The Charlie Kirk Show - Everything You Need to Know About the Durham Annex Bombsells

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show from the Bitcoin mobile studio.

00:00:04.000 Andrew Colvet, executive producer of this fine show.

00:00:08.000 I'm in for Charlie today.

00:00:09.000 He's on assignment, but we unpack in detail everything you need to know about what we learned from the Durham Annex report that was just declassified by Chuck Grassley, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

00:00:25.000 He declassified it so we could dive into it.

00:00:28.000 I go into the most salacious details.

00:00:31.000 I brick by brick make the case for why this is one of, if not the greatest political scandals and cover-ups in our history.

00:00:41.000 And then we bring in Alex Marlow, author of the new book, Breaking the Law, to explain why the media is complicit in the silence and they are not picking up this story, which is full of bombshells.

00:00:54.000 We break that down and so much more.

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00:02:28.000 We want to cover the Russia hoax. 0.60

00:02:32.000 Russia, Russia, Russia.

00:02:34.000 There's so much to go over.

00:02:35.000 There's so many little nuances and details here.

00:02:38.000 So I want you to sit back, relax, and listen as we walk through detail after detail here.

00:02:47.000 And the team and Charlie posted a tweet yesterday that even the FBI director Cash Patel quote tweeted and said this is a great summary of what's going on.

00:03:00.000 So we've been diving into this a lot.

00:03:01.000 I have Blake and the team in the studio diving through everything, researching everything.

00:03:08.000 I've been looking through everything.

00:03:10.000 It's a lot here.

00:03:12.000 And so let me just give you the basics of the Russia-Russia-Russia hoax.

00:03:18.000 And Chuck Grassley is calling it one of the biggest political scandals and cover-ups in American history.

00:03:25.000 Jonathan Turley is calling it an elaborate political illusion.

00:03:28.000 And now it's like you're on stage magic show and they bring one of the attendees up on stage and you can't figure out how the trick worked.

00:03:37.000 Well, now we're getting to see how the trick worked, how they pulled off one of the biggest scandals in American history.

00:03:46.000 And there's a little bit of, I would say, caution, at least on one piece of evidence that we need to exercise here.

00:03:53.000 And I'll get to that in just a second.

00:03:54.000 But here's the rundown.

00:03:55.000 Yesterday, Chuck Grassley, right before our show yesterday, Chuck Grassley's office released a previously classified 29-page annex to the 300-page 2023 Durham report.

00:04:10.000 And apparently, this was hard.

00:04:14.000 This took a lot of coordination between the CIA and the FBI to release this report to declassify it to the public.

00:04:21.000 So thank you to both of the leaderships in those and those agencies.

00:04:25.000 So the main thrust of this annex is that U.S. intelligence collected reports from a Russian source suggesting that Russia had discovered a plan by Hillary Clinton in the Clinton campaign to concoct false ties between the Trump campaign and Russia as a campaign tactic.

00:04:47.000 And I want you to take your mind back into this timeframe in 2016.

00:04:51.000 Hillary Clinton was under increasing scrutiny for her use of a private email server, very highly sensitive and classified documents, government documents.

00:05:02.000 And that's all anybody wanted to talk about.

00:05:04.000 Remember the main moment on a debate stage during the primary between Bernie and Hillary? 0.99

00:05:10.000 And Bernie even said, I'm sick of talking about damn emails or whatever. 0.98

00:05:13.000 Well, the American people were not sick of talking about emails. 0.99

00:05:17.000 And Hillary Clinton knew that. 0.94

00:05:19.000 And so this whole scheme gets concocted.

00:05:22.000 Well, guess what?

00:05:22.000 We're going to drop scandalous lies about President Trump to distract from the email server.

00:05:31.000 Now, see, the annex is still significantly redacted, but it appears that the contents are based on Russia successfully hacking various left-wing think tanks and organizations back in 2016 and then creating intelligence reports about what they found.

00:05:49.000 So a lot of these have been translated from Russian.

00:05:51.000 You'll see this later.

00:05:53.000 One of these reports, translated from Russian, describes a purported email sent by Leonard Bernardo, an official at the Soros-funded Open Society Foundations.

00:06:04.000 These emails, if they're real, say that Hillary Clinton personally approved a plan.

00:06:10.000 Right?

00:06:11.000 So this is interesting.

00:06:11.000 So with the DNI bombshells from Tulsi Gabbard, we learned that Obama personally directed a new assessment, a new intel assessment.

00:06:19.000 Well, in this case, we learned that Hillary Clinton personally approved a plan by her advisor, Julianne Smith, to quote, smear Donald Trump by magnifying the scandal tied to the intrusion by the Russian special services in the pre-election process.

00:06:35.000 Now, that's special services.

00:06:37.000 Remember that expression because it's a translation from Russian, special services.

00:06:42.000 In another email allegedly sent by Bernardo, he declares that once the Clinton campaign launches their smear campaign, quote, later the FBI will put more oil into the fire.

00:06:56.000 In other words, the report seems to be describing a plan for the Clinton campaign and the FBI to coordinate in the pure concoction, the invention of a Trump-Russia collusion narrative.

00:07:10.000 So let me repeat: their plan was to weaponize the Intel community.

00:07:17.000 They knew with alarming specificity, according to the Durham Annex, how this would play out.

00:07:25.000 So either they knew the rhythms of the FBI and how this would be investigated, which is the more, let's say, generous interpretation, or there was direct collaboration between Clinton campaign operatives and FBI assets or FBI personnel, knowing exactly the sequence of events that would play out.

00:07:46.000 They knew that they could launder this salacious investigation, this concocted, manufactured, steel dossier Russia collusion hoax through the FBI and through the IC in order to put oil on the fire.

00:08:03.000 All of this happened in July 2016, way before the November election, and just days before the FBI launched Crossfire Hurricane, the very controversial investigation.

00:08:17.000 Now, this is the one note of caution that I want to pause on.

00:08:22.000 So this is dated July 27, 2016.

00:08:27.000 It seems the Durham team tried to authenticate these emails.

00:08:32.000 At first, there was an assessment that they were authentic.

00:08:36.000 So the running assumption at first was that they were reliable.

00:08:41.000 Then they were called into question.

00:08:44.000 So they found some evidence that the emails were actually a composite of emails from several different sources that the Russians were able to hack in the summer of 2016.

00:08:56.000 For example, large parts of one of the supposed Bonardo emails actually has identical language to a different email from Tim Maurer, a figure at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

00:09:08.000 So what does that mean?

00:09:10.000 We don't know.

00:09:11.000 It could be some zombie amalgamation of different sources put together for quick reading.

00:09:19.000 We don't know why these emails match each other.

00:09:23.000 But even if these emails are fake, the U.S. government actually became, this is what we know, the U.S. government became aware of these Russia reports right away.

00:09:33.000 John Brennan, who more and more is appearing to be the chief villain in all of this, briefed President Obama about these Russian reports in early August 2016 at virtually the same moment that Crossfire Hurricane was getting started.

00:09:49.000 So they knew without a shadow of a doubt that Russians, at least, believe there was a plot for the FBI to boost the Clinton campaign by investigating Trump.

00:10:01.000 And guess what?

00:10:02.000 The FBI knew this, and instead of pulling back, investigating the Clinton campaign, what did they do?

00:10:09.000 They investigated President Trump anyways.

00:10:14.000 So let's dive into this email again, this Leonard Bernardo email.

00:10:20.000 Open Societies guy says, HRC, Hillary Rodham Clinton, approved Julia's idea about Trump and Russian hackers hampering U.S. elections. 1.00

00:10:30.000 This should distract people from her own missing email, especially if the affair goes to the Olympic level.

00:10:37.000 The point is making the Russian play a U.S. domestic issue.

00:10:43.000 Say something like critical infrastructure threat for the election to feel menace, since both POTUS and Vice POTUS have acknowledged the fact IC would speed up searching for evidence that regrettably is still unavailable.

00:10:56.000 They're telling you that they knew the way this was going to play out.

00:11:00.000 They're telling you that they manufactured intelligence to smear Trump and they hoped it would go to the Olympic level.

00:11:06.000 And guess who they used?

00:11:07.000 The U.S. media.

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00:12:06.000 I'm going to give you a piece of tape here from Robbie Mook.

00:12:08.000 He was the campaign manager, Hillary for America, in 2016.

00:12:13.000 This is him with Jake Tapper.

00:12:15.000 And I want you to pay close attention to how this was laundered into the public domain.

00:12:22.000 All of these lies, these concoctions, again, July 2016.

00:12:26.000 This is far before this became a major, major Intel community-led scandal that ended up leading to a special counsel with Robert Moeller and the hijacking of Trump's almost his entire first term.

00:12:42.000 Dramatic the consequences that this lie ultimately had.

00:12:45.000 551.

00:12:46.000 What's disturbing to us is that we, experts are telling us that Russian state actors broke into the DNC, stole these emails, and other experts are now saying that the Russians are releasing these emails for the purpose of actually helping Donald Trump.

00:13:02.000 I think we need to be concerned that we also saw last week at the Republican convention that Trump and his allies made changes to the Republican platform to make it more pro-Russian.

00:13:13.000 And we saw him talking about how NATO shouldn't intervene to defend, necessarily should intervene to defend our Eastern European allies if they're attacked by Russia.

00:13:21.000 So I think when you put all this together, it's a disturbing picture.

00:13:24.000 And I think voters need to reflect on that.

00:13:27.000 Did you see that?

00:13:29.000 Jake Tapper, CNN, looking for a little convention bounce.

00:13:34.000 They had it all planned out, folks.

00:13:36.000 And this is another piece of the Durham Annex that is going viral right now.

00:13:40.000 It's page four and five.

00:13:42.000 And it deals.

00:13:44.000 So one point I want to make very clear to people is that yes, Russia was hacking emails.

00:13:49.000 Here's what I want to make very clear to people, though.

00:13:52.000 Yes, the Russians were hacking emails.

00:13:53.000 Guess what?

00:13:54.000 The reason we have the Durham Annex is because we were hacking Russia's emails.

00:14:00.000 People hack, the countries hack each other's stuff all the time. 0.99

00:14:03.000 That is not the key distinction I want you to focus on.

00:14:08.000 This happens all the time.

00:14:09.000 What the hoax, the illusion, the prestige is that they were concocting a narrative that there was collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia and that Russia wanted Trump to win.

00:14:25.000 Both of those allegations, both of those lies are what they are.

00:14:30.000 They are false.

00:14:31.000 They are manufactured.

00:14:33.000 They're cooked intel and they were laundered into the intelligence community, the FBI, because they knew the FBI would add credence and credibility to them, which they did.

00:14:42.000 So this is one of the things I want to say on this is on page four.

00:14:47.000 So it says, among other things, the Clinton staff would, with support from special services, again, you got to remember, this is translated from Russian, is preparing scandalous revelations of business relations between Trump and the Russian mafia.

00:15:03.000 And if you go to page five, it says, with regard to discussion in that last paragraph of his scandalous revelations that the Clinton staff was preparing with support from special services, the word that FBI linguist translated special services are Russian words that one analyst believed at the time referred to the FBI and the CIA or more broadly to the intelligence communities.

00:15:29.000 So this is a huge, and basically another analyst caveating in that it was speculation said that perhaps the phrase special services in this context could refer to Trump dossier author Christopher Steele, who, according to media reports and Steele's own testimony in UK legal proceedings, formerly worked as an intelligence professional for the British government.

00:15:53.000 So they knew that there was coordination between the Hillary Clinton campaign and special services, i.e., Christopher Steele.

00:16:08.000 So let's sum this all up really quick.

00:16:11.000 And I think it's important because there is a lot to track here, but it's easy to kind of figure it out.

00:16:18.000 So Chuck Grassley, I'm going to recap, releases these documents, declassifies them.

00:16:24.000 Here's what we now know.

00:16:25.000 The FBI knew the Russia collusion hoax arose from the Clinton campaign, and then they ignored key intel to cover it up.

00:16:32.000 The FBI knew.

00:16:33.000 The Clinton campaign's plan was to use or possibly coordinate with the Obama FBI to accelerate the narrative and leak it into U.S. press outlets.

00:16:43.000 The FBI placed thousands of relevant documents in burn bags for destruction, and then Cash Patel found them in a secret room at the FBI.

00:16:53.000 That's why we have this.

00:16:54.000 Hillary Clinton approved of that plan to concoct a Donald Trump colluding with Russia narrative.

00:17:00.000 She personally did it in order to distract the public from her email server. 0.95

00:17:05.000 The original DNI report that we now know from Tulsi Gabbard from late 2016 rightly said that Russia didn't favor Trump and didn't work to elect Trump, even holding back damaging intel on Hillary.

00:17:19.000 Obama nevertheless ordered a new assessment that said Russia did.

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00:18:29.000 All right, without further ado, the great Alex Marlowe.

00:18:31.000 Welcome, welcome, welcome, Alex.

00:18:33.000 Thanks for making the time.

00:18:34.000 I know you were taking some much-needed summer vacay, so vacation.

00:18:40.000 So you've made it back and you're coming back to it.

00:18:44.000 I barely made it back.

00:18:45.000 I barely made it back.

00:18:46.000 I survived the tsunami.

00:18:48.000 Yeah, you were.

00:18:49.000 I mean, I didn't want to be specific about locations and times and places because we are having an intel community conversation.

00:18:56.000 But yeah, you were in the islands.

00:18:58.000 You were in Hawaii.

00:19:00.000 I had a Andride, a first-floor, westward-facing hotel room about, I would say, not even a sandwich, like a hard-hit putt from the beach.

00:19:11.000 And so I was in one of the worst spots on planet Earth according to all of the initial prognostications.

00:19:16.000 And there was a moment there where I was with my family of six.

00:19:19.000 I've got four small children.

00:19:21.000 I was thinking, like, is this our last day on Earth?

00:19:23.000 Like, literally, that was the vibe for about five minutes.

00:19:26.000 And then it ended up, what I did is I got everyone in the car and I know the area fairly well.

00:19:31.000 We vacationed up there quite a bit.

00:19:33.000 And I went to the iconic plantation golf course at Kapalua and we drove up 500 feet and we camped out there.

00:19:40.000 And my kids played zombies on the 18th fairway while I anxiously checked my phone to see if the apocalypse was coming.

00:19:46.000 And Andrew, the waves, I don't even think they made it to just average high tide.

00:19:52.000 Like there wasn't even no tsunami.

00:19:54.000 There was nothing.

00:19:55.000 And we were just all up there panicking.

00:19:57.000 And I was like sleeping on a cart path and the bugs were biting me and the government wasn't telling us anything.

00:20:02.000 And then people online were wondering why I was complaining on X, the Everything app.

00:20:08.000 But I thought, they're not telling me anything.

00:20:09.000 We're up here.

00:20:10.000 We're all hundreds of people and no one's getting told anything about what's going on about whether or not we're all dead or not.

00:20:16.000 I'm so glad you're that we really did need a post-mortem for that because we were looking at the reports too, you know, praying for Hawaii, all this stuff.

00:20:24.000 And then I woke up in the morning and, you know, there was nothing.

00:20:28.000 A complete nothing burger.

00:20:30.000 I don't know how we got it so wrong, but thank God.

00:20:31.000 Maybe it was divine intervention.

00:20:33.000 Maybe the system worked.

00:20:34.000 It's a consideration.

00:20:35.000 It is a consideration.

00:20:36.000 It definitely crossed my mind.

00:20:37.000 I mean, not to be, and I'm not being glib or sarcastic at all.

00:20:40.000 I think it did cross my mind because it was like, is this going to be something that's going to devastate the whole planet?

00:20:46.000 And then it was literally a four-foot wave.

00:20:50.000 I mean, that was just, it was nothing.

00:20:52.000 So it was unbelievable.

00:20:54.000 You know, one, one, one tsunami that did end up materializing was this Russia hoax.

00:21:00.000 And it really did.

00:21:01.000 I mean, they placed it in the, they laundered that intel, that fake intel from the Russian dossier to the Intel community and the FBI.

00:21:11.000 There was a coordinated attempt.

00:21:13.000 They knew about it.

00:21:14.000 It was a plan to distract from the Clinton email private server controversy.

00:21:19.000 Alex, I want you to take a step back here.

00:21:22.000 Sure.

00:21:22.000 And I want you to just, I mean, as somebody who's been in this space for a long time, understands the history of hoaxes and political scandals, where do you rank this?

00:21:32.000 And I want to start.

00:21:35.000 What stands out the most to you?

00:21:37.000 Yeah.

00:21:37.000 So I thinking about ranking it, it's funny you asked that because I was thinking about the same thing because you guys have been kind enough to talk about my forthcoming book, Breaking the Law, which is out next week.

00:21:46.000 And hopefully we'll talk more about it, which I regard the Biden White House coordinated lawfare against Trump to try to rig an election to be the greatest hoax of all time, or at least of the century.

00:21:59.000 And so that's number one.

00:22:01.000 But I would see the case that this is on that level a close second because it really did hijack an entire presidential term.

00:22:07.000 They were attempting to nullify the 2016 election.

00:22:11.000 This was their way of trying to make it right when the media got too arrogant and too overconfident.

00:22:17.000 They thought Hillary Clinton was such a sure thing that it was impossible for Donald Trump to win.

00:22:22.000 They thought it was such a lock, which was so amazing because I actually was one of the people who thought Trump was going to win.

00:22:27.000 Maybe it's just because I was living it every day from very early al-really, even before Trump.

00:22:33.000 I didn't.

00:22:34.000 Yeah, but I didn't, I didn't think, I didn't think Trump had a chance.

00:22:37.000 I'll be honest.

00:22:38.000 I mean, I think election night on 2016, I'm not proud of that.

00:22:42.000 I mean, I'm probably some people in the audience are upset at me right now.

00:22:44.000 I just didn't think it was going to happen.

00:22:46.000 I didn't, I, I, I, you know, I believed the fake polls or whatever.

00:22:50.000 And I was just like, yeah, and that was the consensus, but I don't know.

00:22:54.000 Maybe it was my time on talk radio and just leading the newsroom at Breitbart, but I felt like the people were really with us.

00:23:00.000 And I thought the Democrats were going to catch him sleeping.

00:23:03.000 And that's what happened.

00:23:03.000 And this was their way to make it right.

00:23:05.000 They were trying to make it right by just, we're just going to hijack the whole administration.

00:23:09.000 We're going to make it so that he can't do anything and that he's hamstrung.

00:23:13.000 And we're going to use our allies in the establishment media to make sure that we do that.

00:23:18.000 Yeah.

00:23:18.000 And Alex, I want to dive into this particular point.

00:23:21.000 You're a newsman.

00:23:22.000 You're the editor-in-chief of Breitbart News.

00:23:24.000 Everybody needs to check it out.

00:23:25.000 One of my daily go-tos.

00:23:27.000 So, Alex, from a media perspective, and I love the way Turley, I spent a lot of time going through Jonathan Turley this morning, but he basically says the reason that they are not, the media will not cover this story, the new revelation, is because it's not so much reporting as a confession.

00:23:46.000 That they would have to own up to the fact that they were either Patsies or co-conspirators in one of the greatest political hoaxes of all time.

00:23:55.000 And they're not just not simply not willing to eat crow that much and do it.

00:23:58.000 What's your take on the media coverage or lack thereof from this?

00:24:03.000 This is a huge problem with the media.

00:24:05.000 And he's correct to identify this because you can apply this to any number of major media stories where the establishment gets it wrong initially.

00:24:13.000 Is that they get cognitive dissonance that how could I have been wrong?

00:24:16.000 I'm the elite.

00:24:17.000 I'm the one who pays the closest attention.

00:24:19.000 I'm the smartest.

00:24:20.000 They all think of themselves that way.

00:24:22.000 And then when they get one wrong, their instinct isn't to be, well, let me correct this quickly so I can restore credibility.

00:24:29.000 It's no, how do I rearrange the facts?

00:24:33.000 And how do I concoct a narrative to get to some answer that I was actually right?

00:24:38.000 And you'll see this a lot, even with some people that you like in conservative media.

00:24:42.000 We saw this a bit after some of the people who had warned against the worst case scenarios for the Iran attack then announced that they were correct afterwards when they weren't correct in their assessment.

00:24:52.000 And some of these people are my friends.

00:24:53.000 I'm not trying to pick on people.

00:24:55.000 It's just the nature of the media beast is that people are more inclined when they get one wrong to announce, no, really, I'm right.

00:25:02.000 You just don't understand it and gaslight you in that way rather than just own up to it.

00:25:06.000 And so this certainly happened here when it became clear after really just a few months.

00:25:10.000 I got to say, Andrew, that there's my favorite clip I ever did in media.

00:25:14.000 I was on Bill Maher show about nine months into the Russian collusion hoax.

00:25:17.000 And I said that I've seen enough and this is a hoax.

00:25:20.000 It's not real.

00:25:21.000 And if you show me some evidence, I'll come back and I'll eat crow in front of your show and your audience.

00:25:26.000 And we never learn anything.

00:25:28.000 And we're still learning how the say in, we're now seven years afterwards, eight years after, and we're still learning that there's nothing connecting Trump in Russia.

00:25:38.000 This should have been completely over with after the Mueller report.

00:25:41.000 And yet it continues to this day.

00:25:42.000 If you pin down Pencil Neck Adam Schiff and you ask him, is Trump a Russian asset?

00:25:46.000 He will 100% tell you that he is because Pencil Neck cannot come to grips with the fact that he's been wrong all these years.

00:25:52.000 He'll never admit it to himself.

00:25:54.000 And all of his allies in the media are the same way.

00:25:57.000 This is a big fundamental problem with American journalism right now.

00:26:00.000 My question is, can this really result in the, I think the outcome.

00:26:07.000 Listen, I think I have a sober view of what's possible here.

00:26:12.000 I mean, I think Obama is completely not.

00:26:15.000 I mean, he's going to be fine.

00:26:17.000 Maybe it will tarnish his legacy.

00:26:19.000 We're not getting Obama.

00:26:20.000 You know, you could argue it from five different ways, but potentially the Supreme Court ruling on presidential immunity is going to shield him in this instance.

00:26:29.000 That's a very real outcome.

00:26:31.000 What I do think is possible is potentially getting Brennan, maybe Comey, Clapper, but Brennan for sure.

00:26:39.000 But the question is: will any of these investigations result in accountability, Alex, if the mainstream U.S. media that is consumed rapidly within the DC corridor, the Hasella corridor, if they do not get on board, if they do not put their stamp of approval that there is something dramatically wrong and sinister that happened here?

00:27:04.000 And if we, you know, if you can't, if they're, if this isn't a smoking gun, I don't know what it is, but they're still writing op-eds.

00:27:11.000 I mean, Comey, or actually, it was Clapper and Brennan wrote an op-ed in the New York Times denying it all.

00:27:17.000 And they're setting the record straight.

00:27:18.000 So they still think that they can lever the media in the U.S. to sort of be their smokescreen and protect them from accountability here.

00:27:27.000 Alex, if we don't have that, has the media landscape changed enough that it simply no longer matters?

00:27:33.000 If the DC media elite do not get on board with what really happened here, can we still get accountability?

00:27:39.000 Yeah, this is the big question for lawmakers, is the big question for the conservative legal apparatus: is what pressure can we bring?

00:27:48.000 What investigations need to take place?

00:27:50.000 And can we actually get some perp walks?

00:27:53.000 I will tell you that my audience at Breitbart, vast audience, we're the biggest outlet on social media other than maybe Fox.

00:27:59.000 And we've got, I think, 1% of their budget.

00:28:02.000 And I will tell you that there's a real cynicism in the audience that anyone will actually be held to account.

00:28:08.000 And that the best case scenario is simply that we fire people up, we get the word out so that we make sure that these people are never elected again.

00:28:16.000 And I feel like I'm holding out some hope that maybe with the Trump government, with Tulsi Gabbard, with some of these leaders that we have now, that there is a sense of justice that needs to take place.

00:28:30.000 And maybe they will dazzle us with something.

00:28:32.000 But I have grown so, my expectations are so low at this point that anyone gets held accountable for past crimes.

00:28:39.000 And maybe our best case scenario is simply to win every single election going forward.

00:28:44.000 Yeah, I mean, their utter defeat would be a sweet, sweet vengeance here.

00:28:52.000 Here's the thing.

00:28:52.000 We're going to talk about your book and breaking the law.

00:28:56.000 And I thought it was interesting.

00:28:57.000 You started this by saying actually Joe Biden's crimes against Trump and all the lawfare that Trump survived actually was the greater political scandal.

00:29:06.000 I just think it's amazing that we're still sorting through.

00:29:10.000 I think it's important that we do look back and we do bring accountability and justice to what happened.

00:29:16.000 Because at a minimum, we need to have a full understanding of this atrocity. 0.94

00:29:21.000 And if we can't send Brennan to jail, at least we can make him die in disgrace.

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00:30:24.000 Alex, you have a brand new book out, and I want you to just shamelessly plug it.

00:30:29.000 It comes out next Tuesday, so you can still pre-order it.

00:30:32.000 Help him get on, help him defeat the New York Times, you know, Tommies over there, get him on that list.

00:30:38.000 Breaking the Law by Alex Marlow, the latest in the breaking series.

00:30:43.000 Alex, shameless plug. 0.72

00:30:45.000 I want you to tell the audience everything about it, where they can get it, et cetera.

00:30:49.000 Thank you, Andrew.

00:30:49.000 I really want the grassroots behind this thing because we just survived one of the biggest political scandals of modern times in America, and we're just playing it entirely too cool.

00:31:00.000 It was the Joe Biden White House attempted to jail and bankrupt Donald Trump by any means possible.

00:31:06.000 He had multiple fronts.

00:31:08.000 They were deeply involved in all the various cases.

00:31:10.000 I go through the six major ones against President Trump case by case.

00:31:13.000 And almost at every point, there was coordination at the very top of the Biden government.

00:31:18.000 Biden himself said that we need to lock him up.

00:31:21.000 We need to put Trump in jail.

00:31:22.000 It was always his thing.

00:31:23.000 And it wasn't like Trump doing campaign rhetoric.

00:31:25.000 He was in charge of the U.S. government.

00:31:26.000 He had said that.

00:31:27.000 And this is in the middle of an election.

00:31:29.000 He tried to jail and bankrupt and cruel and unusually punish the standard bearer of the opposite political party.

00:31:35.000 The evidence is crystal clear.

00:31:37.000 I lay it out all out in the book, but this is a most blatant election rigging we've ever seen in this country.

00:31:43.000 We're trying to have a major political party, the one in power, trying to destroy and defeat the other party, not by the ballot box, not with ideas, not with anything remotely resembling democracy, but by using lawfare to try to torture and ultimately jail and bankrupt not just President Trump, but all of his supporters as well to try to cut out his grassroots, to jail people like you, people in this audience.

00:32:07.000 And they did it in many cases.

00:32:09.000 And we're just blowing through it.

00:32:10.000 There's been no justice.

00:32:11.000 There's been no accountability.

00:32:13.000 We need to start the investigations.

00:32:15.000 Head needs to roll and we can never let these people of power again. 1.00

00:32:18.000 Alex Marlowe, editor-in-chief of Breitbart, hosts the Alex Marlow show and author of the new book, Breaking the Law.

00:32:26.000 Congratulations.

00:32:26.000 Comes out on Tuesday, everybody.

00:32:28.000 Pre-order your copy now.

00:32:29.000 Let's destroy the New York Times list and make them cry tears of sadness and all the things.

00:32:36.000 So, Alex, you started our conversation off by saying that you think that the Russia hoax was probably the second greatest hoax in modern American political history.

00:32:49.000 You think what Joe Biden and the coordination from the top to bring down President Trump after between 2020 and 2024 was actually more egregious and more destructive.

00:33:03.000 Explain.

00:33:03.000 Yeah, I could see both sides.

00:33:07.000 The Russia hoax was obviously a huge deal because Trump was duly elected and they tried to nullify the election by using the Russia hoax conspiracy to try to tie him up and to waste his time.

00:33:18.000 But ultimately, Trump was able to govern.

00:33:20.000 He was able to get his footing and to have a full administration.

00:33:23.000 But the whole point of the law fair was to make it so that he couldn't be president at all, to make it so that he's bankrupted and to make it so that he has no movement behind him because it would be too expensive and potentially illegal just to be a part of his inner circle.

00:33:36.000 Think of all the people who went to jail for political purposes, from Steve Bannon to Peter Navarro to Michael Flynn, all these people who were jailed specifically because they were Trump associates, all of the J6 prisoners, the overcharging of all of them, one after the next. 0.89

00:33:50.000 It's all part of this lawfare superstructure that is designed not to bring law and order to this country.

00:33:57.000 Democrats hate law and order, Andrew.

00:33:58.000 I'm from California.

00:34:00.000 They don't even want immigration laws.

00:34:01.000 They don't even want people to sign the guest book when they come in.

00:34:04.000 They're completely comfortable with not prosecuting people unless you commit a felony.

00:34:08.000 And even then, maybe not unless it's a violent felony.

00:34:11.000 And even then, they want to get you back on the street as much as possible.

00:34:14.000 The left hates law and order.

00:34:15.000 They were using the legal system in order to try to rig an election.

00:34:18.000 That's what they were trying to do.

00:34:19.000 And they nearly succeeded.

00:34:21.000 It was only because of the strength of this movement that they survived, that we survived.

00:34:26.000 And it's only because of the incredible nature of Donald Trump himself.

00:34:29.000 But we cannot take this for granted.

00:34:30.000 The superstructure is in place, and they will try to rig the next election and the next one and the next one unless we stop them.

00:34:36.000 It starts with full accountability, investigations, heads need to roll, but then we need to get to work to getting ready to make sure that our margins are even greater next election so that they can never get any more power.

00:34:47.000 Yeah, you know, it's something that we say so often, Alex, that it almost feels like a cliche at this point that, you know, Trump was the only one that could have survived this.

00:34:56.000 And, you know, it's hard when you see it from this vantage point.

00:35:01.000 I mean, we spent the first half hour of this show examining what we just learned from the Durham Annex, that this was concocted by Hillary Clinton, laundered the steel dossier into the intelligence community, into the U.S. press, launches.

00:35:16.000 I mean, it robbed so much, so much of his first term.

00:35:19.000 And yet he kept going.

00:35:21.000 As you said, he managed to get through it and govern.

00:35:25.000 But you could argue they stole 2020.

00:35:27.000 You could argue they stole how much of his own money, time, treasure with in the, you know, they tried to throw him into jail for 700 years in federal prison.

00:35:38.000 It's hard not to think about this in sort of providential terms and sort of, I mean, and I do.

00:35:45.000 I think that became clear in Butler, Pennsylvania last year, which is that clearly there was divine intervention and God is looking out for President Trump and looking out for this country.

00:35:53.000 I think that's without question at this point. 0.98

00:35:55.000 Anyone who doubts is a fool in my mind. 0.87

00:35:57.000 But that doesn't mean that we can rest on our laurels. 0.98

00:36:00.000 We still need to hold the people accountable who tried to bring all of these injustices.

00:36:04.000 Alex, this is a key point because sometimes I'll hear and in the group chats like, oh, we're just looking backwards.

00:36:09.000 We need to govern.

00:36:10.000 We need to govern.

00:36:11.000 I mean, yeah, we can, you know, walk and chew gum at the same time here.

00:36:14.000 We can hold these people accountable because if we don't, they're going to do it again.

00:36:19.000 Alex, I think you are absolutely spot on that the Democrat establishment in D.C. became so used to acting with impunity that they believed that they could run roughshod over the Constitution, over the rule of law, and they could do it and get away with it because they basically did.

00:36:35.000 Had the strength of this movement, the strength of alternative media, podcasts like the Charlie Kirk show and others, your show, Alex, Breitbart, we would not have survived this.

00:36:45.000 Thank God we had Donald Trump that was willing to carry that burden and to push through for whatever reason, but thank God for it.

00:36:52.000 But we have to have accountability and we have to govern at the same time.

00:36:56.000 Alex, final thoughts.

00:36:57.000 Yeah, for people in this audience, your move is to stay involved.

00:37:00.000 Stay.

00:37:01.000 I always think of Steve when we have these conversations, but stay in a wartime footing.

00:37:05.000 We have to be fired up to win every single time, every single election, and make sure the best people win our primaries.

00:37:12.000 But we also need to put heavy pressure on legislators, law enforcement to be able to investigate these people and serve justice.

00:37:19.000 Justice has not been done for Donald Trump and for his supporters who've been jailed and harassed and been deprived of what they earned with our allegedly Democratic elections.

00:37:28.000 Well said, Alex Marlow, author of Breaking the Law, Get It.

00:37:31.000 It comes out on Tuesday.

00:37:32.000 Thank you, Alex, so much.

00:37:34.000 Andrew, thank you.

00:37:35.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:37:37.000 I hope you enjoyed that show.

00:37:38.000 Talk to you soon.

The Charlie Kirk Show - August 01, 2025

Everything You Need to Know About the Durham Annex Bombsells

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