The Charlie Kirk Show - Every Bad Idea Comes from a College: Live on Stage at OSU with Candace Owens

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00:00:10.000 And get involved today, my conversation on campus with Candace Owens at The Ohio State University, one of the largest campus events we've ever done in Turning Point USA history.

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00:00:35.000 Here we go.

00:00:36.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:00:38.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

00:00:40.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:00:44.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:00:47.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:00:48.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:00:49.000 His spirit, his love of this country.

00:00:51.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

00:00:58.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

00:01:06.000 That's why we are here.

00:01:10.000 Thank you guys.

00:01:11.000 Thank you.

00:01:15.000 It's good to be back.

00:01:17.000 It's good to be back.

00:01:18.000 And that guy, I mean, I felt badly.

00:01:20.000 He didn't even wait for us to get on stage before he started protesting.

00:01:23.000 I was like, he missed his big chance.

00:01:24.000 We weren't even up here.

00:01:26.000 I mean, they can heckle me all you want.

00:01:26.000 No patience.

00:01:28.000 You heckled a Turning Point USA chapter leader.

00:01:30.000 I mean, that's just cruel.

00:01:32.000 I mean, here they're trying to run a nice event.

00:01:34.000 You can say whatever you want to us.

00:01:36.000 Yeah, we don't care.

00:01:37.000 I just felt like, man, he could have just waited five minutes and he would have had us and he could have made fun of us.

00:01:41.000 They said whatever they wanted.

00:01:42.000 Those gender studies majors, man.

00:01:44.000 They're just.

00:01:48.000 So, Candace, I can't remember.

00:01:50.000 Did we do this event together?

00:01:52.000 I think we did Ohio State together a few years ago.

00:01:52.000 We did.

00:01:55.000 I absolutely remember being on stage with you here.

00:01:58.000 Or maybe I was alone.

00:01:59.000 Maybe it was Brandon Tatum.

00:02:00.000 You guys look exactly alike, obviously.

00:02:01.000 So I'm confused.

00:02:02.000 I get that all the time, by the way, that Brandon Tatum and I look exactly alike.

00:02:07.000 But it's kind of fun going back to some of these campuses a couple years later.

00:02:11.000 And Candace, you were at LSU last night for the tide for the largest campus event ever, because this one I think ties the record, actually.

00:02:20.000 It's standing room only.

00:02:21.000 We had to turn away hundreds of students, which is a good thing, but it's also, it's a good thing because there's so much interest.

00:02:26.000 We wish we could have everyone here.

00:02:27.000 But also shows there's a lot more conservatives on college campuses than they would ever admit or acknowledge.

00:02:35.000 I think it's one of those things that it's always so good to plug in and do college campuses because, you know, I have my podcast and you have your radio show and you talk every day about issues and you just think, what's happening to this country?

00:02:45.000 But then we see these results.

00:02:46.000 Like when we first started doing campus tours and we were doing our bit, there weren't this many students.

00:02:52.000 There just weren't this many conservatives in the audience.

00:02:54.000 And so it's incredible to me.

00:02:56.000 I mean, I was not one of you when I was in college.

00:02:58.000 I was a liberal.

00:02:59.000 And so it's incredible to me to see that not just that there are conservatives, but there are conservatives that are proud enough to be conservatives to be seen and to say, yeah, I'm one of those people that actually likes our country, likes American principles, likes American values.

00:03:12.000 And I'm going to say that loudly.

00:03:14.000 So just commending everybody in this room.

00:03:16.000 Now, I want to ask a question before we get started.

00:03:19.000 Two questions, actually, that I always ask before we get started.

00:03:21.000 First question is, and I'm asking you not to make fun of you.

00:03:24.000 I actually think it's awesome if you are here.

00:03:26.000 Raise your hand if you're here and you actually fundamentally disagree with a lot of what me and Charlie Kirk say.

00:03:31.000 That's awesome.

00:03:31.000 Give these people a round of applause.

00:03:36.000 I do.

00:03:36.000 I think it's super awesome.

00:03:38.000 It's very difficult, especially because I always express to people the college environment is so different from when I was in school.

00:03:44.000 When I was in school and I was a liberal, this is 13 years ago.

00:03:48.000 My friends were conservatives.

00:03:50.000 Conservatives and liberals were allowed to be friends.

00:03:52.000 It was never toxic.

00:03:53.000 There wasn't a single protest on campus, whether a Democrat or a Republican spoke.

00:03:58.000 It was just, okay, if you want to go hear them speak, you can hear them speak.

00:04:01.000 So so much has shifted over just 13 short years, and it's become so hostile, and it shouldn't be that way.

00:04:08.000 So I do want to commend you guys if you're here to say, actually, I don't agree with these people, but I want to hear what they actually think rather than having the media spin to you what we think.

00:04:16.000 Because if you've read my Wikipedia page, we just be very clear.

00:04:20.000 I am not actually a homophobic, racist, sexist, misogynist, self-hating black person woman who wants puppies and pit bulls to die, which is what I think it currently says at this moment. 0.92

00:04:33.000 The latest one on mine is that I hate Christians, which is very interesting. 1.00

00:04:37.000 We're both self-haters, Candace, in our own way. 0.74

00:04:40.000 But I agree with you.

00:04:41.000 People that are here that disagree, it's interesting and it's important because for conservatives, you have to hear things you disagree every single day when you go to class.

00:04:51.000 And so it's nice for liberals to actually hear the opposing worldview.

00:04:55.000 Candace, what has changed in the last couple of years as we've done these campus events?

00:05:00.000 I get a sense that the trans thing is completely out of control. 1.00

00:05:03.000 It was an element of our campus talks a couple years ago, but now there's a militancy, there's a tyranny behind the trans thing. 0.99

00:05:11.000 And then when you were in college, you were telling a great story last night at LSU about somebody who tried to tell you to always blame men for your problems.

00:05:18.000 Was the trans thing even an issue back then?

00:05:21.000 I mean, there was at least a belief that, I mean, as disturbing as the story was, at least they believed there was men and women.

00:05:27.000 Right.

00:05:28.000 It's unfathomable, honestly.

00:05:30.000 I promise you, I say this.

00:05:32.000 If you got into a time machine and you went back just two decades ago in America, if you said, I am from the future and in 20 years, men will be able to be women and women will be able to be men and there will be 26,000 genders.

00:05:46.000 People would have thought you were on crack cocaine.

00:05:49.000 They would have probably put you on a Psych 5150 hold.

00:05:51.000 The debates that we're having today are unimaginable 20 years ago.

00:05:55.000 I always tell people, I missed the 90s.

00:05:57.000 Everyone was happy.

00:05:58.000 We were wearing overalls.

00:05:59.000 I mean, we were watching the Winslows.

00:06:02.000 Good feel good.

00:06:03.000 Family.

00:06:03.000 Family was, yeah, the nuclear family was being presented.

00:06:07.000 And so wokeism has destroyed so much and it's further divided people.

00:06:12.000 But some of these things, it's difficult to even comprehend that you would be selling to children an idea, such a dangerous ideology.

00:06:19.000 And this is one that I'm super passionate about.

00:06:21.000 I've always been passionate about, but I'm especially passionate about because I'm a mother.

00:06:26.000 And to think that there is an environment right now where institutions are taking advantage of children and trying to convince them that they can attain something that is an impossibility, right?

00:06:37.000 Impossibility.

00:06:38.000 You can change your appearances.

00:06:40.000 I could dye my hair pink. 0.91

00:06:41.000 I can shave my head bald. 0.59

00:06:43.000 I will never be a man. 0.99

00:06:44.000 You will never be a woman. 1.00

00:06:46.000 It really is that simple.

00:06:47.000 And yet kids are going on to drugs like Lupron, which are used to chemically castrate to pedophiles that are in prison.

00:06:56.000 These are the same drugs to block your puberty, fundamentally transforming your entire livelihood.

00:07:02.000 Because when you grow up, you just can't get that back.

00:07:04.000 In fact, the criminal justice advocates have sued to stop allowing Lupron to be administered in prisons because they say it's too inhumane.

00:07:11.000 But they want to give it to 12 or 13 year olds.

00:07:13.000 But Candace, what is the driver here?

00:07:14.000 Is the driver social contagion via TikTok?

00:07:18.000 Is the driver, you know, the pharmaceutical companies that are going to make billions of dollars off of doing this?

00:07:23.000 If you look at a map of gender, pediatric gender reassignment clinics in America, there were two 15 years ago.

00:07:29.000 Now there are hundreds.

00:07:30.000 There's over 600 across the country.

00:07:32.000 There's a supply issue and a demand issue.

00:07:35.000 Where is this coming from?

00:07:36.000 And why are we putting up with 11-year-olds getting hysterectomies?

00:07:41.000 I would say there's two elements of this.

00:07:42.000 The first, you accurately define social contagion.

00:07:45.000 Of course, we are the generation of social media.

00:07:47.000 When I grew up, there was no social media.

00:07:49.000 That sounds so crazy.

00:07:50.000 People are like, what do you mean?

00:07:51.000 What did you do?

00:07:51.000 I don't know.

00:07:52.000 We spoke to each other.

00:07:54.000 We played outside.

00:07:56.000 Wild, I know.

00:07:57.000 But there was no social media.

00:07:58.000 And I thank God that I was born in a time where we were able to live in reality and not in fiction, where people are creating avatars of themselves and where people are essentially doing more and more extreme things for attention.

00:08:12.000 And this is a huge part of this.

00:08:13.000 I talked, unpacked this on my podcast, how psychiatrists were talking about seeing people that didn't actually have the disorders that they claimed to have, but they were mimicking the disorders because it gave them a sense of community online, right?

00:08:27.000 They called these pseudo-disorders, right?

00:08:28.000 So rather than the real thing, like years ago, you would actually have a person that suffered from gender dysphoria, which was legally, when I was growing up, we learned about it in a DSM-5 as a mental disorder.

00:08:38.000 Now you're seeing kids that just think it's cool.

00:08:41.000 They're watching Dylan Mulvaney on TikTok and they go, I want to identify with this community.

00:08:45.000 So they're pretending to be trans because it gets them an instant community. 0.85

00:08:49.000 And ultimately, what we're talking about is a spiritual emptiness, right?

00:08:53.000 Kids have never, we call it social media.

00:08:55.000 It's actually the most anti-social thing in the entire world to hold up your phone and talk to yourself, right?

00:09:00.000 And kids are spending more and more time getting a dopamine kick from likes and they don't know.

00:09:06.000 When they're done getting that like, they need to feel that high again.

00:09:09.000 It's quite literally a drug.

00:09:11.000 And so an element of that is that we have a generation of children that are addicted to the drug that social media has become that can't go back in their memory to a time when it didn't exist.

00:09:20.000 And what we're seeing are symptoms of that, people that just literally want attention, need a hug, need spiritual fulfillment.

00:09:27.000 And they're never, ever, ever going to get it by being more extreme by saying you're trans.

00:09:31.000 You're, well, cis is, is that us?

00:09:32.000 I don't know.

00:09:33.000 There's so many terms.

00:09:33.000 That's weird.

00:09:34.000 What is cis?

00:09:35.000 Cis?

00:09:36.000 I think we're cis.

00:09:37.000 Are we cis?

00:09:38.000 We're cis.

00:09:38.000 Okay, cisgender.

00:09:40.000 Do we call each other like cis? 0.76

00:09:42.000 I don't think so.

00:09:42.000 Okay, well, I can't learn that.

00:09:45.000 I think cisgender is.

00:09:46.000 What's z-zer? 1.00

00:09:47.000 What is zer?

00:09:48.000 What is z-zer? 0.99

00:09:49.000 I think that is, those are pronouns for low IQ people who are too afraid to engage in reality.

00:09:58.000 Z and zero and Zimmin. 0.97

00:09:59.000 Yeah, and Zimmin. 0.99

00:10:00.000 What is that?

00:10:01.000 Though those are, that's what I, like, pronouns that people put in their email signature.

00:10:05.000 Whenever I see pronouns in an email signature, you know what it is?

00:10:07.000 It says, I went to college.

00:10:09.000 I have a lot of student debt.

00:10:10.000 I'm miserable.

00:10:11.000 And acknowledge how good of a person I am.

00:10:13.000 Oh, mine is like, you're not even getting hired.

00:10:15.000 So just sweet.

00:10:17.000 It is the ultimate deterrent not to work at Turning Point USA.

00:10:20.000 Well, no, they're saying this now.

00:10:22.000 Forget just Turning Point USA and conservative organizations.

00:10:24.000 I don't remember whether it was the Washington Post, but it was a left-wing publication that wrote an article saying that people that put their pronouns on their resumes are not getting hired.

00:10:34.000 And I went, gee, I wonder why.

00:10:36.000 You're going to be the first one to go to the HR department, the first one to get to. 0.99

00:10:39.000 Why aren't you just writing, I'm stupid on your resume? 1.00

00:10:42.000 It's completely crazy. 0.99

00:10:44.000 Yeah, watch, they're going to file some sort of discrimination lawsuit.

00:10:46.000 I mean, is pronoun declaration a protected class?

00:10:50.000 I don't think that's a protected class.

00:10:51.000 No, it is not a protected class just yet, but it's driving people crazy.

00:10:55.000 But that's an interesting point.

00:10:56.000 I do want to zero in on this, though, because the way that they frame the trans issue is two ways.

00:11:02.000 Protecting children, nonsense. 0.91

00:11:03.000 It's child abuse. 0.92

00:11:04.000 Okay.

00:11:05.000 And the second way is, well, Charlie, why does it bother you?

00:11:07.000 Live and let live.

00:11:08.000 That's not the question.

00:11:10.000 The question is, why are you making me say something I know that is not true?

00:11:14.000 It is inherently tyrannical.

00:11:17.000 It's not about living and let live.

00:11:18.000 It's not about you being in your home dressing the way you want to dress.

00:11:21.000 No, no, no.

00:11:21.000 It's you making me acknowledge something that is an insult and a middle finger to reality.

00:11:27.000 It's so weird, right?

00:11:29.000 You're exactly right. 0.98

00:11:31.000 I always say that I am okay if you want to be crazy, but stop requiring the rest of us to be crazy to accommodate you're crazy, right? 0.74

00:11:38.000 If I said, like, here's my invisible friend, her name's Teresa, everybody say hi to Teresa.

00:11:42.000 It's a little weird, you know, it gets a little weird.

00:11:43.000 And then you start saying, if you don't say hi to Teresa, and if you don't see Teresa sitting on the stage with me, then you're a bigot.

00:11:49.000 What?

00:11:50.000 This is where we're at right now in society.

00:11:51.000 It's completely made up.

00:11:52.000 It's completely fictional.

00:11:53.000 And yet they have so much power to go around to call people bigots and to call people transphobes because we can obviously, we have two eyes.

00:12:01.000 We can see that it isn't so.

00:12:02.000 A man will never be able to give birth. 1.00

00:12:05.000 A man will never be able to menstruate. 1.00

00:12:08.000 When did this become controversial?

00:12:10.000 And it's tragic that we have to say that and get applause.

00:12:14.000 I know.

00:12:15.000 It's so sad.

00:12:15.000 If I should say that, you guys should be like, wow.

00:12:18.000 Why are we here?

00:12:18.000 One plus one equals two.

00:12:20.000 Really amazing stuff, right?

00:12:21.000 I mean, but it's where it's.

00:12:22.000 No, I mean, a couple years ago, if we would have said that on campus, we would have been like, yeah, like, why are we here?

00:12:27.000 See you next time.

00:12:28.000 Got it.

00:12:29.000 But now it's like, yeah. 0.76

00:12:31.000 They can't give birth.

00:12:33.000 Common sense is so, it's so true. 0.77

00:12:36.000 I say this.

00:12:37.000 I shouldn't even really, it boggles my mind to sit back into reflecting and think that I even have a platform because I haven't said anything like, this isn't Einstein breaking to say, all I said was, oh, black people don't have to be Democrats.

00:12:50.000 And they were like, ah, the whole world just crumbled.

00:12:54.000 And they were like, how dare she say something?

00:12:56.000 It's critical, though.

00:12:57.000 It's the simple truth that drives them the most crazy.

00:13:00.000 It's because they live in abstractions.

00:13:03.000 They can't actually ever say something that the plumber, the electrician, the police officer, the firefighter, the person that didn't go to Harvard can understand. 0.89

00:13:11.000 They have to say, well, you know, according to postmodern theory and the book by Herbert Mark who's like, actually, yeah, you're a racist and a bigot.

00:13:18.000 No, Charlie, this is not a joke.

00:13:20.000 This was, you guys can check this.

00:13:22.000 You're not even going to believe me, but I promise you this is real. 0.92

00:13:24.000 So apparently, if you have an organized pantry or a clean home, you're racist.

00:13:28.000 This is a real thing.

00:13:29.000 This is a real thing now.

00:13:30.000 And I have a very organized pantry.

00:13:32.000 Like I have a very, like my pantry is hotter than your pantry.

00:13:36.000 I am so proud of it.

00:13:37.000 It took me basically two months to organize my pantry.

00:13:41.000 And then I found out on, because a professor, professor from Loyola University, wrote an article explaining that actually if you aspire to organize your closets, it's because you are inherently racist and you don't understand that these social constructs. 1.00

00:13:53.000 I mean, how much school do you have to have to be that stupid? 1.00

00:13:57.000 How many years of school does it take to be that stupid? 1.00

00:14:00.000 Let's just also call what it is. 1.00

00:14:01.000 It's blatantly insulting to black people is what that is. 0.96

00:14:04.000 As if a black person has an organized cabinet that they're somehow like rejecting some sort of inclination. 0.99

00:14:11.000 You're a bigot if you believe that. 0.96

00:14:12.000 If somehow organizing your home is tied to white supremacy.

00:14:17.000 So Ibram X. Kendi is like the archbishop of the religion of anti-racism, right?

00:14:22.000 And he, have you seen this the other day? 1.00

00:14:24.000 He's so stupid. 1.00

00:14:25.000 It's interesting. 1.00

00:14:26.000 He's super rich because he goes around.

00:14:28.000 By the way, this is how you know, for those of you that disagree tonight, here's how you know there's probably something to what Candace and I believe.

00:14:34.000 If you disagree, we'll allow you to the front of the line.

00:14:36.000 You can say whatever you want, ask any question.

00:14:38.000 99% of people on the left will never have an open mic at their event because they're afraid of getting cross-examined by somebody that might make them look bad.

00:14:47.000 Okay?

00:14:48.000 Now, this guy, you saw this clip, though.

00:14:51.000 Okay, I got to tell you about it.

00:14:52.000 It's unbelievable.

00:14:53.000 I did a whole thing on it on the show today.

00:14:54.000 So Ibram X. Kendi is asked a question in front of a friendly audience.

00:14:57.000 And someone says, hey, how would you define racism?

00:15:00.000 Ask, what is racism?

00:15:02.000 He said, everything.

00:15:03.000 Well, you know, that would have been a better answer because he said, well, racism is racist activity.

00:15:11.000 It's like, no, no, you can't define the word with the word.

00:15:15.000 What are you, like a trans activist now? 0.70

00:15:17.000 A woman is someone who identifies as a woman. 0.91

00:15:19.000 No, no, no, we get that, but it's called circular reasoning.

00:15:21.000 You can't, you can't do, you can't do that.

00:15:24.000 Can you define what the word is?

00:15:25.000 And then he goes, well, it's very simple that racism is the activity of people really being prejudiced and racist.

00:15:32.000 He does it again.

00:15:33.000 The second time.

00:15:34.000 They've never actually had to define the very word that they're restructuring society around because here's why.

00:15:40.000 If he gave the actual definition of racism, which is one person being bigoted or prejudiced to another person, he would have defined himself.

00:15:46.000 He would have all of a sudden self-identified as a bigot.

00:15:50.000 100%.

00:15:51.000 I mean, it's stunning to me.

00:15:52.000 I always say, if you're wondering whether or not it's racist and you read a headline, just switch the race that they're talking about.

00:15:58.000 And if it sounds bad to you, I'll give you an example.

00:16:01.000 During the 2016 election, the lead up to Trump going to office, BuzzFeed was out of control.

00:16:06.000 I swear it was BuzzFeed. 0.97

00:16:06.000 They wrote a headline that said, white people just need to shut up. 0.97

00:16:10.000 And I went, could you, I couldn't imagine waking up and reading a headline that just said, black people need to just shut up. 1.00

00:16:16.000 It would be absurd. 0.99

00:16:16.000 It's unimaginable. 0.99

00:16:17.000 You would go, this would never exist.

00:16:18.000 They would burn down BuzzFeed.

00:16:20.000 They would be protested out there tomorrow. 0.52

00:16:21.000 Literally, they would burn down BuzzFeed. 0.97

00:16:23.000 And yet, it was totally fine to be openly and flagrantly racist toward white people.

00:16:29.000 Especially after George Floyd, you could say anything about a white person. 0.99

00:16:32.000 You could threaten to kill white people. 0.99

00:16:34.000 And people don't understand. 0.99

00:16:35.000 They go, well, reverse racism doesn't exist.

00:16:37.000 You're correct.

00:16:38.000 Reverse racism does not exist.

00:16:40.000 It's just racism.

00:16:41.000 Okay.

00:16:42.000 And it's in our college emissions.

00:16:45.000 It's in affirmative action, college admissions hiring practice.

00:16:47.000 Robin D'Angelo, who wrote White Fragility, which I hope none of you ever have to read in college, she came out the other day and she said, Yeah, it's time for black people to separate themselves from white people.

00:16:57.000 Segregation. 0.89

00:16:58.000 I'm pretty sure that's called segregation. 0.81

00:16:59.000 And she said, you know, I just think black people need to just separate themselves from white people. 0.97

00:17:04.000 And you're seeing this also, and I hope this is not one of the universities in having segregated graduations.

00:17:08.000 I mean, dormitories.

00:17:10.000 How can you have somebody repurpose?

00:17:12.000 Have we learned no lessons from the past?

00:17:14.000 And here's the truth.

00:17:15.000 If you're wondering where every bad societal idea comes from, it's the academia.

00:17:20.000 It's why I advise: if you are in school, take time to learn and to read the works of Thomas Sowell, who quite literally did one of the most brilliant things ever.

00:17:30.000 He has a PhD in economics.

00:17:31.000 He attended Columbia University to receive his master's, and then he went on to get his PhD from Harvard.

00:17:38.000 And the reason why he went to these schools, he writes in his book, he says, I went to these schools so that I can look people in the eye that went to these schools and say, you know nothing, right?

00:17:45.000 Your degree means nothing.

00:17:46.000 It's meaningless.

00:17:46.000 But he writes extensively about every bad idea that's ever happened in society.

00:17:50.000 And he says it was always the academics who came up with it.

00:17:52.000 Jim Crow, eugenics, Planned Parenthood, everything that we're fighting and we look back on and we go, oh my God, this is so terrible.

00:17:59.000 It was written up by a professor.

00:18:01.000 These were their brilliant ideas.

00:18:02.000 Madison Grant, Columbian Yale graduate, who wrote what was the most successful book at that time in the progressive era, The Passing of the Great Race.

00:18:10.000 It was quite literally an argument that minorities should not procreate, that the Nordic race needed to be protected.

00:18:15.000 It was an argument that people that lived in southern and eastern Europe that were coming over at the time, the immigrants, were going to dumb down the supreme white race.

00:18:24.000 This book was read by and it was hailed as a Bible by Adolf Hitler.

00:18:28.000 It was the progressives and the university professors in America that inspired Adolf Hitler. 0.81

00:18:33.000 They don't want you to know this because the best part about being an academic is never having to say you're wrong.

00:18:37.000 They were the ones that were writing about all these crazy COVID policies. 0.99

00:18:40.000 Let your family die. 0.99

00:18:41.000 Go back and research any moment in time that you think is the most egregious in American history. 0.99

00:18:46.000 And I'll show you the professor that wrote the policies and got in lockstep with the government to produce them.

00:18:51.000 And this is one of the dangers of the academia because what's happening is people are coming out with an inflated sense of arrogance.

00:18:57.000 I mean, the number one things that were said to me and Charlie when we started was, you don't have a degree.

00:19:02.000 Oh, okay.

00:19:03.000 Does that make you more powerful?

00:19:04.000 Literally, people that are less successful than us, that are older than us, okay, would look at us and say, well, you don't have a degree, so I shouldn't have to listen to you.

00:19:13.000 Okay, well, you don't have any success, so why the hell should I have to listen to you?

00:19:18.000 It's crazy.

00:19:19.000 It's one of the craziest things.

00:19:21.000 I want to add to that, Charlie.

00:19:22.000 Sorry, I'm really on a rant about the academia because it's something, and I appreciate the irony of the crowd in front of me.

00:19:30.000 But I want you to know this, and that it means never having to say you're sorry.

00:19:33.000 And it's so dangerous.

00:19:34.000 What really happens when you look at the world right now in America, and this is a fact.

00:19:38.000 We have never produced students that have graduated with lower IQs.

00:19:42.000 It is a fact that since the establishment of the Department of Education, the collective IQ is going down in America, okay? 0.98

00:19:48.000 So they federalize the education system, and we're getting dumber and dumber and dumber. 0.95

00:19:51.000 If you go back and you reread the writings of people that had no formal education and were Civil War soldiers, read what they wrote to their parents, it's like poetry. 0.97

00:20:02.000 The way that they describe what they're seeing when they're writing letters back home, no average American can write like that.

00:20:08.000 I would be challenged to write like that.

00:20:09.000 It's literally poetic.

00:20:11.000 So what has happened?

00:20:12.000 How is it plausible that we've never produced kids with this low of a collective IQ?

00:20:16.000 And yet, at the exact same time, we have never handed out more degrees in American society.

00:20:22.000 Does that make sense?

00:20:23.000 Does that, can we chart that? 0.99

00:20:24.000 How are we, kids are getting dumber, but they're getting more degrees. 0.96

00:20:27.000 And why is that happening? 0.97

00:20:29.000 Well, because the government understands that to give you a degree is to give you an inflated sense of ego, right? 0.99

00:20:35.000 How stupid to think that you should spend four years and $100,000 to receive a degree in gender studies. 1.00

00:20:40.000 You know how dumb that is? 1.00

00:20:41.000 Do you know how dumb that is? 0.99

00:20:43.000 You get out into the real world, and what happens is you realize that nobody in the history of the world anywhere at any time ever said, quick, get me a gender studies major. 0.97

00:20:56.000 I really need a gender studies major to help me in this prediction.

00:20:58.000 It's never happened. 0.98

00:21:00.000 So these kids spend all of their time getting these degrees, four years, $20,000 debt.

00:21:04.000 They get into the road and they get punched in the face by free markets and capitalism.

00:21:08.000 They realize nobody wants them.

00:21:10.000 And then they turn around and they meet these kids that didn't go to college, right?

00:21:13.000 That didn't acquire any debt, that jumped right into the workforce, that have real skills and can work with their hands.

00:21:18.000 And they realize, hey, wait a second, Johnny that I went to high school with and has no debt is now running a business where he fixes ACs and he's cleaning up and he's making millions a year.

00:21:28.000 Because let me tell you, everybody at some point in their life, especially if they live in the South, has said, please, for the love of God, in the summertime, I will pay you anything to fix my air conditioner, right?

00:21:28.000 How is that possible?

00:21:39.000 And then that person who graduated becomes bitter and angry because how on earth could someone like Candace Owens and Charlie Kirk who didn't go and get a degree from whatever university you think is so sparkling?

00:21:49.000 I went to an Ivy League school, says Sam Harris.

00:21:52.000 How could Candace Owens and Charlie Kirk get something right and not me?

00:21:55.000 No one should listen to them.

00:21:57.000 And then they become, as Thomas Sowell warns, very dangerous.

00:22:02.000 He says there is nothing like an academic scorned.

00:22:05.000 And when they start to realize, it's so true.

00:22:07.000 There's nothing like an academic scorned.

00:22:08.000 And then they start to have really dangerous ideas.

00:22:11.000 And they start to say, we need to fix this.

00:22:13.000 And they come up with radical ideas.

00:22:15.000 We need to steal more from the rich.

00:22:17.000 We need to punish the successful more. 1.00

00:22:19.000 Lock down the mom and pop shops.

00:22:21.000 The people that come up with those ideas are dangerous academics who realize that everything that they think they know does not apply when it comes to the free markets.

00:22:29.000 I just wanted to let you guys know that.

00:22:32.000 The entire progressive movement was started by a council of academics.

00:22:36.000 Woodrow Wilson was a college president of Princeton University and then became governor of New Jersey and then president in 1912.

00:22:42.000 And he really started this kind of progressive era where he was the first American president where he said the American founders got it wrong.

00:22:49.000 We're in a new era.

00:22:50.000 He said, we know we have an industrial might.

00:22:53.000 We don't need this life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.

00:22:57.000 We don't need this promise of the founding.

00:22:59.000 We're a new man.

00:23:00.000 And that's something that is laced in your education here that academics push, which is that now we're in the modern era.

00:23:08.000 We no longer need the thinkers, the traditions, the patterns, or the customs of what came before.

00:23:13.000 And if you look very carefully in your class, you'll pick up on this now.

00:23:16.000 There's kind of an there's an embedded bias towards modernity.

00:23:20.000 Basically like, well, we have Twitter, we have airplanes, we have Advil, therefore we're smarter than Thomas Jefferson.

00:23:28.000 I think people put way too much trust in progress, way too much trust.

00:23:33.000 And in fact, I think human beings don't change regardless of the technology around us.

00:23:39.000 In fact, it actually makes our broken nature more likely to screw up.

00:23:43.000 Technology is an amplifier on our broken nature.

00:23:46.000 In fact, if we raise bad people that are devoid of wisdom and we give them super weapons called smartphones and they don't know why they're on this earth or their purpose or their meaning, then they're going to be the most suicidal generation in history, which is exactly what's happening right now.

00:24:01.000 And so this has happened for a variety of reasons.

00:24:04.000 One of the things we stand for as conservatives, if there's just one thing you remember I say tonight, it's that we probably have a lot to learn from the last 2,000 years of history and radically redefining it, swooping in with tyrannical force, with godlike authority to try to remake man and woman, to try to have war on nature, as if we have figured it out in 2023 is not just prideful. 0.94

00:24:26.000 It's stupid and it's dangerous and it's driven by academics, by academics that have never lived in the real world, people that have PhDs and wrote dissertations and they could not fix a sink if their life depended on it. 0.93

00:24:39.000 And these are the people that are screwing up our entire society. 1.00

00:24:45.000 That is so true.

00:24:46.000 And you know what?

00:24:46.000 One of the things that I've been trying to do is to go backwards because I realize how just a few short generations ago, how much they knew, how much my grandparents knew.

00:24:54.000 It's everything to me.

00:24:55.000 Now I realize how little I know because the one thing I did was I moved to the South, right?

00:24:59.000 The simple life.

00:25:01.000 You mean being able to take care of yourself and grow your own food?

00:25:03.000 Give me some of that, right?

00:25:05.000 But getting started, right?

00:25:06.000 Getting started and going on this path of wanting to have a garden and learn to grow food and realizing how little I knew.

00:25:11.000 Think about this right now.

00:25:12.000 If we actually all had to rely on ourselves, how much do you really know?

00:25:17.000 It's a very scary concept that you need to sit and you need to think with that concept because it stunned me.

00:25:22.000 I sat there in Tennessee and I said, I was talking to people.

00:25:25.000 I had a woman that was helping with the kids.

00:25:27.000 She's got, you know, 15 grandchildren.

00:25:29.000 She's seen everything.

00:25:31.000 She's in her 80s and she knows so much.

00:25:34.000 These are the type of people that liberals with their lot sipping lattes on the Eastern Coast mock, right?

00:25:40.000 Mock these sorts of people.

00:25:42.000 She looks in, she helps with my garden.

00:25:44.000 She's pulling weed.

00:25:44.000 She tells me what everything is.

00:25:45.000 She tells me what's poison.

00:25:46.000 Just be able to look and say, that's poison if you eat that.

00:25:49.000 You got to watch out for these bugs.

00:25:51.000 Do you know what bugs and what birds are in your backyard?

00:25:54.000 Would you be able to hunt?

00:25:55.000 Would you be able to grow your own food?

00:25:57.000 If the answer is no, I'm going to shock you by telling you that you are in fact also on welfare because food does not grow in a grocery store.

00:26:04.000 I have completely transformed my life.

00:26:06.000 I want to be like the people that when I was raced and when I was coming up in school, I was told they know nothing.

00:26:12.000 If you think, and I call that woman Grandma Helen because she's been such a gift to me in helping me to learn everything and to be able to work with my hands, if you think people like Sam Harris and people that write for the Huffington Post know more than Grandma Helen in Tennessee, you are confused.

00:26:26.000 Those people know everything, know what's in your backyard.

00:26:30.000 Well, and we're in the perfect place for this conversation, Candace, because this state, the state of Ohio, is really, I think, the heartbeat of the muscular class in America.

00:26:41.000 These are the folks that work at their hands.

00:26:43.000 They pay their taxes.

00:26:44.000 This was once the industrial base of America, but there's a lot of people in touch with the land here, massive agrarian base, you know, agricultural, really an agricultural beast for the world.

00:26:57.000 And this state for, I mean that in a positive way, and this state for many decades, though, was the victim of snooty, elitist, scoffing, coastal, bipartisan neoliberalism, which is we're going to open up our borders.

00:27:16.000 We're going to send jobs overseas, and we don't care about East Palestine, Ohio. 0.89

00:27:20.000 We don't care about Hubbard, Ohio.

00:27:22.000 And for a while, it seemed like a good idea.

00:27:24.000 Wow, look at all this cheap products we get from China.

00:27:27.000 But I think in Ohio, one of the reasons why this state has recalibrated itself in a more conservative America-first direction is that you realize that, okay, fine, our homes are twice as big as they were in the 1950s, but they're also twice as empty because we're having less kids.

00:27:43.000 And our garages are full of plastic from China that we don't care about. 1.00

00:27:48.000 And the local factory is closed.

00:27:51.000 And more people are on opioids than ever before.

00:27:54.000 And the people who told us this is a good deal, like Mitt Romney came in, and he's wealthier than ever.

00:27:59.000 And southeastern Ohio is basically obliterated.

00:28:03.000 But then we're told by the academics, just keep on supporting neoliberalism, keep on sending money to Ukraine, keep on keeping the borders open, and then somehow your life will get happier and better.

00:28:13.000 And the people of Ohio the last couple of years have made an amazing, courageous correction, I think, not just politically, but also that correction, but they've also realized that neoliberalism has destroyed the soul of Ohio.

00:28:26.000 That this open border, massive invade the world, invite the world, import a bunch of foreign products, and it was brought forth by academics that always had contempt for them.

00:28:37.000 Yeah, they have contempt for family.

00:28:38.000 And that's, it's a thread that I always try to make people realize is a lot of times you can think that what the left is doing is outrageous.

00:28:44.000 It is, and that it's chaotic.

00:28:46.000 It isn't.

00:28:47.000 And a good friend and mentor of mine, Dennis Prager, who was so wonderful and so brilliant, I remember asking him in earnest years ago, sitting across from him, what are they doing?

00:28:54.000 I don't, one day they're screaming at bathroom signs.

00:28:57.000 One day they're marching out of school protesting climate change.

00:28:59.000 What the heck are they doing?

00:29:01.000 Like, are they on drugs?

00:29:03.000 And the answer to that is probably yes.

00:29:04.000 But also, he said to me, it's just chaos.

00:29:08.000 You can't understand it.

00:29:10.000 But actually, I spent time thinking about that, and I think it's wrong.

00:29:14.000 And I offer back to him now that they're ever intentional.

00:29:18.000 It's Machiavellian and it's methodical.

00:29:21.000 And the method behind their madness is that all of these things represent an attack on family.

00:29:26.000 And when you start to see things through that lens and revisit those topics, you will realize that everything they do is to attack family.

00:29:33.000 That is the push for the LGBTQIA.

00:29:36.000 All of those initiatives, teaching people to mutilate their bodies, telling people to pursue same-sex couples and same-sex marriages, putting children on drugs that are irreversible. 0.91

00:29:46.000 Those people are not going to grow up and to be able to have productive nuclear families.

00:29:49.000 When you look at the climate job, the climate change lobby, what they are encouraging children in classrooms is saying that it would be irresponsible for you to grow up and start a family.

00:29:58.000 Notoriously, Megan and Harry received an award for agreeing to only have two kids.

00:30:03.000 It's about the shrinking of family, telling them it's the responsible, the eco-friendly thing to do to either not have a family altogether or to limit how big of a family that you actually have.

00:30:12.000 You look at transgenderism, of course, we touched upon that.

00:30:15.000 Every single topic up a left is after feminism, telling women to act like men, not to be at home, to climb the corporate ladder, telling men to act like women. 0.65

00:30:23.000 Everything is an attack on family.

00:30:25.000 And then you start to recast it and you realize, of course, because the thing that stands between the government and complete and utter omnipotence is family, right?

00:30:34.000 If you are the government and you want to be the God and the family in people's life, then there can be no God.

00:30:42.000 Mock Christians. 1.00

00:30:43.000 Celebrate atheism. 0.99

00:30:44.000 Celebrate sex culture. 0.93

00:30:46.000 Celebrate women dancing on stage half naked. 1.00

00:30:49.000 Display the Kardashians all the time.

00:30:51.000 Denigrate women by telling them that you're empowering women, right? 1.00

00:30:55.000 Break down the family structure and break down religion. 1.00

00:31:00.000 And then you will become the new religion. 0.96

00:31:02.000 And the biggest example of that for me, and I still am traumatized for what I saw during COVID, people on their hands and knees begging the government to deliver them one more day.

00:31:11.000 It was an experiment, a human experiment, and we failed.

00:31:16.000 We failed in a lot of ways.

00:31:18.000 But Candace, you didn't fail.

00:31:21.000 No, I didn't fail.

00:31:22.000 I passed with lying colors.

00:31:23.000 No, no, but that is correct.

00:31:25.000 And I was against the lockdowns from the beginning, and I was attacked from every possible direction.

00:31:30.000 The lockdowns will go down as one of the worst mistakes in human history.

00:31:34.000 But academics said that it was going to be great.

00:31:36.000 Though that goes to the core point right here before we do some questions, which I hope an academic will ask a question, which is the experts.

00:31:43.000 We were told to trust the experts.

00:31:45.000 You see, the problem with trusting the experts is it's not about trusting scientists.

00:31:51.000 It's not science.

00:31:52.000 It's about the scientists they like.

00:31:54.000 Dr. Anthony Fauci did more damage to Generation Z than almost any person.

00:32:02.000 That man should be in prison for the rest of his life.

00:32:12.000 Forcing a gene-altering shot on a generation that is not at a significant risk at all from dying from this virus and kicking kids out of school and kicking them out of the military, it's unconscionable.

00:32:25.000 And not to mention, I mean, I knew we had a problem with modernity when I was driving through Phoenix and I saw people alone in their car wearing masks as if they were going to get COVID through the radio.

00:32:40.000 And people, you know, it's really amazing.

00:32:43.000 I mean, I was at the airport the other day.

00:32:45.000 People still wear masks.

00:32:47.000 And I'm not here to mock you personally.

00:32:49.000 Maybe you have a reason for that.

00:32:50.000 I'd love to learn about that seriously.

00:32:53.000 But most of these are like 17-year-old neurotic young people that have brought, this is really important. 0.87

00:32:58.000 They've bought into this kind of cult of death promise that Greta.

00:33:02.000 Religion of government.

00:33:03.000 Yes, but it's like the world is going to end because of climate change.

00:33:05.000 The world is going to end if I get COVID.

00:33:07.000 Like actually, you'll probably be fine.

00:33:09.000 You look like you're in shape.

00:33:10.000 Like you're okay.

00:33:11.000 It's actually a doomsday cult, the left.

00:33:13.000 They're constantly telling you that you're going to die all the time in various ways.

00:33:16.000 It's a doomsday cult.

00:33:18.000 And it's why they're so unhappy and why unhappiness is like spreading throughout the country.

00:33:23.000 But I will say this as a reverse, we did fail the test, but despite all the coercion, Candace, despite all the subsidizing, despite all this, 37 million Americans still resisted taking the shot.

00:33:36.000 That's a big deal.

00:33:39.000 There's a remnant.

00:33:42.000 And I would argue it's probably more because a lot of people faked it, got fake papers, and it's amazing.

00:33:47.000 And there are always going to be Americans that are resilient.

00:33:50.000 And it just makes me happy.

00:33:52.000 I know that sometimes it seems like it's all doom and gloom, but when we see events like this, I'm telling you, it makes me feel elated to really understand that there is a cultural shift happening.

00:34:00.000 And you can tell because the left has never been more angry.

00:34:03.000 And that lets you know that they're losing control of the narrative, the narrative that so many of us believed, you know, celebrating celebrities, believing in Hollywood culture, wanting to be just like them.

00:34:13.000 And now we resent them and we realize that the real celebs are in your own household.

00:34:17.000 The real celebs are the fathers that lead their families, the women that raise their children.

00:34:25.000 They have never controlled more, and they've never been unhappier.

00:34:31.000 They've never had more institutional control and they've never been more paranoid.

00:34:35.000 If their victory was inevitable, their propaganda would not be necessary.

00:34:39.000 All right, let's do some questions.

00:34:40.000 We can start lining up.

00:34:42.000 All right, so here's the question.

00:34:43.000 Couple rules, everybody, okay? 0.97

00:34:44.000 If somebody comes up and says something you find objectionable that you don't like, let them finish their point.

00:34:51.000 We as conservatives don't heckle or interrupt.

00:34:53.000 We invite disagreement.

00:34:54.000 If we wanted heckling and disruption, we'd be outside like the apparatch with their flag screaming into the sky.

00:35:02.000 Second thing I want to say is, guys, please try to keep your questions down to like 10 to 15 seconds because we want to get to as many as possible.

00:35:09.000 And sometimes people just completely go on a little speech here.

00:35:13.000 And not that we don't want to hear everything that you want to say, but we want to get to as many people as possible.

00:35:17.000 So, yeah.

00:35:18.000 So if you disagree, you're allowed to go to the front of the line and tell us what you think.

00:35:22.000 We'll start with the first question.

00:35:24.000 Right here, let's go.

00:35:26.000 First of all, thank you for coming.

00:35:28.000 I have a very practical question.

00:35:31.000 What advice would you give to students who feel like their voice or free expression are being oppressed by university administrations or DEI programs?

00:35:40.000 You go first.

00:35:41.000 So one of the first things that I say is that you should fight the administrations.

00:35:45.000 I'm a big believer in that.

00:35:46.000 I literally sell shirts that say proud Karen because I think we need to bring back shaming people.

00:35:52.000 One of the things that the institutions hate is exposure.

00:35:55.000 They hate people finding out about what they're doing, and it makes them super embarrassing.

00:35:59.000 You just saw this at Stanford University where they acted like animals when that federal judge came and was invited to speak and wasn't allowed to share a single word.

00:36:07.000 So I would say fight them in a constructive way.

00:36:10.000 Make sure that you report these individuals, that you keep a law of these individuals, network with other people, tag us, tag Turning Point USA so that we can bring these stories to the storefront, to the forefront because the public needs to know and they hate what they absolutely hate is attention on the things that they're doing that are discriminatory to students like you.

00:36:27.000 And I want to just single out you and all of our great leaders.

00:36:33.000 Our Turning Point USA students here deserve a lot of credit for what they have to go through and their leadership.

00:36:38.000 And if you are not currently or actively involved in this chapter at Ohio State, start to get involved.

00:36:46.000 There's strength in numbers.

00:36:48.000 This sends a big statement.

00:36:49.000 It sends a statement to the administration the next time they start to poke around.

00:36:52.000 Like, hey, remember when we had to turn away a couple hundred kids for a conservative event on campus?

00:36:57.000 That gives you all of a sudden a pretty good argument that this is not some sort of fringe ideology.

00:37:02.000 Keep fighting.

00:37:02.000 You are in the minority against the administration.

00:37:05.000 But I will say this, and I say it factually, that from the security here and having this event, Ohio State University has been a lot better to work with than most of the other schools we've had to deal with in the last couple weeks.

00:37:16.000 So thank you.

00:37:18.000 We got to get to the next question.

00:37:20.000 Thank you.

00:37:24.000 Hi.

00:37:25.000 Oh, is this good?

00:37:26.000 Oh, sorry.

00:37:28.000 I also want to thank you so much for coming here and being able to speak to so many students and people and general admissions and things like that.

00:37:36.000 And my question is, I definitely agree with the part of simple living and how important it is.

00:37:41.000 But as college students who are kind of involved in anything but that and living in that kind of community where it's anything but civil, simple living.

00:37:51.000 How, what first steps would you recommend students who want to kind of take that approach as their lifestyle?

00:37:58.000 What are like the first steps to that?

00:38:02.000 The first thing I would say is to start following people.

00:38:04.000 You guys are big on social media.

00:38:05.000 Start following people that do live that simple lifestyle.

00:38:07.000 Like I love following Ballerina Farm.

00:38:09.000 She's one person that I think is amazing, left the city and is pursuing a much more simple life.

00:38:13.000 The second thing that I would say is I joke when I say an apocalyptic mindset, but I don't really joke when I say that, which is to say, what could you do to support yourself?

00:38:21.000 Get involved in activities outside of the university that make you learn to grow your own food, make you learn to work with your hands, make you understand that plants are medicine, not filling in a prescription over at CVS.

00:38:32.000 You know, I don't give my kids medicine.

00:38:34.000 I'm literally a grandma from the 1940s.

00:38:36.000 I put silver on my kids.

00:38:38.000 It's amazing, and I actually understand what's in my cupboard.

00:38:40.000 I know how to use spices to make people feel better.

00:38:43.000 And this is the kind of stuff they want you to believe is backwards and is Woodcraft.

00:38:46.000 No, it's stuff that takes, removes power from them and gives power to you.

00:38:49.000 And this is why they speak so badly about it.

00:38:54.000 So that would be my advice to you right off the bat.

00:38:56.000 Thank you so much for your question.

00:38:57.000 I just have a short thing.

00:38:58.000 Honor the Sabbath.

00:38:59.000 Turn off your phone on Friday night.

00:39:01.000 Turn it back on on Sunday morning.

00:39:03.000 If you are here tonight and you are suffering from anxiety, depression, before you take antidepressant medication, try doing the one thing God told you to keep you happy and joyful.

00:39:13.000 Shutting down and resting.

00:39:14.000 Sabbath means stop.

00:39:16.000 Shabbos means stop in the ancient biblical Hebrew.

00:39:19.000 Before you all of a sudden say, I need to see all these different doctors and all this, try resting for one day.

00:39:23.000 Truly resting.

00:39:24.000 No technology, no TV, no social media.

00:39:27.000 You will be a happier person, I guarantee.

00:39:35.000 So earlier, y'all were making a lot of good points about the transgenderism problem about how that's just so out of touch with reality. 1.00

00:39:43.000 So my question, my, and then coming into this, I was thinking that's like an important thing we talk about right now, but I think 10, 15 years ago, you could have applied that same thing to gay marriage, to birth control.

00:39:53.000 Those things were just not as prevalent as they used to be.

00:39:55.000 So my question for you is, would you treat those things that have contributed to the sexual degeneracy of our colleges, especially fraternities and things like that?

00:40:04.000 Would you treat homosexuality, birth control, et cetera, with the same severity that you treat transgenderism?

00:40:12.000 When you say treat, do you mean talking about it?

00:40:15.000 Yeah, talking about it, acknowledging it.

00:40:16.000 Yeah, I mean, if anybody follows me, you guys already know what my stance is.

00:40:20.000 First off, on Big Pharma, you're talking about birth control, the culture of sex, and all the things that women are programmed to believe from a time that we're in high school.

00:40:27.000 The lie that was sold.

00:40:29.000 I talked about Thomas Soule making people believe that everybody was having sex in high school.

00:40:32.000 That was actually a planned parenthood push to get into the classrooms.

00:40:35.000 The majority of people were actually graduating with their virginity before the 1970s.

00:40:39.000 And the Department of Education pushed to make people think that sex was normal and partying and all those things were normal.

00:40:44.000 I speak a lot about abstaining from partying.

00:40:46.000 I know it's not, it seems totally unattainable.

00:40:49.000 And I definitely didn't do it when I was in school, but I talk about the culture of drinking on my podcast.

00:40:54.000 Obviously, we are both Christians, and you are correct that there is an element of, which also explains even how the rates, once we started culturally accepting being gay, that there was this explosion, which is the social contagion element that we're talking about, where people are like, well, I just want to experiment with doing this.

00:41:10.000 And the whole idea of being born gay, well, you can now show that there is a social contagion element because when you go and you look at other places around the world, it's not the same circumstance.

00:41:19.000 So America is fostering these ideas and people are making these decisions.

00:41:22.000 These aren't people that are, these are, they believe that they're their own ideas.

00:41:25.000 They believe that it is who they are, but in reality, they're victims of propaganda.

00:41:28.000 And hopefully, I definitely forcefully talk about all of those topics on my podcast.

00:41:32.000 Yeah, I'll just add one thing. 0.79

00:41:34.000 Every young girl needs to know that birth control significantly contributes to depression.

00:41:38.000 It is clinically proven.

00:41:39.000 If you don't believe me, look at the multiple peer-reviewed studies published by Dr. Daniel Amon.

00:41:45.000 You could fact-check me.

00:41:46.000 Over many decades, it shows how the pill contributes to the mental health crisis in America.

00:41:52.000 Yeah, I mean, your fertility is a gift.

00:41:54.000 Your school tries to teach you that your fertility is the enemy, that having children is the enemy, that everything is a curse.

00:41:59.000 It is the exact opposite, and I can't even get into it.

00:42:02.000 I mean, I could spend an entire night, and maybe I will come back and speak to women about the dangers of birth control. 0.92

00:42:10.000 But I'll save it for another day.

00:42:11.000 Thank you so much for your question.

00:42:13.000 Hey.

00:42:14.000 Thank you for being here tonight.

00:42:16.000 This question is directed to Mr. Kirk.

00:42:18.000 In the Gospel of St. Matthew, our Lord says, but he that shall scandalize one of these little ones that believeth in me, it were better for him that a millstone should be hanged about his neck and that he should be drowned in the depth of the sea.

00:42:31.000 So here our Lord is talking about moral actions inclusive of speech that is contrary to Christian morality and the gospel.

00:42:39.000 And he says it ought to be punished and at minimum assigned a social penalty.

00:42:44.000 So we look out today and our society is being degenerated.

00:42:48.000 We're seeing transgenderism, homosexuality, feminism, and other various social evils being promoted. 0.88

00:42:56.000 Yet conservatives continually promote this idea of free speech, which is directly allowing these things to flourish and is actually normalizing them.

00:43:05.000 So my question is, as someone that takes the Bible very seriously like yourself, why do you not believe the words of our Lord?

00:43:12.000 Why do we not punish free speech?

00:43:15.000 Because it's dragging souls to hell and it's so clearly against the Christian political order. 0.96

00:43:20.000 Well, you're putting words in my mouth, first of all.

00:43:23.000 I think that speech at its highest place should point to virtue.

00:43:27.000 So, for example, I would happily use the force of government to prevent drag queen story hour in front of children, right? 0.99

00:43:36.000 So, I encourage you not to misrepresent the position of the speaker, right?

00:43:41.000 But there's a balance.

00:43:41.000 There's a balance between expression, speech, petition against the government, and something that is obviously not speech.

00:43:49.000 So, this is where I'm more in the Saurabh Amari camp and not the David French camp.

00:43:53.000 I don't think being able to rent out a library to do predatory sexual behavior to children should be constitutionally protected speech.

00:44:01.000 The founding fathers did not have in mind, boy, we need a robust First Amendment so that a bunch of groomers can get in front of eight-year-olds.

00:44:09.000 That is not their idea of speech.

00:44:11.000 With that being said, we have to be obviously careful because when you start to overly police types of political speech against institutions or organizations, that is what the First Amendment is before.

00:44:23.000 The First Amendment allows you to complain, it allows you to challenge, it allows you to be able to organize people.

00:44:29.000 And I could say that the only reason I'm allowed to speak at University of California, Davis, is they were afraid I was going to sue them under First Amendment practices.

00:44:37.000 Where I will find agreement, because you cited one of the many times Jesus says in the New Testament about the harsh punishment of going after children, is that any conservative that uses the First Amendment flippantly while children are being abused and groomed, they have no place in the conservative movement whatsoever.

00:44:57.000 And so, I just encourage, I'll close with that.

00:45:00.000 Thank you.

00:45:00.000 Appreciate it.

00:45:06.000 What do you think of the Tennessee bill that allows clerks to refuse marriage license based on personal beliefs, particularly gay or interracial marriages?

00:45:15.000 It seems to be a clear method of forcing personal beliefs on relationships that one doesn't agree with, especially non-traditional ones.

00:45:22.000 I'm sorry, did you say the Tennessee law that?

00:45:24.000 Yeah, Tennessee law, it allows clerks to refuse issuing marriage license based on personal or religious beliefs.

00:45:31.000 I actually am not familiar with that bill at all.

00:45:33.000 And so, I would love to respond to your question, but I always say is never, I never make a habit of responding to something that I don't have in front of me and I haven't read because that's how you always get yourself into trouble.

00:45:43.000 So, you're characterizing elements of it.

00:45:44.000 It could be longer, it could mean something else.

00:45:47.000 And I genuinely have not read it, so I'm not going to be able to answer that question.

00:45:50.000 Thank you.

00:45:51.000 But thank you for the question.

00:45:52.000 All right.

00:45:52.000 Thanks.

00:45:59.000 First, nice to meet you, Charlie and Candace.

00:46:02.000 My question is: recently in East Palestine, or East Palestine, however you pronounce it.

00:46:09.000 East Palestine.

00:46:10.000 Okay.

00:46:10.000 Well, recently, you know, the train derailment and liberals aren't doing anything about it.

00:46:14.000 They're not showing support to the people, but neither are conservatives.

00:46:17.000 I mean, look at the Trump administration back.

00:46:20.000 They deregulated Norfolk Southern.

00:46:22.000 I think the corporate executives should be in prison for the rest of their lives.

00:46:26.000 Same with George Bush, by the way.

00:46:28.000 He lied about weapons of mass destruction.

00:46:30.000 He should be in prison for the rest of his life as well.

00:46:34.000 So should Obama, too.

00:46:36.000 Libya?

00:46:37.000 Libya now has slaves. 0.98

00:46:39.000 Libya has slaves. 0.99

00:46:41.000 Yeah.

00:46:42.000 So, love the spirit.

00:46:45.000 Love the candor.

00:46:46.000 Let me challenge you, though.

00:46:48.000 The specific regula.

00:46:49.000 Let me, can I, can I answer the question?

00:46:51.000 Yeah, thank you.

00:46:53.000 The specific regulation that you cited actually didn't pertain to the train derailment.

00:46:57.000 I do agree, BNSF, Burlington, Northern Santa Fe, which actually was not the railway.

00:47:02.000 It was Georgia Pacific.

00:47:03.000 Was it Georgia Pacific?

00:47:04.000 It was Georgia Pacific.

00:47:04.000 But BNSF does this all the time, too.

00:47:06.000 Was it Northrook Summon?

00:47:08.000 Northrop Summon.

00:47:09.000 Norfolk Southern.

00:47:11.000 They don't care about the people of East Palestine at all.

00:47:14.000 But I wouldn't blame the Trump administration.

00:47:15.000 The specific regulation they passed actually didn't pertain to that.

00:47:18.000 But look, I mean, there's a reason why, and this should make everyone think deeply, why are your leaders that you send to D.C., except for JD Vance, who's terrific, by the way, why are your leaders so enthusiastic and so vocal and so heated about making sure Zelensky has his money and not the people of East Palestine, Ohio?

00:47:43.000 When we say America first, we mean it. 0.65

00:47:46.000 We mean that if water is getting poisoned or citizens have their air quality put in jeopardy, that should take a higher priority than the needs, wants, and ambitions of a border dispute 5,000 miles away.

00:48:00.000 And so I find no disagreement.

00:48:02.000 Do you want to?

00:48:03.000 I totally agree with you.

00:48:04.000 I mean, it's atrocious what's happening.

00:48:06.000 And the answer to your question, Charlie, is because they have to launder the money back to themselves.

00:48:09.000 When you send it overseas, it's easier to launder back to yourselves.

00:48:13.000 It is atrocious, and you won't get an argument about us from the perspective that virtually everything the federal government touches turns to trash.

00:48:22.000 This is why we want to shrink government.

00:48:23.000 We want to shrink power out of D.C.

00:48:25.000 And there are criticisms that we could levy against the Democrats and the Republicans all day.

00:48:30.000 And a lot of times it really is a uniparty.

00:48:32.000 So you're absolutely correct.

00:48:33.000 Thank you.

00:48:34.000 We got to get to the next question.

00:48:35.000 Thank you.

00:48:40.000 So the first thing I'd like to mention is that my mother and father wanted me to say hello for them because they couldn't be here.

00:48:45.000 And they're big fans of you.

00:48:47.000 Hi, mom and dad.

00:48:48.000 Yeah.

00:48:48.000 But I'm the socialist they raised.

00:48:50.000 So I would like to ask you a question in opposition.

00:48:53.000 I was like, I'm the socialist they raised.

00:48:55.000 So I'm saying I'm asking a question in opposition.

00:48:58.000 Yeah, no worries.

00:48:59.000 Glad you're here.

00:49:00.000 It's awesome.

00:49:01.000 Thank you.

00:49:01.000 I said, how can we relativize a love for America when we have a long history of being anti-democratic overseas, being involved in coups in Chile, Guatemala that have been supported by both Democratic and Republican institutions?

00:49:14.000 Hold on.

00:49:14.000 I am, just to be clear, yeah.

00:49:18.000 Thank you.

00:49:18.000 I could tell you're a little nervous, so I'm going to restate the question.

00:49:21.000 But thank you for being here.

00:49:22.000 Did he say, how can we...

00:49:23.000 He said, how can we maintain love for America because of our anti-democratic foreign policy, in particular supporting coups in Chile, Latin America, around the world?

00:49:33.000 Did I summarize that pretty well?

00:49:35.000 I think this kind of ties back into the last answer that we just gave because that does not represent America.

00:49:40.000 That represents crooked politicians that are in D.C. that has us in endless wars, staging coups, the color revolution that we staged in Ukraine, which is absolutely what happened. 0.54

00:49:50.000 We staged a color revolution in Ukraine to insert Zelensky because politicians are corrupt in D.C.

00:49:56.000 And it is very difficult for people to differentiate what we're talking about here.

00:50:00.000 Something has gone terribly wrong in America.

00:50:02.000 That is a fact.

00:50:03.000 This is not the America that your grandparents grew up in.

00:50:05.000 That is a fact.

00:50:06.000 Something happened with these globalist initiatives, them recognizing sometime after 9-11 that they keep us in endless wars and keep sending trillions of dollars, sending our sons and daughters to go overseas.

00:50:15.000 And let me be very clear.

00:50:16.000 When I criticize this, we are not at all criticizing the people that went overseas and believed in our country and believed in our values and never could have fathomed that our government could be this crooked, this awful, this backwards, and doing this all for profit.

00:50:30.000 But that is a circumstance.

00:50:31.000 We didn't pull out of Afghanistan because Biden cares about your sons and daughters.

00:50:34.000 He pulled out of Afghanistan, in my personal opinion, because they have an incredible resource.

00:50:39.000 What's the one in batteries, not uranium?

00:50:43.000 Lithium.

00:50:44.000 Yeah.

00:50:46.000 They need for all of them.

00:50:46.000 And they're going to mine it.

00:50:47.000 And this is why they're pushing all of this ESG agenda.

00:50:51.000 It is so much more Machiavellian, like I said.

00:50:53.000 And I don't find your sentiment, what you're talking about, to be socialist at all, by the way, the question that you asked, at least.

00:50:58.000 It's a major problem.

00:51:00.000 And the only way that we're going to fix it is to disempower people in D.C.

00:51:03.000 And that is something that people on the left and the right should be agreeing and coming together on.

00:51:08.000 So can I just ask you a quick question?

00:51:11.000 So you're a socialist that is worried about some government activity.

00:51:15.000 Do you trust the government?

00:51:17.000 Not at all.

00:51:17.000 No.

00:51:18.000 Then why are you a socialist?

00:51:20.000 Well, because no, because I understand socialism not as that.

00:51:23.000 I don't understand socialism as being prost hierarchies, right?

00:51:30.000 And I think that a socialist, what they want is that you want more democracy.

00:51:34.000 You want the people to be the ones in power.

00:51:38.000 Now, they do say the dictatorship of...

00:51:39.000 Guys, guys, be nice because he really, you know, he's trying to understand it.

00:51:43.000 But I would very much say that you should study what socialism actually is.

00:51:46.000 I know what it's sold as.

00:51:47.000 I know what they bill it as, right?

00:51:49.000 I know what the bill says it's going to be amazing.

00:51:51.000 People are going to have power.

00:51:52.000 You got to check in with the Venezuelans, maybe as a starting point.

00:51:55.000 Check in with the Cubans who believed in Fidel Castro.

00:51:58.000 Check in over the last 100 years, how many people have died because they sold them a narrative.

00:52:01.000 And what really happened was the government then seized all the power from the people, promised they would redistribute it.

00:52:06.000 But it isn't what happened.

00:52:07.000 The average Venezuelan citizen has lost something like 23 pounds.

00:52:10.000 It kills every single time.

00:52:12.000 So you're probably someone that has a really big heart and you actually believe that the government has too much power.

00:52:17.000 And so you believe it when people like AOC say, we're going to fight and we're going to return power to the people.

00:52:22.000 That's not what they're going to do.

00:52:23.000 What she's doing is she's fighting for government to grow until it becomes so insurmountable that you are rendered powerless and the individual is rendered powerless.

00:52:29.000 That's what socialism actually is, not what it's billed as.

00:52:33.000 But thank you so much for your question.

00:52:35.000 I really appreciate you being here.

00:52:36.000 Thank you so much.

00:52:37.000 Thank you.

00:52:38.000 Take care.

00:52:42.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:52:43.000 Hi, Candace.

00:52:44.000 Thanks for coming out.

00:52:45.000 Hey.

00:52:46.000 I'm sort of in opposition as well.

00:52:49.000 Charlie brought up the point of neoliberalism and its impact in Ohio, particularly with the issue of you pointed out immigration as one of the most one of the more prominent consequences of neoliberalism and the reforms that happened in the time period, let's say around 1990s, 2000s.

00:53:11.000 Yep, certainly up to the modern.

00:53:13.000 Bill Clinton signing in the National Immigration Act in 91.

00:53:16.000 But I would say one aspect that I believe that you're missing in neoliberalism, which is fundamental to neoliberalism, is deregulation.

00:53:24.000 Deregulation to multinationals, deregulation in labor protection and protections under conditions of the workers, and the extraction of resources in the third world, because most of these companies, because of these neoliberal policies, went overseas.

00:53:44.000 That's where all the jobs went.

00:53:46.000 They went to mostly the third world in China and Mexico.

00:53:50.000 And yet what we see here is not an exact critique of that from the conservative viewpoint because you guys put a lot of emphasis on deregulation and a lot of support towards it, despite the fact that is what's elemental to neoliberalism and the developments that happened in the last 30 years.

00:54:11.000 So my question would be, from the conservative standpoint, does there have to be a reassessment of how to approach deregulation from a conservative and a capitalist perspective?

00:54:27.000 Yeah, so actually, I see it differently.

00:54:29.000 I think that some of our dumb regulation actually encouraged our companies to go overseas, is that we regulated our small and medium-sized businesses so heavily that when Deloitte showed up and they said, hey, I can make this trinket in mainland China for pennies on a dollar.

00:54:45.000 And meanwhile, they have to fight the EPA, the Employment Prevention Agency, and they have to fight the IRS and they have to fight all these different government agencies.

00:54:54.000 The Leviathan, the fourth branch of government, the bureaucracy, basically made the business owners' decision easier to go overseas.

00:55:01.000 Did they make the right decision?

00:55:03.000 Probably not for the country.

00:55:05.000 They might have made it for their bottom line.

00:55:07.000 Depends on what regulation you're talking about.

00:55:09.000 But remember this.

00:55:10.000 Don't paint too broad of a brush because the biggest pushers of regulation in America are the companies you hate the most.

00:55:17.000 Big companies are the ones that are asking for regulation.

00:55:19.000 You might say, well, how is that possible?

00:55:21.000 Because they can afford it.

00:55:22.000 They have the tax firms.

00:55:23.000 They have the in-house counsel.

00:55:24.000 They have the accountants.

00:55:26.000 $200 million a year to Facebook of extra regulation is nothing.

00:55:30.000 But it is something to a competitor to Facebook.

00:55:32.000 It is something to somebody that might want to go up against Facebook.

00:55:36.000 So look, you need some regulation. 0.97

00:55:37.000 It needs to be smart, not dumb.

00:55:39.000 But generally, in the last 20 or 30 years, I think that we threw too much government power, too much government scrutiny, too many audits at our entrepreneurs, our small businesses that actually made re-domiciling and offshoring our jobs too easy.

00:55:54.000 Thank you for your question.

00:55:58.000 Hi.

00:56:00.000 So my question is, you guys were discussing blue-collar workers and how they have a lot of wisdom, which I certainly agree with.

00:56:06.000 I'm sure they do have a lot of wisdom.

00:56:08.000 However, your guys' perspective more so sounded like they essentially have more wisdom or more knowledge than someone in academia.

00:56:16.000 And my question is, why do you guys believe that blue-collar workers and people in these laborist jobs have more knowledge than someone in academia?

00:56:25.000 And is that rooted or what?

00:56:28.000 How is that factually rooted?

00:56:30.000 So I guess I would say, rather than saying wisdom, I would say that they have more real-world value and currency than somebody who's writing papers trying to transform the world from a classroom.

00:56:42.000 And I genuinely believe that.

00:56:44.000 I believe that there is more value in learning to work with your hands.

00:56:47.000 There's more value in learning how to raise productive human beings. 0.62

00:56:50.000 I hate the fact that women are being sold a bill of lies and being told that we should be competing with men and wanting to run executives of Fortune 500 companies.

00:56:59.000 I believe that we absolutely flourish in our feminine roles and that the toughest job in the world is being a stay-at-home mom and raising good children.

00:57:08.000 So to me, when we shifted those values and we stopped realizing that these people actually have the most value in society, we watched our social decline begin.

00:57:21.000 And we have essentially been within a managed social decline for the last 60 years, in my opinion.

00:57:27.000 I would add to that.

00:57:29.000 Anyone has to take a sociology class or anthropology class here?

00:57:33.000 Yeah.

00:57:34.000 Have a kid.

00:57:36.000 You'll learn a lot more about human beings than anything a textbook could teach you.

00:57:39.000 100% true.

00:57:40.000 Experience always is going to override what you can learn in the book.

00:57:43.000 By the way, I would say you conflated two words, knowledge and wisdom.

00:57:46.000 They're not the same thing.

00:57:47.000 There's a lot of knowledge here at Ohio State University.

00:57:50.000 There's not a lick of wisdom in most of these classrooms.

00:57:53.000 And what is the difference?

00:57:55.000 Very simple.

00:57:56.000 Knowledge is practical.

00:57:58.000 How do you develop a medication?

00:58:01.000 How do you navigate it?

00:58:02.000 Build a house.

00:58:03.000 Build a house.

00:58:04.000 That's fine.

00:58:04.000 Knowledge is important.

00:58:06.000 Wisdom tells you whether or not you should do it.

00:58:08.000 Wisdom is eternal.

00:58:10.000 Wisdom does not change.

00:58:11.000 Wisdom is the knowledge of things that will be true 200 years from now, and they were true 500 years before, because you're dealing with the same raw material.

00:58:18.000 Human beings do not change.

00:58:19.000 We are broken from nature, and it takes effort to create good people.

00:58:22.000 The reason why college campuses are devoid of wisdom is because the beginning of wisdom is the fear of the Lord.

00:58:28.000 Thank you so much.

00:58:31.000 Thank you so much for your question.

00:58:34.000 Next question.

00:58:38.000 Hello, you guys look wonderful tonight.

00:58:40.000 My name is David.

00:58:41.000 Thank you.

00:58:41.000 You look wonderful too.

00:58:42.000 Thank you.

00:58:44.000 My question is: with our founding fathers being lawyers and educated men, is their academia and ideologies just as destructive as those you've discussed?

00:58:53.000 Furthermore, what about Herodotus, Socrates, and Aristotle?

00:58:56.000 Well, no, they were classically educated.

00:58:58.000 Like John Adams spoke fluent Hebrew.

00:59:01.000 He also, the founding fathers, believed the Bible was the greatest book ever to exist in the history of the world.

00:59:07.000 The most cited book, secular or otherwise, was not John Locke.

00:59:11.000 It was not Montesquieu.

00:59:12.000 It was not David Hume.

00:59:13.000 Was the book of Deuteronomy in the Federalist Papers and the documents that led up to our founding?

00:59:19.000 The founding fathers, when they put the Liberty Bell, they put Leviticus 25 on it.

00:59:24.000 Leviticus, not Psalms, not Proverbs, not John, Leviticus.

00:59:29.000 Okay?

00:59:29.000 These are serious Bible believers that understood the foundational roots of a civilization.

00:59:35.000 How many college professors here would quote Leviticus to their students in a positive way?

00:59:40.000 What does classically trained mean?

00:59:42.000 Herodotus was the founder of history.

00:59:45.000 Socrates invented the classical dialogue and the idea of the pursuit of truth.

00:59:49.000 Classical education believes in three things: goodness, beauty, and virtue.

00:59:53.000 There's something high, and we should aim for it.

00:59:56.000 That we have a soul, that there's an eternal component to our existence that is more than material matter, and that we as a human being, it's going to take work and effort, but we can aim high, point high, and we can be better tomorrow than we are today.

01:00:07.000 The educational manifesto today is opposite.

01:00:10.000 They say you're nothing more than a combination of chemicals and matter that have accidentally combusted into where you are today through a Darwinian process, and there is no beauty, there is no goodness, there is no virtue, there is no truth.

01:00:21.000 The founding fathers were proper academics.

01:00:24.000 The ones today are charlatans disguised as academics.

01:00:29.000 So well said. 0.94

01:00:30.000 So well said. 1.00

01:00:34.000 I'm never sorry in front of two future U.S. presidents, but I wanted to ask and hear both your opponent's views, especially towards Candace, but you know how they pushed the sexual liberation agenda? 0.99

01:00:48.000 What's going on? 1.00

01:00:49.000 Sexual what agenda? 0.67

01:00:50.000 Sexual liberation agenda?

01:00:51.000 Liberation, yeah. 0.95

01:00:52.000 Oh, yeah.

01:00:52.000 Okay.

01:00:53.000 What's your take on a young lady who got pregnant and the man who got her pregnant tells her to abort the baby because he doesn't care for the kid and doesn't know what to be in that kid's life?

01:01:00.000 She has no family, no help, and she wants to focus on school in her career.

01:01:04.000 Is it best for her to get rid of the kid or focus on herself and having a family later down the road?

01:01:08.000 Because if she has that kid, that child's going to be a burden upon her.

01:01:12.000 Did you catch it?

01:01:12.000 Do you want me to repeat it?

01:01:14.000 Yeah, I can repeat it.

01:01:15.000 So I think you're giving us a scenario of somebody who's pregnant with a kid.

01:01:19.000 Is this the Ohio situation of the young lady that went to Indiana to get the abortion, or are you just talking more generally?

01:01:25.000 You're talking generally.

01:01:26.000 And you're saying that if the kid was born, they would be ill-advantaged.

01:01:29.000 Is that what you're asking that?

01:01:30.000 And your end question is, what should they do?

01:01:32.000 Yeah, what should she do? 1.00

01:01:33.000 She should just like abortion fix, basically. 1.00

01:01:36.000 You should absolutely choose life.

01:01:38.000 It's such a scary thing to me to think.

01:01:43.000 And actually, who was it that said, I think it was Ronald Reagan, you know, everybody who argues for abortion has already been born, right?

01:01:50.000 Which the many examples, and this is what is so problematic about the argument of people that are pro-choice, is that it ignores all of the people that grew up in broken homes and made something of themselves, people who were adopted, people that grew up in group homes, what they were able to contribute to society.

01:02:05.000 It basically says the argument that unless your life is rosy, unless you have a rosy start, then you don't have a right to life and your life is not worth living.

01:02:13.000 And that could not be more wrong and more backwards.

01:02:15.000 It's so wrong.

01:02:18.000 I especially, you guys obviously know a lot about my upbringing.

01:02:21.000 Like my story is one that I hope serves as an example when people read it of what can happen when you triumph your idea, this idea of victimhood, when you realize that you're not a victim and that you are always in the driver's seat of your own life and you can be a victor.

01:02:34.000 Everybody, by the way, has terrible things that happen in their lives.

01:02:37.000 Don't believe that because you see somebody and they grew up and they're super wealthy that they don't have issues or people that actually, I personally find that the wealthiest kids are the most effed up personally with life, right?

01:02:48.000 And for people to not even have the opportunity to try because somebody has sentenced them to death and said, your life is not worth living because you don't have a father that loves you or a mother that wants you, it deeply saddens me.

01:03:01.000 It's so backwards.

01:03:03.000 It is so antithetical to everything that we believe as conservatives.

01:03:06.000 If you meet a conservative that says, well, I'm a little flimsy on the life stuff, they don't know what it means to be a conservative.

01:03:12.000 Fundamentally, at our core, is that we believe in life, right?

01:03:15.000 We believe in life and the right to life.

01:03:18.000 And so, absolutely, in every scenario, I would choose life over and over again.

01:03:23.000 And let me tell you, just as someone who has had a child, your life begins.

01:03:27.000 If you think in a moment while you're pregnant that it may be a burden and you may be fearful, when you have that child, you will realize that life begins when you become a mother or a father.

01:03:38.000 It is the most beautiful, wonderful chapter of anybody's life, no matter how difficult it may be.

01:03:44.000 I do not believe there's a thing as an unwanted child in America.

01:03:48.000 There's a million abortions in America every single year, about 3,000 a day.

01:03:51.000 And there's twice as many people than that on the adoption waiting list.

01:03:56.000 So, if every single person who had an abortion had that baby and put them up for adoption, they could all be put up and adopted twice over in America. 0.83

01:04:03.000 There's no such thing as an unwanted child in America.

01:04:05.000 Thank you.

01:04:10.000 Hey.

01:04:11.000 Hi.

01:04:12.000 So, I have a disagreement with your guys taking Ukraine.

01:04:16.000 As I understand it, your position is that it's really expensive.

01:04:20.000 We shouldn't be sending all this money, and it's also none of our business, right?

01:04:24.000 I disagree with that because, one, I think it's morally right, but also, even from a national interest standpoint, right?

01:04:30.000 That money, you know, Ukrainians have definitely done a lot, but that money has helped them embarrass Russia on a national stage, right? 0.62

01:04:38.000 Like before, we believe that they are a big power, and now they've embarrassed themselves.

01:04:43.000 And also, I think that Western solidarity is really important, right?

01:04:47.000 I mean, like, especially with China eyeing Taiwan, we need to show them internationally that we're a solified force.

01:04:54.000 They can't just go and take it.

01:04:56.000 We need to show that we can defend.

01:04:58.000 So, we're spending trillions of dollars to embarrass Russia. 0.85

01:05:01.000 That's a little bit of embarrassment.

01:05:04.000 Is that what we're trying to do?

01:05:05.000 You think that we should be recycling millions of dollars and having millions of dollars disappear into thin air so that we can say, ooh, look, Vladimir Putin is embarrassed.

01:05:12.000 And if by embarrassed, you mean shaking hands with Xi Xinping, talking about how things are going to change and that the next 100 years are not going to look like the last 100 years, then you are not paying attention to what is going on.

01:05:24.000 We have just pushed Vladimir Putin into the arms of China, right? 0.93

01:05:31.000 One of our greatest, the greatest competitors that we possibly have is China. 1.00

01:05:34.000 They're shaking hands, they're openly mocking the West.

01:05:37.000 This has never happened before, right?

01:05:39.000 They think the West is a joke, and why shouldn't they? 0.95

01:05:42.000 Look at us, we're having debates about gender.

01:05:44.000 We don't know what a woman is, okay? 1.00

01:05:47.000 Hollywood, we think that it's cool to have Zelensky make attendances at the Grammys.

01:05:52.000 It's a joke, it's a complete and utter joke.

01:05:55.000 So, no, first and foremost, we talked about national interest.

01:05:58.000 National interests require that it was in our nation or it impacts us.

01:06:01.000 It's not my effing business what happens in the Eastern Corridor while we have real Americans that are suffering today.

01:06:06.000 And if you notice, it's been non-stop wars that we haven't lost.

01:06:13.000 You want to talk about embarrassment?

01:06:14.000 Try leaving billions of dollars of technology in Afghanistan after spending decades fighting.

01:06:21.000 That's embarrassment.

01:06:22.000 That's embarrassment.

01:06:24.000 What's embarrassing is China then flying immediately after we magically evacuate and meeting with the Taliban and immediately recognizing them as a government. 0.95

01:06:32.000 We had daughters and our sons that died.

01:06:34.000 What did we win?

01:06:35.000 What about those weapons of mass destruction?

01:06:37.000 Was this the 20th anniversary of Iraq?

01:06:39.000 You want to talk about embarrassment, the things that we did in Iraq, the things that we've done all across the world, and for what?

01:06:45.000 What do you have to show for it?

01:06:46.000 Well, I guess we embarrassed a few people while we had people, we were sending Americans over to die. 1.00

01:06:52.000 At least we were able to embarrass a few people in the process.

01:06:55.000 That's not a good way to think.

01:06:56.000 I'm going to tell you right now.

01:06:57.000 That's not a good way to think.

01:06:58.000 We should think about prioritizing all of the issues that we have in America.

01:07:02.000 You want to talk about an invasion?

01:07:03.000 Let's talk about the one that's happening at our border every single day.

01:07:10.000 That's what we mean when we say America first. 0.72

01:07:13.000 Okay?

01:07:14.000 We have plenty of issues to solve.

01:07:15.000 Not a single bread cent should be sent overseas until we fix what's happening here in the United States.

01:07:20.000 Thank you for your question.

01:07:23.000 I'll add one thing, just Candace makes a fabulous point that needs to be repeated and repeated. 1.00

01:07:29.000 A country that cannot determine what a woman is should not go to war. 1.00

01:07:33.000 How embarrassing.

01:07:35.000 This is a general rule for conflict.

01:07:39.000 If you have a domestic crisis where you are not able to agree on basic truths, you are not a nation ready to go free.

01:07:47.000 China's writing articles.

01:07:48.000 Their newspaper, they're literally writing articles mocking America about how we don't know what bathroom to go into, right?

01:07:54.000 About how we sent the full force of the military to shoot down a hobby lobby balloon, right?

01:07:59.000 If you think that we, that the embarrassment that Russia is embarrassed, you haven't been paying attention to what's happening in America.

01:08:05.000 Honestly, we become a mock.

01:08:07.000 We're being mocked in the Eastern Corridor.

01:08:10.000 And I'll go even a step further.

01:08:11.000 It's a tragic geopolitical mistake that Russia is not neutral, if not an ally with us against the Chinese Communist Party.

01:08:18.000 All this saber rattling that it's the Cold War in Russia against us.

01:08:23.000 It didn't have to be this way.

01:08:24.000 Donald Trump.

01:08:25.000 It's a Cold War hangover.

01:08:25.000 It's Cold War hangover.

01:08:27.000 Donald Trump had it in the right position.

01:08:28.000 The Chinese Communist Party is the great threat against the West and American liberty, and now they have a gas station. 1.00

01:08:34.000 The Chinese Communist Party now has more oil reserves than they know what to do with in a great super alliance that we helped create.

01:08:42.000 Please study the pipelines.

01:08:43.000 Really understand.

01:08:44.000 It really understands.

01:08:45.000 This is not about scoring points.

01:08:46.000 This is not about running an article in CNN and Washington Post saying, oh, look, we embarrassed.

01:08:50.000 You need to study the map of the pipelines and understand exactly what he is talking about when he is saying the threat of an alliance between Russia and China.

01:08:58.000 They don't care about some points on the board saying, oh, look, it's so serious.

01:09:02.000 We are in such a severe state right now.

01:09:04.000 When I say it is managed social decline, managed political decline, we are no longer being taken seriously on the world stage.

01:09:11.000 When I watched, I think it was Russia Today, a clip that my executive producers pulled of them openly laughing and mocking the American military.

01:09:20.000 Unfathomable, even four years ago when Trump was in office.

01:09:24.000 Unfathomable.

01:09:24.000 They're openly mocking us.

01:09:26.000 They don't take the West seriously because why should we be taking seriously? 0.99

01:09:29.000 We're arguing over bathroom signs over here.

01:09:32.000 Thank you.

01:09:32.000 Got to get to the next question.

01:09:33.000 Thanks for being here.

01:09:36.000 Oh, my.

01:09:37.000 It's like, it's like a very scary thing that's happening.

01:09:39.000 I don't think people understand the significance of what's happening in the Eastern Corridor right now.

01:09:43.000 Yep.

01:09:44.000 So let's be shut down whole churches.

01:09:48.000 Not all of them.

01:09:48.000 Yeah, he's so not aligned with Western principles.

01:09:52.000 Everything he's doing, locking up his political opponents, that's something he's definitely doing.

01:09:55.000 He did shut down the Russian Orthodox Church, not all the churches.

01:09:58.000 Okay, we'll get to a question here.

01:10:01.000 Hi, this is directed more towards Candace than anyone.

01:10:05.000 I've heard a lot about you.

01:10:07.000 Haven't really went to an event like this in general.

01:10:10.000 I get the point that you're not really well liked specifically with the black community.

01:10:15.000 But one thing I wanted to, one thing I wanted to address was growing up socially, a lot of black people around me at least were conservative.

01:10:26.000 They went to church every Sunday.

01:10:28.000 They were very religious.

01:10:29.000 They weren't a biggest fan of LGBT.

01:10:31.000 That's just how they were.

01:10:32.000 What do you think is stopping them from being in this room?

01:10:36.000 Culture.

01:10:37.000 That's the truth.

01:10:39.000 Black America has faced a full cultural decline before everybody else. 0.79

01:10:42.000 I actually believe that the government experimented first with black Americans, LBJ and the Great Society Act, to see how they could completely annihilate, obliterate the black family, and make the black family worship not God. 0.91

01:10:54.000 We used to be at the center of all families in America and is no longer at, but worship government and more governance.

01:11:00.000 Welfarism destroyed black America and it created the toxic culture that we see today. 1.00

01:11:04.000 Every single ill that black America is facing.

01:11:06.000 They are facing because we went from a 22% single motherhood rate back in 1964 to today, the single motherhood rate being 73%.

01:11:15.000 We don't have our families together.

01:11:16.000 73, more than 73% of black Americans are growing up without a father in the home.

01:11:21.000 So you could just imagine what that does when I say that every social ill follows, the incarceration rates, the incriminality rates.

01:11:28.000 And what happens, by the way, is that when you remove that family unit, it's not like they just go, okay, no family.

01:11:34.000 It becomes an empty space and they fill that void with something else. 0.73

01:11:37.000 And that's something else for Black America has been a toxic culture. 1.00

01:11:40.000 They turn to rappers, they turn to the streets, they pursue that paternity and that maternity elsewhere. 0.93

01:11:46.000 And this is the huge epidemic that we're facing today.

01:11:49.000 It is the reason why they believe that they have to be Democrats is because Hollywood insists upon being a Democrat.

01:11:56.000 Now I want to be an open conservative in Hollywood.

01:11:58.000 Well, if Hollywood and what's on the TV is raising you, then that's the only option you've ever been presented with.

01:12:03.000 You couple that with the other pillar, which is the education system, also decisively Democrat, decisively left-leaning, specifically because their initiative is to further marry you to government.

01:12:14.000 The Department of Education was created in the 1970s and with the explicit goal to make sure that people that are growing up under the Department of Education, all of us, believe that governance can deliver us from everything and it's working.

01:12:27.000 So they destroyed the family, they attacked culture, and then they went toward the educational pillar. 0.96

01:12:34.000 And that is the predicament that you see across black Americans.

01:12:37.000 I try to fight all of those pillars in every single capacity.

01:12:40.000 And the easiest way to fight the cultural one is to simply say on a stage every single day that black people don't have to be Democrats.

01:12:47.000 So that's it.

01:12:48.000 You know, give another option.

01:12:50.000 Thank you.

01:12:51.000 Thank you so much for your respectful question.

01:12:55.000 And join Blexit, Blexit.com.

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01:13:02.000 Beautiful.

01:13:03.000 Next question.

01:13:04.000 Hello.

01:13:04.000 Thank you for both being here.

01:13:06.000 I'm coming to you as a wife, an entrepreneur, but mostly important, and most importantly, a mother.

01:13:12.000 My younger elementary school son came back from school last year about a book that he read in the public library about how a boy could be a girl, like a colorful child book.

01:13:23.000 And I'm getting emotional over it because as a mother, how do you combat this?

01:13:28.000 Or how do you look at your son and explain to him these huge moments when your six-year-old and five-year-old is looking at you asking all these questions like mother to mother?

01:13:39.000 I guess I'm just coming for advice at this point.

01:13:42.000 Well, mother to mother, I can't wait till my child is of the school age because I'm going to raise hell.

01:13:48.000 I hear these things and I get excited.

01:13:51.000 I get excited when I hear these things.

01:13:53.000 I really do.

01:13:54.000 Try it on my kids.

01:13:55.000 I mean, people don't understand.

01:13:57.000 When I say that I'm a mother bear, try it on my kids.

01:13:59.000 If you want to watch me breathe actual fire from my mouth, try it on my kids. 1.00

01:14:05.000 And that is the attitude that every single mother needs to have.

01:14:08.000 We need to adopt the attitude of recognizing this was ever intentional by design to remove parents, remove mothers from being the CEO of their homes, transferring them to the workforce so that the government, the Department of Education, could raise your children and indoctrinate them. 0.73

01:14:21.000 The only way that you're going to reverse that is to fight it head on.

01:14:24.000 They were scared.

01:14:25.000 When mothers began showing up at school board meetings, they didn't know what to do, right?

01:14:28.000 They had never seen it before. 0.78

01:14:30.000 Mothers didn't go to school board meetings. 1.00

01:14:31.000 What do you mean, moms have to work a nine-to-five job like dad? 1.00

01:14:34.000 They don't like that we're starting to pay attention. 0.78

01:14:36.000 I quite literally, oh my goodness, when my kids go to school, I'm going to be in that principal's office so much.

01:14:41.000 I'm like, what are we wearing today?

01:14:42.000 What are we wearing for school?

01:14:43.000 Because I'm not going to let it fly a single moment. 0.79

01:14:45.000 Again, this is when I am calling upon mothers to act like Karens. 0.98

01:14:49.000 If it is, it is up to us. 0.90

01:14:51.000 We become, women become the CIA, the FBI. 0.99

01:14:53.000 Let you want to find one detail about a guy on Instagram. 0.84

01:14:56.000 You know how it is, girls.

01:14:57.000 So I'll be like, actually, his sister likes to golf. 1.00

01:15:00.000 We need to employ those skills of uniquely set up skills that women have, and we need to give them to our children, and we need to use them to exercise dominion over our children. 1.00

01:15:10.000 We're fighting right now a custody battle over our children with the state every single day.

01:15:17.000 So you need to not get upset.

01:15:19.000 You need to channel that upset, and you need to make sure that you affect change.

01:15:23.000 Become problematic for that school in saying that I'm not going to allow this to slide.

01:15:27.000 I'm going to make sure that this is okay.

01:15:28.000 I'm going to network with other parents, and I'm going to raise hell until the situation changes.

01:15:34.000 It must change, and I think it's going to begin to change.

01:15:35.000 So I'm starting to see mothers realize what's actually happening.

01:15:38.000 Thank you.

01:15:39.000 We got to get to the next question.

01:15:40.000 Thank you.

01:15:42.000 Hi, guys.

01:15:43.000 How are you?

01:15:44.000 Hi.

01:15:45.000 So, first and foremost, I'd like to say I'd love to meet you guys again later down the line because as a great, as sorry, I'm nervous.

01:15:53.000 I got to go to the bathroom.

01:15:56.000 Always makes it worse, you know?

01:15:58.000 Right. 0.84

01:15:59.000 I always make liberals' heads explode. 0.96

01:16:01.000 I always, and I'm about to make conservatives' heads explode because I'm a gay Christian, you know, and I'd love to debate you guys one day about that. 0.55

01:16:09.000 But why I can never be a liberal is because I can never support a socialist and Marxist agenda that's happening in our country.

01:16:17.000 And so, my question is, looking upon the midterms, looking upon, you know, Republicans should have really steamrolled Sleepy Joe and his horrible agenda.

01:16:26.000 But in my opinion, we didn't do that.

01:16:29.000 So, in your guys' opinion, I would like to say, how do you think Republicans and conservatives should message to a younger base, younger voters, and try to show them the evils of what socialism and Marxism truly is?

01:16:41.000 Thank you.

01:16:42.000 So, I'm not, I don't want to debate you, but I want to encourage you because you believe in Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, right?

01:16:48.000 Okay.

01:16:49.000 So, regardless of your own personal desires or activities, I encourage you not to put the word gay in front of Christian.

01:16:57.000 Just say you're a Christian.

01:16:59.000 It's actually not totally relevant.

01:17:01.000 Now, you might say that you're engaging in certain behaviors or activities.

01:17:04.000 Let me tell you why, because I actually think it compromises what Christianity is and should be. 0.82

01:17:11.000 So, you might be engaging in a certain lifestyle that I don't think is biblically based, but I wouldn't combine those two words together.

01:17:18.000 Okay?

01:17:20.000 Let me just say that.

01:17:21.000 I would encourage you to stop doing that.

01:17:22.000 Okay?

01:17:24.000 Second thing.

01:17:25.000 As far as how do we prevent people from Marxism and all that other stuff, Candace, do you have a thought on that?

01:17:30.000 I'm sorry.

01:17:31.000 I know I don't remember the question because I was listening to you.

01:17:33.000 Sorry, what was the tail end of your question?

01:17:36.000 I know.

01:17:37.000 It's a lot for you.

01:17:37.000 I know you got a pee.

01:17:39.000 He's like, I got a pee.

01:17:41.000 I'm fine standing alone.

01:17:43.000 No, you're fine.

01:17:45.000 I'm glad that you're here today.

01:17:47.000 I would love to debate you guys again another time.

01:17:49.000 I'm not here to debate.

01:17:50.000 I'm just encouraging you not to use those two words.

01:17:52.000 But what was the actual end of that question?

01:17:54.000 Do we have a couple more questions?

01:17:55.000 Republicans did not do well in the midterms.

01:17:57.000 I think we could all agree.

01:17:58.000 And from the last two years, from since Joe Biden's got into office, it's been disaster after disaster after disaster.

01:18:05.000 Republicans should have steamrolled Joe Biden and his horrible Congress in the midterms.

01:18:10.000 That did not happen.

01:18:11.000 It's clear that the messaging from the Republican base is not working, especially with young voters.

01:18:16.000 How can they do that to change it around?

01:18:19.000 Yeah, and so not to answer it politically, because we want to try to stay away from just R versus D stuff, but more generally this.

01:18:25.000 Look, young people need to be given a promise by three things from their leaders, okay?

01:18:29.000 Make it easier to get married, have kids, and buy property.

01:18:31.000 Those three things are currently out of grasp for most young people in America.

01:18:36.000 Conservatives running for office, conservatives in public life should say the new social contract is very simple.

01:18:41.000 We want to be able to make it not just easy, but popular to get married, easy to have children, and we want everyone to be able to own a home the same way your parents did.

01:18:48.000 That is out of grasp, and it's creating revolutionaries.

01:18:51.000 It's creating cynicism.

01:18:52.000 It's creating disconnectedness from the actual established political order.

01:18:56.000 I think that's one good way to start.

01:18:57.000 And I'm a contrarian.

01:18:59.000 Think that the more we lean into these issues, the more that we actually push back against the left, the more we're going to win people over.

01:19:06.000 I think that it's people that run for the hills and are afraid to engage on the trans issue and the abortion issue and the border issue.

01:19:12.000 I think people want clarity, not pandering.

01:19:15.000 They want courage, not cowardice.

01:19:17.000 And we need also to have candidates that run for office that understand how to communicate these issues and these values and these ideas.

01:19:24.000 And finally, I think it's pretty popular with younger voters to say that we're going to put you first, not the needs, wants, or interests of foreign citizens coming in to come take your jobs or send money overseas to Ukraine.

01:19:36.000 Thank you.

01:19:37.000 Thanks so much for your question.

01:19:39.000 Last but not least.

01:19:42.000 Hi, this is more for Candace.

01:19:44.000 I've been listening to you and Ben Shapiro specifically for at least three years, and you guys have inspired me and just really enlightened me about a lot of things.

01:19:53.000 And that segues me into my question.

01:19:55.000 I am actually a sophomore in high school.

01:19:57.000 Wow, first off, a round of applause here.

01:19:59.000 That is epic.

01:20:03.000 I think you just made my night.

01:20:05.000 That's very encouraging.

01:20:06.000 Thank you.

01:20:07.000 So I'm in the thicket of the indoctrination, and I see it firsthand.

01:20:11.000 And a lot of times people talk about what is happening and what they're saying.

01:20:15.000 But I guess my question to you is: how would you combat them?

01:20:20.000 So it's very, it's very tricky.

01:20:21.000 You know, we get tons of requests, and people are always like, oh, there needs to be a turning point president in high school.

01:20:25.000 There can't be a turning point presence really fully in high school or Blexit president in high school because high schools, unfortunately, minors are in high school.

01:20:33.000 Which brings me to the answer to your question.

01:20:35.000 I think it is so important for parents to be in lockstep.

01:20:39.000 And this goes back to my question about me answering and saying that I'm going to be at this high school every single day, at the middle school every single day.

01:20:45.000 I think students like you really need to have the backing of their parents to know that they can push back against educators in a respectful way.

01:20:53.000 You know, you don't need to raise hell as a student because you also don't want to make yourself.

01:20:57.000 I get emails all the time from students that are in high school, you know, that say, I said your name during Black History Month and my teacher said that they wouldn't put it on the board and things of that nature.

01:21:07.000 And when that sort of thing happens, I actually get involved.

01:21:10.000 When I get these emails, I will email the administration.

01:21:12.000 I will email with their parents because their parents are on the emails and I get involved.

01:21:16.000 I actually think that it's almost more impactful when you're younger to call out that indoctrination and to call it out in a powerful way and to speak to an administrator because that administrator is going to have that fear that a minor is uncomfortable with the way that something is happening in the school system, right?

01:21:31.000 And that's a health, that's a healthy fear for them to have, right?

01:21:34.000 You don't want to have a bunch of minors saying that they are feeling discriminated against.

01:21:38.000 So I would use that to your potential.

01:21:40.000 I would speak with the administration.

01:21:41.000 I would raise flags on teachers and do this completely in lockstep with your parents.

01:21:46.000 I hope that your parents support you.

01:21:48.000 I'm assuming that they do.

01:21:49.000 Do this in lockstep with your parents because they'll be able to take it further if the issue does need to be elevated.

01:21:54.000 Your parents will be able to take it further than you do.

01:21:56.000 And look, you have a remarkable head start in life.

01:21:59.000 It is so hard the indoctrination that you're going to go through, but I can tell you that you obviously have a very good head on your shoulders.

01:22:04.000 And when you get into college, you're going to, let me look around.

01:22:07.000 You're going to have so many people, an entire community that you can fight with just as hard.

01:22:12.000 So, you know, give it time and know that you are exactly doing the right thing the most that you can right now.

01:22:20.000 It was so nice to meet you.

01:22:23.000 And start a turning point chapter at your local high school.

01:22:29.000 Yeah.

01:22:29.000 No, we have more high school chapters than college chapters at Turning Point USA now.

01:22:33.000 Yeah.

01:22:34.000 The high school department.

01:22:34.000 But we never speak in high schools because it's hard.

01:22:37.000 It's a little bit harder.

01:22:38.000 Yeah, you got to deal with a lot of administration and the thicket there.

01:22:42.000 A couple closing thoughts, everybody.

01:22:44.000 Candace, first, any closing thoughts?

01:22:46.000 No, you know, just to encourage you to make sure that you never get trodden down, that you never think that it's all doom and gloom.

01:22:53.000 It isn't.

01:22:54.000 I know that we are in a tough spot in America.

01:22:56.000 I recognize that.

01:22:56.000 And these issues that we're talking about, as I said, are unfathomable.

01:23:00.000 But when I say to you that I wake up every single morning optimistic because I realize how angry the left has become, which lets me know that we are closer to our goal, and that we are actually seeing a cultural shift, that we are taking down the false idols that are talking about extensively in the Bible of why idolatry in Hollywood.

01:23:17.000 Hollywood is not in the Bible, but we talk about false idols and idolatry and why it's wrong.

01:23:22.000 We are seeing the collapse of that.

01:23:24.000 And so when we ever do an event, I always want people to walk out and I want them to feel optimistic that wholesomeness is making a return, that holiness is making a return, and that it's thanks to all the people in this room.

01:23:36.000 And I feel remarkably blessed that I've been able to do what I've been doing for the last seven years.

01:23:40.000 And it's thanks to every single person in this room that has supported me.

01:23:43.000 So from the bottom of my heart, thank you for allowing me to do what I love and what I believe in.

01:23:49.000 Really quick, get involved.

01:23:51.000 Danny, you're doing a great job.

01:23:52.000 The Turning Point USA chapter here at OSU.

01:23:56.000 Yeah.

01:23:57.000 I have a subscribe to both Candace and I's podcast.

01:24:01.000 You can check out your podcast app.

01:24:03.000 Take out your phone and subscribe.

01:24:04.000 We're selling books for a donation of any amount outside if you guys want to do that.

01:24:08.000 I have a personal request, a very important personal request for all of you.

01:24:12.000 Can you please beat Michigan next year?

01:24:14.000 What is this all about?

01:24:15.000 Okay.

01:24:18.000 And there's this one last thing we have to do, which is OH.

01:24:23.000 God bless you guys.

01:24:24.000 Thank you so much.

01:24:25.000 Thank you guys.

01:24:29.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

01:24:31.000 Email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:24:34.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

01:24:39.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk. com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - March 25, 2023

Every Bad Idea Comes from a College: Live on Stage at OSU with Candace Owens

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