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00:00:46.000He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
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00:01:58.000First, I mean, it's important to remember that all polls are just a moment in time.
00:02:02.000So what we like to look at is the averages over time.
00:02:06.000That's historically been a pretty good indicator of where things are headed and historically have also undersampled President Trump's support and underestimated it.
00:02:16.000If you look at the RCP averages from the end of 2016 or 2020, President Trump ultimately did better than either of those averages suggested he would do before Election Day.
00:02:29.000And I just bring that up to point out where we are right now.
00:02:33.000The national polls, obviously, there's lots of national polls out right now.
00:02:36.000It's important to note that national polls don't mean anything.
00:02:41.000Ultimately, it's all about the electoral map.
00:02:44.000But today on the RCP average, President Trump is over six points ahead of where he was in the same day in 2020.
00:02:52.000That's a huge shift in our favor, obviously.
00:02:55.000And just earlier, I think it was yesterday, CNN was even pointing out that President Trump's favorability ratings are the highest they've ever been.
00:03:05.000So it depends on what state you look at, whether or not the president is leading or slightly down in the margin of error, according to the averages.
00:03:13.000But he's up in most of the states, according to the averages.
00:03:17.000We're on average anywhere from six points to eight points better on the averages today than we were at the same point in 2020.
00:03:24.000So understanding that perspective, things look really good.
00:03:29.000It's a little bit tighter of a race now than it was when President Biden was in the race.
00:03:33.000But ultimately, that's mostly being driven by Democrats that should have been with Biden-based Democrats really just at home and expressing some willingness to vote for Kamala Harris.
00:03:48.000Net-net, the president is leading and in a much better place from a polling perspective and an average perspective than he's ever been at this point in the race.
00:03:56.000Yeah, and to kind of double on that, President Trump is the best closer in American politics, and he's in a much better spot than he was in 2020.
00:04:04.000There was a Carolina Journal poll that just came out in the last couple of minutes, and it's a very good local poll that shows President Trump is currently, even with all this Kamala stuff, is double his winning margin, North Carolina, than in 2020, already at this place in August.
00:04:20.000And so he has a lot of room to grow from there.
00:04:23.000So James, I now want to get into the ground game here.
00:04:26.000How can our audience get involved and kind of incorporate that with the paths to victory, Trump Force 47, and talk about the significant ground game operation that you guys are building out at the Trump campaign?
00:04:40.000First of all, there's a bunch of paths to victories for President Trump.
00:04:43.000Many more paths than exist for Kamala Harris when you look at the electoral map.
00:04:47.000There's a bunch of iterations, but a few, if all else were held equal from 2020, meaning President Trump holds North Carolina, he would get 270 electoral votes with just Georgia and Pennsylvania.
00:05:00.000Or he could get over 270 electoral votes, 271 with Pennsylvania, Arizona, Nevada.
00:05:06.000Also Georgia plus Arizona plus any blue wall state works, Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Nevada, Nevada, Michigan, Georgia.
00:05:14.000So there's a bunch of different iterations within the core battleground states that everyone thinks of.
00:05:21.000And in terms of the ground game, things are going really well.
00:05:25.000I mean, there's hundreds of paid staff across the battleground states on the ground right now.
00:05:29.000There's over 300 Trump and GOP offices across the core battleground states.
00:05:35.000We've crossed 12,000 trained Trump Force 47 captains in the battleground states.
00:05:41.000We're adding about 2000 a week in change and actually expect that to increase
00:05:46.000because we're adding another wave of about 100 staff hires across the battleground states right now.
00:05:51.000And I wanna talk a little bit about if it's okay, Charlie, what a Trump Force 47 captain does.
00:05:57.000A Trump Force 47 captain signs up and then they have to come to a training,
00:06:02.000And ultimately they're assigned a target list low and mid propensity voters that are within their area.
00:06:06.000These voters live in their precinct, often in their neighborhood, and their job is to turn them out to the polls and contact those voters that are the most important to turn out and where a personal voter contact is the most impactful in getting them out to the polls.
00:06:19.000So this is really Working within the existing grassroots structure of the party down at the precinct level and using that precinct level energy to drive turnout amongst the voters that we really have to work hard to get to the polls to get our vote math to win in any given state.
00:06:33.000And the website again, James, for our audience to get involved?
00:08:17.000Today, it's over 259,000 more, so obviously a big swing in our favor there as well.
00:08:22.000And then Nevada, Going into 2020, the GOP trailed Democrats by about 86,000 registered voters.
00:08:28.000And as of July, because they don't do daily updates, they do monthly, that gap is down to 29,000 voters.
00:08:34.000And I would just point out in those three states, as I mentioned in the Path to Victory, in all three of those states, the net improvement for Republican voter registration is greater than the margin of the final posted election results in 2020.
00:08:49.000So those are great trends in our favor.
00:08:50.000And again, as I mentioned, you know, those three states alone give us 271 electoral votes, assuming we hold North Carolina, even if we didn't flip Michigan, if we didn't flip Wisconsin, if we didn't flip Georgia.
00:09:02.000So voter registration is very much in our favor, and we're investing heavily in it.
00:09:07.000It goes on in the field and online in various programs you don't always see, but Republicans should feel very good about the expanding base of the party across the battleground states.
00:09:18.000So we fell 10,000 votes short, allegedly, in 2020, however you want to analyze that.
00:09:23.000And there's 150,000 net new, net new, so net new.
00:09:27.000So it's nearly 10 times, even 15 times, you could say, more net new Republicans.
00:09:32.000And so, James, that also means we must chase.
00:09:34.000That's the work we're doing at Turning Point Action.
00:09:36.000We're all working, ground game stuff the best we can.
00:09:38.000What is, you know, you did this in Florida.
00:09:40.000Talk about the necessary component of early voting activation, chasing ballots, because if we outnumber them with the amount of ballots in the system, the volume, then we have to have the bodies and the energy to actually get those ballots into the system.
00:10:43.000We have to chase the ballots that are out there and continue to increase those ballots, which you guys have done great work on in Arizona and others around the country in increasing the rolls of absentee ballots amongst Republicans.
00:10:54.000But I do want to set expectations that look, the Democrats are going to have more early votes than we are.
00:11:00.000That's going to be true in most places.
00:11:02.000But the good news is our people are very enthusiastic.
00:11:04.000We ask them constantly how they plan to vote.
00:11:07.000And we have a pretty good sense of how many votes are going to come in before election day if people just behave the way they're telling us they're going to behave, you know, within sort of a statistical margin.
00:11:17.000So, you know, just set the table that the Democrats are probably going to have more early votes.
00:11:22.000We have great turnout on Election Day, always do, and get-out-the-vote efforts are good all the way until the polls close on Election Day, so that's what we'll be doing.
00:11:31.000But anything we can do to move up those ballots, move up the time that people cast a vote, our base, is a huge advantage.
00:11:39.000I'll also mention though something that talked about Charlie is persuasion.
00:11:43.000We have seen the very small segment of the elect that is still persuadable start to vote earlier.
00:11:49.000So we've really worked to start our persuasion efforts much earlier than we have historic.
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00:13:00.000I just want to summarize some of the electoral math.
00:13:04.000So if Donald Trump wins Pennsylvania and he wins Georgia and all the other states are solid, which it looks like they are, he's president.
00:13:12.000Now, if President Trump wins Pennsylvania and does not win Georgia, then he needs both Arizona and Nevada or He needs Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Arizona, and that's enough to bring him across the finish line.
00:13:25.000And Georgia is at best a toss-up for Kamala Harris.
00:14:05.000So yeah, this is a massive win for the cause against online censorship, I would say, because a GARM, this organization that is now shutting down in response to both the lawsuit from Elon Musk and the lawsuit from Rumble, as well as the House Judiciary Committee's investigation of the organization.
00:14:24.000The Global Alliance for Responsible Media, and it kind of tells you what it does in the
00:14:47.000So basically the entire advertising industry around the world was responsible for creating
00:14:52.000this organization, which had one purpose, which was to, as the title says, ensure responsible
00:14:59.000That means ensure that social media platforms and news media platforms online adhere to the global advertising industry's idea of good content moderation.
00:15:11.000So, you know, they didn't want advertising to appear on what they considered hate speech or misinformation and all the other excuses that they regularly use to demonetize and censor conservative viewpoints.
00:15:22.000So what this organization did, Was it it would act collectively to get the entire advertising industry to boycott platforms like X and Rumble and conservative news sources to starve them of ad revenue and put them out of business.
00:15:37.000So it was this massive force for financial blacklisting of disfavored news sources and disfavored social media platforms.
00:15:46.000So help me understand how this kind of fell apart so quickly.
00:16:01.000Within two days of Elon Musk and X filing the lawsuit against GARM and individuals associated with GARM, GARM decided to shut down.
00:16:10.000And this was also just, you know, eight days after we at the Foundation of Freedom Online started exposing its contracts with the federal government, billions of dollars going to members of GARM of U.S.
00:16:20.000taxpayer money, essentially meaning that U.S.
00:16:23.000taxpayers were funding the forces that are censoring them online or rolling back free
00:16:29.000And just less than a month after Jim Jordan released materials from internal communications
00:16:36.000from Garm as part of his investigation of the organization that showed, that really
00:16:41.000shone a light on exactly how partisan and biased this organization was.
00:16:48.000Some of the emails that Jordan found, you know, that you see members of Garm, you know,
00:16:52.000top executives in the advertising industry saying, yeah, you know, we, we hate news sources
00:16:58.000like Breitbart and, and, and conservative viewpoints.
00:17:01.000And we're constantly looking at monitoring them for violations so that we can pull our
00:17:05.000ad revenue from them and, you know, damage them financially.
00:17:09.000So you see them clearly in these internal emails admitting that they're looking for any excuse to pull advertising revenue from websites and platforms that they don't like.
00:17:19.000So is this enough to impact the 2024 election?
00:17:23.000And are we going to see a GARM 2.0 up and running in a couple weeks?
00:17:29.000I think the lesson the advertising industry might have learned from this is that, you know, if they create an organization like this, it's too easy.
00:17:36.000You know, just everyone under one banner.
00:17:38.000It's too easy to be accused of collusive behavior, to be accused of anti-competitive behavior.
00:17:44.000I think with regards to the election, You go back to 2020 and you see the advertising industry behaving in much the same way.
00:17:54.000In 2020, they actually waged a mass advertiser boycott against Facebook, driven by a media panic over so-called disinformation on Facebook.
00:18:06.000So the media was upset that Facebook wasn't censoring Donald Trump and Donald Trump supported it enough.
00:18:12.000So they went to advertisers and whipped up this huge boycott.
00:18:15.000And, you know, that put a lot of pressure on Facebook, which is almost entirely dependent on ad revenue.
00:18:19.000I think that's going to be much less likely this time around to see the similar sort of pressure against social media platforms, because now the advertising industry is on the defensive.
00:18:31.000Why are you pulling ad revenue from these platforms and not these platforms?
00:18:35.000Why are you pulling ad revenue from anti-establishment media, but not establishment media, even when the establishment media engages in disinformation?
00:18:45.000So it's on the defensive, it's being investigated, it's having its internal communications opened up to the public.
00:18:50.000I think they're in a much trickier spot and they'll be much more hesitant to engage in these kind of collective boycott actions to influence the election as they did last time.
00:19:00.000So, so Alam, help me understand that the, can you just, you're a tech expert on this.
00:19:05.000Can you give an analysis of the conditions to spread information this election cycle versus 2020?
00:19:13.000Are we objectively in a better position to be able to challenge narratives, to be able to get out stories like the Hunter Biden laptop than we were in 2020?
00:19:24.000I would say so, and I think for a number of reasons, actually.
00:19:29.000I think in 2020, the peak of online censorship was really from 2016 to 2020.
00:19:34.000That first election of Donald Trump kicked off everything.
00:19:38.000It kicked off a panic in Silicon Valley, a panic in the media, panic in the advertising industry.
00:19:43.000You had all these establishment corporate forces coming together, trying to figure out how they could stop Donald Trump from winning again, because that was the real catalyst.
00:19:52.000Frankly, there was some moves towards online censorship before that, driven by pro-censorship activists.
00:19:58.000But, you know, 2016 was a real turning point in Silicon Valley and in the advertising industry and in the media.
00:20:06.000And also in the deep state and all of these pro-censorship NGOs.
00:20:11.000They were the ones who started off the panic over Russiagate and Russian disinformation.
00:20:15.000And they took that panic to the tech companies.
00:20:18.000So you mentioned the Hunter Biden story.
00:20:21.000Um, a big reason why Silicon Valley platform censored the Hunter Biden stories, because they were told by, uh, by government agencies, by NGOs, that, you know, the Russians were preparing a big information drop to influence the 2020 election.
00:20:37.000It was just an excuse to censor this story that was damaging to the regime favored, establishment favored candidate.
00:20:45.000And I think a lot of Silicon Valley companies and people who worked in the Silicon Valley companies, they trusted a lot of these so-called experts on Russian disinformation.
00:20:54.000And then slowly over time, they realized they were being hoodwinked.
00:20:58.000They realized they were being taken for a ride.
00:21:01.000If you look at the Twitter files, in fact, you even see people like Yoel Roth, who's a very left-wing guy, saying, hang on a minute, all of these people who are being accused of being Russian bots on our platform, they're actually just Americans commenting on politics.
00:21:13.000So, you know, I think Silicon Valley is less naive than it was in 2020.
00:21:17.000They're less likely to believe people who say you have to censor your platform because, you know, foreign agents are trying to influence the elections.
00:21:26.000And you also have the censorship industry on the defensive, as we see with Garm shutting down, as we see with the Election Integrity Partnership, which the Foundation for Freedom Online has done a lot of work exposing them and how they contributed to 2020 election censorship.
00:21:41.000And that's in large part because of all the scrutiny they've received and all the investigations coming from lawmakers on the Hill.
00:21:51.000So I think there's a lot of reasons why censorship is not as bad this year as it was in 2020.
00:21:58.000But of course, we still have to be cautious.
00:22:00.000All of these platforms still have hate speech regulations.
00:22:02.000They still have regulations against disinformation.
00:22:05.000And you still have things like the Digital Services Act in Europe.
00:22:09.000And, you know, UK lawmakers now demanding more censorship, even from free speech platforms like Elon Musk's X. So there are still forces in favor of censorship that are very, very powerful.
00:22:20.000But I think they're less unopposed than they were in 2020.
00:25:27.000She cannot get away because if she does this to America, every one of us are going to either be leaving or we're going to be living like dogs.
00:25:37.000Kamala Harris is going around the country doing her rally campaign.
00:25:43.000She's actually here in Arizona today with Mr. Walz.
00:26:06.000If Donald Trump wins Pennsylvania and wins one of two of Arizona, Georgia, of which hopefully he wins both, he's president of the United States.
00:26:15.000John Fetterman knows Pennsylvania very well.
00:26:18.000He is making a prediction of who is going to win Pennsylvania.
00:26:23.000I think if you match up Trump, And Harris, which I think that's really what that this is really about.
00:26:30.000And I do believe he's going to win Pennsylvania.
00:26:33.000And of course, it's going to be close.
00:26:35.000But I've been maintaining that whether it's Biden, whether it was Clinton or whether now it's with Vice President Harris, it's going to be very close.
00:26:43.000It's going to come down to just a handful of key counties.
00:26:52.000So this is going to come down to just a couple of key counties and that's what's so important is we must look at this race with precision.
00:26:59.000That this is not about how well you do in California or Idaho or New York.
00:27:04.000It's going to come down to how well are you able to chase ballots in Allegheny County?
00:27:09.000How well are you going to be able to do in Maricopa, Pinal, Pima, Yavapai, Cochise, Navajo, Apache, Gila, Coconino, How well are you going to do in the counties that are going to make or break the entire election cycle?
00:27:30.000The voters on the ground are telling us that President Trump is dominant when it comes to the core issues of economy, of inflation, of market stability.
00:27:43.000Democrats have lost nearly 60,000 active voters since April in Pennsylvania.
00:27:51.000Every day we are beating Democrats in voter registration numbers on the ground in Pennsylvania and in Arizona and in Georgia.
00:27:58.000We are outnumbering them in these states.
00:28:00.000So it's going to come down to, can we deploy the appropriate force to be able to chase the ballots, to get the mail-in ballots into the system?
00:28:10.000And I'm not telling you you have to change your method of voting.
00:28:15.000But if you are a passive low propensity voter that doesn't listen to the Charlie Kirk Show, And you're a plumber, you're an electrician, you're a welder, a police officer, firefighter, and you vote passively?
00:28:25.000I much prefer that you vote by mail than not vote at all.
00:28:29.000I want to go to another piece of tape here, which is questions that were being asked on the ground of voters in Pennsylvania.
00:30:45.000That's why I believe President Trump should just go to a grocery store in every battleground state and just say, I'll pay for your groceries.
00:31:17.000And by the way, if Iran does end up retaliating against Israel, which we've been waiting for a couple of days, I don't know what's going on there.
00:31:23.000But if Iran ends up retaliating against Israel, oil will skyrocket.
00:31:28.000And Joe Biden has already spent down the Strategic Petroleum Reserve.
00:31:34.000The new strategy for Kamala Harris, it's not that dumb, but I don't know how it's going to work.
00:31:40.000We'll see, is that she's running on joy.
00:31:43.000Now, her thinking is this, that we live in a depressed country, which we do.
00:31:47.000We have the most depressed, suicidal, anxious, alcohol-addicted generation in history.
00:31:52.000And that if she kind of force-feeds joy, people are going to vote for her.
00:31:56.000This is Joy Reid talking about how happy of a person Kamala Harris is.
00:32:01.000You know, there's a lot of words I would use to describe Kamala Harris.
00:32:09.000And I mean, the thing about her, just since I've experienced her as a political figure, is that she is not, she hasn't become this happy person.
00:32:17.000Like she actually is this happy person, right?
00:32:19.000She and her sister are hilarious together.
00:33:43.000I mean, obviously, not just because of all the voter fraud and all that, but during COVID and the lockdowns, I learned at how people can be manipulated when the media all gets on the same page.
00:33:56.000We had people wearing masks alone driving cars.
00:33:59.000We had people jogging around in around lakes with a mask.
00:34:04.000Now have people woken up and learned post-COVID?
00:34:06.000I hope so, but we're still human beings.
00:34:31.000That were used in 2020 with the Mockingbird Media is now being used for Kamala Harris.
00:34:37.000The template was tested in 2020 and it's interesting.
00:34:41.000We thought that 2020 was a trial run for a World Economic Forum takeover in a very dystopian sense.
00:34:48.000Little did we know that the COVID playbook that was used in 2020 of all the lies of lockdowns and the gaslighting and the double speak was actually a trial run for the most unlikable politician named Kamala Harris.
00:35:02.000They worked out the kinks and they are using it in full force.
00:35:05.000The lying during COVID was some of the darkest in American history, from ivermectin being
00:35:11.000horse dewormer, from hydroxychloroquine being some sort of a fish drug, to drinking bleach.
00:35:17.000Donald Trump wants you to inject bleach.
00:35:19.000All the lies that were happening there and the people that unnecessarily died because