The Charlie Kirk Show - EXCLUSIVE California Recall Update with Larry Elder and Pollster Richard Baris

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00:02:19.000 Hey, everybody.

00:02:20.000 Welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:02:23.000 With us today is a friend of mine, and he's rarely ever wrong.

00:02:27.000 In fact, we had him coming on our program leading up to the election, and he got almost all of his predictions correctly.

00:02:36.000 Richard Barris from the People's Pundit, and also we had you on for the Georgia thing, and you were the one that early said, Hey, we got a problem in Georgia, and you were right.

00:02:44.000 So we're going to hear to talk about California polls.

00:02:47.000 And so, all right, Richard, let's cut through all of the nonsense.

00:02:51.000 Yes, the way it works in California for all of our friends in Maine and Massachusetts and Florida and South Carolina.

00:02:57.000 It's a two-part question: yes or no?

00:02:59.000 Recall Gavin Newsom.

00:03:01.000 And if yes, then who?

00:03:02.000 Let's start with the yes or no.

00:03:04.000 Do you think that the yeses are going to outnumber the no's?

00:03:08.000 Yeah, so we polled a couple weeks back and we had no ahead by a little bit, Charlie.

00:03:13.000 But let me leave this with you.

00:03:15.000 The caveat here is that I thought my share of the, you know, this is part of polling.

00:03:20.000 I thought my share of the white vote was a little bit high.

00:03:23.000 California is usually 45, 50% tops.

00:03:27.000 And I did see other pollsters that had him in the 60s.

00:03:30.000 If you look at who is voting right now, this is why Democrats are nervous.

00:03:34.000 The electorate is very white and it's much older.

00:03:38.000 So if the electorate and we had them at 50, we had whites at 55, but we still had the age breakdown to be pretty young. 0.78

00:03:47.000 So that could be a two-point advantage could easily be swamped by a demographic difference like that.

00:03:54.000 The problem Newsom has, and I was just saying this before, he needs white liberals and Asian voters to come out, and they are the least likely to want to vote.

00:04:05.000 Whites were over 80% certain to vote when we polled them, and Asian voters were in the 50s.

00:04:12.000 So I mean, it really goes to show you, you know, a close race can turn into a nail biter either way.

00:04:20.000 It really can.

00:04:21.000 So you think this is still really tight?

00:04:22.000 Gavin is kind of already sort of saying the polls are showing him with big separation, 10-point lead.

00:04:29.000 He's going to defeat this recall.

00:04:32.000 Are you seeing that?

00:04:33.000 You know, I'm not.

00:04:36.000 I'm not seeing that yet.

00:04:38.000 Is it possible toward the end, California groups together a little bit?

00:04:41.000 I suppose it is.

00:04:42.000 But again, the X factor really is that the most likely somebody is to vote, the more likely they are to vote against him.

00:04:52.000 So we looked at the entire register voter universe too, and Gavin Newsom would survive by probably 10 or 12 points if he got a typical turnout.

00:05:01.000 That's the problem.

00:05:02.000 We didn't see that it was going to be a typical turnout.

00:05:05.000 I can't even tell you guys how many people we spoke to, and they didn't even really know there was an election.

00:05:09.000 I'm not kidding.

00:05:10.000 So as much hype as there has been.

00:05:13.000 That's why, I mean, I do give the possibility that he feels a little bit better.

00:05:17.000 I give it some credence because he's spending an awful lot of money now.

00:05:21.000 And they did that because they knew they were in trouble.

00:05:24.000 He cannot count on Hispanics to come out like a presidential election or a typical governor gubernatorial race.

00:05:31.000 They don't like him.

00:05:32.000 I mean, that's just the reality.

00:05:34.000 He needs his white liberal base, which is, you know, the Bay Area.

00:05:38.000 And he needs those Asian voters that have slid a little bit actually in the last two years.

00:05:45.000 But in the end, when we press them, they said, well, if I go and vote, I'll vote to keep him.

00:05:50.000 So they're the most loyal base that he has.

00:05:53.000 But if you go throughout the Central Valley, Southern California, he's performing very weak there.

00:05:59.000 I mean, people should understand.

00:06:01.000 And we got Virginia around the corner.

00:06:04.000 If Gavin Newsom even survived by 10 points, it's a flashing red light for Democrats.

00:06:10.000 If he's going to talk up a 10-point win, he should survive this recall by 30, 35 points.

00:06:17.000 I mean, this is a very blue state.

00:06:20.000 So, you know, in Virginia, you just can't, you cannot afford a 20-point slide if you're a Democrat in Virginia.

00:06:26.000 Yes, I was going to ask you regionally.

00:06:28.000 So basically, the base for Gavin is that whole Bay Area, right?

00:06:32.000 It's San Jose, it's Oakland, it's downtown San Francisco.

00:06:36.000 But as soon as you start to get into Stockton and you get into Modesto and you get into Fresno and you get into Bakersfield, that kind of Central Valley corridor, that could screw up some of the polling.

00:06:48.000 Am I right, Richard?

00:06:49.000 I mean, they could run up the score almost probably like seven to three almost, like a 70% to 30% margin against Gavin, which could really, it would be more, probably more decisive than a regular election would be because they hate Gavin Newsom in the Central Valley.

00:07:05.000 Yeah, you have.

00:07:06.000 We've benefited too from doing some district-level polling.

00:07:09.000 Some of that's for clients.

00:07:10.000 Some of that's for a public polling project we've done.

00:07:13.000 But take it, take districts like 21, David Veladio, Valadeo, whatever, the Trump impeaching Republican out there.

00:07:20.000 He barely squeaked by, but his district was plus 18.

00:07:24.000 Get rid of him.

00:07:25.000 So that's a basically even district.

00:07:29.000 Jim Costa, I mean, he's a, I don't even know how many year incumbent, very under the radar, barely, barely known, but he won that district 20 points in 2020, even though Trump did much better.

00:07:41.000 But they want to throw out Gavin by an eight-point margin.

00:07:44.000 So I think that some, you know, California is a big state.

00:07:48.000 It's diverse.

00:07:49.000 It is difficult to poll.

00:07:50.000 We weighed a little bit differently, which may explain why we have a little closer race than some of these other people are showing.

00:07:57.000 But in the end, when we drill down into these districts, I mean, he should not be losing California 16 by eight points.

00:08:05.000 I mean, that is, even if he eeks it out, it's an embarrassment.

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00:09:09.000 So, so let's just go through if Gavin Newsom gets recalled.

00:09:14.000 What would be the areas that have to do that?

00:09:16.000 You'd have to have kind of the gay base in San Francisco not turn out, right? 1.00

00:09:22.000 I'm not saying that pejoratively.

00:09:23.000 It's just what it is, right?

00:09:25.000 You have to have the Hispanic, the Hispanic base in kind of LA not turn out, right? 1.00

00:09:31.000 And then you need to have a suburban 180, right?

00:09:35.000 You need to have kind of the Westwood yoga moms and, you know, the Brentwood yoga moms, I mean, and kind of like the Pasadena professors be like, not going to happen.

00:09:47.000 And the reason I'm saying this, though, is that this really is an uphill climb.

00:09:51.000 I mean, California, you need like five different dominoes to fall.

00:09:54.000 Am I right?

00:09:55.000 Yeah, that's a very realistic, I mean, and it's, it's good that we do that with viewers and listeners.

00:10:02.000 Uh, be realistic.

00:10:03.000 It is a very steep hill to climb.

00:10:06.000 But the things you just mentioned, we did see possible, which is why it was close.

00:10:11.000 In LA, for instance, 51% of Hispanics told us in LA they were going to vote.

00:10:17.000 You know, he should trounce the opposition in LA.

00:10:22.000 He should eat at least 30 points out of there.

00:10:25.000 And we were not seeing that.

00:10:26.000 And the reason why is because a lot of the people who did tell us they were going to vote were anti-Newsom.

00:10:32.000 So outside in the county, you know, around Ventura, the suburbs, he was not doing well.

00:10:38.000 And then you had San Diego, for instance, where if San Diego was a bigger margin for no, or for yes to recall him, then probably means Orange County would have been a little bit wider.

00:10:51.000 And it may have been a lead for a minute there, but San Diego was not as pro recall as we expected it to be, or it needs to be.

00:11:00.000 So there are definitely five dominoes, maybe even more that you need to see fall.

00:11:05.000 That white liberal base, you know, which is that Bay Area.

00:11:08.000 He needs the more inland Hispanics for sure. 1.00

00:11:12.000 Central Valley Hispanics, the working Hispanic in the Central Valley.

00:11:15.000 They tend to be more conservative.

00:11:17.000 They do.

00:11:18.000 And they're getting more conservative over the years, but they, for a while, there were the most pro recall.

00:11:25.000 I think what Democrats have tried to do in recent weeks is target two groups of people, voters like them who may think it's not possible.

00:11:36.000 We can't win this thing.

00:11:37.000 So maybe I won't vote.

00:11:39.000 And then two, there were a lot of independents and even Democrats because we had about 18% of Democrats told us they were going to vote yes.

00:11:47.000 But even this big chunk of Democrats who wanted to vote yes, big chunk of independents who want to vote yes, but they're afraid of Republicans.

00:11:53.000 The Republican brand stinks out there.

00:11:56.000 I mean, the party has been anemic.

00:11:57.000 We have to be real about this.

00:11:59.000 And that's why you saw them go after Larry Elder the way you did.

00:12:02.000 You know, he's the face of white supremacy.

00:12:05.000 They have no rational policy argument to make. 0.94

00:12:08.000 So plan B, scare the hell out of everybody.

00:12:10.000 And that is, we actually saw that in the poll numbers where people were like, look, I would like to vote yes.

00:12:17.000 I just don't know what Republicans are going to do to my collective bargaining, to my union, whatever it may be, my health care.

00:12:23.000 So they got a little bit nervous.

00:12:25.000 But on the flip side of that, Charlie, the problems that California is suffering from, there's almost no way to cover them up with politics anymore.

00:12:37.000 Homelessness, cost of living was the most important issue with voting.

00:12:41.000 And when we asked people what about cost of living, they told us housing prices, gas prices, and state and local taxes.

00:12:48.000 Housing prices took half of that.

00:12:51.000 And this is just not working people who tell us this.

00:12:54.000 So, you know, homelessness was up there too.

00:12:57.000 So was crime.

00:12:58.000 The one maybe good thing Gavin Newsome has for him is that coronavirus, if you pump that fear level up, you may scare people back into their coronavirus holes where they care more about the virus than they do cost of living.

00:13:11.000 I'm not sure he was there yet, but so he took a different turn.

00:13:16.000 And instead, let me try to scare them on the idea of a Republican being in the mansion.

00:13:20.000 And that's what he's tried.

00:13:21.000 And I will tell you this, you know, unequivocally: if yes wins, Larry Elder is the next governor.

00:13:26.000 That's it.

00:13:27.000 That was my next question.

00:13:28.000 So just say that.

00:13:29.000 I mean, at the very least, Larry Elder will be able to say he got the most votes out of the, I mean, that's going to happen, right?

00:13:36.000 I mean, Larry will win.

00:13:38.000 He will win the if-yes question.

00:13:40.000 The question is, in the next six days, and as voting is happening, you know, who's going to turn out?

00:13:46.000 And are people going to want to keep one of the worst governors in America? 0.95

00:13:50.000 Yeah.

00:13:50.000 And, you know, ultimately, the state is very blue, but this is a time where the state's suffering from so many problems.

00:13:59.000 They would, they're debating it.

00:14:02.000 Let me just put it that way.

00:14:04.000 So these people would never vote for a Republican presidential candidate.

00:14:08.000 They probably in another year would not vote for a Republican candidate.

00:14:12.000 But this, you know, the situation is so bad now.

00:14:15.000 I, you know, I've told people this, but it's true. 0.99

00:14:17.000 For many people who live in California, including people who have voted Democrat for years, this is their last chance.

00:14:25.000 So, you know, cost of living may just be completely out of control.

00:14:29.000 They have net negative migration, and they really feel like, you know, they would leave the state if they could.

00:14:34.000 And this may be their last chance to do something about it.

00:14:37.000 40%, that's it, told us they enjoy living in California and do not contemplate leaving.

00:14:43.000 The rest told us that they would leave if they could, but they can't because of financial situations.

00:14:49.000 And then the remaining part, which is split about evenly, told us that they're going to leave.

00:14:54.000 They're probably going to.

00:14:56.000 That's not a healthy state.

00:14:57.000 We asked that same question to Floridians about a year ago, and almost 80%, about 78%, told us they were happy living in Florida and never thought about leaving.

00:15:06.000 Andrew?

00:15:07.000 Big contrast.

00:15:08.000 Yeah.

00:15:09.000 Hey, Rich, I've been sort of hanging out here in the background, just soaking it all in.

00:15:13.000 I want to ask you specifically in the time we have remaining, you know, we're about to have Larry on right after you.

00:15:18.000 So we're going to have a chance to talk to the man himself.

00:15:21.000 I'm really curious about this Hispanic vote specifically.

00:15:24.000 Obviously, the state is becoming more Hispanic.

00:15:27.000 You know, they have more kids than basically any other constituency.

00:15:31.000 We still have a lot of Hispanic folks immigrating to California, whether illegally or illegally.

00:15:37.000 We're seeing them become more conservative.

00:15:40.000 You said that before, but there was polling out a couple weeks ago that said that they were the only ethnic group that supported the yes vote.

00:15:49.000 Is that what you're seeing?

00:15:50.000 Or are we losing them back out of these scare tactics you talked about?

00:15:55.000 Yeah, I mean, I think the danger is you could lose them in the end to those scare tactics.

00:16:01.000 Let me, you know, I was talking about California 16 as it, you know, specifically as that district.

00:16:07.000 Democrats won that district by 20 points, but Donald Trump only lost it by seven.

00:16:12.000 So those are the areas where there's room for making gains among Hispanic voters.

00:16:18.000 And there are others too, but it's a great example.

00:16:21.000 They're not hit to the Republican Party, guys.

00:16:23.000 I mean, that's just, they really haven't voted Republican in their lives.

00:16:27.000 And, you know, some of them are new, but they haven't voted Republican.

00:16:30.000 They have no history of that.

00:16:32.000 So there has to be some relationship building there.

00:16:34.000 They just like the message.

00:16:36.000 In a state where Donald Trump was toxic, they like the message.

00:16:41.000 So it's really, it's worth noting.

00:16:43.000 And I will say with Larry Elder, you know, he's been on message. 0.99

00:16:47.000 You know, when we pull what these people care about, you know, if I could put it in a slogan, I guess I would, you know, I would say that California is just unlivable and Newsom is a hypocrite. 0.75

00:17:00.000 Because that is, we asked different things about Gavin Newsom.

00:17:03.000 And what there was bipartisan, widespread support over was that he doesn't practice what he preaches.

00:17:09.000 He even ticked off people who didn't care about lockdowns, you know, from working Hispanics who absolutely hated those lockdowns to the white liberal who doesn't care, is on the computer all day anyway, and is wealthy. 0.99

00:17:25.000 Across the board, these people told us that he's a hypocrite. 0.97

00:17:29.000 So that was an area of vulnerability there. 0.97

00:17:32.000 That and the state is just, if you can be well off financially, but live in an area where it's not really livable, you know, the homelessness situation is disgusting in some parts of Gavin Newsom's own neighborhood.

00:17:45.000 And they told us that, Charlie, this is, it can be gross to walk down streets that we used to love to take strolls down.

00:17:52.000 And then on the flip side of that, for the not so wealthy, that they are, they're suffering financially between the lockdowns and the rising cost of living.

00:18:01.000 So Richard, we have to get Larry Elder on right now.

00:18:04.000 I just want to say the night of the election, we're going to be covering it.

00:18:08.000 I'm sure you'll be covering it live, but you have an open invitation to come in on our broadcast as we do an all-night stream because I kind of want to know what counties are trending where.

00:18:17.000 So we hope you take us up on that.

00:18:19.000 Maybe we could cross-stream at some parts of it or do some crazy things.

00:18:22.000 But final prediction.

00:18:23.000 My final prediction is that it's right in that margin.

00:18:26.000 I'm not trying to get people's hopes up.

00:18:28.000 A month ago, I was very optimistic.

00:18:31.000 I'm right in that kind of cautiously optimistic.

00:18:34.000 I mean, we know they're going to do a lot of funny business and all that nonsense.

00:18:37.000 What do you say?

00:18:39.000 As it comes down right now, what are you thinking?

00:18:42.000 Yeah, I'm right where you are.

00:18:43.000 I really am.

00:18:44.000 You know, you never want to, you never want to over talk something.

00:18:49.000 It's a tremendous hill to climb.

00:18:51.000 They have a ton of money.

00:18:52.000 And yeah, it's California.

00:18:54.000 They pull shenanigans. 0.99

00:18:55.000 Anyone who says they don't is a liar.

00:18:57.000 It's that simple.

00:18:59.000 But if it, if Charlie, it is absolutely possible that this thing can go so much against them that they, you know, they would have to be, they would have to be playing games for weeks and weeks.

00:19:10.000 And I'm, if the electorate pulls out the way that it suggests in the ballot tracking, which I'm talking about right now, what's been returned, then Gavin Newsome still has a lot of work to do.

00:19:22.000 But again, I'm with you.

00:19:24.000 I'm cautious, cautious, very.

00:19:27.000 Very good.

00:19:28.000 All right.

00:19:28.000 Right in the margin.

00:19:29.000 Well, thank you very much, Richard.

00:19:29.000 All right.

00:19:31.000 And I hope you join us on election night.

00:19:32.000 We'll be streaming the entire thing.

00:19:34.000 Talk to you soon.

00:19:35.000 Thanks so much.

00:19:35.000 Thanks, Rich.

00:19:36.000 All the best, guys.

00:19:36.000 Let's do it.

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00:20:48.000 Hey, everybody, with us is the man who might become governor of California, Larry Elder, elect elder.com, electelder.com.

00:20:56.000 We endorsed Larry early on.

00:20:58.000 I'm glad we did.

00:20:59.000 He has surged in the polls, and it looks like Larry is going to win the plurality as if the polls are right, but we don't know.

00:21:06.000 Larry, how's it going out there in the field in California?

00:21:08.000 Well, I think it's going well.

00:21:11.000 As you pointed out, I clearly have the plurality on the replacement side: whether or not 50% plus one voters in California vote to recall Gavin Newsom.

00:21:22.000 And it's my job to remind people why nearly 2 million people signed that petition, Charlie, to get this guy out of here.

00:21:27.000 Almost a third of them were the very people that voted for him just two years earlier.

00:21:30.000 And by that, I'm talking about independents and Democrats.

00:21:33.000 I should even add Hispanics.

00:21:35.000 63% of Hispanics voted for him two years ago.

00:21:38.000 And now the majority of Hispanics want him out, largely because Gavin Newsom shut down public education.

00:21:44.000 And before he shut down public education, kids educated in our government schools were already behind.

00:21:49.000 Our scores are near the bottom of all 50 states while we're spending $15,000 per student per year and not getting sufficient bank for our buck.

00:21:57.000 He also shut down the state to the point where a third of all small businesses are now gone forever.

00:22:02.000 And many of these small businesses were owned by black and brown and Asian American people, the kind of people that people like Gavin Newsom pride themselves on caring about.

00:22:10.000 And so, Larry, this is something that has now become a national kind of issue, the California recall.

00:22:17.000 And Gavin Newsom is very nervous, and he's largely nervous because he has a formidable opponent in you and the message that you are bringing forward.

00:22:25.000 And you've kind of set the entire American kind of political community on fire, and you've stayed so disciplined.

00:22:32.000 I just want to say they've tried to trap you in so many different ways. 0.92

00:22:35.000 And I got to ask you, Larry, what is it like to be called saying that you are the black face of white supremacy?

00:22:40.000 I mean, have you seen it all at this point now?

00:22:44.000 Yeah, well, you know, Charlie, I work real hard to earn that title, so just don't dismiss it. 0.91

00:22:49.000 Look, it's ludicrous.

00:22:51.000 You know, I was looking at a New York Times front page article about my race, and it was a negative article, of course. 0.98

00:22:56.000 And it did not mention the fact that I'm black.

00:23:01.000 Even though I would be the first black governor of California, I've never ever asked anybody to vote for me because I'm black or to vote against me because I'm black.

00:23:08.000 But on the very same page, there was a big article about the current governor of New York being, quote, the first female governor of New York.

00:23:15.000 Even though she didn't run, she was basically appointed because the other guy resigned, but that was a big deal.

00:23:21.000 But my race wasn't even referred to because when you're the first black conservative, they don't care about you being the first.

00:23:27.000 It's a kind of double standard, Charlie, that you and I have been talking about for a very long time.

00:23:31.000 I've been talking about and writing about this for almost 35, 40 years in television and in radio.

00:23:36.000 So it does not surprise me.

00:23:38.000 I'm scaring the crap out of them.

00:23:40.000 The reason I'm scaring the crap out of them is because I'm from the inner city. 0.68

00:23:43.000 I wasn't on third base and thought I hit a triple like my opponent.

00:23:46.000 My father came here with nothing.

00:23:48.000 Eighth grade dropout education made it to the middle class by hard work and by believing in himself and by believing in America.

00:23:54.000 That's not the message the left wants to hear.

00:23:56.000 They want to hear about systemic racism.

00:23:58.000 They want to hear about critical race theory.

00:24:00.000 They want to hear about reparations.

00:24:01.000 So I am a direct threat to their narrative.

00:24:04.000 That's exactly right.

00:24:05.000 So Larry, I just got to ask you as a friend and as just someone who's curious, since you've jumped into this race, obviously you were in touch with the grassroots.

00:24:12.000 You were on radio for years.

00:24:14.000 What have you learned about politics, Larry, since getting involved in this?

00:24:17.000 I'm just personally curious.

00:24:19.000 Yeah.

00:24:20.000 Well, you know, if you know my show, and I know you do, I've never been one of those who ridiculed political people in politics, never called them funny names.

00:24:28.000 I never made jokes about him because I always knew it was a hard gig that your personal life is exposed.

00:24:33.000 And every two years, four years, six years, there's a thumbs up or a thumbs down over your job and you can lose your job.

00:24:39.000 But I must tell you, I had no idea how rigorous it was to run on a campaign.

00:24:44.000 I've only been doing it for six weeks.

00:24:46.000 You hear my voice already is being stressed.

00:24:49.000 Imagine doing this for an entire year, having this kind of schedule.

00:24:53.000 I'm up.

00:24:53.000 I get my first interview at seven.

00:24:55.000 I give my last interview at eight o'clock at night.

00:24:57.000 And I'm doing print.

00:24:58.000 I'm doing TV.

00:24:59.000 I'm doing radio.

00:25:00.000 I'm doing rallies.

00:25:01.000 I'm doing fundraisers, which you have to do if you're going to be successful.

00:25:04.000 And one of my campaign aides, I said to him, he's very experienced.

00:25:08.000 I said, does everybody who runs for office lose his voice?

00:25:12.000 He says the only ones who don't are the ones who don't work hard.

00:25:14.000 And it's just the way it is.

00:25:16.000 And so I have even more respect for people, whether they're Democrats or Republicans, to get into this game, Charlie, than I did before.

00:25:23.000 And I think what's so important about that is just to think about kind of Larry came into this with no prior experience.

00:25:31.000 And you didn't ask for this.

00:25:32.000 You know, you contemplated it for a while, Larry, and you kind of really shook up this race.

00:25:35.000 So you've been all over the state.

00:25:37.000 You've been to our friend Rob McCoy's church and Jack Hibbs' church and Greg Farrington's church.

00:25:42.000 Let's talk more broadly.

00:25:43.000 Just do you see something that's happening, Larry, that's even bigger than the California recall of people that are stepping up that want to take their country back.

00:25:51.000 Absolutely.

00:25:51.000 So many people, Charlie, have told me, Larry, you've inspired me.

00:25:55.000 I'm now going to run for school board.

00:25:57.000 I'm now going to run for city council.

00:25:58.000 I wasn't going to get into politics, but now that you've done it and I've seen what you've sacrificed, Larry, you have inspired me to get into politics.

00:26:06.000 People keep telling me how much courage I have.

00:26:07.000 I never thought of it that way, Charlie.

00:26:09.000 I felt I have an obligation, a spiritual, a moral, and a patriotic duty to do this because I feel that I'm the only one that can beat Gavin Newsome.

00:26:16.000 No disrespect to my Republican rivals, but they didn't have the same name recognition that I have.

00:26:21.000 They have been talking about these issues for 27 years, writing about them for 27 years like I have.

00:26:26.000 And I felt that I could do something and I can make things better on crime, on homelessness, on the outrageous cost of living, on the way this man shut down this state while ignoring science while his own kids were enjoying in-person education, on fire management, on water management, and on energy.

00:26:43.000 I can do something to make things better for Californians.

00:26:46.000 And I feel I have a moral, a spiritual, and a patriotic duty to do that.

00:26:49.000 And that's why I'm doing it.

00:26:50.000 Obviously, I'm not doing it for fame.

00:26:52.000 I'm not doing it for money.

00:26:54.000 I'm doing it because I really think I can make things better.

00:26:56.000 Well, and so talk a little bit about that of what you would be, what would you do, Larry?

00:27:01.000 And also kind of give some of our national audience, it's again, electelder.com, just kind of the timeframe here.

00:27:07.000 We're up against a deadline, right?

00:27:10.000 The election is right around the corner.

00:27:12.000 You know, the opposition is spending money like you can't believe.

00:27:17.000 And so talk a little bit about this last-minute sprint.

00:27:20.000 And then what will some of your actions be if all of a sudden we wake up and Larry Elder's governor, which very well might happen?

00:27:26.000 Well, the last minute sprint is to remind people of why 2 million people signed this petition to get him out.

00:27:30.000 As I mentioned, about a third of them were independents as Democrats who just voted for him two years earlier.

00:27:36.000 I'm reminding people of how their kids are really getting shafted because they didn't go back to in-person education about the businesses that have been shut down because this man ignored science and didn't allow business owners and employees to figure it out.

00:27:49.000 And what's going on here is it's become a national issue.

00:27:53.000 That's why he's brought in all this heavy lumber from outside.

00:27:56.000 Elizabeth Warren cut a commercial for him.

00:27:58.000 Kamley Harris is here.

00:27:59.000 Joe Biden has weighed in.

00:28:00.000 Nancy Pelosi has weighed in.

00:28:02.000 And what they haven't, what you've never heard any one of them say, Charlie, is, and I'm quoting, Governor Gavin Newsom has done a good job for California, close quote.

00:28:11.000 You haven't heard that.

00:28:12.000 All you've heard is that this is a Republican takeover, a right-wing takeover, but no defense about crime, which is up.

00:28:18.000 No defense about homelessness, which is up.

00:28:20.000 No defense about the fact that people are leaving California for the very first time in this state that's 170 years old.

00:28:26.000 And they're citing high cost of living, taxes, and excessive regulation.

00:28:30.000 You don't hear any defense of all that.

00:28:31.000 All you're hearing is let's change the conversation.

00:28:34.000 Let's talk about issues that have nothing whatever to do with why people have signed this petition and want this guy out.

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00:29:46.000 And so now we're at this moment where it looks like, Larry, you will win the plurality amongst all of your other opponents.

00:29:53.000 The question is, are they going to cut the corners enough to try to get the yes-no question?

00:29:58.000 What are you seeing and hearing, Larry, on that?

00:30:00.000 And let's make that case.

00:30:02.000 We need people to vote yes, recall Newsome.

00:30:05.000 It's kind of confusing.

00:30:06.000 And honestly, I'll be very honest.

00:30:09.000 The way that they created the ballot is really, I don't think it benefits the Democrats.

00:30:14.000 The question's like halfway down on the ballot.

00:30:17.000 And I think some people are going to be like, yes, I want to keep Gavin Newsom because, I mean, you never know.

00:30:21.000 I mean, you're dealing with a lot of Democrats here.

00:30:23.000 Three to 5%.

00:30:25.000 So talk about how that's the most important question, isn't it, Larry?

00:30:28.000 That we got to get 50 plus one to say, yes, we want Gavin Newsom out.

00:30:33.000 By far, it's the most important question.

00:30:33.000 That's right.

00:30:35.000 And you pointed it out: 50% plus one must vote yes to recall Gavin Newsom.

00:30:39.000 And then the second part is, who do you want to replace him?

00:30:42.000 And obviously, I want people to vote for me, but you asked me what I would do if I became governor.

00:30:46.000 I'll tell you what I won't do.

00:30:48.000 I won't impose statewide mandates the way this guy has on face masks and on vaccines.

00:30:54.000 He has mandated that every government worker who's not been vaccinated be tested once a week and will be required to wear a face mask at work.

00:31:01.000 Now, I don't get it.

00:31:02.000 I've been vaccinated.

00:31:03.000 I'm not anti-vax because of my age and because of other underlying comorbidities.

00:31:08.000 But for crying out loud, a lot of people have made a very different decision.

00:31:12.000 And for him to tell people who assume the risk you need to wear a mask at work to protect yourself against other people who assume the risk, it's anti-science.

00:31:20.000 And he's supposed to be the one who's pro-science.

00:31:22.000 I'm also going to declare a statewide emergency on housing.

00:31:26.000 We have environmental laws that prevent developers from developing low-cost housing, which is why the price of a home in California has just hit $800,000, which is anywhere from 150% to 250% above the national average.

00:31:38.000 I'm also going to declare a statewide emergency on water.

00:31:41.000 We have all sorts of projects for more reservoirs to raise dams and to store water underground.

00:31:47.000 We do have our wet seasons, and we're not doing that.

00:31:50.000 Water is draining right out into the Pacific Ocean because of these projects are being held up for fear of lawsuits.

00:31:55.000 I'm going to declare a statewide emergency on water.

00:31:57.000 So there are going to be some big changes when I get there, even though I'll be dealing with a hostile legislature.

00:32:02.000 Well, and there's a lot of power that the California governor could have.

00:32:06.000 And also, this would send shockwaves all throughout the national political community.

00:32:11.000 So, Larry, I know that you're losing your voice and you're traveling the state.

00:32:15.000 In closing, how can people help you in this last sprint?

00:32:17.000 Because we want to stay supportive of you.

00:32:20.000 And, you know, you've been so good to our show and at turning point.

00:32:23.000 How can people help you?

00:32:24.000 Electelder.com.

00:32:25.000 And we have a lot of California listeners.

00:32:27.000 If people have already voted, what else can they do?

00:32:29.000 Well, get 10 of your friends to also vote.

00:32:31.000 Make sure you sign the ballot.

00:32:32.000 Make sure you turn it in.

00:32:33.000 If you don't trust the mail, Charlie, you can track it online or you can drop it off at a voting center and throw a little something in the tip jar because my opponent has spent so far $75 million from the usual suspects, the teachers' union, the public sector unions, Hollywood, big tech.

00:32:48.000 They're going to outspend us probably about 10 to 1.

00:32:50.000 They're also going to pull all sorts of shenanigans.

00:32:52.000 If you see or hear of anything that you think is suspicious, we had a voter integrity project on electelder.com.

00:32:57.000 We're going to file lawsuits in a timely fashion so courts can't throw them out claiming that we waited too long.

00:33:02.000 So throw something in the tip jar. 0.80

00:33:04.000 Tell 10 of your friends to vote.

00:33:06.000 Make sure you sign the ballot and make sure you turn it in right now.

00:33:10.000 Electelder.com, electelder.com.

00:33:12.000 It says right there on the website, make phone calls to registered voters, print at home and distribute elect elder flyers.

00:33:19.000 Encourage your family, friends, and neighbors to vote yes.

00:33:22.000 Encourage your families to sign up as volunteers.

00:33:24.000 Change your Facebook and Twitter banners to Elect Elder Graphics and then volunteer as an election integrity watchdog.

00:33:30.000 And Larry, we are in California this weekend to do recall Gavin Newsom events.

00:33:35.000 We're doing one in San Diego.

00:33:37.000 We're doing one in Orange County.

00:33:38.000 We're doing everything we possibly can to help you out.

00:33:41.000 Anything in closing, Larry, you want to say about your race in this final, final sprint of what has been a pretty crazy six weeks for you?

00:33:47.000 Just again, these people coming in from out of California trying to make this a federal race. 0.70

00:33:52.000 It's not a federal race.

00:33:53.000 It's about California.

00:33:54.000 It's not about Republicans.

00:33:55.000 It's not about even Democrats.

00:33:56.000 It's about Gavin Newsome and his failed leadership.

00:33:59.000 I would love to debate Gavin Newsome, by the way, Charlie.

00:34:01.000 Feel free to call him up and set it up. 0.95

00:34:03.000 See if he'll debate me over his record on crime, over his record on homelessness, over his record on the rising cost of living, over his record over the crappy education that black and brown kids are getting K through 12. 0.98

00:34:13.000 Let's have that debate. 0.95

00:34:14.000 And he doesn't want to have it because he has almost no record at all.

00:34:17.000 Well, Larry, you're a great friend.

00:34:18.000 Keep it up.

00:34:19.000 Don't lose your voice.

00:34:20.000 Electelder.com.

00:34:21.000 And thanks so much for all you're doing.

00:34:23.000 And we'll be watching on election night.

00:34:26.000 And hopefully we can get it over 50 plus one.

00:34:28.000 Thanks for all you're doing.

00:34:29.000 Thank you, Charlie.

00:34:29.000 I'll see you in Sacramento.

00:34:30.000 You bet.

00:34:31.000 All right.

00:34:32.000 Can't wait.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - September 08, 2021

EXCLUSIVE California Recall Update with Larry Elder and Pollster Richard Baris

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