them in terms of a carjacking attempt.

00:25:21.000 Minnesota has fundamentally changed.

00:25:24.000 And this is because the godfather of crime is Tim Walz.

00:25:27.000 And he has been slow to act.

00:25:28.000 And every time he's called on the lead, he quits.

00:25:33.000 It's almost as if he's lazy.

00:25:34.000 He's not doing his homework.

00:25:36.000 He should have, with this $250 million fraud in terms of feeding our children, he should have gotten on it once he saw that there was a problem.

00:25:43.000 But he let hundreds of millions of dollars continue to be paid to these fraudsters.

00:25:48.000 And now he's trying to blame the judge.

00:25:49.000 He's trying to blame the FBI.

00:25:50.000 He's trying to blame the Department of Agriculture.

00:25:52.000 And Minnesotans are getting tired of it.

00:25:55.000 And for those of you listening in the national audience that might say, oh, I don't know if a Republican can win in Minnesota, play cut 56.

00:26:03.000 My sleeper is actually Minnesota governor's race.

00:26:06.000 I think given the way that that state has moved over the last couple of cycles, and you've got Tim Walz there, the incumbent Democrat running against Scott Jensen, who's a doctor, Republican.

00:26:20.000 That race is one to keep an eye on because you'll see if the electorate, if Republicans turn out on Election Day, that could very well be an upset.

00:26:30.000 So keep an eye on that one.

00:26:31.000 So there you have it.

00:26:32.000 That's Tom Bevan from Real Clear Politics.

00:26:34.000 A Republican can win.

00:26:35.000 I remember Tim Palenti.

00:26:36.000 That was a little while ago, but Republicans can win statewide.

00:26:38.000 It's happened before.

00:26:41.000 Charlie, we've set all records for raising funds for Republican gubernatorial candidates.

00:26:46.000 By the time it's all said and done, we'll have raised over $5 million.

00:26:49.000 We've got 110,000 people that have joined our email team.

00:26:53.000 We've got thousands of people door knocking and phone banking for us every weekend.

00:26:58.000 We have over 35,000 unique donations come our way.

00:27:02.000 There's an energy, there's an excitement in Minnesota, and there's a recognition that our Constitution that calls for a government that's devoted to the security and the benefit and the protection of its people has got to be restored.

00:27:16.000 And I think that's why we're going to win and we're very excited.

00:27:19.000 Well, it seems as if it's kind of the final push.

00:27:22.000 Talk about your website and how people can support you, doctor.

00:27:26.000 drscottjenson.com d-r-s-c-o-t-t-j-e-n-s-e-n.com.

00:27:31.000 And I think one of the things that's separated us from Tim Walz is we've put out 10-point programs for the last four months.

00:27:38.000 We're trying to combat inflation, energy, public safety, education.

00:27:45.000 And we've even gone so far as to say, listen, we want people to be physically fit themselves.

00:27:51.000 So we put out a 10-point program with Matt Burke, my lieutenant governor candidate.

00:27:56.000 He had to go to Baltimore to get a Super Bowl ring, but we forgave him for that.

00:28:00.000 But the bottom line is we're trying to help people take charge of their own health and recognize that there are things they can do when we're in the midst of a pandemic as well.

00:28:09.000 They can lose five pounds, walk every day for 15, 20 minutes.

00:28:12.000 And we put out a 10-point program to help people get motivated.

00:28:15.000 And to all of this, Tim Walz has been crickets.

00:28:20.000 There's nothing coming forward.

00:28:21.000 He just, and now he won't debate us.

00:28:24.000 Typically, we've had half a dozen debates each election cycle.

00:28:27.000 Tim Walz and I have one debate, and he said he'd allow one more, but no live audience.

00:28:32.000 And he doesn't want it to be in a Minneapolis-St. Paul TV market.

00:28:36.000 This is such an important thing.

00:28:37.000 And as we close our conversation, this is not the only state this is happening, though.

00:28:40.000 I can point to at least five or six gubernatorial races across the country, Arizona, Kerry Lake being one of them, where the Democrat just doesn't want to debate.

00:28:47.000 It's their new thing.

00:28:48.000 They're going to just hide under this barrage of money.

00:28:52.000 They're going to, and John Fetterman in Pennsylvania refuses to debate till late October.

00:28:56.000 That's so unhealthy for our country, isn't it, Dr. 30 seconds?

00:29:00.000 I mean, you can say what you want about Republicans or conservatives or whatever, but if you're not going to have a conversation, you shouldn't be in office.

00:29:08.000 What they're telling voters is we really don't need you.

00:29:10.000 We're just going to rely on the machine, the money, and the media.

00:29:14.000 And they're going to get us across the goal line.

00:29:16.000 But what they don't have this time around, Charlie, is the movement.

00:29:20.000 I think a lot of people recognize there's a moment right now.

00:29:23.000 And in that moment, what we're doing is we're telling people the millennials and the Gen Zs, the minorities, the moms and the dads, the mama bears, they're rising up and they're going to do exactly in Minnesota and in Arizona what they did in Virginia in 2021.

00:29:38.000 Win.

00:29:39.000 Yeah, I think you're a problem solver that can really help fix the great state of Minnesota.

00:29:43.000 I love that state.

00:29:43.000 I really do.

00:29:44.000 It's phenomenal people.

00:29:46.000 It's not easy.

00:29:46.000 Thank you for running.

00:29:47.000 There's a lot of ads being run against you.

00:29:49.000 And please run and win and clean up that great state.

00:29:52.000 Thank you, Doctor.

00:29:53.000 Thank you, Charlie.

00:29:55.000 I love to see regular people run for office.

00:29:57.000 It's just, he was against lockdowns early, too, by the way.

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00:31:29.000 Okay, I do want to just reinforce this point before I go to some Elon Musk news here.

00:31:34.000 It's so telling, isn't it, of who's willing to debate and who isn't.

00:31:38.000 So Josh Shapiro won't date Doug Mastriano in Pennsylvania.

00:31:42.000 Katie Hobbs won't debate Kerry Lake in Arizona.

00:31:45.000 Tim Walz won't debate Scott Jensen in Minnesota.

00:31:48.000 And John Fetterman allegedly will debate Oz at the end of October once all the ballots are out.

00:31:54.000 So it's too late anyway.

00:31:56.000 What does that tell you about the health of the Democrat Party?

00:32:00.000 Well, it tells you that they're in a very compromised position.

00:32:04.000 They must be so certain of the federal government's ability to censor voices like this program, so certain of the ability to raise money synthetically and artificially to run ads to destroy their political opponents.

00:32:16.000 It's a very, very troubling thing for our republic, though.

00:32:19.000 It is not healthy to be able to just hide from reporters and hide from political opponents and run political ads.

00:32:26.000 That is a bad, bad, bad sign for the country.

00:32:28.000 And honestly, it shows that Republicans are in a position of truth.

00:32:33.000 You know, the next time I come across one of the degenerates that work for the New York Times and they want to ask me questions, I'm going to ask them, like, hey, what do you think about the idea that you guys never press Democrat candidates that are running for office that refuse to debate?

00:32:48.000 Now, in all fairness, some of the local media here in Arizona, they've been going after Katie Hobbs for this.

00:32:53.000 I want to say going after her, but they've been covering her pretty negatively, saying, why won't she debate?

00:32:57.000 I don't understand.

00:32:58.000 It's because Katie Hobbs can't put together a coherent sentence. 0.99

00:33:01.000 Talking is not her thing.

00:33:03.000 And look, if I was in Katie Hobbs camp, I'll be very honest, I wouldn't debate Kerry Lake.

00:33:07.000 I mean, can you blame her? 0.86

00:33:08.000 Kerry Lake is on television for 30 years. 1.00

00:33:11.000 And plus what, Katie Hobbs is going to defend homelessness, vagrancy, open-air drug use, CRT, the sexualization of our children, and open borders? 1.00

00:33:19.000 I don't think so.

00:33:21.000 It's something very interesting.

00:33:22.000 If any of you have Democrats in your life, you should ask them, why is it Democrats that are afraid to debate?

00:33:26.000 Why do Democrats not want to debate?

00:33:27.000 Why do Democrats not want to debate?

00:33:29.000 I think it actually gives us the opportunity to be on the moral high ground here.

00:33:34.000 Some breaking news.

00:33:35.000 Elon Musk is now going to buy Twitter.

00:33:40.000 Trading has been halted of Twitter.

00:33:43.000 Looks as if he is backed into a corner a little bit here to buy it.

00:33:46.000 I'll be very interested, though, to see what he does with it.

00:33:50.000 Maybe merges it with Rumble.

00:33:53.000 There's been some whispers of that.

00:33:54.000 That would be quite interesting.

00:33:56.000 Look, Twitter has huge opportunity, huge upside.

00:33:59.000 But I think the first thing that Elon Musk has to do, if he does end up buying Twitter, is to purge it of its bots and trolls.

00:34:07.000 Secondly, I want Elon Musk to publicize all of the communication and actions that Twitter has agreed to via federal enforcement of censoring political opponents.

00:34:19.000 For example, since Elon Musk now will own Twitter after this lawsuit, maybe he can get into the story that showed that this program, the Charlie Kirk show, and my own personal social media sites, Twitter, were censored by third-party groups for the reason of the federal government insisting to do that.

00:34:40.000 I wanted to learn more about that.

00:34:41.000 So, look, Elon Musk has an opportunity to liberate American discourse.

00:34:47.000 And I said yesterday, and I'll say it again, I'm not trying to put all of our eggs in the Elon Musk basket because he does some stuff I really don't like.

00:34:54.000 Elon Musk's recent artificial intelligence stuff, not a fan.

00:34:58.000 Elon Musk's China stuff, not a fan.

00:35:01.000 But him buying Twitter and turning it into a legit marketplace of ideas and pushing back against the woke mind virus, I will be the biggest Elon Musk fan in that regard, especially if he can turn Twitter into a place where censorship is no longer the norm.

00:35:14.000 And I said it yesterday, I'll say it again as I finish my thought here.

00:35:18.000 Without censorship, I don't think the Democrats win anything.

00:35:21.000 If Elon Musk is legitimately able to get Twitter, I don't think it'll be done in time for the midterms, but if Elon Musk is legitimately able to get Twitter into a marketplace of ideas, at least the semblance of free speech, a Republican will win the White House in 2024.

00:35:35.000 If Twitter is able to be a place that is fair, open, and transparent, where the algorithms aren't hidden, where censorship doesn't happen because the FBI wants it to happen, or the Department of State wants it to happen, or the DHS or DHS wants it to happen, a Republican will in the White House in 2024.

00:35:50.000 And more than that, we will be a happier country and our politics will be de-radicalized.

00:35:59.000 So I certainly support Elon doing this.

00:36:01.000 Am I going to say that it's our great hope?

00:36:02.000 No.

00:36:03.000 It is a hope, and I hope Elon pulls it off.

00:36:06.000 This is some very, very good news today.

00:36:08.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:36:09.000 Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:36:12.000 Thank you so much for listening.

00:36:13.000 God bless.

00:36:17.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk. com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - October 04, 2022

Elon Musk Is Buying Twitter… AGAIN with John Ratcliffe and Dr. Scott Jensen

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