00:00:00.000Hey, everybody, in this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show, new CEO of Twitter, the Ghelain Maxwell trial, Waukesha, Kyle Rittenhouse, 1984, all brought to you with Jack Pesobic.
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00:02:16.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:04:18.000And in addition to that, you know, how they try to destroy his life, basically because he fit into an archetype that the regime doesn't want, which is a young white male from northern Illinois carrying a gun with his mouth open and the hat backwards during the midst of Floyd Apalooza.
00:04:37.000Well, it was also because it served two purposes for the regime propagandists.
00:04:41.000So one was that it forced them to have to deal with the fact that the 2020 riots were in fact riots and not peaceful protests.
00:04:51.000So it forced you to deal with that violence, but it also provided them a scapegoat.
00:04:57.000It provided the entire national media, the national establishment infrastructure with a scapegoat to be able to pin everything on and say, don't worry.
00:05:05.000Don't worry about the 30-plus people who were killed in these riots.
00:05:08.000Don't worry about the kids who were killed in Chaz up in Seattle.
00:05:48.000It's the exact same thing, by the way, that used to happen at Trump rallies all the way back in 2015, 2016, where Antifa or left-wing groups would show up and they would start attacking people.
00:06:00.000San Jose was one of the biggest ones of these in 2015.
00:06:03.000They would start attacking people coming out of the rally, throwing eggs at women and different things.
00:06:09.000And the media would always refer to it as violence breaks out at Trump rallies.
00:06:22.000And it's intentional for the purpose of trying to, I mean, create a narrative.
00:06:28.000All they have is the narrative, right?
00:06:30.000And so here you have two incidents, right?
00:06:32.000So you have Kyle Rittenhouse, who has been declared not guilty, innocent by a jury of his peers for self-defense, never should have been indicted, never should have put in prison for 87 days, never should have been put through all this smeared, and he's victorious.
00:06:44.000But just right down the street, and Jack, you've kind of, you have, you have this tendency to zero in on really important stories that the media tends to forget about and then just kind of keeping the drumbeat going.
00:06:54.000And I mean that you're the best at that is this story of what happened in Waukesha, which was a Christmas parade.
00:07:02.000And you have a black terrorist who's an anti-Semite who gets in the car, intentionally murders six people and injures 40 others.
00:07:10.000We should point out as well that there are still children in the ICU right now, as you and I are talking.
00:07:15.000And the media will not be bothered by this.
00:07:17.000And what's amazing is, and I saw some tweets about this, that people were even saying they're like, hey, I've got like liberal friends and colleagues.
00:08:02.000But from an analytic perspective, you're hitting on social, biological, and spiritual triggers within people that are at a very, very deep level.
00:08:11.000We're talking deep programming, base level programming.
00:08:44.000So they could figure out the different speeds that he was using along that route.
00:08:49.000And they realized that the only way it made sense, Charlie, was if he was driving slowly at the beginning and then sped up as he got closer to the parade.
00:08:59.000The other thing that they showed very clearly for anyone to see, if you're not from Waukesha, and I remember in the early minutes of this, there's a group I work with called MythInformed Milwaukee, and they're all locals to the area.
00:09:24.000They point out he had to turn through the barricades, turn onto a separate road, drive through the barricades deliberately to attack this parade.
00:09:34.000If he was right to take the media's disinformation line, and it is disinformation, we can talk more about that.
00:09:40.000It wouldn't have made any sense because he could have just continued driving straight and then been out of town.
00:09:46.000And yet the media will not be concerned or distracted by this whatsoever.
00:09:51.000They want nothing to do with Waukesha at all.
00:09:53.000Well, I think you have different levels, right?
00:09:56.000So I think most people that work and there was a there's actually a line in on Ryan Long's podcast recently to give a guy a shout out.
00:10:04.000He said, we should stop calling them journalists.
00:10:05.000We should just start calling them content creators.
00:10:07.000So Brian Stelter's a CNN content creator and Jake Tapers a CNN content creator.
00:10:12.000Well, TikTok people have far more integrity, though.
00:10:32.000They know that the people that are hired at that level, look, you end up going through one of these J schools, journalism schools, and you get like a 22-year-old graduate.
00:10:41.000They don't know how to do journalism anymore.
00:10:43.000They're activists whose journalism consists of, oh, I'm going to type in the search bar on Google and pick whatever the top three links are.
00:11:26.000No follow-up about friends and family, none about motives, none about, you know, where they came from.
00:11:32.000But Charlie, think of the narrative policing that's done by people.
00:11:34.000So they call them the narrative police.
00:11:36.000Maybe we call them narrative commissars now, by places like the Daily Beast.
00:11:39.000They'll tell you every single thing that Kyle Rittenhouse ever said on social media, the name of his account, what kind of hand gestures he's making in photos on his account.
00:11:49.000But when it comes to Darrell Lee Brooks, don't talk about that account.
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00:13:32.000I don't do a lot of joint interviews, but I said, Jack deserves and earned to interview Kyle alongside me because you were on top of the Rittenhouse thing the entire time.
00:13:42.000You know, I just thought that it was a case where it would have been very easy and probably, you know, to some extent safer, right, to not talk about this.
00:13:52.000The media had run an entire disinformation program against this individual and said he's a racist and he's a killer and he's a murderer and a thug and a thrill seeker and all this stuff.
00:14:05.000And the normal things where people could say, well, you know, maybe I'll just go tweet about the CCP and, you know, do something that is considered a little safer these days.
00:14:15.000I don't know if the CCP is considered safer, but it's definitely safer than Rittenhouse.
00:15:07.000If you met someone who's been in combat, that, you know, they used to call it shell shock, you know, before they had real studies on it, but classic symptoms, right?
00:15:14.000Anybody who said that was, you know, put on or something.
00:15:18.000No, that's, that's what it looks like.
00:15:22.000So, you know, it was a situation where I said, I don't want to let the media win on this because I think this is something where it's not just about, it is about Kyle, the person, right?
00:15:33.000And certainly his family and everything they've been through, but it's also about where we are as a country, whether or not we have the right to self-defense, the Second Amendment.
00:15:40.000And, you know, I had to say this because I think a lot of people weren't getting it that self-defense.
00:15:46.000They said, well, why do you, why can you do that?
00:16:06.000If you can't defend your life, well, then you don't actually have any positive expression of that right.
00:16:10.000So, yes, the right to defend your life means I will defend my life up to and including any cost because I will have that right and I will defend it.
00:16:32.000We ended up getting, well, the big one, I think, really, and there's lots of little things that you could say, you know, we got into the evidence tampering.
00:16:38.000We got into the really corrupt things that this DA Binger and this guy Lunchbox, I call him, were doing his sidekick.
00:16:44.000Nobody even remembers his name anywhere.
00:17:00.000And we got the actual footage from an FBI, it was contractors, FBI contracted airplane with an optical package on the bottom of it, where this had not been released for 14 months, Charlie.
00:17:16.000The FBI, the whole thing was exculpatory.
00:17:20.000But here's the bigger question: what was the FBI hiding?
00:17:25.000They probably had these up over every single one of those riots in 2020.
00:17:30.000The riots that were all told were just political protests.
00:17:32.000And I'll do one better, they more than likely had a special access program or a SAP that was running where, do you really think the FBI is only going to put an optical package on their planes?
00:17:43.000They more than likely had a signals package, communications package, where they're tracking cell phones, they're tracking SIM cards, they want to know who's in there.
00:17:50.000So that means in real time, more than likely in real time, they knew exactly who was in that riot, exactly who was firing, exactly who was chasing who, even several of the people who fired at Kyle that have still not been identified.
00:18:04.000Because I watch that video a lot of times.
00:18:05.000When he's running down that street, you can hear gunfire going off at him.
00:18:15.000It was exculpatory and it could have all of this drama with Kyle could have been avoided, but the prosecutors intentionally withheld evidence.
00:18:23.000Imagine if that video had come out the next day.
00:18:25.000Yeah, and it would have changed the entire game.
00:18:27.000But of course, our government is not in the interest of protecting young teenagers that are not in the regime.
00:18:36.000But Charlie, I thought it was all about finding truth and seeking justice.
00:21:38.000So he saw it, but he didn't realize that even the technology, and he, you know, how would you know, writing in the 40s, that the technological capacity that we would have to do?
00:21:49.000When he wrote the book, we didn't have iPhones.
00:21:57.000Was it how many 15 minutes exercise or something every morning?
00:22:02.000I would actually not, I don't think Orwell got anything wrong.
00:22:04.000Which, by the way, I mean, if every American had to do 15 minutes exercise, that might just say.
00:22:10.000I just don't think the way that we look at 84 is totally correct, which is the end of 84 is the most important part where the initial rebel actually then becomes a subservient slave to the state because it's this loop that Orwell argues.
00:22:26.000It's a very provocative argument that hatred can eventually become love if you if you push the human soul and spirit so far.
00:22:36.000Hatred and love are two sides of the same coin.
00:23:15.000This last was for the disposal for waste paper.
00:23:18.000Similar slits existed in thousands or tens of thousands throughout the building, not only in every room, but at short intervals in every corridor.
00:23:27.000For some reason, they were nicknamed memory holes.
00:23:31.000When one knew that any document was due for destruction, or even when one saw a scrap of waste paper lying about it, it was an automatic action to lift the flap of the nearest memory hole and drop it in.
00:23:43.000Whereupon it would be whirled away on a current of warm air to the enormous furnaces which were hidden somewhere in the recesses of the building.
00:23:53.000What is Orwell talking about here, Jack?
00:23:55.000So, and I don't even think people realize that memory holing actually is a term that was created by Orwell, the fact that we use it all the time now.
00:24:05.000What he's talking about is if something becomes dangerous to the narrative or something becomes problematic for the narrative, then it must be disposed of.
00:24:16.000Specifically, they talk about people and they're referring to certain Soviet leaders or referencing certain Soviet leaders who were sort of purged.
00:24:24.000And then not only were they taken away from the current lineup, but any mention of them, and there's photographs of Stalin and others that are taken away because it's so important that remember, the revolution must be perfect.
00:24:55.000So the breaking news on Twitter, which isn't Twitter news, actually news about Twitter, the company, is that Jack Dorsey, the CEO of Twitter, announced that he's going to be stepping down as CEO today.
00:25:06.000And they are appointing a longtime employee of Twitter to be a guy who's been very, I'm just going to say it, very pro-censorship.
00:25:14.000He's posted very left-wing sentiments, obviously not a Trump fan, to say the least, about Twitter for years, going back.
00:25:22.000And you can just look at his feed and see it there.
00:25:24.000And he said something where he doesn't believe, right?
00:25:27.000This is the new CEO, doesn't believe that Twitter should be interested in focusing on free speech.
00:25:33.000He says we should be focusing on the times have changed.
00:26:33.000But most importantly, though, they need to understand that the narrative is so important for them to keep because think of it, right?
00:26:42.000All of the things that we've just been talking about, if we didn't have the ability to go into the narrative, dig up facts on our own, and then also have the distribution ability to share that with people.
00:26:52.000And I understand there are other distribution channels being built, but currently they're so strong of the current ones.
00:27:00.000That's why a lot of people have said, you know, do these things look like public utilities, right?
00:27:05.000And that I think is an interesting argument.
00:27:06.000It's obviously not a traditional conservative argument, but if you look at it from a people-first perspective, it clearly does look like this is, I mean, it's where you get your news.
00:27:26.000I actually love Nextdoor because it's all the Karens in my neighborhood.
00:27:29.000So I get to see like someone that was on my lawn and, you know, somebody, but you actually get some cool stuff on there too, because somebody posts a ring video like, hey, somebody's going around the neighborhood keeping an out for this guy.
00:27:39.000So I think I actually think that stuff is great.
00:27:41.000And you're starting to see burgeoning, you know, reforming communities, things like this.
00:27:45.000So what, so speaking of memory holes and things they don't want us to talk about, what's going on with the Ghelane Maxwell trial?
00:28:21.000It's about how did he have that access to power?
00:28:24.000How did he get these presidents, these world leaders, these thinkers, these intellectuals, these financiers on his plane on the Lolita Express all the way down to his island?
00:28:47.000I do believe she should have a fair trial because I believe everyone should have a fair trial, but she will probably be convicted.
00:28:54.000And then they want the story to be memory hold.
00:28:58.000And so the Epstein thing is super interesting because anytime they call us conspiracy theorists, if I ever get a chance to talk to journalists, I say, wait a second.
00:29:06.000If you would have told me five years ago, it would be conventional.
00:29:10.000Like just like everyone would know that there was a multi, not even billionaire, let's just say rich guy flying around members of the royal family, former presidents and others to an island with underage girls.
00:29:23.000What would you say that would be four years ago?
00:29:25.000They'd say, that's a conspiracy theorist.
00:29:34.000Do you think we're going to learn anything in this trial?
00:29:36.000Honestly, I mean, we're going to cover it, Charlie, on Human Events Daily, the same way that we covered Kyle Rittenhouse, the same way we covered everything else.
00:29:43.000But honestly, my hopes are not that high.
00:29:47.000I'm setting the bar pretty low on this one because we've already been told.
00:31:56.000Internet privacy is extremely important.
00:31:59.000New news out shows that Google has been colluding with the federal government to hand over your data if you might have searched something wrong into the search bar.
00:32:10.000So what are you doing to protect your search history?
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00:32:16.000Using the internet without ExpressVPN is like going to the bathroom and not closing the door.
00:33:14.000ExpressVPN for me has been a game changer to be able to know that the tech companies or the government, they have to go through a whole nother barrier to try to spy on us.
00:33:25.000When we see with the new announcements out of DC, if you spoke at a school board meeting lately, you better get a VPN.
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00:34:14.000The polls will always ride to the defense of the West.
00:34:19.000When you are in your darkest hour, when the communists are at your door in 1920 about and the Red Army is about to take over all of Europe, it will be Poland standing in the breach.
00:35:54.000So I would have to show that to a qualified person who's worked in that field about essentially, well, the Ghislaine Maxwell kind of stuff to determine whether or not we could, I mean, essentially, you'd have to identify who the girls are and then find out birth dates and that kind of thing.
00:36:11.000I imagine would be, as Pat explained to me, is what you would do.
00:36:14.000But in addition to that, in addition to that, and there's a lot of that, there's so much of that.
00:36:22.000You have evidence of financial corruption going back years and years and years.
00:36:28.000So Hunter Biden, and you can see this throughout the emails, the texts, he's the money guy.
00:36:38.000But when they need something paid for, they go to Hunter and they say, hey, move this money from here.
00:36:43.000They were using like Venmo and Cash App and different things and just all the, you know, pay off this thing, pay off that thing, because they knew Hunter had the family money.
00:36:51.000It's actually very Irish in many ways.
00:37:22.000You were not doing drugs on the street when the KNA gang was in town.
00:37:25.000So when you move down to Newark, Delaware, and in many ways, you know, Joe Biden used to be referred to as the third Pennsylvania senator, and there's a reason for this, that he was running that same type of operation.
00:37:35.000But of course, Delaware is the state of corporate America.
00:37:38.000Every major corporation is incorporated in Delaware, and Joe Biden was their senator, the same way that Chuck Schumer is very closely tied to Wall Street.
00:37:44.000So it's, you know, that was always his power base.
00:37:47.000So you can see the money is being funneled through Hunter, through various deals and, you know, opportunities, whether it be this Bohai Harvest thing in China or Burisma in Ukraine.
00:37:59.000I mean, he's got, you know, Rosemont Seneca, all these different names and shell companies, but that's essentially what's going on.
00:38:03.000Is the federal government investigating any of this?
00:38:05.000We're told that there was an investigation opened for tax purposes.