The Charlie Kirk Show - Exposing 6 of America's Most Woke Corporations

00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody.

00:00:01.000 American Express, Delta, Ben and Jerry's, what do they have all in common?

00:00:04.000 You should stop using them.

00:00:05.000 My conversation with the blacks who run Second Vote, that's secondvote.com.

00:00:09.000 You could spell it out or you can go 2ndvote.com, use promo code Charlie.

00:00:13.000 Right now, for just $2 a month, you can find out what are the companies doing that you're spending your money.

00:00:18.000 So here's how it works, okay?

00:00:19.000 If you fly Delta Airlines, you just probably gave money to Stacey Abrams. 0.73

00:00:22.000 If you eat Ben and Jerry's ice cream, you basically are giving money to people who hate Jews.

00:00:27.000 Now, if that might trigger you a little bit, then you got to listen to this episode and then you got to get involved with second vote.

00:00:32.000 Remember, what you buy ends up creating the country you want to live in.

00:00:36.000 I know that's a whole new way of framing things.

00:00:38.000 We don't think that way as conservatives.

00:00:40.000 But if you get that ice cream, and I got to admit, Ben and Jerry's ice cream, it's delicious.

00:00:45.000 I'm never having it again because I love Jews. 0.98

00:00:47.000 Unlike Ben and Jerry's, they hate Jews. 0.96

00:00:50.000 I'm never having Coca-Cola ever again. 0.92

00:00:53.000 Why?

00:00:53.000 Because they hate our country.

00:00:54.000 Now, it's a big sacrifice as I sit next to a thing of Fiji water, as someone here bought a Coca-Cola product.

00:01:00.000 They're no longer with us because they bought Coca-Cola products.

00:01:04.000 That's how it works.

00:01:05.000 Secondvote.com informs you to be able to cancel correctly.

00:01:08.000 That's right.

00:01:09.000 We need to learn how to cancel correctly.

00:01:11.000 People say, I don't like cancel culture.

00:01:13.000 I like canceling the left. 0.99

00:01:14.000 Secondvote.com, you need to cancel American Express, cancel all these jerks that have done such damage to our country. 0.99

00:01:21.000 I know that some of you might say, Charlie, you're exaggerating. 0.99

00:01:24.000 Oh, really?

00:01:24.000 Where do you think Planned Parent had gets some of their money from?

00:01:27.000 Where do you think Bernie Sanders gets his money from, Ben and Jerry's?

00:01:30.000 Where do you think some of these Democrat politicians are financed by?

00:01:34.000 Try Bank of America, Wells Fargo.

00:01:36.000 So if you want to expand your horizon and really purchase what you believe in, don't buy products from people who hate you.

00:01:46.000 Don't buy products from people who hate you.

00:01:48.000 It's secondvote.com, and this is my conversation of how you can cancel correctly.

00:01:53.000 Oh, yeah.

00:01:54.000 And producer Andrew's with me, co-pilot, and not of Delta Airlines.

00:01:58.000 I can assure you, Note, but we do talk about how Andrew drives a Japanese car.

00:02:02.000 We do talk about that.

00:02:03.000 Buckle up, everybody, here.

00:02:05.000 We go.

00:02:05.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:02:07.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

00:02:09.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:02:12.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:02:16.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:02:17.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:02:18.000 His spirit, his love of this country.

00:02:20.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

00:02:26.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

00:02:35.000 That's why we are here.

00:02:37.000 Hey, everybody.

00:02:38.000 Welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:02:40.000 With us is our monthly report with our wonderful partners from secondvote.com, 2ndvote.com.

00:02:48.000 That is 2ndvote.com.

00:02:51.000 Producer Andrew is helping co-pilot the ship today.

00:02:54.000 Yes, sir.

00:02:55.000 Happy to be here.

00:02:55.000 With us today are the wonderful blacks, Diane Black and Dr. David Black.

00:03:00.000 Welcome back, both of you.

00:03:02.000 It's great to be with you, Charlie.

00:03:04.000 Thank you very much for having us.

00:03:06.000 Thank you.

00:03:07.000 There is a lot happening, and I want to encourage everyone listening to take $2 a month, which is basically what it costs, $25 a year with our promo code, to be able to know where you are spending money and how that aligns with your values, which is why we're doing this partnership, because it's really important.

00:03:24.000 The corporate space in the culture war is incredibly critical right now.

00:03:29.000 So I want to talk first about American Express, which according to all public news reports, they urge their staff to adopt a hierarchy putting marginalized above privilege to abolish capitalism.

00:03:40.000 Strange how American Express wants to crush capitalism.

00:03:45.000 The floor is yours, guys.

00:03:46.000 Well, Charlie, it is remarkable.

00:03:48.000 You know, here we have for-profit enterprises adopting really a set of policies that are only going to cause harm to who we are as a people, to our country, ultimately to even their own business.

00:04:03.000 But the American Express, this training program that they're putting their employees through is breaking everybody up into tribes.

00:04:11.000 This is so un-American. 0.93

00:04:12.000 You know, we're supposed to come together as a single people from many different places, but this is truly a practice.

00:04:21.000 This is a program that is designed to differentiate people and place them into these different groups and then pit them against each other.

00:04:29.000 But the American Express program also has anti-law enforcement in it.

00:04:35.000 They have a program of advocating for no law enforcement, no prisons, no consequence to actions.

00:04:42.000 It's absolutely an incredible destructive program that they are engaged in.

00:04:50.000 And not overly surprising.

00:04:52.000 Andrew, you had that article pulled up about how American Express waged war on itself.

00:04:56.000 Yeah, this is the headline from an article, actually from Heritage.

00:05:00.000 So I have to give proper attribution here.

00:05:02.000 American Express wages a woke war on itself.

00:05:06.000 It's embarked on racial justice initiatives, including woke employee training programs.

00:05:12.000 Executives are being asked to disregard their real world experience.

00:05:16.000 That sounds like a recipe for success, Dr. Black.

00:05:20.000 And virtually everything they've been taught about economics.

00:05:23.000 Also, sounds like a recipe for success.

00:05:25.000 I think we're seeing that in our inflation statistics recently with the Biden administration, but I digress.

00:05:32.000 And I don't want to get ahead of ourselves here because later in this interview, we're going to talk about the scoring system that you guys have on secondvote.com.

00:05:43.000 And by the way, one quick note that they gave me actually is that you don't have to type in 2ndvote.com.

00:05:49.000 You can actually just spell it out too.

00:05:52.000 You could go both routes.

00:05:53.000 And it all directs to the same spell.

00:05:55.000 Then that makes my read a lot better because I don't want them to go to some sort of other weird website.

00:06:00.000 So second vote, however you want to put it in, it will get you to the website.

00:06:03.000 But here's what's interesting.

00:06:04.000 Like I said, I don't want to get ahead of ourselves here because we are going to get to this self-scoring tool that you guys have on your website, which is fantastic.

00:06:13.000 But American Express is just like basically awful across the board.

00:06:17.000 I mean, it blew me away because I actually picked American Express as the company that I might use for a certain thing.

00:06:23.000 And we'll get to this later.

00:06:25.000 And it was like the lowest score that you guys give a company, American Express gets.

00:06:30.000 I mean, this is this, so it's not just CRT.

00:06:33.000 It's not just, I mean, apparently they're just awful across the board.

00:06:37.000 Maybe, maybe you could explain to us more about that.

00:06:39.000 Now, if you've been following Second Vote, we could have told you for years that they're not a good actor and they have scored terribly on our issues that we track, the Judeo-Christian issues that we track.

00:06:50.000 And so, yeah, they are self-destructive.

00:06:52.000 I mean, what company really engages in actively and enthusiastically supporting abortion?

00:07:00.000 You know, don't you want more customers?

00:07:02.000 Don't you want more investors?

00:07:03.000 Don't you want the possibility of more employees?

00:07:06.000 And don't you want the possibility of more money?

00:07:08.000 I mean, isn't that what we really are?

00:07:10.000 The great American dream is not just money, but it's being successful and whatever you determine that to be.

00:07:16.000 But if you tell our kids these days, oh, no, we don't want to be successful.

00:07:20.000 Well, who are the people that are going to control us when we don't have the ability to be successful?

00:07:26.000 And this, you start digging a little deeper and it gets really scary.

00:07:30.000 All right.

00:07:31.000 So that story from Heritage was on the 22nd.

00:07:34.000 And I just pulled up Amex stock price.

00:07:37.000 And it goes up.

00:07:38.000 And it went up.

00:07:40.000 It went up on the 24th.

00:07:42.000 So yesterday it went up quite a bit.

00:07:45.000 Well, and it goes up because a lot of our side doesn't really understand the corporate warfare side.

00:07:50.000 So, should people stop using American Express?

00:07:52.000 I say yes, but I will be honest, though, for a lot of the high-net worth people that we deal with, there really isn't a competitor to American Express.

00:07:59.000 Capital One is the largest credit card company with over 40 million users.

00:08:04.000 Is there a competitor to American Express?

00:08:06.000 I mean, American Express has an ability to cater to the needs and wants of America's ruling class a lot better than any other credit card, like Visa.

00:08:17.000 What's your thought on that?

00:08:19.000 Well, sure, it's a corporate credit card for so many corporations.

00:08:23.000 But Discover scores better.

00:08:27.000 But here's the thing you can do.

00:08:28.000 You know, one of the things we don't advocate at second vote boycotts, but what we want is engagement.

00:08:34.000 And so we can plead with our subscribers and our followers, go to our website, and through our website, you can communicate to American Express.

00:08:44.000 You can send them a message directly through our website, and you can tell them you don't like their engagement, what they're doing socially, and let them know.

00:08:53.000 And of course, we haven't talked about second vote advisors yet, but through your invested dollars, you can also put pressure on American Express.

00:09:01.000 And there you can remove your investments out of American Express, move them somewhere else into a better corporation.

00:09:08.000 But with regard to the spending dollar, if you have to use American Express, you can still express your opinion on their engagement.

00:09:16.000 And I would communicate to them what they're doing now is they're teaching that not everybody is equal.

00:09:22.000 We're not all created equal.

00:09:24.000 This is a direct attack on our Declaration of Independence.

00:09:26.000 Now they're saying you're more privileged if you are of a particular gender, a particular color.

00:09:34.000 Again, they're breaking us up into tribes.

00:09:36.000 Yeah, totally.

00:09:37.000 And really, the only thing that corporations do understand is money.

00:09:40.000 And so we need to teach them when we don't use their product is if you go woke, you go broke.

00:09:45.000 And that's what we need to do.

00:09:46.000 And I think what we do with our dollars and with our invested dollars as well.

00:09:52.000 So now we want to get to that.

00:09:52.000 We got business.

00:09:54.000 So I don't know if we shared that part of our story, but Diane and I founded a business with a $70,000 loan and with four employees, and it became a $700 million business with 1,000 employees.

00:10:06.000 And, you know, the purpose of the business is to provide a return on investment to your investors, provide the best products and profits you can, and provide the best salary and benefits you can to your employees.

00:10:20.000 And it's certainly not to take your resources and use them for social engineering.

00:10:24.000 That sounds very 2018 of you, Dr. Black, unfortunately.

00:10:30.000 But we do have more stories, right?

00:10:31.000 So we want to get to Bank of America and Lowe's sponsored critical.

00:10:35.000 Yeah, I was just going to make an observation that American Express, American Airlines, Bank of America, all of these companies that use the American name, they'll get rid of it soon, I'm sure.

00:10:47.000 It's impressive.

00:10:48.000 What a disgrace.

00:10:49.000 Okay.

00:10:49.000 Yeah.

00:10:49.000 So Bank of America, which we are terminating our relationship with.

00:10:53.000 Lowe's sponsored critical race theory training urging whites to cede power to people of color.

00:10:59.000 Tell us about this story.

00:11:04.000 Well, again, this is again putting race over merit.

00:11:10.000 This is, again, attempting to shame individuals who are born white.

00:11:16.000 How are you going to change how God created you?

00:11:22.000 It is a, again, it's a racist approach.

00:11:25.000 It's very much, you know, all these corporations are fundamentally in the same business, but Bank of America is another bad actor.

00:11:33.000 We're still waiting for an answer from a shareholders meeting some years ago where their CEO denied from the podium that they were sponsors or supporters of abortion.

00:11:44.000 And we challenged them on that.

00:11:46.000 We never got an answer.

00:11:48.000 We're still waiting for the answer.

00:11:49.000 They said they would get back to us, but they did not.

00:11:52.000 But no, this is, and of course, this is, you know, SunTrust is a part of this as well.

00:12:00.000 SunTrust has merged in 2018 or 2019 into a new entity called Truist.

00:12:05.000 But these companies are all adopting this woke agenda, the CRT training.

00:12:11.000 It's an interesting question.

00:12:14.000 Why?

00:12:15.000 And these are multinational companies now.

00:12:17.000 Let's remember this.

00:12:18.000 These are not just American companies.

00:12:20.000 And they are very much in alignment with what Communist China is doing, what the Davis Group is doing, with the World Economic Forum.

00:12:27.000 These are no longer American companies.

00:12:29.000 That's why these big box international companies are so much of a concern or should be to Main Street America and small town America.

00:12:38.000 And I think it's really important for the people to understand that if we start to get stronger, and when we get stronger, our voice will be loud enough that they will be pressured to make those changes.

00:12:50.000 If everybody's sitting back and just allowing these things to go on and not making any noise, it's only going to get worse.

00:12:56.000 And so that's what our message is to people as well, is to please wake up and listen because many times conservatives, and I've been in both the government end of this and also just in the community end of this.

00:13:09.000 And many times people don't have any idea or realize.

00:13:12.000 And when we tell them about what's happening with their dollars, they're like, oh, no, you got to be kidding me.

00:13:18.000 That's what they're supporting.

00:13:20.000 And so this is a message for the people out there that are to listen.

00:13:23.000 Please wake up.

00:13:24.000 Please take an opportunity to look at secondvote.com and see what's going on.

00:13:28.000 And if it fits your values, then act on those values.

00:13:31.000 Yeah, the problem though that I've found, and Home Depot is better than Lowe's, but there's just not many competitors with some of these.

00:13:37.000 Like, for example, let's just go back to the credit card.

00:13:39.000 What credit card is someone supposed to use?

00:13:42.000 Visa, MasterCard, American Express, they're all terrible.

00:13:45.000 You know, so that's part of the issue, isn't it?

00:13:47.000 Is that at least the feedback we're receiving is people say, well, when you have these kind of oligopolies, like, for example, Delta United American, they're all bad.

00:13:56.000 I guess it's just a matter of picking the best of the worst.

00:14:00.000 Well, and I think, you know, it's got to be by category is really what we're finding, right?

00:14:06.000 It's like some categories, there's better alternatives than other categories.

00:14:10.000 If we find the category where there isn't a good alternative, then somebody needs to rise up.

00:14:14.000 I mean, that's, that's, you know, we're seeing this emergence of these parallel economies, you know, where companies end up, you know, catering specifically to a conservative audience because they're getting, you know, conservatives are getting so targeted by the competition.

00:14:31.000 Nobody wants it to be this way where it's open, openly hostile to half the country.

00:14:35.000 But it certainly seems like there's a trend going on in America right now.

00:14:39.000 And maybe the only way to reverse that trend is to openly declare war on some of these companies by at least and by I say that I say that, you know, obviously not metaphorically.

00:14:50.000 It's metaphorical.

00:14:51.000 Anyways, but that's by supporting these entrepreneurs and the alternatives that we have to support, making them wildly successful.

00:14:59.000 You know, Second Vote was founded to follow the money, but the left recognized many years ago the value of influencing the dollar.

00:15:07.000 And they have pretty much taken over the investment services, the banking world.

00:15:13.000 They've been very, very biggie, biggie, very, very busy while we've been trying to raise families and grow businesses and just be Americans.

00:15:26.000 But they've been very busy with their agenda.

00:15:29.000 They've been busy getting very big, which is absolutely true.

00:15:33.000 And we've actually, this is actually where the mission of Turning Point USA and Second Vote kind of merge because what happens in college campuses and now increasingly in high schools and even earlier than that has bled into corporate boardrooms in the halls of Congress.

00:15:47.000 And this is what you get when you sort of lose a whole generation.

00:15:51.000 And this is what has sort of creeped up on Americans overnight, this rise of the corporate villains is directly linked to losing a whole generation of understanding that the free market system is important, American values are important, families, tradition, all of these things are foundational to our country.

00:16:07.000 We lost it in one generation.

00:16:08.000 It all came out seemingly in a year.

00:16:10.000 And that's why what you guys are doing is so incredibly important.

00:16:13.000 Well, I know we have to move on, but I do want to make one comment about Bank of America again: they are teaching that prejudice against whites now is not racism.

00:16:22.000 You know, now racism is not racism if they say it's not racism.

00:16:25.000 So it's just an incredible.

00:16:28.000 And I do want to make one point.

00:16:30.000 And Charlie, you make a really good point that sometimes there really isn't a good option.

00:16:34.000 But the other option that you have is to get on the website on our site and have an ability to be able to contact the company.

00:16:41.000 And when they start getting lots and lots of calls in about not liking the way they're operating and the choices that they're making with their dollars, with the people's dollars, then those voices start getting louder and louder and they start to pay attention to that.

00:16:57.000 I know when I was in Congress, if you got five calls about an issue, you started realizing there are a whole lot more than five people out there that don't like what you're doing.

00:17:05.000 And I think that's another thing that we can do when there aren't really good choices.

00:17:09.000 Let's pick up the phone and let them know we don't like the way you're operating.

00:17:12.000 And they don't know that necessarily we are not going to find another option.

00:17:15.000 But I think if we do get a big enough voice, it does make a difference.

00:17:19.000 Well, and you've taught us in the last episode that this does make a difference.

00:17:22.000 And they do hear your complaints, even if they kind of stonewall you, that it does make its way in.

00:17:27.000 And look, I mean, we need to declare all-out kind of corporate, I mean, warfare is the right word, metaphorical, and try to break the back of these companies.

00:17:38.000 I mean, so I just looked at secondvote.com here.

00:17:41.000 You look at financial services.

00:17:43.000 So you say, okay, let's say I use Citibank, 1.17 score, abysmal.

00:17:48.000 Well, then maybe it's PNC Bank.

00:17:49.000 It's 1.67, right?

00:17:51.000 Morgan Stanley, one.

00:17:52.000 It couldn't get worse, right?

00:17:54.000 It's basically zero.

00:17:55.000 Visa, 2.62.

00:17:57.000 There's basically not one financial services company in the country that is not totally woke.

00:18:03.000 I will say, though, American Express, all red, the worst that you could possibly get.

00:18:08.000 And so American Express, Bank of America is terrible.

00:18:10.000 MasterCard's 1.67.

00:18:13.000 But, you know, there's definitely a lot of U.S. Ameribank is 2.67.

00:18:18.000 So, but he's getting ahead.

00:18:21.000 See, he doesn't know about the score yourself thing, but we're getting ahead of ourselves here, Charlie.

00:18:27.000 I actually love where we went.

00:18:28.000 It was a great segue because the third company you guys want to talk about is Subway, which is actually an example of how people can rise up and cause a fundamental shift in marketing, branding, communications.

00:18:43.000 So tell us about Subway.

00:18:46.000 Well, Subway, of course, has gone woke.

00:18:49.000 And we are encouraging people because these are individual franchises.

00:18:54.000 Now, of course, they do have a major umbrella over top of them, but they are basically owned by your neighbors, by people in your community.

00:19:03.000 And if you go in and tell them that you don't like what's going on with what happened with Rebino and her not honoring our country and our flag, then you will see that they will start telling the corporate that, hey, look, I'm having a problem.

00:19:20.000 This is affecting our own business.

00:19:22.000 This is affecting my bottom line.

00:19:23.000 And many of these small owners, they're good Americans.

00:19:27.000 They're good, patriotic Americans.

00:19:29.000 They probably don't really agree with what's happening at the mother company anyway.

00:19:34.000 So allowing your voice to be that way is important.

00:19:37.000 So I just want to make sure our audience is clear on this.

00:19:40.000 This is about TV ads featuring the woke soccer player from the U.S. women's national team, Megan Rapineau, right?

00:19:48.000 She was featured in their TV ads.

00:19:50.000 And now the Subway franchisees are reporting that they're fed up with it and they want to discontinue the ad campaign, correct?

00:19:57.000 That's correct.

00:19:58.000 Yes, and we need to support these franchisees.

00:20:02.000 We need to do whatever we can do to support them, but also leave a message with your local franchisee owner when you go to Subway and ask them to join the effort with other franchisee owners to push back on corporate.

00:20:17.000 So at the recording of this interview, the ad campaign has not been discontinued, but a larger and larger number of these franchisees are starting to rise up and voice their concern.

00:20:27.000 Is that right?

00:20:28.000 Absolutely.

00:20:29.000 It's been a challenge to deal with franchised corporations because as Diane mentioned, a lot of times your franchise owners locally are conservative.

00:20:29.000 Yes.

00:20:39.000 They're not in alignment with what corporate is doing.

00:20:42.000 But it's wonderful to see franchisees beginning to speak up.

00:20:46.000 And unfortunately, Subway doesn't have, we link into a lot of corporate headquarters, so you can communicate directly with corporate headquarters.

00:20:55.000 But Subway is structured in a way that they make that more difficult.

00:20:58.000 So we need to help support the franchisees however we can and encourage other franchise owners to join the ones that are already pushing back to corporate.

00:21:10.000 Very good.

00:21:10.000 All right.

00:21:11.000 So let's now get to Ben and Jerry's.

00:21:14.000 Yeah, it's your favorite company, right?

00:21:16.000 Yeah, they are awful. 0.99

00:21:18.000 They are terrible.

00:21:19.000 What is the Ben and Jerry's score at second vote?

00:21:21.000 Zero?

00:21:21.000 I could just imagine.

00:21:23.000 Ben and they are flat one.

00:21:26.000 I don't even know if they're on second vote.

00:21:27.000 Yeah, they don't deserve to be. 0.97

00:21:28.000 They're terrible.

00:21:29.000 Are they a flat one?

00:21:30.000 Anyways.

00:21:31.000 Yes.

00:21:32.000 They are bad.

00:21:33.000 They are, you know, if we could, maybe we do need to come up with some sort of mark or something, cherry on it or something.

00:21:39.000 I don't know.

00:21:42.000 They are terrible.

00:21:44.000 A raspberry.

00:21:44.000 That's what we need.

00:21:46.000 For the life of me, I don't understand why these communists are like, you know, involved in business.

00:21:51.000 You know, you should just do like a co-op or something.

00:21:55.000 Yeah.

00:21:55.000 Okay.

00:21:56.000 I don't want to cut you.

00:21:58.000 And they're a subsidiary of Unilever, which, of course, also scores badly, but not a flat one.

00:22:04.000 But Unilever purchased them some years ago.

00:22:07.000 And it's really Unilever ought to be also contacted.

00:22:11.000 And you can contact Unilever and Ben and Jerry's.

00:22:14.000 I sent a message to Ben and Jerry's last week and we, or another message, but this is anti-Semitism.

00:22:22.000 This is a story of anti-Semitism where they are advocating this boycott of Israel.

00:22:29.000 And this is a religious liberty issue.

00:22:32.000 This is a First Amendment issue.

00:22:34.000 And we need to have people speak out strongly.

00:22:37.000 And again, we have Ben and Jerry franchisees that don't like this.

00:22:41.000 They don't want to see this happen.

00:22:42.000 And certainly corporate Unilever should not want to see this happen either.

00:22:46.000 So we can communicate to Ben and Jerry's.

00:22:49.000 We can communicate to Unilever.

00:22:51.000 And we can also help, again, support these franchisees that are pushing back.

00:22:55.000 Interesting that that's kind of being exposed here is that this is a way to affect these larger companies is to really target the, as you said, Congresswoman, that this is, these are our neighbors.

00:23:07.000 These are normal people.

00:23:08.000 This is not some, you know, faceless, large corporate villain.

00:23:14.000 These are our neighbors that own these franchises.

00:23:17.000 Ben and Jerry is a franchised company all across the country, normal people.

00:23:21.000 And They want to overturn this decision by Ben and Jerry's to stop their so they stopped selling ice cream in the West Bank.

00:23:30.000 I don't know if we stated that.

00:23:31.000 I just want to make sure that that's clear to everybody listening.

00:23:33.000 So they just Ben and Jerry's decided to stop selling ice cream in the West Bank, and now franchisees are again rising up, which is which is a vulnerability in these large companies.

00:23:43.000 That's right.

00:23:43.000 Yeah.

00:23:44.000 Well, corporate is hurting their local reputation.

00:23:47.000 It's hurting their local business.

00:23:51.000 You know, when you become a franchisee, you typically have little voice in what corporate does.

00:23:56.000 But this has hurt McDonald's franchises as well.

00:23:59.000 I mean, franchisees, because we score McDonald's very poorly.

00:24:02.000 And but we know personally McDonald's owners that are very conservative and the corporate behavior doesn't reflect who they are.

00:24:11.000 So I think it's interesting.

00:24:12.000 The franchise-corporate relationship maybe needs to be re-examined in terms of what this relationship really means.

00:24:19.000 That's outside of my purview, but I think the franchisees need to look at it.

00:24:23.000 Well, they need to start combining forces and really, you know, I don't want to say unionize here.

00:24:29.000 I'm just saying they need to start, they need to gather each other mostly.

00:24:34.000 Exactly.

00:24:35.000 Yeah.

00:24:35.000 So let's go to Delta Airlines, which is the one that's in the news right now, where Delta Airlines is saying that they're going to basically fine employees $200 a month if they don't take the highly questionable Chinese coronavirus vaccine, which is most of their black workers, by the way.

00:24:51.000 It will be a tax on black workers. 0.99

00:24:55.000 We're not getting, I'm not getting vaccinated. 0.88

00:24:57.000 My wife and I are not getting vaccinated.

00:24:58.000 If I've read this correctly, both of you have not been vaccinated.

00:25:02.000 Walk us through this.

00:25:05.000 Charlie, this is the craziest thing I have ever seen.

00:25:07.000 And I've been a nurse for over 50 years and always understood immunizations.

00:25:11.000 So someone has the virus and they have developed a natural immunity to it.

00:25:17.000 And I have the virus, and every six weeks I give blood to the American Red Cross and I get my report back that says I have antibodies, and yet I can't be considered safe.

00:25:25.000 When did medicine ever get to this place where because I have natural immunity, it's not good enough?

00:25:31.000 I've got to go and get a Pfizer or whichever one of the other immunizations, which, by the way, we know is less than 50% reliable at this point in time.

00:25:40.000 Science is just being forgotten here.

00:25:42.000 And we ask questions, Dave and I, both having been in medicine for so many years, and can't get a good, solid answer about why things are the way they are.

00:25:51.000 So you've got to question: what is going here, going on here?

00:25:55.000 What is happening where medicine that we have known for at least all of our careers is not really medicine?

00:26:01.000 There's something behind this that is very suspicious.

00:26:05.000 Well, it is very difficult to discern.

00:26:07.000 Natural immunity is better than vaccinations.

00:26:13.000 And we're seeing now this need for booster shots, which does also testify to the fact these vaccination products are not as effective.

00:26:23.000 Well, Dr. Black, now I just want to establish your credibility for our audience here.

00:26:28.000 You are not a doctor in the same way that Dr. Jill Biden is a doctor.

00:26:32.000 You are an actual medical doctor.

00:26:36.000 Am I right?

00:26:37.000 I mean, we were talking before, just before we started the interview, and your resume is impressive.

00:26:43.000 Well, yeah, my appointments are in immunology, bacteriology, pathology, pharmacology, and I'm a toxicologist by specific training, a clinical and forensic toxicologist.

00:26:55.000 And there is so much of what's transpired here over the last 18 months, two years, that is very puzzling.

00:27:02.000 It's, you know, they keep saying they're following the science, but I'm unaware of any science that says that a mask will stop a viral infection.

00:27:12.000 I'm not aware of that science.

00:27:14.000 I'm waiting to see a report that says that masks will stop the virus.

00:27:19.000 We do know it captures bacteria on the mask and then it becomes a hazardous waste product.

00:27:24.000 And then they're being carried into restaurants, they're being dropped in parking lots.

00:27:28.000 You know, the hospital, you discard, you don't discard your mask in a regular trash, you put it aside.

00:27:33.000 But here's something else.

00:27:35.000 As a toxicologist, I know a lot of stuff that you may not want to know, but I can share it with you anyway.

00:27:40.000 A smoker, somebody who smokes, costs the company directly $6,000 a year.

00:27:47.000 Now, what I would ask of Delta is: are you charging your employees who smoke $6,000 a year to work for you?

00:27:55.000 Because we've got great data that shows what a smoker costs to you.

00:27:59.000 So now, if you're saying that these unvaccinated people are such a risk to your company and to the cost of your company, where else are you applying that reason and logic? 0.99

00:28:09.000 That seems to me a simple, in fact, $200 a month for their employees is certainly never going to cover the alleged $50,000 cost per hospital visit.

00:28:20.000 I'd like to see somebody ought to look at statistics on that.

00:28:24.000 Well, same with obesity and same with a lot of other comorbidities that, you know, they're not allowed to call out and make much noise about.

00:28:34.000 But we call this on this show, and Charlie actually to his credit coin this medical, medical apartheid.

00:28:40.000 Yes.

00:28:41.000 It's the separation of the people. 0.53

00:28:42.000 We said that on Fox News back in early July, and we were destroyed for that.

00:28:47.000 A lot of articles were.

00:28:49.000 And it turns out we were exactly right.

00:28:50.000 100%.

00:28:51.000 And now, and now, because there's the racial element that has been inserted into this debate regarding disparities in different races and their vaccination rates, I mean, I think there's a, I think there's, this is a great way probably to use Second Vote is to use it to communicate to Delta and call out that they're targeting their black employees.

00:29:14.000 They're targeting the Hispanics as well have lower rates of vaccination.

00:29:21.000 That would be a way to use this to use Second Vote. 0.99

00:29:25.000 Am I right?

00:29:27.000 Well, we absolutely can.

00:29:29.000 And we can because this is a First Amendment issue, too.

00:29:32.000 This is, you know, we have alleged rights that are being violated.

00:29:38.000 It is, you know, it used to be your health care was decided between you and your physician.

00:29:44.000 Now we've got politicians and everybody who sees you in a store and people who don't know your medical condition at all, who, if for some reason, you know, you're not wearing your mask or they know you're not vaccinated, now you're an outcast.

00:29:59.000 This is just another means to separate us.

00:30:01.000 This is another means to create hatred.

00:30:04.000 Everything we've discussed so far, the Bank of America, all of these stories, at the bottom line of a lot of this is what it does is it creates hatred for others and it divides us.

00:30:18.000 And there's just a lot of that going on that is at the core because this division and putting this into tribes is going to harm this country maybe irreparably.

00:30:30.000 But here's another thing you always need to remember is those of us in the profession like to say, you know, half of all doctors graduated from medical school in the bottom half of their class.

00:30:42.000 You know, we often take, oh, they're a doctor, they know everything.

00:30:46.000 Well, I spent a career working with medical doctors.

00:30:48.000 I can tell you they don't know everything, but boy, they sure like to oftentimes represent they do.

00:30:54.000 But I think both of us are willing to see the actual studies and to be shown by the studies exactly what the real answer is.

00:31:04.000 And unfortunately, we're not getting that information.

00:31:07.000 We're not seeing studies that prove what it is that they're saying.

00:31:10.000 And you've got a question, you know, why is it that medicine that we understood for all these past years is just being thrown out the window?

00:31:18.000 So, I want to see the real documentation of the studies to show me that somebody who has pure antibodies that they've developed because they had the virus is not as protected as somebody who took an immunization and only gives them 44% to 50% of protection.

00:31:35.000 There's something that just doesn't quite match here.

00:31:38.000 So, give me the science.

00:31:40.000 Well, another real doctor just came on the show with Charlie, Dr. Rand Paul.

00:31:44.000 Oh, yeah.

00:31:45.000 And he put the number, the age, he said, listen, over 65, then there's, I think, there's a lot of reason why you might get the vaccine.

00:31:53.000 Under 65, that might be the dividing line.

00:31:55.000 And that's Dr. Rand Paul's observation.

00:31:58.000 Other people might agree or disagree.

00:32:00.000 But to your earlier point, go ahead.

00:32:03.000 Yes, I agree.

00:32:06.000 You know, we are vaccinating children now with a new kind of vaccine, this messenger RNA product.

00:32:15.000 And here, I looked up the numbers just the other day, and there are fewer than 400 children under the age of 18 that have allegedly died as a result of COVID.

00:32:30.000 But we're vaccinating tens of millions of children for a remarkably small percentage of harm.

00:32:36.000 And that is a just disproportionate.

00:32:40.000 That isn't the practice of medicine as I've known it.

00:32:45.000 I don't think you can make the argument that there's been such harm to that population that it justifies using a product that is still quite new.

00:32:54.000 You know, these products did not follow the normal pathway of approval.

00:32:59.000 And so it just, a lot of this is just not the medicine that we've experienced or I've experienced in my career.

00:33:07.000 So I just have one more question on this.

00:33:09.000 So you guys are obviously really passionate about this.

00:33:12.000 How are you incorporating this mandate madness that we're seeing in our culture?

00:33:16.000 How are you incorporating that into the way you score companies?

00:33:21.000 Well, again, these are, I think we can argue that these are First Amendment-related issues because people have lost their right to speak.

00:33:34.000 We have we're being separated out without any concern that we have the right to differ.

00:33:43.000 So we have a number of these different aspects of our society that evolved here very recently that I think we can put into our First Amendment scoring system as we continue to move forward.

00:33:57.000 I think that's important for folks listening that they know they can start finding out if companies are mandating craziness through the website.

00:34:04.000 So that's perfect.

00:34:06.000 If we accept this, what else do we accept that next they mandate us to do that doesn't show scientific information to say that it is for the best interest of the entire population?

00:34:17.000 And this is what worries me about this: this is just the beginning.

00:34:21.000 If we don't speak up and we don't fight back on this, what else will they mandate us to do to say we had the right to do it with COVID?

00:34:27.000 Now we have the right to do it for this, because this is for the best of society.

00:34:31.000 How do we define the best for society?

00:34:34.000 So obviously, as a nurse and someone who has a PhD in medicine, none of us want to see people sick and we certainly don't want to see them die.

00:34:43.000 But let's get the science right and let's stop using the politics and political push to make this happen.

00:34:51.000 Yeah, I'm afraid that, you know, you served in Congress.

00:34:53.000 Most Republicans are totally gutless wonders and they're betraying their voters.

00:34:57.000 They're not speaking out on this at all and said you have Republicans that are speaking from the House floor to go get all their constituents vaccinated by force.

00:35:05.000 So yeah, we're losing this fight because we don't have an opposition party in this country, unfortunately.

00:35:11.000 I mean, for example, you know, I'm not vaccinated.

00:35:14.000 I can't go to a neither are you.

00:35:15.000 You can't go to restaurants in New York or Los Angeles.

00:35:18.000 And the Republican Party seems okay with that.

00:35:20.000 In fact, they seem like they're warmly embracing the creation of South Africa.

00:35:25.000 So, yeah, I agree.

00:35:26.000 We need to fight back against it.

00:35:27.000 And second vote's an important way to do it.

00:35:29.000 But if we're honest with ourselves, we're in this place because we don't have a party that represents half the country.

00:35:36.000 So, other parts, other parts you want to get to?

00:35:40.000 Yeah, there's two.

00:35:41.000 We're running short on time here, but there's two other really important things that we have here.

00:35:46.000 There's the score yourself tool on Second Vote, which I took it this morning.

00:35:52.000 And I just, I want Charlie always likes to make fun of my brands and my sports teams that I support.

00:35:57.000 So I scored a 2.44 out of five.

00:36:03.000 But so that, so that wasn't my best.

00:36:05.000 You're drive Toyota.

00:36:06.000 No, that's not why.

00:36:07.000 Apparently, it's because my phone was not good.

00:36:12.000 My streaming service was not good.

00:36:16.000 But to be fair, I didn't have, there wasn't my streaming service on the option.

00:36:20.000 And my seasonal outfit really brought me down, apparently.

00:36:25.000 And by the way, the gas station right around the corner from me, which is Shell, was a one, only scores one.

00:36:32.000 So that was pretty awful.

00:36:33.000 Anyways, so these things all dragged me down.

00:36:35.000 I had some, I had performed well with my Home Depot.

00:36:41.000 I use Home Depot.

00:36:42.000 I scored well with that.

00:36:42.000 And I go local.

00:36:44.000 I drink LaCroix.

00:36:45.000 That actually is that bad.

00:36:46.000 LaCroix scored well.

00:36:48.000 Well, not great, but it's definitely better than some of the other soda companies.

00:36:53.000 Anyways, this was a fantastic tool that you guys have on your website.

00:36:59.000 I thought it was really fascinating.

00:37:00.000 So basically, for the audience listening, they ask you a quiz.

00:37:04.000 You pick which company you use for different services, and they'll actually tell you how good or how bad that company is so you can adjust your spending habits.

00:37:12.000 How do people find this?

00:37:13.000 Like, how'd you guys come up with this?

00:37:14.000 This is great.

00:37:17.000 Yeah, it's right on our website.

00:37:19.000 And it's right on the, you can access it right through the front page.

00:37:23.000 And it's right there for you to go ahead and click it on, and you'll go right to the questionnaire, and it'll give you your answer right away.

00:37:34.000 And it's a fun tool.

00:37:36.000 And actually, I think you scored pretty well.

00:37:38.000 Well, thank you.

00:37:40.000 I was trying to be, I mean, honestly, I was trying to be very honest about how I actually shop because I wanted to know what I needed to improve on.

00:37:48.000 And, you know, that was very helpful.

00:37:50.000 And I think people get a lot out of that.

00:37:52.000 The last thing that we had that I want to make sure we cover, you mentioned it earlier, was these the difference between spending and investing.

00:38:00.000 You guys are working on the investing part because a lot of people, we've gotten a bunch of emails where people say, well, I've got these companies in my mutual funds.

00:38:07.000 Like, what am I supposed to do?

00:38:08.000 Like, this is so tied into the way, you know, my retirement and all of these things.

00:38:12.000 You guys are actually creating a tool for that as well.

00:38:15.000 We have a tool.

00:38:16.000 Well, we've actually created a family of funds and we have two exchange-traded funds that have traded since last November 19th.

00:38:26.000 They're on the Chicago Board of Exchange.

00:38:27.000 One is a life fund, L-Y-F-E, and the other fund is Aegis, E-G-I-S.

00:38:33.000 A LIFE fund, no company in that fund is funding abortion.

00:38:37.000 Under the Aegis fund, no company in that fund is funding radical groups that are advocating for an open border or sanctuary city or attacking law enforcement.

00:38:48.000 So those two funds have done very well.

00:38:52.000 Year to date, this year, they're outperforming the SP 500.

00:38:56.000 But there are about 50 companies in each fund.

00:38:59.000 We do update those quarterly.

00:39:01.000 We may eventually have to remove somebody if they drift to the left or move out of our scoring.

00:39:08.000 We have other products that we are putting together also that will be available to meet different investment needs.

00:39:15.000 So you can go to our website, Second Vote Funds or Second Vote Advisors, and it will describe what the funds are.

00:39:25.000 But we are structuring our funds real quickly so you understand it's in the life fund.

00:39:30.000 The company is good on the life issue, but they may be bad on one of our other five issues.

00:39:35.000 But now we own the shares of those companies.

00:39:37.000 We're going to go to their shareholder meetings and we're going to push back on their support for those other five issues or whichever issue they may be supporting.

00:39:47.000 But they are good on the life issue on the Aegis Fund.

00:39:50.000 They're EGIS.

00:39:52.000 They're good on the Sanctuary City border, open border issue.

00:39:57.000 But we'll go in and we'll push back on other leftist agendas.

00:40:03.000 They only understand my question.

00:40:04.000 I think the thing that we have to remember is that this is a slow walk.

00:40:07.000 It can't all happen at one time.

00:40:09.000 And we just need the numbers.

00:40:10.000 We need people who, for instance, are big pro-life to be a part of this of helping to invest their dollars in a fund where we can show that there are people out there who want funds that support life.

00:40:23.000 And the more that we have in there, the bigger the voice we have.

00:40:26.000 And as Dave says, you can then make a difference in the shareholder room.

00:40:31.000 And so please, people, go on and take a look at that and put your money, invest your money in places that are in congruency with your beliefs.

00:40:40.000 I totally agree.

00:40:41.000 We'll go to secondvote.com.

00:40:42.000 You could do 2ndvote.com or just type it in secondvote.com, promo code Charlie, $2 a month to be able to know where your money is going.

00:40:50.000 And thank you guys so much for joining.

00:40:52.000 Can't wait for our next conversation.

00:40:55.000 Charlie, thank you so much.

00:40:56.000 Thank you both.

00:40:57.000 Thank you.

00:40:57.000 Thank you guys.

00:40:58.000 See you soon.

00:40:58.000 Thank you guys.

00:41:01.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

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00:41:09.000 God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - August 28, 2021

Exposing 6 of America's Most Woke Corporations

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