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00:00:01.000What's happening in American Christianity?
00:00:03.000What if I told you that there was a campaign from the federal government to try and keep your church closed?
00:00:10.000Do you have a pastor that hasn't been making sense in the last couple of years?
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00:00:24.000How the atheistic secular government infiltrated churches across the country.
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00:02:52.000How was the American church really infiltrated by left-wing COVID narratives in the midst of the last two years?
00:03:01.000Well, you know, we've done a couple of extensive reports on this and they were all kind of condensed in that video.
00:03:07.000And it really started at the beginning of COVID when the federal government dispatched Francis Collins to, he was the head of the NIH, the National Institutes of Health, Anthony Fauci's boss, and he was dispatched to convince evangelicals to stop being resistant.
00:03:25.000And he was, he's been very clear and on record on tape saying, I was sent to deal with evangelical resistance to lockdowns, to mask mandates, to vaccine mandates.
00:03:40.000He had a lot of really strong relationships with what you might call the elite evangelical class.
00:03:46.000Some very well-known pastors like Tim Keller, Rick Warren, Ed Stetzer at the Billy Graham Center at Wheaton College, Russell Moore, who was then head of the public policy arm of the largest Protestant denomination in the U.S., which is the Southern Baptist Convention.
00:04:04.000So, just some really influential people.
00:04:06.000And he drew on those friendships to do interviews, podcasts, where he was presented as this strong Christian brother to come on and give advice on how and why to submit to all of these COVID rules.
00:04:22.000And when he presented these things, he didn't do it just from a medical point of view.
00:04:27.000He, along with these pastors, presented it as: this is how you show your love for Jesus.
00:04:35.000And that was really something that they didn't just say, look, we're presenting a scientific point of view.
00:04:41.000Here is one scientist you might want to listen to.
00:04:43.000They didn't present any counter points of view from the scientific community, but that they really punched it up with: if you want to love your neighbor, if you want to obey Christ, this is how you do it.
00:04:55.000Was there any money exchanged from the federal government to these churches?
00:04:59.000So that's something that I'm still looking into because I can tell you that with the Billy Graham Center at Wheaton College, they announced that they were specifically partnering with the CDC to launch a website called Coronavirus and the Church.
00:05:17.000And so that's something that I am still trying.
00:05:19.000I've got a FOIA request in, and I'm looking into that because that was a very formal partnership that they were saying we are doing this with the NIH and the CDC.
00:05:27.000So was Francis Collins being transparent throughout all of this in his dealings with these church leaders?
00:05:34.000I suppose this kind of government-church collusion, most Christians didn't really realize this was happening.
00:05:44.000And, you know, that was really a big part of the issue: as he was presented on these platforms, he was called again and again: this is a strong Christian brother.
00:05:52.000This is a man who loves the Lord, just like you.
00:05:54.000And that was kind of the main thrust of it.
00:05:57.000He's somebody who loves the Lord, who goes to church, who follows Jesus.
00:06:00.000Well, then you dig into Francis Collins' record, and none of this was presented by any of these Christian leaders.
00:06:06.000And you find out that under his leadership, the NIH funded record-level fetal tissue research, meaning harvesting organs, harvesting tissue from aborted babies, sometimes full-term, sometimes past term.
00:06:22.000There has even been some reporting that I am still looking into.
00:06:25.000Experts, expert medical witnesses have said some of the harvesting that occurred had to have been done to still living infants.
00:06:34.000And on top of that, Francis Collins launched an initiative for sexual and gender minority research.
00:06:40.000So if you hear that term, you go, I don't know what that means.
00:06:43.000Well, what it means is he personally put his name, launched this initiative, said, I am an ally of the trans community.
00:06:50.000And one of the things he funded was research to give opposite sex hormones to children as young as eight, to give mastectomies to girls as young as 13.
00:07:01.000So that was the kind of research that Francis Collins was funding during his tenure at the NIH.
00:07:08.000Now, some of these leaders, I go, did Timothy Keller know about this?
00:07:12.000I don't know, but I know for sure that Russell Moore did because we obtained leaked audio from an event at the University of Chicago in October with Russell Moore and Francis Collins.
00:07:23.000And at that event, Francis Collins again defended that type of research.
00:07:28.000And Russell Moore said, well, you know, I don't know that I agree with it, but I can still respect him as a Christian brother.
00:07:34.000So it was very clear that Russell Moore knew.
00:07:37.000And none of these leaders, none of these Christian leaders, none of these pastors have answered any questions about what they knew when and why they platformed Francis Collins the way they did.
00:07:50.000So we do know this was a formal NIH initiative.
00:07:54.000And we know that Francis Collins used government resources behind it.
00:07:58.000And just so everyone that's listening to understand that might not be in the Christian circles, Rick Warren, Timothy Keller, Ed Stetzer, these are big deals in American Christianity.
00:08:12.000They get published in all of the kind of mainline Christian journals.
00:08:17.000Do you have suspicion or evidence that there was something beyond just the interviews that happened between Collins and Warren?
00:08:24.000Was there something deeper happening that reached more pastors that impacted the kind of middle-level churches across the country?
00:08:32.000Well, you know, one of the things that Francis Collins said in his interview with Warren and with some of these other pastors was that he really encouraged them to convince other pastors to convince the people, the people in the pews, convince them to sign on with these mandates, convince them to, you know, do what the government is asking them to do.
00:08:50.000And in all of these interviews, Warren in particular, Keller also, NT Wright, were very disparaging of the pastors like, say, John MacArthur in Los Angeles, who were resisting COVID mandates and lockdowns.
00:09:04.000So, you know, I'm still looking into some of this.
00:09:06.000One thing I can tell you that really set off alarm bells for me was when Rick Warren explained where he met Francis Collins and where he met him was at Davos with the World Economic Forum.
00:09:20.000And so I am, you know, and I, you poke around, and I will tell you what, it's really hard to get some information about that going, what was Rick Warren doing at Davos?
00:09:30.000And, you know, as you continue to unfold it, some interesting little color to this story is that so many of these guys, Tim Keller, N.T. Wright, Russell Moore, were Connect Pete Winner at the Atlantic, were connected to Francis Collins via this apparently very elite book club that they're all a member of.
00:09:50.000And, you know, when you dug through all the interviews and reports, they all kept mentioning this book club that they're all a member of.
00:09:56.000And so you go, okay, what were the conversations at that book club where they all just ended up on each other's platforms, praising each other, coming on to do interviews?
00:10:06.000And so it's just this very, you know, elbow rubbing, tony set of people that seem to be working to prop each other up.
00:10:15.000Yeah, I mean, I guarantee you there was money exchange.
00:10:18.000I don't know if you'll ever be able to prove it, but Rick Warren going to Davos and Ed Stetzer and Russell Moore.
00:10:27.000These are all the social justice Christians impact so many of our listeners.
00:10:32.000And this is an important wrinkle that the tyrannical lockdown policy, they saw some looming and bubbling up resistance.
00:10:41.000So they deployed Fauci's boss, not just Fauci, but the person on top of Fauci.
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00:12:20.000The federal government used evangelical leaders to spread COVID propaganda.
00:12:25.000But Collins and Fauci didn't just rely on the mainstream media to get their messages out to the public.
00:12:30.000There's also evidence that Collins specifically tapped into his friendships with numerous high-profile pastors and church leaders to further spread the government's COVID narratives.
00:12:41.000These weren't just messages about getting vaccinated, but also arguing for government vaccine mandates.
00:12:48.000Collins also used the platforms of his church leader friends to urge pastors to teach their congregations that if they wanted to obey Jesus's command to love their neighbors, then they must comply with government mandates on keeping churches closed and businesses closed and keeping children masked.
00:13:06.000So, what do these pastors say now, Megan, when you ask them about their alliance with these secular pro-trans, pro-fetal tissue cell lockdown government officials?
00:13:19.000But, you know, I wish I could tell you that they're saying anything.
00:13:21.000I can't get a response from any of them.
00:13:24.000You know, I had a scheduled interview with Francis Collins himself, and he canceled on me when he was running about 15 minutes late, you know, past the time of our interview.
00:13:33.000I then reached out to the NIH and spoke with some of their representatives, continuing to try to get an interview with him.
00:13:58.000Can I ask you about your relationship with Francis Collins?
00:14:02.000And he said, no, no, no, I can't talk about that.
00:14:04.000Call my office, which of course I, yeah, I did, of course.
00:14:07.000And once again, he had scheduling conflicts and could not speak to me.
00:14:11.000And, you know, Charlie, a really important point I wanted to make, particularly about Moore, was that all of these people presented Francis Collins, along with being a Christian brother, they presented him as politically neutral.
00:14:23.000So, you know, he put himself out there: look, I am not a political guy.
00:14:33.000Well, in that leaked audio that came out of the University of Chicago event in David Axel Rod's Institute of Politics, where he did not know he was being recorded, he and Moore lambasted white evangelicals.
00:14:47.000So they talked about white evangelicals voting for Trump.
00:14:50.000He specifically said that the white evangelicals who voted for Trump made a devil's bargain.
00:14:56.000And he blamed former President Trump for hundreds of thousands of COVID deaths, which is frankly ridiculous from a scientific point of view because under Trump, we had much fewer COVID deaths than we have had under Biden.
00:15:09.000And he had a better record and he wasn't benefiting from the already in place vaccine and policies that the Trump administration had put in place.
00:15:18.000So all of this notion that he was this non-political actor was just blown out of the water with this leaked audio.
00:15:24.000It became very clear that he's a partisan, and it became very clear that Russell Moore is also a partisan.
00:15:30.000And that was also probably a motivating factor for what they were out there doing in furthering the Biden administration, in particular,'s COVID narratives.
00:15:42.000Continues from your video, Play Cut 35.
00:15:46.000The names of the pastors and organizations who held Collins out as the authoritative voice Christians should listen to during the pandemic are some of the most well-known in American Protestant circles: Christianity Today magazine, the Billy Graham Center, missions expert Ed Stetzer, the Gospel Coalition, Pastor Timothy Keller, theologian N.T. Wright, the Ethics and Religious Liberty Center, Russell Moore.
00:16:10.000All of them were telling lay Christians in the pews that they should rely on Collins for COVID advice.
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00:19:19.000Musk acquires 9% of Twitter, becoming its top shareholder.
00:19:23.000Elon Musk disclosed a 9% stake in Twitter.
00:19:27.000The surprise move sent Twitter stock up 27% on Monday in the securities filing.
00:19:33.000Monday, Mr. Musk reported owning nearly 73.5 million shares of Twitter, and he has agreed to buy up to more than 14.9% while on the board, and he is now on the board of directors.
00:19:44.000How many people are on the board of directors now?
00:19:47.000This is from Parag Agarwal, who has said, quote, Mr. Musk, the appointment of Mr. Musk as a director, I would just love to see the board meetings of Elon Musk and Parag Agarwal, the anti-American, anti-free speech CEO of Twitter, hates our values, directly at war with them.
00:22:38.000I have a quick question on Elon Musk and him taking out the 9% stake in Twitter, which makes him the largest shareholder in the company.
00:22:45.000Obviously, the White House uses Twitter quite extensively, and Musk has been very critical of President Biden.
00:22:52.000I'm wondering if there is perhaps any recalibration of the use of the platform or to what extent the White House is using Twitter going forward.
00:23:01.000It's a decision of a private sector leader.
00:23:03.000I don't have any specific comment on it, but I expect we will continue to use Twitter, as you all will as well, I would expect.
00:23:10.000Just the fact that they had to ask the question, Reuters' White House correspondent, Nadita Bosey, or Bose or whatever, just shows you how far gone.
00:23:19.000Basically, they were trying to egg them on, like, come on, it's going to become a right-wing platform.
00:23:44.000Our role is not to be bound by the First Amendment, but our role is to serve a healthy public conversation.
00:23:52.000And our moves are reflective of things that we believe lead to a healthier public conversation.
00:23:58.000The kinds of things that we do to worry about this is to focus less on thinking about free speech, but thinking about how the times have changed.
00:24:09.000One of the changes today that we see is speech is easy on the internet.
00:24:44.000So this is a reshuffling of the power dynamics when it comes to speech in our country.
00:24:53.000So there are 12 members on the Twitter board of directors.
00:24:58.000There is Brett Taylor, who was the co-CEO of Salesforce, Parag Agarwal, the guy that you couldn't understand a word of what he was just saying.
00:25:06.000Mimi Alamahiu, private partnership at MasterCard, Jack Dorsey, Agan Durban from Silverlake, Martha Fox, don't know who that is, Amid Kordostani, former executive chairman of Twitter, Dr. Feifei Lee, no relation to Fang Fang, I don't think, from Stanford, both from the Bay Area.
00:25:28.000Fang Fang, of course, the lover of Swalwell.
00:25:33.000Patrick Peschet from Google, David Rosenblott from firstdibs.com, and Robert Zolick from Alliance Bernstein Holding.
00:25:46.000So they have a board of directors, an audit committee, a compensation committee, a nominating and governments committee, a risk committee, all that.
00:26:54.000I think one of the biggest risks to civilization is the low birth rate and the rapidly declining birth rate.
00:27:01.000And yet so many people, including smart people, think that there are too many people in the world and think that the population is growing out of control.
00:27:18.000Elon talks about how living forever on earth, this kind of push towards eternity on earth, not eternity in the spiritual realm, like Christian eternity, but people trying to prolong life here.
00:27:28.000It's actually a really bad thing for society.
00:27:35.000If we live forever, then we might become a very ossified society where new ideas cannot succeed.
00:27:41.000I don't know if we're going to find an age.
00:27:43.000I'm just saying if we've got people in very important positions that have to make decisions that are critical to the security of the country, they need to have sufficient presence of mind and cognitive ability to make those decisions well because the whole country's depending on them.
00:28:00.000You're not allowed to say any of those things.
00:28:03.000Too many people live forever, get the population down to 500 people and do weed all day and do everything.
00:28:10.000You know, just don't ask any questions.
00:28:13.000And Elon being a critic of wokeism, of these cancerous pathogens, these idea pathogens.
00:28:22.000I don't know how this is going to play out.
00:28:24.000But I know this, no one's richer than him.
00:28:27.000I know this that he could take over the whole company and he might.
00:28:31.000Breaking the last couple hours, Twitter has come out and they've come out and said, quote, we will not reinstate Trump despite Elon Musk vowing significant change to woke platform.
00:29:29.000Now, again, I got plenty of problems with some of the things that Elon puts forward: the technological subservience, the overindulgence in green and clean energy, or allegedly clean energy, which it isn't.
00:29:42.000But I don't mind the fact that the World Economic Forum finally has a challenger who's richer than them.
00:29:49.000The World Economic Forum, a Klaus Schwab, talking about the New World Order, in order to get the New World Order done, they need silence of the citizens.
00:29:58.000They need really to turn you into subjects.
00:30:17.000If your idea is bad, then you'll be told it's bad and you've got to defend yourself.
00:30:20.000Instead, where we are now, it's we're in this society where whoever has the most money and the most power and the bigger stick gets to determine who gets to speak.
00:30:35.000No one has a bigger bank account than him.
00:30:37.000Not Bill Gates, not Bezos, none of them.
00:30:40.000So therefore, the person with the biggest bank account, if they get determined the rules of engagement and those rules of engagement are going to be free speech, God bless him.
00:32:31.000I mean, when you're at CPAC or if you're at one of these events, when all of a sudden you kind of see the crowds, you're like, okay, who is it?
00:32:39.000It's not to say that that's the most important depiction, but it tells you something.
00:32:43.000It also tells you in a room like that, where there's quote-unquote important people like Pelosi and all these criminals, when they start to rotate around Obama and not Biden, Obama is the center of gravity.
00:33:14.000So Senator Josh Hawley is trying to introduce legislation to make tougher sentences for child porn offenders.
00:33:20.000And Dick Durbin thinks that's not a good idea.
00:33:22.000Dick Durbin wants Josh Hawley, no, he wants child predators to be let off the hook, which kind of gets into what Rudy Giuliani was talking about.
00:33:31.000If you didn't get a chance to listen to that, listen to our episode with Rudy Giuliani about Hunter Biden and potentially having that on his laptop, allegedly.
00:33:42.000These guidelines that you promulgated don't reflect the reality of today.
00:33:47.000We know as well that the guidelines were written, some were written, in an era when the materials we're talking about were physical materials, and we now live in a world of internet and access to not just tens and hundreds, but thousands of images, if that is your decision.
00:34:12.000Why do you have a soft spot for child pornographers?
00:34:16.000If that is your decision, what if the entire goal of having Katanji Brown Jackson nominated, one of the other goals, was to move the Overton window and how we view child pedophilia and pornography?
00:34:54.000Okay, a question about college sports.
00:34:56.000In some places like the Ivy League now, there are biological males competing against women.
00:35:02.000Does the White House think that is fair?
00:35:05.000Well, I would note that we're not the governing body for the NCAA or any other system out there that I believe you're probably referring to the case over in swimming in the NCAA.
00:35:18.000We understand how important sports are to student athletes across the country, but the NCAA obviously makes, puts these policies in place.