The Charlie Kirk Show - February 08, 2023


Everything Worth Knowing About Biden’s SOTU with Senator Josh Hawley


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Sen. Josh Hawley joins us for immediate reaction on Joe Biden's State of the Union address. We talk about our take, and are Republicans building a machine to win in 2024? I don t think so. Subscribe to our new show, The Charlie Kirk Show, wherever you get your shows.

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00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody.
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00:00:01.000 Senator Josh Hawley joins us for immediate reaction on Biden's State of the Union address.
00:00:06.000 We talk about our take and are Republicans building a machine to win in 2024.
00:00:11.000 I don't think so.
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00:01:11.000 It was an interesting night, to say the least.
00:01:13.000 I'm curious how many of you actually watched the speech last night.
00:01:17.000 But to help us make sense of it is the great senator from Missouri, Senator Josh Hawley.
00:01:23.000 Senator, welcome to the program.
00:01:25.000 Thank you so much for having me.
00:01:26.000 So, Senator, you and I were texting last evening.
00:01:29.000 And of course, I mean, Biden was lying and speaking on both sides of his mouth and was not genuine in his approach to these issues.
00:01:38.000 But you and I both agreed that there was certainly an emphasis, a focus on some of the principles that the MAGA movement have been talking about the last couple of years.
00:01:50.000 What are your thoughts on that?
00:01:52.000 Well, listen, I thought that Joe Biden last night tried to sound like a light Donald Trump.
00:01:58.000 I mean, he talked about the forgotten man.
00:02:00.000 At one point, he went on this long, this long passage about the forgotten man.
00:02:03.000 And you're right to what you said, Charlie, about, you know, in the chamber, Biden, he flurs his words, he stumbles over his lines, he talks through applause lines.
00:02:11.000 So you can only hear about a third of it.
00:02:14.000 But I was really quite, it caught my attention.
00:02:16.000 I thought, this is very interesting.
00:02:18.000 This is definitely an attempt by the Democrats that they realize that their actual agenda of going after working people, of going after working class culture, of going after our heritage as a nation, is a loser. 0.99
00:02:31.000 And there are a lot of things, but stupid isn't one of them. 0.98
00:02:33.000 So what they've decided to do is bury that. 0.98
00:02:35.000 Biden tried to bury all of that last night and instead get back to this blue-collar rhetoric that, of course, his policies have nothing to do with.
00:02:43.000 But I thought politically it was a savvy move on his part, and I hope Republicans are ready for it.
00:02:49.000 Because I can tell you, Charlie, if Republicans are just standing around talking about what they're going to do for corporations, it ain't going to work.
00:02:56.000 I mean, we have got to talk to working people.
00:02:59.000 Yeah, it seemed to me, look, Biden is obviously nothing more.
00:03:03.000 You can call him a puppet, you can call him a spokesperson.
00:03:05.000 He just, they input whatever the artificial intelligence machine tells him, chat GPT, and he reads it.
00:03:10.000 So it's not his own original thoughts, but there's certainly a group of really smart Democrats that have 100 different pieces of data on every single swing state voter.
00:03:21.000 And it seemed to me that the thing that jumped off the page and I reread the speech was that nationalism, not corporatism, patriotism, not neoliberalism or globalism, is going to determine the White House in 2024.
00:03:37.000 What are your thoughts, Senator?
00:03:39.000 I think that's exactly correct.
00:03:41.000 That is where the center of the country is.
00:03:43.000 Charlie, here is my view on where the center of American politics is.
00:03:47.000 It's not sort of halfway between left and right ideologies, whatever that point would be.
00:03:52.000 That's not the middle.
00:03:52.000 The middle of the country is nationalist.
00:03:56.000 The center of our nation in terms of our beliefs, our commitments, our values is nationalist.
00:04:00.000 People believe in this nation.
00:04:02.000 They're proud of this nation, proud of our history.
00:04:04.000 I want to believe in our future.
00:04:06.000 I want this to be a strong country.
00:04:07.000 And I think that Biden's people are beginning to realize this.
00:04:11.000 They realize how toxic their policies have been that they're so committed to that are hollowing out the center of this nation.
00:04:17.000 And so they want to paper over that rhetorically.
00:04:19.000 What Republicans have to do is expose the charade, right?
00:04:23.000 Expose the lies that actually they're the ones who are going after working America.
00:04:28.000 They're the ones who are weakening this nation.
00:04:30.000 But to do that, we've got to put forward an agenda that will make this country strong, that will protect our culture, that will protect our values.
00:04:37.000 That's our challenge.
00:04:39.000 Another thing that I noticed last night, and our audience will be the exception to this rule.
00:04:44.000 So let me say that again.
00:04:45.000 I got to re-emphasize that.
00:04:46.000 You are the exception to this, is that for low propensity voters, for moderates and independents, their view of Joe Biden, it's very hard for those voters to get to a place of hatred of Joe Biden.
00:04:59.000 I think one of Biden's political superpowers is to be unbelievably radical, unpopular, but unlike Obama or Hillary, less people hate him.
00:05:08.000 That's a fact.
00:05:09.000 It's true.
00:05:10.000 When he delivers another slurred, barely coherent speech, our reaction is more sympathy and not loathing.
00:05:18.000 It's very easy to mock, but it's very hard to hate.
00:05:22.000 It's not easy to hate.
00:05:23.000 And Senator, I think in some ways there's a stealthiness to that, isn't there?
00:05:27.000 Where, you know, we're quick to share the memes of Joe Biden about how he can't even make sentences and forget and all that.
00:05:34.000 I think that that's fine.
00:05:35.000 There's a place for that.
00:05:37.000 However, I got, at least through some of, I got the impression last evening that if Joe Biden even moderates some of his views a little bit and we just continue the same ways of attacking him, there is either a sympathy component to this and or, you know, Joe Biden and the Democrat machine are going to try to be a Democrat version of MAGA.
00:06:04.000 And I think this is important, Senator, because the neoliberal forces within the Republican Party want their power back.
00:06:12.000 And wouldn't it be tragic if the Democrats run more nationalistic than Republicans?
00:06:18.000 And this is exactly, Charlie.
00:06:19.000 If they're smart, that is exactly what they will try to do.
00:06:22.000 And I agree with you.
00:06:22.000 I thought Biden's speech last night was an attempt to begin to pivot over to a more pro-America nationalist agenda.
00:06:30.000 Here's the thing, though, about Biden is, above all, he's old.
00:06:33.000 He represents the past and he represents the failed past.
00:06:37.000 He represents the Democrat Party that for years now has hated this country, that thinks that we are racist, that thinks that we are fundamentally corrupt, that has hollowed out our industry, that has capitulated to China, that has made us weaker, that has tried to destroy our culture.
00:06:51.000 That is what he represents.
00:06:53.000 We have to make the case that it is time to turn the page on that, that we can be stronger, that we can be better, that there's something to hope for for the future.
00:07:03.000 Whatever else Joe Biden represents, it ain't the future.
00:07:05.000 We've got to talk about the future of this nation can be strong and it can be something worth getting up for in the morning.
00:07:12.000 But we've got to put forward a positive nationalist agenda to do that.
00:07:15.000 That is our challenge.
00:07:16.000 Well, and I know he doesn't mean it, but when he was talking about holding tech companies accountable, I didn't applaud for the record.
00:07:24.000 I did not applaud.
00:07:26.000 But I tilted my head and I thought to myself, why aren't we leading more on this?
00:07:31.000 And Senator, you are leading on it.
00:07:33.000 You want to create a legal age for kids to be able to access social media.
00:07:39.000 I just personally am getting a little annoyed that the Democrats are even allowed to get any sort of political popularity out of this.
00:07:46.000 We're the ones that are actually Republicans and conservatives that are being harmed the most by these tech companies.
00:07:51.000 We've been talking about it, but now the Democrats, all of a sudden, after these companies have done such damage, they're kind of tinkering on the edges.
00:07:58.000 Tell us about your plan, but also comment on Joe Biden talking about tech companies in a speech last evening.
00:08:07.000 Well, you know why there's an opening for Democrats in Biden to use the rhetoric, at least, Charlie.
00:08:11.000 And the reason is Republican leaders haven't done anything.
00:08:13.000 Oh, that's exactly right.
00:08:14.000 They talk about it.
00:08:15.000 It's an applause line, but they don't do anything.
00:08:17.000 Look who actually introduces real legislation that would change the law on this subject.
00:08:21.000 You won't find many Republicans, hardly any at all.
00:08:23.000 I mean, look who introduces legislation that would break up these big tech companies that would go after these woke corporate monopolies.
00:08:30.000 You're not going to find Republicans.
00:08:32.000 They talk about it from time to time, but they don't do it.
00:08:34.000 And so the Democrats say, well, heck, we'll just make that our issue.
00:08:37.000 And I tell you, that would be a tragic, tragic mistake on the part of Republicans.
00:08:41.000 Here's what I think we ought to do: actually do something.
00:08:44.000 Number one, we ought to break up these big monopolies.
00:08:46.000 I mean, let's just put that on the table to be frank about it.
00:08:48.000 Google, Facebook, they ought to be broken up.
00:08:50.000 But I tell you what, let's protect kids online.
00:08:53.000 When it comes to social media, let's set an age requirement of 16.
00:08:57.000 I'm a parent of three kids.
00:08:58.000 You've met my kids, Charlie.
00:09:00.000 They're little.
00:09:00.000 They're not on social media.
00:09:02.000 I dread the day when they will want to be.
00:09:04.000 And as a parent, I would love it if there would be a requirement that you can't even get on a social media account of your own until you're 16.
00:09:11.000 I think every parent in America would love it.
00:09:13.000 It would put power into the hands of parents.
00:09:16.000 It is common sense.
00:09:17.000 The data backs it up.
00:09:18.000 Let's start.
00:09:19.000 Surely, surely we could start there and Republicans to get behind this and go after it with Democrats.
00:09:25.000 Let's do that. 0.99
00:09:26.000 And then let's put even more power in the hands of parents. 1.00
00:09:28.000 Let's let them sue these platforms. 1.00
00:09:30.000 Let's let them delete their children's data. 0.98
00:09:32.000 Parents ought to be able to go to big tech and say, give me all the data you have on my kid and delete it permanently. 0.88
00:09:38.000 Let's give the power to parents.
00:09:40.000 This is so common sense.
00:09:42.000 I wish the Republican Party would think clearly on this.
00:09:46.000 Instead, the Democrats are allowed to lie and score some cheap political points on it.
00:09:51.000 Senator Josh Hawley, thank you for your leadership.
00:09:53.000 Appreciate it.
00:09:53.000 Thank you.
00:09:56.000 That's what we need, Charlie.
00:09:57.000 We need folks that step forward and actually get some stuff done and show that it can be done.
00:10:04.000 You know, we just banned TikTok on all government devices, phones, laptops, you name it.
00:10:08.000 We just did that about two months ago.
00:10:10.000 People said it couldn't be done.
00:10:12.000 Guess what?
00:10:12.000 We did it.
00:10:13.000 Now it's time to push forward.
00:10:15.000 Let's take on these corporate monopolies that are trying to hurt our kids, that are trying to stifle our speech as conservatives.
00:10:22.000 Let's do something about it and not just talk about it.
00:10:25.000 That's our challenge.
00:10:26.000 I tell you what, as long as people of my state will have me here, that's what I'm going to be fighting for in the Senate.
00:10:33.000 Senator, thank you so much.
00:10:34.000 Appreciate it.
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00:11:39.000 Joe Biden's speech was not a policy agenda.
00:11:41.000 It's a marketing scheme for 2024.
00:11:45.000 These are poll-tested one-liners.
00:11:48.000 These are highly sophisticated narratives that are then distilled into packaged sound bites to try and keep and hold on to political power.
00:11:57.000 However, I will agree with, let's just say a little bit of an intense email we received, but he's not wrong.
00:12:05.000 Ken said something here that was a little bit fired up.
00:12:08.000 I'm not going to read the whole email, but the sentiment and the attitude is, Charlie, the messaging doesn't really matter because what does matter in 2024 is the machinery.
00:12:16.000 And that is exactly right.
00:12:18.000 Before we go into the specifics of the speech, I feel obligated to share one of my initial reactions when I saw the deranged foreign agent that calls himself our president meandering through the center hall, randomly giving hugs and kisses to every Democrat in the kind of center aisle.
00:12:37.000 And I thought to myself, they can run him again in 2024.
00:12:41.000 I have made predictions that they're going to try to replace him, but I think that actually the jury is out right now.
00:12:47.000 And the reason being is they are very confident in the machinery that they have developed in Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania.
00:13:00.000 Why was I in Dana Point at the Republican National Committee?
00:13:03.000 Why was I trying to lobby RNC members?
00:13:06.000 Why was I doing that?
00:13:07.000 That, quite honestly, has done nothing but one me enemies at the Republican National Committee.
00:13:14.000 The reason I was there was to represent you, obviously, 98% of you that said we want to change at the RNC.
00:13:20.000 But there is a truism that we need to repeat almost daily going into 2024.
00:13:26.000 And we need to focus on it.
00:13:28.000 And we need to repeat it.
00:13:29.000 And we need to internalize it.
00:13:31.000 It's very simple.
00:13:32.000 The machine we build or fail to build will decide 2024.
00:13:39.000 That's it.
00:13:40.000 The machine that we build or fail to build will decide 2024.
00:13:45.000 So you say, well, Charlie, what is that machine?
00:13:47.000 You need 500 full-time ballot chasers in Georgia.
00:13:51.000 500.
00:13:53.000 I think the RNC has like three field workers.
00:13:58.000 At least they had two in Nevada.
00:14:00.000 What is a ballot chaser? 0.99
00:14:01.000 A ballot chaser is some of what the Democrats do.
00:14:04.000 Someone that says, here is the 600,000 low-propensity Republican voters that might vote by mail, that might turn in their ballot.
00:14:13.000 Let's have a universe of about 250, let's say 500 voters, and make sure they vote.
00:14:19.000 Maybe in-person early voting, and you shrink that universe. 0.86
00:14:22.000 We need 400 ballot chasers in Arizona.
00:14:25.000 We need well over 1,000.
00:14:27.000 These are full-time paid people in Pennsylvania.
00:14:30.000 Forget the television advertisements and all that.
00:14:33.000 That stuff's going to happen.
00:14:35.000 Either we're going to build the machine that will make us competitive in 2024, not to mention the election integrity machine.
00:14:43.000 Have we done that?
00:14:43.000 Of course not.
00:14:44.000 One of the reasons why I was in Dana Point, California, advocating for regime change at the RNC was we need sharp and smart lawyers that are willing to go into the courtroom and win.
00:14:54.000 I don't have confidence in that.
00:14:57.000 So as I saw Joe Biden kind of meander his way on up to give his speech, I said, yeah, they could run him again and they could implement him again for sure.
00:15:07.000 Yeah, the messaging is part of it.
00:15:09.000 He needs to say the right things.
00:15:10.000 He needs to do the right performance.
00:15:12.000 He needs to lace his speech with some themes and some elements I find to be interesting and we'll talk about that.
00:15:17.000 But more important than the messaging, more important than what he's running on, is the machinery, the grinding of the gears that they have built through lawfare, through ballot chasing, through relaxed signature verification requirements, through mass early voting, through all of these different elements.
00:15:38.000 They think they believe they're very confident, almost cocky, which will end up being a liability for them, that they can run anybody.
00:15:45.000 They could put anybody in the machine and be successful.
00:15:50.000 I'm not saying win.
00:15:51.000 Winning and being successful in elections are two different things.
00:15:54.000 This is not about messaging.
00:15:56.000 This is not about rallies, which I love and they do help.
00:16:00.000 This is a contest about who can get the most pieces of paper into the box over the course of a week, a month, or however long the game called an election lasts.
00:16:13.000 And so I am going to, on this program, we'll talk about messaging.
00:16:16.000 We'll talk about the Palace intrigue.
00:16:18.000 We'll talk about ideas.
00:16:19.000 We'll talk about philosophy.
00:16:20.000 We'll talk about all of that.
00:16:21.000 But my obligation to you, the audience, is to be honest, which is our failure or our success to build a robust ballot chasing machine that focuses on election integrity and expanding the window of which our voters vote will be determinative of our success in 2024.
00:16:43.000 They can run John Fetterman for president and be successful with their current machine and the lack of one on the Republican Party.
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00:17:54.000 I'm not advocating for election machines.
00:17:57.000 I think some of you thought that.
00:17:58.000 You said, Charlie, why are you advocating for election?
00:18:01.000 No, I was saying the metaphorical political machinery.
00:18:04.000 I think we should go to all paper ballots, and I think we should count them without any machines whatsoever.
00:18:10.000 Just want to make sure my opinion here is clear.
00:18:14.000 The Democrats have built a metaphorical political machine.
00:18:18.000 They have physical machines too.
00:18:20.000 That's a separate important issue.
00:18:21.000 But the issue that I'm talking about is they have ballot chasers.
00:18:25.000 They have ballot cures.
00:18:27.000 They have people that are in the courts fighting for lawfare.
00:18:31.000 And they've built this permanent election infrastructure in a couple states, in particular, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Georgia, and Arizona.
00:18:39.000 This infrastructure is about $150 to $200 million every cycle to sustain.
00:18:45.000 This is why they revere Stacey Abrams, despite the fact that she's never really won a major election except being a state senator. 0.56
00:18:53.000 The reason they really like Stacey Abrams is Stacey Abrams successfully was able to hire the people, onboard them, and put them to work to, of course, do things full of shenanigans and sneaky operations.
00:19:07.000 But the point is that Georgia has now become a quote-unquote blue state, which is nonsense in some regard, but it has two Democrat senators.
00:19:14.000 It sent electoral votes to the Electoral College for Joe Biden.
00:19:18.000 And look, I'm not saying these people won.
00:19:20.000 That's a separate issue.
00:19:21.000 I'm saying that they were able to get more pieces of paper into the ballot tabulation process than Republicans.
00:19:27.000 And that is the game.
00:19:28.000 And so we will be successful or unsuccessful in 2024, less about Joe Biden's messaging.
00:19:35.000 And that does matter a little bit.
00:19:36.000 That matters on the margins, 10,000 votes here, 20,000 votes there, 30,000 votes there, 40,000 votes there.
00:19:41.000 That stuff does matter.
00:19:42.000 More important, though, can you get the election close so then your machine, the ballot chasers, the operatives on the ground, the community organizers are eventually then able to get you to a place where they can deem you the winner.
00:19:58.000 This is exactly why I was so focused at the RNC, the Republican National Committee race.
00:20:03.000 Obviously, our effort, we were not successful.
00:20:06.000 However, I have zero reservations about what I did.
00:20:08.000 I'm really thankful I did because we fought as hard as we could.
00:20:10.000 I wish more people would have gotten involved.
00:20:13.000 But the machinery matters.
00:20:16.000 Okay, so let's get to some pieces of tape here from last evening.
00:20:18.000 And then in just a couple minutes, I'm going to play some breaking news tape.
00:20:22.000 Apparently, my Twitter account has been a subject of discussion at a congressional oversight hearing, which I'm very interested.
00:20:32.000 And I haven't even heard the clip, and so I'm just told that that happened.
00:20:35.000 But I want to play some of these pieces of tape here of Joe Biden speaking.
00:20:39.000 So messaging does matter a little bit.
00:20:41.000 They're going to try to appropriate populist nationalism.
00:20:44.000 They're confident, though.
00:20:45.000 They are confident that if they just lie and they lace our messaging within that, that their political beast, their data operation, the artificial intelligence, the modeling, the predictive behavior, the back-end access they have to social media sites, they believe that their death star, if you will, will be able to produce a favorable outcome for them regardless of who they run.
00:21:11.000 And I am not joking.
00:21:13.000 They are so confident in it.
00:21:15.000 They think that they could run John Fetterman for the presidency and he would be successful.
00:21:19.000 Okay, let's just go to some of the highlights here.
00:21:22.000 I don't know if you can call them highlights, though.
00:21:24.000 I don't think that's exactly fair.
00:21:26.000 Let's go to this one here.
00:21:29.000 Joe Biden talking about Xi Jiping, play cut 63.
00:21:34.000 No mention of a balloon, by the way.
00:21:36.000 Play cut 63.
00:21:37.000 We face serious challenges across the world, but in the past two years, democracies have become stronger, not weaker.
00:21:44.000 Autocracy has grown weaker, not stronger.
00:21:46.000 Name me a world leader who changed places with Xi Jinping.
00:21:51.000 Name me one.
00:21:52.000 Name me one.
00:21:54.000 America's rallying the world to meet those challenges from climate to global health to food insecurity to terrorism to territorial aggression.
00:22:03.000 Allies are stepping up, spending more and doing more.
00:22:06.000 At times throughout the speech, at times, I felt like I was watching a different country's State of the Union.
00:22:15.000 The values that he was espousing as important, as necessary, or critical were so distant from what I know are core American values.
00:22:25.000 At times, he did moderate himself and anchored himself in just normal, common sense, poll-tested narratives, which, of course, he doesn't believe a word of.
00:22:34.000 But here's just one example.
00:22:35.000 He says, let's pass the Bipartisan Equality Act to ensure LGBTQ Americans, especially transgender young people, can live with dignity and safety, aka get their private parts chopped off, be chemically castrated, be preyed on by the psychiatric industry, all the while going after nonprofits and churches. 0.93
00:22:56.000 The Equality Act is anything but equality.
00:22:58.000 The, if you will, the teeth on the Equality Act is the penalization of churches or nonprofits that do not believe in their modern definition of marriage, which is not marriage at all.
00:23:13.000 It's their new definition of it.
00:23:15.000 I think Kirsten Sinemo is super enthusiastic about this.
00:23:19.000 Shouldn't shock you.
00:23:20.000 Play Cut 59. 0.99
00:23:22.000 Well, already more than a dozen states are enforcing extreme abortion bans. 0.98
00:23:25.000 Make no mistake about it.
00:23:27.000 If Congress passes a national ban, I will veto it.
00:23:32.000 But let's also pass.
00:23:37.000 It's also passed the Bipartisan Equality Act to ensure LGBTQ Americans, especially transgender young people, can live with safety and dignity.
00:23:48.000 Fars Trent! 0.97
00:23:53.000 Kirsten Sinema looks like an attendee at a Hunger Games gala.
00:23:58.000 Right there.
00:23:59.000 There it is.
00:24:00.000 When Hollywood precedes reality, it's quite a thing.
00:24:05.000 There's so many other moments that we could highlight here.
00:24:08.000 But again, there was this kind of here and there appropriation of MAGA.
00:24:13.000 This should bother you.
00:24:15.000 It should bother you that Republicans are so bad at representing their voters that it opens up an opportunity for Joe Biden to just kind of swoop in and to pretend to not be a Marxist neoliberal, which of course he is.
00:24:30.000 Let's go to this one here, cut 62.
00:24:34.000 Before I came to office, the story was about how the People's Republic of China was increasing its power and America was failing in the world.
00:24:44.000 Not anymore.
00:24:45.000 Not anymore.
00:24:47.000 So we can keep on going through all the different examples.
00:24:52.000 The one I do want, though, and I only heard the clip once.
00:24:54.000 I want to make sure I heard it correctly, was Joe Biden.
00:24:57.000 It seemed to be somewhat extemporaneously.
00:24:59.000 I don't think it was scripted, saying that we only need one more decade of fossil fuels.
00:25:07.000 Email us your thoughtfreedom at charliekirk.com.
00:25:10.000 I want to get to a piece of tape here of what just happened in the congressional hearing.
00:25:14.000 Apparently, I am a topic of discussion.
00:25:18.000 Play cut 80 of what's happened.
00:25:22.000 We're going to watch it for the first time together.
00:25:24.000 My Twitter account seems to be Congressional News Today, PlayCut 80.
00:25:29.000 Let's look at Mr. Kirk's account.
00:25:30.000 Ms. Gaddy, can I get you to read the yellow labels on Mr. Kirk's account?
00:25:34.000 Can you see those?
00:25:35.000 I'm sorry, I can't see them from right here.
00:25:37.000 All right.
00:25:37.000 Let me ask you, what is a search blacklist?
00:25:41.000 I do not know specifically what that is, but I could make a guess if that would be helpful.
00:25:46.000 Why don't you make a guess for me, please?
00:25:49.000 We do.
00:25:51.000 When I was at Twitter, there was an ability to prevent something from appearing in one of the tabs of search results.
00:25:59.000 Okay, thank you.
00:26:01.000 What does Do Not Amplify mean?
00:26:05.000 To the best of my recollection, when I was at Twitter, it would mean that we would not recommend or amplify that content in the parts of Twitter where Twitter was making recommendations.
00:26:14.000 Thank you, ma'am.
00:26:15.000 All about my Twitter account.
00:26:17.000 I wish I would have known this hearing was happening because I could have asked them a lot sharper follow-up questions than that.
00:26:23.000 He did a great job.
00:26:24.000 Who is this guy from Tennessee, great Knoxville, Tennessee?
00:26:28.000 What is his name?
00:26:30.000 Bruchette, God bless him.
00:26:32.000 Thank you for doing that.
00:26:33.000 I do think that there could have been a little bit more precise follow-up there.
00:26:38.000 Let's play cut 79.
00:26:39.000 I think this is Jim Jordan.
00:26:41.000 We're watching this for the first time, play cut 79.
00:26:44.000 Ms. Gaddy, Charlie Kirk and Dan Bongino are conservative commentators.
00:26:48.000 Is that a fair characteristic?
00:26:50.000 Just yes or no, be fine.
00:26:54.000 I believe so, but I'm not familiar with them.
00:26:57.000 The posters behind me show the side of Twitter that is not available to users.
00:27:01.000 Is that correct?
00:27:03.000 This appears to be a view of some of our agent tooling, but I do not have access to that, so I'm not very familiar with that.
00:27:10.000 Okay, well, Ms. Gaddy, the labels identify status that have been assigned to these accounts.
00:27:15.000 Is that correct?
00:27:17.000 I don't know.
00:27:18.000 Ma'am, these are your internal things.
00:27:20.000 You're telling me you don't receive these.
00:27:22.000 You don't know what they mean.
00:27:24.000 She better be careful. 0.94
00:27:26.000 Not under this regime, but if we do win back the White House in 2024 and we get our act together, lying to Congress can land you in jail.
00:27:38.000 So she better be careful.
00:27:42.000 Cut 82 continues with the oversight of Twitter, PlayCut 82.
00:27:46.000 So the user knows when their account's been suspended or blocked, but they don't know when they have some of these gold terms that were under Mr. Bongino and Mr. Kirk.
00:27:57.000 Is that right, Mr. Roth?
00:27:59.000 As of the time that I worked at Twitter, yes, that's correct.
00:28:02.000 So they don't know if they're on the don't search on the search blacklist.
00:28:05.000 They don't know if they're on the do not amplify.
00:28:07.000 They don't know that.
00:28:08.000 That's correct.
00:28:09.000 Twitter did not disclose that.
00:28:10.000 You did that to these two accounts.
00:28:12.000 What I want to know, was that, did you know, Mr. Roth, if that was at the prompting of anyone from the government?
00:28:17.000 Gentlemen, time's expired, but please answer the question.
00:28:20.000 No, sir, I'm not aware of any requests or orders or demands or anything from the government requesting that visibility filtering be applied to those accounts or any others.
00:28:29.000 Yeah, look, that's a really important question because Yoel Roth was bragging internally that he would have a standing weekly meeting with the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
00:28:40.000 So he might be lying.
00:28:41.000 He might be telling the truth.
00:28:42.000 But Jordan had the perfect follow-up, which is who actually put Charlie Kirk and Dan Bongino's Twitter account into the threat assessment tag of do not amplify.
00:28:54.000 This did not just happen out of nowhere.
00:28:56.000 It didn't happen organically.
00:28:57.000 It didn't happen out of the sky.
00:28:59.000 It did not happen ex nihilo out of nothing.
00:29:04.000 There was a reason why this happened.
00:29:05.000 And what is that reason, Yoel Roth?
00:29:07.000 And he tap dances around the question.
00:29:11.000 And of course, slippery, you know, in a very slippery way, tries to avoid answering it.
00:29:17.000 Vijaya Gotti says, look, in hindsight, Twitter should have reinstated the Post account immediately, the New York Post account.
00:29:23.000 Yeah.
00:29:23.000 And this is what's so interesting, isn't it?
00:29:25.000 So we can do unethical, immoral things, like shutting down the New York Post Twitter account in the midst of a presidential election.
00:29:36.000 But then once the election is over, they can be like, yeah, it was a mistake.
00:29:39.000 But they knew what they were doing.
00:29:41.000 The push from Labor Day to Election Day, 2020, morals, ethics were cast aside to displace a ruler.
00:29:55.000 I don't think we use the analogy enough with the deep state going after Trump and all that, but it's very similar.
00:30:03.000 If you read the Shakespearean drama Julius Caesar, it's very similar to kind of the inner reasoning that a lot of people around Caesar use that we got to get rid of this guy.
00:30:14.000 Brutus thought of himself as a stoic.
00:30:17.000 I don't think it's very stoic to kill the emperor.
00:30:19.000 Play cut 75.
00:30:21.000 At no point did Twitter otherwise prevent tweeting, reporting, discussing, or describing the contents of Mr. Biden's laptop.
00:30:28.000 People could and did talk about the contents of the laptop on Twitter or anywhere else, including other much larger platforms, but they were prevented from sharing the primary documents on Twitter.
00:30:39.000 As Mr. Dorsey testified before Congress on multiple occasions, Twitter changed its policy within 24 hours and admitted its initial action was wrong.
00:30:48.000 In hindsight, Twitter should have reinstated the Post account immediately.
00:30:52.000 Yeah, in hindsight, we should have reinstated it, but they got what they wanted, which is regime change.
00:30:57.000 And the intelligence agencies are good at that.
00:30:59.000 Jordan is touching on the most important point of this, because these are all former employees that are lawyered up to the heavens.
00:31:05.000 But Jordan is starting to get to the central nervous system of why this story matters, Jordan being Jim Jordan.
00:31:12.000 And Jim Jordan is foreshadowing and tilting the weaponization of government committee, which is going to be a lot more consequential and have real teeth and hopefully get to something that is really, really important, which is: all right, yeah, you guys are all a bunch of wokey activists.
00:31:27.000 You're pseudo-academic professors and all that sort of stuff.
00:31:32.000 But did our government tell you to do it?
00:31:35.000 That's really important.
00:31:37.000 And I think Jordan is looking to move ahead, which I find to be really important and critical.
00:31:44.000 Was our own federal government actively involved, interested, insistent, incentivizing the censorship activity of Twitter?
00:31:56.000 Was there a public-private partnership working in tandem between the employees at Twitter and their behaviors and the federal Bureau of Investigation, maybe Department of Homeland Security, unlikely the Central Intelligence Agency, but it's just anything goes now?
00:32:13.000 I wouldn't be surprised if the CIA was involved with Twitter for international type stuff.
00:32:20.000 I bet they had another embed.
00:32:23.000 But Jim Jordan is going a level deeper and he deserves credit for that.
00:32:27.000 I don't know if he'll be successful or not, but he certainly is trying and he's going in the right direction, which is like, okay, oh, you guys are a bunch of activists, whatever, it's fine, but we're not actually going to be able to get structural, meaningful change and/or revelations until we find out how the federal government is involved.
00:32:46.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:32:47.000 Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:32:51.000 Thank you so much for listening, and God bless.
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