The Charlie Kirk Show - EXCLUSIVE Afghanistan Intelligence from a Former US Operative that the Corporate Media Doesn't Want You to Know

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk Show, a special bonus episode with my friend Dr. Keith Rose, who's a jack of all trades, and he served internationally in Afghanistan, and he is now involved in trying to protect Americans and get them out of what is happening right now in Kabul.

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00:01:06.000 Here is Dr. Keith Rose.

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00:01:41.000 Hey, everybody, welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:44.000 With us is my friend, Dr. Keith Rose.

00:01:45.000 Keith, welcome back.

00:01:46.000 Thanks, brother.

00:01:47.000 You are the jack of all trades, kind of a Swiss Army knife.

00:01:50.000 You served in Afghanistan.

00:01:52.000 I worked in Afghanistan.

00:01:55.000 I've been a part of the intelligence community.

00:01:57.000 So I worked there for a little bit over a decade.

00:02:01.000 So you've been there for over 10 years, in and out.

00:02:03.000 Yeah, about 12 years, in and out between there and Pakistan.

00:02:06.000 So you have a great understanding of that region and the complexities.

00:02:11.000 And I consider you to be an expert.

00:02:13.000 And in the intelligence community, you know even more than most.

00:02:18.000 So we did a lot of humanitarian work too.

00:02:20.000 Ironically enough, we helped a lot of people and we helped build a medical infrastructure, which is so critical.

00:02:26.000 I only say this just to establish our credibility before we get into all of this very important stuff.

00:02:31.000 So people don't say, oh, who is this guy?

00:02:33.000 But you really know what's going on on the ground.

00:02:36.000 Keith, on a scale of Saigon to Iran, how bad is it right now in Kabul?

00:02:42.000 Saigon to Iran, we're actually establishing a new low. 0.96

00:02:47.000 I wouldn't even put it on the scales with Saigon to Iran.

00:02:51.000 Each had their own problems, but what we have now is something that even who I consider some of the sharpest minds in the intelligence services and even in the military retired folks, no one saw this coming.

00:03:06.000 This is an unforced era of galactic proportions right now.

00:03:11.000 I mean, it could turn into one of the greatest humanitarian crisis in the history of not only our country, but the world.

00:03:18.000 So let's go through the timeline.

00:03:20.000 And so you were there for 12 years.

00:03:23.000 We pushed the Taliban out of Kabul very quickly, fought them in the Kandahar Valley, and Biden made the decision to withdraw.

00:03:31.000 And so talk about how that decision was made, not to withdraw, but it seems to be an ideological withdrawal.

00:03:40.000 One of the dumbest military strategies I've ever seen. 0.86

00:03:43.000 You couldn't call it a strategy. 0.99

00:03:45.000 I mean, unless it's a strategy for failure.

00:03:48.000 And really, the interesting thing, Charlie, from a 100,000-foot view, we were there 20 years, four presidents, Trillions of dollars to replace the Taliban with the Taliban.

00:04:06.000 I mean, if you think about that, why were we there that long?

00:04:10.000 It's important to understand: where does the Taliban get the fuel for their car?

00:04:15.000 We all know most of it comes from Pakistan.

00:04:17.000 A lot of it comes from the Pakistani intelligence services or the ISI.

00:04:22.000 Who can't trust those guys?

00:04:23.000 Well, you really can't trust those guys because they also support a gentleman who we have worked against our entire time by the name of Siraj Haqqani, who, from my reports from my guys, says is on his way to Kabul.

00:04:37.000 And we cannot.

00:04:38.000 Who is that, Keith?

00:04:39.000 Siraj Haqqani is a gentleman that has a $5 million bounty on his head.

00:04:44.000 He runs the Haqqani's network. 1.00

00:04:46.000 He likes to hold himself out as a Mujahideen, a great jihadi, but he's really the turban version of Tony Soprano. 0.99

00:04:55.000 He's about the money.

00:04:57.000 He's the guy that was responsible for the kidnapping of David Rhode.

00:05:01.000 David Rhodes, the New York Times reporter.

00:05:03.000 Yeah, the journalist.

00:05:04.000 He was responsible for the kidnapping of Bo Bergdahl.

00:05:04.000 The journalist.

00:05:07.000 In fact, the traitor.

00:05:09.000 In fact, a little inside baseball.

00:05:13.000 We knew where Bo Bergdahl was.

00:05:15.000 There was an active working group that had a plan to get Bo Bergdahl out that was solid.

00:05:20.000 And I want to just tell our listeners: Bo Bergdahl was, he abandoned his company and we traded five Gitmo prisoners for Bo Bergdahl.

00:05:27.000 This is a big controversy in the Obama era.

00:05:29.000 Just catch up with that.

00:05:30.000 Absolutely.

00:05:30.000 And one of those Gitmo prisoners we traded, I believe, is the number two person in the Taliban right now that rolled into.

00:05:37.000 And he said he was just a shopkeeper and wanted to look after his dad.

00:05:40.000 So, Keith, let's now, we're going to kind of jump all over the place, but I want to talk about what's happening now.

00:05:45.000 What is happening in Kabul?

00:05:47.000 Because we're being told by the Biden regime, and that's what they are: everything's fine, just get to the airport, no problem.

00:05:54.000 What is the truth based on your intelligence of what's happening in Kabul?

00:05:58.000 What's going on in Kabul right now?

00:06:00.000 And I apologize, I haven't slept much in the past four days.

00:06:03.000 That's okay.

00:06:04.000 There's a lot of really, just let me couch this: there's a lot of really good people.

00:06:07.000 I'm just a wheel in the cog, a cog in the wheel, that's how tired I am, of folks working.

00:06:12.000 But we're coordinating efforts because the problem in Kabul right now is that we cannot get our people, the people that helped us, the people that hold American passports that are being turned away because they're not on a quote list into the airport.

00:06:28.000 Now, the Brits and the Aussies have sent teams out and they're picking their folks up outside of the airport.

00:06:35.000 Outside the walls.

00:06:36.000 So, they've authorized their special forces to go find their citizens, and we haven't.

00:06:41.000 We haven't.

00:06:42.000 Our guys could do it.

00:06:43.000 We have the best of the best.

00:06:44.000 That's called an NEO, right?

00:06:45.000 Is that right?

00:06:46.000 Our rules of engagement.

00:06:48.000 But they're locking them down right now.

00:06:50.000 They're not allowing them to go do that because I believe that this administration and the leadership, this is what we're seeing as a galactic failure of leadership.

00:07:00.000 This is what happens, Charlie, when you elect people based on their wokeness.

00:07:06.000 You know, if you understand General Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, and General Austin, who's the Secretary of Defense, both of those were colonels that were passed over twice for promotion.

00:07:17.000 We call them double passsovers. 0.98

00:07:19.000 They were unpromotable.

00:07:22.000 There's a reason in the system when you're not promoted, it means there's no spot for you.

00:07:27.000 You don't have the leadership capabilities to go to the next level.

00:07:30.000 Yet, somehow, miraculously, their careers were revived under President Obama.

00:07:38.000 And I believe General Petraeus had something to do with it, bringing these guys forward.

00:07:42.000 And now they're at the highest points of leadership.

00:07:44.000 And I can tell you firsthand that they're locked in a room staring at a TV and they don't know what to do because they're not warfighters.

00:07:52.000 Yeah, and we did a whole podcast on this, which is Millie and Austin are CRT in action, right?

00:07:57.000 Which is the only type of white male they like is a self-hating, obedient white male and then a diversity pick, Lloyd Austin.

00:08:03.000 But that's a separate issue.

00:08:05.000 Let's go straight to the ground and cover it.

00:08:06.000 So the ground right now is our troops can't leave.

00:08:08.000 And here's an important note: we have, you hear it on the news, we're authorized for 6,000 troops.

00:08:14.000 Biden authorized 6,000 troops on the ground.

00:08:17.000 As of when I checked it last, and that was probably a few hours ago, there's only 2,500 plus troops on the ground because they are slow-dripping these troops in a battalion at a time.

00:08:27.000 Why are we not acting with urgency?

00:08:29.000 Well, because we're doing a measured response, Charlie, and it's the way it was described to me.

00:08:33.000 And this is urgency.

00:08:35.000 This is, we have a lot of problems here.

00:08:38.000 We have the Taliban. 0.96

00:08:39.000 And the Taliban, to understand them, is not just the Taliban.

00:08:43.000 We have the largest number of foreign fighters that we've seen in Afghanistan to date.

00:08:48.000 And this was reported.

00:08:50.000 And the reason I know this was reported to the Pentagon, and the reason I know this was reported in the intelligence services is because I delivered those reports.

00:08:57.000 And we said, and I'm sure other people did, we gave them video evidence.

00:09:01.000 We said we are seeing an uptick.

00:09:03.000 And this is a year, two years ago.

00:09:05.000 Remember, you and I. Foreign fighters in Afghanistan.

00:09:08.000 Remember, you and I had that conversation.

00:09:09.000 And I showed you the video, and I said, they're not even fighting.

00:09:11.000 Now, we were doing just our duty as patriots, reporting on what we call atmospherics.

00:09:18.000 I do a lot of relief work, and I wanted to make sure people that I worked with were safe.

00:09:22.000 So when I would get these reports, we would get eyewitness reports from people that have worked with us a long time saying, you have, you know, we have people that are not Afghans that are coming in.

00:09:34.000 And the interesting thing was they weren't fighting.

00:09:36.000 They were waiting.

00:09:37.000 They had excellent equipment and what we call kit.

00:09:40.000 And they were just biding their time and growing in number.

00:09:45.000 And if you look at this from a strategic standpoint, we now have more al-Qaeda, whether they're Uzbek, Chechen, wherever they come from on the spectrum in Afghanistan than we did when we got there in the first place.

00:09:58.000 It's much more dangerous.

00:10:00.000 Add on top of that, the fact that we abandon our weapons, our equipment, and bottom.

00:10:07.000 To the enemy.

00:10:08.000 And the interesting thing I saw CNN said: Taliban seized weapons in Bagram.

00:10:13.000 They didn't seize them.

00:10:14.000 It was an Easter egg contest.

00:10:16.000 I mean, they went in there and they were like, surprise, here we are.

00:10:20.000 And those weapons, there's a reason that this is important.

00:10:23.000 We have an eyewitness report as of two days ago that three flatbed trucks, each with two MRAPs.

00:10:30.000 What is that?

00:10:30.000 MRAPs are the large armored vehicles we transport our troops with, but they have armor systems and weapon systems, armor and weapon systems.

00:10:39.000 And the armor is top secret.

00:10:41.000 It's a new type of armor, and they're being taken to Pakistan.

00:10:45.000 Most likely, they'll end up in China or Russia, and it'll be reverse engineered.

00:10:49.000 So we now have, and you've seen the pictures on TV, you now have Taliban carrying American weapons.

00:10:56.000 We're seeing M4s, SAWs, ACOGs. 0.53

00:10:59.000 They have our optics, our night vision.

00:11:02.000 And they're walking around.

00:11:03.000 They're wearing our helmets and our kit.

00:11:06.000 And this is why this is important.

00:11:08.000 It's showing the world that not only are we withdrawing from Afghanistan, this is a humiliation of epic proportions. 0.95

00:11:17.000 And in a time right now, geopolitically, when our allies should be emboldened because they're our allies, they're having, I imagine, a lot of second thoughts, like places in Taiwan.

00:11:30.000 So if you want to know why we're doing this, I can't tell you, but the effects are going to be felt globally.

00:11:36.000 Yeah, the intentions, I can speculate, and that's what we do a lot of.

00:11:39.000 And we're usually right.

00:11:40.000 But I want to get down to the logistics of this because there's something I'm quite not understanding.

00:11:44.000 And so the airport is one of the only airstrips in all of Afghanistan, right?

00:11:49.000 This is a sixth century country.

00:11:50.000 And we basically built that airport.

00:11:52.000 Well, the most secure airstrip we had, Charlie, was Bagram Airfield.

00:11:56.000 Easy to defend and we abandoned it.

00:11:58.000 Yeah, and so some people are saying we should go retake that.

00:12:01.000 And so the Kabul airport, we have control of.

00:12:05.000 Is that correct?

00:12:06.000 Interior.

00:12:07.000 We have the interior of Kabul airport, but a C-17, a large transport, left today, and on its lift out right over the airport, it was shooting off flares.

00:12:16.000 So we have control of it, but who was shooting off flares?

00:12:19.000 The airplane.

00:12:21.000 Because whatever.

00:12:22.000 They're concerned maybe there's some anti-aircraft weapons, some air-to-surface missiles, surface air missiles.

00:12:28.000 Might be put a rocket-propelled grenade out there. 0.52

00:12:30.000 Yeah, and who well, no, or a heat-seeking.

00:12:33.000 That's what the flares are for for something like a stinger.

00:12:35.000 Oh, wow.

00:12:36.000 I would like to know: did we leave those in Bagram?

00:12:40.000 I will tell you, we did have a report of those type of weapons getting to the Taliban a year ago.

00:12:45.000 So we control the interior of this airport, but on the exterior, in the streets of Kabul and the other villages, how many Americans are there teeth?

00:12:53.000 Because our own government doesn't even know this.

00:12:55.000 We are collecting information.

00:12:58.000 We have people working around the clock collecting information from friends, guys that work there like I did, humanitarian workers, everyone that worked there.

00:13:07.000 And we're collecting this massive amount of information.

00:13:09.000 The best guest I can have with American passports is over 10,000.

00:13:14.000 And these are Americans.

00:13:15.000 Look at it.

00:13:16.000 You know how some people go to Mexico to visit their family.

00:13:18.000 They're American citizens.

00:13:19.000 They're third generation Mexicans, but Americans, third generation Americans that are Mexican, and they go to Mexico to visit their parents.

00:13:26.000 A lot of people knew that Kabul would eventually fall.

00:13:29.000 So they went to see their families.

00:13:31.000 What they didn't understand was that the president of Afghanistan would leave in the middle of the night.

00:13:38.000 $169 million.

00:13:39.000 Right.

00:13:39.000 And $169 million in cash, as the report would have to be.

00:13:45.000 That's like two Gulf Streams full of cash.

00:13:47.000 No, but it is like a C-130.

00:13:50.000 So my question is: who flew?

00:13:51.000 Did we fly him out?

00:13:52.000 I don't know that.

00:13:53.000 But I think it's a question that should be asked because we're watching, Charlie, just so you ask about Saigon.

00:14:01.000 When Saigon fell.

00:14:02.000 When we're pushing helicopters into the ocean.

00:14:04.000 Joe Biden has an interesting history in all this because Joe Biden was the senator that blocked the aid that President Ford requested after Saigon fell to help the refugees.

00:14:16.000 And he said, and this is easily researchable: F those guys.

00:14:22.000 We don't owe them anything.

00:14:23.000 He blocked the aid. 1.00

00:14:25.000 He's one of the nastiest, meanest, bio people that is a racist. 1.00

00:14:31.000 He has shown a history. 0.99

00:14:33.000 He worked with Senator Bird.

00:14:36.000 He has been shown former KKK Grand Wizard.

00:14:40.000 He has a racist history.

00:14:42.000 And this is not political.

00:14:43.000 This is just describing Joe.

00:14:44.000 So you're right before.

00:14:46.000 He is very vengeful, and people don't realize that about his personality.

00:14:49.000 So there's 10,000 Americans.

00:14:51.000 Where are they in Kabul?

00:14:52.000 Are they in restaurants and diners?

00:14:54.000 I mean, explain to us what's actually happening on the streets of Kabul because this is hard for Americans, including myself, to kind of do is the Taliban control every neighborhood?

00:15:02.000 Do they control every street yet?

00:15:04.000 Or is it just kind of this unspoken, like they are in charge now?

00:15:08.000 The Taliban are in charge. 1.00

00:15:10.000 They're not everywhere.

00:15:11.000 They're not ubiquitous.

00:15:13.000 They're not ubiquitous, but they're there.

00:15:15.000 And here's what people don't understand.

00:15:17.000 The larger city centers, they're doing a charm offensive.

00:15:21.000 But the smaller areas, to give you an example, someone that helped us in a smaller province, I received the video the other night from a relative, and it was him being executed by the Taliban.

00:15:32.000 American?

00:15:32.000 No, he was Afghan, but he had worked against the Taliban.

00:15:36.000 The other thing is we're hearing the Taliban have the biometric data of a lot of people.

00:15:42.000 And the interesting thing is we had something called Bats and Eyes where we would go out and collect biometric data, our military would.

00:15:49.000 Retinal scans, fingerprints.

00:15:52.000 And somehow the Taliban has gotten a hold of that data.

00:15:56.000 And you ask where the people are.

00:15:57.000 Some of them are hiding in houses, some of them with family members.

00:16:01.000 I know of one lady who is an American citizen. 0.98

00:16:04.000 Her child does not even speak anything but English.

00:16:08.000 She was turned away with her passport from the gate three times because she wasn't on the list.

00:16:13.000 Well, and to give people some credit, it's very hard because everyone is at the gates right now.

00:16:21.000 And so there's no processing center.

00:16:24.000 That sounds like a mess.

00:16:25.000 It's beyond, but there's a way to fix this.

00:16:28.000 There's a way to create a processing center. 0.95

00:16:30.000 There's a way to set up an orderly processing.

00:16:34.000 And I don't, for security reasons, I don't want to go into why we're doing this.

00:16:38.000 But we're shooting for this goal.

00:16:40.000 It's not getting planes into Kabul and it's not getting people on the list.

00:16:44.000 It's getting them from the street into the airport.

00:16:47.000 And right now we have Taliban that are beating people.

00:16:51.000 They're not committing the atrocities too much in public.

00:16:55.000 They are committing some.

00:16:56.000 They've killed the four ladies that were trained in the Air Force, the Afghan women.

00:17:00.000 One was stoned, and the rest other three were killed on the roof of the palace.

00:17:06.000 But there is a confirmed, there are many confirmed reports that the Taliban are going to wait till we leave.

00:17:12.000 And when we leave, they're going to systematically go through.

00:17:16.000 There's a little bit of kind of a self-control order, like keep yourself in line a little bit.

00:17:20.000 You know, don't overly agitate the Americans.

00:17:22.000 But what's to say that they're not going to start to kidnap a couple Americans?

00:17:26.000 I pray because they still have the ability to make money right now without kidnapping them.

00:17:35.000 And I don't want to go into details, but we want to get our people out safe.

00:17:38.000 That's the most important thing, is getting people out safely.

00:17:42.000 The Taliban could change at any moment.

00:17:44.000 I believe that some of their leaders are trying to show that they could govern differently.

00:17:49.000 To the international and to the international community.

00:17:51.000 And I think that's great.

00:17:52.000 My prayer is that the Taliban will back up and allow people to leave.

00:17:57.000 But here's what concerns me: Joe Biden has set August 31st for a tentative, like we're going to be out by August 31st.

00:18:07.000 September 11th has meaning in the Middle East.

00:18:12.000 And what we're seeing, I believe, is what happened thousands of years ago when Jerusalem was attacked by Saladin.

00:18:20.000 When Jerusalem was attacked by Saladin, there were 12 days of some of the most intense fighting.

00:18:26.000 And on the 12th day, they took Jerusalem. 0.95

00:18:29.000 It's 12 days from the 31st to September 11th.

00:18:32.000 Now, the Middle Easterners, the Southeast Asians, the Afghans, they have 4,000 plus years of history, and it means something to them.

00:18:42.000 Joe Biden can't remember what he did yesterday.

00:18:45.000 And if we don't pay attention to history and understand that this is significant and they could use this, this is the, and this is what bugs a lot of us have spent time there.

00:18:56.000 This is the fulfillment of what Osama bin Laden started. 0.95

00:19:01.000 He wrote about it and we handed it to him.

00:19:04.000 And it didn't have to happen this way.

00:19:07.000 So in the current moment, this could go wrong at any time.

00:19:11.000 It could just.

00:19:12.000 The other thing, to answer your question on the ground, we're concerned about.

00:19:16.000 In 2006, there was an accident with one of the MRAPs.

00:19:20.000 They hit some local fruit vendors and some people were injured.

00:19:25.000 Well, anytime that happens in Afghanistan, you could get 1,000, 2,000 people crowding around, see what's going on.

00:19:30.000 A soldier panicked and shot into the crowd with his 50.

00:19:33.000 Some people were killed and there was a mass riot.

00:19:36.000 And it almost leveled that side of the city.

00:19:38.000 Our concern is a mass riot to get into the airport.

00:19:41.000 If you have 100,000 people trying to kick down the walls.

00:19:44.000 That could happen.

00:19:45.000 That could.

00:19:46.000 And so what we're trying to do is figure out from our leaders, and we can't get in touch with them now.

00:19:53.000 We understand that they are paralyzed.

00:19:57.000 Who is running, I mean, from what I understand, the way that the military apparatus is built, that they have different continental commands, right?

00:20:04.000 So someone's in charge of Africa or Europe.

00:20:07.000 Who's in charge on the ground?

00:20:08.000 Mark Miller.

00:20:09.000 I don't want to go into names, but there's a general that's in charge on the ground there that's doing a great job.

00:20:14.000 He really is.

00:20:15.000 There are a couple.

00:20:16.000 He's actually there in Kabul.

00:20:17.000 He's in Kabul.

00:20:18.000 And he just must be losing his mind about that.

00:20:20.000 But he can only do so much with the support that he's given.

00:20:23.000 There's folks at the UN that are there now.

00:20:25.000 They're not the official UN guys that are always there.

00:20:28.000 But the guys that are running it now, good guys, because they're not the typical UN guys.

00:20:33.000 The people that are there understand the mission.

00:20:36.000 The American people understand the mission.

00:20:39.000 The only people that are holding back this from being a successful endeavor are behind closed doors looking at a TV screen and they're paralyzed with fear.

00:20:49.000 And that would be the Biden administration and the Joint Chiefs.

00:20:52.000 But all of a sudden, 100 American soldiers are going to die or something.

00:20:55.000 But there's a legitimate fear.

00:20:57.000 You've seen it with the coronavirus.

00:20:59.000 You've seen it with our military.

00:21:02.000 The southern border wide open.

00:21:04.000 When you promote people based on ideology and not competence, when a true disaster hits, it lays them bare for all the world to see.

00:21:16.000 So successful in the terms of a disaster, right?

00:21:20.000 I mean, I guess what we're talking about is the success right now is no Americans die.

00:21:25.000 But Kabul has fallen.

00:21:27.000 Afghanistan has fallen. 0.92

00:21:28.000 Kabul was handed away.

00:21:30.000 Afghanistan, interesting enough, there is a resistance in the Panjir.

00:21:33.000 Yeah, talk about that.

00:21:34.000 And where is the Panchir?

00:21:35.000 The Panchir is the northern plains of southeast.

00:21:39.000 Well, Kabul is kind of in the center.

00:21:41.000 It's kind of in the center.

00:21:42.000 It's right near the Pakistan border.

00:21:43.000 Well, it's two hours from Jalabad, and Jalabad's near the Torkham border, which is near Pakistan.

00:21:48.000 Kabul is not in the middle of the spoke, but it's kind of there.

00:21:52.000 If you go north and east, you're going up into the Panjir, which was where Massoud, the lion of the Panjir, that was executed before 9-11.

00:22:01.000 He was the charismatic great leader in Afghanistan.

00:22:04.000 His son is now the number one military commander for a gentleman by the name of Amarullah Saleh.

00:22:12.000 He was a former head of the NDS, which is the Afghan intelligence, who is now the de facto president of Afghanistan.

00:22:19.000 He is a serious man.

00:22:21.000 He is a man that is wise.

00:22:24.000 He's got great tactics.

00:22:26.000 He is a strategist, and he has a lot of strategy.

00:22:29.000 And he is working with a very charismatic young Massoud.

00:22:34.000 So they are making a stand there.

00:22:36.000 And I pray that we somehow figure out a way to support these guys because at the end of the day, we've had this conversation.

00:22:44.000 The Afghans can take care of things.

00:22:46.000 We pushed the wrong thing.

00:22:49.000 We built up an army with people that we just looked at numbers and money.

00:22:53.000 We didn't look at who we were bringing into the army, who we were training.

00:22:57.000 We didn't work with the militias that were already established in the good fighters.

00:23:02.000 We brought in a lot of guys from wherever we could put a warm body, and there was no organized building.

00:23:10.000 How is it possible the Taliban took back Kabul so quickly?

00:23:13.000 I mean, that's hard for me to believe.

00:23:15.000 150,000, 300,000 Afghan fighters, you know, they allegedly had an Air Force.

00:23:20.000 How is that possible?

00:23:22.000 Well, they had an Air Force, but the Biden administration didn't let the contractors that work on the planes back in the country.

00:23:28.000 So they have an Air Force, but they don't have maintenance.

00:23:30.000 You can't fly a plane without maintenance.

00:23:33.000 They didn't fire a shot to take Kabul.

00:23:35.000 How is that possible?

00:23:36.000 Well, when the president left with money, with lots of cash, and says, I'm giving it to the Taliban, that caught, I was, I know where I was when that happened. 0.87

00:23:47.000 I had friends calling me going, what just happened?

00:23:51.000 I think in the final analysis, we're going to learn these.

00:23:54.000 But the Taliban could have been held at bay.

00:23:57.000 We were doing that with just 2,500 troops.

00:23:59.000 We were holding them at bay.

00:24:01.000 But we stopped flying what we call tactical air.

00:24:03.000 We stopped giving air support.

00:24:05.000 We stopped paying attention to the actual intelligence reports that were being passed.

00:24:10.000 I'm not alone in this.

00:24:11.000 It's come out now.

00:24:12.000 The State Department knew.

00:24:14.000 The intelligence community said they warned.

00:24:17.000 But at the end of the day, President Biden was right.

00:24:19.000 The buck stopped with him.

00:24:21.000 We were always going to leave Afghanistan. 0.73

00:24:24.000 But the way we are leaving, I mean, look at the number of Americans we lost at Pearl Harbor.

00:24:30.000 2,000 plus.

00:24:31.000 Look at the number of Americans we lost at 911.

00:24:33.000 Yeah, 3,000.

00:24:34.000 We went over to Afghanistan because of 9-1-1.

00:24:38.000 And we stand to lose up to five times as many people and up to four times as many American citizens by our own malfeasance in the way we're pulling this exit.

00:24:49.000 We haven't put enough troops in.

00:24:50.000 We're not allowing our troops to go out into the city and get our people.

00:24:54.000 All because of a leadership, not our rank and file, not the mid-level guys, but a leadership that feels like it's more important that you understand white rage, that you understand critical race theory.

00:25:08.000 I can promise you, the soldiers on the ground don't care what color you are.

00:25:12.000 They care about the guy on their left and the guy on their right.

00:25:15.000 They care about their brothers.

00:25:16.000 We call each other brother.

00:25:18.000 No one cares what color you are.

00:25:19.000 And so when you're real simple, Charlie.

00:25:25.000 When we came on a Ford operating base one time, we were in Afghanistan.

00:25:28.000 We'd been out in the Styx.

00:25:30.000 And we were stopped by a young officer and he said, you guys need a wheel walker.

00:25:34.000 And I looked at my buddy and he goes, rolled his eyes.

00:25:37.000 And a wheel walker means you need someone walking next to your vehicle so you don't go faster than the person walking so there's no accident because it's a safety issue.

00:25:45.000 We're in a war zone on an operating base, Ford operating base, but we need a wheel walker.

00:25:49.000 When the officer walked off, I looked at my buddy and I go, bro, what's up?

00:25:53.000 And he goes, simple, bud.

00:25:55.000 He goes, when you have nothing important to do, the unimportant becomes important.

00:26:00.000 And what you've seen right now is you have an administration and a military leadership that had a lot of important to do, but they made the unimportant critical race theory wokeness important.

00:26:14.000 And the important stuff has risen up because history has a way of just, you know, sticking its head up, and we're not ready for it.

00:26:22.000 So now I want to get into the implications of this.

00:26:25.000 Internally in the White House space and any sources that you, how are they processing, do they processing this?

00:26:30.000 Do they realize?

00:26:32.000 I'm sure they do realize.

00:26:33.000 Give us some insight into what the atmosphere is there.

00:26:37.000 I mean, I believe this has thwarted their entire political agenda.

00:26:41.000 This is not going away.

00:26:42.000 This is, look, we stopped being Democrats and Republicans when this happened.

00:26:45.000 We're Americans.

00:26:47.000 We have, our country is in extremists.

00:26:49.000 Our allies don't trust us and our enemies don't fear us.

00:26:52.000 And no society survives like that.

00:26:55.000 And currently, right now, I believe, and from what I understand, the Biden administration, it's not that they not only don't know what to do, they don't know where to look to find what to do.

00:27:07.000 How is that possible in a multi-trillion dollar government and a multi-trillion dollar military apparatus?

00:27:12.000 No one knows how to win a war?

00:27:15.000 When you have nothing important to do, the unimportant has been important.

00:27:18.000 You got rid of the people that know how to fight a war.

00:27:22.000 Charlie, in World War II, so many, a lot of generals were fired because they weren't.

00:27:27.000 There was a guy named General Lawton who was in the Japanese theater, was in the Asian theater.

00:27:32.000 He was very successful, 38 years old.

00:27:35.000 Eisenhower, General Eisenhower, recognized what a stud this guy was and brought him over to the European theater.

00:27:39.000 Eisenhower fired his West Point roommate and put this guy in charge.

00:27:46.000 And when he was asked why, he said, because he fights and he wins.

00:27:52.000 We don't do that anymore.

00:27:53.000 We haven't won a war since World War II.

00:27:56.000 We don't fire people for lack of winning.

00:28:01.000 We don't look upwards.

00:28:03.000 You fail upwards.

00:28:05.000 And eventually, you know, when the music stops, we're standing.

00:28:09.000 There's not a chair.

00:28:10.000 Yeah, and so the one thing about war is that it does deal an objective truth, where wokeism doesn't.

00:28:15.000 It's either you're alive or you're dead.

00:28:18.000 You control the city or you don't.

00:28:21.000 And the entire idea of wokeism, which has now infiltrated the military, is that, well, two plus two can equal five.

00:28:26.000 Well, that's fine.

00:28:27.000 You can believe something that's not true.

00:28:28.000 Do you control Kabul?

00:28:29.000 Right.

00:28:31.000 That's an objective measurement, right?

00:28:32.000 Who's in control?

00:28:33.000 Right.

00:28:33.000 And you, but here's why they can't understand who's in control.

00:28:36.000 This is the administration that says men can have babies.

00:28:39.000 That's right.

00:28:40.000 So you think all of these things are tied together.

00:28:42.000 Obviously, I do.

00:28:43.000 I know they're tied together because, again, history is the ultimate arbiter of truth.

00:28:49.000 That's why the winners like to rewrite history sometimes.

00:28:53.000 But the whole way we go forward is history is our story.

00:28:59.000 It's truth.

00:29:01.000 And we have to understand it.

00:29:02.000 And as tragic as this is, we could still pull this out.

00:29:07.000 More importantly, I believe this administration has been shown for the failures that they are.

00:29:14.000 I don't believe Joe Biden remembers what he did 10 minutes ago.

00:29:16.000 Yeah, but there's people around him that are.

00:29:18.000 They do.

00:29:19.000 And they don't know what to do.

00:29:21.000 And so talk about the ramifications for their political agenda internally.

00:29:25.000 Are they scrambling?

00:29:26.000 I mean, this can't be good for any of their ambitions.

00:29:30.000 I'm sure you've seen Biden's poll numbers have taken double-digit turns negative in almost every state.

00:29:37.000 I mean, he is sub-negative in state.

00:29:39.000 He's like tied for favorability in Oregon, Keith.

00:29:42.000 He's down 30-point favorability in Ohio.

00:29:46.000 I mean, this is serious stuff.

00:29:48.000 Not that I want to politicize this, but politics is how you control the White House, right? 0.50

00:29:53.000 Their own internal polling right now shows that one in 10 Democrats, I mean, hardcore progressive leftists have turned away from them and no longer support them.

00:30:04.000 They just lost 10% of their base, not the independents.

00:30:08.000 And they can't explain this away.

00:30:10.000 It just seems that even CNN can't explain it. 1.00

00:30:13.000 There's something kind of in the intuition of a normal American that's like, okay, Trump was a jerk, but he would figure this out. 0.99

00:30:20.000 He would have helicopters, bombs, supersonic missile, whatever it took. 0.99

00:30:23.000 There's something that I think even the normal American can resonate with, right?

00:30:29.000 What I'm seeing, I believe, a great thing to do, and I would support it, believe it or not, because I love the guys on the ground and I have deep relationships with some of those people in Afghanistan that supported us.

00:30:42.000 Is that if the person I believe is running the country, which is Ron Klain, I would encourage him to reach out and call President Trump's chief of staff.

00:30:52.000 There's actually precedent for that.

00:30:54.000 Back in the Bay of Pigs, I believe Eisenhower came in to President Kennedy, brought Eisenhower in to help him as a consultant, because this is not a time to talk about tweets.

00:31:08.000 This is not a time to talk about being woke.

00:31:11.000 This is a time to bring our country back to a prominent position because when you saw those folks, that picture of all those people from Afghanistan holding onto that plane, they just wanted to get out. 1.00

00:31:25.000 If we don't come together as a nation, there's not going to be a plane that we can hold on to to get out.

00:31:31.000 Where are we going to go?

00:31:32.000 I'm afraid this regime is not willing to do that.

00:31:35.000 And they will suffer a political price because of that.

00:31:38.000 Well, it may be.

00:31:40.000 This may not just be a losing situation.

00:31:43.000 This could be an extinction event for the Democrat Party.

00:31:47.000 I don't think they understand.

00:31:48.000 They're their ice age.

00:31:50.000 Yes.

00:31:50.000 And so let's get into how prolonged this is going to be, right?

00:31:56.000 Even in the best case scenario, this doesn't get solved for a week, two weeks, three weeks.

00:32:00.000 Best case scenario.

00:32:01.000 Best case scenario is they talk to people that know what they're doing on the ground.

00:32:08.000 They open up gates with control.

00:32:11.000 They allow force to be projected to bring in people.

00:32:15.000 And they process and they get out the critical people that are under true threat.

00:32:19.000 Those that helped us, that not just the ones that are going to get beat up, but the ones that are going to be killed.

00:32:24.000 When they do that, they need to really.

00:32:27.000 An interesting thing, Charlie, is they could fix a lot of this almost immediately if they put pressure on Pakistan, believe it or not. 0.97

00:32:36.000 If we had a State Department that understood the geopolitical, the geopolitical situation right now in that part of the world, and we just, can you imagine a State Department that called the ambassador Pakistan and said, look, we're not playing anymore.

00:32:51.000 You guys either back off or we're going to make sure that that was the last anniversary you ever celebrate as a country because India is going to absorb you because we're going to support them with everything we have in Kashmir and everywhere.

00:33:05.000 Just India is going to take it over because we can. 1.00

00:33:10.000 We're funding them and we don't have to do that.

00:33:14.000 But we have to have the courage of our convictions.

00:33:16.000 That's real diplomacy.

00:33:18.000 And no one should ever hear about it, but they should do it and they should get concessions.

00:33:22.000 They should say, you're no longer going to support these guys right now.

00:33:25.000 And we're getting our guys out.

00:33:27.000 Because the Taliban have benefactors. 0.71

00:33:30.000 That's how they make their money.

00:33:31.000 Are the Chinese behind the Taliban? 0.99

00:33:33.000 I think the Chinese have provided support.

00:33:35.000 I think Pakistan is the primary. 0.97

00:33:37.000 I think there is Iran and China have always played a role.

00:33:41.000 And here's the strategic significance of Afghanistan that people don't talk about.

00:33:45.000 They have a lot of rare earth minerals.

00:33:47.000 And it is landlocked, right?

00:33:48.000 It's landlocked with rare earth minerals.

00:33:50.000 But it also shares a border with China, Pakistan, and Iran.

00:33:55.000 And if we had a small contingency of people there, maybe we could have an eye on China, Pakistan, and Iran instead of just backing out.

00:34:05.000 I'm not talking about leaving troops, but we have troops in South Korea.

00:34:09.000 We have troops in Europe.

00:34:11.000 It's not unprecedented.

00:34:12.000 But what is unprecedented is the way we're treating this and just how flippant we are with, you know, we're trying to tear a band-aid off a wound that if we do it the wrong way, the patient bleeds to death because they just ripped it off not realizing it was on a major vessel.

00:34:29.000 And the genie could be put back, but it's going to have to.

00:34:32.000 So the best case scenario is this gets wrapped up in a couple weeks, but we're not on pace for a best scenario.

00:34:37.000 Well, not even wrapped up.

00:34:38.000 We have to still establish other routes for people to get out.

00:34:42.000 We have to still establish.

00:34:44.000 You're talking about a couple months deal here in the best case scenario.

00:34:49.000 Best case scenario, you're three weeks critical and two months.

00:34:53.000 And they're not on pace for a best case scenario right now.

00:34:56.000 They're not on pace for a scenario right now.

00:34:59.000 It's not a couple month crisis.

00:35:01.000 Well, it could be, but a three-week big crisis because, again, you're running into the historical significance of 9-11.

00:35:09.000 It was, I really believe in don't contribute to conspiracy what can easily be explained by incompetence because I'm looking at who's in the White House.

00:35:22.000 But more importantly, back here, Charlie, I pray we fix this.

00:35:25.000 And I also pray that people see elections have more than consequences because right now the British parliament came out against our military.

00:35:33.000 What do you mean?

00:35:34.000 I mean, against Joe Biden, not your Biden, the way our military is not being allowed to perform.

00:35:38.000 Yes.

00:35:38.000 I mean, that's unheard of when the Brits get together.

00:35:41.000 And I'll be honest, though, Keith, you know, what's so stunning to me.

00:35:45.000 So, best case scenario, three weeks, we solve it.

00:35:47.000 Worst case, this drags on for months in the killing season of September and October, early November.

00:35:52.000 I'm really stunned we haven't seen dramatic compensating action from Biden.

00:35:57.000 In a normal regime, they'd say, you know what?

00:35:59.000 Oh, my goodness, we screwed up.

00:36:01.000 We're bringing in 10,000 troops.

00:36:02.000 I'm flying to Doha tomorrow.

00:36:03.000 We're setting up a command center.

00:36:05.000 Here's who's in control.

00:36:06.000 It seems almost intentional flat-footedness.

00:36:08.000 Am I seeing that wrong?

00:36:09.000 No, I spoke to some friends of mine that have their ears in the special operations community.

00:36:15.000 And what someone told me today, and I don't know this personally, but this guy is in the know, and I've worked with him before.

00:36:21.000 He said, none of the special operations teams that we would have on the step to get moving have even been told to get to pre-deployment.

00:36:30.000 So, again, from multiple sources, I understand we have a paralyzed leadership in the Joint Chiefs.

00:36:38.000 And they're just hoping it gets better.

00:36:39.000 They're strong.

00:36:40.000 Yeah, utopian's not a strategy.

00:36:41.000 And did you see what Biden did in a Stephanopoulos interview?

00:36:45.000 I did.

00:36:45.000 He said, man, no Americans have been killed yet.

00:36:49.000 And he knocked on wood.

00:36:51.000 Our president knocked on wood.

00:36:53.000 It's the same Joe Biden that didn't care what happened after Saigon. 0.53

00:36:56.000 It's the same Joe Biden that was a racist his entire career.

00:37:01.000 He is, and it's the same Joe Biden that's really not there now.

00:37:04.000 The problem is the Democrats, we always say, don't have a deep bench.

00:37:10.000 They're looking to the bullpen and there's nothing there.

00:37:13.000 And then they also have the problem with the southern border.

00:37:15.000 Charlie, you can't put that many American weapons into the hands of terrorists and have an open border.

00:37:22.000 There's no math in any type of wokeness that we're one plus one equals two on that one because those weapons could get in the wrong hands.

00:37:31.000 We have a porous border.

00:37:32.000 Then we have to bring in refugees. 1.00

00:37:34.000 Then we have to do the adequate work.

00:37:36.000 We're already doing that.

00:37:37.000 And I came out strong against the refugees because, first of all, we don't know who a lot of these people are. 1.00

00:37:41.000 And second of all, you don't have to take them into your country. 0.95

00:37:44.000 You can accommodate them in other parts of the world.

00:37:46.000 You can bring them to German air bases for all I care. 1.00

00:37:49.000 This idea that they have to go to Arizona and Iowa and swing states across the country is insane.

00:37:53.000 Go ahead.

00:37:53.000 Yeah.

00:37:54.000 And a lot of the guys I talked to that need to leave for safety said, look, I don't want to stay gone.

00:37:59.000 I want to go back to my country.

00:38:00.000 Well, that's the whole point, is that all of a sudden now we have, and this is where I, you know, the media lost their mind on what I said, which is we do not have an obligation to resettle them in America.

00:38:09.000 We might have an obligation to help them.

00:38:11.000 You could bring them to any of the multitude of air bases we have across the planet, which is plenty in the great American empire, from Germany to Japan to South Korea.

00:38:21.000 But this idea we now have to give citizenship to someone who might not really share our values.

00:38:26.000 They might have helped us, but they might not share our American values.

00:38:29.000 But I'll tell you, a lot of them, though, believe it or not, Afghans, there are a lot of really good folks.

00:38:34.000 We got our interpreter here a while back.

00:38:37.000 I was told that about Somalians, though, too, Keith.

00:38:39.000 Oh, right.

00:38:39.000 Yeah.

00:38:39.000 Oh, no.

00:38:40.000 That's the same narrative as how we got Elon Omar, right?

00:38:43.000 Oh, yeah.

00:38:43.000 And that's, and she's so appreciative.

00:38:46.000 No, that's right.

00:38:46.000 And her family is just indebted to us forever.

00:38:49.000 We agree.

00:38:50.000 I came out strong against this because you can go into the congressional record in the 90s.

00:38:54.000 You've all the Somalians are wonderful people.

00:38:56.000 And Mogadishu is our fault because of our helicopter, whatever.

00:38:59.000 We need to go bring in all these Somalians from Kenya. 1.00

00:39:02.000 And next thing you know, Minneapolis is gone, right?

00:39:04.000 It's an unrecognizable.

00:39:06.000 That's a different conversation for you.

00:39:07.000 But John, it lays bare so much of the left's narrative when you have a tragedy like this.

00:39:15.000 Look at COVID.

00:39:17.000 You saw people, you see them jammed together every day.

00:39:19.000 Now, I talked to people in all the hospitals in Kabul.

00:39:22.000 I have a lot of friends that are doctors.

00:39:25.000 I said, are you guys overrun with COVID?

00:39:27.000 They're like, no.

00:39:29.000 We know how to use hydroxychloroquine and we had immunity.

00:39:31.000 And yeah, it's not a thing.

00:39:33.000 And I go, seriously?

00:39:34.000 And one of them starts laughing and goes, look, we can't afford COVID.

00:39:37.000 And he wasn't saying that people aren't dying.

00:39:39.000 I mean, have you seen any masks?

00:39:41.000 I mean, I have seen cloths over masks.

00:39:44.000 Cloths over masks.

00:39:45.000 And your tweet was terrific on that, but go ahead.

00:39:47.000 You see the C-47 or the C-17s taking off with all those Afghans stuffed in? 1.00

00:39:53.000 No vaccines, no masks.

00:39:55.000 But you can't get on a plane, or they're saying they don't want you on a plane without a vaccine, a mask.

00:39:59.000 No one was worried about those guys.

00:40:01.000 No one was checking temperatures.

00:40:03.000 And it lays bare this narrative that why are we becoming such a tyrannical regime where we live?

00:40:12.000 And when you see what's going on there.

00:40:15.000 And so here's something I want to explore with you, Keith, in the minutes we have made.

00:40:17.000 I don't know what time it is.

00:40:18.000 Yeah, we got 10 or 10 minutes.

00:40:20.000 Is that this is the tyranny of the weak, is that we are being ruled in an authoritarian nature by rather weak people.

00:40:27.000 It'd be one thing if Biden was like the strong man who was willing to use political power.

00:40:33.000 He's willing to use political power against his domestic enemies, but he's not willing to use political power against the Taliban.

00:40:39.000 It's almost like, I'm not willing to actually go get these Americans. 1.00

00:40:43.000 Is that the word here, Keith, that is missing?

00:40:46.000 Is willingness.

00:40:47.000 Because we have the capacity, we have the ability, we have the troops, we have the funding.

00:40:50.000 Is it a willingness issue?

00:40:51.000 It's a morality issue, Charlie.

00:40:53.000 And that goes to willing.

00:40:56.000 I know a lot of guys that are up day and night right now that don't have to be.

00:41:00.000 They don't have to be involved in any of this.

00:41:02.000 And they're doing it because we feel it's a moral included.

00:41:04.000 It's a moral issue.

00:41:06.000 The founders spoke about this.

00:41:08.000 They wrote letter after letter on this about morality.

00:41:12.000 We cannot lose morality.

00:41:14.000 And the morality is why we self-govern.

00:41:17.000 And the problem is the Democrat Party doesn't self-govern their own lives.

00:41:23.000 They don't have the morality in the way they legislate.

00:41:28.000 So I don't think we can expect them to have the morality or the courage of their conviction to go and do the right thing when they specialize in condemning people, creating victims, so they have the right to rebel.

00:41:42.000 Yeah, and it, I mean, I totally agree.

00:41:44.000 I think this is a very important teaching moment.

00:41:48.000 I just gave this speech three times.

00:41:49.000 We're about to give it again, which is that critical race theory in classrooms is all fun and games until you have a crisis in Kabul. 0.68

00:41:56.000 And then we value diversity, as you said, over competency.

00:42:00.000 It's straight out of our podcast because we're thinking we process data the same way.

00:42:04.000 And so this is, obviously, this is a crisis.

00:42:06.000 And according to you, this is not going away anytime soon.

00:42:09.000 And the best case scenario is our government starts to actually promote competency in the short term to fix this.

00:42:14.000 I'm not so confident.

00:42:15.000 I think this is going to be a multi-month humanitarian crisis.

00:42:19.000 Charlie, there's things we need to do kinetically immediately to move and do.

00:42:22.000 What do you mean by that?

00:42:23.000 Kinetically, I mean set up these zones to get people military.

00:42:27.000 But there's also a political and a state strategy to this.

00:42:31.000 And that's where the lack of conviction comes in or the lack of moral clarity.

00:42:36.000 We could back down Pakistan in a heartbeat. 1.00

00:42:40.000 We're the United States of America.

00:42:41.000 We give them money.

00:42:42.000 And there's some great people in Pakistan.

00:42:45.000 I'm talking about the ISR.

00:42:46.000 Their government is so sneaky.

00:42:48.000 But so you use a big stick and you say, look, we're not going to give you money and we're going to support the people that don't.

00:42:48.000 Right.

00:42:56.000 And you do it with conviction.

00:42:57.000 And look, they'll take you seriously because they know your backs are against the wall.

00:43:01.000 That's the thing that it shocks me is their backs are against the wall, meaning the leadership, and they're frozen.

00:43:10.000 When I started working, Charlie, over 20 years ago, my boss told me one thing.

00:43:14.000 He said, never do anything you know that is morally wrong that you can't live with.

00:43:19.000 And he said something that I'll never forget that I'm sure a lot of other guys have heard.

00:43:23.000 He said, never do anything, not if, but when it becomes known to the American public will shock the conscience of the nation.

00:43:32.000 And what we are seeing right now in my lifetime is something that has shocked the conscience, Democrat and Republicans, of our nation.

00:43:39.000 And it didn't have to be this way, right, Keith?

00:43:41.000 We could have had a prudent withdrawal that would have had a concentric circle type strategy of removal of citizens, destruction of weapons, and then eventually leaving.

00:43:49.000 It didn't have to be this way.

00:43:51.000 No, this is not a forced error.

00:43:53.000 This is an absolute man-made, using their own words, we're a man-made disaster.

00:44:00.000 I mean, it's not climate.

00:44:01.000 The only climate change that they contributed to was incompetence.

00:44:05.000 And when you have incompetence.

00:44:07.000 Or malevolence.

00:44:08.000 Incompetence and malevolence, their bastard stepchild is tragedy. 1.00

00:44:14.000 Yeah, and that's what we're doing. 1.00

00:44:15.000 And that's what we're seeing.

00:44:17.000 And there will be a moment in time, and it's coming, where even the most Democrat person doesn't want to see Americans slaughtered by the Taliban. 0.92

00:44:26.000 And I believe that, you know, I've seen folks that are hardcore Democrats that have come out and said, this is wrong.

00:44:31.000 Well, the House Democrats on their call with Kelosi, it was leaked, they are screaming at her.

00:44:36.000 Like, you do not know what this is doing in our district.

00:44:38.000 I mean, you're trying to tell me that some of these Democrats and swing districts in Orange County, which is, you know, should be a center-right area, it doesn't matter how Democrat they become.

00:44:46.000 They don't want to see that.

00:44:47.000 No.

00:44:48.000 It is a nonstop commercial of America decline and humiliation.

00:44:53.000 There's no spinning this.

00:44:55.000 It's humiliating.

00:44:56.000 And it's not going to go away.

00:44:57.000 It's humiliating. 0.99

00:44:58.000 And oh, by the way, Americans are going to die. 0.98

00:45:01.000 We have a... 0.83

00:45:02.000 Do you think that's going to happen?

00:45:05.000 There's a good chance of it.

00:45:06.000 I pray it doesn't.

00:45:08.000 And I like to be an optimist because right now people watch this and I want to encourage them.

00:45:12.000 I will tell you, there's good people in Pakistan.

00:45:14.000 There's good people in Afghanistan.

00:45:15.000 I'm not talking about the people causing the problems.

00:45:18.000 I'm talking about the everyday people that want their children educated and they want a better life for them.

00:45:23.000 There are people in Kabul, Charlie, that did not grow up under the old Taliban.

00:45:28.000 They have never known anything but freedom in Kabul.

00:45:32.000 They didn't, they weren't, now out in the districts, it's different, but in Kabul, they didn't, they have coffee shops.

00:45:37.000 Not everyone wears a covering or a hijab.

00:45:40.000 Not everyone wears a burqa.

00:45:41.000 And they had a freedom.

00:45:43.000 And these kids are coming unglued because their limited freedom means more to them than anything.

00:45:49.000 They meant so much to a soccer player that he held on to an aircraft as it took off.

00:45:54.000 And we metaphorically here are voluntarily not even getting on the plane as citizens and engaging in our politics to keep our country free.

00:46:06.000 And I think it's, I couldn't agree with you more.

00:46:09.000 I know what you hope to happen, but realistically, what is the Biden regime going to do?

00:46:13.000 Are they going to wise up or are they going to be just paralyzed by their own gutless?

00:46:17.000 The only play the Biden regime has is to ask for help from those that know what they're doing.

00:46:22.000 If they don't, it's not that they don't want to do the right thing.

00:46:25.000 They do not have the ability or the capacity within their current dysfunctional organization, I believe, to do the right thing.

00:46:33.000 I think they're going to be forced to do that.

00:46:35.000 I pray they are.

00:46:36.000 I pray that Mark Meadows gets a call and they say, hey, look, we have a bigger problem than our political differences.

00:46:45.000 We have Americans and extremists. 0.85

00:46:47.000 And Charlie, can you imagine if he had President Trump come in and consult, ironically enough, the healing?

00:46:55.000 It could help heal the nation.

00:46:56.000 I don't think it's going to happen.

00:46:57.000 Oh, I don't either.

00:46:57.000 But I just said.

00:46:58.000 No, it would.

00:46:59.000 And there are reports, Jack Pasebik put out, that Mark Milley is even saying he wants Trump back because he said this is a disaster.

00:47:07.000 I'll be shocked if Mark Milley's still there in a week.

00:47:09.000 You think so?

00:47:10.000 Why have these generals not resigned?

00:47:12.000 That's a good question.

00:47:13.000 Well, it used to be that if you didn't do something, you would resign.

00:47:17.000 Well, the Japanese culture, they would put a sword through their own summit. 1.00

00:47:20.000 Japanese resigned permanently.

00:47:21.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:47:23.000 But, you know, again, I saw a meme, but it says everything.

00:47:27.000 And it showed the most successful general that won World War II and Mark Milley.

00:47:31.000 And Mark Milley has a Christmas tree of all of his ribbons and everything.

00:47:35.000 And the most successful general World War II has one little line. 0.55

00:47:37.000 But Mark Milley also couldn't pass a fitness test on his best day.

00:47:40.000 No, our generals should not be wrapped in fat.

00:47:44.000 Lord Austin is the fattest general I've ever seen.

00:47:47.000 I know a lot of guys that...

00:47:49.000 Gave me inside baseball and General Milley.

00:47:51.000 Tell me.

00:47:52.000 On his fitness reports, as he would be written up, his nickname was Brickhead.

00:48:01.000 It's not inspiring in leadership roles.

00:48:03.000 And that's the problem, Charlie.

00:48:06.000 It's fine if you just want to talk about wokeness and CRT, but it's absolutely tragic and malfeasance when he's in a position where he's not, I don't know if he's capable of doing it.

00:48:19.000 They should bring back retired generals that know what they're doing.

00:48:22.000 And there's plenty of people.

00:48:23.000 And a good president would have already fired him and replaced him with someone that would do something, but we don't have a commander in chief.

00:48:29.000 No, we don't.

00:48:29.000 All right, we got to wrap it up.

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00:48:59.000 Thanks.

00:49:00.000 Thanks, brother.

The Charlie Kirk Show - August 22, 2021

EXCLUSIVE Afghanistan Intelligence from a Former US Operative that the Corporate Media Doesn't Want You to Know

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