The Charlie Kirk Show - EXPOSED: How the Atheistic, Secular Government Infiltrated American Churches

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00:00:01.000 What's happening in American Christianity?

00:00:03.000 What if I told you that there was a campaign from the federal government to try and keep your church closed?

00:00:10.000 Do you have a pastor that hasn't been making sense in the last couple of years?

00:00:13.000 Well, maybe they're involved in the federal government.

00:00:15.000 Well, an amazing reporter from the Daily Wire shows how the federal government had a deliberate campaign to infiltrate churches across the country and maybe your church.

00:00:24.000 How the atheistic secular government infiltrated churches across the country.

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00:02:10.000 So let's dive into a very important story that's happening and then has happened, which is who is controlling the American church?

00:02:22.000 What if I told you that the federal government had infiltrated parts of American evangelical Christianity?

00:02:33.000 Well, Megan Basham from the Daily Wire has done some amazing investigative reporting on this and research.

00:02:40.000 Megan, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:02:42.000 Thanks so much for having me, Charlie.

00:02:44.000 So Megan, tell us, you had an amazing video that I watched, and I wanted to have you on the program.

00:02:50.000 So build it out for us.

00:02:52.000 How was the American church really infiltrated by left-wing COVID narratives in the midst of the last two years?

00:03:01.000 Well, you know, we've done a couple of extensive reports on this and they were all kind of condensed in that video.

00:03:07.000 And it really started at the beginning of COVID when the federal government dispatched Francis Collins to, he was the head of the NIH, the National Institutes of Health, Anthony Fauci's boss, and he was dispatched to convince evangelicals to stop being resistant.

00:03:25.000 And he was, he's been very clear and on record on tape saying, I was sent to deal with evangelical resistance to lockdowns, to mask mandates, to vaccine mandates.

00:03:37.000 So he went into churches.

00:03:40.000 He had a lot of really strong relationships with what you might call the elite evangelical class.

00:03:46.000 Some very well-known pastors like Tim Keller, Rick Warren, Ed Stetzer at the Billy Graham Center at Wheaton College, Russell Moore, who was then head of the public policy arm of the largest Protestant denomination in the U.S., which is the Southern Baptist Convention.

00:04:04.000 So, just some really influential people.

00:04:06.000 And he drew on those friendships to do interviews, podcasts, where he was presented as this strong Christian brother to come on and give advice on how and why to submit to all of these COVID rules.

00:04:22.000 And when he presented these things, he didn't do it just from a medical point of view.

00:04:27.000 He, along with these pastors, presented it as: this is how you show your love for Jesus.

00:04:33.000 This is how you obey the gospel.

00:04:35.000 And that was really something that they didn't just say, look, we're presenting a scientific point of view.

00:04:41.000 Here is one scientist you might want to listen to.

00:04:43.000 They didn't present any counter points of view from the scientific community, but that they really punched it up with: if you want to love your neighbor, if you want to obey Christ, this is how you do it.

00:04:55.000 Was there any money exchanged from the federal government to these churches?

00:04:59.000 So that's something that I'm still looking into because I can tell you that with the Billy Graham Center at Wheaton College, they announced that they were specifically partnering with the CDC to launch a website called Coronavirus and the Church.

00:05:17.000 And so that's something that I am still trying.

00:05:19.000 I've got a FOIA request in, and I'm looking into that because that was a very formal partnership that they were saying we are doing this with the NIH and the CDC.

00:05:27.000 So was Francis Collins being transparent throughout all of this in his dealings with these church leaders?

00:05:34.000 I suppose this kind of government-church collusion, most Christians didn't really realize this was happening.

00:05:42.000 No, I don't think most people did.

00:05:44.000 And, you know, that was really a big part of the issue: as he was presented on these platforms, he was called again and again: this is a strong Christian brother.

00:05:52.000 This is a man who loves the Lord, just like you.

00:05:54.000 And that was kind of the main thrust of it.

00:05:56.000 He's just like you.

00:05:57.000 He's somebody who loves the Lord, who goes to church, who follows Jesus.

00:06:00.000 Well, then you dig into Francis Collins' record, and none of this was presented by any of these Christian leaders.

00:06:06.000 And you find out that under his leadership, the NIH funded record-level fetal tissue research, meaning harvesting organs, harvesting tissue from aborted babies, sometimes full-term, sometimes past term.

00:06:22.000 There has even been some reporting that I am still looking into.

00:06:25.000 Experts, expert medical witnesses have said some of the harvesting that occurred had to have been done to still living infants.

00:06:34.000 And on top of that, Francis Collins launched an initiative for sexual and gender minority research.

00:06:40.000 So if you hear that term, you go, I don't know what that means.

00:06:43.000 Well, what it means is he personally put his name, launched this initiative, said, I am an ally of the trans community.

00:06:50.000 And one of the things he funded was research to give opposite sex hormones to children as young as eight, to give mastectomies to girls as young as 13.

00:07:01.000 So that was the kind of research that Francis Collins was funding during his tenure at the NIH.

00:07:06.000 And none of that was disclosed.

00:07:08.000 Now, some of these leaders, I go, did Timothy Keller know about this?

00:07:12.000 I don't know, but I know for sure that Russell Moore did because we obtained leaked audio from an event at the University of Chicago in October with Russell Moore and Francis Collins.

00:07:23.000 And at that event, Francis Collins again defended that type of research.

00:07:28.000 And Russell Moore said, well, you know, I don't know that I agree with it, but I can still respect him as a Christian brother.

00:07:34.000 So it was very clear that Russell Moore knew.

00:07:37.000 And none of these leaders, none of these Christian leaders, none of these pastors have answered any questions about what they knew when and why they platformed Francis Collins the way they did.

00:07:48.000 And they certainly won't talk to me.

00:07:50.000 Yeah.

00:07:50.000 So we do know this was a formal NIH initiative.

00:07:54.000 And we know that Francis Collins used government resources behind it.

00:07:58.000 And just so everyone that's listening to understand that might not be in the Christian circles, Rick Warren, Timothy Keller, Ed Stetzer, these are big deals in American Christianity.

00:08:09.000 They have massive churches.

00:08:10.000 They have significant followings.

00:08:12.000 They get published in all of the kind of mainline Christian journals.

00:08:17.000 Do you have suspicion or evidence that there was something beyond just the interviews that happened between Collins and Warren?

00:08:24.000 Was there something deeper happening that reached more pastors that impacted the kind of middle-level churches across the country?

00:08:32.000 Well, you know, one of the things that Francis Collins said in his interview with Warren and with some of these other pastors was that he really encouraged them to convince other pastors to convince the people, the people in the pews, convince them to sign on with these mandates, convince them to, you know, do what the government is asking them to do.

00:08:50.000 And in all of these interviews, Warren in particular, Keller also, NT Wright, were very disparaging of the pastors like, say, John MacArthur in Los Angeles, who were resisting COVID mandates and lockdowns.

00:09:04.000 So, you know, I'm still looking into some of this.

00:09:06.000 One thing I can tell you that really set off alarm bells for me was when Rick Warren explained where he met Francis Collins and where he met him was at Davos with the World Economic Forum.

00:09:17.000 Yes.

00:09:18.000 Warren was in Davos.

00:09:20.000 Yeah.

00:09:20.000 And so I am, you know, and I, you poke around, and I will tell you what, it's really hard to get some information about that going, what was Rick Warren doing at Davos?

00:09:28.000 What is a pastor doing there?

00:09:30.000 And, you know, as you continue to unfold it, some interesting little color to this story is that so many of these guys, Tim Keller, N.T. Wright, Russell Moore, were Connect Pete Winner at the Atlantic, were connected to Francis Collins via this apparently very elite book club that they're all a member of.

00:09:50.000 And, you know, when you dug through all the interviews and reports, they all kept mentioning this book club that they're all a member of.

00:09:56.000 And so you go, okay, what were the conversations at that book club where they all just ended up on each other's platforms, praising each other, coming on to do interviews?

00:10:06.000 And so it's just this very, you know, elbow rubbing, tony set of people that seem to be working to prop each other up.

00:10:15.000 Yeah, I mean, I guarantee you there was money exchange.

00:10:18.000 I don't know if you'll ever be able to prove it, but Rick Warren going to Davos and Ed Stetzer and Russell Moore.

00:10:27.000 These are all the social justice Christians impact so many of our listeners.

00:10:32.000 And this is an important wrinkle that the tyrannical lockdown policy, they saw some looming and bubbling up resistance.

00:10:41.000 So they deployed Fauci's boss, not just Fauci, but the person on top of Fauci.

00:10:47.000 Is that correct?

00:10:49.000 That is correct.

00:10:50.000 Into the trenches to try and say, no, it's actually the loving thing and the Christian thing to lock down all society. 0.99

00:10:58.000 And they fought, they attacked people that stayed open like Rob McCoy and like Jack Hibbs and like so many others.

00:11:04.000 So very important reporting.

00:11:05.000 And I hope that these pastors will be held accountable for the evil that they did.

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00:12:14.000 Let's play cut 34, which was the video that kind of prompted this interview.

00:12:18.000 Play cut 34, please.

00:12:20.000 The federal government used evangelical leaders to spread COVID propaganda.

00:12:25.000 But Collins and Fauci didn't just rely on the mainstream media to get their messages out to the public.

00:12:30.000 There's also evidence that Collins specifically tapped into his friendships with numerous high-profile pastors and church leaders to further spread the government's COVID narratives.

00:12:41.000 These weren't just messages about getting vaccinated, but also arguing for government vaccine mandates.

00:12:48.000 Collins also used the platforms of his church leader friends to urge pastors to teach their congregations that if they wanted to obey Jesus's command to love their neighbors, then they must comply with government mandates on keeping churches closed and businesses closed and keeping children masked.

00:13:06.000 So, what do these pastors say now, Megan, when you ask them about their alliance with these secular pro-trans, pro-fetal tissue cell lockdown government officials?

00:13:19.000 But, you know, I wish I could tell you that they're saying anything.

00:13:21.000 I can't get a response from any of them.

00:13:24.000 You know, I had a scheduled interview with Francis Collins himself, and he canceled on me when he was running about 15 minutes late, you know, past the time of our interview.

00:13:33.000 I then reached out to the NIH and spoke with some of their representatives, continuing to try to get an interview with him.

00:13:39.000 No luck.

00:13:40.000 Same thing with Russell Moore.

00:13:42.000 I've reached out to him multiple times.

00:13:44.000 There's always some scheduling conflict.

00:13:45.000 I actually ran into him in an airport.

00:13:48.000 And, you know, being an intrepid journalist, I was standing right in line behind him.

00:13:52.000 We were on the same flight.

00:13:53.000 And I said, excuse me, Dr. Moore, what a coincidence.

00:13:56.000 Megan Basham with the Daily Wire.

00:13:58.000 Can I ask you about your relationship with Francis Collins?

00:14:02.000 And he said, no, no, no, I can't talk about that.

00:14:04.000 Call my office, which of course I, yeah, I did, of course.

00:14:07.000 And once again, he had scheduling conflicts and could not speak to me.

00:14:11.000 And, you know, Charlie, a really important point I wanted to make, particularly about Moore, was that all of these people presented Francis Collins, along with being a Christian brother, they presented him as politically neutral.

00:14:23.000 So, you know, he put himself out there: look, I am not a political guy.

00:14:26.000 I am a scientist.

00:14:27.000 I am a doctor.

00:14:28.000 I'm just here representing the National Institutes of Health.

00:14:32.000 This is not about partisanship.

00:14:33.000 Well, in that leaked audio that came out of the University of Chicago event in David Axel Rod's Institute of Politics, where he did not know he was being recorded, he and Moore lambasted white evangelicals.

00:14:47.000 So they talked about white evangelicals voting for Trump.

00:14:50.000 He specifically said that the white evangelicals who voted for Trump made a devil's bargain.

00:14:56.000 And he blamed former President Trump for hundreds of thousands of COVID deaths, which is frankly ridiculous from a scientific point of view because under Trump, we had much fewer COVID deaths than we have had under Biden.

00:15:09.000 And he had a better record and he wasn't benefiting from the already in place vaccine and policies that the Trump administration had put in place.

00:15:18.000 So all of this notion that he was this non-political actor was just blown out of the water with this leaked audio.

00:15:24.000 It became very clear that he's a partisan, and it became very clear that Russell Moore is also a partisan.

00:15:30.000 And that was also probably a motivating factor for what they were out there doing in furthering the Biden administration, in particular,'s COVID narratives.

00:15:40.000 Let's play cut 35, please.

00:15:42.000 Continues from your video, Play Cut 35.

00:15:46.000 The names of the pastors and organizations who held Collins out as the authoritative voice Christians should listen to during the pandemic are some of the most well-known in American Protestant circles: Christianity Today magazine, the Billy Graham Center, missions expert Ed Stetzer, the Gospel Coalition, Pastor Timothy Keller, theologian N.T. Wright, the Ethics and Religious Liberty Center, Russell Moore.

00:16:10.000 All of them were telling lay Christians in the pews that they should rely on Collins for COVID advice.

00:16:18.000 Incredible.

00:16:18.000 Hard to believe that there's not money behind that.

00:16:21.000 Well, especially when you consider that, you know, Collins' scientific advice was not very good either.

00:16:29.000 As short a period of time as September, he was arguing that children still need to be masked. 0.94

00:16:35.000 Now, we know that that is ridiculous.

00:16:36.000 We now know that cloth masks don't have much of an effect.

00:16:40.000 And, you know, just even until just a few months ago, he was holding up a cloth mask saying this is a life-saving device.

00:16:47.000 Well, that's something that even the CDC has backed away from.

00:16:50.000 At that University of Chicago event in October, he was saying that we need to mandate vaccines with a threat of job loss.

00:16:58.000 I mean, he was very clear, like he thinks it is fine for people to be fired and lose their jobs for refusing to take the vaccine.

00:17:05.000 And his reasoning was so that they don't spread the virus. 0.75

00:17:09.000 Well, that is also scientifically ridiculous. 0.80

00:17:11.000 Yeah.

00:17:12.000 Dailywire.com, your reporting's been great.

00:17:14.000 If anyone listening has given money or attends any of these fraudsters' churches, please email them and say, why would you do this?

00:17:21.000 Why did you bend a knee to the government while churches were attacked and pastors were fined and some arrested?

00:17:28.000 It's just extraordinary.

00:17:29.000 Thank you so much for joining us.

00:17:30.000 Phenomenal reporting and some of the most important as we try to unpack what happened during the Fauci virus hysteria.

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00:19:02.000 The elites are losing their mind.

00:19:04.000 The people on top are just, they are not happy.

00:19:08.000 Elon Musk, now the largest shareholder of Twitter.

00:19:14.000 And the response has been so interesting.

00:19:17.000 Wall Street Journal.

00:19:19.000 Musk acquires 9% of Twitter, becoming its top shareholder.

00:19:23.000 Elon Musk disclosed a 9% stake in Twitter.

00:19:27.000 The surprise move sent Twitter stock up 27% on Monday in the securities filing.

00:19:33.000 Monday, Mr. Musk reported owning nearly 73.5 million shares of Twitter, and he has agreed to buy up to more than 14.9% while on the board, and he is now on the board of directors.

00:19:44.000 How many people are on the board of directors now?

00:19:47.000 This is from Parag Agarwal, who has said, quote, Mr. Musk, the appointment of Mr. Musk as a director, I would just love to see the board meetings of Elon Musk and Parag Agarwal, the anti-American, anti-free speech CEO of Twitter, hates our values, directly at war with them.

00:20:10.000 I'm still banned from Twitter.

00:20:14.000 Maybe Elon Musk is coming to the rescue.

00:20:16.000 Now, I don't like taking credit for things, and I don't even think that it would be right if I did.

00:20:23.000 But I think us protesting Twitter and not deleting the tweet definitely played a role.

00:20:28.000 It definitely was part of it.

00:20:30.000 I can't stand when people say, I did this.

00:20:32.000 Okay, enough.

00:20:33.000 But it was Babylon B and then us, and then I texted Tucker, and then Tucker tweeted up both Babylon B and us.

00:20:40.000 Tucker did a segment on it.

00:20:42.000 And Elon does have a relationship with the Babylon B, which helped a lot.

00:20:45.000 And there's new revelations that the Babylon B and Elon Musk talked privately.

00:20:51.000 Tucker got suspended, were suspended.

00:20:53.000 Everybody got suspended.

00:20:54.000 And now Twitter's going to have to deal with Elon Musk in the boardroom.

00:20:58.000 Tucker Carlson had some thoughts on this.

00:21:00.000 Let's play Cut 49.

00:21:01.000 Let's be very clear.

00:21:02.000 This is not a business transaction.

00:21:04.000 It's much bigger than that.

00:21:05.000 Elon Musk is a massive threat to the way things are.

00:21:08.000 So, by definition, it will not be long before they are calling him a racist.

00:21:12.000 You can mark your calendar.

00:21:14.000 Tonight, there are Democratic operatives studying everything Elon Musk has ever said in public.

00:21:18.000 They're preparing one of the nastiest campaigns of character assassination in memory.

00:21:22.000 They have no choice but to do this.

00:21:24.000 Restoring free speech to Twitter is the greatest possible threat to the people in charge.

00:21:30.000 They have to control the information.

00:21:32.000 If they don't, they fall.

00:21:36.000 They need suppression.

00:21:37.000 They need to be able to censor people. 0.97

00:21:39.000 Now, Tucker's right that they're going to send every one of their scum journalists after Elon Musk. 0.98

00:21:46.000 We deal with these degenerates quite often. 0.98

00:21:49.000 And they're going to fail.

00:21:52.000 You know why?

00:21:53.000 So let's pretend you're a reporter for the Huffington Post.

00:21:57.000 Elon could just buy it.

00:21:58.000 He's like, I'm just going to buy it.

00:22:00.000 I'm going to fire you.

00:22:04.000 These people, they believe it's their mission to destroy others.

00:22:09.000 I'm talking about these activists, the activist press.

00:22:11.000 They're going to do everything they possibly can to try to suppress Elon Musk, but this is a power move.

00:22:17.000 This is now a power shift where someone in power, Elon Musk, comes into a fight and starts to push back against the status quo.

00:22:29.000 It's a change of terrain.

00:22:32.000 Let's play Cut 56.

00:22:34.000 Jen Psaki was asked about this.

00:22:36.000 Play Cut 56.

00:22:38.000 I have a quick question on Elon Musk and him taking out the 9% stake in Twitter, which makes him the largest shareholder in the company.

00:22:45.000 Obviously, the White House uses Twitter quite extensively, and Musk has been very critical of President Biden.

00:22:52.000 I'm wondering if there is perhaps any recalibration of the use of the platform or to what extent the White House is using Twitter going forward.

00:23:01.000 It's a decision of a private sector leader.

00:23:03.000 I don't have any specific comment on it, but I expect we will continue to use Twitter, as you all will as well, I would expect.

00:23:10.000 Just the fact that they had to ask the question, Reuters' White House correspondent, Nadita Bosey, or Bose or whatever, just shows you how far gone.

00:23:19.000 Basically, they were trying to egg them on, like, come on, it's going to become a right-wing platform.

00:23:23.000 Are you guys going to protest it?

00:23:24.000 Please tell us you're protested.

00:23:25.000 And Jen Saki's like, Yeah, I guess we'll keep on using it.

00:23:29.000 So, what is the current viewpoint of Twitter as we're still banned from Twitter?

00:23:34.000 Well, Parag Agarwal, again, it's tough to understand what he's saying in this video.

00:23:40.000 So, good luck.

00:23:42.000 Play cut 19.

00:23:44.000 Our role is not to be bound by the First Amendment, but our role is to serve a healthy public conversation.

00:23:52.000 And our moves are reflective of things that we believe lead to a healthier public conversation.

00:23:58.000 The kinds of things that we do to worry about this is to focus less on thinking about free speech, but thinking about how the times have changed.

00:24:09.000 One of the changes today that we see is speech is easy on the internet.

00:24:14.000 Most people can speak.

00:24:15.000 Where our role is particularly emphasized is who can be heard.

00:24:20.000 So, yeah, if you didn't get a lot of that, I didn't either.

00:24:22.000 You have to kind of read the transcript.

00:24:24.000 Tough listen.

00:24:25.000 But he's in charge of Twitter.

00:24:27.000 He's in charge of what happens, what doesn't happen.

00:24:29.000 Elon thinks this is wrong.

00:24:32.000 Now, for all the people that are really angry about Elon, he is technically an African-American.

00:24:37.000 So now you have an African-American that controls Twitter. 1.00

00:24:40.000 Drives him nuts when you say that.

00:24:41.000 He's from South Africa, of course.

00:24:44.000 So this is a reshuffling of the power dynamics when it comes to speech in our country.

00:24:53.000 So there are 12 members on the Twitter board of directors.

00:24:58.000 There is Brett Taylor, who was the co-CEO of Salesforce, Parag Agarwal, the guy that you couldn't understand a word of what he was just saying.

00:25:06.000 Mimi Alamahiu, private partnership at MasterCard, Jack Dorsey, Agan Durban from Silverlake, Martha Fox, don't know who that is, Amid Kordostani, former executive chairman of Twitter, Dr. Feifei Lee, no relation to Fang Fang, I don't think, from Stanford, both from the Bay Area.

00:25:28.000 Fang Fang, of course, the lover of Swalwell. 0.86

00:25:33.000 Patrick Peschet from Google, David Rosenblott from firstdibs.com, and Robert Zolick from Alliance Bernstein Holding.

00:25:46.000 So they have a board of directors, an audit committee, a compensation committee, a nominating and governments committee, a risk committee, all that.

00:25:54.000 Them being publicly traded.

00:25:59.000 And so the entire dynamic of this company is more than just the economics.

00:26:05.000 And that's something where I think Twitter is now going to be challenged because Elon doesn't really care about the money of this.

00:26:12.000 He doesn't really care about the finances, couldn't care less.

00:26:15.000 He cares whether or not people will be able to speak freely and get their ideas out.

00:26:19.000 I just can't, I can't wait for that first board meeting.

00:26:21.000 Like, why are you guys doing this?

00:26:24.000 And by the way, what's so amazing is that Elon at any point in the meeting can be like, that's it.

00:26:29.000 I'm going to buy another $10 billion.

00:26:32.000 I'm going to buy more shares.

00:26:33.000 He could end the meeting.

00:26:34.000 And everyone in the room knows that because he's so wealthy.

00:26:39.000 Elon has some mixed, I have some mixed views on Elon on some things, including Neuralink.

00:26:44.000 But he's certainly right on the West's declining birth rate, play cut 20.

00:26:49.000 Listen to this.

00:26:50.000 There are not enough people.

00:26:52.000 I can't emphasize this enough.

00:26:53.000 There are not enough people.

00:26:54.000 I think one of the biggest risks to civilization is the low birth rate and the rapidly declining birth rate.

00:27:01.000 And yet so many people, including smart people, think that there are too many people in the world and think that the population is growing out of control.

00:27:08.000 It's completely the opposite.

00:27:09.000 Please look at the numbers.

00:27:11.000 If people don't have more children, civilization is going to crumble.

00:27:14.000 Mark my words.

00:27:16.000 He's correct.

00:27:17.000 Cut 21.

00:27:18.000 Elon talks about how living forever on earth, this kind of push towards eternity on earth, not eternity in the spiritual realm, like Christian eternity, but people trying to prolong life here.

00:27:28.000 It's actually a really bad thing for society.

00:27:29.000 Play cut 21.

00:27:31.000 It is important for us to die because, you know, most of the times people don't change their mind. 0.85

00:27:35.000 They just die.

00:27:35.000 If we live forever, then we might become a very ossified society where new ideas cannot succeed.

00:27:41.000 I don't know if we're going to find an age.

00:27:43.000 I'm just saying if we've got people in very important positions that have to make decisions that are critical to the security of the country, they need to have sufficient presence of mind and cognitive ability to make those decisions well because the whole country's depending on them.

00:28:00.000 You're not allowed to say any of those things.

00:28:02.000 The regime believes the opposite.

00:28:03.000 Too many people live forever, get the population down to 500 people and do weed all day and do everything.

00:28:10.000 You know, just don't ask any questions.

00:28:13.000 And Elon being a critic of wokeism, of these cancerous pathogens, these idea pathogens.

00:28:22.000 I don't know how this is going to play out.

00:28:24.000 But I know this, no one's richer than him.

00:28:27.000 I know this that he could take over the whole company and he might.

00:28:31.000 Breaking the last couple hours, Twitter has come out and they've come out and said, quote, we will not reinstate Trump despite Elon Musk vowing significant change to woke platform.

00:28:39.000 We'll see.

00:28:40.000 Elon could buy all you guys out.

00:28:42.000 And people are already studying, all of a sudden, they're resigning from Twitter.

00:28:45.000 I'm seeing some of these tweets.

00:28:47.000 I will not stand for a platform that fights for hate speech.

00:28:53.000 Okay.

00:28:54.000 Go work for some Democrat super PAC.

00:28:57.000 Basically, what Twitter has become.

00:28:59.000 The fight for free speech is fundamental to the entire civilization.

00:29:05.000 And as we've played the tape of us trying to get closer to a new world order, free speech is a threat to the new world order.

00:29:11.000 You know that Elon Musk is not part of any of that Davos crowd.

00:29:15.000 He's not.

00:29:15.000 He might show up to some of those meetings or whatever, but everything he talks about is at odds to that.

00:29:20.000 Population collapse, not living forever, wokeism against vaccine mandates.

00:29:28.000 He is at direct odds with it.

00:29:29.000 Now, again, I got plenty of problems with some of the things that Elon puts forward: the technological subservience, the overindulgence in green and clean energy, or allegedly clean energy, which it isn't.

00:29:42.000 But I don't mind the fact that the World Economic Forum finally has a challenger who's richer than them.

00:29:49.000 The World Economic Forum, a Klaus Schwab, talking about the New World Order, in order to get the New World Order done, they need silence of the citizens.

00:29:58.000 They need really to turn you into subjects.

00:30:00.000 They need silent subjects.

00:30:02.000 Elon knows this.

00:30:04.000 Elon knows that if people are quiet, tyranny will reign.

00:30:08.000 So he wants more conversation.

00:30:10.000 He wants the best ideas to win.

00:30:12.000 He doesn't want stagnation.

00:30:14.000 He wants creativity.

00:30:15.000 He wants curiosity.

00:30:17.000 If your idea is bad, then you'll be told it's bad and you've got to defend yourself.

00:30:20.000 Instead, where we are now, it's we're in this society where whoever has the most money and the most power and the bigger stick gets to determine who gets to speak.

00:30:30.000 Well, guess what?

00:30:31.000 Elon has the most money.

00:30:32.000 His bank account is the biggest.

00:30:33.000 That's why this is important.

00:30:35.000 No one has a bigger bank account than him.

00:30:37.000 Not Bill Gates, not Bezos, none of them.

00:30:40.000 So therefore, the person with the biggest bank account, if they get determined the rules of engagement and those rules of engagement are going to be free speech, God bless him.

00:30:47.000 It's just like Joe Rogan.

00:30:49.000 Rogan and Musk are two of the most unexpected developments against the regime.

00:30:55.000 And when I say regime, I mean not Biden.

00:30:57.000 I mean the whole planet of World Economic Forum folks.

00:31:02.000 They're going to try to destroy Musk like they tried with Rogan, but they failed with Rogan and they're going to fail with Musk.

00:31:08.000 Barack Obama was just at the White House with Joe Biden.

00:31:12.000 Probably don't have enough time to get into all that.

00:31:14.000 There's this great video.

00:31:16.000 The event kind of comes to an end, and everyone rushes over to be with Barack, Amy Klobuchar, Nancy Pelosi.

00:31:23.000 And Joe Biden is just kind of left wandering aimlessly on stage.

00:31:29.000 No one wants to be with Joe Biden.

00:31:30.000 Oh, we do have the cut.

00:31:31.000 Is it cut 60?

00:31:32.000 Is that right?

00:31:33.000 I'll narrate this.

00:31:34.000 Okay, put it up, cut 60.

00:31:36.000 All right, so the event is over.

00:31:38.000 Joe Biden's looking for people to embrace him.

00:31:41.000 Nope, not to the right.

00:31:43.000 He looks at Obama, who's getting all the love as it pans out.

00:31:48.000 He just kind of does another U-turn and he says, I don't know.

00:31:51.000 And he just puts his hands out and says, I don't know.

00:31:54.000 Aimlessly wanders.

00:31:56.000 Old man, aimless. 0.91

00:31:57.000 Let's play that tape again.

00:31:58.000 I want you on the live stream to ask yourself the question before we put that.

00:32:01.000 Who is actually, who's president of the United States?

00:32:04.000 Watch this.

00:32:04.000 Answer me, who is the president?

00:32:06.000 Play tape.

00:32:07.000 Who is the president here?

00:32:09.000 This guy?

00:32:11.000 Nope.

00:32:12.000 No.

00:32:13.000 Even the guy in the military turns his back on him.

00:32:16.000 I don't think they could do that.

00:32:18.000 The sergeant-at-arms turn their back on him.

00:32:24.000 People coalesce around the power center the same way planets rotate around the sun.

00:32:29.000 At events, you could see this.

00:32:30.000 No, I mean, I mean that.

00:32:31.000 I mean, when you're at CPAC or if you're at one of these events, when all of a sudden you kind of see the crowds, you're like, okay, who is it?

00:32:37.000 What is it?

00:32:38.000 Who is it?

00:32:39.000 It's not to say that that's the most important depiction, but it tells you something.

00:32:43.000 It also tells you in a room like that, where there's quote-unquote important people like Pelosi and all these criminals, when they start to rotate around Obama and not Biden, Obama is the center of gravity.

00:32:56.000 He is the center of this galaxy.

00:33:00.000 And Joe Biden is Pluto, no longer deemed a planet.

00:33:04.000 Okay, let's get to some more sound here.

00:33:06.000 Different this whole thing here, this is just a short little story.

00:33:12.000 We're going to have to build it out.

00:33:14.000 So Senator Josh Hawley is trying to introduce legislation to make tougher sentences for child porn offenders.

00:33:20.000 And Dick Durbin thinks that's not a good idea.

00:33:22.000 Dick Durbin wants Josh Hawley, no, he wants child predators to be let off the hook, which kind of gets into what Rudy Giuliani was talking about.

00:33:31.000 If you didn't get a chance to listen to that, listen to our episode with Rudy Giuliani about Hunter Biden and potentially having that on his laptop, allegedly.

00:33:38.000 We can't confirm that.

00:33:39.000 That's Rudy Giuliani that said that.

00:33:41.000 Play cut 54.

00:33:42.000 These guidelines that you promulgated don't reflect the reality of today.

00:33:47.000 We know as well that the guidelines were written, some were written, in an era when the materials we're talking about were physical materials, and we now live in a world of internet and access to not just tens and hundreds, but thousands of images, if that is your decision.

00:34:09.000 If that is your decision.

00:34:11.000 Is that your decision, Dick Durbin?

00:34:12.000 Why do you have a soft spot for child pornographers? 1.00

00:34:16.000 If that is your decision, what if the entire goal of having Katanji Brown Jackson nominated, one of the other goals, was to move the Overton window and how we view child pedophilia and pornography?

00:34:28.000 What if that was part of the goal?

00:34:31.000 Senator Hawley wants to introduce tougher legislation because Katanji Brown Jackson has a soft spot for these people.

00:34:37.000 And Dick Durbin says, look, come on. 0.97

00:34:39.000 What are you crazy?

00:34:40.000 They're looking at images. 0.82

00:34:42.000 I don't think they're doing anything wrong.

00:34:43.000 They're trying to move the Overton window.

00:34:46.000 Cut 58, Gensaki was asked about women's sports.

00:34:51.000 We think Gensaki is a woman.

00:34:53.000 Play Cut 58.

00:34:54.000 Okay, a question about college sports.

00:34:56.000 In some places like the Ivy League now, there are biological males competing against women. 0.99

00:35:02.000 Does the White House think that is fair?

00:35:05.000 Well, I would note that we're not the governing body for the NCAA or any other system out there that I believe you're probably referring to the case over in swimming in the NCAA.

00:35:18.000 We understand how important sports are to student athletes across the country, but the NCAA obviously makes, puts these policies in place.

00:35:26.000 What a serpent.

00:35:27.000 She's such a dark person. 1.00

00:35:29.000 Seriously. 0.98

00:35:30.000 Dark soul.

00:35:31.000 Not standing up for women's sports. 1.00

00:35:34.000 It's unbelievable.

00:35:35.000 Oh, you know, he was asking, do you think it's fair?

00:35:38.000 Not whether or not you're on some sort of committee or any of that.

00:35:42.000 I've had enough of these people.

00:35:43.000 Email us your thoughts, freedom at charliekirk.com.

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00:35:52.000 Jensaki can't leave the White House soon enough to go to SNBC, where she'll be right amongst other colleagues.

00:35:57.000 But I'll tell you what, there's a reckoning coming this November.

00:36:00.000 These people are going to pay a political price at every single level for what they've done, the damage they've done to our country.

00:36:07.000 Thank you so much for listening, everybody.

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