The Charlie Kirk Show - Every State is a Border State Now with Sen. JD Vance and Peter Schweizer

00:00:00.000 I'm Alex Marlowe, editor-in-chief of Breitbart News.

00:00:02.000 And on this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show, we talked to Peter Schweitzer, who is a prolific author, president of the Government Accountability Institute, a senior contributor to Breitbart News.

00:00:12.000 And he breaks down everything in the Biden crime family that has been reported in recent days and what he is anticipating is coming over the horizon.

00:00:22.000 He connects a lot of the dots for us in terms of the latest investigations, and you're not going to want to miss his assessment of all of them.

00:00:29.000 Then we talk to JD Vance, who is a senator from Ohio, but also one of the more forward-thinking populist nationalist conservatives out there.

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00:01:49.000 Peter Schweitzer is on with me.

00:01:51.000 He is senior contributor for Breitbart News, president of the Government Accountability Institute.

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00:02:03.000 Peter, what's up?

00:02:04.000 Good morning.

00:02:05.000 Hey, Alex, it's great to be with you.

00:02:07.000 How you doing?

00:02:08.000 Peter, as usual, we have nothing good to talk about.

00:02:10.000 As much as I would like to talk to you about positive things, there's only negative things to get to.

00:02:15.000 But I want to get your thoughts on, first of all, some of the Biden investigations and then some of what's going on with the U.S.-China relations.

00:02:23.000 But let's start with there's two sort of competing revelations that we've been seeing coming out of Washington.

00:02:30.000 Republicans trying to investigate the Bidens.

00:02:32.000 You're world famous for your reporting on the Biden crime family.

00:02:36.000 So we've got the House Oversight Committee that has just this week revealed that Hunter Biden perhaps got received a bribe directed towards Joe Biden for about a million bucks.

00:02:49.000 This doesn't seem to be entirely fresh, but it was certainly framed to us as if it was fresh.

00:02:54.000 Let's just start there.

00:02:55.000 Evaluate, first of all, give me what we learned, if you learned anything from it.

00:03:00.000 Maybe you didn't.

00:03:01.000 And then give me what you think this means in the grand scheme of things.

00:03:04.000 Yeah, Alex, I think the thing we have to keep in mind with this congressional committee is it's going to move slow just by its nature, and it's being driven by their access to records they've subpoenaed.

00:03:16.000 They've been focusing primarily on the banking records associated with the Biden family and the myriad of Biden LLCs that they've set up.

00:03:25.000 Thus far, they've obtained records from four of what are believed to be 12 banks that the Biden family had financial transactions through.

00:03:36.000 And out of those four banks, we've now got about $10 million in foreign money coming to the Bidens.

00:03:42.000 And as the committee has reiterated, and as you and I have made the point really since 2018, when we first broke this story, there's no discernible business that the Bidens have.

00:03:53.000 I mean, there's no service.

00:03:54.000 There's no product.

00:03:56.000 They don't bring any capital to the table.

00:03:58.000 The business seems to be them getting money for some possible future business that never materializes.

00:04:05.000 And I think that's just a way to mask the fact that they are receiving money from foreign entities, and those foreign entities want access to Joe Biden.

00:04:14.000 So I didn't learn a lot new, but I think the committee did a couple of things.

00:04:18.000 Number one, they provided undisputed fact that this money came to the Bidens to these banks.

00:04:26.000 And number two, the committee finally raised the specific point that we made from the beginning that the people actually sending the money to the Bidens have links to Chinese intelligence at a very high level.

00:04:39.000 And that's something I think they should keep pounding on.

00:04:42.000 Okay, so what did we learn about this million-dollar check from this Romanian oligarch who was somewhat familiar to us?

00:04:50.000 Let's be honest, Peter, in the scheme of things, a million bucks is just not a ton of money.

00:04:53.000 But is that enough perhaps to grease the palms of the Biden family and get Joe to do something that he shouldn't have done?

00:05:00.000 Do we see any evidence of that?

00:05:02.000 Yeah, I mean, look, if you look at the Bidens, the Biden family really does not have a whole lot of resources.

00:05:09.000 So a million dollars for the Biden family is, you know, pretty good sum of money.

00:05:14.000 It's somewhat small by other standards when you look at the Clintons and others, but that million dollars still matters a lot to the Bidens.

00:05:22.000 And what I think is particularly scurrilous about this case, you can add Romania to the list of foreign countries that have sent money to the Bidens.

00:05:31.000 And again, it's never Japan or Germany or the UK.

00:05:35.000 It's countries that are rife with corruption.

00:05:37.000 And in this particular case, this gentleman had been charged with corruption.

00:05:41.000 He hired the Bidens to try to get that removed, that attached to him removed so he could do more business in the United States.

00:05:49.000 And the Bidens turned to their friend, Louis Free, the former FBI director, who also got money from this same individual.

00:05:56.000 So this is a Biden story, but it also is a story of what happens to senior FBI people when they leave.

00:06:02.000 And the answer is sometimes not good things.

00:06:04.000 So in the court of public opinion, if the establishment media lets people talk about this, you see this million dollars coming in for, as you say, no goods, no services.

00:06:14.000 We don't really know what the Bidens are doing.

00:06:16.000 So we know this is obviously some way to curry favor or maybe a direct one-to-one bribe.

00:06:23.000 But first of all, do we see the quo?

00:06:26.000 And second of all, do we see anything specifically illegal?

00:06:32.000 Good questions.

00:06:33.000 I think the quid pro quo question is often where the conversation goes.

00:06:37.000 And I think we have to understand that when it comes to corruption, there's two models.

00:06:40.000 One is quid pro quo.

00:06:43.000 I give you money and you give me a specific thing in return.

00:06:46.000 That's the easiest one to detect.

00:06:49.000 The other form of corruption is what I would call a retainer model.

00:06:53.000 In other words, you're looking for access.

00:06:55.000 You're looking for a hearing.

00:06:56.000 You're looking for somebody high in government to hear you out in your concerns.

00:07:02.000 That, in my mind, is as corrupt as a quid pro quo.

00:07:05.000 And that's what I think the Biden model was.

00:07:08.000 They never promised, excuse me, they never promised anything specific, but they were given access to all these nefarious foreign actors. 0.90

00:07:16.000 In terms of illegality, yes, I do believe that what the Bidens were doing, what Joe Biden was doing, was illegal in a number of respects.

00:07:26.000 But it'll also ultimately be the committee and the material they come out that I think will prove and make that case.

00:07:32.000 Is there any hope that Hunter Biden's going to get hauled before this committee and have to answer some of these questions?

00:07:36.000 I mean, it just seems like a no-brainer to me.

00:07:39.000 Yeah, I think the way they're approaching this is pretty good.

00:07:41.000 Again, it's going slow and it's frustrating, but they're approaching this like prosecutors, Alex.

00:07:47.000 They're first gathering the material paper evidence they have.

00:07:50.000 That's the laptop.

00:07:51.000 That's the banking records.

00:07:53.000 Then they're going to work from the outside in.

00:07:55.000 They're going to go to the Hunter Biden business partners, some of whom are cooperating with this committee, which is quite interesting.

00:08:02.000 Then they're going to work their way closer into the inner circle of the family.

00:08:06.000 And I think finally, once they've gathered all this other material, they are going to bring Hunter Biden before this committee.

00:08:13.000 And the question is, what is Hunter Biden going to do?

00:08:15.000 If he ignores the committee, then it's going to be incumbent upon this Department of Justice, his father's Department of Justice, to charge him with contempt of Congress, which is, of course, what was done to Stephen Bannon.

00:08:28.000 And the question is, are they going to apply the same standard to Joe Biden's son as they are applying to other people?

00:08:34.000 And if they don't, I think things are really going to hit the fan for this administration.

00:08:39.000 So would you say you're keeping your hopes up or you're actually high hopes that this thing is really going to yield some real fruit?

00:08:46.000 My hopes are cautiously optimistic.

00:08:49.000 And I think that is because we know where the truth lies.

00:08:53.000 The official congressional investigation is arriving at a lot of the conclusions that we already had, but they're doing it in a way where they actually have the banking records.

00:09:04.000 What we did, Alex, before in showing that there was some $30 million the Bidens got from Chinese entities was looking at the laptop and looking at emails where they talked about the transfer of money.

00:09:15.000 What this committee is now going to do before the American people is say, look, here's the actual wiring of the money.

00:09:21.000 So I am very optimistic because I know where the truth lies, and I still want to believe there are enough people in the United States that care about this stuff and want something to be done about it.

00:09:32.000 There's a couple other places where people are looking into the Biden family right now.

00:09:37.000 One thing that is interesting, this wasn't exactly your beat, but learning that the U.S. government was really deeply involved in the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop news.

00:09:47.000 This seems to be a bombshell.

00:09:48.000 It is.

00:09:49.000 It should be a huge bombshell because we know, of course, that the FBI and probably other government agencies had access to the laptop in 2019.

00:09:59.000 And it was very, very easy to confirm that at least a large number of those emails were real and accurate.

00:10:06.000 When we got a copy of the laptop, Alex, we simply took the email and we compared it to the Secret Service travel logs for Hunter Biden that had been released by a congressional committee.

00:10:16.000 We compared it to the email collection of some of Hunter Biden's business partners, and we found that it matched completely.

00:10:24.000 Is there any way to hold him to account, or is this just another one of those things where we just sit here frustrated?

00:10:29.000 No, I mean, I think Congress needs to hold him to account.

00:10:32.000 And like any office, he can be potentially impeached if they feel that's necessary.

00:10:37.000 Look, to me, the biggest problem is with the FBI leadership, there's a complete lack of curiosity on these issues.

00:10:45.000 I mean, they get very excited about all these other issues they want to investigate.

00:10:49.000 You're talking about the first family of the United States.

00:10:52.000 If you had a possession of Hunter Biden's laptop and you are this world supreme law enforcement agency, there are lots of things you can do to confirm the accuracy of what's in it and look at the very serious national implications, national security implications behind that laptop.

00:11:09.000 The fact of the matter is they didn't seem to do any of that.

00:11:12.000 And that is a problem that starts at the top.

00:11:15.000 Okay, so moving towards Arkansas, Hunter Biden's in a paternity case.

00:11:19.000 The most fascinating thing to me about this, he's been skipping out on alimony, child support, all that stuff.

00:11:25.000 It's incredibly creepy that the Biden family doesn't even acknowledge Hunter's love child with this stripper that he had about four years ago, which is just one of the most appalling things of all the appalling things the Bidens do.

00:11:37.000 But I will say it's fascinating that this judge is going to know everything about Hunter Biden's finances.

00:11:42.000 Do we have any hope of learning what's going on?

00:11:45.000 Because he'll know every place Hunter gets money, correct?

00:11:48.000 Yeah, that's exactly right.

00:11:50.000 Yeah, I mean, it's ironic the point you made about the family not acknowledging this grandchild.

00:11:55.000 It's ironic because Joe Biden made a speech a couple of weeks ago where he said there's no such thing as other people's children.

00:12:02.000 Well, apparently in this case, in this case, there apparently is.

00:12:06.000 But yeah, I mean, to your point, this is another example, I think, of the arrogance that you see with Hunter Biden.

00:12:14.000 He could have easily tried to, you know, work out some arrangement with the mother of this child.

00:12:19.000 He didn't do that.

00:12:20.000 He's now being dragged in front of court and he is required to disclose his sources of income.

00:12:27.000 And so some of that, I'm sure, is already aware of the mother's defense team.

00:12:33.000 And hopefully we'll get to learn some about that.

00:12:36.000 But this has been, I think, one of the great mysteries and one of the problems in America today.

00:12:40.000 A guy like Joe Biden has to tell us if he has $1,000 of GE stock, he has to give us every campaign contributions, you know, starting from $200 and above.

00:12:50.000 But if his adult son uses his name to make millions of dollars from China, there's no disclosure requirement.

00:12:59.000 That's just patently absurd.

00:13:00.000 And that needs to change.

00:13:02.000 Exactly.

00:13:03.000 Last one for the day.

00:13:04.000 We got two minutes, and this is a topic.

00:13:05.000 I'm sure you could do an hour on this.

00:13:07.000 But the leaked Reuters revealed from four State Department sources that the Biden policy has shifted towards engagement with China and essentially has let them off the hook, and they're slow walking information from this spy balloon that bizarrely floated over our country for was about a week or so, a few months, ago.

00:13:28.000 Peter, did you catch this story and do you have any thoughts on this revelation?

00:13:32.000 Yeah, I mean honestly, I think American foreign policy towards China right now is a disgrace.

00:13:37.000 It's basically the same thing we've been doing for 40 years.

00:13:40.000 If we engage with them, whatever that means, it generally means giving them whatever they want.

00:13:45.000 They're going to become more calm, more liberal, more friendly.

00:13:50.000 The fact of the matter is that has not happened.

00:13:52.000 China is far more aggressive, far more powerful than it was 40 years ago. 0.88

00:13:58.000 Engagement has got us nothing and the Biden approach is to return to that policy, somehow thinking that I don't know maybe they think they're smarter or better looking or more persuasive they're somehow going to get a different result from China.

00:14:11.000 They're not, and it's going to be the American people that are going to suffer. 0.56

00:14:15.000 So yeah, this is a huge problem and it demonstrates that this administration is tone deaf to the realities of what's going on in the world and what China is doing to us.

00:14:25.000 Yeah, they have.

00:14:26.000 Uh, they're they're slow walking the release of this.

00:14:30.000 The details, Peter.

00:14:31.000 We need these details and they're using them because they think it's some sort of a bargaining chip.

00:14:36.000 They're not going to get anything with them, they're just withholding the information from us and meanwhile, the establishment media is focused on, you know, January the 6th.

00:14:43.000 Still Peter, I wish I could give you more time.

00:14:45.000 Unfortunately, they're giving me the big time old timey hook to pull me off the stage. 0.98

00:14:49.000 But the Government Accountability Institute, where Peter Schweitzer is the best investigative journalist in America, senior contributor to Breitbart.

00:14:56.000 If you've not read Red Handed, you're missing out the drill down podcast.

00:15:00.000 Anything Peter does is terrific.

00:15:01.000 Thanks, Peter.

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00:16:08.000 And let's bring in Senator JD Vance from Ohio.

00:16:12.000 Senator, thanks for making time for us tonight.

00:16:14.000 Good to be with you, Alex.

00:16:16.000 So let's first talk about your real bill.

00:16:18.000 I think this is a big deal, and I love that you're showing leadership here.

00:16:21.000 Is this your first big bill?

00:16:22.000 I guess that's my first half question.

00:16:24.000 And the other thing is noteworthy that you're actually not doing this to campaign for some higher office.

00:16:29.000 You're actually trying to benefit the people of Ohio with it, which is nice.

00:16:32.000 Explain what's going on, and you're building a huge coalition.

00:16:36.000 Give me the details.

00:16:38.000 Yeah, so the basic idea is what happened in East Palestine, Ohio, where you had a train crash, terrible chemical fire afterwards, and basically a chemical bomb that went off in northeastern Ohio.

00:16:48.000 I don't think that should happen again, or at least we should do some common sense things to make it less likely.

00:16:53.000 What I've tried to do here is basically create a couple of additional safety standards that railroads have to comport with, and then simultaneously make it so that the firefighters who are dealing with these chemical fires when you have the train crashes to begin with, they actually know what they're dealing with.

00:17:07.000 Because that's something I heard from the folks of East Palestine and 99% volunteer firefighting force is they were going into this chemical fire.

00:17:14.000 They didn't know what they were actually dealing with and how could they properly protect themselves or deal with the fire given that reality.

00:17:22.000 So the bill addresses both of those things.

00:17:24.000 And the thing that I try to remind people, because I know a number of conservatives don't like the idea of doing anything that makes it harder for corporate America to live their life, the basic problem here is that the railroads socialize the risk of their business model.

00:17:38.000 When they have a massive train crash, that costs a lot of money for Ohio taxpayers.

00:17:43.000 It costs a lot of money for federal taxpayers.

00:17:45.000 Think about the welfare benefits that are going to flow out through the door to the people of East Palestine, the health care benefits because of the health and economic consequences of what Norfolk Southern did.

00:17:56.000 And if we're going to do that, and I think, of course, we should, we have to take care of the people of East Palestine.

00:18:00.000 We should expect Norfolk Southern and other rail companies to hold themselves to a higher standard.

00:18:05.000 And that's exactly what we're doing with this bill.

00:18:07.000 It's pretty simple and straightforward.

00:18:08.000 I know, you know, rightfully so.

00:18:10.000 People are focused on the border.

00:18:12.000 People are focused on the debt ceiling negotiation.

00:18:14.000 Those are all very important issues, but I think this is a small win that I can get for the people of Ohio that matters a lot to folks back home.

00:18:20.000 Yeah, and you're building an interesting coalition here.

00:18:23.000 You've got Senator Rubio, Senator Hawley are backing it, but you've also got Sherrod Brown and John Fetterman, or at least what John Fetterman's operation will say, is backing it.

00:18:36.000 Bob Casey as well.

00:18:38.000 Why are they behind this?

00:18:40.000 Well, I think for the Ohio and Pennsylvania senators, it's a very easy case.

00:18:44.000 So East Palestine is right on the border of Ohio, Pennsylvania.

00:18:48.000 It's about four miles from the Pennsylvania border on the Ohio side.

00:18:52.000 So, you know, if you're from Ohio, Pennsylvania, this is just not a partisan issue, right?

00:18:56.000 I think for other senators, it's maybe they tend to look at this stuff through more of a partisan lens.

00:19:01.000 But for those of us who are representing the people of Ohio and Pennsylvania, it's an easy sell.

00:19:05.000 We've also got Eric Schmidt on board, Mike Braun, a number of great senators from sort of across the conservative spectrum.

00:19:11.000 So I feel good about its chance of passing.

00:19:14.000 I think that the House is obviously focused on the debt ceiling as it should be for the next few weeks.

00:19:19.000 I think it's got a good chance of passing in the House.

00:19:21.000 And this might be one of those bills that Joe Biden can sign into law because the guy's running for re-election.

00:19:26.000 He can't sit around and do nothing for the next two years.

00:19:28.000 So let's hope he does something here.

00:19:29.000 Yeah, and he at least acts as though he is someone who has some allegiance to Pennsylvania.

00:19:35.000 So we'll see if that plays out here.

00:19:38.000 What are the objections to it?

00:19:40.000 I know that you're going back and forth with Senator Cruz.

00:19:42.000 We don't need to belabor that, but we know that he's kind of the rail industry seems to be worked with him in the past.

00:19:48.000 I'm not asking you to go there, but what are the main objections to it?

00:19:52.000 Because it seems like a no-brainer.

00:19:54.000 Yeah, I mean, Ted's a good friend, absolutely.

00:19:56.000 And right now, by the way, he's at the southern border doing the Lord's work and notifying the people about what's going on there.

00:20:03.000 I think that the objections, the good faith objections that I've heard from Ted and from others, it's pretty straightforward here.

00:20:10.000 First of all, people are worried about a couple of provisions in the bill.

00:20:15.000 They think that maybe you give too much discretion to the Secretary of Transportation, Pete Butigic, who has done nothing.

00:20:23.000 And look, that's a fair concern.

00:20:24.000 My counter-argument, Alex, is I've been complaining for the last three months that Pete Buttigig has done nothing.

00:20:30.000 So if I draft a bill that forces him to take action, that's not giving him too much discretion.

00:20:35.000 The way that I think about it is we're actually forcing him to take some action, which is exactly what he should be doing.

00:20:40.000 I think there's sort of some broader concerns about very narrow parts of the bill.

00:20:44.000 I actually think that over the next couple of months, maybe a couple of weeks, we're going to address some of those concerns, get a lot of additional Republicans on board.

00:20:52.000 But I think the concern that I really have no patience with is this idea that somehow we're violating a free market principle by forcing the railroads to observe some common sense safety standards.

00:21:03.000 The railroads are not a free market industry.

00:21:05.000 They've benefited from any number of government monopolies, government special subsidies.

00:21:10.000 And by the way, Alex, six months or so ago, they came to the federal government and literally begged for a bailout from a labor dispute that they had gotten themselves in.

00:21:19.000 And Joe Biden and the Democrats went right along with it.

00:21:22.000 So these guys can't claim to be the representatives of the free market given how enmeshed they are with the government.

00:21:29.000 That's been my argument from the beginning.

00:21:31.000 And that's really the one criticism of the bill that I have no patience with.

00:21:35.000 This is not about infringing on the free market.

00:21:39.000 It's about making a free rider pay their fair share.

00:21:43.000 Yeah, it seems like it's accountability for both sides of the argument.

00:21:46.000 The EPA said, and Charlie Kirk just tweeted this out yesterday, that they weren't even consulted on the decision to burn thousands of gallons of toxic chemicals in East Palestine.

00:21:55.000 JD, can we check in on East Palestine?

00:21:57.000 How are they doing?

00:21:58.000 The fallout must be intense and it just gets pushed off the front pages.

00:22:02.000 How are they?

00:22:04.000 Well, this is one of the big fears I've had, Alex, and certainly the people of East Palestine have had that as soon as this stopped being a front page story, that everyone would just ignore them.

00:22:12.000 I certainly haven't done that, but unfortunately, far too many have.

00:22:16.000 Look, it's getting better, right?

00:22:18.000 Things are certainly improving, though they're improving at a slow pace.

00:22:22.000 It's kind of crazy, Alex, if you think about all of the toxic waste caused by that chemical spill, it's still not out of East Palestine, though it's getting out piece by piece.

00:22:31.000 We think by mid-June, the community should be cleaned up.

00:22:34.000 And then really, once we get the cleanup done, which is what I'm most focused on, like I said, should be happening by mid-June.

00:22:41.000 The two things we're going to have to worry about are: number one, how do we rebuild East Palestine economically?

00:22:45.000 I mean, think about the farmers, the homeowners who have completely had their lives devastated by what's happened.

00:22:51.000 And then the second thing is we've got to do some long-term health monitoring so that people know with confidence that they can go back to their homes, they can live their lives, and their grandkids aren't going to get weird diseases five, 10 years down the road.

00:23:03.000 And here's the crazy thing, Alex.

00:23:04.000 If you think of all the weirdness that we've gone through the last couple of years with COVID, the massive sprawling public health bureaucracy we have in this country, there is not an arm of the federal government, of the entire public health bureaucracy that is set up to test and monitor for long-term health concerns, you know, the consequences of a chemical spill 10 years down the road.

00:23:27.000 So that's something we have to work on too, because the people of East Palestine are coming to me and saying, look, we're not worried we're going to drink the water and drop dead tomorrow. 1.00

00:23:34.000 We're worried we're going to drink the water for the next 10 years and it's going to cause problems for our kids and our grandkids.

00:23:40.000 That's, of course, a totally reasonable fear and something their government has to be responsive to.

00:23:44.000 Yeah, and it's been said before, President Trump getting there first, I think, was a pretty important moment in the presidential.

00:23:50.000 Huge deal.

00:23:52.000 Huge deal for the people of East Palestine. 1.00

00:23:54.000 I think a huge deal for the president politically because it really does show him at his best, right?

00:23:58.000 On the ground, the people who have been forgotten and ignored, drawing attention to it, actually taking action to make their lives better.

00:24:05.000 I think it was a great win for both the president and the people of East Palestine.

00:24:09.000 Yeah, I agree.

00:24:10.000 And it did make me feel like President Trump's getting his fastball back, which is what we all want, whether you're a big fan or not a fan at all.

00:24:16.000 You want him to have his fastball.

00:24:17.000 JD, you got about five minutes, and I got two huge ones that I want to get to with you.

00:24:21.000 The debt ceiling debate.

00:24:22.000 Republicans have a great proposal on the plan.

00:24:24.000 It actually raises the debt ceiling, which would have been intolerable a few years ago, but we're getting more realistic.

00:24:29.000 It just demands some cuts, no more tax hikes.

00:24:32.000 Seems like a no-brainer.

00:24:33.000 And yet the Democrats are acting like this is some sort of an outrage. 0.98

00:24:37.000 It's really ridiculous, Alex.

00:24:38.000 We have to sort of step back and remember the posture here where Joe Biden refused to negotiate for months, basically daring the Republicans to come up with a deal.

00:24:46.000 Kevin McCarthy, to his great credit, got the moderates in his coalition, the conservatives in his coalition behind a deal that does two things.

00:24:53.000 It pays the country's debts, ensures that we don't have a terrible economic outcome.

00:24:58.000 It also puts the country on a sustainable path financially.

00:25:02.000 I think it's a very big win for our country and really astonishing that Joe Biden continues to sort of sit in the Oval Office and say, I'm not going to do anything.

00:25:10.000 It really shows how much the radicals, I think, drive the agenda in the Biden White House.

00:25:14.000 I don't think Joe Biden five years ago would have been sitting on his hands doing absolute nothing, at least I hope not.

00:25:20.000 But it goes to show how far his administration has gone off the left end of the cliff.

00:25:26.000 Unfortunately, the country needs him to do his job.

00:25:29.000 We can't do all of this ourselves as Republicans.

00:25:32.000 The president has to come to the table.

00:25:34.000 What I think President Trump said in his town hall the other day was really important.

00:25:38.000 We should not allow these guys to play chicken with us.

00:25:40.000 We should go in, eyes wide open, about what the downsides are, and we should say we have more patience and we have more willingness to get a deal done than you do.

00:25:49.000 So we're not going to let you guys dictate terms on us.

00:25:52.000 If we have to go right up to the edge, we will.

00:25:54.000 We'll do it in the service of getting the country back on the right path financially.

00:25:58.000 Biden's also falsely claiming the Republicans' plan would cut veterans' health care.

00:26:02.000 Just the demagoguery is surreal.

00:26:04.000 JD, I've been doing a lot of research into Joe Biden, and I'm going to tease the audience with this.

00:26:09.000 But down the road, I will definitively make the case he is the most fiscally irresponsible person to ever live in the history of the world.

00:26:15.000 And I think this is yet another example of it.

00:26:18.000 Let's turn to the border, but let me ask you a question.

00:26:21.000 And I think you'll know where I'm going with this.

00:26:23.000 Is Ohio a border state?

00:26:25.000 Well, it is, Alex.

00:26:26.000 I mean, every place is a border state because we deal with the consequences of what comes across the southern border.

00:26:32.000 I mean, if you live in Ohio and you maybe don't see the effects of the border crisis as obviously as you do in El Paso, Texas, if you know someone who's died of a fentanyl overdose, you are feeling the effects of Ohio being a border state.

00:26:44.000 If you've gone to a hospital emergency room and you've seen the wait times way too long because there are a number of illegal aliens getting health care in the state of Ohio, you're seeing the effects of Ohio as a border state. 0.96

00:26:55.000 And if you've tried to buy a house and you've seen the effects of skyrocketing housing costs and interest rates, you're seeing the effects of Ohio as a border state because when you bring in 10 million people illegally, you've got to house them somewhere. 0.94

00:27:10.000 And houses that should go to American citizens are right now going to people who should not be here in the first place. 0.99

00:27:15.000 So everything from the skyrocketing cost of housing and health care to the fentanyl on our streets is a direct consequence of Joe Biden's border policy.

00:27:24.000 And I know we're short on time, Alex, but Maorcus came out and said this.

00:27:29.000 He said we are having an open border because American companies need cheap labor.

00:27:34.000 He actually said we're allowing a border crisis in this country in the service of cheap labor.

00:27:40.000 These guys are not even hiding it anymore.

00:27:42.000 It's extraordinary.

00:27:44.000 It's dangerous.

00:27:45.000 And it's the reason why we need an all-hands-on-deck approach, minimize the damage as much as we can for the next two years.

00:27:51.000 And God, we have to get a Republican president, hopefully Donald Trump at 24.

00:27:56.000 Brilliant point, JD.

00:27:57.000 I got 30 seconds.

00:27:58.000 Are we completely helpless here, or what can we do, particularly you elected Republicans?

00:28:04.000 No, look, we're not completely helpless.

00:28:06.000 Obviously, Joe Biden has a lot of power at the southern border, but we can fight him tooth and nail.

00:28:10.000 We can try to reinforce and re-implement Title 42.

00:28:13.000 We can take money from his priorities unless he promises to enforce the border.

00:28:18.000 I think that's one of the things we have to do through this debt ceiling negotiation: say, look, if you want us to be better negotiating partners, actually enforce the southern border.

00:28:25.000 That's the most important thing we could do.

00:28:28.000 JD Vance, Republican from Ohio, anything to plug today, JD?

00:28:31.000 Or where should people go if they want to support the train bill?

00:28:36.000 We're on all the social media.

00:28:37.000 JD Vance, one on Twitter.

00:28:38.000 We're on Facebook, Gitter, Truth, and Facebook.

00:28:41.000 Just follow along and call your congressman.

00:28:43.000 Tell him to get behind this bill.

00:28:44.000 Amen.

00:28:45.000 JD Vance, thank you.

00:28:46.000 Thanks, Alex.

00:28:50.000 We're seeing today the stock market was taking a bit of a bath, especially early in the day.

00:28:55.000 And why could this be?

00:28:56.000 Well, the reason why is because there is one particular Fed official, someone who's seen as a moderate, who came out today and suggested that perhaps the unemployment rate is too low and the inflation rate is not low enough, which sends a signal that perhaps we could see yet another Federal Reserve rate hike.

00:29:19.000 And inflation actually ticked up a little bit from the last time we did a read on this.

00:29:25.000 So even though it's a bit below its peak, it's actually going in the wrong direction.

00:29:29.000 We're seeing unemployment at a historic rate.

00:29:31.000 And what the Fed's trying to do with these interest rates is they're trying to titrate the market so that there actually is some increased level of unemployment in order to slow down the inflation rate.

00:29:42.000 So they have not been able to accomplish this, clearly, at this point.

00:29:46.000 We saw unemployment claims go up in the last weekly reporting, but overall, we're just in way too precarious of a position.

00:29:54.000 And so even though Wall Street, I think, had a consensus, perhaps until earlier today, even that the rate hikes were going to stop, now that is no longer the case.

00:30:03.000 And we're to interpret, I think, some of this early reporting from today from the Fed as pretty much what Jerome Powell is thinking.

00:30:13.000 So he probably shares his point of view, and he seems to be willing to continue to hike rates.

00:30:20.000 So this is a pretty big change because the market is now, it was betting on probably rate cuts or at least no additional rate hikes coming up.

00:30:29.000 And we could see yet another hike based on this recent data.

00:30:33.000 So this is volatile time and it is not to belabor the point, but it's definitely one where you want to be hedging as best you can with money, particularly when you know we are going to be seeing the Biden administration continue to try to spend.

00:30:48.000 And this is why I think he doesn't want to go with the Republicans' debt ceiling rules because all he knows how to do is spend.

00:30:54.000 Really, most Democrats are like this.

00:30:56.000 They don't have any solutions that involve cuts.

00:30:58.000 They don't have any solutions that involve accountability.

00:31:01.000 Their only solutions are to throw resources at things.

00:31:04.000 Just imagine managing your personal life this way.

00:31:07.000 Imagine if every time you had a problem, the solution wasn't to try to generate more money or be more thoughtful with money.

00:31:14.000 It was just, I'm just going to spend until the problem goes away.

00:31:17.000 We would all be in crippling debt.

00:31:19.000 And that's where we're at in the U.S. right now.

00:31:21.000 Six in 10 Americans say the Biden inflation impacts their lives a lot.

00:31:28.000 Who are the people who are not in this group?

00:31:30.000 Your purchasing power is declining at a rapid rate because the inflation is outpacing any sort of wage growth or economic growth that we're seeing.

00:31:39.000 The open border plays a role in this.

00:31:41.000 The fact that we're going to be having so much money being sent back to other countries via remittances plays a role in this.

00:31:46.000 All of these aren't just national security issues, but they're also issues that make it so that it is going to be more and more difficult to service our debt.

00:31:54.000 Now, are we looking at a debt default anytime soon?

00:31:58.000 I don't think so.

00:31:58.000 I don't think that's coming up right now.

00:32:01.000 But at this moment, at this moment, we are seeing Americans who are struggling.

00:32:07.000 And in the meantime, Joe Biden is trying to take credit for some mythical deficit reduction of $1.7 trillion.

00:32:14.000 This is fact-check false.

00:32:15.000 And we have a story on this at Breitbart.com.

00:32:18.000 Any reduction in the deficit is largely attributable to the reopening of the economy post-coronavirus.

00:32:23.000 Sean Moran writes for us at Breitbart News.

00:32:25.000 It has nothing to do with anything Biden's done.

00:32:27.000 Biden is entirely incompetent on this stuff, but he's very willing to lie about it and maybe lie successfully enough to get all the media off his back while he readies the next trillion dollar spending package.

00:32:38.000 So beware.

00:32:39.000 That's today's show.

00:32:40.000 Thanks to Charlie Kirk and his wonderful production team, giving me the platform, doing such a great job putting the shows together, making me look good.

00:32:47.000 And for all of you who go to Breitbart.com, can't thank you enough for that.

00:32:50.000 We'll talk to you next time.

00:32:54.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - May 13, 2023

Every State is a Border State Now with Sen. JD Vance and Peter Schweizer

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