The Charlie Kirk Show - Exposing an FBI Bombshell with Congressman Jim Jordan

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk Show, Jim Jordan joins us for some bombshell FBI news.

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00:01:22.000 What is NATO?

00:01:23.000 NATO is the North Atlantic treaty organization.

00:01:27.000 NATO was formed post-World War II, and it was formed with the idea of trying to hedge against the Soviet Union.

00:01:35.000 Now, there are some good reasons for that.

00:01:36.000 The Soviet Union was an evil empire in more ways than one. 0.94

00:01:41.000 Albeit, I don't think we're quite honest with some of our relationship with the Soviet Union.

00:01:48.000 We did partner with the Soviet Union to defeat the Nazis.

00:01:51.000 After that, there was this mad dash of who will control Europe.

00:01:55.000 And NATO was formed.

00:01:58.000 NATO has 30 member countries.

00:02:02.000 These countries are Albania, Belgium, Bulgaria, Canada, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Montenegro, the Netherlands, North Macedonia, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Turkey, which I never quite understood, United Kingdom, and the United States.

00:02:30.000 These are 30 independent member countries.

00:02:33.000 And there is what is called Article 6, Article 5 or Article 6 of NATO, which is the mutual defense clause of NATO, which is an attack on one, is an attack on all.

00:02:46.000 Now, when I talk to senators, not Senator Hawley, but several of them on and off camera, one of their arguments of why we must get involved in Ukraine is that we must prevent Vladimir Putin from being able to border a NATO country.

00:03:01.000 Of course, unfortunately, they have not really understood geography because there is a portion of Russian-controlled territory that already borders Poland called Kalingrad Oblast.

00:03:13.000 So that entire talking point means nothing.

00:03:17.000 And yet, today, or yesterday, I think it happened just momentarily, recently I should say, the United States Senate has approved of a vote 95 to 1, we just spoke to Hawley about this, expanding NATO, adding Sweden and Finland to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.

00:03:42.000 So NATO, in many ways, is a failed project.

00:03:45.000 Its purpose is no longer necessary.

00:03:48.000 NATO might have been helpful against the Soviet Union. 0.70

00:03:51.000 Russia is no longer the Soviet Union.

00:03:53.000 Is Vladimir Putin a thug? 0.93

00:03:55.000 Of course he is. 0.98

00:03:55.000 War criminal? 0.98

00:03:56.000 Sure.

00:03:57.000 Bad guy?

00:03:58.000 Absolutely.

00:03:59.000 Helpful against China? 0.99

00:04:00.000 You bet.

00:04:02.000 If we're honest with our relationship with Russia over the last 100 years, you cannot win a world war if you do not have help from the Russians.

00:04:12.000 If we're serious about hedging against the Chinese Communist Party threat in the 21st century, if we're serious about crushing the Belt and Road Initiative, we need Russia to be at best neutral or maybe on our side. 0.92

00:04:26.000 We've done the opposite.

00:04:28.000 What we have done is we have empowered the Chinese Communist Party to grow closer to Russia as we continue in this silly, nonsensical proxy war of which we've already sent $56 billion to Ukraine. 0.68

00:04:43.000 You know something that really bothers me that I can't get a good answer to?

00:04:47.000 Why is it that we are able to send money and arms every week or so to Ukraine without congressional authorization?

00:04:59.000 It seems as if we could just keep on releasing this money to Ukraine.

00:05:03.000 And I have asked lawmaker after lawmaker: what does success in Ukraine look like?

00:05:11.000 I do not want kind of an abstraction as an answer.

00:05:15.000 Well, we have to defeat Putin.

00:05:16.000 No, no, what does the latitude and longitude of victory look like?

00:05:22.000 Now, the true victims are, of course, the Ukrainian people. 1.00

00:05:26.000 Now, may I say in a rather sick and twisted and ironic way that if actually you wanted what was best for the Ukrainian people, you would try to actually end the war, not continue the war.

00:05:39.000 That more suffering continues to happen the more arms that we send there.

00:05:42.000 And we have no accounting whatsoever of where those weapons are going.

00:05:46.000 So the United States Senate, of a vote of 95 to 1, Senator Hawley being the only objector, have now decided to expand NATO.

00:05:55.000 This is done with zero understanding.

00:05:58.000 I'm sure some senators understand this, but zero understanding of how Russia views NATO and the expansion of NATO.

00:06:09.000 So if you actually wanted to weaken Vladimir Putin, you would be doing the opposite of what we're doing.

00:06:14.000 You know that the ruble is more, is a stronger currency than it has been in the last couple of years since the invasion.

00:06:20.000 The petrodollar is stronger than ever before.

00:06:23.000 Putin's popularity is higher than ever before.

00:06:26.000 And they have more resolve domestically in Russia than ever before.

00:06:29.000 We have strengthened Vladimir Putin by doing everything we've done in Ukraine.

00:06:34.000 And we were early warnings against this.

00:06:37.000 But you see, we were promised false promises.

00:06:41.000 We were promised, I should say, false actions by the American leadership class that if we get involved in Ukraine, we can easily deter Vladimir Putin.

00:06:52.000 Even though the eastern part of Ukraine, they want to be under Russian control.

00:06:58.000 They speak Russian, they're ethnically Russian, and they do not want to be tied to the Zelensky government.

00:07:04.000 So with $56 billion sent and spent on this, more than the combined GDP of North Dakota, what do we have to show for that?

00:07:14.000 How is that in the best interest of a nation that is suffering from drug addiction, a suicide epidemic, a porous southern border, double-digit inflation, cost of living crisis, wokeism in our military, and CRT in our schools?

00:07:28.000 How has that $56 billion benefited the homeland?

00:07:32.000 It hasn't.

00:07:33.000 In fact, it's benefited Vladimir Putin.

00:07:36.000 The way that now NATO expansion will be twisted for the Russian people is: see, look at the West invading us by adding more countries like Sweden and Finland.

00:07:50.000 Guess what?

00:07:51.000 You will now have more Russian support for conflicts like this. 0.57

00:07:56.000 This strengthens the hand of Vladimir Putin.

00:07:59.000 It makes you wonder, maybe that's exactly what the war industry in Washington, D.C. wants.

00:08:03.000 These proxy wars can be very profitable and very lucrative.

00:08:06.000 Not once do I hear from our politicians: hey, can we get to a place of peace or broker a settlement here?

00:08:13.000 Why is it that the lobby in Washington, D.C. isn't talking about peace talks, but nonstop, we're talking about the continuation of a very confusing, murky, non-defined conflict 5,000 miles away.

00:08:32.000 And so the United States Senate has decided to expand NATO.

00:08:35.000 This does not benefit the best interests of America.

00:08:37.000 Just so you understand, if now an errant missile goes from a military base outside of St. Petersburg and now lands in the country of Finland, you and your son or your daughter or your grandson, your granddaughter, because we now draft women, which is insane, might be drafted into a full-scale war against Russia.

00:08:59.000 Did your senator think that through before they voted for that?

00:09:02.000 And they say, well, this is here to deter Vladimir Putin.

00:09:05.000 It does the opposite.

00:09:06.000 It strengthens his hand.

00:09:08.000 You see, Vladimir Putin actually is a fan of this because now he gets to go back to his Russian nationalists and say, see, the West will not leave us alone.

00:09:18.000 The West is marching onward, as Lindsey Graham said.

00:09:21.000 Let's get that tape again, Connor, where Lindsey Graham said it's time to play offense. 0.99

00:09:25.000 We are going to Russia.

00:09:26.000 I want you to imagine if China or Russia started to gobble up a Russian NATO equivalent in our hemisphere, and all of a sudden Mexico decided to become a member state of, quote-unquote, the theoretical Russian NATO.

00:09:43.000 How do you think we would respond?

00:09:45.000 We would have a call to arms.

00:09:48.000 We would have people enlisting in the military.

00:09:51.000 Whomever the domestic leader would use that as a sign of, see, they're coming towards us.

00:09:56.000 Now we need to have more commitment to war. 0.89

00:10:00.000 Washington, D.C. does not have a heart for peace or to broker a settlement here.

00:10:05.000 It's almost as if they want to continue it.

00:10:06.000 Some people say, well, Charlie, the only way we could broker peace is to smash Vladimir Putin.

00:10:11.000 Then you have to be willing to have 400,000 men and women die in battle and deploy 3 million troops to push him back roughly 1,000 miles to the current border of Ukraine.

00:10:11.000 Okay.

00:10:21.000 Are you willing to do that?

00:10:25.000 If the answer is no, and it should be no, by the way, then this entire thing is a false construct brought to you by an abstraction-focused Republican Party that can't answer simple questions about Ukraine.

00:10:39.000 One senator voted no.

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00:11:39.000 So I want to talk about Kansas.

00:11:42.000 I have talked a little bit about this ballot issue in Kansas.

00:11:48.000 And so, for example, we got an email here of some people in Kansas.

00:11:54.000 Hey, Charlie, I'm McCanson, pro-life and Christian.

00:11:56.000 I voted in person and yes for the Value Them Both Amendment.

00:12:00.000 It was very confusing language on the ballot, but we do have many Christians and churches supporting choice.

00:12:06.000 It was heartbreaking, but nothing has changed as far as I could tell.

00:12:09.000 Basically, it seems the amendment was just for future protection laws.

00:12:12.000 It goes on to say this is big hit for us, but it's not the end.

00:12:14.000 Thanks for all that you do.

00:12:17.000 And so I have a couple takes on this.

00:12:19.000 Number one, I think it was very poorly worded.

00:12:22.000 I think that there was legitimate confusion.

00:12:26.000 But I have another take on this that I do want to build out here that you might feel free to disagree with.

00:12:34.000 I'm 100% pro-life.

00:12:38.000 However, I do think that there are more people in Republican circles that are not as pro-life as they might espouse publicly.

00:12:48.000 That's not to say that they're totally pro-choice, but I actually think that, and I think it goes both ways, by the way.

00:12:54.000 I think that there's some people that say they're 100% pro-choice that are actually more pro-life than not.

00:13:01.000 And this is only just from private conversations and from talks with people that some people start to get very, very nervous and they say, well, Charlie, what about this circumstance?

00:13:10.000 What about that circumstance?

00:13:11.000 It's done in private.

00:13:12.000 It's not done publicly.

00:13:14.000 And so that's not to say that it's a pro-choice political party or anything, but I do think we have to lean in and do a much better job of explaining what does it actually mean to be pro-life.

00:13:27.000 And so I think there was a combination of things here.

00:13:29.000 Very poorly worded ballot referendum.

00:13:34.000 Churches that did not do their job adequately based on people in Kansas.

00:13:39.000 But I think that there is a private and soon to be realized, whether or not I'm correct or not, let's just say a little bit of a hedge in some Republican circles that might not necessarily be on board for the pro-life cause as much as it might seem.

00:14:01.000 The Democrats, I think, are taking this as, hey, we now can win in the midterms.

00:14:06.000 Play Cut 51, A.B. Klomachar saying that we're in the mainstream, the people are with us.

00:14:11.000 That's what you saw in Kansas.

00:14:12.000 They're going to lean all in on the abortion issue in November.

00:14:16.000 Play Cut 51.

00:14:18.000 This isn't just rhetoric anymore and campaign ads.

00:14:21.000 We're moving this country forward.

00:14:23.000 And this isn't just something we did overnight.

00:14:25.000 It was hard work while getting tummeled by these extremists time and time again.

00:14:30.000 I love working across the aisle.

00:14:32.000 I have friends that are Republicans.

00:14:33.000 But as just pointed out, we are in the mainstream and the people are with us.

00:14:38.000 And that's what you saw in Kansas last night.

00:14:41.000 That's what you saw in Kansas.

00:14:44.000 Yeah, Amy Klobuchar loves working with Republicans as long as it's invading sovereign countries. 1.00

00:14:49.000 Because remember, she went with Lindsey Graham and John McCain to go threaten Putin and saying it's a time for offense.

00:14:55.000 But I would love your thoughts on this.

00:14:56.000 Freedom at CharlieKirk.com.

00:14:58.000 Disconnect from all the polling what you see on TV in your own personal conversations.

00:15:03.000 Do you think the conservative movement is as personally pro-life as it might lead on?

00:15:11.000 I know plenty of people that are pro-life with some limitations.

00:15:15.000 They'll say, okay, we can allow abortions up to six weeks or we can have these exceptions. 0.94

00:15:20.000 I'm curious for a couple reasons.

00:15:23.000 Not to say I think we are a pro-life nation.

00:15:26.000 I think we're a nation that deep down, a majority of people do value the life of the unborn.

00:15:32.000 But I think there is a tension here, though.

00:15:36.000 And I don't necessarily believe Kansas is the indicator here because this amendment was so poorly written, but it certainly is worthy of reflection of how pro-life is the conservative movement really.

00:15:50.000 A little bit, somewhat minorly, majorly.

00:15:54.000 And I think we have our work cut out for us.

00:15:56.000 Exactly, what does it mean to defend the unborn?

00:16:00.000 When does life actually begin?

00:16:02.000 I could tell you right now, we received at least 50 emails in the last 24 hours that said, Charlie, I'm somewhat pro-life, love your show, love what you do.

00:16:10.000 I'm a conservative, pro-MAGA, all that stuff.

00:16:13.000 But I think that abortion should be legal up till six weeks, or I believe it should be legal up to nine weeks, or whatever.

00:16:18.000 We're getting a lot of emails like that.

00:16:19.000 And then I connect the Kansas results, albeit cushioning that the ballot referendum was very poorly written, very confusing, and all of that.

00:16:28.000 But it does make you wonder.

00:16:30.000 And I think it works both ways.

00:16:31.000 I think there's a lot of people in Democrat circles that say they're for abortion all the way up to the end when in reality they know it's very wrong.

00:16:40.000 Wonder if there is actually people's beliefs are much more in the middle on this.

00:16:45.000 My belief is not in the middle, let's be very clear.

00:16:47.000 Life begins at conception, period.

00:16:51.000 We certainly have our work cut out for us to explain and motivate it.

00:16:54.000 I love your thoughts, though.

00:16:55.000 Freedom at CharlieKirk.com, because the Democrats think this is how they will be able to keep the U.S. Senate.

00:17:01.000 They think this issue is a gift to them.

00:17:05.000 We'll see if they're right.

00:17:08.000 Joining us now is one of the fighters in the U.S. House of Representatives.

00:17:11.000 And boy, one of the best arguments for us to take back the House is to make sure Jim Jordan is in a position of leadership.

00:17:18.000 Congressman Jordan, welcome back to the program.

00:17:20.000 Good to be with you, Charlie.

00:17:22.000 And thanks for all you're doing for the cause of freedom.

00:17:24.000 We appreciate it.

00:17:25.000 Thank you.

00:17:25.000 Well, you're fighting every single day.

00:17:27.000 So, Congressman, walk us through this new whistleblower.

00:17:31.000 It seems like there's a lot of whistleblowers right now at the FBI, and it's kind of hard to keep them all straight.

00:17:36.000 Walk us through the one that you're kind of focused on right now that reveals scandalous push by FBI to pad domestic terror data.

00:17:44.000 Please go ahead.

00:17:44.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:17:45.000 Well, your first point, there, we've had over a dozen Charlie FBI agents come to us as whistleblowers.

00:17:51.000 And think about it.

00:17:51.000 They're coming to us when we're in the minority where we can't subpoena documents.

00:17:54.000 They're just coming to us because it's so bad.

00:17:56.000 The political nature of that place now is so egregious that they're willing to come to us just so we can begin to tell their story and tell the truth to the American people.

00:18:05.000 And we had one come to us in the last few weeks who said that they are being pressured to label almost every case, to catalog or categorize almost every case as a domestic terrorism case, as it didn't domestic violence extremism, I think is the technical term they use.

00:18:22.000 And remember, they created this office within DOJ back at the start of this year.

00:18:26.000 They stood it up a few months ago, and now they're being pressured to do it.

00:18:29.000 And kind of the interesting thing about it is they said one of the key people who was doing the pressuring on the good rank and file agents is this guy named Timothy Teebald, who just happens to be the same guy who the other whistleblower, a different whistleblower who went to Senator Grassley, said was the individual who was responsible for suppressing evidence about the Hunter Biden story, suppressing evidence that would have disproved the whole disinformation campaign that we got from the left in the run-up to the 2020 presidential election.

00:18:57.000 So that's how political this place has become.

00:19:00.000 And it's why we're trying to tell the story.

00:19:01.000 And as you point out, hopefully, if we get in the majority, we can do a little more about it.

00:19:05.000 Yeah, so, but when asked, Christopher Ray was asked actually a really good question by Senator Tillis, of which Senator Tillis is a little bit in the doghouse on this program for multiple reasons.

00:19:13.000 He actually asked a really good question.

00:19:15.000 For example, he said, so who's been held accountable for Crossfire Hurricane?

00:19:19.000 And then Christopher Ray kind of goes in this meandering answer of like, well, they're in our internal disciplinary program.

00:19:25.000 I mean, does anyone ever get held accountable at this agency, Congressman?

00:19:30.000 Only if they're Republican, only if they're getting pressured, only if they're conservative, only if they're doing their job, it seems.

00:19:35.000 But no.

00:19:36.000 And I always go back to the, I'm always amazed.

00:19:40.000 Remember, when it was the Clinton email investigation, that was called the mid-year exam.

00:19:45.000 But when it was go after President Trump and his campaign, spy on his campaign, the name for the FBI gave that was Crossfire Hurricane.

00:19:53.000 You can just see them all flexing their muscles and going crazy on that.

00:19:56.000 So, yeah, it never seems to be the case where the so-called elites who are part of the system, part of the swamp, ever get held accountable.

00:20:04.000 It only seems to be when it happens to be someone who may be conservative or Republican.

00:20:09.000 I want to reinforce this point that you made, Congressman, and just expand on it.

00:20:12.000 I'm going to read from a Fox News article of your talking about it.

00:20:17.000 One whistleblower explained: because agents are not finding enough domestic violent extremism cases, they're encouraged and incentivized to reclassify cases as DVE cases, even though there is minimal circumstantial evidence to support the reclassification.

00:20:32.000 So, I have two takes on this.

00:20:34.000 First of all, we have a supply and demand problem with domestic violent extremism.

00:20:39.000 Is that right, Congressman?

00:20:41.000 There's so little of it that we have to create it out of thin air.

00:20:45.000 Am I processing that correctly?

00:20:48.000 No, and I like that it's sad that that word I think is appropriate, create, because at first I said they're juicing the numbers.

00:20:54.000 But then, when you look at what a colleague of mine, a good friend of mine, Dan Bishop, pointed out in a hearing a week ago where he went at the so-called Whitmer kidnapping plot, they found out that there were 12 undercover or FBI informants as part of that effort.

00:21:12.000 And he went through all these facts.

00:21:14.000 So, it almost seems like they're not just juicing the numbers.

00:21:16.000 Remember, in that trial of those individuals, no one was found guilty.

00:21:20.000 Two were hung jury, two were acquitted, two had pled guilty earlier to the kidnapping plot.

00:21:24.000 But when they did the trial, no one was found guilty.

00:21:26.000 They're going to retry a few of them.

00:21:28.000 So, but what was interesting is all the informants, all the FBI agents who were involved in that, and it almost seems like in some ways they're not only juicing the numbers, but they are, in fact, doing what you just described.

00:21:38.000 They're creating the numbers by having these informants go round up some people and persuade them to do something that they shouldn't do.

00:21:45.000 It's just unbelievable.

00:21:46.000 And so, what really bothers me about this whole thing, though, Congressman, is the smugness of which Christopher Wray responds.

00:21:53.000 If I'm not mistaken, this is the first time he's testified in over a year.

00:21:58.000 Republicans take back the House.

00:21:59.000 I mean, how do we get these guys, at least from an attitude standpoint, like, no, no, you work for us, Christopher Wright?

00:22:04.000 You don't have some sort of regime control over the legislative branch.

00:22:09.000 These are co-equal separation of powers.

00:22:11.000 I watch a little bit of it, and just from an attitude standpoint, I know this is rather subjective, but I think people would agree.

00:22:16.000 He just kind of just didn't care.

00:22:18.000 Do you get that sense sometimes?

00:22:20.000 Well, there's, I think there's just in a general sense, there's this disdain that the left that certain people have for conservatives and for us, you know, just regular people who live in the heartland that live across the country.

00:22:34.000 I mean, I never forget when Pete Buttigieg a few months ago said, Well, if you don't like $4 gas, go buy an electric vehicle.

00:22:39.000 Well, easy for you to say, but where I'm from, people drive pickup trucks and they work in agriculture and manufacturing and construction and landscaping and all kinds of things.

00:22:47.000 So there's just this general disdain.

00:22:50.000 And I think that's what you're pointing to as well with the director.

00:22:53.000 So, Congressman, I'm going to shift gears for a second here.

00:22:56.000 The FBI thing is super important.

00:22:57.000 I want to talk about the Mansion-Schumer spending deal.

00:23:00.000 Can you explain what exactly that all entails?

00:23:03.000 It's very confusing.

00:23:04.000 There's all these massive spending bills happening.

00:23:06.000 What is this Mansion-Schumer spending bill consists of precisely?

00:23:11.000 And what are the chances of its passing?

00:23:13.000 Well, I mean, well, come on, Charlie.

00:23:15.000 You know, when you raise taxes, that's going to help the economy.

00:23:17.000 When you increase spending dramatically, three-quarters of a trillion, that's going to help with inflation.

00:23:21.000 I mean, the name, the Inflation Reduction Act, is so ridiculous.

00:23:28.000 It's almost like they treat us like we have no common sense.

00:23:32.000 But, you know, you and I know the American people.

00:23:34.000 The American people get it.

00:23:35.000 They know that this massive spending, close to three-quarters of a trillion dollars over the next several years, this massive spending and the fact that it's going to raise people's taxes is only going to exacerbate the 41-year high inflation rate and the energy cost and everything else that families are dealing with now.

00:23:52.000 Looks like there's also a slowdown in job creation, which is interesting because employers have told me now forever that it's tough to find people to work, but now that may be slowing a little bit as well.

00:24:01.000 I saw some numbers today.

00:24:03.000 So this bill is not going to help it.

00:24:05.000 Let's hope.

00:24:06.000 I've been traveling today, so I don't know if Senator Sinema has made any announcement, but let's hope it doesn't pass.

00:24:12.000 So, Congressman, it seems as if, and I'd love your take on this, that Democrats are adjusting slightly.

00:24:18.000 They're still as radical as ever, but I believe that they probably had an early July strategy urgent meeting with some of their more kind of slick consultants.

00:24:28.000 They're talking a little bit differently.

00:24:30.000 They're starting to use language like, oh, we're now going to reduce inflation.

00:24:33.000 And, you know, I'm not, of course, I think they're transparently dishonest, but I think that in the polls show this, the generic is tightening slightly.

00:24:42.000 Do you see that from Democrats?

00:24:44.000 And do you think that we as Republicans need to maybe get out of a little bit of a complacent posture?

00:24:49.000 What's your take on that?

00:24:50.000 Well, we definitely shouldn't get complacent.

00:24:52.000 You know, you were an athlete.

00:24:54.000 My background in sports is like you never want to be overconfident.

00:24:57.000 You want to campaign confidently, but you never want to be overconfident.

00:24:57.000 You want to be confident.

00:25:00.000 You certainly don't want to be complacent.

00:25:01.000 So we've got to go take our message to the American people.

00:25:04.000 They can try to change, but the left that controls their party is not going to let them.

00:25:07.000 Remember, it was just a few months ago in a hearing where Roe Conna, a Democrat colleague of mine, when you had the oil and gas executives from all the major companies, he went down the line and said, Will you pledge today to decrease production?

00:25:17.000 Why won't you promise today that you'll decrease production?

00:25:19.000 I mean, and I looked at him, I said, What do you want?

00:25:20.000 $8 gas?

00:25:21.000 And the truth is they do.

00:25:22.000 So I don't think they can really change.

00:25:24.000 They can try to put a different veneer and different cover on it.

00:25:28.000 And you're seeing them do that, frankly, with the president.

00:25:30.000 I mean, the New York Times ran a piece a couple of weeks ago that said, you know, should Joe Biden run again?

00:25:35.000 When the New York Times is asking that question, that tells you how bad the Democrats are doing.

00:25:40.000 So they might try to change how they message, but they are hard left.

00:25:44.000 They believe in this crazy climate change and driving up the cost of energy and gas.

00:25:48.000 They hate the internal combustion engine.

00:25:51.000 They're intentionally doing what they're doing to the border.

00:25:53.000 So I don't think they can change those things.

00:25:55.000 They're going to try to have a little slightly different message.

00:25:58.000 But again, you and I know the American people are smart and the American people get it.

00:26:02.000 And I think they're going to show up in a big way on November 8th.

00:26:04.000 So we have, we're up against huge money.

00:26:06.000 There's two schools of thought here, Congressman, that some people think that the Republican establishment only wants to win the majority by a couple seats because it empowers them.

00:26:16.000 Other people say it's the opposite, that the bigger the margin actually empowers the Republican establishment.

00:26:21.000 Do you see any evidence of that?

00:26:23.000 Or is it just we need to keep our head down and win as many races as possible?

00:26:27.000 Yeah, they're definitely the latter.

00:26:28.000 Go win the races because I'll tell you what, the most moderate Republican is much better than the hard left that control the Democrat Party.

00:26:35.000 And the differences that you and I may have with some of our Republican colleagues, and we do, and we've had some fights over the years, and I understand that.

00:26:41.000 But the difference between the Freedom Caucus and someone who's in the Republican conference who's not in the Freedom Caucus is minor compared to where any Republican is at and where the left that now controls the Democrat Party that's given us the open border, the record crime, the record inflation, the 41-year high inflation and $5 gas.

00:27:02.000 And not to mention what the radical left is doing to your First Amendment liberties, your Second Amendment liberties, your Fourth Amendment due process rights, and every other liberty we enjoy in this country.

00:27:11.000 That's why it's important you elect as many Republicans as possible.

00:27:14.000 Final question here, Congressman.

00:27:15.000 What races specifically are you going to be spending your time on?

00:27:17.000 What candidates are exciting you?

00:27:18.000 What districts do you think we have to focus on?

00:27:21.000 We're like 90 days out and 60 days out from voting.

00:27:25.000 What are you focusing on?

00:27:26.000 Yeah.

00:27:26.000 Well, no, we got great, great conservative Republican candidates running the House races, but I'm also trying to help.

00:27:31.000 I want to do everything we can to help JD Vance win Ohio.

00:27:34.000 Keep that Senate seat in Republican hands.

00:27:35.000 And Ron Johnson, who's done such a great job in the United States Senate.

00:27:39.000 Yes.

00:27:39.000 That is such an important raise.

00:27:41.000 And so I'm going to try to get up and help Ron as well because he's a great senator.

00:27:45.000 Ron Johnson, Wisconsin is a fabulous senator.

00:27:47.000 Congressman, thanks for your leadership.

00:27:48.000 Please keep the pressure on the FBI.

00:27:50.000 Not enough people are focusing on it.

00:27:52.000 It's one of the great stories, most tragic stories happening, but with your leadership, we'll get to the bottom of it.

00:27:56.000 Thank you, Congressman, for your time.

00:27:57.000 Thank you.

00:27:58.000 Thank you, Judge.

00:27:58.000 You bet.

00:28:01.000 Rebecca has emailed us and said, I'm a lifelong Kansan.

00:28:05.000 Let me tell you across the board, misleading advertising to vote against the abortion bill was 10 to 1 more for it than against it.

00:28:12.000 The money was huge to fight this.

00:28:14.000 The yard signs here in the capital city of Topeka were far more to vote, for far more to vote yes.

00:28:21.000 And yet TV advertising was chocked full of lies.

00:28:23.000 All of our local news was filled with a lien to vote no.

00:28:27.000 Our country is so comfortable to live in fear.

00:28:28.000 This election result isn't a surprise.

00:28:30.000 I'm absolutely heartbroken that Kansas has lost its way.

00:28:35.000 God bless us all.

00:28:37.000 So it's interesting.

00:28:38.000 We're getting a lot of emails of people that are saying that freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:28:47.000 So this one person says, Am I a fascist?

00:28:49.000 Do you want to impose your beliefs on others?

00:28:51.000 Well, no, I believe that every human being should be protected and their life actually has a moral obligation, the natural rights, to be protected by the state.

00:28:59.000 So no, I'm not a fascist, but I do know plenty of leftists that are.

00:29:05.000 We're getting a lot of emails, though, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:29:07.000 Charlie, I'm pro-life, but I think that abortion is okay up to six weeks or up to eight weeks. 0.55

00:29:12.000 That certainly does prove some of my suspicion on this.

00:29:15.000 Sally listens to us from Florida, and she says people on the right are multifaceted.

00:29:20.000 If the extreme end of the Republican Party does not realize that soon, they're going to lose the majority of their party.

00:29:24.000 Believe it or not, not everyone in the Republican Party is religious, straight, and white.

00:29:30.000 Whatever stereotype the left and very religious would like to paint us, I've been a Republican my whole life, and I'm accepting of other people's differences.

00:29:35.000 All or nothing.

00:29:36.000 It's not my belief.

00:29:37.000 I don't know how applicable that is to the abortion topic, but I do agree.

00:29:40.000 The Republican Party actually is becoming more diverse, more multiracial.

00:29:43.000 The Democrat Party is becoming incredibly upper-middle-class and white.

00:29:49.000 Go to this email here.

00:29:51.000 Getting a lot of emails on this, but we have about a couple hundred emails coming in every minute on this.

00:29:57.000 And the consensus is that, Charlie, I'm pro-life, but with certain exceptions.

00:30:01.000 And so that makes you think on the Kansas vote, what would the line be drawn there?

00:30:08.000 Charlie, I'm pro-life.

00:30:09.000 I believe that life begins at conception.

00:30:11.000 The soul is born.

00:30:13.000 All hearts should be protected, and it could be done through adoption.

00:30:16.000 100% pro-life all the way through.

00:30:20.000 So, look, the reason I'm talking about this is: yes, it was very poorly worded in Kansas.

00:30:26.000 There was a ton of money spent on this.

00:30:30.000 However, I think that there is just a general question, though, in the conservative movement of where is the line.

00:30:36.000 I've been very clear about what my line is on this program.

00:30:40.000 And the emails are reflecting this, by the way.

00:30:42.000 I mean, you guys listening right now are the base of the base.

00:30:45.000 And even most of you are not 100% pro-life.

00:30:49.000 That's fine.

00:30:49.000 I'm not accusing you of anything.

00:30:50.000 We have reasonable disagreements.

00:30:52.000 It's just interesting how instructive that might be in Kansas.

00:30:56.000 Okay, let's get to some other sound here.

00:30:59.000 Freedom at CharlieKirk.com.

00:31:01.000 I want to get to this one here, Play Cut 50, Amy Klobuchar, and what she thinks the Kansas result tells us, Play Cut 50.

00:31:10.000 You're not going to tell women, you're not going to tell a little 10-year-old girl who got raped that she somehow's got to find her way to another state to get health care.

00:31:20.000 And then when she goes there, that attorney general starts investigating the doctor who gave her her health care.

00:31:26.000 This is off-the-charts extreme.

00:31:29.000 And this is why we won big time in Kansas.

00:31:32.000 And yeah, you guys are right.

00:31:34.000 Those extreme candidates won in a number of places, not all places, but they won with those voters that are the Trump mega voters.

00:31:43.000 That's who they won with.

00:31:45.000 And now we go to the general election.

00:31:47.000 And guess what just happened in Kansas?

00:31:49.000 When it's a general election, when independents are voting, when moderate Republicans are turning out, they're going to choose the mainstream.

00:31:57.000 They're going to want a party that actually is willing to take on the pharmaceutical companies and stand with AARP and reduce drug prices.

00:32:04.000 They're going to stand with a party that's willing to take on weapons of war in the hands of 18-year-olds.

00:32:11.000 They're going to stand with a party that's willing to say to women, you don't have to go across the country just to get your reproductive health care. 1.00

00:32:19.000 And they're going to stand with a party that is willing to acknowledge that our forests are burning across the country and that we need to finally do something about it and stand up and invest in clean energy.

00:32:30.000 That's the Democrats' message.

00:32:32.000 And I got to be honest, they're far more on message than they have been in quite some time.

00:32:35.000 Klobuchar has always been a little bit more of a moderate.

00:32:37.000 That's going to be a tougher message for Republicans and conservatives to counter message. 0.99

00:32:40.000 Obviously, it's all garbage and nonsense. 0.98

00:32:42.000 She says, yeah, we're going to stand up to the pharmaceutical companies. 1.00

00:32:44.000 Oh, really?

00:32:44.000 You'll stand up to the pharmaceutical companies by mandating an experimental gene therapy on the American military and kicking them out if they don't take it.

00:32:51.000 Is that what you mean by that?

00:32:52.000 Or giving a massive handout to Pfizer, AstraZeneca, and Moderna?

00:32:55.000 Give me a break, Amy Klobuchar.

00:32:56.000 Go back into a blizzard, snowwoman. 0.62

00:33:00.000 However, she is pinpointing something of how the Democrats are going to be messaging in November.

00:33:04.000 Let me be very clear.

00:33:05.000 I want to win in November.

00:33:06.000 I want to win huge.

00:33:08.000 But I'm not just going to keep on doing on this program like, hey, keep on doing the same thing.

00:33:12.000 Let's make sure we're charting our course correctly and navigating appropriately.

00:33:18.000 I personally don't believe we should waiver an inch on the life issue.

00:33:22.000 But the referendum in Kansas, I would chalk up a vast majority, 80 to 90% of it, because it was poorly written and because of out-of-state money.

00:33:31.000 But based on just the emails, I'm getting freedom at charliekirk.com, the conservative base has more nuance on the abortion issue, I think, than most people recognize or realize.

00:33:43.000 And that's interesting.

00:33:44.000 It's understandable.

00:33:46.000 And it's now coming to a forefront.

00:33:47.000 So those of us that are pro-life, we have to talk about it.

00:33:49.000 We have to be willing to engage on that issue and then hopefully persuade on it.

00:33:56.000 The Democrats know what they're doing, though.

00:33:58.000 The Democrats think this is a winning issue.

00:34:00.000 We better figure this out.

00:34:01.000 How are we going to message on it?

00:34:02.000 How are we going to talk about it?

00:34:06.000 It's incredibly important.

00:34:10.000 I believe that standing up for those that can't stand up for themselves is popular.

00:34:14.000 And even if it's not popular, it's still the right thing to do.

00:34:16.000 I couldn't care less about what's politically popular at times.

00:34:19.000 It's the right thing.

00:34:20.000 Thank you so much for listening, everybody.

00:34:22.000 Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:34:25.000 Thanks so much for listening.

00:34:26.000 God bless.

00:34:30.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

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