The Charlie Kirk Show - Exposing Critical Racism Tour—LIVE from the University of Michigan

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00:02:35.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:03:07.000 Critical race theory, or as we call it, critical racism theory.

00:03:10.000 It's impacted our life dramatically in the last year.

00:03:13.000 And this is something that can be called wokeism or diversity, equity, inclusion, or learning.

00:03:18.000 And those of you that are obviously at University of Michigan, you have to deal with this all the time and all of its different manifestations.

00:03:23.000 But it's amazing how few people actually understand this and talk about how it's an existential threat to the American way of life.

00:03:30.000 And we need to talk about how critical race theory, wokeism, whatever you want to call it, right?

00:03:35.000 It's a filler term, is a virus against America and civil and free society.

00:03:40.000 It doesn't have a 99.5% survivability rate.

00:03:44.000 Doesn't.

00:03:45.000 Now, I'm not saying it's worse than COVID because some media person can say, they're two totally different things.

00:03:50.000 This is not an infectious disease, but I'm using a metaphor intentionally by saying if we allow these ideas to go unchallenged, then everything that we have grown to know as justice and the American way of life gets immediately compromised.

00:04:03.000 And so, what is this?

00:04:04.000 What is this idea?

00:04:06.000 Well, I think we all know it in our uncertain way, but let's start with what we believe and why we believe it.

00:04:10.000 Super simple, not controversial.

00:04:11.000 By the way, tonight's not even going to be political.

00:04:13.000 I'm going to do everything I possibly can to not say Republican or Democrat, right?

00:04:17.000 We're just going to talk about ideas, what is true, and what is good and what is beautiful.

00:04:20.000 It's really simple.

00:04:21.000 Every human being has dignity.

00:04:23.000 I believe every human being is made in the image of God.

00:04:26.000 I believe that every single human being is worthy of the idea of the American view of human equality.

00:04:36.000 That is a fundamental American value.

00:04:39.000 And that doesn't mean that everyone has the same talents, obviously.

00:04:42.000 You know, some football coaches are better than others.

00:04:44.000 By the way, let me just say, I'm a big Jim Harbaugh fan.

00:04:46.000 I really am.

00:04:46.000 I always have been.

00:04:47.000 I don't know if you guys like him or not, but maybe not.

00:04:51.000 Yeah, it's the jury still out.

00:04:52.000 We'll see if he beats Ohio State, right?

00:04:53.000 Like, that's basically how it is.

00:04:55.000 Yeah, people start applauding.

00:04:57.000 Five and oh, it's a good start.

00:04:58.000 We'll see.

00:04:59.000 I always think he's very sincere, but some football coaches are better than others.

00:05:02.000 Human equality does not mean equal talents, and it definitely does not make equal outcomes.

00:05:06.000 It means that we're all the same sort of thing.

00:05:09.000 As Aristotle would say, human beings are the speaking beings.

00:05:12.000 We are the only type of being that can reason, that can make sense of the natural world through speech.

00:05:20.000 Now, that sort of being should not be categorized or characterized by things we cannot change.

00:05:29.000 So, this is basically the divide right now for those of us that are deciding to launch kind of a critique of critical race theory, what it is or what they say it is, and the people that are defending it, which is, do you believe society should be organized around things that people can change or things that people cannot change?

00:05:48.000 Usually, America would say, okay, we want to have a preference, at least in some way or capacity, around things that you can change.

00:05:55.000 How hard you work, how hard you study, whether or not you commit crimes, are you making good choices?

00:06:01.000 A bad way to organize society and a moral way to organize society is that's your skin color, therefore we're going to treat you a certain way. 1.00

00:06:09.000 Because you can't change that, and therefore, you are de-emphasizing human agency and choice.

00:06:15.000 And one of the reasons why America still remains the most exceptional nation on the planet, despite all of our shortcomings, especially in the last nine months, is that we never really cared about who your parents were.

00:06:27.000 We never really cared about where you came from.

00:06:29.000 And there's obvious exceptions.

00:06:31.000 I'm sure, you know, someone will come up and they say, Charlie Wright came from, that's all that mattered.

00:06:34.000 Okay, fine.

00:06:35.000 The point is that if you go to India, the second most populous country in the world, the caste system is everything. 0.98

00:06:40.000 Your parents are your future.

00:06:42.000 Your destiny is your bloodline.

00:06:44.000 Now, there might be some truth to that.

00:06:45.000 If you're LeBron James' kid in America, you're going to have a better future, okay?

00:06:49.000 Or at least materially.

00:06:50.000 But generally, we said, how do we design a society that puts a preference on you?

00:06:56.000 Your actions hold you accountable.

00:06:58.000 That's empowering.

00:07:00.000 It's not just empowering, it's the only moral way to build a free and civil society.

00:07:04.000 And so, but when all of a sudden you say, you know what?

00:07:07.000 We are now going to reorganize society based on things, no matter how hard you try, you cannot change.

00:07:13.000 And so, for example, when they're teaching white privilege at University of Michigan, I don't know if they are.

00:07:17.000 Are they teaching white privilege?

00:07:18.000 Are they wild guess?

00:07:21.000 Which is, we are now going to tell you that you have a certain sort of privilege based simply on the melanin content of your skin.

00:07:28.000 Now, some people say, Charlie, it's important that we have all these thought exercises and critical race theory is nothing more than a construct.

00:07:34.000 So, I have here six examples of since last summer, Floyd Apalooza, when we decided to destroy our entire country and burn it all down, of how our country has profoundly changed.

00:07:44.000 These are real policies.

00:07:46.000 This is not just like proclamations or some nut job going on television.

00:07:50.000 Pfizer, not exactly a fan, but Pfizer, a big company, said that it will fill leadership roles of their company with exclusively black and Hispanic people.

00:08:00.000 Like they want to, and so what does that do? 0.89

00:08:02.000 Well, it disenfranchises people that are not black and Hispanic.

00:08:05.000 So you can either prioritize diversity or you can prioritize competency and character.

00:08:11.000 I prefer competency and character, and I'm going to prove it all to you because deep down, everybody agrees, even the people that support critical race theory.

00:08:18.000 Oh, that's the third example.

00:08:19.000 You got to it.

00:08:19.000 Atlanta Public Schools, second example, is putting black children, black second graders, into one classroom and white second graders into another classroom.

00:08:29.000 Now, I remember growing up in America and saying segregation was evil.

00:08:33.000 We shouldn't segregate people based on skin color.

00:08:35.000 This is not some sort of theory is what I'm trying to tell you right now.

00:08:38.000 This is in practice.

00:08:40.000 This is policy.

00:08:41.000 And the kind of woke industrial complex, until it gets challenged from free and decent people, they are not going to stop.

00:08:49.000 Here's a third example, which is United Airlines pledges 50% of all their pilots are now going to be black or women.

00:08:57.000 I have nothing against black or women pilots. 1.00

00:08:59.000 But are they as competent as the other people?

00:09:02.000 Maybe they are.

00:09:03.000 But if you're hiring based solely on skin color, then all of a sudden you're saying, you know what, we care more about melanin content than competency.

00:09:10.000 When I have a pilot flying my plane, I couldn't care less about the color of their skin.

00:09:14.000 I want to make sure they can land the plane.

00:09:17.000 And every, even the person that, even someone who is, like, you take Patrice Cullers, whatever, or Ibermax Kendi or Robin DiAngelo or Tahani C. Coates, any one of the people that write these ridiculous pieces of literature. 0.97

00:09:31.000 I mean, you guys have to read that garbage. 0.95

00:09:33.000 Maybe you do. 1.00

00:09:34.000 Deep down, they don't want to have a pilot that is incompetent.

00:09:38.000 Like, yeah, it's all fun and games.

00:09:39.000 Like, who cares if the Department of Defense Secretary doesn't know what he's doing?

00:09:44.000 Like, who cares if 13 Marines get killed?

00:09:45.000 Like, okay, whatever.

00:09:46.000 But all of a sudden, if it's a pilot and you have to ride in that plane, it's like, wait, hold on a second.

00:09:51.000 No, no, no, no.

00:09:51.000 Has this pilot ever flown before?

00:09:52.000 Diversity is our strength.

00:09:53.000 Like, it doesn't matter.

00:09:55.000 Like, all the good, we're hiring based solely on skin color. 0.99

00:09:58.000 Of course, we know the absurdity of that, right?

00:10:00.000 Obviously, is that when you do things where the pressure is very high, where success, you literally need to land on a certain airstrip, like you're 50 feet to the left and 50 feet to the right, the margin of error is death.

00:10:11.000 Like if you go into a doctor's office and you're like, you know, I have this tumor, I need it removed, is the first thing you're going to be like, hey, I only want doctors of color to operate on me. 0.99

00:10:19.000 Like, really?

00:10:20.000 Like, that's, is that the new, and by the way, that's a new push by the American Medical Association saying that we need not competency to be valued, but skin color to be valued. 0.53

00:10:31.000 Now, any person here in this room that has grown up in the, you know, at least the semblance of a free society in America, this comes across you as absurd and insane.

00:10:38.000 Yet it's happening.

00:10:39.000 And it's being implemented as policy.

00:10:41.000 Number four, Western Washington University, which is kind of a radical place.

00:10:46.000 This is not the only school that's done this, by the way, has come out and they have said they have black-only dormitories now at Western Washington University.

00:10:54.000 So again, I think segregation is evil.

00:10:58.000 If you're defending this, then all of a sudden you want to have like a reinstitution of like American segregation based on skin color.

00:11:05.000 Not to mention Columbia University, maybe they have this at Michigan, maybe not, hope not.

00:11:09.000 They have graduation ceremonies based on skin color.

00:11:13.000 Black-only graduation ceremony at Columbia University.

00:11:16.000 Hispanic only graduation ceremony based on skin color.

00:11:19.000 Now, they don't have a white-only graduation ceremony because everyone would lose their mind, right?

00:11:23.000 That's racist.

00:11:24.000 Let me be very clear. 0.97

00:11:25.000 If you judge or categorize anyone based on skin color, you're a racist, period. 0.79

00:11:30.000 End of story.

00:11:37.000 The CDC has come out and said racism is a public health threat.

00:11:41.000 Now, mind you, I haven't heard the CDC give like a long speech on how obesity is a public health threat, or diabetes is a public health threat, or what you eat is a public health threat.

00:11:51.000 No, no, no. 0.88

00:11:51.000 But racism, now we're going to get into this because one of the advantages that the people that are pushing this garbage have is they never actually have to define their terms. 0.88

00:12:01.000 It's just racism. 0.98

00:12:01.000 Do you notice this? 0.98

00:12:02.000 You're saying it's like, okay, well, fine, sure.

00:12:04.000 And honestly, so many of us, because we mean well, we stop talking as soon as we get called a racist.

00:12:11.000 It's an incredibly powerful tool to stop all conversation.

00:12:15.000 It's almost, it puts people into paralysis.

00:12:18.000 It's like, well, anything but being called that.

00:12:20.000 Like, you could call me an adulterer.

00:12:22.000 You could call me a thief.

00:12:24.000 Do not call me a racist.

00:12:25.000 Whatever you do.

00:12:26.000 Because that kind of is now the new social currency to be able to destroy discussion and debate and dialogue.

00:12:32.000 And I always have to say this unnecessarily so, but it's just kind of repetition in case no one's ever heard me speak before.

00:12:38.000 Yes, there are real racists.

00:12:39.000 We have a supply and demand problem with racists in America.

00:12:42.000 We have such a low amount of them and such a high demand to find them that when you find one, they get on the front page of the New York Times.

00:12:48.000 It's like this incredible supply and demand problem.

00:12:51.000 But if you are a racist, I hope you find Jesus Christ and repent and ask for forgiveness and apologize to the people that you've wronged.

00:12:56.000 I mean, it goes without saying, right?

00:12:59.000 And but it's also to say that like the people that are instituting these things actually deep down harbor those types of resentments.

00:13:06.000 And then finally, Lori Lightfoot, to fight the public health crisis. 0.96

00:13:10.000 Wonderful.

00:13:10.000 She's terrific.

00:13:11.000 Yeah.

00:13:12.000 To fight the public health crisis of racism has allocated $10 million, whatever that money's going to go to.

00:13:18.000 And so I could go on.

00:13:19.000 I have many of these examples.

00:13:20.000 But the reason I have those six examples is that, you know, as we kind of go on this tour, what I don't want to hear is that, Charlie, this is just some sort of spirited debate, right?

00:13:30.000 We're just exposing young people to different ideas.

00:13:32.000 How many times have you heard this as like a counter?

00:13:34.000 Like, oh, we want to hear both sides of the story.

00:13:36.000 Like, no, this is public policy now.

00:13:38.000 Like, these are things that now impact people's lives.

00:13:42.000 Like, who are we going to hire to fly our airplanes?

00:13:45.000 How we're going to run our medical institutions?

00:13:48.000 How are we going to house people and certain college campuses?

00:13:51.000 Or how are we going to educate our children?

00:13:54.000 Black-only classroom, white-only classroom at Atlanta public schools.

00:13:57.000 And so let's just state things that are very obvious, which is human equality, the way that we were raised to believe it in the American sense, means that you should judge people, if at all, but we all make judgments and you should.

00:14:10.000 And you should never judge people based on the color of anyone's skin, but you should judge people based on character, their soul, and their spirit.

00:14:17.000 So if there's like some random axe murderer or Eric Rudolph or Ted Kaczynski or Timothy McVeigh, you don't say like, oh, they're evil because they're a certain skin color.

00:14:26.000 It's like, oh, they're evil because they killed a bunch of civilians and innocent people against, you know, with just totally belligerently.

00:14:32.000 That's an evil thing to do.

00:14:34.000 However, what happens now is a mass categorization of a certain type of people and then this new phrase called whiteness, which is a very interesting thing.

00:14:44.000 Like you're participating in this custom or this civilization of whiteness. 0.93

00:14:48.000 Now, again, when pressed, never can really define that.

00:14:52.000 But when you dive into it, the truth reveals itself.

00:14:55.000 Western civilization.

00:14:57.000 They equate whiteness with Western civilization.

00:15:01.000 And that is something that we must say.

00:15:02.000 Hold on a second.

00:15:03.000 You mean Western civilization?

00:15:05.000 The place where reason and revelation met into one?

00:15:08.000 The place where freedom of speech and dialogue and a transcendent order was instituted into a constitutional republic?

00:15:15.000 Like the place where the idea of separation of powers, independent judiciary, checks and balances, the idea that a government should be of and by and for the people, this idea of Western society is actually at the root of their critique.

00:15:28.000 And that's what it really is, because if you were to try to deconstruct Western civilization, they have realized, and they being the people that are supporting this garbage, which is in the predominant viewpoint of every major institution.

00:15:40.000 What's interesting, though, is that I don't actually think a majority of Americans are okay with this.

00:15:44.000 The polls show they aren't.

00:15:45.000 I know that anecdotally, but it's a majority of the powerful people are doing this.

00:15:50.000 So it's not a majority of you, the subjects, not citizens, because that's how we're governed.

00:15:55.000 No, it's the majority of people that run the colleges, that run our government, that run the tech companies.

00:15:59.000 By the way, super thrilled Facebook went off for like five hours today.

00:16:02.000 It was a great thing.

00:16:03.000 I was cheering for it just to continue.

00:16:06.000 Fortunately, I think it's back online.

00:16:08.000 Not all good things can last forever, unfortunately.

00:16:11.000 Not a fan.

00:16:12.000 But anyway, maybe you guys are big fans of Facebook and whatever.

00:16:16.000 So that the people that are running these major companies, they all embrace the certain orthodoxy.

00:16:23.000 Why?

00:16:25.000 It's because where you guys go to school, University of Michigan, or whatever schools that are represented here, especially if you go to your master's program or you get a law degree or a PhD, those are a pipeline.

00:16:37.000 It's a non-stop highway into the places of influence around the rest of the country.

00:16:42.000 Where just like a normal person, a plumber from Indianapolis, Indiana, looks at this and he's like, I don't need a PhD.

00:16:49.000 No, this is racism and bigotry.

00:16:52.000 Like some of this stuff takes so much unnecessary sort of time and attention where all of a sudden this sort of nonsense must be taught.

00:17:02.000 And what's happened then is you have the people in charge of our entire society that are then trying to implement it against us.

00:17:08.000 And here's the great irony of the whole thing, is that when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the 1960s, we were promised a colorblind society.

00:17:17.000 And in reality, we've got the exact opposite, is that instead of colorblindness, we now have heightened racial consciousness and awareness.

00:17:25.000 Where, again, I feel like I'm 75 years old when I say this.

00:17:29.000 When I was a kid in Chicago, which was like 10 years ago, when I was in high school, literally 10 years ago, if the idea that you would judge people based on their skin color would be deemed immoral and it would be intellectually sloppy and lazy and at very best, you would be asked to like completely reconsider that.

00:17:46.000 Now this is considered to be tolerant.

00:17:49.000 It's considered to be the status quo of kind of how you implement either ideas or public policy.

00:17:56.000 And the consequences of this are very, very real, is that not just because of all these six examples that I rattled off, but America is now rapidly becoming an unsafe, and dare I say, more unpleasant place to live because of this.

00:18:13.000 Is that, and again, I feel like I'm like yielding to this 50-year-old nostalgia.

00:18:18.000 10 years ago, it was actually a much more pleasant, safer place to live.

00:18:22.000 I'll just kind of give you some numbers. 0.98

00:18:24.000 Ever since the defund police movement and abolished police movement, which is tied together with this entire argument, systemic racism, marching the streets, shooting black people without their consent, all a bunch of garbage and nonsense. 0.89

00:18:34.000 But there's been a near 30% increase in murders since 2020. 0.97

00:18:39.000 21,570 total murders last year.

00:18:42.000 The largest single-year jump since the Bureau started recording crime statistics six decades ago.

00:18:48.000 A surge in killings drove an overall 5% increase in violent crime last year.

00:18:52.000 2,021 homicides are running ahead last year by a count of 4,033 to 3,341 at the same time last year.

00:19:00.000 And I read some blog of some guy said, oh, no, they're just making up for how they were locked down.

00:19:04.000 Like, who's making it, like, the criminals are trying to make up for lost time?

00:19:07.000 Like, what kind of crazy argument is this?

00:19:09.000 You're like, oh, no, no, they're locked down, so they got to get it out of it. 0.98

00:19:12.000 They got a lot of people they want to kill.

00:19:13.000 Like, really? 0.94

00:19:14.000 This is the argument that we're making.

00:19:16.000 And police in so many communities are now no longer allowed to do their job because they're afraid that some activist group is going to call for their firing.

00:19:25.000 Whatever interaction that happens will be widely misinterpreted and misrepresented on the news media.

00:19:30.000 So the reason we did this tour and we are doing this tour is that regardless of your political affiliation, and trust me, I have plenty of opinions on every controversial topic you could possibly ask me about tonight.

00:19:41.000 Feel free to ask me about technology, immigration, abortion, like whatever it is.

00:19:44.000 I don't care.

00:19:45.000 But the point is that at the very least, we need a 70, 80% consensus that if we keep going in this direction, there will be no disagreement of opinion.

00:19:54.000 That America, as we know it, will shatter into a million different pieces.

00:19:58.000 That we are going to be something that resembles a South American banana republic like Brazil, where the rich people are just fine and there's nothing but persistent and perpetual racial conflict in every other quarter of the country.

00:20:09.000 And what's so tragic about this is that the very communities that they say that they actually want to help, you know, black communities, actually get harmed the most by these sorts of policies.

00:20:19.000 They say, this is all about representing, you know, black constituents that are being unfairly targeted by police officers.

00:20:25.000 And the result is what's called the Ferguson effect, which happened after 2014, 2015, after the Michael Brown hands up, don't shoot lie, when all of a sudden police officers said, fine, if you're all of a sudden going to that we're the problem, we're getting out.

00:20:35.000 We're retreating.

00:20:36.000 You see this in Minneapolis.

00:20:37.000 You see this in Philadelphia.

00:20:39.000 You see this in New York City, where all of a sudden you retreat from just kind of very basic policing and law enforcement, then the people with money, they'll just go to Aspen on their private jet.

00:20:48.000 They're going to be fine.

00:20:49.000 But it's the single mother working two jobs with three kids that's trying to just survive or their kid gets shot on the way to school. 0.55

00:20:56.000 And so the tragedy of this is all of a sudden we're being ruled by these intellectually weak and dare I say dangerous and immoral ideas where the very constituents they say they're trying to help actually have become disproportionately hurt by these very ideas over the last year and a half, year and a half, especially.

00:21:13.000 And so there's one other thought I want to get into with this, which is how we actually build the society.

00:21:18.000 Because people say, well, Charlie, what's your solution then?

00:21:20.000 Well, first, I need to agree with the problem.

00:21:22.000 Do I think that police officers killing unarmed black people is a major problem in our country?

00:21:28.000 Of course not. 0.90

00:21:29.000 You look at the Washington Post, who's like ridiculously generous in their reporting towards this narrative.

00:21:34.000 They said that there were 18, that's right, 1-8 unarmed black people that were killed by police officers in year 2019 or 2018.

00:21:43.000 Now, even if you look at those definitions, some of them were like, oh, they were in a car trying to run over the police officer, like trying to grab the police officer's weapon.

00:21:50.000 I mean, you kind of look at that, you're like, okay, if you go down, it's probably like six where the police officer really and truly acted wrong. 0.98

00:21:57.000 So you go through 335 million police interactions every single year, and you're trying to tell me we need to radically redefine society and change the way we hire pilots because six police officers are jerks should go to prison. 0.97

00:22:08.000 Like that's the argument? 0.97

00:22:09.000 Is that like that's the reason to totally tear apart the country?

00:22:14.000 And I always get these arguments like you have to hear my story.

00:22:19.000 Like you don't know what it's like to walk in my shoes.

00:22:21.000 Like look, if we're going to govern by our own personal testimony, then everyone's going to have a different form of government.

00:22:27.000 The cool thing about empiricism is like, here's the data.

00:22:30.000 Do you agree or disagree?

00:22:31.000 Is this the way that we should organize society or not?

00:22:34.000 And like some people still commit to this idea that there is this unknown or non-definable or undefinable, I should say, racism that exists in the bones and the structure of our country.

00:22:50.000 And so then it kind of conveniently goes to something that I am very comfortable talking about, which is where they've always wanted to bring this argument.

00:22:59.000 Because I could show you the truth police statistics.

00:23:01.000 Happy to go through that if anyone's interested.

00:23:03.000 Kind of like verse by verse, chapter by chapter, where this idea of a disproportionate police force going after black people is just completely and totally untrue.

00:23:11.000 When in reality, it's the opposite, when in reality, actually, police officers are more likely to be shot by black people than the other way around, 18 and a half times more likely, actually, according to the Wall Street Journal's own statistics.

00:23:23.000 But in reality, here's where it really comes down to, which is a full indictment of our story as Americans.

00:23:30.000 This is what they've always wanted to get to.

00:23:33.000 So they use, you know, the death of George Floyd, which I'm going to go into great detail tomorrow in Minnesota.

00:23:38.000 It'll be a lot of fun, to kind of talk.

00:23:40.000 Like, again, I'm not saying he deserved to die.

00:23:42.000 Of course, I didn't say that.

00:23:43.000 But we should also talk about how he was likely overdosing from drug use and that the first autopsy said that.

00:23:48.000 And this guy is not someone that you should like deify and put up on some sort of platter.

00:23:52.000 He literally was a lifelong criminal who went up to a pregnant woman with a gun.

00:23:56.000 Like, that's not exactly someone who's like, let's go put statues to this man.

00:23:59.000 Like, yeah, no, thank you.

00:24:00.000 Okay.

00:24:00.000 And so, and so let me just kind of extend past that where I say they use that as a segue and a gateway drug to go after our shared story experience, which is the American founding, the American framers, and our American story.

00:24:16.000 And this is one of the most important topics we can talk about, which is, should we be proud of our founding or should we be scared to even mention it and always have to say this?

00:24:30.000 I can't stand it when conservatives say this.

00:24:32.000 Yeah, the founding fathers were brilliant, but yeah, they also owned slaves.

00:24:35.000 Why is that so necessary to say, do you actually know the true context in the history?

00:24:39.000 So human equality means the following.

00:24:39.000 Here's one thing.

00:24:42.000 That we are all speaking beings.

00:24:44.000 We have reason.

00:24:45.000 And guess what?

00:24:46.000 We are all born into a world we did not create.

00:24:50.000 We all have that in common, right?

00:24:52.000 So Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Alexander Hamilton, John Jay, Ben Franklin, I could keep going, were all born into a world that they did not create.

00:25:00.000 So they were born into a world where slavery was ubiquitous.

00:25:03.000 It was the norm.

00:25:04.000 It was defended.

00:25:05.000 And it was unchallenged.

00:25:07.000 What do they do about it?

00:25:08.000 Well, the first ever anti-slavery convention in the history of the planet happened in 1775 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, chaired by Benjamin Franklin.

00:25:18.000 Where all of a sudden they started to ask this question.

00:25:20.000 They said, if we're going to believe in natural rights, how are we going to get rid of this thing?

00:25:24.000 Is this right for all of a sudden human beings to own human beings?

00:25:28.000 In 1777, right after the Declaration of Independence was signed, Vermont independently abolished slavery.

00:25:34.000 First sovereign state to do that.

00:25:36.000 Nine out of 13 of the states, by the time the Constitutional Convention met in the summer of 1787, had already independently abolished slavery.

00:25:43.000 Nine out of 13.

00:25:45.000 In George Washington's own private journals and musings, he said, it's not a matter of if we get rid of slavery, it's a matter of how we get rid of slavery.

00:25:53.000 After the Constitutional Convention, the Northwest Ordinance came up, which is where we are right now.

00:25:57.000 Congratulations, everybody.

00:25:58.000 We're in the Northwest part of the country.

00:25:59.000 You're like, what are you talking about?

00:26:00.000 This actually used to be considered the Northwest Territories because of how geographically different America was.

00:26:05.000 The Mississippi River was the western boundary of America until the Louisiana Purchase of 1803 or 1806, where all of a sudden all the states met together and they said, what are we going to do with this Northwest Territories?

00:26:16.000 And I encourage all of you to read the Northwest Ordinance.

00:26:18.000 It's a profoundly beautiful document.

00:26:21.000 And Article 6, or kind of Provision 6 of the Northwest Ordinance, says the following, that the Northwest Territories will be free territories, not slave territories.

00:26:31.000 One of the first measures ever put forward by all 13 states unanimously agreeing.

00:26:37.000 So you'd think that the new territories would be a reflection of the type of nation that you're trying to create.

00:26:43.000 Yet all 13 states or 13 colonies agree, you know what?

00:26:46.000 The new territories, those places need to be free.

00:26:49.000 It's a pretty amazing thing.

00:26:50.000 And I could go through how Thomas Jefferson contested for the abolition of slavery as governor in the 1790s.

00:26:55.000 Thomas Jefferson signed the first person to sign a moratorium of new slaves being brought into the United States as one of his first actions as president in March of 1803 or 1807.

00:27:04.000 I could keep going, list by list by list.

00:27:06.000 But I think it's more important to realize this.

00:27:08.000 This is the whole point.

00:27:10.000 When Thomas Jefferson was on his deathbed, was slavery more popular or less popular when Thomas Jefferson entered the world?

00:27:17.000 It was less popular.

00:27:18.000 It was less institutionalized.

00:27:20.000 It was less widespread.

00:27:22.000 That is how you should judge human beings.

00:27:24.000 You should judge human beings based on what did the world look like when they entered and what was their mark on it.

00:27:28.000 Not whether or not, well, me in my 2021 lens, because I'm a 19-year-old prick that goes to whatever school, I think I know the best because I'm such a good person.

00:27:38.000 And that's not to say I'm defending an indefensible evil, but I'm saying who began the process of closing the door on an unspeakable sin?

00:27:49.000 Was it you?

00:27:50.000 Like with your sign that says climate change is going to kill us all?

00:27:53.000 Like how about you read a book, a thick one, and get back to me sometime soon.

00:27:57.000 Go understand that somebody that existed before you said something wise and beautiful and good and true.

00:28:02.000 That there are some things that don't change.

00:28:04.000 And the founding fathers understood eternal wisdom and they were willing to do something about it.

00:28:10.000 They were willing to all of a sudden create a new government that allowed for people to speak and not be ruled by force.

00:28:16.000 And that's the kind of final point here before we get into questions, which is as we ask, like, how do we actually organize society?

00:28:23.000 There's only two ways, there's two buckets where you could put every government in the world now and every government of the last 5,000 years in one of the two buckets.

00:28:32.000 Is the government that you establish, is its central organizing principle, speech or force?

00:28:39.000 It's that simple.

00:28:40.000 Soviet Union, force.

00:28:42.000 Communist China today, force. 0.68

00:28:44.000 America, who knows?

00:28:46.000 It's a little in the middle right now, right?

00:28:47.000 But traditionally, it was speech.

00:28:49.000 What do I mean by that?

00:28:50.000 Well, to get elected, you got to make a good argument.

00:28:53.000 You got to convince people of something.

00:28:55.000 You got to tell them why you need to get power.

00:28:57.000 Power in America, as the founders saw it, will always be given from us to them.

00:29:03.000 Never forget that.

00:29:04.000 The people first, then the leaders, by the process of persuasion and dialogue and discourse that did not exist in the Soviet Union.

00:29:13.000 The Soviet Union is like, we have the guns, you don't. 0.89

00:29:17.000 Thanks for playing.

00:29:20.000 What ends up happening is because of this regime that we see, the CRT regime, wokeism, diversity industrial complex regime, is all of a sudden they say, what?

00:29:29.000 White silences violence. 0.73

00:29:31.000 Allow certain voices to have an elevated sort of platform.

00:29:34.000 And all of a sudden, you're like, wait a second, are we now going to be governed by the tyranny of the forcible minority or a better idea?

00:29:42.000 And I hate to make it as binary as that, but it really is that simple.

00:29:46.000 The best governments ever to exist always put an emphasis on speech.

00:29:50.000 The most tyrannical ones put an emphasis on force.

00:29:54.000 We take it for granted, right?

00:29:55.000 We're like, oh, yeah, it will never happen here.

00:29:56.000 It's happening here.

00:29:58.000 And this is a slow-motion cultural revolution.

00:30:00.000 So what do we do about it?

00:30:02.000 Again, we can go into all the amazing things we disagree with.

00:30:05.000 Happy to do that.

00:30:06.000 Seriously, like nothing is off limits.

00:30:07.000 You can dive into that.

00:30:08.000 But the most important thing is all of a sudden, like, wait a second, if we still want some semblance of a civilization, then we need to build a coalition, absent political parties, absent whatever you call yourself.

00:30:18.000 Like, I'm a libertarian, I'm a conservative, whatever, fine, I'm a conservative.

00:30:21.000 We could talk about that.

00:30:22.000 Where all of a sudden you're like, we need to defeat this woke industrial complex forcibly and quickly, because that will destroy us all. 0.97

00:30:30.000 It will destroy us from within quicker than any sort of domestic enemy ever could.

00:30:38.000 And I'll close with this, which is many people that are kind of, they remember a different America.

00:30:47.000 And I'm told a lot from people, or I'm asked a lot, Charlie, how did this happen?

00:30:52.000 How did we get to the place that we are in?

00:30:55.000 Well, put simply, post-1960s liberalism, they realized that to undermine the American nation, conflict is necessary to overflow the nation, not speech.

00:31:08.000 Pitting people against each other.

00:31:10.000 This is a doctrine of conflict politics, which is rich against poor, man against woman.

00:31:16.000 So I've lived through all three attempted takeovers of the American way of life in the last 10 years.

00:31:23.000 And I want to just walk you through them.

00:31:25.000 Number one, occupy Wall Street.

00:31:27.000 Now, out of all three of these, I actually agreed to occupy Wall Street the most.

00:31:32.000 Their complaints were not terrible. 0.99

00:31:33.000 Their solutions were garbage. 0.93

00:31:35.000 But their complaints were like, look, there's kind of this cartel of Wall Street bankers and DC insiders that continually rig the rules against normal people. 0.98

00:31:45.000 And we kind of want to talk about that.

00:31:47.000 And then they started talking about Marxism and socialism and confiscating property, and they lost most of Americans.

00:31:52.000 But then all of a sudden, the revolutionaries said, okay, we are not going to be able to take over America and get power for ourselves by just talking about economics.

00:32:01.000 It's not going to work.

00:32:02.000 Because generally, Americans like markets and they want to work hard.

00:32:06.000 That's tough to break.

00:32:06.000 So then what do they try next?

00:32:08.000 Man against woman and woman against man. 0.98

00:32:11.000 Best illustrated by the Brett Kavanaugh hearings a couple years ago, where like the most boring human being on the planet was called like a serial gang rapist in front of a Senate hearing.

00:32:24.000 And that fell apart because I don't think that the kind of regime realized that even liberal women have sons too, and they sometimes have husbands.

00:32:35.000 And you know what I mean?

00:32:36.000 Like there's kind of that whole thing where it's like, okay, maybe it's too far to indict like every single man.

00:32:43.000 They're like, no, believe all women no matter what.

00:32:45.000 And that obviously hit its limitations.

00:32:47.000 And it kind of dissolved.

00:32:48.000 Still, there's still elements of that there.

00:32:50.000 But then all of a sudden, after many years of attempting and careful plotting, when everyone was cooped up, you couldn't go to the gymnasiums, we couldn't go to sporting events, schools, there was almost this activist pressure cooker in May of last year, a video that animated everyone.

00:33:06.000 Then all of a sudden, we had a racial reckoning, as they call it.

00:33:10.000 And I just asked the very simple question, is this prudent?

00:33:14.000 Is this the best we really can do?

00:33:16.000 Where you have, if you believe that's an injustice, you say that's one injustice, and you say now we should radically redefine the Western prescribed way of life.

00:33:23.000 And so the goal was always the same, though, which is to displace power dynamics, which is to make private property less important, meritocracy less important, freedom of speech less important.

00:33:34.000 Communal ownership of goods, more important.

00:33:37.000 A technocracy, more important.

00:33:39.000 A rule of a scientific elite, more important.

00:33:42.000 Where the American tradition is now being put on the ropes by an unexpected villain.

00:33:48.000 And that villain is not rich versus poor, even though that's what's behind it.

00:33:51.000 It's not man versus woman, even though that's a component of it.

00:33:54.000 Instead, they want to start a race war in this country.

00:33:56.000 And I'm telling you, don't give it to them.

00:33:58.000 I'm saying do not give them what they want.

00:34:03.000 Instead, it's incumbent on us to call out what this is, to realize how good we have it in this nation, understand our history, understand our values, understand where we come from, and then be able to appropriately and effectively push back against it.

00:34:17.000 Okay, let's do some questions.

00:34:19.000 And I'm not sure how we're going to do it.

00:34:20.000 I think we're going to do a line.

00:34:21.000 And if you disagree, feel free to go to the front of the line, which we always do.

00:34:26.000 And it's a question, not a speech.

00:34:28.000 If you go too long, we reserve the right to pull the microphone.

00:34:31.000 Okay, we have one line or two.

00:34:32.000 Morgan, are we doing one?

00:34:34.000 All right, just start lining up there, everybody, and we'll have some fun.

00:34:42.000 Oh, this just broke while I was speaking.

00:34:44.000 The Attorney General Merrick Garland has instructed the FBI to mobilize against parents who oppose critical race theory in public schools, citing threats.

00:34:52.000 The directive follows the National School Board Association's request to classify parents as domestic terrorists.

00:34:57.000 Okay.

00:35:00.000 It's true.

00:35:02.000 Yeah.

00:35:05.000 The stakes are very high.

00:35:06.000 Okay, again, if you disagree, if you want to cut the line, you guys are allowed to do that.

00:35:11.000 Just tell the people your question.

00:35:13.000 All right.

00:35:13.000 Yes.

00:35:15.000 Oh, sorry.

00:35:16.000 This question is sort of unrelated, but I understand that you're a Christian, and I get a lot of people who tell me about like how Jesus was a socialist because he said, if your brother, you know, doesn't have food, give him some the all that, you know, basic morality.

00:35:34.000 And I just wanted to know how you sort of combat that Jesus was not a communist.

00:35:44.000 So socialism violates two out of the ten commandments, thou shalt not covet and thou shalt not steal, just right out of the bat.

00:35:50.000 Jesus would, let's just talk about Jesus.

00:35:52.000 If he was anything less than or some sort of political activist than the savior of the world and the son of God, I immediately say, time out.

00:35:59.000 You're now co-opting the way, the truth, and the life for some sort of weird political agenda.

00:36:04.000 And I think that should be dismissed altogether immediately.

00:36:07.000 But let me just say this, that Jesus talked very clearly, and I won't spend too much time on this, but I suppose there's some interest in this, very clearly about the need for multiplication.

00:36:18.000 The parable of the talents is one of the best illustrations of this.

00:36:21.000 Does socialism subtract and divide or multiply and add by definition?

00:36:28.000 And did Jesus ever call for state-run action to actually distribute the means of production or to try to help the poor?

00:36:36.000 Did he call for you individually to help people, for you individually to give the cloak off your back to help people?

00:36:44.000 And let me say this, that using prudence, which comes from a Greek word prudentia, we must look at things as they are, not how we wish them to be.

00:36:53.000 Socialism is the creed of envy and a philosophy of failure.

00:36:57.000 It's rooted in wanting to take away somebody's house, income, or wealth.

00:37:02.000 Now, I think some Christians are saying, I want to help people.

00:37:06.000 Let's talk about helping people.

00:37:07.000 What does it say in this?

00:37:08.000 What does Paul say about work?

00:37:09.000 Man does not work, he shall not eat.

00:37:11.000 Says that twice in Proverbs as well.

00:37:13.000 Is the best way to help people, to give them something that they did not earn or empower them to understand what earned success actually is?

00:37:21.000 Jesus never, ever argued against private property itself.

00:37:26.000 In fact, the idea of private property is a biblical idea.

00:37:30.000 When Abraham went to go to Hebron, when he wanted to go buy a piece of land to bury himself and his lineage, a very important thing in Jewish custom, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, he went and actually executed the first ever real estate purchase in the history of the world.

00:37:45.000 He bought Hebron.

00:37:46.000 He didn't conquer it.

00:37:47.000 He didn't say God wants it.

00:37:48.000 He said, okay, I'll exchange value for this piece of land.

00:37:51.000 The idea of self-government as we know it is actually a biblical idea.

00:37:55.000 And so some people say, Charlie, why do you believe the Bible is divinely inspired?

00:37:58.000 A lot of different reasons.

00:37:59.000 But one of the other reasons is that no people would ever write a book that makes themselves look as bad as the Jews wrote the Old Testament. 0.93

00:38:08.000 It must be true.

00:38:09.000 I mean, they're a total mess for like 500 chapters.

00:38:14.000 They're lying, they're stealing, they're cheating.

00:38:16.000 Like only if this actually happened, this was divinely inspired would they put this down.

00:38:20.000 But also, this is a very important point, is that, for example, you take the Babylonians or you take the Hammurabi Code, some skeptics will say, well, the Hammurabi Code is very similar to the Jewish code.

00:38:33.000 There's nothing unique about it.

00:38:34.000 But what's different is that the king came first in Babylonian culture, then the law came.

00:38:40.000 In Jewish culture, which of course is the Old Testament, the Christian Bible, the law came first and then the king came.

00:38:46.000 In Galatians 3, it says the law is a school teacher to Christ.

00:38:50.000 The law is a guardian that points you to Christ.

00:38:53.000 What's that important?

00:38:53.000 Why is that important?

00:38:54.000 It's important because if you advocate for socialism, you have a different view of justice than the ancient Jewish Hebrew view of justice.

00:39:02.000 The view of justice that those of you that are Christians have, at least earthly justice, is a man is given what he is due.

00:39:10.000 You murder somebody, you pay a price for that.

00:39:12.000 You steal something, you pay a price for that.

00:39:13.000 The socialistic view of justice is a give a man, not what he is due, but what makes it egalitarian.

00:39:22.000 One of the commandments in Leviticus says you shall never favor a rich man in a criminal trial or favor a poor person at a criminal trial.

00:39:31.000 This is where we get the Western idea that justice must be blind.

00:39:35.000 And the final thing I'll say about this is that throughout Jesus' ministry, which of course was ended at the hands of the state, He wanted to bring people from a place of spiritual captivity to a place of freedom and liberty only through his son and accepting Jesus Christ.

00:39:54.000 The story of the Bible, put simply, is to set the captives free.

00:39:57.000 God did it in Egypt with the Jews and again through Jesus Christ. 0.98

00:40:02.000 Socialism does the opposite.

00:40:04.000 It makes the free captive, not the captive free.

00:40:08.000 And we must advocate for as many people to live in liberty as possible.

00:40:11.000 Thank you so much.

00:40:19.000 Hey, Charlie, how are you doing?

00:40:20.000 My name is P.J. Serati, and I thank you very much for coming here today.

00:40:23.000 Now, Amanda Bourne and I, we're founders of Michigan Students Take Charge, and we're working, just like you, to empower students across this country.

00:40:30.000 Now, we are truly working to bring students together across all these issues.

00:40:34.000 And, you know, you bring critical race theory and other issues, and you kind of bundle them together, and you kind of discuss them on your platform, which I love.

00:40:40.000 Now, one of the issues that I have been having a very hard time with dealing with is this issue of abortion and pro-choice and freedoms that we as Americans hold.

00:40:50.000 Now, I believe that this issue, this freedom of choice, this bodily choice, is the Achilles heel of our opposition.

00:40:56.000 Now, I'm struggling right now because I truly believe that there is some common ground that the left and the right and us versus them can come to with this.

00:41:04.000 But how do I go about doing this?

00:41:06.000 How do I, through my organization, bring people together when it's such a tough issue as abortion?

00:41:12.000 It's only tough if you view a human life as property.

00:41:18.000 So it's a binary choice.

00:41:20.000 Are human beings persons or are you property?

00:41:23.000 And the question is, then when does human life begin?

00:41:25.000 And so I'm very pro-life.

00:41:27.000 Human life begins at conception.

00:41:30.000 The science of embryology tells us as soon as new DNA is formed and the sperm and egg meet, all of a sudden that human life begins the process of growing into a full and total mature human being.

00:41:42.000 So the argument that is sometimes made by pro-abortion activists is that, well, it's small.

00:41:48.000 It's the size of a peanut.

00:41:49.000 Well, I'm 6'4. 0.94

00:41:50.000 Do I now have a moral right to be able to kill every single person in this room that is shorter than I am? 0.79

00:41:55.000 Of course not. 0.67

00:41:56.000 So that's size.

00:41:57.000 So for anyone here that cares about the abortion issue, these are the four biggest things that you're going to encounter.

00:42:01.000 I'm going to talk about how we might be able to reach consensus, which I'm not too optimistic about, which is the second is level of development.

00:42:07.000 So first is size, then level of development, which is how far along the developmental timeline are they?

00:42:14.000 So this is where all of a sudden you get some one of these arbitrary weeks.

00:42:17.000 Now, don't get me wrong.

00:42:18.000 I prefer, obviously, a six-week ban than an unrestricted ban all the way through.

00:42:23.000 But an 18-week old baby is equally a human being as a two-week old baby.

00:42:29.000 And it's just not developed all the way along the same.

00:42:34.000 So here's what's amazing about human beings, is that unlike putting together a Corvette at an assembly line, is that a human being given nutrients will grow itself.

00:42:43.000 It's not something you have to put inputs in.

00:42:46.000 It's not something where you have to kind of add knobs and polish it.

00:42:48.000 The human being within our genetic code is development itself.

00:42:52.000 The third is environment, that some pro-abortion activists will say, well, because it's in the womb, not outside the womb, therefore there's a different moral categorization and characterization.

00:43:02.000 Now, we know this is not true, obviously, that just because something is a different place doesn't give it a different moral right or different moral categorization.

00:43:11.000 Because someone who is 95 years old is in an old person's home or someone who is living at home, you know, in their own home, doesn't change the kind of way that we morally view them. 0.90

00:43:21.000 And then finally, the one that trips up pro-life activists the most is the degree of dependency, which is how dependent is that being on another.

00:43:30.000 This is the one that trips up a lot of people that are pro-life, where they say, well, all of a sudden, the pro-abortion activists will say, it's not a full and autonomous life because it's dependent on the mother, because it will not be able to survive in the state of nature without assistance.

00:43:44.000 Now, any person who's dealt with a six-day-old or a 15-day old or a 20-week-old knows very simply and clearly that that sort of autonomous ability to hunt and gather, that's not going to come for like a decade, let alone for 10 days.

00:43:59.000 Same can be said for people that are on feeding tubes or in comas.

00:44:03.000 Should we go start pulling plugs all the time for people in comas? 0.99

00:44:06.000 Now, some pro-abortion activists will say, well, Charlie, we're able to pull plugs of people in comas.

00:44:11.000 Like, hold on a second.

00:44:12.000 There's a very strict legal and dare I say controversial process to do that that happens rarely at a low percentage where there are over 3,000 abortions a day in America.

00:44:23.000 And I would actually not support the kind of cord plug pulling, kind of cord pulling that happens as, let's just say, often as it happens with people in comas.

00:44:31.000 Now, one argument, and you guys will all see a debate, I put that in the air quotes because it was a total circus, that I have coming out on Thursday against a pro-abortion activist, which is where this one guy thought he was being a smart aleck debating me.

00:44:42.000 He says, Well, Charlie, what's your birthday?

00:44:45.000 And your birthday is how old you are. 0.96

00:44:47.000 Now, this is a ridiculous argument, right?

00:44:49.000 Because we don't call it our conception day, we call it our day of birth. 0.60

00:44:52.000 I don't know if you ever heard this argument before, but it's like there, it's kind of like sophistry linguistics, right?

00:44:57.000 Where we believe human life begins nine months before your birth, but what's the significance of your birth?

00:45:04.000 All of a sudden, the people who brought you into the world, your mother and your father, get to meet you for the first time.

00:45:11.000 That's why we celebrate the birthday, that you are outside of the womb.

00:45:14.000 Now, the final thing I'll say is this: which is the best logical argument against abortion, which is that if it's not your DNA, it's not your choice.

00:45:22.000 That if it's a different set of DNA that's been formed, and that new, and whether it be the fingerprint, eyes, nose, breath, heartbeat.

00:45:32.000 So, how do you reach consensus on this issue?

00:45:35.000 I don't have good advice on that, honestly, because I tend to be someone who believes if we can, I'll give you some advice, it might not be helpful, which is if we cannot reach consensus or agreement on an issue that is so fundamentally clear as to when does life begin, do we defend those that can't defend themselves?

00:45:52.000 Then, I believe all the other issues that we're fumbling and that we're clumsy with can be attributed back to that one.

00:45:58.000 I would say, though, that one way that you might be able to reach consensus or agreement is just saying, Do you want more abortions or less abortions?

00:46:07.000 Do you think that's a person or is that a property?

00:46:09.000 Where on the animal kingdom hierarchy is a fetus?

00:46:13.000 Is it a crocodile that turns into a human being, or is it a human being that remains a human being and you believe you can abolish it because of its size, level, development, environment, or degree of dependency?

00:46:23.000 And I believe there's actually, I believe, the more we talk about this issue compassionately, rationally, and factually, I believe that we're winning on the pro-life issue.

00:46:33.000 And I think conservatives in elected office and in advocacy should be unafraid to talk about this and not try to pander to less talking points on an issue as important as life.

00:46:42.000 So, thank you so much.

00:46:46.000 I will reinvite if anyone has a disagreement, let it be known that I offered.

00:46:50.000 Okay.

00:46:52.000 Good evening.

00:46:53.000 My name's Abby.

00:46:54.000 I was just wondering what you think we can do to ensure that our future generation is not racist.

00:47:02.000 Yeah, so I okay, I think you mean like the definition of racist we've been talking about, right?

00:47:07.000 Okay, good.

00:47:08.000 Yeah, I mean, I think we have to stop talking about race so much.

00:47:12.000 I think that's like the first step: why are we focused so much on this?

00:47:17.000 And again, we reluctantly did this as a counter move to just the arbitrage of the race conversation, because I just kind of want to put this to bed once and for all.

00:47:26.000 I don't know about you, but I'm so tired of like worrying about racial quotas and the melanin content people's skin and whether or not pilots are going to be a certain skin color.

00:47:36.000 And so I want to create an America where race is de-emphasized and character is elevated as the primary way that we organize society.

00:47:46.000 I think that's the best possible way I can answer that.

00:47:48.000 So, thank you.

00:47:52.000 Hello, my name is Annette, and I am currently in a battle with two different superintendents at two different school districts over the word equity.

00:48:02.000 And several parents I know who are here are in the middle of this battle as well.

00:48:08.000 And the superintendent in my school district, I asked if you're meeting the mission statement of our school, why are you now trying to push for this instead of CRT?

00:48:19.000 They're calling it DBEI, diversity, belonging, equity, and inclusivity.

00:48:23.000 So, why are you pushing for the equity, especially since you know that term is evolving?

00:48:29.000 And she's trying to trip me up.

00:48:31.000 Well, how is that term evolving?

00:48:33.000 Right.

00:48:34.000 So, I'm trying to catch her in a trap by saying: if you were meeting the needs of every student with our mission statement, why the push for the DBEI?

00:48:43.000 She keeps saying it's important because not everyone comes from the same level playing ground.

00:48:48.000 And she says, And how is equity changing?

00:48:51.000 Can you tell me that?

00:48:52.000 That's what she says to me.

00:48:54.000 So, well, I mean, it's so clear.

00:48:56.000 I mean, it'll be clear to you and I.

00:48:57.000 I don't know if you can convince this administrator.

00:49:00.000 So, what the other side is engaging in is word laundering, where they take a definition of the word.

00:49:06.000 You guys ever see Ozark, Marty Bird, great, great show, and they literally launder it through the system.

00:49:10.000 They're like, oh, no, no, equity actually means fairness and inclusivity.

00:49:14.000 Well, we know what it means, where equity means forced redistribution.

00:49:19.000 That's what it means.

00:49:20.000 And I could give you multiple examples of how the critical race theorists themselves in their training seminars are now saying, Let's start using equity and not use CRT.

00:49:29.000 But I think the best example is this.

00:49:31.000 And I would just ask a set of questions of the administration that they have to answer.

00:49:34.000 And here, actually, you actually segue to something I forgot to ask: which is these are three questions that you can ask any of your friends to see which side that they're on on this.

00:49:43.000 These are three ones.

00:49:44.000 Number one: Is race a characteristic you care about in judging people?

00:49:50.000 Is it any sort of a determining factor? 0.98

00:49:52.000 If the answer is yes, but you're a racist, you're in the CRT bucket. 0.58

00:49:56.000 Number two, what is your opinion of black-only dormitories and Hispanic-only dormitories, also known as segregation? 0.93

00:50:03.000 And the third is this: Should people be grouped and punished based on their group?

00:50:10.000 It's a very important question.

00:50:11.000 Should people be punished or should they be organized based on their group, based on their skin color?

00:50:18.000 For example, in your school district, they might be saying, Well, Hispanic students are doing far worse than white students.

00:50:24.000 And the next question you need to say is: Have you factored income?

00:50:28.000 Put race aside.

00:50:29.000 How are poor white students doing against poor Hispanic students?

00:50:32.000 Have you factored in whether or not they have mothers or not in the home or fathers in the home?

00:50:35.000 Have you factored that into account?

00:50:37.000 You see, we have to challenge the premise, and here's what you should say: I'm all for an equity conversation about whether or not people that do not have fathers in the home get the attention they need, of whether or not people that have lower incomes have the attention they need.

00:50:53.000 That's not what they're talking about, they're based strictly and solely on race.

00:50:56.000 I don't know the example you have in your local school district.

00:50:59.000 But the thing that always trips them up is the conversation about how this actually gets fixed because they actually want to destroy it, which is, do you want to rebuild the nuclear family or not?

00:51:12.000 They never want to talk about it.

00:51:13.000 Do you notice that throughout every single one of these conversations, they never want to talk about putting men back in the household?

00:51:20.000 It's always about police reform, access to capital, stimulus checks, or Green New Deal.

00:51:26.000 How about this?

00:51:26.000 You have men take responsibility for their actions, stay loyally married to the person they impregnate, and stay with that person.

00:51:35.000 Now, I'm happy to walk you through the specifics of your school district offline, but those are things they usually do not want to talk about.

00:51:45.000 And absent skin color or any of those groups, the things that I think matter the most is whether or not we are talking about rebuilding nuclear family and holding that up as an ideal. 0.75

00:51:56.000 So happy to help you offline.

00:51:57.000 Thank you so much.

00:52:04.000 Hi, my name's Kaylee.

00:52:05.000 I just want to thank you so much for coming out here and talking to all of us.

00:52:09.000 I just have a question.

00:52:11.000 What do you think is like sort of the ultimate goal of critical race theory?

00:52:15.000 Not necessarily the goal of like the 19-year-old girls screaming at people that they're a racist on the side of the street, but more of like the goal of like the big people in power are like some of the goals.

00:52:26.000 That is such a great question.

00:52:28.000 And so I have long abandoned the benefit of good intentions.

00:52:36.000 You know, some people say, oh, yeah, you know, Jeff Bezos, he wants a less racist world.

00:52:40.000 Like, yeah, give me a break.

00:52:41.000 Okay.

00:52:41.000 Jeff Bezos wants to go to Saturn or something weird.

00:52:44.000 Okay.

00:52:45.000 No, it's all about power, obviously.

00:52:48.000 It's about creating America into this racially divided, quasi-apartheid state where there's non-stop class conflict. 0.65

00:52:57.000 You see, when Americans get along, the elites lose power.

00:53:02.000 When we live in harmony, people with very little skill have to go find something else to do.

00:53:09.000 When we're getting along, all of a sudden, white fragility goes to like 955,000 in the Amazon book charts. 0.84

00:53:16.000 When we actually are looking at people as human beings, that we're all made in the image of God, then all of a sudden BLM kind of has to close up shop.

00:53:24.000 There's not really an audience for that.

00:53:25.000 Now you might say, well, Charlie, that's awfully Machiavellian.

00:53:28.000 Of course it is.

00:53:28.000 That's how these people operate.

00:53:30.000 It's always through power dynamics.

00:53:32.000 And I'll give you a perfect example.

00:53:33.000 We have seen the fraud of this entire movement as clear as day in the media and the propagandists' unwillingness to stand by BLM against forced vaccinations.

00:53:45.000 We have seen that they actually don't care about the things they say they care about, that they use this as a means to an end to try to make white suburbanites feel bad about their skin color, to go get $250 donations to BLM.com so that Patrice Cullers can go buy houses all over the country to try to mobilize people to go down and burn down Wendy's to try to boost black turnout in political elections every couple years. 0.52

00:54:06.000 But when actually the black community is like, hey, we don't want to take vaccines against our will, there's a couple BLM organizers in New York that guess what? 0.54

00:54:13.000 Are attacked by all the major leaders of the apparatus of the city of New York that are attacked by the regime media and said they're anti-science. 0.90

00:54:21.000 I thought we have to believe black voices and brown voices that you have to sit down and shut up and white silence of violence. 0.99

00:54:25.000 But instead, it's like, you know what?

00:54:27.000 They don't know what they're talking about because in some way, actually, the science regime and the technocracy actually outweighs the CRT regime.

00:54:34.000 That's a whole different tour we could do maybe at a different time, which is how we push back against the expert class and this cult of science that we have destroying our country, which we make this false idol out of science.

00:54:44.000 I'm happy to get into that if anyone's interested.

00:54:46.000 It's absolutely very disturbing in a lot of different ways.

00:54:50.000 So I guess the question is, what is the goal?

00:54:55.000 Power.

00:54:56.000 And so, yeah, there's this great phrase.

00:54:58.000 Someone could pull it up in 1984, which is a great book, all too applicable, where O'Brien, who's kind of the villain of the entire book, turns to Winston.

00:55:10.000 And there's this, I think it's like about page 285, depends what version you're reading.

00:55:15.000 And I love 1984, by the way.

00:55:17.000 I read it once a year.

00:55:18.000 It's kind of unbelievably creepy, how every year it gets more applicable.

00:55:21.000 And there's this phenomenal phrase where O'Brien turns to Winston and he's torturing him.

00:55:27.000 If you guys have read the book, you know this.

00:55:29.000 And Winston says, Why are you doing this?

00:55:33.000 What is your end goal?

00:55:35.000 You have to understand, Orwell was a Democrat socialist himself.

00:55:38.000 He went and fought in the Spanish Civil War.

00:55:40.000 He was super idealistic.

00:55:42.000 He himself actually ended up hating a lot of forms of socialism because he said it actually is more about hating the rich than helping the poor.

00:55:50.000 It's one of his most famous quotes.

00:55:52.000 But Orwell perfectly captured the mind and the motives of an authoritarian and a tyrant.

00:55:58.000 And there's this beautiful dialogue where O'Brien says, You do not understand.

00:56:02.000 It's power for power's sake.

00:56:04.000 It's the thrill of a boot on the neck, knowing I could remove it at any time, but I don't have to.

00:56:10.000 Now I'm paraphrasing, but it's this dark couple-page lecture that O'Brien is giving to the defenseless and depleted and destroyed Winston, who has nothing.

00:56:19.000 He doesn't own a home.

00:56:21.000 He doesn't have his identity, but he still wants to crush his soul because there is this urge for man to dominate the other.

00:56:28.000 That is a dark urge that has replicated itself over humanity the last 5,000 years.

00:56:33.000 I believe there's a spiritual dynamic to it.

00:56:35.000 Don't have to go to that as deeper as kind of how self-evident that is.

00:56:39.000 But so, what do they want?

00:56:40.000 They want power.

00:56:41.000 They want what O'Brien said to Winston in the most famous dialogue of the book.

00:56:45.000 We want to be in control and we want you to be underneath us.

00:56:49.000 And we have to resist that.

00:56:50.000 A free society and civil society requires an active citizenry that understands the threats.

00:56:55.000 These people want to be in control.

00:56:56.000 It's really that simple.

00:56:57.000 So thank you.

00:57:04.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:57:05.000 My name is James.

00:57:06.000 I'm from Southeast Michigan.

00:57:08.000 What do you think of the idea of scientism becoming a new religion?

00:57:14.000 Where you see.

00:57:15.000 Perfect segue.

00:57:17.000 You see these people putting up false prophets like Fauci and people like that and practically worshiping them.

00:57:27.000 What do you think?

00:57:28.000 Phenomenal question.

00:57:29.000 And so Winston Churchill wrote this beautiful letter after, I think it was in Afghanistan where he saw the Darvishes, which was kind of the Afghan fighting force, where they stumbled over a hill against the British Empire to go charge the British Empire.

00:57:47.000 And the British Empire had machine guns and the opposition, the Darvishes, did not, and they mowed them down. 1.00

00:57:52.000 15,000 dead within like 30 minutes, and maybe a couple casualties, like a couple on the British side.

00:57:58.000 It was a huge victory for the British Empire.

00:58:00.000 But Winston Churchill was super unsettled by this.

00:58:03.000 And he wrote this long essay where he said, No longer will the winner of wars have more courage or valor.

00:58:11.000 It's about technology, machinery, and science.

00:58:15.000 He was realizing in real time the people in control are not going to be the people with better ideas.

00:58:21.000 It's going to be the people that are able to build gizmos that can control us and keep us in lines of obedience.

00:58:27.000 Science can be a wonderful thing.

00:58:30.000 It really can.

00:58:31.000 Science can be something that is worthy of exploration.

00:58:35.000 But science absent morality will destroy our civilization.

00:58:40.000 Science should be a means to a moral end.

00:58:45.000 If you organize society strictly looking through a microscope, you will get eugenics very quickly. 0.98

00:58:51.000 Who's stronger than the others?

00:58:53.000 Who's worthy of survival?

00:58:54.000 Too many human beings, got to get rid of them.

00:58:57.000 Too much carbon dioxide because it's polluting the earth.

00:59:00.000 Eventually, you're going to have to start making moral claims.

00:59:03.000 Now, the morality of scientism is trust the experts.

00:59:07.000 Let's give more power to an unelected group that is unaccountable, that is unknown in the fourth branch of government.

00:59:15.000 Now, even if that was the case, I would be okay with that because at least you have disagreement amongst the experts.

00:59:20.000 Instead, we have a biomedical, tyrannical state of one-size-fits-all science, where you're not allowed to even say ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin, vitamin D, zinc, not being overweight.

00:59:35.000 Like very basic things, right?

00:59:37.000 Instead, we have a regime that focuses on, no, no, no, you must get vaccinated, regardless of what you're seeing, a breakthrough case, you know, you must get vaccinated.

00:59:47.000 And so, this cult of scientism segues beautifully to the prior question: what better way to control an entire civilization or society when all of a sudden you have an untouchable class of people that know more than you know that can never be cross-examined or criticized, no matter what.

01:00:03.000 And here's what's so incredible: you kind of have the common sense people, regular middle-class Americans, a lot of you are these, that kind of turned off the CDC propaganda and were like, wait a second, okay, I see who in my local area is getting really sick from this thing.

01:00:17.000 I see that younger people aren't getting that sick.

01:00:19.000 Maybe there might be a better treatment.

01:00:20.000 So, you just kind of started rationing, you know, kind of reasoning, a gift that God gave you.

01:00:24.000 You're like, wait a second, maybe this is not worth shutting down our entire civilization.

01:00:27.000 And you realize that the people who were in charge were, they never should be given the power to actually shut down an entire country or to micromanage through a technocracy.

01:00:39.000 And so, but you hit it perfectly.

01:00:42.000 It's replaced religion. 0.93

01:00:44.000 As America has become less religious, the God-sized hole in our heart has not gone away.

01:00:50.000 That people need to fill that void with something.

01:00:53.000 So, they fill it with believing in the salvation of Anthony Fauci or the sacrament of wearing a mask, where it's like a pseudo-religious experience.

01:01:04.000 That I'm going to wear the mask, I'm going to have the incantation of making myself feel good.

01:01:09.000 And this is mixed, obviously, with the cult of safetyism that is tied together with it, which is that safety should somehow be valued more than liberty, which has never been an American idea.

01:01:18.000 You can't have a great or an ambitious or strong nation where you care more about being safe than having liberty.

01:01:24.000 And so, I suppose I'm happy to get into the details of this, but I'll finish with this, which is that science is something that could be helpful and useful.

01:01:34.000 You want to know a country that valued science more than morality, one country that did it more than anything else?

01:01:39.000 The National Socialist Workers' Party in 1930s, Germany. 0.61

01:01:44.000 They were a country governed by mad scientists.

01:01:48.000 They had technological and scientific innovations, the likes of which humanity had never dreamed of seeing before the time.

01:01:57.000 They put down highways, railways, they had chemical weapon developments, they were having interstellar-type plans, the likes of which we'd never even comprehended before.

01:02:08.000 They were evil people, obviously, the most evil regime I think we've ever seen in the history of the planet.

01:02:13.000 I'm not saying that's what you automatically get when you do that, but what's to stop it?

01:02:18.000 Is that Socrates famously said, He said, or it was either Plato or Socrates, he said, I dread for the civilization that is run simply and solely by scientists, by subject matter experts.

01:02:31.000 And it is a religion, and I pray we can have a revival of actual religion, not the religion of Fauciism.

01:02:37.000 Thank you.

01:02:42.000 Again, if anyone disagrees, more than welcome to come up.

01:02:47.000 Hi, my name is Deanna.

01:02:49.000 I'm in the police academy right now.

01:02:51.000 My brother is also in the police academy, and I'm going to go to the next step.

01:02:53.000 Thank you for your service.

01:02:54.000 That's terrific.

01:02:59.000 I'm also married to a police officer.

01:03:02.000 And obviously, you know, we've lost a lot of friends through that.

01:03:06.000 It is what it is.

01:03:07.000 But what is the best way to talk about the ridiculousness of the argument that blue lives don't exist because that's your chosen profession?

01:03:17.000 And, you know, we take off our uniforms at the end of the day.

01:03:19.000 Whereas someone who is not white is always not white. 0.78

01:03:23.000 Yeah, I've never heard that one.

01:03:25.000 Yeah, I guess that's like an overemphasis on identity, be perfectly honest.

01:03:29.000 I can't stand identity politics.

01:03:31.000 It's repulsive.

01:03:33.000 But yeah, I mean, I think it would matter more that you actually can choose to be a police officer than whether or not you choose to be white, because we want to build a civilization around choice, action. 0.60

01:03:44.000 It's kind of like saying, oh, yeah, you know, you could choose to go into the military and get the Congressional Medal of Honor, but you can never stop being white. 0.98

01:03:51.000 Like, what kind of ridiculous accusation is that, right? 0.97

01:03:54.000 Like, oh, yeah, yeah, thanks for saving, you know, the child out of the burning home, but you'll never actually stop being white. 0.99

01:03:59.000 Like, really?

01:04:00.000 That's that somehow heroism, bravery, and courage are de-emphasized for melanin content.

01:04:05.000 Is that kind of what we're at?

01:04:07.000 Essentially, the answer is yes.

01:04:09.000 And so I've never heard that argument.

01:04:11.000 Doesn't surprise me.

01:04:12.000 But I want to thank you for what you're doing.

01:04:14.000 We need more people to be police officers.

01:04:16.000 It's so incredibly important.

01:04:18.000 And in 2019, there were 12 unarmed black people shot by police.

01:04:24.000 In 2020, there were 18.

01:04:25.000 That's 30 in two years with over 600 million police interactions.

01:04:30.000 And guess what?

01:04:30.000 Most police interactions go well.

01:04:32.000 Of course, there's bad cops, there's bad everything.

01:04:35.000 But the majority of cops are just normal Americans that do their job, that are being unnecessarily tyrannized, terrorized, and quite honestly, put through this tyranny of trying to destroy the rule of law as we know it in itself.

01:04:50.000 And so, not really sure what to tell you about how, like, well, you put on a badge and you could choose that, therefore, blue lives don't matter.

01:04:56.000 Yeah, blue lives, of course, they matter.

01:04:58.000 All lives matter.

01:04:58.000 I say that, and people lose their mind.

01:05:00.000 All lives matter, you understand?

01:05:02.000 Every single life matters.

01:05:04.000 Every single life matters.

01:05:06.000 And so, I want to thank you for what you're doing.

01:05:09.000 God bless you.

01:05:10.000 We need more police officers.

01:05:11.000 Thank you.

01:05:15.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:05:16.000 My name is Cynthia, and I have high melanin content.

01:05:20.000 Who has high melanin content in here?

01:05:24.000 Okay, so my husband over there has very slight melanin content.

01:05:30.000 And what I ask him is: why is it that white people or some white people are complicit in their own destruction?

01:05:39.000 You guys do realize we're heading back to reverse Jim Crow. 0.85

01:05:43.000 Why are they creating a world where their children will suffer? 0.81

01:05:47.000 And what I've come to realize is that it's the white guilt.

01:05:50.000 It's all-consuming and it's a scourge upon this land.

01:05:55.000 So, what can we do to decrease this white guilt so that words like racism won't be so powerful?

01:06:04.000 So, I love it, by the way.

01:06:06.000 So, thank you.

01:06:08.000 That is so good.

01:06:11.000 So, first of all, so many it's so interesting you kind of fasten on that word guilt.

01:06:16.000 So, many people do not know how to process, explain, or deal with any sort of elevated social status or economic status.

01:06:26.000 So, they get shamed into saying, you live in a house, it's because of your skin color.

01:06:31.000 Not because you didn't commit crimes or graduated high school or got a job or got your life together.

01:06:36.000 Again, action and agency.

01:06:39.000 And this really fosters a sense of guilt.

01:06:41.000 And so, one way you could be helpful is by telling other white people, stop feeling so guilt.

01:06:46.000 Like, stop apologizing to me.

01:06:47.000 It's kind of creepy and weird, actually, that you keep on feeling like the need to apologize for something that you did not do, merely existing.

01:06:55.000 And one of the other kind of mind tricks the other side plays is they talk about this idea of systemic racism.

01:07:00.000 So let me ask you a question.

01:07:02.000 Living in America, is America systemically racist?

01:07:05.000 I don't believe so.

01:07:06.000 Yeah, I mean, so, and we are told, though, that it is.

01:07:10.000 The laws, the customs, the traditions, what happens and how it operates.

01:07:15.000 And you kind of have this population of upper-middle-class white people that get super uncomfortable whenever the conversation of race comes up.

01:07:24.000 And it's white guilt, and it's also another thing.

01:07:26.000 No one actually wants to be called the R-word.

01:07:29.000 And again, for someone who's wrongly and needlessly called that every single day, I just don't care, right?

01:07:33.000 So we're going to say things that are true, which actually goes to a nice piece of advice to all of you, which is please live your life in a way where you're the same person in public that you are in private.

01:07:43.000 Stop pretending you're somebody else to different friends.

01:07:47.000 You're going to be called all these different things.

01:07:49.000 Who cares?

01:07:50.000 Be bold, be courageous, know who you are.

01:07:53.000 Know why you believe what you believe.

01:07:55.000 But I could tell you that so many white people are going along with this, and it will destroy the country. 0.87

01:08:03.000 And what I've learned is that most black people, they don't like walk through life every single day wondering or thinking that white people are keeping them down.

01:08:12.000 I'm sure there's a poor population that does, but in general, it's like, how do I improve my life?

01:08:16.000 How do I educate my kids?

01:08:17.000 Like, you know, normal human being things.

01:08:20.000 And the biggest tool, everybody, is that we have to stop allowing whatever baseless accusation they throw at us to have any sort of merit and any sort of basis.

01:08:29.000 And so white guilt is definitely a big driver of this.

01:08:32.000 And it's also Americans' inability to deal with guilt in general.

01:08:35.000 As America has become less Christian, then all of a sudden people say, how do I deal with things I did wrong?

01:08:41.000 Here's the cool thing about Christianity.

01:08:43.000 We have a process for that.

01:08:46.000 We do.

01:08:47.000 You pray, you ask Lord Jesus for forgiveness.

01:08:50.000 You go to the person you wronged and you look them directly in the eye and you ask for forgiveness between interpersonal and then you are born new.

01:08:57.000 Your sins are forgiven and you are born new.

01:09:00.000 But in a hyper-secularized society, when you believe there is no God, there is no eternal life, there is no word of God, what do you do?

01:09:06.000 You go get a BLM sticker and you put it on your Prius.

01:09:13.000 Thank you.

01:09:15.000 Thank you, Tom.

01:09:20.000 Three to four years ago, I figured out that politics are really going to affect my future.

01:09:26.000 And that's when I started to, you know, really pay attention to what's going on.

01:09:32.000 And, you know, three to before that, I didn't really pay attention, to be honest with you.

01:09:37.000 And this whole entire thing with this new takeover that going off of your three previous ones, this is the fourth one.

01:09:48.000 And do you think this is going to blow over?

01:09:52.000 Because I don't want to have to plan my career around the radical left's agenda and socialism.

01:09:59.000 And what are your thoughts on that?

01:10:04.000 Yeah.

01:10:04.000 So I'm going to tell you the truth.

01:10:06.000 You might have to.

01:10:08.000 We are now, our generation is now entering a phase where we're not going to be able to escape this.

01:10:12.000 That we're going to have to fight it and confront it.

01:10:14.000 We're going to have to win.

01:10:16.000 I'm not going to paint a picture that is unrealistic or rooted in lies.

01:10:20.000 We're like, yeah, this is a storm that's going to blow over.

01:10:22.000 Not to make fun of the question because it's a real question.

01:10:25.000 Which is, you know what?

01:10:26.000 A lot of you, if you vocally say you're a conservative and you have a promised CRT, you might not get the job that you want to get.

01:10:34.000 I'm going to be very blunt and very honest.

01:10:36.000 Your professors will grade you differently.

01:10:39.000 What I'm saying is that you're going to have to pay a price.

01:10:42.000 Is that every single person here is going to be damaged a little bit.

01:10:45.000 But guess what?

01:10:46.000 You could be free.

01:10:48.000 Do you want to earn, you could earn $65,000 a year coming right out of University of Michigan?

01:10:56.000 But guess what?

01:10:57.000 You might have to pretend to be a political moderate.

01:10:59.000 You might have to take a knee during the lunchtime for BLM Incorporated.

01:11:04.000 You might have to become a different human being.

01:11:06.000 Is that worth it?

01:11:07.000 To sacrifice your autonomy, to sacrifice your consciousness?

01:11:11.000 Here's what I do know, though, is that courage is so lacking in our country that if you boldly go, you will be blessed and you'll be rewarded.

01:11:20.000 Now, I do believe that there is a growing consensus, regardless of political party.

01:11:27.000 You've noticed I haven't even made this political tonight.

01:11:29.000 This is all philosophical, which is what we do at Turning Point USA, educationally, because that's actually more important, which is a growing consensus that is really simple, which is fed up with this stuff.

01:11:40.000 But again, I'm going to go to the previous question.

01:11:42.000 The reason why most people aren't speaking out about it is because there is a cost.

01:11:47.000 You might get kicked out of the country club.

01:11:49.000 Your kid might not go to the school you want to go to.

01:11:52.000 You might lose contracts.

01:11:53.000 CNN might say something bad about you.

01:11:56.000 It's true.

01:11:57.000 It really, it terrorizes people.

01:11:59.000 I really don't care.

01:12:01.000 Be free is my answer to that.

01:12:03.000 Don't do something to try to provoke a response.

01:12:07.000 Do the right thing.

01:12:08.000 And if it provokes a response, it's on them and stand clearly against it.

01:12:12.000 So to answer your question, it's not what people want to hear.

01:12:15.000 This is not going away anytime soon.

01:12:17.000 This is going to be at least a decade-long struggle to remove this virus and this cancer that has now infected every major institution across the country.

01:12:27.000 You can wish it away, it won't go away.

01:12:28.000 You can hope it away, it won't go away.

01:12:30.000 You know how it goes away?

01:12:31.000 We win, and this ideology loses.

01:12:34.000 It's going to take a little bit of confrontation.

01:12:37.000 It's going to take a little bit of calling it out.

01:12:39.000 But I know this: that when BLM was confronted, they took a pinnacle, a pillar off of their website that said they want to destroy the Western prescribed nuclear family.

01:12:48.000 I know that when we started to push against CRT, American Express and 10 other corporations today announced that they're going to remove it from their ideology training.

01:12:57.000 Coca-Cola comes out and says that whiteness is an existential threat to America.

01:13:01.000 They're now coming out and saying they no longer teach that and they apologize.

01:13:04.000 Now, those are little things.

01:13:05.000 Don't forget that, though.

01:13:07.000 We're going to have to now push forward and say, no, no, no, we're not going to give you our business.

01:13:11.000 I'm not going to work for you anymore if you do this.

01:13:14.000 And we have to realize we have the power, but it might cost you something in the immediate, but that's the only way the country will actually be saved.

01:13:21.000 Thank you so much for your question.

01:13:22.000 Thank you, Charlie.

01:13:30.000 Hey, Charlie, my name is Zach.

01:13:32.000 I'm currently in a class called Global Civil Discourse, and we're reading a book by Terry Givens called Radical Empathy.

01:13:41.000 And she wrote this book during the height of COVID and the BLM riots.

01:13:46.000 Today's political left continually calls for empathy to be the primary focus of policy decisions.

01:13:53.000 How do I help my classmates recognize the wrong in this idea of empathy?

01:13:57.000 So, you guys ready for a thought, Crime?

01:14:01.000 No.

01:14:02.000 Sorry.

01:14:04.000 Empathetic is not a biblical idea.

01:14:05.000 It's nowhere in the Bible.

01:14:07.000 It's a created English word that is misinterpreted from compassion, mercy, and grace that came in the 1920s.

01:14:13.000 Now, empathy is trying to put yourself in somebody else's shoes.

01:14:17.000 That's the whole idea of empathy.

01:14:20.000 And I think we have morally misinterpreted the idea of empathy versus trying to have truth and trying to put grace and trying to understand right from wrong.

01:14:35.000 I think that the overemphasis on empathy comes with a deterioration of looking into one's own conduct and choices.

01:14:45.000 Now, this is not a popular argument.

01:14:46.000 You're not going to win this argument amongst your friends, but it still should be said, which is this, which is, should everyone be given empathy?

01:14:53.000 It's a good question, right?

01:14:54.000 So, should 5% of the population that's in prison for murder or for arson or theft be given empathy?

01:15:01.000 They'll say yes.

01:15:01.000 So, yeah, I'm not going to waste my time for that.

01:15:03.000 I'm not going to waste my time as somebody that goes and takes the life of another person.

01:15:07.000 Instead, I want to talk about how I can build myself up to be a better person, to be a good-souled man.

01:15:12.000 And so, you see a lot of sermons in churches where they say we must put empathy as the top ideal.

01:15:18.000 Now, you can have sympathy.

01:15:20.000 That's okay.

01:15:21.000 Sympathy is not empathy.

01:15:22.000 Empathy is literally you want to put yourself into those shoes, live and embody those complete and total circumstances.

01:15:29.000 I don't think that's right.

01:15:30.000 I don't.

01:15:31.000 Instead, I think a better way to say it is, what is good?

01:15:35.000 What is true?

01:15:36.000 I want to be those things.

01:15:38.000 I want to be the best version of myself.

01:15:40.000 I want to all of a sudden lead by example.

01:15:42.000 So, what's good and true in today's time?

01:15:44.000 Some things that are tough.

01:15:45.000 Because instead of reading this ridiculous book that you're telling me, why don't we say this?

01:15:49.000 Why don't we tell young people to stop drinking and doing drugs the way they're doing it currently? 0.98

01:15:55.000 Why don't we tell young people to get married before they have sexual relationships? 1.00

01:16:00.000 That's a thought crime.

01:16:01.000 Can't say that.

01:16:02.000 So you must have empathy.

01:16:03.000 You know what?

01:16:04.000 Be a better person.

01:16:05.000 It's tough.

01:16:06.000 By the way, we all have our shortcomings.

01:16:07.000 Trust me, myself included.

01:16:10.000 But instead of trying to all of a sudden bring ourselves in different shoes, let's look at the ideal.

01:16:15.000 Let's shoot for the teleological aim, which literally means the purposeful aim of human existence.

01:16:20.000 Happy to dive into why I think the overemphasis on empathy is wrong, but let me finish with this.

01:16:25.000 Every single ounce that we try to say to ourselves, we need to compare ourselves to someone that might be disadvantaged, is a piece of energy and an ounce of activity that is not used on worrying about whether or not I am a good sold and properly sold individual.

01:16:40.000 The ancients spent time not on comparing yourself to another, but instead on trying to elevate yourself through a transcendent order: mercy, justice, courage, contemplation, friendship, magnanimity.

01:16:53.000 Do you even hear these words anymore?

01:16:55.000 Of course not.

01:16:56.000 The words we hear are: no, no, you need to give up what you have to somebody else because they have less than you.

01:17:02.000 I'm more focused on developing good individuals with character that are willing to go out into the world.

01:17:07.000 Happy to expand on that further, but thank you.

01:17:09.000 Thank you, Charlie.

01:17:13.000 Hey, Charlie.

01:17:15.000 I have a friend who recently fell down that leftist rabbit hole, like getting involved with likes of AOC, Bernie Sanders, Hassan Piker.

01:17:24.000 So I was wondering.

01:17:26.000 I know Hassan.

01:17:26.000 Yeah.

01:17:27.000 Yeah.

01:17:28.000 I met him once or twice.

01:17:30.000 My question to you is: what do you think the best tool is to stop young people from falling down those similar rabbit holes?

01:17:36.000 So I'm just curious for my own.

01:17:38.000 What do you think prompted that in your friend?

01:17:42.000 I don't know.

01:17:43.000 Probably kind of what you were talking about earlier with the whole Occupy Wall Street in Brazil and kind of the viewing the elite as this big force that's kind of pushing down on us.

01:17:58.000 Yeah, I mean, there's some truth in that, but I guess the question, we could dive into this.

01:18:02.000 I'm just saying, so I guess they took the blue pill, not the red pill.

01:18:06.000 So here's kind of just the truth of it, right?

01:18:09.000 Which is everything I believe and everything we as conservatives believe, a defense of the natural law, understanding eternal wisdom, trying to have a preference on consent to the government, separation of powers, independent judiciary, constitutional republic, our view is the harder view to persuade people.

01:18:27.000 It's harder because embedded in everything I'm telling you is kind of this unspoken truth that you got to get your life together.

01:18:33.000 You got to make better choices.

01:18:36.000 That don't rely on the state for everything.

01:18:38.000 Now, with that being said, do I think that there's actually a very valid critique about a ruling class of elites that are trying to crush your life?

01:18:44.000 Yeah, I actually can kind of sympathize with that.

01:18:46.000 So, I think the solution is to nationalize everything and turn this into like the mobilization of grievance politics?

01:18:51.000 Of course not.

01:18:52.000 So, I think there's a balance that could be struck there.

01:18:56.000 I'm not going to give you a great kind of like way to persuade it, but I will say this: focus on the conversations, not on the conversions.

01:19:03.000 Don't give up with your friends.

01:19:04.000 Ask questions.

01:19:06.000 Ask really good.

01:19:06.000 So, tell me, do you trust the government?

01:19:09.000 No, I think it's evil.

01:19:10.000 Then, why do you want to make the government bigger exactly?

01:19:13.000 I don't.

01:19:14.000 Well, everyone you support wants to make the government bigger, so let's unpack that one together.

01:19:18.000 I always get a kick out of some people on the left: they say the military is evil and they kill civilians.

01:19:24.000 I also want a domestic military to be like, really, that's a really interesting judgment, like to go after people's taxes.

01:19:29.000 Like, either the government can't be trusted or it can be trusted.

01:19:32.000 And so, but I will say this: that a lot of young people succumb to the lies of the left because they are not steeped, in my personal opinion, in wisdom.

01:19:42.000 They're filled with practical knowledge and not in wisdom, which is the knowledge of things that do not change.

01:19:48.000 Human beings, regardless of how much we have convinced ourselves, have not changed in our nature since the Declaration or since the writing of the Bible.

01:19:57.000 This is really what divides the right and the left in the country.

01:19:59.000 Not everyone here might agree at this, but it's true, which is that human nature is unchanging.

01:20:05.000 The founding fathers dealt with the same problems we're dealing with, even though they didn't have TikTok, Twitter, or transcontinental airlines.

01:20:12.000 Guess what those problems were?

01:20:13.000 That human beings lie, they steal, they cheat, were nasty, brutish, and short to one another.

01:20:19.000 They understood that marriage is a good thing, that hasn't changed.

01:20:22.000 Life is preservative, worthy of protection and preservation and protection.

01:20:27.000 Private property must be protected.

01:20:29.000 And so, that's really the debate I would get into: whether or not you believe human beings are a blank slate that are malleable that could be made around the forces around them, or there's a nature to human beings.

01:20:39.000 And I believe that obviously, as a Christian, there is a nature.

01:20:41.000 We're broken, we're fallen.

01:20:43.000 And we better build a government accordingly.

01:20:45.000 That if you give too much power to broken and fallen people, really bad things start to happen in the corporate domain or the governmental domain.

01:20:52.000 Thank you.

01:20:56.000 This will be the final question, right?

01:20:58.000 Is that right?

01:20:58.000 Am I reading that?

01:20:59.000 Okay, yeah, cool.

01:21:00.000 Hi, my name is Anthony.

01:21:02.000 World tied.

01:21:02.000 Is that Alabama?

01:21:03.000 I see that.

01:21:05.000 And I go to a small school outside of Flint, and a lot of people there are very woke.

01:21:14.000 And so, like, I've had a few times in class where, like, we were talking about racism and how I have innate rights over other people because I'm white.

01:21:25.000 And I say something, and then I get called a racist and get in trouble for it.

01:21:30.000 And, like, my teacher was talking about how that, oh, white people will always have the opportunity in society that black people never will.

01:21:40.000 And I brought up an example of my dad, and he went to an engineering school and was top in his class and didn't get a job he wanted over the person that was 26 in his class just because they were black and they needed to fill a hiring quota.

01:21:52.000 And I was called a racist and got detention for it.

01:21:54.000 And I just wanted to know what you can do to voice your opinion but not get in trouble for it in schools.

01:22:03.000 Are you in high school?

01:22:04.000 Yeah.

01:22:05.000 First of all, I want to thank you for being here tonight, and it's wrong the way that you approve it.

01:22:15.000 And the work we do at Turning Point USA is to empower and to support students like you.

01:22:22.000 And I hope every parent that's watching online or here in this room understand and realize what he just said.

01:22:27.000 This is a profoundly different country than it was 10 years ago.

01:22:31.000 That you share the story of your father who worked hard and played by the rules and you get punished or penalized or a detention for that.

01:22:38.000 I'm going to ask, I'm going to answer a specific question because I'm not a politician, so I actually answer questions, which is, how can I speak out without getting punished for it, right?

01:22:48.000 I'm afraid you can't.

01:22:51.000 And so you're going to have to make a decision.

01:22:53.000 And the decision is: do I want to be a strong and tough person that's going to pay a price at a young age that will be good for me as I grow and develop?

01:23:02.000 Or do I want to avoid that conflict, get momentary benefit, but not be prepared for what might come next in your life?

01:23:11.000 Now, this chapter in your life is going to be difficult.

01:23:14.000 It already is.

01:23:15.000 People are probably already calling you racist, but you're going to find out a lot about who you are.

01:23:19.000 It'll strengthen your resolve.

01:23:21.000 You will become more resolute in your beliefs.

01:23:24.000 Also, you're going to have other people that support you.

01:23:26.000 People here tonight are going to come up to you and say, I'll be praying for you.

01:23:29.000 I'll support you.

01:23:30.000 Because by the time you're 21 or 22, you're going to be running relay laps around every single person that calls you a racist, which is intellectually dishonest and lazy, where you actually profoundly thought through your beliefs.

01:23:42.000 Where you understand why you believe what you believe?

01:23:45.000 There's no easy answer, is what I'm trying to tell you.

01:23:47.000 I'm not going to tell you, like, you know, you can tell everyone what you believe while you believe, you're getting straight A's.

01:23:51.000 That's not going to happen.

01:23:52.000 It's not.

01:23:52.000 That country's dead.

01:23:53.000 I wish it was still alive.

01:23:54.000 It's over.

01:23:55.000 We want it back.

01:23:56.000 Instead, I'm going to tell you this.

01:23:57.000 You can become a better, stronger, and complete human being by standing for truth, even as a high schooler.

01:24:06.000 And we at Turning Point USA are here to support you.

01:24:08.000 So you're not alone.

01:24:10.000 So whatever punishment they give you is just nothing compared to the friendships, compared to the relationships, and the support network that we are here to support you.

01:24:19.000 Because people say, Charlie, how are we going to support the country?

01:24:22.000 What's your name again?

01:24:23.000 Anthony.

01:24:24.000 Anthony.

01:24:25.000 We support the country when a million people named Anthony say, fine, give me a detention.

01:24:29.000 I'm not going to stop saying it.

01:24:31.000 Fine, kick me out of school.

01:24:32.000 I'm not going to stop saying it.

01:24:35.000 I don't care.

01:24:39.000 Penalize me. 0.99

01:24:40.000 Punish me. 1.00

01:24:41.000 Mock me. 0.93

01:24:42.000 Ridicule me.

01:24:43.000 I know who I am. 0.73

01:24:45.000 I know what I believe.

01:24:46.000 You could try to take that from me, but I will never stop contesting for truth.

01:24:50.000 And then a more kind of applicable, just kind of applicable thing in high school.

01:24:54.000 I don't say this for college kids, but I would appeal through your parents to try to have some sort of review of how they're issuing justice.

01:25:01.000 Remember, the idea of justice is now being abused because that is an abuse of justice against you.

01:25:06.000 That a high school kid has to go through a detention sort of quasi-Soviet show trial because you dare to question legitimate racism.

01:25:16.000 But I'll close with this.

01:25:17.000 I'll say again, we support you and we have your back.

01:25:20.000 And a couple years from now, you're going to say, man, that was tough.

01:25:23.000 That was a winter phase of my life.

01:25:24.000 Remember, the Bible says there is a season for everything.

01:25:28.000 And some of you are about to enter a winter phase in your corporate career, in your college career.

01:25:33.000 But after winter comes spring and you will be strong because of what happens through it.

01:25:36.000 We are not in the hopium business at Turning Point USA.

01:25:39.000 You know what that means?

01:25:40.000 Hope and opium feels good, but it's not really good for you and it's not true.

01:25:44.000 We are in the truth-telling business here.

01:25:46.000 That every single one of us, if we want our country back, we're going to have to pay a price.

01:25:50.000 You're going to be called names.

01:25:51.000 You're going to be kicked in a little bit, but you'll be stronger and tougher because of it.

01:25:54.000 So God bless you, Anthony.

01:25:55.000 I'm so glad you're here tonight.

01:25:56.000 Thank you.

01:26:01.000 So I just want to reiterate my thanks to the incredible Turning Point USA activists that helped put on this event.

01:26:07.000 And I just want to say this: that this sort of regime, this educational, this educational diversity regime is one that we are going to push back against in every single way.

01:26:19.000 Know what you believe and why you believe it.

01:26:20.000 I want to thank those of you.

01:26:22.000 I know there's some people here tonight that listen to our podcast and our radio show.

01:26:26.000 Thank you for that.

01:26:27.000 It really means a lot to us.

01:26:29.000 We are doing two podcasts a day.

01:26:30.000 I say this at every single event.

01:26:32.000 If you guys are not yet subscribed on your phones to our podcast, it really personally blesses us.

01:26:37.000 I know it's a perfunctory procedural thing, but please consider taking out your phone and doing that.

01:26:42.000 And in closing, also get involved with Turning Point USA if you are not.

01:26:45.000 We have America Fest, the largest ever celebration of America coming December 18, 19, 2021 in Phoenix, Arizona.

01:26:52.000 10,000 plus people are going to be there.

01:26:54.000 And wait till you see the speakers and the musical artists that are going to be there.

01:26:59.000 That's all I'm going to say.

01:27:00.000 I'm not going to say anymore.

01:27:01.000 I'm not allowed to say anymore.

01:27:03.000 Everybody, we outnumber them.

01:27:07.000 They might control more.

01:27:11.000 They might be louder.

01:27:13.000 They might intimidate you.

01:27:15.000 They might mock you and ridicule you.

01:27:17.000 But if we hold the line, if we continue to proclaim truth against what they push towards us with courage, because courage is the ultimate virtue, because without courage, there are no other virtues.

01:27:29.000 People say all the time, Charlie, what do you at Turning Point USA try to do?

01:27:32.000 I try to spread courage like a wildfire through every single one of our students, like Anthony, like our Turning Point USA students, University of Michigan, to stand what they believe.

01:27:40.000 Because if not, we're living in an open-air Soviet country the moment we stop telling people what we believe and why we believe it. 0.84

01:27:45.000 But here's the amazing thing about truth: truth has a way of handling itself once you let it free.

01:27:51.000 You say something that is true, it'll defend itself.

01:27:53.000 You say something that is rational and reasonable against the lies, against the deception and the treachery.

01:27:58.000 Then all of a sudden, things start to sort themselves out.

01:28:01.000 But it's only going to happen when every single one of us proclaim the truth and we stand courageously for it, which is exactly why we have this event tonight.

01:28:08.000 God bless you guys.

01:28:09.000 Thank you so much for having us.

01:28:13.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - October 10, 2021

Exposing Critical Racism Tour—LIVE from the University of Michigan

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