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00:00:58.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:02:02.000I get that all the time, by the way, that Brandon Tatum and I look exactly alike.
00:02:07.000But it's kind of fun going back to some of these campuses a couple years later.
00:02:11.000And Candace, you were at LSU last night for the tide for the largest campus event ever, because this one I think ties the record, actually.
00:02:27.000But also shows there's a lot more conservatives on college campuses than they would ever admit or acknowledge.
00:02:35.000I think it's one of those things that it's always so good to plug in and do college campuses because, you know, I have my podcast and you have your radio show and you talk every day about issues and you just think, what's happening to this country?
00:02:59.000And so it's incredible to me to see that not just that there are conservatives, but there are conservatives that are proud enough to be conservatives to be seen and to say, yeah, I'm one of those people that actually likes our country, likes American principles, likes American values.
00:03:53.000There wasn't a single protest on campus, whether a Democrat or a Republican spoke.
00:03:58.000It was just, okay, if you want to go hear them speak, you can hear them speak.
00:04:01.000So so much has shifted over just 13 short years, and it's become so hostile, and it shouldn't be that way.
00:04:08.000So I do want to commend you guys if you're here to say, actually, I don't agree with these people, but I want to hear what they actually think rather than having the media spin to you what we think.
00:04:16.000Because if you've read my Wikipedia page, we just be very clear.
00:04:20.000I am not actually a homophobic, racist, sexist, misogynist, self-hating black person woman who wants puppies and pit bulls to die, which is what I think it currently says at this moment.
00:04:33.000The latest one on mine is that I hate Christians, which is very interesting.
00:04:37.000We're both self-haters, Candace, in our own way.
00:04:41.000People that are here that disagree, it's interesting and it's important because for conservatives, you have to hear things you disagree every single day when you go to class.
00:04:51.000And so it's nice for liberals to actually hear the opposing worldview.
00:04:55.000Candace, what has changed in the last couple of years as we've done these campus events?
00:05:00.000I get a sense that the trans thing is completely out of control.
00:05:03.000It was an element of our campus talks a couple years ago, but now there's a militancy, there's a tyranny behind the trans thing.
00:05:11.000And then when you were in college, you were telling a great story last night at LSU about somebody who tried to tell you to always blame men for your problems.
00:05:18.000Was the trans thing even an issue back then?
00:05:21.000I mean, there was at least a belief that, I mean, as disturbing as the story was, at least they believed there was men and women.
00:05:32.000If you got into a time machine and you went back just two decades ago in America, if you said, I am from the future and in 20 years, men will be able to be women and women will be able to be men and there will be 26,000 genders.
00:05:46.000People would have thought you were on crack cocaine.
00:05:49.000They would have probably put you on a Psych 5150 hold.
00:05:51.000The debates that we're having today are unimaginable 20 years ago.
00:05:55.000I always tell people, I missed the 90s.
00:06:03.000Family was, yeah, the nuclear family was being presented.
00:06:07.000And so wokeism has destroyed so much and it's further divided people.
00:06:12.000But some of these things, it's difficult to even comprehend that you would be selling to children an idea, such a dangerous ideology.
00:06:19.000And this is one that I'm super passionate about.
00:06:21.000I've always been passionate about, but I'm especially passionate about because I'm a mother.
00:06:26.000And to think that there is an environment right now where institutions are taking advantage of children and trying to convince them that they can attain something that is an impossibility, right?
00:06:47.000And yet kids are going on to drugs like Lupron, which are used to chemically castrate to pedophiles that are in prison.
00:06:56.000These are the same drugs to block your puberty, fundamentally transforming your entire livelihood.
00:07:02.000Because when you grow up, you just can't get that back.
00:07:04.000In fact, the criminal justice advocates have sued to stop allowing Lupron to be administered in prisons because they say it's too inhumane.
00:07:11.000But they want to give it to 12 or 13 year olds.
00:07:58.000And I thank God that I was born in a time where we were able to live in reality and not in fiction, where people are creating avatars of themselves and where people are essentially doing more and more extreme things for attention.
00:08:13.000I talked, unpacked this on my podcast, how psychiatrists were talking about seeing people that didn't actually have the disorders that they claimed to have, but they were mimicking the disorders because it gave them a sense of community online, right?
00:08:27.000They called these pseudo-disorders, right?
00:08:28.000So rather than the real thing, like years ago, you would actually have a person that suffered from gender dysphoria, which was legally, when I was growing up, we learned about it in a DSM-5 as a mental disorder.
00:08:38.000Now you're seeing kids that just think it's cool.
00:08:41.000They're watching Dylan Mulvaney on TikTok and they go, I want to identify with this community.
00:08:45.000So they're pretending to be trans because it gets them an instant community.
00:08:49.000And ultimately, what we're talking about is a spiritual emptiness, right?
00:08:53.000Kids have never, we call it social media.
00:08:55.000It's actually the most anti-social thing in the entire world to hold up your phone and talk to yourself, right?
00:09:00.000And kids are spending more and more time getting a dopamine kick from likes and they don't know.
00:09:06.000When they're done getting that like, they need to feel that high again.
00:09:11.000And so an element of that is that we have a generation of children that are addicted to the drug that social media has become that can't go back in their memory to a time when it didn't exist.
00:09:20.000And what we're seeing are symptoms of that, people that just literally want attention, need a hug, need spiritual fulfillment.
00:09:27.000And they're never, ever, ever going to get it by being more extreme by saying you're trans.
00:10:22.000Forget just Turning Point USA and conservative organizations.
00:10:24.000I don't remember whether it was the Washington Post, but it was a left-wing publication that wrote an article saying that people that put their pronouns on their resumes are not getting hired.
00:11:53.000And yet they have so much power to go around to call people bigots and to call people transphobes because we can obviously, we have two eyes.
00:12:37.000I shouldn't even really, it boggles my mind to sit back into reflecting and think that I even have a platform because I haven't said anything like, this isn't Einstein breaking to say, all I said was, oh, black people don't have to be Democrats.
00:12:50.000And they were like, ah, the whole world just crumbled.
00:12:54.000And they were like, how dare she say something?
00:12:57.000It's the simple truth that drives them the most crazy.
00:13:00.000It's because they live in abstractions.
00:13:03.000They can't actually ever say something that the plumber, the electrician, the police officer, the firefighter, the person that didn't go to Harvard can understand.
00:13:11.000They have to say, well, you know, according to postmodern theory and the book by Herbert Mark who's like, actually, yeah, you're a racist and a bigot.
00:13:37.000It took me basically two months to organize my pantry.
00:13:41.000And then I found out on, because a professor, professor from Loyola University, wrote an article explaining that actually if you aspire to organize your closets, it's because you are inherently racist and you don't understand that these social constructs.
00:13:53.000I mean, how much school do you have to have to be that stupid?
00:13:57.000How many years of school does it take to be that stupid?
00:14:26.000He's super rich because he goes around.
00:14:28.000By the way, this is how you know, for those of you that disagree tonight, here's how you know there's probably something to what Candace and I believe.
00:14:34.000If you disagree, we'll allow you to the front of the line.
00:14:36.000You can say whatever you want, ask any question.
00:14:38.00099% of people on the left will never have an open mic at their event because they're afraid of getting cross-examined by somebody that might make them look bad.
00:15:34.000They've never actually had to define the very word that they're restructuring society around because here's why.
00:15:40.000If he gave the actual definition of racism, which is one person being bigoted or prejudiced to another person, he would have defined himself.
00:15:46.000He would have all of a sudden self-identified as a bigot.
00:16:45.000It's in affirmative action, college admissions hiring practice.
00:16:47.000Robin D'Angelo, who wrote White Fragility, which I hope none of you ever have to read in college, she came out the other day and she said, Yeah, it's time for black people to separate themselves from white people.
00:17:15.000If you're wondering where every bad societal idea comes from, it's the academia.
00:17:20.000It's why I advise: if you are in school, take time to learn and to read the works of Thomas Sowell, who quite literally did one of the most brilliant things ever.
00:17:31.000He attended Columbia University to receive his master's, and then he went on to get his PhD from Harvard.
00:17:38.000And the reason why he went to these schools, he writes in his book, he says, I went to these schools so that I can look people in the eye that went to these schools and say, you know nothing, right?
00:18:02.000Madison Grant, Columbian Yale graduate, who wrote what was the most successful book at that time in the progressive era, The Passing of the Great Race.
00:18:10.000It was quite literally an argument that minorities should not procreate, that the Nordic race needed to be protected.
00:18:15.000It was an argument that people that lived in southern and eastern Europe that were coming over at the time, the immigrants, were going to dumb down the supreme white race.
00:18:24.000This book was read by and it was hailed as a Bible by Adolf Hitler.
00:18:28.000It was the progressives and the university professors in America that inspired Adolf Hitler.
00:18:33.000They don't want you to know this because the best part about being an academic is never having to say you're wrong.
00:18:37.000They were the ones that were writing about all these crazy COVID policies.
00:19:04.000Literally, people that are less successful than us, that are older than us, okay, would look at us and say, well, you don't have a degree, so I shouldn't have to listen to you.
00:19:13.000Okay, well, you don't have any success, so why the hell should I have to listen to you?
00:19:34.000What really happens when you look at the world right now in America, and this is a fact.
00:19:38.000We have never produced students that have graduated with lower IQs.
00:19:42.000It is a fact that since the establishment of the Department of Education, the collective IQ is going down in America, okay?
00:19:48.000So they federalize the education system, and we're getting dumber and dumber and dumber.
00:19:51.000If you go back and you reread the writings of people that had no formal education and were Civil War soldiers, read what they wrote to their parents, it's like poetry.
00:20:02.000The way that they describe what they're seeing when they're writing letters back home, no average American can write like that.
00:20:08.000I would be challenged to write like that.
00:20:43.000You get out into the real world, and what happens is you realize that nobody in the history of the world anywhere at any time ever said, quick, get me a gender studies major.
00:20:56.000I really need a gender studies major to help me in this prediction.
00:21:10.000And then they turn around and they meet these kids that didn't go to college, right?
00:21:13.000That didn't acquire any debt, that jumped right into the workforce, that have real skills and can work with their hands.
00:21:18.000And they realize, hey, wait a second, Johnny that I went to high school with and has no debt is now running a business where he fixes ACs and he's cleaning up and he's making millions a year.
00:21:28.000Because let me tell you, everybody at some point in their life, especially if they live in the South, has said, please, for the love of God, in the summertime, I will pay you anything to fix my air conditioner, right?
00:21:39.000And then that person who graduated becomes bitter and angry because how on earth could someone like Candace Owens and Charlie Kirk who didn't go and get a degree from whatever university you think is so sparkling?
00:21:49.000I went to an Ivy League school, says Sam Harris.
00:21:52.000How could Candace Owens and Charlie Kirk get something right and not me?
00:22:21.000The people that come up with those ideas are dangerous academics who realize that everything that they think they know does not apply when it comes to the free markets.
00:22:29.000I just wanted to let you guys know that.
00:22:32.000The entire progressive movement was started by a council of academics.
00:22:36.000Woodrow Wilson was a college president of Princeton University and then became governor of New Jersey and then president in 1912.
00:22:42.000And he really started this kind of progressive era where he was the first American president where he said the American founders got it wrong.
00:23:00.000And that's something that is laced in your education here that academics push, which is that now we're in the modern era.
00:23:08.000We no longer need the thinkers, the traditions, the patterns, or the customs of what came before.
00:23:13.000And if you look very carefully in your class, you'll pick up on this now.
00:23:16.000There's kind of an there's an embedded bias towards modernity.
00:23:20.000Basically like, well, we have Twitter, we have airplanes, we have Advil, therefore we're smarter than Thomas Jefferson.
00:23:28.000I think people put way too much trust in progress, way too much trust.
00:23:33.000And in fact, I think human beings don't change regardless of the technology around us.
00:23:39.000In fact, it actually makes our broken nature more likely to screw up.
00:23:43.000Technology is an amplifier on our broken nature.
00:23:46.000In fact, if we raise bad people that are devoid of wisdom and we give them super weapons called smartphones and they don't know why they're on this earth or their purpose or their meaning, then they're going to be the most suicidal generation in history, which is exactly what's happening right now.
00:24:01.000And so this has happened for a variety of reasons.
00:24:04.000One of the things we stand for as conservatives, if there's just one thing you remember I say tonight, it's that we probably have a lot to learn from the last 2,000 years of history and radically redefining it, swooping in with tyrannical force, with godlike authority to try to remake man and woman, to try to have war on nature, as if we have figured it out in 2023 is not just prideful.
00:24:26.000It's stupid and it's dangerous and it's driven by academics, by academics that have never lived in the real world, people that have PhDs and wrote dissertations and they could not fix a sink if their life depended on it.
00:24:39.000And these are the people that are screwing up our entire society.
00:24:46.000One of the things that I've been trying to do is to go backwards because I realize how just a few short generations ago, how much they knew, how much my grandparents knew.
00:25:55.000Would you be able to grow your own food?
00:25:57.000If the answer is no, I'm going to shock you by telling you that you are in fact also on welfare because food does not grow in a grocery store.
00:26:04.000I have completely transformed my life.
00:26:06.000I want to be like the people that when I was raced and when I was coming up in school, I was told they know nothing.
00:26:12.000If you think, and I call that woman Grandma Helen because she's been such a gift to me in helping me to learn everything and to be able to work with my hands, if you think people like Sam Harris and people that write for the Huffington Post know more than Grandma Helen in Tennessee, you are confused.
00:26:26.000Those people know everything, know what's in your backyard.
00:26:30.000Well, and we're in the perfect place for this conversation, Candace, because this state, the state of Ohio, is really, I think, the heartbeat of the muscular class in America.
00:26:41.000These are the folks that work at their hands.
00:26:44.000This was once the industrial base of America, but there's a lot of people in touch with the land here, massive agrarian base, you know, agricultural, really an agricultural beast for the world.
00:26:57.000And this state for, I mean that in a positive way, and this state for many decades, though, was the victim of snooty, elitist, scoffing, coastal, bipartisan neoliberalism, which is we're going to open up our borders.
00:27:16.000We're going to send jobs overseas, and we don't care about East Palestine, Ohio.
00:27:22.000And for a while, it seemed like a good idea.
00:27:24.000Wow, look at all this cheap products we get from China.
00:27:27.000But I think in Ohio, one of the reasons why this state has recalibrated itself in a more conservative America-first direction is that you realize that, okay, fine, our homes are twice as big as they were in the 1950s, but they're also twice as empty because we're having less kids.
00:27:43.000And our garages are full of plastic from China that we don't care about.
00:27:51.000And more people are on opioids than ever before.
00:27:54.000And the people who told us this is a good deal, like Mitt Romney came in, and he's wealthier than ever.
00:27:59.000And southeastern Ohio is basically obliterated.
00:28:03.000But then we're told by the academics, just keep on supporting neoliberalism, keep on sending money to Ukraine, keep on keeping the borders open, and then somehow your life will get happier and better.
00:28:13.000And the people of Ohio the last couple of years have made an amazing, courageous correction, I think, not just politically, but also that correction, but they've also realized that neoliberalism has destroyed the soul of Ohio.
00:28:26.000That this open border, massive invade the world, invite the world, import a bunch of foreign products, and it was brought forth by academics that always had contempt for them.
00:28:38.000And that's, it's a thread that I always try to make people realize is a lot of times you can think that what the left is doing is outrageous.
00:28:47.000And a good friend and mentor of mine, Dennis Prager, who was so wonderful and so brilliant, I remember asking him in earnest years ago, sitting across from him, what are they doing?
00:28:54.000I don't, one day they're screaming at bathroom signs.
00:28:57.000One day they're marching out of school protesting climate change.
00:29:36.000All of those initiatives, teaching people to mutilate their bodies, telling people to pursue same-sex couples and same-sex marriages, putting children on drugs that are irreversible.
00:29:46.000Those people are not going to grow up and to be able to have productive nuclear families.
00:29:49.000When you look at the climate job, the climate change lobby, what they are encouraging children in classrooms is saying that it would be irresponsible for you to grow up and start a family.
00:29:58.000Notoriously, Megan and Harry received an award for agreeing to only have two kids.
00:30:03.000It's about the shrinking of family, telling them it's the responsible, the eco-friendly thing to do to either not have a family altogether or to limit how big of a family that you actually have.
00:30:12.000You look at transgenderism, of course, we touched upon that.
00:30:15.000Every single topic up a left is after feminism, telling women to act like men, not to be at home, to climb the corporate ladder, telling men to act like women.
00:30:25.000And then you start to recast it and you realize, of course, because the thing that stands between the government and complete and utter omnipotence is family, right?
00:30:34.000If you are the government and you want to be the God and the family in people's life, then there can be no God.
00:30:51.000Denigrate women by telling them that you're empowering women, right?
00:30:55.000Break down the family structure and break down religion.
00:31:00.000And then you will become the new religion.
00:31:02.000And the biggest example of that for me, and I still am traumatized for what I saw during COVID, people on their hands and knees begging the government to deliver them one more day.
00:31:11.000It was an experiment, a human experiment, and we failed.
00:31:25.000And I was against the lockdowns from the beginning, and I was attacked from every possible direction.
00:31:30.000The lockdowns will go down as one of the worst mistakes in human history.
00:31:34.000But academics said that it was going to be great.
00:31:36.000Though that goes to the core point right here before we do some questions, which I hope an academic will ask a question, which is the experts.
00:31:54.000Dr. Anthony Fauci did more damage to Generation Z than almost any person.
00:32:02.000That man should be in prison for the rest of his life.
00:32:12.000Forcing a gene-altering shot on a generation that is not at a significant risk at all from dying from this virus and kicking kids out of school and kicking them out of the military, it's unconscionable.
00:32:25.000And not to mention, I mean, I knew we had a problem with modernity when I was driving through Phoenix and I saw people alone in their car wearing masks as if they were going to get COVID through the radio.
00:32:40.000And people, you know, it's really amazing.
00:32:43.000I mean, I was at the airport the other day.
00:33:18.000And it's why they're so unhappy and why unhappiness is like spreading throughout the country.
00:33:23.000But I will say this as a reverse, we did fail the test, but despite all the coercion, Candace, despite all the subsidizing, despite all this, 37 million Americans still resisted taking the shot.
00:33:52.000I know that sometimes it seems like it's all doom and gloom, but when we see events like this, I'm telling you, it makes me feel elated to really understand that there is a cultural shift happening.
00:34:00.000And you can tell because the left has never been more angry.
00:34:03.000And that lets you know that they're losing control of the narrative, the narrative that so many of us believed, you know, celebrating celebrities, believing in Hollywood culture, wanting to be just like them.
00:34:13.000And now we resent them and we realize that the real celebs are in your own household.
00:34:17.000The real celebs are the fathers that lead their families, the women that raise their children.
00:34:25.000They have never controlled more, and they've never been unhappier.
00:34:31.000They've never had more institutional control and they've never been more paranoid.
00:34:35.000If their victory was inevitable, their propaganda would not be necessary.
00:34:54.000If we wanted heckling and disruption, we'd be outside like the apparatch with their flag screaming into the sky.
00:35:02.000Second thing I want to say is, guys, please try to keep your questions down to like 10 to 15 seconds because we want to get to as many as possible.
00:35:09.000And sometimes people just completely go on a little speech here.
00:35:13.000And not that we don't want to hear everything that you want to say, but we want to get to as many people as possible.
00:35:31.000What advice would you give to students who feel like their voice or free expression are being oppressed by university administrations or DEI programs?
00:35:46.000I literally sell shirts that say proud Karen because I think we need to bring back shaming people.
00:35:52.000One of the things that the institutions hate is exposure.
00:35:55.000They hate people finding out about what they're doing, and it makes them super embarrassing.
00:35:59.000You just saw this at Stanford University where they acted like animals when that federal judge came and was invited to speak and wasn't allowed to share a single word.
00:36:07.000So I would say fight them in a constructive way.
00:36:10.000Make sure that you report these individuals, that you keep a law of these individuals, network with other people, tag us, tag Turning Point USA so that we can bring these stories to the storefront, to the forefront because the public needs to know and they hate what they absolutely hate is attention on the things that they're doing that are discriminatory to students like you.
00:36:27.000And I want to just single out you and all of our great leaders.
00:36:33.000Our Turning Point USA students here deserve a lot of credit for what they have to go through and their leadership.
00:36:38.000And if you are not currently or actively involved in this chapter at Ohio State, start to get involved.
00:37:02.000You are in the minority against the administration.
00:37:05.000But I will say this, and I say it factually, that from the security here and having this event, Ohio State University has been a lot better to work with than most of the other schools we've had to deal with in the last couple weeks.
00:37:28.000I also want to thank you so much for coming here and being able to speak to so many students and people and general admissions and things like that.
00:37:36.000And my question is, I definitely agree with the part of simple living and how important it is.
00:37:41.000But as college students who are kind of involved in anything but that and living in that kind of community where it's anything but civil, simple living.
00:37:51.000How, what first steps would you recommend students who want to kind of take that approach as their lifestyle?
00:37:58.000What are like the first steps to that?
00:38:02.000The first thing I would say is to start following people.
00:38:09.000She's one person that I think is amazing, left the city and is pursuing a much more simple life.
00:38:13.000The second thing that I would say is I joke when I say an apocalyptic mindset, but I don't really joke when I say that, which is to say, what could you do to support yourself?
00:38:21.000Get involved in activities outside of the university that make you learn to grow your own food, make you learn to work with your hands, make you understand that plants are medicine, not filling in a prescription over at CVS.
00:38:32.000You know, I don't give my kids medicine.
00:38:34.000I'm literally a grandma from the 1940s.
00:39:03.000If you are here tonight and you are suffering from anxiety, depression, before you take antidepressant medication, try doing the one thing God told you to keep you happy and joyful.
00:39:24.000No technology, no TV, no social media.
00:39:27.000You will be a happier person, I guarantee.
00:39:35.000So earlier, y'all were making a lot of good points about the transgenderism problem about how that's just so out of touch with reality.
00:39:43.000So my question, my, and then coming into this, I was thinking that's like an important thing we talk about right now, but I think 10, 15 years ago, you could have applied that same thing to gay marriage, to birth control.
00:39:53.000Those things were just not as prevalent as they used to be.
00:39:55.000So my question for you is, would you treat those things that have contributed to the sexual degeneracy of our colleges, especially fraternities and things like that?
00:40:04.000Would you treat homosexuality, birth control, et cetera, with the same severity that you treat transgenderism?
00:40:12.000When you say treat, do you mean talking about it?
00:40:15.000Yeah, talking about it, acknowledging it.
00:40:16.000Yeah, I mean, if anybody follows me, you guys already know what my stance is.
00:40:20.000First off, on Big Pharma, you're talking about birth control, the culture of sex, and all the things that women are programmed to believe from a time that we're in high school.
00:40:29.000I talked about Thomas Soule making people believe that everybody was having sex in high school.
00:40:32.000That was actually a planned parenthood push to get into the classrooms.
00:40:35.000The majority of people were actually graduating with their virginity before the 1970s.
00:40:39.000And the Department of Education pushed to make people think that sex was normal and partying and all those things were normal.
00:40:44.000I speak a lot about abstaining from partying.
00:40:46.000I know it's not, it seems totally unattainable.
00:40:49.000And I definitely didn't do it when I was in school, but I talk about the culture of drinking on my podcast.
00:40:54.000Obviously, we are both Christians, and you are correct that there is an element of, which also explains even how the rates, once we started culturally accepting being gay, that there was this explosion, which is the social contagion element that we're talking about, where people are like, well, I just want to experiment with doing this.
00:41:10.000And the whole idea of being born gay, well, you can now show that there is a social contagion element because when you go and you look at other places around the world, it's not the same circumstance.
00:41:19.000So America is fostering these ideas and people are making these decisions.
00:41:22.000These aren't people that are, these are, they believe that they're their own ideas.
00:41:25.000They believe that it is who they are, but in reality, they're victims of propaganda.
00:41:28.000And hopefully, I definitely forcefully talk about all of those topics on my podcast.
00:42:16.000This question is directed to Mr. Kirk.
00:42:18.000In the Gospel of St. Matthew, our Lord says, but he that shall scandalize one of these little ones that believeth in me, it were better for him that a millstone should be hanged about his neck and that he should be drowned in the depth of the sea.
00:42:31.000So here our Lord is talking about moral actions inclusive of speech that is contrary to Christian morality and the gospel.
00:42:39.000And he says it ought to be punished and at minimum assigned a social penalty.
00:42:44.000So we look out today and our society is being degenerated.
00:42:48.000We're seeing transgenderism, homosexuality, feminism, and other various social evils being promoted.
00:42:56.000Yet conservatives continually promote this idea of free speech, which is directly allowing these things to flourish and is actually normalizing them.
00:43:05.000So my question is, as someone that takes the Bible very seriously like yourself, why do you not believe the words of our Lord?
00:43:41.000There's a balance between expression, speech, petition against the government, and something that is obviously not speech.
00:43:49.000So, this is where I'm more in the Saurabh Amari camp and not the David French camp.
00:43:53.000I don't think being able to rent out a library to do predatory sexual behavior to children should be constitutionally protected speech.
00:44:01.000The founding fathers did not have in mind, boy, we need a robust First Amendment so that a bunch of groomers can get in front of eight-year-olds.
00:44:11.000With that being said, we have to be obviously careful because when you start to overly police types of political speech against institutions or organizations, that is what the First Amendment is before.
00:44:23.000The First Amendment allows you to complain, it allows you to challenge, it allows you to be able to organize people.
00:44:29.000And I could say that the only reason I'm allowed to speak at University of California, Davis, is they were afraid I was going to sue them under First Amendment practices.
00:44:37.000Where I will find agreement, because you cited one of the many times Jesus says in the New Testament about the harsh punishment of going after children, is that any conservative that uses the First Amendment flippantly while children are being abused and groomed, they have no place in the conservative movement whatsoever.
00:44:57.000And so, I just encourage, I'll close with that.
00:45:06.000What do you think of the Tennessee bill that allows clerks to refuse marriage license based on personal beliefs, particularly gay or interracial marriages?
00:45:15.000It seems to be a clear method of forcing personal beliefs on relationships that one doesn't agree with, especially non-traditional ones.
00:45:22.000I'm sorry, did you say the Tennessee law that?
00:45:24.000Yeah, Tennessee law, it allows clerks to refuse issuing marriage license based on personal or religious beliefs.
00:45:31.000I actually am not familiar with that bill at all.
00:45:33.000And so, I would love to respond to your question, but I always say is never, I never make a habit of responding to something that I don't have in front of me and I haven't read because that's how you always get yourself into trouble.
00:45:43.000So, you're characterizing elements of it.
00:45:44.000It could be longer, it could mean something else.
00:45:47.000And I genuinely have not read it, so I'm not going to be able to answer that question.
00:47:11.000They don't care about the people of East Palestine at all.
00:47:14.000But I wouldn't blame the Trump administration.
00:47:15.000The specific regulation they passed actually didn't pertain to that.
00:47:18.000But look, I mean, there's a reason why, and this should make everyone think deeply, why are your leaders that you send to D.C., except for JD Vance, who's terrific, by the way, why are your leaders so enthusiastic and so vocal and so heated about making sure Zelensky has his money and not the people of East Palestine, Ohio?
00:47:43.000When we say America first, we mean it.
00:47:46.000We mean that if water is getting poisoned or citizens have their air quality put in jeopardy, that should take a higher priority than the needs, wants, and ambitions of a border dispute 5,000 miles away.
00:48:06.000And the answer to your question, Charlie, is because they have to launder the money back to themselves.
00:48:09.000When you send it overseas, it's easier to launder back to yourselves.
00:48:13.000It is atrocious, and you won't get an argument about us from the perspective that virtually everything the federal government touches turns to trash.
00:48:22.000This is why we want to shrink government.
00:49:01.000I said, how can we relativize a love for America when we have a long history of being anti-democratic overseas, being involved in coups in Chile, Guatemala that have been supported by both Democratic and Republican institutions?
00:49:23.000He said, how can we maintain love for America because of our anti-democratic foreign policy, in particular supporting coups in Chile, Latin America, around the world?
00:49:35.000I think this kind of ties back into the last answer that we just gave because that does not represent America.
00:49:40.000That represents crooked politicians that are in D.C. that has us in endless wars, staging coups, the color revolution that we staged in Ukraine, which is absolutely what happened.
00:49:50.000We staged a color revolution in Ukraine to insert Zelensky because politicians are corrupt in D.C.
00:49:56.000And it is very difficult for people to differentiate what we're talking about here.
00:50:00.000Something has gone terribly wrong in America.
00:50:06.000Something happened with these globalist initiatives, them recognizing sometime after 9-11 that they keep us in endless wars and keep sending trillions of dollars, sending our sons and daughters to go overseas.
00:50:16.000When I criticize this, we are not at all criticizing the people that went overseas and believed in our country and believed in our values and never could have fathomed that our government could be this crooked, this awful, this backwards, and doing this all for profit.
00:52:23.000What she's doing is she's fighting for government to grow until it becomes so insurmountable that you are rendered powerless and the individual is rendered powerless.
00:52:29.000That's what socialism actually is, not what it's billed as.
00:52:33.000But thank you so much for your question.
00:52:49.000Charlie brought up the point of neoliberalism and its impact in Ohio, particularly with the issue of you pointed out immigration as one of the most one of the more prominent consequences of neoliberalism and the reforms that happened in the time period, let's say around 1990s, 2000s.
00:53:13.000Bill Clinton signing in the National Immigration Act in 91.
00:53:16.000But I would say one aspect that I believe that you're missing in neoliberalism, which is fundamental to neoliberalism, is deregulation.
00:53:24.000Deregulation to multinationals, deregulation in labor protection and protections under conditions of the workers, and the extraction of resources in the third world, because most of these companies, because of these neoliberal policies, went overseas.
00:53:46.000They went to mostly the third world in China and Mexico.
00:53:50.000And yet what we see here is not an exact critique of that from the conservative viewpoint because you guys put a lot of emphasis on deregulation and a lot of support towards it, despite the fact that is what's elemental to neoliberalism and the developments that happened in the last 30 years.
00:54:11.000So my question would be, from the conservative standpoint, does there have to be a reassessment of how to approach deregulation from a conservative and a capitalist perspective?
00:54:27.000Yeah, so actually, I see it differently.
00:54:29.000I think that some of our dumb regulation actually encouraged our companies to go overseas, is that we regulated our small and medium-sized businesses so heavily that when Deloitte showed up and they said, hey, I can make this trinket in mainland China for pennies on a dollar.
00:54:45.000And meanwhile, they have to fight the EPA, the Employment Prevention Agency, and they have to fight the IRS and they have to fight all these different government agencies.
00:54:54.000The Leviathan, the fourth branch of government, the bureaucracy, basically made the business owners' decision easier to go overseas.
00:55:39.000But generally, in the last 20 or 30 years, I think that we threw too much government power, too much government scrutiny, too many audits at our entrepreneurs, our small businesses that actually made re-domiciling and offshoring our jobs too easy.
00:56:00.000So my question is, you guys were discussing blue-collar workers and how they have a lot of wisdom, which I certainly agree with.
00:56:06.000I'm sure they do have a lot of wisdom.
00:56:08.000However, your guys' perspective more so sounded like they essentially have more wisdom or more knowledge than someone in academia.
00:56:16.000And my question is, why do you guys believe that blue-collar workers and people in these laborist jobs have more knowledge than someone in academia?
00:56:30.000So I guess I would say, rather than saying wisdom, I would say that they have more real-world value and currency than somebody who's writing papers trying to transform the world from a classroom.
00:56:44.000I believe that there is more value in learning to work with your hands.
00:56:47.000There's more value in learning how to raise productive human beings.
00:56:50.000I hate the fact that women are being sold a bill of lies and being told that we should be competing with men and wanting to run executives of Fortune 500 companies.
00:56:59.000I believe that we absolutely flourish in our feminine roles and that the toughest job in the world is being a stay-at-home mom and raising good children.
00:57:08.000So to me, when we shifted those values and we stopped realizing that these people actually have the most value in society, we watched our social decline begin.
00:57:21.000And we have essentially been within a managed social decline for the last 60 years, in my opinion.
00:58:11.000Wisdom is the knowledge of things that will be true 200 years from now, and they were true 500 years before, because you're dealing with the same raw material.
00:58:44.000My question is: with our founding fathers being lawyers and educated men, is their academia and ideologies just as destructive as those you've discussed?
00:58:53.000Furthermore, what about Herodotus, Socrates, and Aristotle?
00:58:56.000Well, no, they were classically educated.
00:59:45.000Socrates invented the classical dialogue and the idea of the pursuit of truth.
00:59:49.000Classical education believes in three things: goodness, beauty, and virtue.
00:59:53.000There's something high, and we should aim for it.
00:59:56.000That we have a soul, that there's an eternal component to our existence that is more than material matter, and that we as a human being, it's going to take work and effort, but we can aim high, point high, and we can be better tomorrow than we are today.
01:00:07.000The educational manifesto today is opposite.
01:00:10.000They say you're nothing more than a combination of chemicals and matter that have accidentally combusted into where you are today through a Darwinian process, and there is no beauty, there is no goodness, there is no virtue, there is no truth.
01:00:21.000The founding fathers were proper academics.
01:00:24.000The ones today are charlatans disguised as academics.
01:00:34.000I'm never sorry in front of two future U.S. presidents, but I wanted to ask and hear both your opponent's views, especially towards Candace, but you know how they pushed the sexual liberation agenda?
01:00:53.000What's your take on a young lady who got pregnant and the man who got her pregnant tells her to abort the baby because he doesn't care for the kid and doesn't know what to be in that kid's life?
01:01:00.000She has no family, no help, and she wants to focus on school in her career.
01:01:04.000Is it best for her to get rid of the kid or focus on herself and having a family later down the road?
01:01:08.000Because if she has that kid, that child's going to be a burden upon her.
01:01:38.000It's such a scary thing to me to think.
01:01:43.000And actually, who was it that said, I think it was Ronald Reagan, you know, everybody who argues for abortion has already been born, right?
01:01:50.000Which the many examples, and this is what is so problematic about the argument of people that are pro-choice, is that it ignores all of the people that grew up in broken homes and made something of themselves, people who were adopted, people that grew up in group homes, what they were able to contribute to society.
01:02:05.000It basically says the argument that unless your life is rosy, unless you have a rosy start, then you don't have a right to life and your life is not worth living.
01:02:13.000And that could not be more wrong and more backwards.
01:02:18.000I especially, you guys obviously know a lot about my upbringing.
01:02:21.000Like my story is one that I hope serves as an example when people read it of what can happen when you triumph your idea, this idea of victimhood, when you realize that you're not a victim and that you are always in the driver's seat of your own life and you can be a victor.
01:02:34.000Everybody, by the way, has terrible things that happen in their lives.
01:02:37.000Don't believe that because you see somebody and they grew up and they're super wealthy that they don't have issues or people that actually, I personally find that the wealthiest kids are the most effed up personally with life, right?
01:02:48.000And for people to not even have the opportunity to try because somebody has sentenced them to death and said, your life is not worth living because you don't have a father that loves you or a mother that wants you, it deeply saddens me.
01:03:03.000It is so antithetical to everything that we believe as conservatives.
01:03:06.000If you meet a conservative that says, well, I'm a little flimsy on the life stuff, they don't know what it means to be a conservative.
01:03:12.000Fundamentally, at our core, is that we believe in life, right?
01:03:15.000We believe in life and the right to life.
01:03:18.000And so, absolutely, in every scenario, I would choose life over and over again.
01:03:23.000And let me tell you, just as someone who has had a child, your life begins.
01:03:27.000If you think in a moment while you're pregnant that it may be a burden and you may be fearful, when you have that child, you will realize that life begins when you become a mother or a father.
01:03:38.000It is the most beautiful, wonderful chapter of anybody's life, no matter how difficult it may be.
01:03:44.000I do not believe there's a thing as an unwanted child in America.
01:03:48.000There's a million abortions in America every single year, about 3,000 a day.
01:03:51.000And there's twice as many people than that on the adoption waiting list.
01:03:56.000So, if every single person who had an abortion had that baby and put them up for adoption, they could all be put up and adopted twice over in America.
01:04:03.000There's no such thing as an unwanted child in America.
01:05:05.000You think that we should be recycling millions of dollars and having millions of dollars disappear into thin air so that we can say, ooh, look, Vladimir Putin is embarrassed.
01:05:12.000And if by embarrassed, you mean shaking hands with Xi Xinping, talking about how things are going to change and that the next 100 years are not going to look like the last 100 years, then you are not paying attention to what is going on.
01:05:24.000We have just pushed Vladimir Putin into the arms of China, right?
01:05:31.000One of our greatest, the greatest competitors that we possibly have is China.
01:05:34.000They're shaking hands, they're openly mocking the West.
01:05:37.000This has never happened before, right?
01:05:39.000They think the West is a joke, and why shouldn't they?
01:05:42.000Look at us, we're having debates about gender.
01:06:24.000What's embarrassing is China then flying immediately after we magically evacuate and meeting with the Taliban and immediately recognizing them as a government.
01:06:32.000We had daughters and our sons that died.
01:08:46.000This is not about running an article in CNN and Washington Post saying, oh, look, we embarrassed.
01:08:50.000You need to study the map of the pipelines and understand exactly what he is talking about when he is saying the threat of an alliance between Russia and China.
01:08:58.000They don't care about some points on the board saying, oh, look, it's so serious.
01:09:02.000We are in such a severe state right now.
01:09:04.000When I say it is managed social decline, managed political decline, we are no longer being taken seriously on the world stage.
01:09:11.000When I watched, I think it was Russia Today, a clip that my executive producers pulled of them openly laughing and mocking the American military.
01:09:20.000Unfathomable, even four years ago when Trump was in office.
01:10:07.000Haven't really went to an event like this in general.
01:10:10.000I get the point that you're not really well liked specifically with the black community.
01:10:15.000But one thing I wanted to, one thing I wanted to address was growing up socially, a lot of black people around me at least were conservative.
01:10:39.000Black America has faced a full cultural decline before everybody else.
01:10:42.000I actually believe that the government experimented first with black Americans, LBJ and the Great Society Act, to see how they could completely annihilate, obliterate the black family, and make the black family worship not God.
01:10:54.000We used to be at the center of all families in America and is no longer at, but worship government and more governance.
01:11:00.000Welfarism destroyed black America and it created the toxic culture that we see today.
01:11:04.000Every single ill that black America is facing.
01:11:06.000They are facing because we went from a 22% single motherhood rate back in 1964 to today, the single motherhood rate being 73%.
01:11:16.00073, more than 73% of black Americans are growing up without a father in the home.
01:11:21.000So you could just imagine what that does when I say that every social ill follows, the incarceration rates, the incriminality rates.
01:11:28.000And what happens, by the way, is that when you remove that family unit, it's not like they just go, okay, no family.
01:11:34.000It becomes an empty space and they fill that void with something else.
01:11:37.000And that's something else for Black America has been a toxic culture.
01:11:40.000They turn to rappers, they turn to the streets, they pursue that paternity and that maternity elsewhere.
01:11:46.000And this is the huge epidemic that we're facing today.
01:11:49.000It is the reason why they believe that they have to be Democrats is because Hollywood insists upon being a Democrat.
01:11:56.000Now I want to be an open conservative in Hollywood.
01:11:58.000Well, if Hollywood and what's on the TV is raising you, then that's the only option you've ever been presented with.
01:12:03.000You couple that with the other pillar, which is the education system, also decisively Democrat, decisively left-leaning, specifically because their initiative is to further marry you to government.
01:12:14.000The Department of Education was created in the 1970s and with the explicit goal to make sure that people that are growing up under the Department of Education, all of us, believe that governance can deliver us from everything and it's working.
01:12:27.000So they destroyed the family, they attacked culture, and then they went toward the educational pillar.
01:12:34.000And that is the predicament that you see across black Americans.
01:12:37.000I try to fight all of those pillars in every single capacity.
01:12:40.000And the easiest way to fight the cultural one is to simply say on a stage every single day that black people don't have to be Democrats.
01:13:06.000I'm coming to you as a wife, an entrepreneur, but mostly important, and most importantly, a mother.
01:13:12.000My younger elementary school son came back from school last year about a book that he read in the public library about how a boy could be a girl, like a colorful child book.
01:13:23.000And I'm getting emotional over it because as a mother, how do you combat this?
01:13:28.000Or how do you look at your son and explain to him these huge moments when your six-year-old and five-year-old is looking at you asking all these questions like mother to mother?
01:13:39.000I guess I'm just coming for advice at this point.
01:13:42.000Well, mother to mother, I can't wait till my child is of the school age because I'm going to raise hell.
01:13:48.000I hear these things and I get excited.
01:13:51.000I get excited when I hear these things.
01:13:57.000When I say that I'm a mother bear, try it on my kids.
01:13:59.000If you want to watch me breathe actual fire from my mouth, try it on my kids.
01:14:05.000And that is the attitude that every single mother needs to have.
01:14:08.000We need to adopt the attitude of recognizing this was ever intentional by design to remove parents, remove mothers from being the CEO of their homes, transferring them to the workforce so that the government, the Department of Education, could raise your children and indoctrinate them.
01:14:21.000The only way that you're going to reverse that is to fight it head on.
01:14:57.000So I'll be like, actually, his sister likes to golf.
01:15:00.000We need to employ those skills of uniquely set up skills that women have, and we need to give them to our children, and we need to use them to exercise dominion over our children.
01:15:10.000We're fighting right now a custody battle over our children with the state every single day.
01:15:59.000I always make liberals' heads explode.
01:16:01.000I always, and I'm about to make conservatives' heads explode because I'm a gay Christian, you know, and I'd love to debate you guys one day about that.
01:16:09.000But why I can never be a liberal is because I can never support a socialist and Marxist agenda that's happening in our country.
01:16:17.000And so, my question is, looking upon the midterms, looking upon, you know, Republicans should have really steamrolled Sleepy Joe and his horrible agenda.
01:16:29.000So, in your guys' opinion, I would like to say, how do you think Republicans and conservatives should message to a younger base, younger voters, and try to show them the evils of what socialism and Marxism truly is?
01:18:11.000It's clear that the messaging from the Republican base is not working, especially with young voters.
01:18:16.000How can they do that to change it around?
01:18:19.000Yeah, and so not to answer it politically, because we want to try to stay away from just R versus D stuff, but more generally this.
01:18:25.000Look, young people need to be given a promise by three things from their leaders, okay?
01:18:29.000Make it easier to get married, have kids, and buy property.
01:18:31.000Those three things are currently out of grasp for most young people in America.
01:18:36.000Conservatives running for office, conservatives in public life should say the new social contract is very simple.
01:18:41.000We want to be able to make it not just easy, but popular to get married, easy to have children, and we want everyone to be able to own a home the same way your parents did.
01:18:48.000That is out of grasp, and it's creating revolutionaries.
01:18:59.000Think that the more we lean into these issues, the more that we actually push back against the left, the more we're going to win people over.
01:19:06.000I think that it's people that run for the hills and are afraid to engage on the trans issue and the abortion issue and the border issue.
01:19:12.000I think people want clarity, not pandering.
01:19:17.000And we need also to have candidates that run for office that understand how to communicate these issues and these values and these ideas.
01:19:24.000And finally, I think it's pretty popular with younger voters to say that we're going to put you first, not the needs, wants, or interests of foreign citizens coming in to come take your jobs or send money overseas to Ukraine.
01:19:44.000I've been listening to you and Ben Shapiro specifically for at least three years, and you guys have inspired me and just really enlightened me about a lot of things.
01:20:21.000You know, we get tons of requests, and people are always like, oh, there needs to be a turning point president in high school.
01:20:25.000There can't be a turning point presence really fully in high school or Blexit president in high school because high schools, unfortunately, minors are in high school.
01:20:33.000Which brings me to the answer to your question.
01:20:35.000I think it is so important for parents to be in lockstep.
01:20:39.000And this goes back to my question about me answering and saying that I'm going to be at this high school every single day, at the middle school every single day.
01:20:45.000I think students like you really need to have the backing of their parents to know that they can push back against educators in a respectful way.
01:20:53.000You know, you don't need to raise hell as a student because you also don't want to make yourself.
01:20:57.000I get emails all the time from students that are in high school, you know, that say, I said your name during Black History Month and my teacher said that they wouldn't put it on the board and things of that nature.
01:21:07.000And when that sort of thing happens, I actually get involved.
01:21:10.000When I get these emails, I will email the administration.
01:21:12.000I will email with their parents because their parents are on the emails and I get involved.
01:21:16.000I actually think that it's almost more impactful when you're younger to call out that indoctrination and to call it out in a powerful way and to speak to an administrator because that administrator is going to have that fear that a minor is uncomfortable with the way that something is happening in the school system, right?
01:21:31.000And that's a health, that's a healthy fear for them to have, right?
01:21:34.000You don't want to have a bunch of minors saying that they are feeling discriminated against.
01:21:38.000So I would use that to your potential.
01:21:40.000I would speak with the administration.
01:21:41.000I would raise flags on teachers and do this completely in lockstep with your parents.
01:21:49.000Do this in lockstep with your parents because they'll be able to take it further if the issue does need to be elevated.
01:21:54.000Your parents will be able to take it further than you do.
01:21:56.000And look, you have a remarkable head start in life.
01:21:59.000It is so hard the indoctrination that you're going to go through, but I can tell you that you obviously have a very good head on your shoulders.
01:22:04.000And when you get into college, you're going to, let me look around.
01:22:07.000You're going to have so many people, an entire community that you can fight with just as hard.
01:22:12.000So, you know, give it time and know that you are exactly doing the right thing the most that you can right now.
01:22:56.000And these issues that we're talking about, as I said, are unfathomable.
01:23:00.000But when I say to you that I wake up every single morning optimistic because I realize how angry the left has become, which lets me know that we are closer to our goal, and that we are actually seeing a cultural shift, that we are taking down the false idols that are talking about extensively in the Bible of why idolatry in Hollywood.
01:23:17.000Hollywood is not in the Bible, but we talk about false idols and idolatry and why it's wrong.
01:23:24.000And so when we ever do an event, I always want people to walk out and I want them to feel optimistic that wholesomeness is making a return, that holiness is making a return, and that it's thanks to all the people in this room.
01:23:36.000And I feel remarkably blessed that I've been able to do what I've been doing for the last seven years.
01:23:40.000And it's thanks to every single person in this room that has supported me.
01:23:43.000So from the bottom of my heart, thank you for allowing me to do what I love and what I believe in.