The Charlie Kirk Show - April 12, 2022


Ending Sexual Indoctrination and Exposing Infanticide with Lila Rose

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Lila Rose
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Lila Rose Turning Point USA Cesare Santangelo Kayleigh McEnany Candace Owens Christine Ohm Allie Beth Stuckey Ron DeSantis Mike Lindell Donald Trump Larry Hogan Phil Murphy Alex Clark Dana Lash Kindergarten Andrew
The Colonization of America How the New, 'Woke' Left Is Risking Their Own Permanent Destruction

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The Parents Party is growing, and it s a very important episode here on the Charlie Kirk Show. You ve heard us talk about it before, but have you actually heard it? Have you gone into the details of it? Well, if you have difficulty listening to some of these videos, just imagine a six-year-old right now watching them. That s what's happening in classrooms across America.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today in the Charlie Kirk show, we play some tape from amaze.org.
00:00:05.000 And I mean, I have a tough time getting through it.
00:00:08.000 This is sex education curriculum designed for five, six, and seven-year-olds.
00:00:13.000 You've heard us talk about it before, but have you actually heard it?
00:00:16.000 Have you gone into the details of it?
00:00:18.000 Well, if you have difficulty listening to some of these videos, just imagine a six-year-old right now watching that video.
00:00:26.000 That's what's happening in classrooms across America.
00:00:28.000 The Parents' Party, the family movement is growing.
00:00:31.000 And it's a very important episode here on the Charlie Kirk Show.
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00:01:02.000 Dana Lash, Allie Stuckey, and Lila Rose.
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00:01:57.000 Hello, everybody.
00:01:58.000 Welcome back.
00:01:59.000 Email us your thoughts, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:02:01.000 In an unexpected development, we are seeing that this kind of issue of sex education is now a primary issue.
00:02:11.000 Now, this used to be something that Democrats would win on.
00:02:14.000 Democrats used to win on this issue back in the 90s and early 2000s, where they say, we need to go teach teenagers about this stuff.
00:02:20.000 This is not about teenagers.
00:02:22.000 This is about four, five, and six-year-olds.
00:02:25.000 So we receive a lot of emails at freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:02:29.000 A lot of people that ask us about what's going on in the world.
00:02:32.000 And we have plenty of dissenters that email us.
00:02:34.000 We love disagreement.
00:02:36.000 And don't be surprised if you email me, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:02:40.000 If I respond, don't be surprised.
00:02:43.000 If you can't dish it, if you could dish it, I hope you could take it.
00:02:46.000 And so there's plenty of people that email us, and I'll respond sometimes in the middle of breaks if I think it's an unfair deal.
00:02:52.000 But sometimes there's some really good corrections and stuff.
00:02:54.000 So we had at least a couple dozen people say, Charlie, the sex education is not that bad in these schools. 0.99
00:03:00.000 It's okay for six-year-olds to be exposed.
00:03:02.000 I say, okay, do you really know what's being taught to these six-year-olds?
00:03:06.000 What's going to happen for a first grader, for example, eight-year-old in New Jersey?
00:03:13.000 This is an example of what eight-year-olds and seven and eight-year-olds will be taught in New Jersey, PlayCut 26.
00:03:20.000 Everyone has a way of expressing their masculinity and femininity to the world.
00:03:24.000 That is your gender expression. 0.93
00:03:27.000 The way a person expresses their gender doesn't tell us anything about who they are attracted to or which gender they feel they are inside.
00:03:35.000 People who have a gender identity that is not binary, sometimes called gender fluid, gender queer, or gender non-conforming, find that their gender identity does not fit into specific categories of male or female, but rather exists along a continuum.
00:03:52.000 Your gender identity is not something you can choose or change.
00:03:57.000 This is amaze.org.
00:04:00.000 They say your gender identity is not something you could choose or change.
00:04:00.000 It's kind of weird.
00:04:03.000 That's the whole point of what they're saying.
00:04:05.000 So I'm not really sure how that video ends.
00:04:07.000 That's for seven and eight-year-olds.
00:04:09.000 Imagine just the damage that does to a young person, to a student.
00:04:15.000 How about this one?
00:04:16.000 Cut 27.
00:04:17.000 This is a very graphic video.
00:04:19.000 In fact, it's so graphic that I think YouTube has it under restricted mode.
00:04:24.000 If you're in restricted mode, you're not able to see this.
00:04:26.000 Play cut 27.
00:04:28.000 Am I a bad person for watching porn? 0.99
00:04:33.000 Hashtag ask amaze. 0.95
00:04:37.000 Absolutely not. 0.66
00:04:39.000 Watching porn doesn't make you a bad person.
00:04:42.000 It means you're curious. 0.99
00:04:44.000 It's normal to want to know about sex and naked bodies. 1.00
00:04:48.000 I mean, look at this guy's penis. 1.00
00:04:52.000 Isn't it just unreal? 1.00
00:04:55.000 Whoa.
00:04:57.000 That's.
00:05:00.000 You guys did warn me about that one.
00:05:03.000 What?
00:05:05.000 Yeah, that's what they're teaching seven and eight-year-olds.
00:05:11.000 You guys edit videos all the time, and you had to put that one straight.
00:05:17.000 Oh, my goodness.
00:05:19.000 That's not appropriate for us.
00:05:20.000 And I'm 28 years old, let alone a seven-year-old.
00:05:24.000 I need to, like, if I was a, if I was Catholic, I'd go to confession, whatever.
00:05:31.000 Oh, my goodness.
00:05:32.000 If that makes me uncomfortable, it should make you uncomfortable.
00:05:35.000 That's for seven and eight-year-olds being taught in schools.
00:05:38.000 Right there.
00:05:39.000 Amaze.org is the one putting this forward.
00:05:43.000 And who are they?
00:05:45.000 Well, we're not totally sure.
00:05:48.000 I could speculate who's behind it.
00:05:50.000 I guarantee you that some of the worst industries in America are behind them.
00:05:56.000 I guarantee you that there's people behind amaze.org that have malevolent aims and ambitions.
00:06:04.000 Go to their partners at amaze.org.
00:06:07.000 Some of their partners include typical women rights groups.
00:06:11.000 Queer Lexicon is one of them, one of their partners. 0.99
00:06:14.000 I never heard of some of these groups.
00:06:16.000 My goodness.
00:06:17.000 Ah, the Planned Parenthood Association of Thailand.
00:06:20.000 Why would they be involved in this?
00:06:20.000 That's really weird.
00:06:22.000 Ah, the Institute of Reproductive Health.
00:06:24.000 So abortion groups are behind this. 0.80
00:06:24.000 Got it. 0.80
00:06:26.000 Make no mistake about that.
00:06:28.000 They have here, how about our annual report at amaze.org?
00:06:31.000 That video that you just saw, we're loading more videos too, by the way, just to give you an idea.
00:06:36.000 How big of an impact are they making?
00:06:38.000 Well, they are bragging that they are airing these videos on YouTube and through parents to be able to propagandize them, saying that they had over 3 million YouTube views, video views last year, and how they're having an impact all across the world and in schools as well.
00:06:59.000 Now, if that takes your breath away, it should.
00:07:02.000 And if you are shocked when you see this, I encourage you to get more involved and more aware of what's actually happening in your local schools, school boards in particular.
00:07:16.000 They mentioned Planned Parenthood directly in two of these videos, and it makes sense.
00:07:20.000 The abortion industry need abortions to keep their industry valid.
00:07:24.000 How do you get abortions? 1.00
00:07:25.000 People having unrestricted, generally young premarital sex.
00:07:30.000 That is the jet fuel of the abortion industry. 1.00
00:07:35.000 Planned Parenthood is an endorser of Amaze.org, bringing a message that growing up is normal and healthy.
00:07:40.000 The Amaze videos fill a critical gap in what's been available.
00:07:44.000 Center for Reproductive Rights says, quote, now more than ever, it's critical that our youth have access to accurate, fact-based sex education.
00:07:51.000 Amaze.org is making that happen with Amaze JR Jr. Global Doctors for Choice, also known as abortion.
00:07:58.000 We warmly welcome Amaz's contribution to the field of reproductive health and rights by normalizing sex education, sex education, and healthy sexual development among youth parents and educators.
00:08:08.000 The Columbia School of Health says, As a pediatrician, I know how important it is for young people to have all the information they need to keep themselves healthy.
00:08:15.000 Amaze.org is an incredible resource for adolescents and parents to empower themselves and keep young people safe and healthy.
00:08:22.000 And you think about it, every one of these industries need each other.
00:08:26.000 Getting children trying to watch pornography at a younger age makes more abortions likely in the future.
00:08:32.000 There's an organization called Catholics for Choice.
00:08:35.000 Can't imagine that has a huge following.
00:08:39.000 For youth having accurate information and answers to questions they need related to sex, reproductive health care, and changing bodies, healthy relationships is critical in helping make their own informed decisions.
00:08:50.000 Do we have cut 28 lined up?
00:08:52.000 Let's play cut 28.
00:08:54.000 To find out if your friend is pregnant, they can take a home pregnancy test. 0.81
00:08:58.000 These tests are available in grocery stores, drugstores, and local family planning clinics like Planned Parenthood.
00:09:06.000 So that's just a short snippet where they are advertising Planned Parenthood through these videos. 0.65
00:09:13.000 So here's how to have sex. 0.99
00:09:14.000 Here's how to watch porn. 0.99
00:09:16.000 Here's how to go.
00:09:17.000 And by the way, if you get pregnant, here's also a resource Planned Parenthood.
00:09:20.000 It's a business model.
00:09:21.000 Every single one of these industries needs each other.
00:09:24.000 Play Cut 29.
00:09:26.000 Be aware that there are some clinics that trick women into coming to them for pregnancy options counseling, but then do not accurately provide all of the information or talk honestly about all of the options open to a pregnant person.
00:09:39.000 There are three options open to a person who finds themselves pregnant.
00:09:43.000 Becoming a parent, putting the child up for adoption, and aborting the pregnancy. 0.93
00:09:48.000 Option one is to continue the pregnancy and parent the baby. 0.93
00:09:52.000 This is a tough road, especially if the person is still a teenager or in school.
00:09:57.000 This is a tough road.
00:09:58.000 So you might not have to have a child showing the child crying.
00:10:01.000 I mean, it's propaganda.
00:10:02.000 It's pro-abortion propaganda.
00:10:04.000 It's happening in your schools.
00:10:06.000 Your taxpayer dollars are funding this.
00:10:08.000 It's happening in more red states than you could possibly imagine.
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00:11:44.000 Our fundamental values are under attack.
00:11:46.000 And parents, you gotta get involved in school boards.
00:11:48.000 You gotta stand up for kids who cannot stand up for themselves.
00:11:51.000 The robbing of The innocence of children is so immoral.
00:11:56.000 And we as Westerners, we as Americans, we as patriots, we as constitutionalists believe that children's innocence need to be protected, deliberately protected.
00:12:06.000 We need to go above and beyond to protect the innocence of children.
00:12:10.000 This is why we have hopefully decency laws, laws against public nudity.
00:12:14.000 The protection of children, by the way, is also in our traffic laws.
00:12:19.000 We believe that children should be protected.
00:12:21.000 This is why we require people to slow down in front of schools.
00:12:25.000 You're in a school zone.
00:12:26.000 Why would we do that?
00:12:28.000 We don't tell people to slow down in front of a prison.
00:12:32.000 We don't tell people to slow down in front of a grocery store, but we tell people to slow down in front of a school.
00:12:38.000 It's a moral claim.
00:12:40.000 We're putting a moral tag, or we are making an argument that children's lives matter, and that we must be extra careful here because it would be tragic and wrong that a child who's innocent, who doesn't know any better, who wanders into the street, would be, God forbid, run over by a car.
00:12:56.000 That's why we ask you to slow down in school zones.
00:12:59.000 That's why the penalties are so harsh.
00:13:00.000 These videos from amaze.org, A-M-A-Z-E.org, are in schools all across the country, funded by the abortion industry, supported by the abortion industry.
00:13:10.000 And when we talk about that we're fighting against this sort of radical curriculum, this is the stuff that Ron DeSantis is fighting against.
00:13:16.000 This is the stuff that Larry Hogan wants in schools in Maryland.
00:13:20.000 This is the stuff that Phil Murphy wants in schools in New Jersey.
00:13:23.000 Cut 30, teaching young kids how to get an abortion. 0.89
00:13:26.000 Play Cut 30.
00:13:27.000 An abortion is a medical procedure done by a healthcare provider that ends a pregnancy once it has started. 0.96
00:13:33.000 Abortions are not available everywhere.
00:13:35.000 And in many places, a parent or guardian must sign for a teenager to get one.
00:13:39.000 Each decision has its challenges and advantages.
00:13:43.000 And while lots of people may have an opinion, the only person who can truly decide which one is right for them is the person who is pregnant. 1.00
00:13:51.000 Cut 31, the Amaze video, promotes Planned Parenthood and then promotes going around parents, breaking the bond between a parent and a child.
00:14:00.000 Play Cut 31.
00:14:02.000 Sexual health care can include lots of different things, like access to birth control or emergency contraception, STD, and HIV testing and treatment.
00:14:12.000 Depending upon where you live, there may be many places to get sexual health care, or there may be very few.
00:14:19.000 School may be a good starting place.
00:14:22.000 Some schools have a school-based health center and may offer services on site.
00:14:27.000 Another place you might go to is a local hospital, health department, or Planned Parenthood.
00:14:33.000 In some states, minors can get sexual health care without a parent's consent.
00:14:38.000 In others, depending on your age, you may need the consent of your parent to get services.
00:14:43.000 Unbelievable.
00:14:44.000 Trying to dart away from parents reading the newspaper, and of course, the stereotype of an overweight white male father reading the newspaper, kind of scooting across the screen.
00:14:55.000 This one's tough.
00:14:56.000 It's a crazy one, so just watch out.
00:14:59.000 But if we aren't able to watch these without getting uncomfortable, why are we not fighting against this stuff in our schools?
00:15:04.000 Play Cut 32.
00:15:07.000 Yes, yes.
00:15:08.000 Come on.
00:15:09.000 Oh, yes.
00:15:09.000 Yes.
00:15:11.000 Aha! 0.94
00:15:12.000 What are you doing there?
00:15:14.000 You'll have an apple one day.
00:15:15.000 You'll go blind.
00:15:17.000 I'm coming. 1.00
00:15:19.000 How many times is too many to masturbate in one day? 1.00
00:15:24.000 There's no limit on the number of times a person can masturbate each day. 0.97
00:15:28.000 It's normal to have lots of sexual feelings and desires when going through puberty. 0.74
00:15:33.000 And while some people want to do it all day long, others may not want to.
00:15:39.000 Do it as much as you want.
00:15:43.000 Whatever makes you feel good.
00:15:44.000 There's no downside.
00:15:46.000 It's eye-opening for a lot of you.
00:15:48.000 What is all of this?
00:15:48.000 It's happening in your schools.
00:15:50.000 Your taxpayer dollars are funding this garbage. 1.00
00:15:53.000 Cut 33. 1.00
00:15:54.000 Here's an example.
00:15:55.000 Transgender teacher tells kindergartens, cardiners, when babies are born, doctors guess if they're boys or girls.
00:16:00.000 This is a kindergarten teacher.
00:16:02.000 Play Cut 33.
00:16:03.000 I'm going to give you my explanation about what it means to be transgender as well.
00:16:08.000 So when babies are born, the doctor looks at them and they make a guess about whether the baby is a boy or a girl based on what they look like.
00:16:16.000 That's a kindergarten teacher.
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00:17:25.000 There's a story that happened recently that was not covered.
00:17:27.000 In fact, it was covered up by the regime media of something happened in Washington, D.C. that may indicate infanticide.
00:17:35.000 With us right now is Lila Rose from the wonderful organization liveaction.org.
00:17:40.000 That's liveaction.org.
00:17:42.000 I'm not a monthly donor to many organizations, but I am to live action.
00:17:46.000 Lila, welcome back to the program.
00:17:48.000 Thanks, Charlie.
00:17:49.000 Thanks so much for all your support.
00:17:50.000 It's awesome.
00:17:52.000 Thank you.
00:17:52.000 So walk us through what happened in Washington, D.C., or what we think happened.
00:17:56.000 This is a devastating story.
00:17:56.000 Sure.
00:17:58.000 So just a warning initially for folks listening.
00:18:01.000 This is something that's right out of a horror movie, but it's happening in our nation's capital and in cities across the country.
00:18:07.000 And this is at the heart of what happened.
00:18:09.000 Brave pro-life activists were given a medical waste box outside an abortion clinic by the driver for this medical waste company.
00:18:17.000 And that's because they had a conversation with the driver and they said this box has the abortionist's name on it.
00:18:22.000 This is probably bodies of children.
00:18:24.000 The driver had no clue that that was what was shipped and loading into his truck.
00:18:29.000 And he hands the box over to the activists because they said they want to give these children a proper burial.
00:18:34.000 The activists open the box and they find the remains of over 110 children.
00:18:39.000 Most of them are in the first trimester, but there are five of the children that look like they are ready to be born practically.
00:18:46.000 I mean, beautifully formed babies that are in the late second or even the third trimester that had been savagely torn apart by this late-term abortionist in Washington, D.C.
00:18:56.000 And I'm just going to share briefly about the conditions of their bodies because this is at the center of the story.
00:19:01.000 Late-term abortion is legal through all nine months in Washington, D.C., but infanticide is still illegal.
00:19:07.000 And a certain kind of abortion, partial birth abortion, is a federal crime.
00:19:11.000 So this abortionist in D.C. is now allegedly committing infanticide as well as prohibited abortions.
00:19:18.000 One of these five infants whose bodies were found, the remains were found by the pro-life activists, was a little girl, 28 to 30 weeks old.
00:19:26.000 Charlie, I saw the images of these children and I am still heartbroken.
00:19:30.000 I mean, it's something that you can never unsee.
00:19:31.000 I've been involved in pro-life work for almost two decades now in almost my entire life, and I've seen the reality of abortion, but you can see the cruelty done to these beautiful children that should have been born, that could have been born.
00:19:46.000 This one little girl, 28 to 30 weeks old, her neck had been cut.
00:19:50.000 Her brain had been suctioned out by the abortionist. 1.00
00:19:54.000 One of her eyes is open and looking as if, you know, how could this be done to me?
00:19:59.000 I mean, this is a girl that deserved love.
00:20:01.000 Another baby boy, maybe full term.
00:20:03.000 Medical experts have looked at the documentation of these children's bodies and they say this baby could have been in a nursery.
00:20:08.000 I mean, he looked like he's full term.
00:20:10.000 He looked to be born intact.
00:20:13.000 He was dumped in this medical waste bucket, possibly alive, because it's not clear how the abortionist could have actually killed him.
00:20:19.000 There's no trauma on his body.
00:20:21.000 So it's like this fully born, fully developed, intact infant that was born.
00:20:25.000 And, you know, presumably these abortionists just let him die or dumped him in this bucket of medical waste solution.
00:20:30.000 The other bodies of the children, dismembered, terribly dismembered, torn into pieces, limb from torso.
00:20:36.000 The last child was born in call in the amniotic fluid stack.
00:20:41.000 And that also raises the question of infanticide, because if it was born intact, how did he kill the child first?
00:20:46.000 If this baby was delivered in a late-term abortion and then just left to die, that would have been infanticide. 0.96
00:20:51.000 So we are calling on DC officials to do their job here.
00:20:54.000 It looks like infanticide is taking place in our nation's capital.
00:20:58.000 It looks like illegal partial birth abortion is taking place in our nation's capital.
00:21:02.000 And guess what?
00:21:02.000 Whether it was illegal or not, this is cruel and depraved acts against human beings that deserve to live.
00:21:10.000 And so we are calling for justice to be done.
00:21:12.000 And, you know, one last bit of the story, too.
00:21:14.000 This abortionist, Cesare Santangelo in DC, that the remains of these children were found near his clinic or at his clinic.
00:21:22.000 We've investigated them before at live action.
00:21:24.000 I know this abortionist's name.
00:21:26.000 We've investigated him for the last decade.
00:21:28.000 He has admitted to live action on undercover camera.
00:21:31.000 And this was years before these activists found the remains of these children.
00:21:35.000 He admitted on camera that he would let an infant die in his abortion clinic if the baby was born alive during a failed abortion. 0.93
00:21:43.000 So he's even on camera saying, I will kill a born alive infant. 0.79
00:21:48.000 And now we found the bodies of his victims.
00:21:51.000 And yet, DC police, the DC medical examiner, and the DC mayor have yet to do anything to procure justice for these children, which is why we had this campaign ongoing called Justice for the Five.
00:22:03.000 And we're calling on DC officials to do their job right now.
00:22:06.000 Yeah, that's murder.
00:22:07.000 And I don't think they will do the investigation unless there's enough push.
00:22:10.000 And that's at liveaction.org where people can get engaged and get involved.
00:22:15.000 So similar to this in California, there's a bill that is progressing through, you still live in California, I think, to try and legalize abortion up to seven days after birth.
00:22:29.000 That's not an exaggeration.
00:22:31.000 That's in the bill seven days after birth.
00:22:34.000 Now, my take on this, and I'd love your thought, Lila, is obviously it's murder, but I believe it's murder before birth.
00:22:42.000 And so they are being now as consistent as we are being.
00:22:46.000 If they don't believe that it's a baby at 18 weeks, why would they believe it at six days?
00:22:52.000 Yeah, you're exactly right, Charlie.
00:22:54.000 These are word games that they're playing.
00:22:56.000 It's irrational in every sense to say that it's suddenly a child minutes before birth, you know, eight inches of birth canal and in the womb, it's not a baby, doesn't need legal protection. 0.99
00:23:08.000 You know, you can savagely tear it into pieces and kill him or her.
00:23:12.000 But if he or she is born, you know, literally seconds later, then that child has full legal protection. 0.97
00:23:18.000 If you kill that child, that's a murder and you can be tried for it in a court of law.
00:23:24.000 It's completely nonsensical.
00:23:26.000 And they know it.
00:23:26.000 They know it's nonsensical because the reality is, if you're a human being, you're a human being, period.
00:23:31.000 If you're human, you have human rights, period.
00:23:33.000 But that's not the way our laws work right now.
00:23:35.000 And so because they are seeing how irrational it is, they're actually going a step further in California, as you just mentioned, Charlie.
00:23:41.000 And they're also trying to do this in Maryland.
00:23:43.000 They're also trying to do this in other states as well, where they're now saying in the perinatal period, which is the days or weeks after a baby is born, then there should be no criminalization of any decision, quote unquote, decision that a mother or a doctor makes about the child's care or lack of care.
00:24:02.000 And so that means you can expose effectively or leave to die a newborn and there should be no legal penalties for you.
00:24:10.000 This is infanticide.
00:24:12.000 We have gotten to that point.
00:24:13.000 And so when pro-choice people say, well, this is really about women's choice and, you know, et cetera, et cetera.
00:24:18.000 No, this is about the killing of children, sometimes full, fully developed infants.
00:24:23.000 And now the true colors are showing.
00:24:25.000 They're not even hiding it anymore.
00:24:27.000 And they're working actively to legalize infanticide.
00:24:31.000 Yeah.
00:24:32.000 And I mean, if we, you and I are very pro-life.
00:24:34.000 Obviously, you are your own whole organization, but we believe it is infanticide, regardless of if it's a baby outside the womb or not.
00:24:41.000 It shouldn't matter the location of the baby.
00:24:43.000 And they agree.
00:24:45.000 And that's the whole point is that they're starting to actually agree in the sense of, well, we're going to be consistent.
00:24:50.000 We don't believe that the human card magically gets distributed just because a baby's born.
00:24:56.000 Like, who's to say?
00:24:57.000 You know, it's not a human until the human can provide for itself.
00:25:01.000 I've heard that argument before.
00:25:02.000 I know you have as well.
00:25:03.000 That as long as the human is dependent, you could just pull the plug.
00:25:07.000 And that is consistent with some of their late term of life care policy, where they think that you should be able to pull the plug on elderly people.
00:25:14.000 There's an interesting through line here.
00:25:15.000 I don't think it's interesting. 0.71
00:25:16.000 I think it's diabolical and demonic and satanic. 0.93
00:25:19.000 But so I want to ask you, Lila, about, so there's a lot of news right now about sexual education and this graphic nonsense. 0.93
00:25:27.000 And we've been playing some of these clips here.
00:25:29.000 We on this show make an argument.
00:25:31.000 This is actually all tied together.
00:25:33.000 Yeah.
00:25:33.000 That sometimes people are like, oh, there's the life issue, but then we also need to educate kids, you know, six-year-olds how to put condoms on cucumbers.
00:25:41.000 Why are they all related?
00:25:43.000 Yeah.
00:25:43.000 Well, a couple of things.
00:25:44.000 First of all, we are witnessing an all-out war on children.
00:25:48.000 And I think it is diabolical.
00:25:50.000 The devil hates human beings.
00:25:52.000 He hates innocence. 0.97
00:25:52.000 He hates life. 0.97
00:25:54.000 He hates children.
00:25:55.000 So anything to destroy them.
00:25:56.000 And if we as adults let it happen or worse, enable it, then we are also destroyed.
00:26:02.000 You know, our entire moral compass has been obliterated.
00:26:05.000 And there's nothing that on a spiritual plane that the demons of the world that Satan wants than to destroy the conscience of an adult and to make them enablers of a child's abuse.
00:26:15.000 So there's two through lines.
00:26:16.000 First, the through line is those that are weak, those that are defenseless, those that are dependent on others for their care, children, are always the short end of the stick in an immoral and unprincipled society.
00:26:30.000 And that's where we're headed.
00:26:31.000 That's where we're headed, where we've been headed since Roe v. Wade, since the sexual revolution.
00:26:36.000 Did we really think that once sexual liberation came to America, the fake liberation of saying sex is about my pleasure only?
00:26:44.000 It's no responsibility.
00:26:46.000 There's no moral code for sex.
00:26:48.000 Did we really think that sex removed from a moral code, from the beautiful design that I believe God created for sex, would not eventually harm children?
00:26:57.000 I mean, that just shows our wild naivete to think that somehow children would be spared of that complete, the complete depravity that I think is coming, that has come and is coming.
00:27:09.000 And then on the abortion front, did we really think that in a world where adults say, I get to have sex on my terms, how I want, no responsibilities, no morality necessary, I decide my own morality, whatever I want it to be, that the natural outcome of sex, which is children, you know, sex is designed to bring children into the world and that's a beautiful thing.
00:27:28.000 Do we really think that those children were going to be treated with the respect and the care that they deserve, that they deserve?
00:27:33.000 And they aren't.
00:27:34.000 I mean, that's why the abortion rate, Charlie, right now is 2,363 children killed every single day.
00:27:40.000 2,363 children killed daily in America by legal abortion.
00:27:46.000 It's the leading death toll.
00:27:48.000 And it's because of the sexual choices of adults.
00:27:51.000 That's right.
00:27:51.000 And, you know, it comes back to adults.
00:27:55.000 How moral?
00:27:57.000 How principled?
00:27:58.000 What are the values of the adults?
00:27:59.000 Because that will be the fate of the children.
00:28:01.000 That's exactly right.
00:28:03.000 And I do start to see some backlash against this, more even so than 10 years ago.
00:28:07.000 Would you agree?
00:28:08.000 Yeah, and it's because of awareness.
00:28:10.000 I mean, you expose an evil and people get riled up.
00:28:13.000 And thank God for that.
00:28:14.000 I'm so grateful for, you know, the voices out there exposing this radical agenda, you know, whether it's at Disney, the sexualization, the intentional sexualization of children at Disney through their programming, whether it is, you know, in our curriculum, whether it is obviously the abortion industry and what abortionists are doing to our children and what politicians are enabling them to do.
00:28:34.000 All of this is good that it's being exposed.
00:28:36.000 But here's the secret, the secret solution and not so secret solution.
00:28:40.000 It's us.
00:28:41.000 We can't just be outraged.
00:28:43.000 We have to take action.
00:28:44.000 And it has to be consistent, faithful action over a period of time until we've achieved protection for children, both born and unborn.
00:28:51.000 So, you know, our job is cut out for us as adults, not just parents, but any adult.
00:28:56.000 You know, being that's another thing.
00:28:57.000 You know, I'm a mom.
00:28:58.000 I have two little boys and my perspective has just deepened on the importance of this fight for our children.
00:29:05.000 But whether you're a mom or not, whether you're a dad or not, we're all called as adults to be motherly or fatherly for those that are less fortunate or those that are in need or those that are younger.
00:29:15.000 So we all have the mother or the father in us, whether we're actually the gift of biological motherhood or fatherhood.
00:29:20.000 And so anybody who's listening, like be that fighter for those that are more vulnerable.
00:29:24.000 And that means, you know, getting involved in politics, getting involved in the school board, everything that you're working on, Charlie, doing that and keeping the fight on, not giving up.
00:29:32.000 Lila, you're so right.
00:29:34.000 So the mark of a good society or a society that wants to be good is when the strong protect the weak.
00:29:39.000 Exactly.
00:29:40.000 Lila, we've been playing some of these tapes from amaze.org.
00:29:43.000 I want to play one of them for you.
00:29:45.000 And this is a pro-abortion sex education propaganda project that's in our schools all across the country for five, six, and seven-year-olds.
00:29:51.000 I want to replay one of them for you and get your response to this.
00:29:55.000 Let's do cut 30, where it shows, it tells kids how to get an abortion. 0.95
00:30:00.000 Play cut 30.
00:30:01.000 An abortion is a medical procedure done by a healthcare provider that ends a pregnancy once it has started. 0.96
00:30:07.000 Abortions are not available everywhere.
00:30:09.000 And in many places, a parent or guardian must sign for a teenager to get one.
00:30:14.000 Each decision has its challenges and advantages.
00:30:17.000 And while lots of people may have an opinion, the only person who can truly decide which one is right for them is the person who is pregnant. 1.00
00:30:25.000 Lila?
00:30:27.000 I mean, can you imagine a video? 0.98
00:30:29.000 The only person who can truly decide whether or not you should stab your classmates is you.
00:30:34.000 I mean, this is the, this is, this is anti-morality training.
00:30:38.000 That's what it is. 0.55
00:30:40.000 And what's so sick about it is it's not just attack your classmate, it's attack a baby.
00:30:44.000 You know, instead of training kids to like love each other and treat each other with respect and we see children as gifts, it's saying babies are, you can literally throw them away and it's up to you if you get pregnant. 0.84
00:30:58.000 So it's, it's disgusting.
00:31:00.000 This is it, it's an all-out war for kids right now, for the, for the hearts and minds of kids.
00:31:04.000 And we need a parents party.
00:31:06.000 We need a family movement.
00:31:07.000 I see it happening.
00:31:08.000 But one of the reasons I like your organization, Lila, Live Action, is that it really, you engage in the moral argument, which is that you really don't get to create your own truth.
00:31:18.000 That is the baseline of your work, isn't it?
00:31:20.000 Of course it is.
00:31:21.000 And it has to be the baseline of anybody who believes in human rights.
00:31:24.000 I mean, whether you're religious or not, we were founded on this idea that there are fundamental human rights that we're endowed with by a creator so that they're not given by man.
00:31:33.000 They're given by a creator.
00:31:35.000 So they're absolute and they're objective.
00:31:38.000 And to say that we get to decide because we're more powerful.
00:31:42.000 You know, you're more powerful than the unborn baby. 0.98
00:31:44.000 Do you get to decide whether or not to kill them?
00:31:46.000 You're more powerful than the child sitting in your classroom. 0.94
00:31:48.000 So you get to decide what to brainwash them with depending on your preferences and your own deviant behaviors.
00:31:53.000 No, it doesn't work like that.
00:31:55.000 And again, morality is to set people free.
00:31:58.000 Morality actually are ground rules of what is right and wrong so that we can actually be happier and healthier.
00:32:05.000 And so that is, I think you're right.
00:32:06.000 This is a pro-family movement that's emerging and I'm excited about it because the end message is a really beautiful one.
00:32:12.000 It's saying, people want to be happy.
00:32:14.000 How do you be happy?
00:32:15.000 Marriages, actually, faithful, monogamous marriages that are open to life are the statistically happiest relationships.
00:32:21.000 That's exactly right.
00:32:23.000 Children are happiest when they're raised by a mother and a father who love each other and are married.
00:32:27.000 I mean, statistically speaking, the pro-family message that we have, Charlie, is the one that leads people to the most happiness.
00:32:35.000 And so that's why I think our movement is just getting started in many ways.
00:32:38.000 And I think it's incredibly winsome.
00:32:41.000 Cut 29, this is the opposition, right?
00:32:43.000 This is the opposition I think that is weakening and I think is losing its grasp on society.
00:32:49.000 I want you to listen.
00:32:50.000 It doesn't say women.
00:32:51.000 It says pregnant person. 0.96
00:32:53.000 And listen to how this is for eight, nine, and 10 year olds, but also teenagers that might be getting pregnant.
00:32:59.000 Listen to how they categorize the idea of having a child.
00:33:05.000 Play Cut 29.
00:33:06.000 Be aware that there are some clinics that trick women into coming to them for pregnancy options counseling, but then do not accurately provide all of the information or talk honestly about all of the options open to a pregnant person.
00:33:20.000 There are three options open to a person who finds themselves pregnant.
00:33:24.000 Becoming a parent, putting the child up for adoption, and aborting the pregnancy. 0.93
00:33:29.000 Option one is to continue the pregnancy and parent the baby. 0.93
00:33:32.000 This is a tough road, especially if the person is still a teenager or in school.
00:33:38.000 A tough road, Lila.
00:33:39.000 What?
00:33:40.000 I mean, it's almost satire.
00:33:42.000 It's like, is this almost a joke about how horrible pro-abortion people are, you know, in the way that they message on this?
00:33:49.000 But no, this is their exact thing.
00:33:50.000 I mean, what more sick way to portray being a mother to say, oh, it's so stressful and the baby's just screaming at you?
00:33:56.000 What about the child that looks you in the eyes and you never know a love like that?
00:34:01.000 You know, I have two little sons, a newborn, a five-month-old, and like, I can't even begin to express the utter and complete joy.
00:34:08.000 Yes, it's hard, but the utter and complete joy of being a mom.
00:34:11.000 Where's that video?
00:34:12.000 And yeah, being a young mom has partic can have unique challenges, but that's another story is the, all of the support that does exist for young moms and the amazing young moms that have done amazing things while being young moms.
00:34:24.000 So, you know, what is the most empowering message to a woman who finds herself pregnant? 0.62
00:34:29.000 It's not to say, oh, your baby's going to scream, so you should go to an abortion and kill it before it's even born. 1.00
00:34:33.000 That's like that is the worst message you could possibly give to a woman who's just discovering she's pregnant. 1.00
00:34:39.000 Liveaction.org, Lila Rose.
00:34:41.000 Thank you so much.
00:34:42.000 Come back soon.
00:34:43.000 Thank you.
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